1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: No, he didn't and never had an original idea and 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: his fucking like non playing. 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 2: Let's let's go here we go morning, everybody. It's dj en. 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 3: V Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. We 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 3: got a legend and icon in the building. I gotta 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 3: spell it out. M ME T H O D. 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 4: They staying in interviews, it's all you know what I'm saying. 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 4: When did they be hearing interviews? 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: Charla? 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 3: We were having a conversation before you walked in, Yes, sir, 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: we were talking about, you know, our annuals and going 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 3: to the doctor and this, that and the other. So 13 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: I was telling you know, we were talking about colonoscopy, 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: and the ladies in the room was like, yeah, they 15 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 3: put you out, And I'm like, it was one of 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 3: the best sleeps ever. 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 4: Right, it's the same stuff they get Michael Jackson. They 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 4: tell you that before they do it. That's exactly what 19 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 4: they said. I didn't want to say their name is 20 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 4: chut To Trade. 21 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: But that said they put you to sleep. They never 22 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: put me to sleep. 23 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: Impossible, right, because I did not know what the subject. 24 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: He never got a colonoscopy, He got a prostate exam. 25 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 5: You got you got ja, Yeah, I don't think I've 26 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 5: had a prostetate exam. 27 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: You have a prostet exam. 28 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 5: I had to coolons. You have. 29 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: Look black man, we're most acceptable to prostate cancer soon. 30 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: I mean I got mines checked first the first time. 31 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: At forty four. You supposed the way to your fifty 32 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:18,639 Speaker 1: forty five fifty. 33 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: No, it's forty five to get kolonoscopy. Kolonoscopy. 34 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: No, it was fifty or fifty. 35 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 5: They just changed it for forty five. 36 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: You got to get kolonoscopy. That's what They sicked the 37 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: tube up your butt, all right, and they look around 38 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: for any polyps. 39 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: So for the uninformed, it's basically to make sure you 40 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: don't have cancer's tumor. 41 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 5: That's right side, because if. 42 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: They catch it early, it can save you. 43 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: You know, you don't have to go for another ten years, 44 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: so they know that you're free of cancer for ten years. 45 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: To say if you don't, what are the symptoms of. 46 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: You might not have a symptom. 47 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean the. 48 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 4: People that I've known that have lost their lives to it, 49 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 4: rest in peace. My man combat Jack. He by the 50 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 4: time he went, he stayed four. But he did say 51 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 4: he thought that his stomach was getting bigger, but said 52 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 4: he thought it was because he was drinking and he 53 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: wasn't eating bloated. 54 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: It could be blood in your stool, could be a 55 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: bunch of different things. Sorry to talk about it today, 56 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: but we got to make sure you go to. 57 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: That absolutely, absolutely absolutely, But you ca get blood and 58 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: you're stool from straining too hard, right, correct. 59 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: I never got blood in my still to. 60 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: Be I haven't personally, I don't know, but I can't 61 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 4: believe we having a conversation with meth about health when 62 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 4: he is absolutely positively probably. 63 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 5: Personally in hip hop. 64 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: Now I'm informed about getting a colonoscopy, I have to Oh, 65 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: I'm not going to look into it. I have to 66 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: get it done absolutely all right, Well that's something I 67 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: have to do. 68 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 4: Once you get so heavy in the workout games. I've 69 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 4: been watching you for years on Instagram, but like, what 70 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 4: made you do it? 71 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: It? When it's been about ten eleven years now, ten thirteen, 72 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: one hundred years now, I don't know. It was more 73 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: or less. It started with insomnia for me, and I 74 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: had a membership, but I've never really used it. I 75 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: would go sporadically here and there on and off like 76 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: a lot of people do. But something just clicked to 77 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: me and said, you know what, let's go go see 78 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: what's up with the gym. It was about four in 79 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: the morning. I was having all this insomnia and it 80 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: was open, so I started going. I had already had 81 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: like my own program that I was following that my 82 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: training had gave me previously. So you know, one three 83 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: days started turning into four days, and four days turned 84 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: into a month, and months turned into you know, years, 85 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: and my journey's been pretty good. Man. I had some 86 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: good people around me helping me along the way as well. 87 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 3: The fact that it's four in the morning, you don't 88 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: have to worry about people in the gin bothering you 89 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 3: yet kind of quiet and alone. 