WEBVTT - CZM Book Club: "Svend and His Brethren" by William Morris, Part One

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media. It's the cools On Media book Club,

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<v Speaker 1>which has always been our jingle. I'm your host, Margaret

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<v Speaker 1>Kiljoy and this week, Uncles On Media book Club, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to read you a story. How was that different

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<v Speaker 1>from other weeks? It's not. That's the great thing about

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts is that they do a thing and then they

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<v Speaker 1>keep doing that thing forever wherever. Anyway, Okay, so last

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<v Speaker 1>week I brought you a story by William Morris, who

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<v Speaker 1>was the in case anyone missed that one, William Morris

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<v Speaker 1>is this wildly fascinating man. He was the socialist in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteenth century England who was from a upper middle class background,

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<v Speaker 1>who became the primary one of the primary interior designers

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<v Speaker 1>and like textile designers of Victorian England, and like set

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<v Speaker 1>so many of the aesthetic ideas. When you imagine Victorian wallpaper,

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<v Speaker 1>you were imagining something that William Morris either designed or

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<v Speaker 1>was designing very similar things. But he was also kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the inventor of the fantasy genre. There's other people

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<v Speaker 1>who argue about other books that will have done this prior,

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<v Speaker 1>but in a lot of ways, the modern fantasy genre

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<v Speaker 1>can be tracked to William Morris. Writing a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>novels about secondary worlds with magic, and he's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the primary inspirations for JR. Tolkien. And why am I

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<v Speaker 1>talking so much about him when we read him last week?

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<v Speaker 1>Because we're going to read him again. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>read a slightly longer story and it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>this week and next week. And the reason I want

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<v Speaker 1>to read you all this story is because not only

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<v Speaker 1>did William Morris inspire JR. Tolkien, I suspeact inspired Ursula

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<v Speaker 1>Lagwin and Ursula Gwinn. For those who are not familiar,

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<v Speaker 1>which is probably very few of you, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone starts somewhere. Ursulo Gwin is one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>important feminist science fiction writers of all time. I consider

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<v Speaker 1>her personally to be the greatest English language anarchist fiction writer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I care about her work a lot, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of my friends do too. And she wrote this

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<v Speaker 1>one story that I won't read to you because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I'd have to get in touch with her estate

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<v Speaker 1>in order to make that happen. But she and also

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<v Speaker 1>it's like not long enough for this podcast. She wrote

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<v Speaker 1>the story called The Ones Who Walked Away from Omelas

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<v Speaker 1>and this story, I'm gonna spoil it for you because

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a little thought experiment. And in that story,

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<v Speaker 1>there's like a perfect, happy, utopian society where the children

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<v Speaker 1>are playing and the banners are flying and everything is

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<v Speaker 1>good and lovely. And the way that they make that

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<v Speaker 1>happen is that one child is locked up and tortured.

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<v Speaker 1>And how looking at this perfect society but based on

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<v Speaker 1>this fundamentally evil thing, some people walk away, some people leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Omelas LeGuin was an anarchist pacifist, and that idea comes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that that is that story is

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the most perfect encapsulation of anarchist pacifism as a

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<v Speaker 1>as a parable, and it's a very important story in

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of science fiction canon. A lot of authors

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<v Speaker 1>have sort of written responses or follow ups or sequels

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, other things that tie into it. Personally,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing I've read quite touches the original and sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a like perfectness. And it's so you can only write

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<v Speaker 1>perfect stuff if you write really short, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can do a little perfect, little parable. And I've never

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<v Speaker 1>before run across anything that made me think, oh this

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<v Speaker 1>might have inspired Legwin with o Malas. And then also

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<v Speaker 1>Legwin wrote a book called The Eye of the Heron

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<v Speaker 1>that is in some ways a more book length exploration

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<v Speaker 1>of that idea of pacifism and walking away. But then

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading a lot of William Morris stories and

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<v Speaker 1>I read a story called Svend and his Brethren from

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen fifty six. And that's the story I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>read to you today because I think it's related. And

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<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong, but I would suspect that this book,

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<v Speaker 1>the story inspired Legwin to some level. Now, this story

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<v Speaker 1>was written in eighteen fifty six. Like the last story

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote, William Morris wrote a bunch of romances, as

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<v Speaker 1>they were called, which meant like thet of fantasy fables, right,

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<v Speaker 1>not like more like romantic the art movement, not like

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<v Speaker 1>romance novels, although I would read the Shit out of

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<v Speaker 1>a Wayamore's romance novel based on that last story we

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<v Speaker 1>read where he's talking about how beautiful this man is.

