WEBVTT - Method Man Talks Hip Hop Authenticity, Greatest Rap Crew Of All Time + More 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:06.480 No, he didn't and never had an original idea and 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:07.880 his fucking like non playing. 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:12.640 Let's let's go here we go morning, everybody. It's dj en. 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:14.960 V Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. We 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:17.439 got a legend and icon in the building. I gotta 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:21.360 spell it out. M ME T H O D. 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.720 They staying in interviews, it's all you know what I'm saying. 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:27.000 When did they be hearing interviews? 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:32.280 Charla? 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:34.760 We were having a conversation before you walked in, Yes, sir, 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:36.680 we were talking about, you know, our annuals and going 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:38.640 to the doctor and this, that and the other. So 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:40.800 I was telling you know, we were talking about colonoscopy, 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:43.960 and the ladies in the room was like, yeah, they 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:45.600 put you out, And I'm like, it was one of 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:46.520 the best sleeps ever. 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:48.920 Right, it's the same stuff they get Michael Jackson. They 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:50.440 tell you that before they do it. That's exactly what 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:51.839 they said. I didn't want to say their name is 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:53.320 chut To Trade. 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:56.480 But that said they put you to sleep. They never 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:57.200 put me to sleep. 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:00.320 Impossible, right, because I did not know what the subject. 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:02.960 He never got a colonoscopy, He got a prostate exam. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.000 You got you got ja, Yeah, I don't think I've 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:05.920 had a prostetate exam. 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:07.160 You have a prostet exam. 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:08.880 I had to coolons. You have. 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:13.399 Look black man, we're most acceptable to prostate cancer soon. 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:15.800 I mean I got mines checked first the first time. 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:17.800 At forty four. You supposed the way to your fifty 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:18.639 forty five fifty. 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:22.240 No, it's forty five to get kolonoscopy. Kolonoscopy. 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:23.479 No, it was fifty or fifty. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:24.800 They just changed it for forty five. 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.080 You got to get kolonoscopy. That's what They sicked the 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.120 tube up your butt, all right, and they look around 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:30.160 for any polyps. 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.920 So for the uninformed, it's basically to make sure you 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:36.240 don't have cancer's tumor. 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.160 That's right side, because if. 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:39.800 They catch it early, it can save you. 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:41.440 You know, you don't have to go for another ten years, 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.280 so they know that you're free of cancer for ten years. 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.759 To say if you don't, what are the symptoms of. 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:49.280 You might not have a symptom. 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:50.240 But yeah, I mean the. 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.480 People that I've known that have lost their lives to it, 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:54.880 rest in peace. My man combat Jack. He by the 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:58.240 time he went, he stayed four. But he did say 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:00.200 he thought that his stomach was getting bigger, but said 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:01.760 he thought it was because he was drinking and he 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:02.680 wasn't eating bloated. 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:04.880 It could be blood in your stool, could be a 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.400 bunch of different things. Sorry to talk about it today, 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:08.560 but we got to make sure you go to. 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:10.919 That absolutely, absolutely absolutely, But you ca get blood and 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.359 you're stool from straining too hard, right, correct. 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:15.200 I never got blood in my still to. 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.880 Be I haven't personally, I don't know, but I can't 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.960 believe we having a conversation with meth about health when 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.080 he is absolutely positively probably. 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:25.799 Personally in hip hop. 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:30.000 Now I'm informed about getting a colonoscopy, I have to Oh, 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:31.359 I'm not going to look into it. I have to 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.960 get it done absolutely all right, Well that's something I 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:34.480 have to do. 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.280 Once you get so heavy in the workout games. I've 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:37.920 been watching you for years on Instagram, but like, what 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:38.600 made you do it? 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:43.320 It? When it's been about ten eleven years now, ten thirteen, 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.360 one hundred years now, I don't know. It was more 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.160 or less. It started with insomnia for me, and I 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.679 had a membership, but I've never really used it. I 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.640 would go sporadically here and there on and off like 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:55.919 a lot of people do. But something just clicked to 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.080 me and said, you know what, let's go go see 0:02:58.080 --> 0:02:59.480 what's up with the gym. It was about four in 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.600 the morning. I was having all this insomnia and it 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.160 was open, so I started going. I had already had 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.600 like my own program that I was following that my 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:12.200 training had gave me previously. So you know, one three 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.360 days started turning into four days, and four days turned 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:19.000 into a month, and months turned into you know, years, 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:22.720 and my journey's been pretty good. Man. I had some 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:24.960 good people around me helping me along the way as well. 