1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Randy Edelman. That was the other. It was Trevor Jones 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: and Randy Edelman were the main composers of The Last 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: the Mohicans. Good Old Google. See. Oh my god, I'm 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: such a ludd eyed I'm literally still going to the 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: library in my head when I need to know something 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: instead of just googling. Yeah, but that's I don't think 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: it is. I think it's like total Granny Boomer time. 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Maybe it's both. I just don't think it's filed under 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: horse radish if I wonder if any of your listeners 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: thought you just ran to the library just now. I'll 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: be one minute, Hang on, where's my library card? We 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: edited out I was actually sitting here for forty five minutes, 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: justin take a nap. I'll be right back. Hello, I'm 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: Mini driver and welcome to many Questions. I've always loved 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: priest questionnaire. It was originally an eighteenth century parlor game 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: meant to reveal an individual's true nature. But with so 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: many questions, there wasn't really an opportunity to expand on anything. 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: So I took the format of Proof's questionnaire and adapted 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: what I think are seven of the most important questions 20 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: you could ever ask someone they are when and where 21 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: were you happiest? What is the quality you like least 22 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: about yourself? What relationship, real or fictionalized, defines love for you? 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: What question would you most like answered, What person, place, 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: or experience has shaped you the most? What would be 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: your last meal? And can you tell me something in 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: your life that has grown out of a personal disaster. 27 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: The more people we ask, the more we begin to 28 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: see what makes us similar and what makes us individual. 29 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: I've gathered a group of really remarkable people who I 30 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: am honored and humbled to have had a chance to 31 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: engage with. My guest today is the actor and podcaster 32 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: Justin Long. We've known each other oh long time, but 33 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: the reality that we have remained utter nerds about acting 34 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: and movies has not really changed in all that time. 35 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: Justin asks brilliant questions because I think he is a 36 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: deeply curious human being and has the kind of intellectual 37 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: acuity that's put to great use as an actor, but 38 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: it's probably wasted on it. Also, I went on his 39 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: podcast Life Is Short with Justin Long and we talked 40 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: for a really long time and it was incredibly entertaining, 41 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: but it also made me think about a lot of 42 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: things for a very long time afterwards. The episode is 43 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: out on July, and then when he came on my podcast, 44 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: this podcast, he was equally as generous and considered and hilarious. Okay, Lorry, 45 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to start asking you questions, so you better 46 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: just get ready. I'm ready. I haven't looked at them. 47 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: That could be a disclaimer in case I'm stumbling to No, 48 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: don't worry about that. She stumbled through it. It's going 49 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: to be on my headstand. It's a good question. Okay. Well, 50 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: so now I have to ask you that what would 51 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: be written on your team stone Well, well, you know, 52 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: actually it comes up a lot on the podcast I 53 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: do um and it's always life is short with justin 54 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: long thank you. Yes, I should have done that. That's 55 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: a professional podcaster. I should have It's only been two years. 56 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: You're not to plug my own ship. It would come 57 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: up at the end because I would say, what type 58 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: of legacy do you want to leave behind? What do 59 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: you hope people remember? But it would come on the 60 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: heels of this, like lightning round their uniform questions, and 61 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: it always through the guests, and not necessarily in a 62 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: good way. When you go through the you know, what's 63 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: your favorite movie, and you your favorite fruits and all 64 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: this stuff, and then it would get to this kind 65 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: of nebulous question about being remembered, and I love it. 66 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: It's like, what's your favorite snack? Watch, favorite movie? And 67 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: now I want you to contemplate. Yeah, your existence. I 68 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: know it was always like, oh, people were pretty game 69 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: about it, but it was like I could see it throwing, 70 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: really throwing them. I mean, obviously I saw written on 71 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: a tombstone that I then went and found where it 72 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: came from because it was so beautiful and I knew 73 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: it must have been part of something else. And it's 74 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: the last lines of this poem to be held by 75 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: a woman called Linda Hogan. And on the tombstone it said, 76 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: waiting for the healing after the storm which has been 77 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: our life. Wow, Oh my god, how much that says 78 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: and how much is left to the imagination about that life. Wow, 79 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: it's the most beautiful poem stand laurels is and I'm 80 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: probably gonna bastardize it, but it says something like he 81 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: brought joy to the world that he loved so much. Oh, 82 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: it's so sweet. There's one in Key West. It just 83 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: says I told you I was sick. And I think 84 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: about that one often because it leaves behind. I mean, 85 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: it is the highest degree of permanence I can imagine, 86 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: and that for centuries, people who see that will just 87 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: assume that whoever's under that rock was cheeky and had 88 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: a good sense of humor. You know. I like that. 89 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: Where and when were you happiest? You know what? Honestly, 90 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: I had a moment recently, about a month ago in Arkansas. 