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<v Speaker 1>But he wrote all these stories I think while he

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<v Speaker 1>was in college. I think while he was in college,

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<v Speaker 1>while he was at Oxford, and they were published in

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<v Speaker 1>the Literary Journal there, and that's like more or less

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<v Speaker 1>his short story output. And after that he wrote epic

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<v Speaker 1>poetry for a long time, and then later in his

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<v Speaker 1>life he wrote all of the novels, which are much

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<v Speaker 1>more influential overall. And this story, like the last one,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit I'm gonna use this word imprecisely.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit baroque. It's a little bit the

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<v Speaker 1>writing is a little bit flowery. Some certain things you're

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<v Speaker 1>not entirely certain what's happening. And because one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy years have passed since this story came out, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of go ahead and tell you a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about the plots of an easier time following it,

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<v Speaker 1>because I would have done me some good. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a story about out one country conquering another, And at

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<v Speaker 1>the start of it, it is about one country conquering another.

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<v Speaker 1>And how is someone, a woman from that conquered country,

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<v Speaker 1>in order to stop the war, marries the king of

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<v Speaker 1>the other country and is not happy about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>then it's a story about their children and the decisions

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<v Speaker 1>that they choose to make. And that's the part where

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<v Speaker 1>it starts getting well, what's all interesting. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>like it. I hope you like it as much as

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<v Speaker 1>I do, because I'll be reading it this week and

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<v Speaker 1>next week, and it's called Svend and his Brethren from

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen fifty six by William Morris. A king in the

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<v Speaker 1>olden time ruled over a mighty nation. A proud man,

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<v Speaker 1>he must have been any man who was king of

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<v Speaker 1>that nation. Hundreds of lords each, a prince over many people,

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<v Speaker 1>sat about him in the council chamber under the dim

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<v Speaker 1>vault that was blue like the vault of heaven, and

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<v Speaker 1>shone with innumerable glistenings of golden stars. North, south, east

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<v Speaker 1>and west. Spread that land of his. The sea did

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<v Speaker 1>not stop it. His empire clomb the high mountains and

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<v Speaker 1>spread abroad its arms over the valleys of them. All

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<v Speaker 1>along the sea lined shore cities set with their crowns

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<v Speaker 1>of towers in the midst of broad bays, each fit.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed to be a harbor for the navies of

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<v Speaker 1>all the world. Inland, the pastures and cornlands lay checkered,

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<v Speaker 1>much with climbing over tumbling grape vines under the sun

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<v Speaker 1>that crumbled their clods and drew up the young wheat

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<v Speaker 1>in the springtime, under the rain that made the long

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<v Speaker 1>grass soft and fine. Under all fair fertilizing influences. The

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<v Speaker 1>streams leapt down from the mountain tops or cleft their

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<v Speaker 1>way through the ridged ravines. They grew great rivers like seas.

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<v Speaker 1>Each one. The mountains were cloven and gave forth from

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<v Speaker 1>their scarred sides wealth of ore and splendor of marble.

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<v Speaker 1>All things this people that King Valdemar ruled over could do.

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<v Speaker 1>They leveled mountains that over the smooth roads the wains

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<v Speaker 1>might go laden with silks and spices. From the sea.

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<v Speaker 1>They drained lakes that the land might yield more and

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<v Speaker 1>more As year by year the serfs, driven like cattle,

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<v Speaker 1>but worse fed, worse housed, died slowly scarce. Knowing they

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<v Speaker 1>had souls, They builded them huge ships, and said they

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<v Speaker 1>were masters of the sea too. Only I trow the

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<v Speaker 1>sea was an unruly subject, and often sent them back

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<v Speaker 1>their ships cut into more pieces than the pines of

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<v Speaker 1>them were when the ads first fell upon them. They

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<v Speaker 1>raised towers and bridges, and marble palaces with endless corridors,

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<v Speaker 1>rose scented and cooled with welling fountains. They sent great

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<v Speaker 1>armies and fleets to all points of heaven that the

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<v Speaker 1>winds blow from. Who took and burned many happy cities, wasted,

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<v Speaker 1>many fields and valleys blotted out from the memory of men.

