Speaker 1: Randy Edelman. That was the other. It was Trevor Jones
Speaker 1: and Randy Edelman were the main composers of The Last
Speaker 1: the Mohicans. Good Old Google. See. Oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: such a ludd eyed I'm literally still going to the
Speaker 1: library in my head when I need to know something
Speaker 1: instead of just googling. Yeah, but that's I don't think
Speaker 1: it is. I think it's like total Granny Boomer time.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's both. I just don't think it's filed under
Speaker 1: horse radish if I wonder if any of your listeners
Speaker 1: thought you just ran to the library just now. I'll
Speaker 1: be one minute, Hang on, where's my library card? We
Speaker 1: edited out I was actually sitting here for forty five minutes,
Speaker 1: justin take a nap. I'll be right back. Hello, I'm
Speaker 1: Mini driver and welcome to many Questions. I've always loved
Speaker 1: priest questionnaire. It was originally an eighteenth century parlor game
Speaker 1: meant to reveal an individual's true nature. But with so
Speaker 1: many questions, there wasn't really an opportunity to expand on anything.
Speaker 1: So I took the format of Proof's questionnaire and adapted
Speaker 1: what I think are seven of the most important questions
Speaker 1: you could ever ask someone they are when and where
Speaker 1: were you happiest? What is the quality you like least
Speaker 1: about yourself? What relationship, real or fictionalized, defines love for you?
Speaker 1: What question would you most like answered, What person, place,
Speaker 1: or experience has shaped you the most? What would be
Speaker 1: your last meal? And can you tell me something in
Speaker 1: your life that has grown out of a personal disaster.
Speaker 1: The more people we ask, the more we begin to
Speaker 1: see what makes us similar and what makes us individual.
Speaker 1: I've gathered a group of really remarkable people who I
Speaker 1: am honored and humbled to have had a chance to
Speaker 1: engage with. My guest today is the actor and podcaster
Speaker 1: Justin Long. We've known each other oh long time, but
Speaker 1: the reality that we have remained utter nerds about acting
Speaker 1: and movies has not really changed in all that time.
Speaker 1: Justin asks brilliant questions because I think he is a
Speaker 1: deeply curious human being and has the kind of intellectual
Speaker 1: acuity that's put to great use as an actor, but
Speaker 1: it's probably wasted on it. Also, I went on his
Speaker 1: podcast Life Is Short with Justin Long and we talked
Speaker 1: for a really long time and it was incredibly entertaining,
Speaker 1: but it also made me think about a lot of
Speaker 1: things for a very long time afterwards. The episode is
Speaker 1: out on July, and then when he came on my podcast,
Speaker 1: this podcast, he was equally as generous and considered and hilarious. Okay, Lorry,
Speaker 1: I'm going to start asking you questions, so you better
Speaker 1: just get ready. I'm ready. I haven't looked at them.
Speaker 1: That could be a disclaimer in case I'm stumbling to No,
Speaker 1: don't worry about that. She stumbled through it. It's going
Speaker 1: to be on my headstand. It's a good question. Okay. Well,
Speaker 1: so now I have to ask you that what would
Speaker 1: be written on your team stone Well, well, you know,
Speaker 1: actually it comes up a lot on the podcast I
Speaker 1: do um and it's always life is short with justin
Speaker 1: long thank you. Yes, I should have done that. That's
Speaker 1: a professional podcaster. I should have It's only been two years.
Speaker 1: You're not to plug my own ship. It would come
Speaker 1: up at the end because I would say, what type
Speaker 1: of legacy do you want to leave behind? What do
Speaker 1: you hope people remember? But it would come on the
Speaker 1: heels of this, like lightning round their uniform questions, and
Speaker 1: it always through the guests, and not necessarily in a
Speaker 1: good way. When you go through the you know, what's
Speaker 1: your favorite movie, and you your favorite fruits and all
Speaker 1: this stuff, and then it would get to this kind
Speaker 1: of nebulous question about being remembered, and I love it.