91 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: I was taking a drive with a friend and we 92 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: were kind of following signs. We kept finding all these 93 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: really interesting or funny, bizarre signs, literal signs on the 94 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: side of the road, above a storefront graffitied somewhere. I 95 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: just felt very connected to this person, and I felt 96 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: very free and safe. And we had been laughing so much, 97 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: and it was our day off and we were shooting 98 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: this thing, and it it was we had a day off, 99 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: and the sky it was just beautiful, and I was 100 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: thinking about my grandma, who passed away recently a lot, 101 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: and she had given me a sign that she was 102 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: okay and had passed, And so I think that it 103 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: was that day. It was May fourth, that might not 104 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: be interesting, but it was. It was profound to me. No, no, no, no, 105 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: of course it is. I mean we talked a little 106 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: bit about this when I did your podcast. But the 107 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: looking for signs, we seek out those people who have 108 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: gone because oh, sweet little human brains so desperately need 109 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: to physicalize them because we're still here in this reality. 110 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: But I'm a big believer in signs. I thought at 111 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: first you might mean you were following road signs, but 112 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: then the signs actually turned into signs. No, not not. 113 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: In fact, we were lost. We had gotten lost, and 114 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: we turned off our GPS, and uh, there's a real 115 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: purity to not knowing. Sometimes it made us more connected, 116 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: and it made us more aware and present to the surroundings, 117 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: which included, as it turns out, these like really not 118 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: always that bizarre signs. Like for example, we found one 119 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: for like piglets for sale on the side of the road, 120 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: and we looked at each other and like piglets in 121 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: this big farm, sprawling farmhouse, and we said, should we 122 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: are we should we go? Should we go? And we're like, well, yeah, 123 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: we just kept like going and we met this the 124 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: most beautiful pig pigs. Well, we did meet the pigs, 125 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: several pigs. I like that you just followed the things 126 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: that you saw. Yes, I always want signs on the freeway. 127 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: Whenever it's like, you know, put your seatbelt on. I'm 128 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: always hoping that it's secret you going to say, you know, 129 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: sell everything and buy a boat. Oh that's funny. Yeah, 130 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: I know, very specific to you, exactly driver, any person 131 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: in the fucking one. Yes, well, yours could be it 132 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: could be like driver, beware, you know that's true. What 133 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: is the quality you least like about yourself? There are 134 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: several I'm trying to pick just one. I am, well, 135 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm quite scattered. I'm quite um. I guess the easy 136 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: clinical way out would be to say I'm a d D. 137 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: Maybe listeners can tell already that I'm it's hard for 138 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: me to focus in work. That can be a problem, obviously, 139 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: although weirdly when i'm when I have it. That's this 140 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: is why I'd love to mow the lawn or I 141 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: love tasks like that. I of like manual labor tap 142 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: because there's a clarity to it. There's a clear agenda, 143 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: you know. I find comfort in that knowing that, Okay, 144 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: this amount of grass needs to be cut and this 145 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: is how you cut it, and there's something very satisfying 146 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: about that. I couldn't agree more. I think it makes 147 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: you feel safe as well, because it's somehow there are 148 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: boundaries created around time, so you know that for this period, 149 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: you know exactly what you're doing. It's white like being 150 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: an actor is just such a monstrous free fall when 151 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: you don't know where the next job is coming from. 152 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: It unless you're one of you know, sort of a 153 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: handful of actor. Maybe you're in that handful. I'm certainly not. No, no, 154 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: I know exactly, but I totally understand why you knowing 155 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: I am going to mow the lawn now. It's both 156 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: satisfying and safe feeling. In fact, I heard Julie Roberts 157 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: say once on a radio show or something. She said, 158 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: the best time for an actor is the time between 159 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: when you know you've got a job and the time 160 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: that job starts. Oh that's that's not agree more. Where 161 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: you're just you're following, not worried, and you're excited. Yes, yes, 162 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: there's a security. Your feet are planted. It's definitive. There's 163 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: something definitive totally. What relationship, real or fictionalized, defines love 164 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: for you. First of all. At the heart of every 165 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: great relationship, I think is just a real sense of enjoyment. 