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<v Speaker 1>The names of nations made their men's lives a hopeless

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<v Speaker 1>shame and misery to them, their women's lives disgrace, And

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<v Speaker 1>then came home to have flowers thrown on them in showers,

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<v Speaker 1>to be feasted and called heroes. Should not then their

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<v Speaker 1>king be proud of them? Moreover, they could fashion stone

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<v Speaker 1>and brass into the shapes of men. They could write books.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew the names of the stars and their number.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew what moved the passions of men in the

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<v Speaker 1>hearts of them, and could draw you up cunningly catalogs

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<v Speaker 1>of virtues and vices. Their wise men could prove to

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<v Speaker 1>you that any lie was true, that any truth was false,

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<v Speaker 1>till your head grew dizzy and your heart sick, and

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<v Speaker 1>you almost doubted if there were a god. Should not

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<v Speaker 1>then their king be proud of them? Their men were

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<v Speaker 1>strong in body and moved about gracefully like dancers, and

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<v Speaker 1>the purple, black scented hair of their gold clothed knights

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to shoot out rays under the blaze of light

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<v Speaker 1>that shone like many suns in the king's halls. Their

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<v Speaker 1>women's faces were very fair in red and white, their

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<v Speaker 1>skins fair and half transparent like the marble of their mountains,

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<v Speaker 1>and their voices sounded like the rising of soft music

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<v Speaker 1>from step to step of their own white palaces. Should not,

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<v Speaker 1>then their king be proud of such a people who

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to help so in carrying on the world to

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<v Speaker 1>its consummate perfection, which they even hoped their grandchildren would see.

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<v Speaker 1>Alas alas they were slaves, king and priest, noble and burgher,

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<v Speaker 1>just as much as the meanest task surf, perhaps more

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<v Speaker 1>even than he, for they were so willingly and he

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<v Speaker 1>unwillingly enough they could do everything but justice and truth

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<v Speaker 1>and mercy. Therefore God's judgments hung over their heads, not

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<v Speaker 1>fallen yet, but surely to fall one time or other.

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<v Speaker 1>For ages past they had warred against one people only

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<v Speaker 1>whom they could not utterly subdue, a feeble people in

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<v Speaker 1>numbers dwelling in the very midst of them among the mountains.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet now they were pressing them close, acre after acre,

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<v Speaker 1>with seas of blood to purchase. Each acre had been

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<v Speaker 1>wrested from the free people, and their end seeming drawing

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<v Speaker 1>near and this time the king Valdemar had marched to

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<v Speaker 1>their land with a great army to make war on them.

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<v Speaker 1>He boasted to himself, almost for the last time, a

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<v Speaker 1>walled town in the free land. In that town a

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<v Speaker 1>house built of rough, splintery stones, and in a great,

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<v Speaker 1>low browed room of that house a gray haired man

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<v Speaker 1>paid seen to and fro impatiently. Will she never come,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, it is two hours since the sunset. News

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<v Speaker 1>too of the enemy's being in the land. How dreadful

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<v Speaker 1>if she is taken. His great broad face is marked

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<v Speaker 1>with many furrows, made by the fierce, restless energy of

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<v Speaker 1>the man. But there is a wearied look on it,

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<v Speaker 1>the look of a man who, having done his best,

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<v Speaker 1>is yet beaten. He seemed to long to be gone

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<v Speaker 1>and be at peace. He, the fighter in many battles,

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<v Speaker 1>who often had seemed with his single arm to roll

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<v Speaker 1>back the whole tide of fight, felt despairing enough. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this last invasion, he thought, must surely quite settle the matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Wave after wave, wave after wave had broken on that

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<v Speaker 1>dear land and been rolled back from it, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>the hungry sea pressed on. They must be finally drowned

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<v Speaker 1>in that sea how fearfully they had been tried for

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<v Speaker 1>their sins. Back again to his anxiety concerning Cecilla, his daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>go his thoughts, and he still paces up and down, wearily,

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<v Speaker 1>stopping now and then to gaze intently on things which

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<v Speaker 1>he has seen a hundred times. And the night has

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<v Speaker 1>altogether come on. But what you have probably seen a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred times is me make cynical ad transitions in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of podcasts like this one. And we're back at last.