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:26.639 The fact that it's four in the morning, you don't 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:28.120 have to worry about people in the gin bothering you 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.240 yet kind of quiet and alone. 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:31.840 And you know, it was a little community in there, 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:35.120 about five or six people that showed up every morning, 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.800 and they kind of welcomed me with open arms after 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.120 they so I was about the first month you got 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:41.880 at least show for it, like the first month then 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:43.920 they're like, okay, this got serious, and you know, I 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:47.760 was getting tips and things, and matter of fact, later 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.360 on when I found a workout partner, which is great 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.800 for anybody should always find a workout partner. They keep 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:58.200 you honest and you keep them honus as well. From there, 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.000 that's when the journey really happened. Because up to that 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:07.080 point I wasn't even like following a strict diet regiment 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.640 or anything of that sort, you know, because I was 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:13.200 that that uninformed. But over the years, having to work 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.920 out partner and being around these people that were dedicated 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.440 to it, picking up tips and things of that nature. Yeah, 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:19.840 definitely turned me into a gym rap. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:21.320 Did you slow down smoking at all? 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:21.640 No? 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.080 I wondered whether that because you were always the old 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.679 g weed guy and you know, like you snoop bread. 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.599 Yeah. I mean, I mean that's a that's a nice 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.560 little lane to be in and stuff. But I always 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.400 said I had so much more to offer and I 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:41.480 would hate to be just identified as just the weak guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:43.520 And I mean I think I've done a pretty decent 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:44.200 job of that. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.159 No, that's understand absolutely. 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:50.360 It's interesting because they got the BT's greatest rap crews 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.720 of right right. 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:54.640 Wu Tanger's death ro. 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.520 I'm not disrespecting Death Row and everything that they represented. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:04:59.919 I just don't know how it. 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:01.240 Can came down to Woo and death Row. 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:07.520 To me, for me, it's the greatest. But Defro was 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.799 not a rap group to me. They're not around the label. 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:12.680 And I think that's what they judged a lot of 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.240 it based on as well. I mean, you got to 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:19.360 really think about it. Those are groups, you know, death Row, 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.400 but it was groups within groups, especially with a Wu 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.359 Tang clan, especially with the way we came in the 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.279 game as a group with the option to sign as 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.680 solo artists. So yeah, it kind of makes sense. And 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:33.120 I'm just humbled and honored in the same breath because 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.000 you know, death Row, they were what three years before 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.440 we even dropped, about three years before we even dropped, 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.400 and we had heard nothing like that before from the 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.200 West Coast. I mean, I was a big n W 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.440 A fan, you know. But other than that, everything else 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.640 kind of slipped through the cracks. Even mc hammler, you know, 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.000 for a minute, he even slipped through the crash because 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:50.880 we didn't really gravitate to Hammer like that. He even 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:51.240 knew it. 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:51.440 You know. 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:52.920 It was more or less like you ain't hitting in him, 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.040 and you ain't hitting in New York. I'm gonna turn 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:56.680 his mother out, And he turned his mother out. He 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.440 did exactly that. But I mean to be up against 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:04.599 those guys, it's honor because, like I said, they put 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.560 it down like who I had never heard anything like 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:11.240 snoop or corrupt Dad's rage, any of them. You know 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.760 that what was it? Stranded on Death Row was the record. 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:16.360 That was the first thing that I heard from them, 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:16.960 and I was like. 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.360 From a Wow, you guys are. 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:23.200 Hold on. 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.120 I was going to tell people they already defeated, you know, 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.719 because we were talking about crews. They defeated Good Music, 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:32.120 Rough Riders, the Juice Crew, G Unit, and Death Row 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:33.920 has defeated Y M C, M, B T, d E 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:34.880 and n w A. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.000 Now that the last battle is. 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:45.440 Absolutely battle is verseus Death Row, and the voting can 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:46.200 start right now. 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:47.680 So how can you vote? Let me ask the people 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:48.839 on in the back, how can they vote? 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:54.120 Dot com that's Kim Sorry's voice, b E T dot 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.480 com slash vote if you want to vote, and today 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:57.080 is the deadline? 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:01.719 Correct? Yeah, today it's the deadline. Slash go vote, slash 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.200 go vote, bt dot Com slash go vote. I mean 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.520 vote Wu Tang, vote death Rod. Vote with your heart, 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:08.000 you know what I mean? Like I said, it's just 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.640 happy to be in the same space. With that greatness 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:11.040 right there. 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.560 Come on, man, y'all o tang man. 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:15.600 I get it, I get it. But you know, like 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:19.880 I said, humility is always gonna be my go to 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:24.040 in situations like this. You never want to make things 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.040 bigger than what they actually are. You let other people 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:26.760 do that for you. 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.280 How did you develop that relationship because you had that 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.120 relationship with them because you was on a mind made 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:31.920 up with Pop. 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.880 Yeah, that was weird because it was because I had 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:37.760 a relationship with Snoop and dog Pound. I mean I 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.920 had Snoop in my in my fore runner uptown. Wow. 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:42.840 You know what I mean. We went to the gate, 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.200 and I swear on anything I love each time I 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:46.960 ever went there to drag, would I put my money 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.000 through the slot and give me the weed it, I 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:54.000 bring Snoop. He opened the door. I'm serious as snook 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.640 and vows for this. Let us in. Yeah, babies running 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:58.680 around it. I've never been in this gate before, Like, 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.160 oh shit, so this is what it's like. 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:01.600 What year was this this Doggy Star? 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:07.440 Yeah? Yeah, Donkey style Snoop another Wow, And the Snoop 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.360 was in the hood in Harlem. Yeah, no, security. Dog 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.120 Pound was with us too. 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:13.640 Beef though what it's so called? 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.280 Yeah, yeah, well it wasn't really no, we know those 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.560 are informed. No it wasn't. But the funny shit wasn't 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.480 we get back in the car corrupt look at this ship? 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:25.520 Was like, yo, good, this ship got ship, got sticks 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:26.200 to seeds. 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.800 You knowing about that choco. They ain't knowing about that chocolate. 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:33.160 This ship. 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.079 It probably was the whack weed down that I think 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.360 about it, this ship man, you know, shout out to 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.000 Benny Rat, b Rat, he don't want to put me 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:43.120 onto that spot, remember Benny? Yes, I know, I know. 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:44.480 So how did the record come about? 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.720 Like, well, hanging out with the you know, each time 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.360 they came to the East Coast, I'd hang out with them. 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.120 When I came to the West coast, vice versa, and 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.959 you know, Das came and scooped us up. We went 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.280 to dash crib smoking. He has some records. He's just 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.920 playing some ship and we just spin on it. And 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:05.560 the original song had myself rage, Dad's corrupt of course 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:06.559 red man. 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.719 Yeah, I think that verse just got released, but I 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:13.160 don't know if it's a yeah, I can't tell. 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.680 Yeah, it's real. Wow, from the story that I heard 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.360 through the interviews, Park was like, the record too long, anyway, 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.400 take that ship off. There, no disrespect to debt, but 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.920 it was more or less like he's thinking, I got 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.319 red at bedfit bed or this record that, let's chop 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:31.200 it right there. The shit too long? Took rage off 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:35.800 the record. But I'd never actually recorded with Park the 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:37.880 same way I did with Big. When I recorded with Big, 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:39.920 Tracy Waples in the background, she came and scooped me. 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.240 Tracy came and scooped me, And I wasn't supposed to 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:43.599 be doing the record, so I kind of snuck it 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:44.160 went and did it. 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:45.160 Why was he supposed to do it? 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:45.960 Because well, you. 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:47.640 Know, none of No, it's more or less because Wu 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:51.640 tang Rizza. The plan was, if we get hot, we 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.680 keep the money in the family first, then we'll build 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.000 what everybody else wants to wear, right, you know what 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:58.360 I mean? And you got like your hardest artists in 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.920 your group at that point in time, going to do 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.560 all the records. You know, I did it twice too, 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.160 by the way I did the the what with Big 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.200 end then I went snuck and dead how high with 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:12.000 Redman sore. I'm just saying, I'm just saying you know. 