166 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: There's you really fucking just like being around somebody, and 167 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: there's a mutual curiosity about one another, you know. I 168 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,119 Speaker 1: think that's That's something that I only recently came to appreciate, 169 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: how how much you want to know things about about 170 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 1: a person. It's usually in movies, sadly, I mean, I 171 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: don't know what that says about the relationships I've had, 172 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: but you know, I have like wonderful others and parents, 173 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: but it's it's in the movies where this is I 174 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: think one of the reasons I love movies, where you know, 175 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: you get to you get to witness. This is going 176 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: to sound very pretentious, but I think of like the 177 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: platonic forms, you know, like there's a form of relationship 178 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: that is perfect, and we're all aspiring to that form. 179 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: Every relationship aspires to that and nothing and only in 180 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: movies can it really be perfect, because it ends it's 181 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: so true. I mean, the aspiration to me perfect here 182 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: is mired by compromise. But in the in the films, 183 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: I was too jealous of Madeline Stowe to really embrace 184 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: her in the Last the Mohicans. But like for me, 185 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: the way that dandey Lewis talks to her under the Waterfall, 186 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: I will find you no matter what happens. So long 187 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: I just I mean, I'm sure she's a very nice person. 188 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: But oh my god, that should have been me. I 189 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: think that about Daniel day Lewis should have been me. 190 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: That was my part. It should have been under the waterfall. Yeah, 191 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, people be so mad. God that might 192 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: be when it comes to like romance and relationship. That 193 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: might be the perfect scene. There's there's a desperation, yes, 194 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: to end up in the woods with the person who 195 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: is the last of his kind. You're joking and make 196 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: little babies all day and like hunt sign me up. 197 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: The stakes couldn't be higher, stakes can be not not 198 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: to compare myself to that scene or but I said 199 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,599 Speaker 1: that recently to someone like I need you to and 200 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: it was mutual. I hope that. But that the idea 201 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: that like, don't just be I mean we say it 202 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: all the time to loved ones, be safe, but it's 203 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: that it's that not as heightened. But he says, the 204 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: word occurred, no matter what, stay alive, no matter what 205 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: occurred alive no matter what, you will fold you. Oh 206 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: my god, I just don't die, Like stay here, you 207 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: know that's really beautiful. I know, be here, don't go 208 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: in your life. Can you tell me about something that 209 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: grew out of a personal disaster. Yes, I had a 210 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: had an experience where I was some kid held against 211 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: my will and I had smoked what I thought was weird. 212 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: It turned out to be something else, something really debilitating 213 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: and scary. It was scary, and I jumped out of 214 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: a car to get away, and I was like, run over. 215 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: You jumped out of the car to get away. Like, 216 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: first of all, good job being super high being able 217 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: to jump out of the car. But then did you 218 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: also that you managed to unlock the door and get out, 219 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: and then you got hit by another car when you 220 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,599 Speaker 1: jumped out? No, no, no, because what happens when you 221 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: chumped out of a car. It was it was It 222 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: wasn't going, it wasn't speeding down. It was going like 223 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: an hour around streets. It was three in the morning, 224 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: so there weren't really cars. But I saw head it's 225 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: coming and I I opened the door. Uh, and I 226 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: and when you jump out of a car, for those 227 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: of a few of you who haven't done it. You 228 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: don't land on your feet, you know, unless you're like 229 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: Spider Man. I've rolled and one of the wheels rolled 230 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: over my leg, and so I really obviously sucked up 231 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: my leg, but but I was able to move, I 232 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: was able to get up on it. I did nothing broken, 233 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: which is miraculous. The doctor the next day was like, well, 234 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: it's probably because you bought. You were so messed up. 235 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: You know, your body is not tight um or whatever 236 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: this is. So this experience happened, very frightening thing. But 237 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: out of that I thought about it often, and obviously 238 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: it affected me, and here I am, fourteen years later 239 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: later talking about it. But it helped me appreciate boundaries 240 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: and the way I moved through the world. I was 241 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: very trusting of people, which is not to say I'm 242 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: jaded and cynical now, but I think it just it 243 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: gave me an appreciation for boundaries and protecting my own 244 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: time and space. And I had a tremendous amount of guilt. 