Speaker 1: It's like, what's your favorite snack? Watch, favorite movie? And
Speaker 1: now I want you to contemplate. Yeah, your existence. I
Speaker 1: know it was always like, oh, people were pretty game
Speaker 1: about it, but it was like I could see it throwing,
Speaker 1: really throwing them. I mean, obviously I saw written on
Speaker 1: a tombstone that I then went and found where it
Speaker 1: came from because it was so beautiful and I knew
Speaker 1: it must have been part of something else. And it's
Speaker 1: the last lines of this poem to be held by
Speaker 1: a woman called Linda Hogan. And on the tombstone it said,
Speaker 1: waiting for the healing after the storm which has been
Speaker 1: our life. Wow, Oh my god, how much that says
Speaker 1: and how much is left to the imagination about that life. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's the most beautiful poem stand laurels is and I'm
Speaker 1: probably gonna bastardize it, but it says something like he
Speaker 1: brought joy to the world that he loved so much. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's so sweet. There's one in Key West. It just
Speaker 1: says I told you I was sick. And I think
Speaker 1: about that one often because it leaves behind. I mean,
Speaker 1: it is the highest degree of permanence I can imagine,
Speaker 1: and that for centuries, people who see that will just
Speaker 1: assume that whoever's under that rock was cheeky and had
Speaker 1: a good sense of humor. You know. I like that.
Speaker 1: Where and when were you happiest? You know what? Honestly,
Speaker 1: I had a moment recently, about a month ago in Arkansas.
Speaker 1: I was taking a drive with a friend and we
Speaker 1: were kind of following signs. We kept finding all these
Speaker 1: really interesting or funny, bizarre signs, literal signs on the
Speaker 1: side of the road, above a storefront graffitied somewhere. I
Speaker 1: just felt very connected to this person, and I felt
Speaker 1: very free and safe. And we had been laughing so much,
Speaker 1: and it was our day off and we were shooting
Speaker 1: this thing, and it it was we had a day off,
Speaker 1: and the sky it was just beautiful, and I was
Speaker 1: thinking about my grandma, who passed away recently a lot,
Speaker 1: and she had given me a sign that she was
Speaker 1: okay and had passed, And so I think that it
Speaker 1: was that day. It was May fourth, that might not
Speaker 1: be interesting, but it was. It was profound to me. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: of course it is. I mean we talked a little
Speaker 1: bit about this when I did your podcast. But the
Speaker 1: looking for signs, we seek out those people who have
Speaker 1: gone because oh, sweet little human brains so desperately need
Speaker 1: to physicalize them because we're still here in this reality.
Speaker 1: But I'm a big believer in signs. I thought at
Speaker 1: first you might mean you were following road signs, but
Speaker 1: then the signs actually turned into signs. No, not not.
Speaker 1: In fact, we were lost. We had gotten lost, and
Speaker 1: we turned off our GPS, and uh, there's a real
Speaker 1: purity to not knowing. Sometimes it made us more connected,
Speaker 1: and it made us more aware and present to the surroundings,
Speaker 1: which included, as it turns out, these like really not
Speaker 1: always that bizarre signs. Like for example, we found one
Speaker 1: for like piglets for sale on the side of the road,
Speaker 1: and we looked at each other and like piglets in
Speaker 1: this big farm, sprawling farmhouse, and we said, should we
Speaker 1: are we should we go? Should we go? And we're like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we just kept like going and we met this the
Speaker 1: most beautiful pig pigs. Well, we did meet the pigs,
Speaker 1: several pigs. I like that you just followed the things
Speaker 1: that you saw. Yes, I always want signs on the freeway.
Speaker 1: Whenever it's like, you know, put your seatbelt on. I'm
Speaker 1: always hoping that it's secret you going to say, you know,
Speaker 1: sell everything and buy a boat. Oh that's funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, very specific to you, exactly driver, any person
Speaker 1: in the fucking one. Yes, well, yours could be it
Speaker 1: could be like driver, beware, you know that's true. What
Speaker 1: is the quality you least like about yourself? There are
Speaker 1: several I'm trying to pick just one. I am, well,
Speaker 1: I'm quite scattered. I'm quite um. I guess the easy
Speaker 1: clinical way out would be to say I'm a d D.