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<v Speaker 1>The blast of a horn from outside, a challenge and

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<v Speaker 1>counter challenge, and the wicket to the courtyard is swung open.

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<v Speaker 1>For this house, being in a part of the city

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<v Speaker 1>where the walls are somewhat weak, is a little fortress

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<v Speaker 1>in itself, and is very carefully guarded. The old man's

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<v Speaker 1>face brightened at the sound of the newcomer, and he

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<v Speaker 1>went toward the entrance of the house, where he was

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<v Speaker 1>met by two young knights fully armed, and a maiden.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank god you are come, he says, but stops when

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<v Speaker 1>he sees her face, which is quite pale, almost wild,

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<v Speaker 1>with some sorrow. The Saint Cecilia, what is it, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>Father Eric will tell you. Then suddenly a clang for

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<v Speaker 1>Eric has thrown on the ground a richly jeweled sword sheathed,

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<v Speaker 1>and sets his foot on it, crunching the pearls on

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<v Speaker 1>the sheath, then says, flinging up his head. There, father,

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<v Speaker 1>the enemy is in the land. May that happen to

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<v Speaker 1>every one of them. But for my part, I've accounted

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<v Speaker 1>for two already, son, Eric, Son, Eric, you talk forever

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<v Speaker 1>about yourself. Quick, tell me about Cecilia instead. If you

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<v Speaker 1>go on boasting and talking always about yourself, you will

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<v Speaker 1>come to no good end. Son after all, But as

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<v Speaker 1>he says this, he smiles nevertheless, and his eyes glistens. Well, father, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>such a strange thing she tells us. Not to be

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<v Speaker 1>believed if she did not tell us herself. The enemy

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<v Speaker 1>has suddenly got generous, one of them at least, which

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<v Speaker 1>is something of a disappointment to me. Ah, pardon about

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<v Speaker 1>myself again, And that is about myself too. Well, Father,

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<v Speaker 1>what am I to do? But Cecila, she has wandered

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<v Speaker 1>some way from her maidens. When Ah, but I never

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<v Speaker 1>could tell a story properly. Let her tell it herself

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<v Speaker 1>here Cecilla. Well, well, I see she is better employed

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<v Speaker 1>talking namely, How should I know what with sure in

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<v Speaker 1>the window seat yonder. But she has told us that

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<v Speaker 1>as she wandered, almost by herself, she presently heard shouts

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<v Speaker 1>and saw many of the enemy's knights riding quickly towards her.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereat she knelt only and prayed to God, who was

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<v Speaker 1>very gracious to her, For when as she thought something

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<v Speaker 1>dreadful was about to happen, the chief of the knights,

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<v Speaker 1>a very noble looking man, she said, rescued her, and,

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<v Speaker 1>after he had gave earnestly into her face, told her

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<v Speaker 1>she might go back again to her own home and

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<v Speaker 1>her maids with her, if only she would tell him

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<v Speaker 1>where she dwelt in her name, and withal. He sent

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<v Speaker 1>three knights to escort her some way toward the city.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he turned and rode away with all his knights,

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<v Speaker 1>but those three, who, when they knew that he had

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<v Speaker 1>quite gone, she says, began to talk horribly, saying things

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<v Speaker 1>whereof in her terror, she understood the import Only then,

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<v Speaker 1>before worse came to pass, came I and slew too,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, And the other ran away lustily with

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<v Speaker 1>a good courage. And that is the sword of one

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<v Speaker 1>of the slain knights, or as one might rather call

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<v Speaker 1>them rascally katiffs. The old man's thoughts seemed to have

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<v Speaker 1>gone wandering after his son had finished, for he said

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<v Speaker 1>nothing for some time, but at last spoke dejectedly, Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>brave son. When I was your age, I too hoped,

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<v Speaker 1>and my hopes are to come to this at last.