245 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: I have a lot of guilt about things. I think 246 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: I waste a lot of time. Why do you feel 247 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: guilty that I did it? Out of guilt? It was 248 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: the guys. This is part of the long story. But 249 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: but the guys that wanted me to smoke, they had 250 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: approached me at a bar. I had been there at 251 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: the bar a couple of nights earlier with a friend 252 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: and I have to tell his name, this name dropping, 253 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: but I have to say it was. It was Steve Boushemy. 254 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: And only because Steve gets so much attention, you know, 255 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: from people, that they had to kind of put us 256 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: in a back room because he's so recognizable. And so 257 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: we had we were like kind of in this room 258 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: off to the side, and it was like it was 259 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: just like a pubby type place, Irish pub. And a 260 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: couple of days later, I was back at the bar 261 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: and these two guys locals approached me and said, the 262 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: funk man, you said you wanted weed. And when we 263 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: came back to get it, like you were in some 264 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: some like v I p areas somewhere we couldn't and 265 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: we went all the way to get and I said, 266 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, and oh, I'm so sorry, and I bought 267 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: them shots, you know, like to make up for it. 268 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: And throughout the night they come over to me and 269 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: the friends I was with and they would oh, this 270 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: this Hollywood guy. He's a Hollywood guy and they and 271 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: my thing at that point was like I just want 272 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: everything to be normal. I just want And that led 273 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: to them being like, well, you're not going to smoke 274 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: with us? Oh my good god. Oh yeah yeah, I'll 275 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: have some Oh yeah, yeah, I just love You're just 276 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: so sweet, like you know, oh, you're not going to 277 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: smoke with us? Oh no, sure, I don't want to 278 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: offend you said, you know you're smoking. They're like weird 279 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: Catchaman like Crystal with it was PCPs, I think. But 280 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: they took me to their apartment. We were all going 281 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: to go to a Cassino. I mean, I got wrapped 282 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: up in these guys. And look, I'm not blaming. It's 283 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: not on them. You know, I have agency and so 284 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: much of what compelled me and that in that night, 285 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: that kind of like scary night was was guilt wanting 286 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: to please and it's ego. I mean, it really is 287 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: ego wanting to be liked. I know, it wanted to 288 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: be like yeah, I think so many women that I 289 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: know would understand that the conversations that we've had about 290 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: the things that you do just because you don't want 291 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: people to not like you. We've been called I oh, 292 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: she's such a bit. So much when you don't do 293 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: the thing that people want you to do, that it 294 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: becomes so tiresome and so toxic that you just end 295 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: up doing the thing that you don't want to do 296 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: just to feel like you're not being bad. It's it's awful. 297 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: It's a fragile part of being human though, it really is. 298 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: I know it's something I want to work on. I 299 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: have a friend who's so good at it, is so 300 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: honest and and knows how to and is not as 301 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: concerned with what people think. Love. I'm so glad you 302 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: didn't end up as somebody's coat. You know, I'd be 303 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: a terrible coat. I mean I'm glad for them too. 304 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't make a good coat. Okay, So what question 305 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: would you most like answered? What? Yeah? I mean like 306 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: for it's what happens afterwards. I think that's the easy 307 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: one for me. What happens to us? What do you 308 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: think happens? I change is all the time, depending on what, 309 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: depending on people I've lost and things that I've experienced, 310 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: any sort of mystical moments I've had, I'll go from 311 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: full doubt to skeptical to to I believe in something, 312 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: to something very concrete, you know. I but I don't 313 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: know because I grew up Catholic, and the one comforting 314 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: thing about that was, you know, there was a structure 315 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: to it in terms of the afterlife. There was a 316 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: heaven and a hell. And I remember leaving in a 317 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: purgatory that to me was the clear structure. It was 318 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: like this three levels, you know, and St. Peter was 319 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: at the gates. I mean, I believed all that stuff. 