Speaker 1: Maybe listeners can tell already that I'm it's hard for
Speaker 1: me to focus in work. That can be a problem, obviously,
Speaker 1: although weirdly when i'm when I have it. That's this
Speaker 1: is why I'd love to mow the lawn or I
Speaker 1: love tasks like that. I of like manual labor tap
Speaker 1: because there's a clarity to it. There's a clear agenda,
Speaker 1: you know. I find comfort in that knowing that, Okay,
Speaker 1: this amount of grass needs to be cut and this
Speaker 1: is how you cut it, and there's something very satisfying
Speaker 1: about that. I couldn't agree more. I think it makes
Speaker 1: you feel safe as well, because it's somehow there are
Speaker 1: boundaries created around time, so you know that for this period,
Speaker 1: you know exactly what you're doing. It's white like being
Speaker 1: an actor is just such a monstrous free fall when
Speaker 1: you don't know where the next job is coming from.
Speaker 1: It unless you're one of you know, sort of a
Speaker 1: handful of actor. Maybe you're in that handful. I'm certainly not. No, no,
Speaker 1: I know exactly, but I totally understand why you knowing
Speaker 1: I am going to mow the lawn now. It's both
Speaker 1: satisfying and safe feeling. In fact, I heard Julie Roberts
Speaker 1: say once on a radio show or something. She said,
Speaker 1: the best time for an actor is the time between
Speaker 1: when you know you've got a job and the time
Speaker 1: that job starts. Oh that's that's not agree more. Where
Speaker 1: you're just you're following, not worried, and you're excited. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: there's a security. Your feet are planted. It's definitive. There's
Speaker 1: something definitive totally. What relationship, real or fictionalized, defines love
Speaker 1: for you. First of all. At the heart of every
Speaker 1: great relationship, I think is just a real sense of enjoyment.
Speaker 1: There's you really fucking just like being around somebody, and
Speaker 1: there's a mutual curiosity about one another, you know. I
Speaker 1: think that's That's something that I only recently came to appreciate,
Speaker 1: how how much you want to know things about about
Speaker 1: a person. It's usually in movies, sadly, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know what that says about the relationships I've had,
Speaker 1: but you know, I have like wonderful others and parents,
Speaker 1: but it's it's in the movies where this is I
Speaker 1: think one of the reasons I love movies, where you know,
Speaker 1: you get to you get to witness. This is going
Speaker 1: to sound very pretentious, but I think of like the
Speaker 1: platonic forms, you know, like there's a form of relationship
Speaker 1: that is perfect, and we're all aspiring to that form.
Speaker 1: Every relationship aspires to that and nothing and only in
Speaker 1: movies can it really be perfect, because it ends it's
Speaker 1: so true. I mean, the aspiration to me perfect here
Speaker 1: is mired by compromise. But in the in the films,
Speaker 1: I was too jealous of Madeline Stowe to really embrace
Speaker 1: her in the Last the Mohicans. But like for me,
Speaker 1: the way that dandey Lewis talks to her under the Waterfall,
Speaker 1: I will find you no matter what happens. So long
Speaker 1: I just I mean, I'm sure she's a very nice person.
Speaker 1: But oh my god, that should have been me. I
Speaker 1: think that about Daniel day Lewis should have been me.
Speaker 1: That was my part. It should have been under the waterfall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, people be so mad. God that might
Speaker 1: be when it comes to like romance and relationship. That
Speaker 1: might be the perfect scene. There's there's a desperation, yes,
Speaker 1: to end up in the woods with the person who
Speaker 1: is the last of his kind. You're joking and make
Speaker 1: little babies all day and like hunt sign me up.
Speaker 1: The stakes couldn't be higher, stakes can be not not
Speaker 1: to compare myself to that scene or but I said
Speaker 1: that recently to someone like I need you to and
Speaker 1: it was mutual. I hope that. But that the idea
Speaker 1: that like, don't just be I mean we say it
Speaker 1: all the time to loved ones, be safe, but it's
Speaker 1: that it's that not as heightened. But he says, the
Speaker 1: word occurred, no matter what, stay alive, no matter what
Speaker 1: occurred alive no matter what, you will fold you. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I just don't die, Like stay here, you
Speaker 1: know that's really beautiful. I know, be here, don't go
Speaker 1: in your life. Can you tell me about something that
Speaker 1: grew out of a personal disaster. Yes, I had a
Speaker 1: had an experience where I was some kid held against
Speaker 1: my will and I had smoked what I thought was weird.