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<v Speaker 1>You are blind in your hopeful, youth, Eric, And do

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<v Speaker 1>not see that this king, for the king it certainly was,

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<v Speaker 1>will crush us, and not the less surely, because he

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<v Speaker 1>is plainly not ungenerous, but rather a good, courteous knight.

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<v Speaker 1>Alas poor old gunner, broken down now and ready to die,

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<v Speaker 1>as your country is. How often in the olden time

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<v Speaker 1>thou used to say to thyself, as thou didst ride

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<v Speaker 1>at the head of our glorious house, this charge may

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<v Speaker 1>finish this matter, this battle must They passed away, those

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<v Speaker 1>gallant fights, and still the foe pressed on, and hope

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<v Speaker 1>too slowly ebbed away, as the boundaries of our land

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<v Speaker 1>grew less and less. Behold, this is the last wave,

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<v Speaker 1>but one or two, and then for a sad farewell

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<v Speaker 1>to name and freedom. Yet surely the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>world must come, when we are swept off the face

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<v Speaker 1>of the earth. God waits long, they say, before he

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<v Speaker 1>avenges his own. As he was speaking, shure and Cecilia

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<v Speaker 1>came nearer to him, and Sellah, all traces of her

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<v Speaker 1>late terror gone from her face. Now, raising her lips

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<v Speaker 1>to his bended forehead, kissed him fondly and said, with

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<v Speaker 1>glowing face, Father, how can I help our people? Do

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<v Speaker 1>they want deaths? I will die? Do they want happiness?

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<v Speaker 1>I will live miserably through years and years, Nor ever

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<v Speaker 1>pray for death. Some hope or other seemed growing up

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<v Speaker 1>his heart and showing through his face when he spoke again,

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<v Speaker 1>putting back the hair from off her face and clasping

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<v Speaker 1>it about with both his hands while he stooped to

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<v Speaker 1>kiss her, much like I have stooped to selling ads

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<v Speaker 1>for a living. Here's the ads, and we're back. God,

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<v Speaker 1>remember your mother, Cissela. Then it was no dream after all,

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<v Speaker 1>but true, perhaps as indeed it seemed at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But it must come quickly, that woman's deliverance, or not

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<v Speaker 1>at all? When was it that I heard that old

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<v Speaker 1>tale that sounded even then true to my ears? For

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<v Speaker 1>we have not been punished for naught, my son. That

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<v Speaker 1>is not God's way. It comes across my memory, somehow

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<v Speaker 1>mingled in a wonderful manner with the purple of the

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<v Speaker 1>pines on the hillside, with the fragrance of them born

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<v Speaker 1>from far towards me. For know, my children, that in

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<v Speaker 1>times passed long long past, now we did an evil

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<v Speaker 1>deed for our forefathers, who have been dead now and

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<v Speaker 1>forgiven so long ago. Once, mad with rage at some

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<v Speaker 1>defeat from their enemies, fired a church and burned therein

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<v Speaker 1>many women who had fled thither for refuge. And from

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<v Speaker 1>that time a curse cleaves to us. Only they say

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<v Speaker 1>that at last we may be saved from utter destruction

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<v Speaker 1>by a woman. I know not, God grant it may

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<v Speaker 1>be so. Then she said, father, brother, and you sure

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<v Speaker 1>come with with me to the chapel. I wish you

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<v Speaker 1>to witness me make an oath. Her face was pale,

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<v Speaker 1>her lips were pale. Her golden hail was pale, but

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<v Speaker 1>not pale. It seemed from any sinking of blood, but

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<v Speaker 1>from gathering of intensest light from somewhere her eyes perhaps,

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<v Speaker 1>for they appeared to burn Inwardly. They followed the sweeping

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<v Speaker 1>of her purple robe in silence through the low, heavy

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<v Speaker 1>beamed passages they entered the little chapel, dimly lighted by

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<v Speaker 1>the moon that night as it shone through one of

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<v Speaker 1>the three arrow slits of windows at the east end.

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<v Speaker 1>There was little wealth of marble there I trow little

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<v Speaker 1>time had those fighting men for stone smoothing, albeit one

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<v Speaker 1>noted many semblances of flowers even in the dim half light.