90 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: And you know, it was a little community in there, 91 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: about five or six people that showed up every morning, 92 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: and they kind of welcomed me with open arms after 93 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: they so I was about the first month you got 94 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: at least show for it, like the first month then 95 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: they're like, okay, this got serious, and you know, I 96 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: was getting tips and things, and matter of fact, later 97 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: on when I found a workout partner, which is great 98 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: for anybody should always find a workout partner. They keep 99 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: you honest and you keep them honus as well. From there, 100 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: that's when the journey really happened. Because up to that 101 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: point I wasn't even like following a strict diet regiment 102 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: or anything of that sort, you know, because I was 103 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: that that uninformed. But over the years, having to work 104 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: out partner and being around these people that were dedicated 105 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: to it, picking up tips and things of that nature. Yeah, 106 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: definitely turned me into a gym rap. 107 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: Did you slow down smoking at all? 108 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: No? 109 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: I wondered whether that because you were always the old 110 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 4: g weed guy and you know, like you snoop bread. 111 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I mean that's a that's a nice 112 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: little lane to be in and stuff. But I always 113 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: said I had so much more to offer and I 114 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: would hate to be just identified as just the weak guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 115 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: And I mean I think I've done a pretty decent 116 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: job of that. 117 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 5: No, that's understand absolutely. 118 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 4: It's interesting because they got the BT's greatest rap crews 119 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 4: of right right. 120 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: Wu Tanger's death ro. 121 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 5: I'm not disrespecting Death Row and everything that they represented. 122 00:04:59,160 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: I just don't know how it. 123 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 5: Can came down to Woo and death Row. 124 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: To me, for me, it's the greatest. But Defro was 125 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 2: not a rap group to me. They're not around the label. 126 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: And I think that's what they judged a lot of 127 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: it based on as well. I mean, you got to 128 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: really think about it. Those are groups, you know, death Row, 129 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: but it was groups within groups, especially with a Wu 130 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: Tang clan, especially with the way we came in the 131 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: game as a group with the option to sign as 132 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: solo artists. So yeah, it kind of makes sense. And 133 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm just humbled and honored in the same breath because 134 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, death Row, they were what three years before 135 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: we even dropped, about three years before we even dropped, 136 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: and we had heard nothing like that before from the 137 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: West Coast. I mean, I was a big n W 138 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: A fan, you know. But other than that, everything else 139 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: kind of slipped through the cracks. Even mc hammler, you know, 140 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: for a minute, he even slipped through the crash because 141 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: we didn't really gravitate to Hammer like that. He even 142 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: knew it. 143 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: You know. 144 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: It was more or less like you ain't hitting in him, 145 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: and you ain't hitting in New York. I'm gonna turn 146 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: his mother out, And he turned his mother out. He 147 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: did exactly that. But I mean to be up against 148 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: those guys, it's honor because, like I said, they put 149 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: it down like who I had never heard anything like 150 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: snoop or corrupt Dad's rage, any of them. You know 151 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: that what was it? Stranded on Death Row was the record. 152 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: That was the first thing that I heard from them, 153 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: and I was like. 154 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: From a Wow, you guys are. 155 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: Hold on. 156 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: I was going to tell people they already defeated, you know, 157 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: because we were talking about crews. They defeated Good Music, 158 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: Rough Riders, the Juice Crew, G Unit, and Death Row 159 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: has defeated Y M C, M, B T, d E 160 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: and n w A. 161 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: Now that the last battle is. 162 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely battle is verseus Death Row, and the voting can 163 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: start right now. 164 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: So how can you vote? Let me ask the people 165 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: on in the back, how can they vote? 166 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: Dot com that's Kim Sorry's voice, b E T dot 167 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: com slash vote if you want to vote, and today 168 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: is the deadline? 169 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: Correct? Yeah, today it's the deadline. Slash go vote, slash 170 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: go vote, bt dot Com slash go vote. I mean 171 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: vote Wu Tang, vote death Rod. Vote with your heart, 172 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I said, it's just 173 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: happy to be in the same space. With that greatness 174 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: right there. 