Speaker 1: It turned out to be something else, something really debilitating
Speaker 1: and scary. It was scary, and I jumped out of
Speaker 1: a car to get away, and I was like, run over.
Speaker 1: You jumped out of the car to get away. Like,
Speaker 1: first of all, good job being super high being able
Speaker 1: to jump out of the car. But then did you
Speaker 1: also that you managed to unlock the door and get out,
Speaker 1: and then you got hit by another car when you
Speaker 1: jumped out? No, no, no, because what happens when you
Speaker 1: chumped out of a car. It was it was It
Speaker 1: wasn't going, it wasn't speeding down. It was going like
Speaker 1: an hour around streets. It was three in the morning,
Speaker 1: so there weren't really cars. But I saw head it's
Speaker 1: coming and I I opened the door. Uh, and I
Speaker 1: and when you jump out of a car, for those
Speaker 1: of a few of you who haven't done it. You
Speaker 1: don't land on your feet, you know, unless you're like
Speaker 1: Spider Man. I've rolled and one of the wheels rolled
Speaker 1: over my leg, and so I really obviously sucked up
Speaker 1: my leg, but but I was able to move, I
Speaker 1: was able to get up on it. I did nothing broken,
Speaker 1: which is miraculous. The doctor the next day was like, well,
Speaker 1: it's probably because you bought. You were so messed up.
Speaker 1: You know, your body is not tight um or whatever
Speaker 1: this is. So this experience happened, very frightening thing. But
Speaker 1: out of that I thought about it often, and obviously
Speaker 1: it affected me, and here I am, fourteen years later
Speaker 1: later talking about it. But it helped me appreciate boundaries
Speaker 1: and the way I moved through the world. I was
Speaker 1: very trusting of people, which is not to say I'm
Speaker 1: jaded and cynical now, but I think it just it
Speaker 1: gave me an appreciation for boundaries and protecting my own
Speaker 1: time and space. And I had a tremendous amount of guilt.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of guilt about things. I think
Speaker 1: I waste a lot of time. Why do you feel
Speaker 1: guilty that I did it? Out of guilt? It was
Speaker 1: the guys. This is part of the long story. But
Speaker 1: but the guys that wanted me to smoke, they had
Speaker 1: approached me at a bar. I had been there at
Speaker 1: the bar a couple of nights earlier with a friend
Speaker 1: and I have to tell his name, this name dropping,
Speaker 1: but I have to say it was. It was Steve Boushemy.
Speaker 1: And only because Steve gets so much attention, you know,
Speaker 1: from people, that they had to kind of put us
Speaker 1: in a back room because he's so recognizable. And so
Speaker 1: we had we were like kind of in this room
Speaker 1: off to the side, and it was like it was
Speaker 1: just like a pubby type place, Irish pub. And a
Speaker 1: couple of days later, I was back at the bar
Speaker 1: and these two guys locals approached me and said, the
Speaker 1: funk man, you said you wanted weed. And when we
Speaker 1: came back to get it, like you were in some
Speaker 1: some like v I p areas somewhere we couldn't and
Speaker 1: we went all the way to get and I said,
Speaker 1: you know, and oh, I'm so sorry, and I bought
Speaker 1: them shots, you know, like to make up for it.