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<v Speaker 1>And here and there the faces of brave men, roughly

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<v Speaker 1>cut enough, but grand because the hand of the carver

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<v Speaker 1>had followed his loving heart. Neither was their gold. Wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to the altar and its canopy. Above the low pillars

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<v Speaker 1>of the knave hung banners taken from the foe by

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<v Speaker 1>the men of that house. Gallant with gold and jewels,

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<v Speaker 1>she walked up to the altar and took the Blessed

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<v Speaker 1>Book of the Gospels from the left side of it,

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<v Speaker 1>then knelt in prayer for a moment or two while

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<v Speaker 1>the three men stood behind her reverently. When she rose,

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<v Speaker 1>she made a sign to them, and from their scabbards

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<v Speaker 1>gleamed three swords in the moonlight. Then, while they held

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<v Speaker 1>them aloft and pointed toward the altar, she opened the

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<v Speaker 1>book at the page whereon was painted Christ, the Lord

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<v Speaker 1>dying on the cross, pale against the gleaming gold, She said,

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<v Speaker 1>in a firm voice, Christ, God, who dietist for all men,

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<v Speaker 1>so help me, as I refuse not life, happiness, even

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<v Speaker 1>honor for this people whom I love. Then she kissed

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<v Speaker 1>the face so pale against the gold, and knelt again.

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<v Speaker 1>But when she had risen, and before she could leave

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<v Speaker 1>the space by the altar, Shore had stepped up to

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<v Speaker 1>her and seized her hurriedly, folding both his arms about her.

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<v Speaker 1>She let herself be held there, her bosom against his.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he held her away from him a little space,

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<v Speaker 1>holding her by the arms near the shoulder. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>took her hands and laid them across his shoulders, so

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<v Speaker 1>that now she held him. And they said nothing. What

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<v Speaker 1>could they say? Do you know any word for what

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<v Speaker 1>they meant? And the father and brother stood by, looking

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<v Speaker 1>quite awe struck more so than they seemed by her

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<v Speaker 1>solemn oath. Till Shore, raising his head from where it lay,

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<v Speaker 1>cried out aloud, May God forgive me as I am

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<v Speaker 1>true to her. Hear you. Father and brother, then said Cecilia,

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<v Speaker 1>may God help me in my need, as I am

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<v Speaker 1>true to shure. And the others went, and the two

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<v Speaker 1>were left standing there alone, with no little awe over them,

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<v Speaker 1>strange and shy as they had never been yet to

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<v Speaker 1>each other. Cecilla shuddered and said, in a quick whisper,

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<v Speaker 1>sure on your knees and pray that these oaths may

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<v Speaker 1>never clash? Can they? Cecilia? He said, Oh love, she cried,

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<v Speaker 1>you have loosed my hand. Take it again, or I

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<v Speaker 1>shall die. Sure. He took both her hands and held

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<v Speaker 1>them fast to his lips and to his forehead. He said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>God does not allow such things. Truth does not lie.

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<v Speaker 1>You are truth. This need not be prayed for. She said, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>forgive me yet Yet this old chapel is damp and cold,

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<v Speaker 1>even in the burning summer weather. Oh night, sure something

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<v Speaker 1>strikes through me. I pray, you kneel and pray. He

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<v Speaker 1>looked steadily at her for a long time without answering,

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<v Speaker 1>as if he were trying once and for all to

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<v Speaker 1>become indeed one with her. Then said, yes, it is possible.

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<v Speaker 1>In no other way could you give up everything. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he took off from his finger a thin golden ring

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<v Speaker 1>and broke it in two and gave her the one half, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>when will they come together? Then within a while they

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<v Speaker 1>left the chapel and walked as in a dream, between

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<v Speaker 1>the dazzling nights of the hall where the knight sat. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>and between those lights sat down together, dreaming still the

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<v Speaker 1>same dream, each of them, while all the knights shouted

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<v Speaker 1>for sure and Cecilla. Even if a man had spent

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<v Speaker 1>all his life looking for sorrowful things, even if he

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<v Speaker 1>had sought them with all his heart and soul, even

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<v Speaker 1>though he had grown gray in that quest, yet would

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<v Speaker 1>he have found nothing in all the world, or perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>in all the stars, either so sorrowful as Cecila. They

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<v Speaker 1>had accepted her sacrifice after long deliberation. They had arrayed

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<v Speaker 1>her in purple and scarlet. They had crowned her with gold,