175 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 5: Come on, man, y'all o tang man. 176 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. But you know, like 177 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: I said, humility is always gonna be my go to 178 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: in situations like this. You never want to make things 179 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: bigger than what they actually are. You let other people 180 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: do that for you. 181 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 4: How did you develop that relationship because you had that 182 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: relationship with them because you was on a mind made 183 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 4: up with Pop. 184 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was weird because it was because I had 185 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: a relationship with Snoop and dog Pound. I mean I 186 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: had Snoop in my in my fore runner uptown. Wow. 187 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. We went to the gate, 188 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: and I swear on anything I love each time I 189 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: ever went there to drag, would I put my money 190 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: through the slot and give me the weed it, I 191 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: bring Snoop. He opened the door. I'm serious as snook 192 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: and vows for this. Let us in. Yeah, babies running 193 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: around it. I've never been in this gate before, Like, 194 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: oh shit, so this is what it's like. 195 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 5: What year was this this Doggy Star? 196 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Donkey style Snoop another Wow, And the Snoop 197 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: was in the hood in Harlem. Yeah, no, security. Dog 198 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: Pound was with us too. 199 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 5: Beef though what it's so called? 200 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well it wasn't really no, we know those 201 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: are informed. No it wasn't. But the funny shit wasn't 202 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: we get back in the car corrupt look at this ship? 203 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 6: Was like, yo, good, this ship got ship, got sticks 204 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 6: to seeds. 205 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: You knowing about that choco. They ain't knowing about that chocolate. 206 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: This ship. 207 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: It probably was the whack weed down that I think 208 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: about it, this ship man, you know, shout out to 209 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Benny Rat, b Rat, he don't want to put me 210 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: onto that spot, remember Benny? Yes, I know, I know. 211 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 5: So how did the record come about? 212 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: Like, well, hanging out with the you know, each time 213 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: they came to the East Coast, I'd hang out with them. 214 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: When I came to the West coast, vice versa, and 215 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: you know, Das came and scooped us up. We went 216 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: to dash crib smoking. He has some records. He's just 217 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: playing some ship and we just spin on it. And 218 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: the original song had myself rage, Dad's corrupt of course 219 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: red man. 220 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that verse just got released, but I 221 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 4: don't know if it's a yeah, I can't tell. 222 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's real. Wow, from the story that I heard 223 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: through the interviews, Park was like, the record too long, anyway, 224 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: take that ship off. There, no disrespect to debt, but 225 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: it was more or less like he's thinking, I got 226 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: red at bedfit bed or this record that, let's chop 227 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: it right there. The shit too long? Took rage off 228 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: the record. But I'd never actually recorded with Park the 229 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: same way I did with Big. When I recorded with Big, 230 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: Tracy Waples in the background, she came and scooped me. 231 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: Tracy came and scooped me, And I wasn't supposed to 232 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 1: be doing the record, so I kind of snuck it 233 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: went and did it. 234 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: Why was he supposed to do it? 235 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 5: Because well, you. 236 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: Know, none of No, it's more or less because Wu 237 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: tang Rizza. The plan was, if we get hot, we 238 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: keep the money in the family first, then we'll build 239 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: what everybody else wants to wear, right, you know what 240 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: I mean? And you got like your hardest artists in 241 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: your group at that point in time, going to do 242 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: all the records. You know, I did it twice too, 243 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: by the way I did the the what with Big 244 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: end then I went snuck and dead how high with 245 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: Redman sore. I'm just saying, I'm just saying you know. 246 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: Way so to break it down. So so Tracy picked 247 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 2: you up. 248 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: Tracy picked me up to take me to the studio 249 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: to do the What with Biggie Smalls that day, and 250 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: me and Puffy played Torchu. I remember that, right, Yeah, 251 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: we definitely played Torch. I got his ass good too. 252 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: I think I did that. 253 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 5: What was puff torture? 254 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: What? 255 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: I can't even remember. He was just saying, I don't 256 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: know it was I don't know. It was a lot 257 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: of I don't know. I can't remember actual game. That 258 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: wasn't just a he just it was just a skit 259 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: on the album. But we used to play that, you know. 260 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: We used to do it around the way and she 261 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: instead of snapping on each other, we used to play 262 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: Torch and ship. And I guess Puff heard the skit 263 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: and he wanted to play torture. So he got tortured 264 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: in that motherfucker. 265 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: During that time, Big was there. 266 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: He was there and he wrote his wrong Contrary to 267 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: what people say, he didn't need pen of paper. He 268 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: wrote his rhyme there, and I wrote my rhyme there. 269 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 5: Oh he so he had a pin in the path. 270 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: Yes, yes he did, absolutely. 