Speaker 1: And throughout the night they come over to me and
Speaker 1: the friends I was with and they would oh, this
Speaker 1: this Hollywood guy. He's a Hollywood guy and they and
Speaker 1: my thing at that point was like I just want
Speaker 1: everything to be normal. I just want And that led
Speaker 1: to them being like, well, you're not going to smoke
Speaker 1: with us? Oh my good god. Oh yeah yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: have some Oh yeah, yeah, I just love You're just
Speaker 1: so sweet, like you know, oh, you're not going to
Speaker 1: smoke with us? Oh no, sure, I don't want to
Speaker 1: offend you said, you know you're smoking. They're like weird
Speaker 1: Catchaman like Crystal with it was PCPs, I think. But
Speaker 1: they took me to their apartment. We were all going
Speaker 1: to go to a Cassino. I mean, I got wrapped
Speaker 1: up in these guys. And look, I'm not blaming. It's
Speaker 1: not on them. You know, I have agency and so
Speaker 1: much of what compelled me and that in that night,
Speaker 1: that kind of like scary night was was guilt wanting
Speaker 1: to please and it's ego. I mean, it really is
Speaker 1: ego wanting to be liked. I know, it wanted to
Speaker 1: be like yeah, I think so many women that I
Speaker 1: know would understand that the conversations that we've had about
Speaker 1: the things that you do just because you don't want
Speaker 1: people to not like you. We've been called I oh,
Speaker 1: she's such a bit. So much when you don't do
Speaker 1: the thing that people want you to do, that it
Speaker 1: becomes so tiresome and so toxic that you just end
Speaker 1: up doing the thing that you don't want to do
Speaker 1: just to feel like you're not being bad. It's it's awful.
Speaker 1: It's a fragile part of being human though, it really is.
Speaker 1: I know it's something I want to work on. I
Speaker 1: have a friend who's so good at it, is so
Speaker 1: honest and and knows how to and is not as
Speaker 1: concerned with what people think. Love. I'm so glad you
Speaker 1: didn't end up as somebody's coat. You know, I'd be
Speaker 1: a terrible coat. I mean I'm glad for them too.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't make a good coat. Okay, So what question
Speaker 1: would you most like answered? What? Yeah? I mean like
Speaker 1: for it's what happens afterwards. I think that's the easy
Speaker 1: one for me. What happens to us? What do you
Speaker 1: think happens? I change is all the time, depending on what,
Speaker 1: depending on people I've lost and things that I've experienced,
Speaker 1: any sort of mystical moments I've had, I'll go from
Speaker 1: full doubt to skeptical to to I believe in something,
Speaker 1: to something very concrete, you know. I but I don't
Speaker 1: know because I grew up Catholic, and the one comforting
Speaker 1: thing about that was, you know, there was a structure
Speaker 1: to it in terms of the afterlife. There was a
Speaker 1: heaven and a hell. And I remember leaving in a
Speaker 1: purgatory that to me was the clear structure. It was
Speaker 1: like this three levels, you know, and St. Peter was
Speaker 1: at the gates. I mean, I believed all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And you know, over the years and as you've discovered
Speaker 1: things that changes. There's certain things that like make me
Speaker 1: feel it's just so different about existence and the existence
Speaker 1: of aliens, for example. I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 1: Christians and religious people will reconcile that. How does extreme
Speaker 1: extreme religion make room for aliens doing what we come from,
Speaker 1: where you come from is where we're going, pre birth
Speaker 1: and post life. I am probably the least qualified, but
Speaker 1: I I you're qualified because you're alive, right, But that's
Speaker 1: the thing about being alive. And I love watching the
Speaker 1: nature programs. I love watching anything about animals, and I
Speaker 1: think there's something there's such a harshness, there's such a
Speaker 1: harsh reality when you watch those things I always think of.
Speaker 1: There's that Tennis and nature is read and tooth and claw.
Speaker 1: And I was watching this show about the gelopagus and
Speaker 1: they were talking about one of those kind of sea
Speaker 1: coastal birds. It was the most savage thing I think
Speaker 1: i'd ever seen. Where were the mother at lays two
Speaker 1: eggs and when they hatch the lesser of the two,
Speaker 1: one of them gets pushed out. God, I'm sorry if
Speaker 1: this must be a real bummer, if anyone's still listening, Uh,
Speaker 1: this is a real bum But but it struck me.
Speaker 1: I mean it was like, That's why I say it's
Speaker 1: fluid the way I think about this, because like I
Speaker 1: can't reconcile there being a god, you know when when
Speaker 1: I watch things like that, that the harshness of that,
Speaker 1: and and that maybe that's just what distances. There's a
Speaker 1: weird beauty in it. In the death there is this
Speaker 1: Wordsworth quote is my favorite quote on nature. Nature never
Speaker 1: did betray the heart that loved her, And I don't know,
Speaker 1: getting pushed out of a nest like that shore feels
Speaker 1: like a bit of a betrayal to me. But we
Speaker 1: also remember we put a lot of this human emotion.