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<v Speaker 1>wrought about with jewels. They had spread abroad the veil

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<v Speaker 1>of her golden hair. Yet now as they led her

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<v Speaker 1>forth in the midst of the band of knights, her

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<v Speaker 1>brother Eric holding fast her hand, each man felt like

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<v Speaker 1>a murderer when he beheld her face, whereon was no tear,

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<v Speaker 1>wherein was no writhing of muscle, twitching of nerve, wherein

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<v Speaker 1>was no sorrow mark of her own, but only the

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<v Speaker 1>sorrow mark which God sent her, and which she must

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<v Speaker 1>perforce whear. Yet they had not caught eagerly at her offer.

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<v Speaker 1>They had said, at first, almost to a man, nay,

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<v Speaker 1>this thing shall not be let us die altogether, rather

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<v Speaker 1>than this. Yet, as they sat and said this to

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<v Speaker 1>each man of the council, came floating dim memories of

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<v Speaker 1>that curse of the burned women and its remedy. To

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<v Speaker 1>many it ran rhythmically, an old song, better known by

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<v Speaker 1>the music than the words heard once and again long ago,

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<v Speaker 1>when the gusty wind overmastered the chestnut boughs and strewed

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<v Speaker 1>the smooth sward with their star leaves. With all came

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts to each man, partly selfishly, partly wise and just,

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<v Speaker 1>concerning his own wife and children, concerning children yet unborn,

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts too of the glory of the old name, all

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<v Speaker 1>that had and suffered and done, that the glorious free

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>land might yet be a nation. And the spirit of hope,

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<v Speaker 1>never dead but sleeping, only woke up within their hearts.

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<v Speaker 1>We may yet be a people, they said to themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>if we can but get breathing time. And as they

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<v Speaker 1>thought these things and doubted, shure rose up in the

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<v Speaker 1>midst of them, and said, you are right. In what

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<v Speaker 1>you think, countrymen, and she is right. She is altogether

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<v Speaker 1>good and noble. Sent her forth. Then, with one look

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<v Speaker 1>of utter despair at her, as she stood statue like,

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<v Speaker 1>he left the council, lest he should fall down and

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<v Speaker 1>die in the midst of them, he said. Yet he

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<v Speaker 1>died not then, but lived for many years afterwards. But

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<v Speaker 1>they rose from their seats, and when they were armed,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was royally arrayed, they went with her, leading

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<v Speaker 1>her through the dear streets, whence you always saw the

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<v Speaker 1>great pine shadowed mountains. She went away from all that

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<v Speaker 1>was dear to her, to go and sit a crowned

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<v Speaker 1>queen in the dreary Monde marble Palace, whose outer walls

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<v Speaker 1>rose up from the weary hearted sea. She could not

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<v Speaker 1>think she durst not. She feared if she did that

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<v Speaker 1>she would curse her beauty, almost curse the name of love.

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<v Speaker 1>Curse Sure. Though she knew he was right for not

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<v Speaker 1>slaying her, she feared she might curse God. So she

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<v Speaker 1>thought not at all, steeping her senses utterly, and forgetfulness

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<v Speaker 1>of the happy past, destroying all anticipation of the future. Yet,

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<v Speaker 1>as they left the city, amidst the tears of women

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<v Speaker 1>and fixed sorrowful gaze of men. She turned round once

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<v Speaker 1>and stretched her arms out involuntarily, like a dumb, senseless thing,

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<v Speaker 1>towards the place where she was born, and where her

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<v Speaker 1>life grew happier day by day, and where his arms

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<v Speaker 1>first crept round about her. She turned away and thought,

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<v Speaker 1>but in a cold, speculative manner, how it was possible

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<v Speaker 1>that she was bearing this sorrow, as she often before

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<v Speaker 1>had wondered when slight things vexed her over much, how

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<v Speaker 1>people had such sorrow? Rosen lived, and almost doubted if

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<v Speaker 1>the pain was so much greater in great sorrows than

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<v Speaker 1>in small troubles, or whether the nobleness was only greater,

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<v Speaker 1>the pain not sharper, but more lingering. Half way towards

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<v Speaker 1>the camp, the king's people met her, and over trampled

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<v Speaker 1>ground where they had fought so fiercely, but a little