271 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: Are those first? Are those the first? Draft verses like 272 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 4: did y'all go back and change them? 273 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't going back and changed it, like it wasn't 274 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: even I mean we're talking analog. So it was like 275 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: when you went there and spit if you fucked up, 276 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: you had to start over and start from the top 277 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: and spit it again and right wrong, right, he don't know. 278 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: Damn you ask one of the youngest people that, damn. 279 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: So's I got a question about that then, because Biggie 280 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 4: is his verse, don't tip me and then you go thho. 281 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: He wanted me to have some type of he said, 282 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: don't don't mess. It actually was m E. Yeah, he 283 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: said that means don't He wanted me to come in 284 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: right after that with th h O d man right 285 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: behind m E. But it didn't fall into the pocket 286 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: because I was I had already written my verse, like 287 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm writing my ship, like I'm already four balls in. 288 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: But you want me to start it with some other ship. 289 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I'll try. But it overlapped. They wanted 290 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: to wrap it over each other, wrapping over each other. 291 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: But it still works. 292 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 5: You ask me, oh, so. 293 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 4: His lyrics going to be m instead of saying me, oh, man, 294 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: I always like when I talk to y'all, it's like 295 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: unbelievablecause I don't even know y'all. 296 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 5: Shod is like Greek mythology. 297 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: Bro Like to. 298 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 4: Us on the outside looking in, it's like that's it 299 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 4: don't even seem real, y'all, like real superhero Damn yes, wow, 300 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: because we. 301 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: Don't never hear these stories. Fact they had two greats 302 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: and how they broke it down and how they that. 303 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 4: All the time, Like when I'm talking to people from 304 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: that era, it's like, yo, that is that. 305 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 5: It's literally like reading Greek mythology. 306 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: It's a lot of well, of course, because I'm not 307 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say, let's say hip hop was 308 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: in its early twenties at that point, stay still young, 309 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But it's like the fuck 310 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: a lot. You know what I'm saying. It's like, I'm 311 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: out in these streets twenty years old. I'm finding out 312 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: what life is about. So it was a lot of 313 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: more authentic, a lot more authenticity. When you heard records 314 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: from the West Coast, you know it's from the West Coast, 315 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: right that that sound. When we heard UGK, we knew 316 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: that was down south. You know, it was a difference, 317 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: not taking anything away from the music nowadays, because whatever 318 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: works works, and I like some of this shit they 319 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: be doing now, some of that turn up shit. But 320 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: back then, we had identities and everybody was fighting for 321 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: their own identity, whereas it seems like now everyone's fighting 322 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: for the same identity. 323 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you think that hurts music, especially with 324 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: this being our fiftieth anniversary because it's New York. 325 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: Doesn't have a sound Now. 326 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: No, that's gonna spark the mind that changes everything, you 327 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean that that goes against the grain 328 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: because I mean when Wute came out, where were we 329 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: at in hip hop? If you really think about it, 330 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't shiny suits, but we were in suits. And 331 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: a lot of that had a lot of that attributed 332 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: to wanting to see at the table where the R 333 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: and B singers in the R and B section, where 334 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: the R and B singers were to basically put hip 335 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: hop on radar on the radar and ship plus it 336 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: was hot. R and B mixed with hip hop was hot. 337 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Puffy's been using that for years. He took 338 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: Mary J. Blogers said, well, maybe, Andre, but I wasn't 339 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: in the office whatever. But they took Mary J. Bliging said, 340 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: you know what, I hear these kicking pre mixed tapes 341 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: and Ship and they're doing fucking R and B songs, 342 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: but he's mixing hip hop beats up underneath it. Let's 343 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: do that may blows up. Okay, we got Biggie. Let's 344 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: flip it the other way. We're gonna take the R 345 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: and B tracks and let him rhyme on those formula 346 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: works either way it ship would do. But are we 347 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: to say fuck that hip because we were like that 348 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: R and B ship but it worked. If it wasn't 349 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: for that R and B ship, it wouldn't be all 350 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: I need. There wouldn't be one more chance and ship 351 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: like that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Big Popper, 352 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: even montell Jordans, fucking uh. This is how we do it, 353 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: which is a direct by the slick Rick. If you 354 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: ask me, come on right. Children's story bottom line line, 355 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: biting and sampling, it's not biting. I mean we ship. 356 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: Then Bismarck he was biting all the old people with 357 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: all the samples he had on his ship. I I 358 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: think it's homage in more in more ways than one, 359 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: because a lot of these records. We grew up listening 360 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: to his children, so they resonate with us as well 361 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: as the audience that we came up with. So it 362 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: makes sense at the end of the day. I don't 363 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: think it's biting at all. But if you're directly saying, 364 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, coming straight out saying people rhymes, you know, 365 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: and claiming them as your own, I think something recently 366 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: happened like that. A record that was done by Ludacris 367 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: and somebody else. No disrespect, okay, no disrespect to her, 368 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: but she's saying I believe she said she never even heard. 