Speaker 1: We attach that to these things that happen in nature.
Speaker 1: Whereas I think I do believe in God, but I
Speaker 1: just don't think he she it. I think it's energetic,
Speaker 1: and it just set in motion this kind of experiment.
Speaker 1: And you don't interfere with experiments, you know, when I've
Speaker 1: been out in the field and wanted to interfere in
Speaker 1: situations with animals, like to save an animal but that
Speaker 1: you know is about to be an attack, and they're like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you have to let that happen. And you can't save
Speaker 1: the dying animal. You have to let it be part
Speaker 1: of the chain. My dad is a philosophy professor, medieval philosophy,
Speaker 1: and and a lot of that is really obviously outdated now.
Speaker 1: But I loved a quintas is you he leaved in.
Speaker 1: I think he caught it the teleological argument for the
Speaker 1: existence of God, which is the design of everything. The
Speaker 1: design of this world is so perfect that that it
Speaker 1: had to have been it had to have been created
Speaker 1: by something, It had to have had a hand of Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that's sometimes in nature. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: It's definitely where I feel most alive and most connected
Speaker 1: and most understanding of this journey that we don't know
Speaker 1: why it starts, we don't know why it ends, or
Speaker 1: like what if there's a point to it. But I
Speaker 1: do know that when I'm in nature, it makes complete
Speaker 1: sense of it, and it's like, oh, I'm I'm here
Speaker 1: and I'm part of this. Yes, yes, well you're talking
Speaker 1: about ego. I think that's is what fails us, is
Speaker 1: our idea that it's meant to be more important. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like when like human beings. I think I said
Speaker 1: this the other day to someone on this show, but
Speaker 1: it bears repeating. You know how when people talk about
Speaker 1: being reincarnated and like no one's ever like you know,
Speaker 1: a like no one's ever like a mute servant that
Speaker 1: they're the pharaoh. You know, I was had made into
Speaker 1: the queen. Why don't think so? Maybe you were like
Speaker 1: a lizard in Egypt? Like why you know, we know
Speaker 1: how arrogant we aggrandized the whole experience, because I think
Speaker 1: that's part of our trying to make sense of it.
Speaker 1: We have to give it as and graces. Otherwise what
Speaker 1: are we tether to? And the only thing I've ever
Speaker 1: felt tethered to, apart from the people that brought me
Speaker 1: into this world is nature. I understand my position in
Speaker 1: this world when I'm in the ocean. I understand it
Speaker 1: when I'm walking through fields or in a river. Right,
Speaker 1: it's the arrogance. Well, that's the fear. That's I think
Speaker 1: where a lot of my fear of death comes from,
Speaker 1: because I'm holding onto ego. It's the I can't leave.
Speaker 1: I mean, to its extreme, it is this, It is
Speaker 1: I'm the center of the world. The world exists because
Speaker 1: of me. I am. My existence is everything. We are
Speaker 1: the center of your world. You are you are the
Speaker 1: force of the center of your experience. But the goal
Speaker 1: is to be mindful to the point where you're you're
Speaker 1: I guess just separating ego. And I think that's maybe
Speaker 1: what happens if we're in nature, we're having those experiences
Speaker 1: in natures, is that we have an understanding that we're
Speaker 1: part of something much bigger. Yeah, I hope that that
Speaker 1: is dying is death. I hope that that is feeling,
Speaker 1: the feeling that one feels when one is part of
Speaker 1: something that is so clearly energetic and evolving and beautiful
Speaker 1: and joyful. Right, And I hope there's a comfort in
Speaker 1: that that's That's the other fear of death is that
Speaker 1: I'll fight it. Oh god, there's a there's a beautiful
Speaker 1: scene in Saving Private Reign where he Adam Goldberg is
Speaker 1: being stabbed the spoiler alert. I think about that a
Speaker 1: lot because the person doing it, the soldier. I think,
Speaker 1: to the German soldier is almost like rocking him. Is there.