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<v Speaker 1>time before, they spread breadth of golden cloth that her

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<v Speaker 1>feet might not touch the arms of her dead countrymen

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<v Speaker 1>or their brave bodies. And so they came at last,

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<v Speaker 1>with many trumpet blasts, to the king's tent, who stood

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<v Speaker 1>at the door of it to welcome his bride that

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<v Speaker 1>was to be a noble man truly to look on

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<v Speaker 1>kindly and genialized. The red blood sprang up all over

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<v Speaker 1>his face when she came near, and she looked back

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<v Speaker 1>no more, but bowed before him, almost to the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>and would have knelt, but that he caught her in

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<v Speaker 1>his arms and kissed her. She was pale now no more,

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<v Speaker 1>and the king, as he gazed delightedly at her, did

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<v Speaker 1>not notice that sorrow mark, which was plain enough to

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<v Speaker 1>her own people. And so the trumpet sounded again, one

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<v Speaker 1>long peal that seemed to make all the air real

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<v Speaker 1>and quiver, and the soldiers and Lord shouted Hurrah for

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<v Speaker 1>the peace Queen Cecela. And that's where we're gonna leave

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<v Speaker 1>this story for this week. Cecilla has now sacrificed herself

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<v Speaker 1>and left her family to go marry the king. What's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen? Well, I'm not gonna tell you. You can either

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<v Speaker 1>look it up, I suppose, or you can wait a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe it's the future and you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>wait a week and you just binge listen to podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>like a normal person. Anyway, I'll talk to you all

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<v Speaker 1>next week. Oh, I'm Margaret Kiljoy. I have a book out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on tour right now, Okay, well, right now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at home because I drove home to see my dog

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<v Speaker 1>because my dog could only come on the first couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>come on the first leg of the tour. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be with me on the rest of the tour.

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<v Speaker 1>But I went to all this that my dog wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be really excited about on the first couple of days,

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<v Speaker 1>and so now I'm reunited. I know that's what you

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<v Speaker 1>all are most concerned about, But don't worry. I'm back

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<v Speaker 1>home with Rentroll. But I am on tour. I am

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<v Speaker 1>touring with a book called The Sapling Cage, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a bunch of folklore said in the same world

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<v Speaker 1>as that book, and so I'm reading. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to come hear me read stories, and notice that I

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<v Speaker 1>clearly read fables and old stories a lot. You can

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<v Speaker 1>come hear me. Do it. I will be traveling all

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<v Speaker 1>over the United States. If I don't come to your city,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because I personally have a problem with you, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is the reason I did not come. But I

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<v Speaker 1>will be. Let's see, I was in Baltimore yesterday at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. You listen to this, If you listen to it,

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<v Speaker 1>on time. I will be in Brooklyn today if you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this, and then I'll be in Boston the

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<v Speaker 1>weekend after followed by Portland, Maine, followed by Rockland, Maine,

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<v Speaker 1>and then after that, I'm going to go on a

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<v Speaker 1>huge ass tour. I'm going to go up to Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>and Cleveland and maybe Buffalo. I'm not sure. Don't hold

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<v Speaker 1>me to that. I just started talking to someone about

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<v Speaker 1>that today. And I'm going to go ann Harbor and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go to Madison, Wisconsin. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Minneapolis. I'm going to go to Lincoln, Nebraska.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go to Fort Collins, Colorado. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Fruit of Colorado. I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Salt Lake City. I might go somewhere between Salt

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<v Speaker 1>Lake City and Quilseleine, Washington, but who's to know. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in quose to Washington. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in Portland, Oregon, where I'll be speaking with friend

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<v Speaker 1>of the pod, Robert Evans, friend of the pod. He's

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<v Speaker 1>on the pods. I think his name is in the

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<v Speaker 1>official title of the pod. November first, I'll be at

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<v Speaker 1>Powell's Books with Robert Evans and also be at other

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<v Speaker 1>places because then I have to get back home. But

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't booked that part of the tour yet, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're just going to have to listen to the future

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<v Speaker 1>or look at my substack where I'll be talking more

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<v Speaker 1>about being on tour and you should come. If I

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<v Speaker 1>talk fast enough then it sounds exciting. That's my theory.

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