320 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: And you know, over the years and as you've discovered 321 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: things that changes. There's certain things that like make me 322 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: feel it's just so different about existence and the existence 323 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: of aliens, for example. I mean, I don't know how 324 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: Christians and religious people will reconcile that. How does extreme 325 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: extreme religion make room for aliens doing what we come from, 326 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: where you come from is where we're going, pre birth 327 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: and post life. I am probably the least qualified, but 328 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: I I you're qualified because you're alive, right, But that's 329 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: the thing about being alive. And I love watching the 330 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: nature programs. I love watching anything about animals, and I 331 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: think there's something there's such a harshness, there's such a 332 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: harsh reality when you watch those things I always think of. 333 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: There's that Tennis and nature is read and tooth and claw. 334 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: And I was watching this show about the gelopagus and 335 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: they were talking about one of those kind of sea 336 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: coastal birds. It was the most savage thing I think 337 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: i'd ever seen. Where were the mother at lays two 338 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: eggs and when they hatch the lesser of the two, 339 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: one of them gets pushed out. God, I'm sorry if 340 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: this must be a real bummer, if anyone's still listening, Uh, 341 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: this is a real bum But but it struck me. 342 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: I mean it was like, That's why I say it's 343 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: fluid the way I think about this, because like I 344 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: can't reconcile there being a god, you know when when 345 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: I watch things like that, that the harshness of that, 346 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: and and that maybe that's just what distances. There's a 347 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: weird beauty in it. In the death there is this 348 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: Wordsworth quote is my favorite quote on nature. Nature never 349 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: did betray the heart that loved her, And I don't know, 350 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: getting pushed out of a nest like that shore feels 351 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: like a bit of a betrayal to me. But we 352 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: also remember we put a lot of this human emotion. 353 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: We attach that to these things that happen in nature. 354 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: Whereas I think I do believe in God, but I 355 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: just don't think he she it. I think it's energetic, 356 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: and it just set in motion this kind of experiment. 357 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: And you don't interfere with experiments, you know, when I've 358 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: been out in the field and wanted to interfere in 359 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: situations with animals, like to save an animal but that 360 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: you know is about to be an attack, and they're like, no, no, no, 361 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: you have to let that happen. And you can't save 362 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: the dying animal. You have to let it be part 363 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: of the chain. My dad is a philosophy professor, medieval philosophy, 364 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: and and a lot of that is really obviously outdated now. 365 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: But I loved a quintas is you he leaved in. 366 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: I think he caught it the teleological argument for the 367 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: existence of God, which is the design of everything. The 368 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: design of this world is so perfect that that it 369 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: had to have been it had to have been created 370 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: by something, It had to have had a hand of Yeah, 371 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: and I think that's sometimes in nature. Yeah, I agree. 372 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: It's definitely where I feel most alive and most connected 373 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: and most understanding of this journey that we don't know 374 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: why it starts, we don't know why it ends, or 375 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: like what if there's a point to it. But I 376 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: do know that when I'm in nature, it makes complete 377 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: sense of it, and it's like, oh, I'm I'm here 378 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: and I'm part of this. Yes, yes, well you're talking 379 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: about ego. I think that's is what fails us, is 380 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: our idea that it's meant to be more important. You know, 381 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: it's like when like human beings. I think I said 382 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: this the other day to someone on this show, but 383 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: it bears repeating. You know how when people talk about 384 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: being reincarnated and like no one's ever like you know, 385 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: a like no one's ever like a mute servant that 386 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: they're the pharaoh. You know, I was had made into 387 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: the queen. Why don't think so? Maybe you were like 388 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: a lizard in Egypt? Like why you know, we know 389 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: how arrogant we aggrandized the whole experience, because I think 390 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: that's part of our trying to make sense of it. 391 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: We have to give it as and graces. Otherwise what 392 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: are we tether to? And the only thing I've ever 393 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: felt tethered to, apart from the people that brought me 394 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: into this world is nature. I understand my position in 395 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: this world when I'm in the ocean. I understand it 396 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: when I'm walking through fields or in a river. Right, 397 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: it's the arrogance. Well, that's the fear. That's I think 398 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: where a lot of my fear of death comes from, 399 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: because I'm holding onto ego. It's the I can't leave. 