369 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: That's fair that that is totally fair. But when you 370 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: get into the content of the record, it sounds like. 371 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: Luda's area codes similar. 372 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but there's similarities in there. But I mean, 373 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: if you never heard the record, by I mean, somebody 374 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: heard that record. 375 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 5: Somebody did you know? All I need was gonna turn 376 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 5: into the big wedding song it was. 377 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: I was scared of it. That was my first That's 378 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: what I danced to. It't nice. I didn't even want 379 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: to put the record up. Uh why because I knew 380 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: what it would do. He be successful. Not in that sense. 381 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: I just didn't want to be putting that R and B. Like, 382 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: remember we had a problem with that. We had a 383 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: real problem with that. And you never liked the sex symbo. 384 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: But that that's that's something else that that that that 385 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: comes with Like that's when people don't see the substance within, 386 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: they only see the flesh. And I have a big problem. 387 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: I get it. I can I can understand that. I 388 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: can understand that it's for real, for. 389 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: Real, But it was a hood love song. 390 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: It wasn't like a Polish I mean, you went and 391 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: you got your woman's paying tampons. 392 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, but you can paint it any way you want 393 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: to paint it. It's still I need love, but for 394 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: another generation, you know what I mean, painting it any 395 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: and any like you want to paint it. 396 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: So how did they finally get you to put it out? 397 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: I think it gave me fifty K. I don't know. 398 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: I think it was like twenty five to fifty K. 399 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: I was supposed to buy a car, Yeah, fifty k. 400 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: I was supposed to by a call with it, but 401 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: I didn't. I put up with that ship right in 402 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: the bank. It's crazy to think I saw I think 403 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: he was on math I forgot. 404 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 4: I think it was when you were talking about you 405 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 4: can't believe the money that these are. 406 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: No, it wasn't see they took that out of context 407 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: as well. It was it was more or less me 408 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: trying to delve into the hustle of private jet flying, 409 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: being so frustrated with commercial airlines so much that how 410 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,959 Speaker 1: are they doing this? And and and then me doing that. 411 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: It was misconstrued, misconstrued as me pocket checking or or 412 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, fucking up the scam or whatever the fuck 413 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: they're doing. I don't know, but it was just me 414 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: being curious and it definitely got taken out of contact. 415 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: But there are some artists that you look at and 416 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: you wonder, like they came in rich, nothing like you. 417 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: You wonder and shit, you know what I mean, Not 418 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 1: not to delve too deep in whatever their backgrounds are, 419 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: but it's like those finances come you know what I mean, 420 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: Like came in this pet rich. Yeah. I'm not even 421 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: talking about dudes that had their drug dealing lifestyle and 422 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: they known in the street for that. But somebody I 423 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: got the clear. 424 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 3: Blue private jet one way thirty thousand coming back as 425 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: thirty thous sixty thousand dollars. They you know, they're not 426 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 3: get sixty thousand for a show. 427 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: Well, I kind of somebody kind of broke it down 428 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: to me. Okay, a lot of times the people that 429 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: are on these planes are maybe they're staying in California. 430 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: Plane drops them in California and shit, but it has 431 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: to go back to New York. It has to go 432 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: back to These people are basically taking those planes that 433 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: are owned by these other people. So their flight that 434 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: they have to take back to New York, they're getting 435 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: on that flight, buying a seat basically, Yeah, yeah, which 436 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: is smart as fuck, you know what I mean, pays 437 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: for fuel, all kind of shit. But yeah, yeah, that's 438 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: what it is. It is what it is. 439 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: What was fifty thousand back then? What would that be 440 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 4: the equivalent to now? You think at least twenty five thousand? Okay, 441 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 4: so you put yours in the bank, Yeah, put in 442 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 4: the bank. Like, did somebody put you up on financial 443 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 4: literacy back then? 444 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: No, not at all. And another thing that really grinding 445 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: my gears that I even thought of back then was 446 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: fucking health insurance some type of health plan for because 447 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, SAG takes care of a lot of Yeah, 448 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: big time, big time. They're blessing, but there's nothing in 449 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: place for music artists or even like you know, they 450 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: leave it up to you to have someone to advise 451 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: you on things of that nature. But you young, dumb 452 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 1: and full of you know what I mean, twenty two 453 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: years old, come into a lot of money. First thing 454 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: you thinking is how I'm spend it? Right, you know, 455 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: I mean you're thinking like yo CPAs and things of that, 456 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: but you really you're thinking, how impost I'm spending this. 457 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: It's like a bottomless you ain't even thinking about where 458 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: the next one's coming from because it's coming in so quick. 