Speaker 1: It's tender, Oh my god, and there's guilt and there's
Speaker 1: sadness from the person doing the killing. It's something so
Speaker 1: like profound about that scene. He's like lulling him to sleep,
Speaker 1: He's trying to comfort him as he's killing him. That's
Speaker 1: fucking that's deep, really deep. Yea, so deep. So but
Speaker 1: by the way it is, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: watching my mother die it wasn't frightening. It was like
Speaker 1: it really was like watching someone being born into something else.
Speaker 1: I keep thinking about it, and I do know for
Speaker 1: sure that that is not me trying to qualify her
Speaker 1: being gone. I do know that that was the deep,
Speaker 1: profound instinct that I think is connected to all the
Speaker 1: stuff that isn't human. It was a knowing, it was
Speaker 1: an absolute knowing that this was this was the ending
Speaker 1: of something in the beginning of something else, and it
Speaker 1: felt deeply that way, not consciously. It's really beautiful. Thanks Pet.
Speaker 1: So last question my friend, Okay, so what would be
Speaker 1: your last male? Oh? Boy, I like this one. This
Speaker 1: is this is fun except for the last part. What dessert?
Speaker 1: Oh no, that you're is your last male? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So it's is it like an execution situytion? Well, here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I mean, I feel like that's up to you.
Speaker 1: That's what most people think of. But maybe it's you know,
Speaker 1: you're in your dotage, and maybe it's like whatever delicious
Speaker 1: food you want, it just has to be pure because
Speaker 1: you know you've got no teeth. Well, because it could
Speaker 1: be your last meal, like before you get on a
Speaker 1: spaceship to move to you know, the new colony on Mars. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like that context better. But I was talking to
Speaker 1: Darius Rucker, who was Hoodie from Hoodie the Blowfish, and
Speaker 1: he's so lovely. I hung out with him one time.
Speaker 1: He's awesome. He really is genuinely down to earth or
Speaker 1: some hang. He really is oh rich truly, and so
Speaker 1: he said we were talking about not last meals, but
Speaker 1: just whether or not he's had blowfish. It was poisonous.
Speaker 1: Well it is, it is, but I forget the percentage,
Speaker 1: but like maybe less, but it's so it's a real
Speaker 1: risk to eat it. It really would be your last meal,
Speaker 1: wouldn't it if you ate that. That's what Darius. That's
Speaker 1: what Darius said. He said, we were joking about that.
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I said, Darius, you should wait
Speaker 1: for your last meal to have it to like, you know,
Speaker 1: and to try it. Roll the dice, because at that point,
Speaker 1: like whatever if if you got a bad piece, roll
Speaker 1: the dice. Darius. Also in terms of like final moments,
Speaker 1: final things and like funny reminder of your existence, it
Speaker 1: would be so fucking ironic if Hoodie from hooting the blowfish,
Speaker 1: died from eating blowfish, it would be amazing. It would
Speaker 1: be such like a gift to the world. And he
Speaker 1: last he was like, oh my god, I bet he did.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh my gosh. I'd like to try blowfish,
Speaker 1: and I'd like to if if it's a bad piece
Speaker 1: and I'm dying, I'd like to blame it on Hoodie.
Speaker 1: And that has my last words because I think about
Speaker 1: last words offen too, like what are your last words
Speaker 1: going to be? You know? If God forbid a meteor,
Speaker 1: like something just out of nowhere, you're hit by a bus.
Speaker 1: After you said something really like stupid, like oh, you
Speaker 1: know what, I used to like speriment gum the best,
Speaker 1: but I think cinnamon might be better. And then just
Speaker 1: like like done, and then someone would have to whoever
Speaker 1: you were with, would have to tell you loved ones
Speaker 1: and you know they're grieving loved ones by that. What
Speaker 1: was the last thing you said? And it was like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it was something fucking mundane, like really dumb
Speaker 1: and innocuous, like I wish they would remake alf you
Speaker 1: know which I do. Actually, I wish they would remake out.
Speaker 1: I've had too much coffee. I'm sorry. Um my last meal?