400 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: I mean, to its extreme, it is this, It is 401 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm the center of the world. The world exists because 402 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: of me. I am. My existence is everything. We are 403 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: the center of your world. You are you are the 404 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: force of the center of your experience. But the goal 405 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: is to be mindful to the point where you're you're 406 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: I guess just separating ego. And I think that's maybe 407 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: what happens if we're in nature, we're having those experiences 408 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: in natures, is that we have an understanding that we're 409 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: part of something much bigger. Yeah, I hope that that 410 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: is dying is death. I hope that that is feeling, 411 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: the feeling that one feels when one is part of 412 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: something that is so clearly energetic and evolving and beautiful 413 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: and joyful. Right, And I hope there's a comfort in 414 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: that that's That's the other fear of death is that 415 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: I'll fight it. Oh god, there's a there's a beautiful 416 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: scene in Saving Private Reign where he Adam Goldberg is 417 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: being stabbed the spoiler alert. I think about that a 418 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: lot because the person doing it, the soldier. I think, 419 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: to the German soldier is almost like rocking him. Is there. 420 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: It's tender, Oh my god, and there's guilt and there's 421 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: sadness from the person doing the killing. It's something so 422 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: like profound about that scene. He's like lulling him to sleep, 423 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: He's trying to comfort him as he's killing him. That's 424 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: fucking that's deep, really deep. Yea, so deep. So but 425 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: by the way it is, I don't know. I think 426 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 1: watching my mother die it wasn't frightening. It was like 427 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: it really was like watching someone being born into something else. 428 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: I keep thinking about it, and I do know for 429 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: sure that that is not me trying to qualify her 430 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: being gone. I do know that that was the deep, 431 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: profound instinct that I think is connected to all the 432 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: stuff that isn't human. It was a knowing, it was 433 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: an absolute knowing that this was this was the ending 434 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: of something in the beginning of something else, and it 435 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: felt deeply that way, not consciously. It's really beautiful. Thanks Pet. 436 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: So last question my friend, Okay, so what would be 437 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: your last male? Oh? Boy, I like this one. This 438 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: is this is fun except for the last part. What dessert? 439 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: Oh no, that you're is your last male? Yeah? Yeah? 440 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: So it's is it like an execution situytion? Well, here's 441 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: the thing. I mean, I feel like that's up to you. 442 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: That's what most people think of. But maybe it's you know, 443 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: you're in your dotage, and maybe it's like whatever delicious 444 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: food you want, it just has to be pure because 445 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: you know you've got no teeth. Well, because it could 446 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: be your last meal, like before you get on a 447 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: spaceship to move to you know, the new colony on Mars. Okay, 448 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: I like that context better. But I was talking to 449 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: Darius Rucker, who was Hoodie from Hoodie the Blowfish, and 450 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: he's so lovely. I hung out with him one time. 451 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: He's awesome. He really is genuinely down to earth or 452 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: some hang. He really is oh rich truly, and so 453 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: he said we were talking about not last meals, but 454 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: just whether or not he's had blowfish. It was poisonous. 455 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: Well it is, it is, but I forget the percentage, 456 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: but like maybe less, but it's so it's a real 457 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: risk to eat it. It really would be your last meal, 458 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't it if you ate that. That's what Darius. That's 459 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: what Darius said. He said, we were joking about that. 460 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I said, Darius, you should wait 461 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: for your last meal to have it to like, you know, 462 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: and to try it. Roll the dice, because at that point, 463 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: like whatever if if you got a bad piece, roll 464 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: the dice. Darius. Also in terms of like final moments, 465 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: final things and like funny reminder of your existence, it 466 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: would be so fucking ironic if Hoodie from hooting the blowfish, 467 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: died from eating blowfish, it would be amazing. It would 468 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: be such like a gift to the world. And he 469 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: last he was like, oh my god, I bet he did. 470 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh my gosh. I'd like to try blowfish, 471 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: and I'd like to if if it's a bad piece 472 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: and I'm dying, I'd like to blame it on Hoodie. 