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.440 Way so to break it down. So so Tracy picked 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:14.679 you up. 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.679 Tracy picked me up to take me to the studio 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.559 to do the What with Biggie Smalls that day, and 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.320 me and Puffy played Torchu. I remember that, right, Yeah, 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.520 we definitely played Torch. I got his ass good too. 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:25.440 I think I did that. 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:26.480 What was puff torture? 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:26.600 What? 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:28.960 I can't even remember. He was just saying, I don't 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.720 know it was I don't know. It was a lot 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:35.080 of I don't know. I can't remember actual game. That 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:36.920 wasn't just a he just it was just a skit 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.440 on the album. But we used to play that, you know. 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:40.640 We used to do it around the way and she 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:42.320 instead of snapping on each other, we used to play 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.400 Torch and ship. And I guess Puff heard the skit 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.800 and he wanted to play torture. So he got tortured 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:47.679 in that motherfucker. 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:50.280 During that time, Big was there. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.679 He was there and he wrote his wrong Contrary to 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.440 what people say, he didn't need pen of paper. He 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.319 wrote his rhyme there, and I wrote my rhyme there. 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:58.920 Oh he so he had a pin in the path. 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.760 Yes, yes he did, absolutely. 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.160 Are those first? Are those the first? Draft verses like 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:05.679 did y'all go back and change them? 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.080 I wasn't going back and changed it, like it wasn't 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:11.120 even I mean we're talking analog. So it was like 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:12.720 when you went there and spit if you fucked up, 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.840 you had to start over and start from the top 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.840 and spit it again and right wrong, right, he don't know. 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:24.760 Damn you ask one of the youngest people that, damn. 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.400 So's I got a question about that then, because Biggie 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.760 is his verse, don't tip me and then you go thho. 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.480 He wanted me to have some type of he said, 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.400 don't don't mess. It actually was m E. Yeah, he 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.800 said that means don't He wanted me to come in 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.360 right after that with th h O d man right 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.720 behind m E. But it didn't fall into the pocket 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.720 because I was I had already written my verse, like 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.040 I'm writing my ship, like I'm already four balls in. 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:50.920 But you want me to start it with some other ship. 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:55.360 It's like, okay, I'll try. But it overlapped. They wanted 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.280 to wrap it over each other, wrapping over each other. 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:57.960 But it still works. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.160 You ask me, oh, so. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:05.200 His lyrics going to be m instead of saying me, oh, man, 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:07.480 I always like when I talk to y'all, it's like 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:08.760 unbelievablecause I don't even know y'all. 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:09.880 Shod is like Greek mythology. 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:10.440 Bro Like to. 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.959 Us on the outside looking in, it's like that's it 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:21.560 don't even seem real, y'all, like real superhero Damn yes, wow, 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:22.120 because we. 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.600 Don't never hear these stories. Fact they had two greats 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.760 and how they broke it down and how they that. 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:29.720 All the time, Like when I'm talking to people from 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:31.600 that era, it's like, yo, that is that. 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.240 It's literally like reading Greek mythology. 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.160 It's a lot of well, of course, because I'm not 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.120 I'm not going to say, let's say hip hop was 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:44.319 in its early twenties at that point, stay still young, 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:46.400 you know what I'm saying. But it's like the fuck 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.320 a lot. You know what I'm saying. It's like, I'm 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.920 out in these streets twenty years old. I'm finding out 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:53.840 what life is about. So it was a lot of 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.440 more authentic, a lot more authenticity. When you heard records 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.720 from the West Coast, you know it's from the West Coast, 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.600 right that that sound. When we heard UGK, we knew 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.240 that was down south. You know, it was a difference, 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.840 not taking anything away from the music nowadays, because whatever 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.240 works works, and I like some of this shit they 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.200 be doing now, some of that turn up shit. But 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.000 back then, we had identities and everybody was fighting for 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.640 their own identity, whereas it seems like now everyone's fighting 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.400 for the same identity. 