Speaker 1: You know what would be? It would be it would
Speaker 1: be soup dumplings. They're called Jolong Bows soup dumplings from
Speaker 1: my favorite dumpling place, which is in New York. It's
Speaker 1: an excellent dumpling house. What else, And then maybe some
Speaker 1: kind of like oh, carvel ice cream fudge not fudge
Speaker 1: you the way, Oh my god, no no, because there's
Speaker 1: too much fudge, and other I would want like like
Speaker 1: a more pure I used to work at Carvels, so
Speaker 1: I know what they have that, you know, the dip
Speaker 1: the ice the cone with a dip and it hardens. Um.
Speaker 1: I used to make a thing where where I would
Speaker 1: it was just vanilla ice cream and I would take
Speaker 1: some of that dip and sprinkle it in with almonds
Speaker 1: and like mix it so that when it hardened, it
Speaker 1: was just like flaky layers of chocolate with the almonds.
Speaker 1: And it was so fucking good. And I haven't had
Speaker 1: it since I was, you know, a teenager, and it
Speaker 1: was such a great summer, and so it would remind
Speaker 1: me of a time, which might not be smart to to,
Speaker 1: you know, remember a good time in your existence right
Speaker 1: before it's over. But that's what I would do. I
Speaker 1: think good memories and and my and my mother's spaghetti
Speaker 1: and meatballs. I would have. It would be a big meal.
Speaker 1: It would be hardy. I'd also feel like rose and
Speaker 1: I'd be like, wow, maybe it's time. It's time to
Speaker 1: go now, it's put me out of my misery. It's funny.
Speaker 1: We talked about that before, about not wanting to remember
Speaker 1: how beautiful your life was at the end, because I
Speaker 1: guess the thought that it would make you so sad
Speaker 1: and unable to let go. But I don't. I don't agree.
Speaker 1: I don't agree because I think that looking back at
Speaker 1: that grace and that beauty and being in that place
Speaker 1: when you die, I think it must be some kind
Speaker 1: of like happy trampoline that vaults you into the next adventure,
Speaker 1: as opposed to something that tethers you and keeps you here.
Speaker 1: It makes you sad. I hope. So that's a nice,
Speaker 1: much nicer thought. Well you can have it, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: taking it. I'm taking your positivity. So your last meal
Speaker 1: blowfish dumplings, spaghetti ice cream. I like that last meal.
Speaker 1: That's good. I'll have that with you. By the way,
Speaker 1: I hope Carvel, I hope Carvel gives me some sort
Speaker 1: of gift certificate for this free are the advertisement. This is,
Speaker 1: by the way, by the way, when you come to England,
Speaker 1: I strongly suggest that you buy a frozen dessert from
Speaker 1: any supermarket called a von Etta and it's gonna it's
Speaker 1: going to speak to what you just described. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: and you're trying to get some free of Vonetta products.
Speaker 1: I see, very shrewd, mini, Yeah, very shrewd. And I
Speaker 1: simply cannot thank you enough because you're You're so funny
Speaker 1: and you do run so deep. It's lovely and I'm
Speaker 1: very grateful that you came on the show. I love
Speaker 1: doing this, Minie. I'm so glad you're doing this too.
Speaker 1: And that to sound kind of sounding, don't you know
Speaker 1: how enriching it can be. Yeah, you're so good at it.
Speaker 1: Well back at you. Thank you. Though life is short
Speaker 1: with Justin Long is out on Wondering and I will
Speaker 1: be on the show July twenty. Justin also co wrote
Speaker 1: and directed Lady of the Manner with his brother Christian,
Speaker 1: and that will be out on September. Mini Questions is
Speaker 1: hosted and written by Me Mini Driver, supervising producer Aaron Kaufman,
Speaker 1: Producer Morgan Lavoy, Research assistant Marissa Brown. Original music Sorry
Speaker 1: Baby by Minni Driver, Additional music by Aaron Kaufman, Executive
Speaker 1: produced by Me Minni Driver. Special thanks to Jim Nikolay,
Speaker 1: Will Pearson, Addison No Day, Lisa Castella and Annicke Oppenheim
Speaker 1: at w kPr, de La Pescador, Kate Driver and Jason Weinberg,
Speaker 1: and for constantly solicited tech support, Henry Driver