473 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: And that has my last words because I think about 474 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: last words offen too, like what are your last words 475 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: going to be? You know? If God forbid a meteor, 476 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: like something just out of nowhere, you're hit by a bus. 477 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: After you said something really like stupid, like oh, you 478 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: know what, I used to like speriment gum the best, 479 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 1: but I think cinnamon might be better. And then just 480 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: like like done, and then someone would have to whoever 481 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: you were with, would have to tell you loved ones 482 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: and you know they're grieving loved ones by that. What 483 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: was the last thing you said? And it was like, uh, 484 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, it was something fucking mundane, like really dumb 485 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: and innocuous, like I wish they would remake alf you 486 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: know which I do. Actually, I wish they would remake out. 487 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: I've had too much coffee. I'm sorry. Um my last meal? 488 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: You know what would be? It would be it would 489 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: be soup dumplings. They're called Jolong Bows soup dumplings from 490 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: my favorite dumpling place, which is in New York. It's 491 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: an excellent dumpling house. What else, And then maybe some 492 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: kind of like oh, carvel ice cream fudge not fudge 493 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: you the way, Oh my god, no no, because there's 494 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: too much fudge, and other I would want like like 495 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: a more pure I used to work at Carvels, so 496 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: I know what they have that, you know, the dip 497 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: the ice the cone with a dip and it hardens. Um. 498 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: I used to make a thing where where I would 499 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: it was just vanilla ice cream and I would take 500 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: some of that dip and sprinkle it in with almonds 501 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: and like mix it so that when it hardened, it 502 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: was just like flaky layers of chocolate with the almonds. 503 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: And it was so fucking good. And I haven't had 504 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: it since I was, you know, a teenager, and it 505 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: was such a great summer, and so it would remind 506 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: me of a time, which might not be smart to to, 507 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: you know, remember a good time in your existence right 508 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: before it's over. But that's what I would do. I 509 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: think good memories and and my and my mother's spaghetti 510 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: and meatballs. I would have. It would be a big meal. 511 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: It would be hardy. I'd also feel like rose and 512 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: I'd be like, wow, maybe it's time. It's time to 513 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: go now, it's put me out of my misery. It's funny. 514 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: We talked about that before, about not wanting to remember 515 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: how beautiful your life was at the end, because I 516 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: guess the thought that it would make you so sad 517 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: and unable to let go. But I don't. I don't agree. 518 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: I don't agree because I think that looking back at 519 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: that grace and that beauty and being in that place 520 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: when you die, I think it must be some kind 521 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: of like happy trampoline that vaults you into the next adventure, 522 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: as opposed to something that tethers you and keeps you here. 523 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: It makes you sad. I hope. So that's a nice, 524 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: much nicer thought. Well you can have it, okay, I'm 525 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: taking it. I'm taking your positivity. So your last meal 526 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: blowfish dumplings, spaghetti ice cream. I like that last meal. 527 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: That's good. I'll have that with you. By the way, 528 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: I hope Carvel, I hope Carvel gives me some sort 529 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: of gift certificate for this free are the advertisement. This is, 530 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: by the way, by the way, when you come to England, 531 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: I strongly suggest that you buy a frozen dessert from 532 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: any supermarket called a von Etta and it's gonna it's 533 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: going to speak to what you just described. Okay, all right, 534 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: and you're trying to get some free of Vonetta products. 535 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: I see, very shrewd, mini, Yeah, very shrewd. And I 536 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: simply cannot thank you enough because you're You're so funny 537 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: and you do run so deep. It's lovely and I'm 538 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: very grateful that you came on the show. I love 539 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: doing this, Minie. I'm so glad you're doing this too. 540 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: And that to sound kind of sounding, don't you know 541 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: how enriching it can be. Yeah, you're so good at it. 542 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: Well back at you. Thank you. Though life is short 543 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: with Justin Long is out on Wondering and I will 544 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: be on the show July twenty. Justin also co wrote 545 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: and directed Lady of the Manner with his brother Christian, 546 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: and that will be out on September. Mini Questions is 547 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: hosted and written by Me Mini Driver, supervising producer Aaron Kaufman, 548 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: Producer Morgan Lavoy, Research assistant Marissa Brown. Original music Sorry 549 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: Baby by Minni Driver, Additional music by Aaron Kaufman, Executive 550 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: produced by Me Minni Driver. Special thanks to Jim Nikolay, 551 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: Will Pearson, Addison No Day, Lisa Castella and Annicke Oppenheim 552 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: at w kPr, de La Pescador, Kate Driver and Jason Weinberg, 553 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: and for constantly solicited tech support, Henry Driver