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:23.800 Yeah, you know, you think that hurts music, especially with 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:25.920 this being our fiftieth anniversary because it's New York. 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:27.280 Doesn't have a sound Now. 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.920 No, that's gonna spark the mind that changes everything, you 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.080 know what I mean that that goes against the grain 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.240 because I mean when Wute came out, where were we 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.240 at in hip hop? If you really think about it, 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.880 it wasn't shiny suits, but we were in suits. And 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:40.720 a lot of that had a lot of that attributed 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.960 to wanting to see at the table where the R 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:45.640 and B singers in the R and B section, where 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:47.800 the R and B singers were to basically put hip 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.040 hop on radar on the radar and ship plus it 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:51.920 was hot. R and B mixed with hip hop was hot. 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.560 I mean, Puffy's been using that for years. He took 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.600 Mary J. Blogers said, well, maybe, Andre, but I wasn't 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.240 in the office whatever. But they took Mary J. Bliging said, 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.320 you know what, I hear these kicking pre mixed tapes 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:07.000 and Ship and they're doing fucking R and B songs, 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.680 but he's mixing hip hop beats up underneath it. Let's 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:14.640 do that may blows up. Okay, we got Biggie. Let's 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.640 flip it the other way. We're gonna take the R 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:21.360 and B tracks and let him rhyme on those formula 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.720 works either way it ship would do. But are we 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.400 to say fuck that hip because we were like that 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:30.000 R and B ship but it worked. If it wasn't 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.160 for that R and B ship, it wouldn't be all 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:36.640 I need. There wouldn't be one more chance and ship 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.520 like that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Big Popper, 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.760 even montell Jordans, fucking uh. This is how we do it, 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:44.600 which is a direct by the slick Rick. If you 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:50.480 ask me, come on right. Children's story bottom line line, 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:55.440 biting and sampling, it's not biting. I mean we ship. 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.040 Then Bismarck he was biting all the old people with 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:00.040 all the samples he had on his ship. I I 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.480 think it's homage in more in more ways than one, 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.320 because a lot of these records. We grew up listening 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.600 to his children, so they resonate with us as well 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:08.760 as the audience that we came up with. So it 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.960 makes sense at the end of the day. I don't 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:12.960 think it's biting at all. But if you're directly saying, 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.000 you know, coming straight out saying people rhymes, you know, 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.520 and claiming them as your own, I think something recently 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.440 happened like that. A record that was done by Ludacris 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:27.680 and somebody else. No disrespect, okay, no disrespect to her, 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.600 but she's saying I believe she said she never even heard. 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:35.040 That's fair that that is totally fair. But when you 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.600 get into the content of the record, it sounds like. 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:39.400 Luda's area codes similar. 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:44.080 Yeah, yeah, but there's similarities in there. But I mean, 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.320 if you never heard the record, by I mean, somebody 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:48.000 heard that record. 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.800 Somebody did you know? All I need was gonna turn 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.080 into the big wedding song it was. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.720 I was scared of it. That was my first That's 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:59.480 what I danced to. It't nice. I didn't even want 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.080 to put the record up. Uh why because I knew 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:07.520 what it would do. He be successful. Not in that sense. 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.280 I just didn't want to be putting that R and B. Like, 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.200 remember we had a problem with that. We had a 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.520 real problem with that. And you never liked the sex symbo. 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.320 But that that's that's something else that that that that 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.360 comes with Like that's when people don't see the substance within, 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.760 they only see the flesh. And I have a big problem. 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.000 I get it. I can I can understand that. I 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:26.400 can understand that it's for real, for. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.280 Real, But it was a hood love song. 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:30.040 It wasn't like a Polish I mean, you went and 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:31.960 you got your woman's paying tampons. 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:33.960 Absolutely, but you can paint it any way you want 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:35.960 to paint it. It's still I need love, but for 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.640 another generation, you know what I mean, painting it any 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:39.880 and any like you want to paint it. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:41.840 So how did they finally get you to put it out? 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.360 I think it gave me fifty K. I don't know. 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:46.640 I think it was like twenty five to fifty K. 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:48.240 I was supposed to buy a car, Yeah, fifty k. 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:49.400 I was supposed to by a call with it, but 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:51.080