459 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: There's been times where I've gone on the road two weeks, 460 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: come back home and forget what I do for a living, 461 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: not really forget. I know what I'm doing, but it's 462 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: so much fun. You get lost in it so much 463 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: that you forget. You get paid for it, you know, 464 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: and then you look at your account like, oh shit, whoa, 465 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: there's a lot of o's. Where did that come from? 466 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: Then it hits you. You know, it's a very it's 467 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: a very lucrative business. I get why a lot of 468 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: people want to, you know, just jump into and get 469 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: their feet wet in and then try and hit big 470 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: and it's like a lotto. It's like a lottery, so 471 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: and it's a quick way to long problems. Especially if 472 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: you hit big. It's like your mama good, your family good, 473 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: everybody good, and now y'all living, y'all got generational wealth 474 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: or however long it lasts. You know, in that same breath, though, 475 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: we're not paying attention to our own mental health, our 476 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: own physical health, as well as financial gains or financial 477 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: literacy so to speak, and people in the midst of that, 478 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: as well as being taken advantage of and deals and 479 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: things of that nature. By the time you realize that 480 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: you're in trouble, the people around you already knew it 481 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: and they're already gone. 482 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, did you ever get to that? 483 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 3: I call it the old phase, like everything is good, 484 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: and it's like, oh yeah yeah. 485 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: A lot of times I say yeah yeah. 486 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 4: I feel like you would would have saved more money 487 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: than most because you've never presented that lifestyle. 488 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 5: Never was flashy, never the jewelry. 489 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: No, he had a catalog that could always to be 490 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: I could always get a show, right, you know what 491 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: I mean. It's just the fact of one to get 492 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: up and go do it, and motivation as a motherfucker 493 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: when you feel unmotivated, and depression things of that nature. 494 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: Plus you're not feeling as worthy as you were as 495 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: you felt back in the past. It where it wears 496 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: on you, takes a toll on you. Then you become recluse. 497 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: You don't want to be bothered with anybody, But the 498 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: bills still come. You still got to go out, so 499 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: you do just enough to get by. Certain things catch up. 500 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: I had a tax a tax thing going on as well. 501 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't crazy number. 502 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: No, not even not like some of these people know. 503 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: Like I said, I always lived a modest lifestyle. Still 504 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 1: to this day, I live a lot of modest life up. 505 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: So I mean, when it comes, I can't it's hard 506 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: for me to describe because I'm still in that space 507 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: where it's why do I got to get these motherfuckerings 508 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: my money? You ain't got to get it, you know, 509 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: But I know, yeah, and I don't know. 510 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, that's that's good that. 511 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: I was gonna ask when you got into that, what 512 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 3: made you have that love back again? Because, like you said, 513 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 3: you were depressed, you didn't want to go out what 514 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 3: what gave you that love? 515 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 2: What gave you that inspiration? 516 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: A few things people that I grew up with, they 517 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: were in the studio making music, was asking me to 518 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: come through battle rap. I love those guys, man, because 519 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: you can tell, like, of course they get paid for 520 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: those battles and stuff, but you can tell that they 521 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: do it because they love that ship. You know what 522 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: I mean. And that's why I even started and just 523 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: wanting to knowing that I had more to contribute than 524 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: what I had, knowing that in hindsight that if I 525 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: would have did better or paid attention a little bit more, 526 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: it would have turned out better for me. But knowing 527 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: that and saying to myself that there's always time to 528 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: improve and what can I improve on helped a lot. 529 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: I started being more grounded, taking better care of myself 530 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: as well as my surroundings and the people around me, 531 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: and listening more. That's one major thing right there that 532 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't do. A lot a good 533 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: listener is going to learn, So yeah, me a while. 534 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 4: One thing I loved I saw you do when you 535 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 4: apologize to the Destiny child, and I just thought that 536 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 4: was dope, because that's something that you know, we don't do. 537 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 4: We grow up, we evolve, and we do constantly think 538 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 4: about people we may have done wrong. But nobody else 539 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 4: just publicly said, hey, man, that was something that bothered 540 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,479 Speaker 4: me from the day it happened, like it really stuck 541 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 4: with me for a very long time. 542 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: And I'm in everything I said. Man, it was genuine 543 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: in that moment. You know, they didn't deserve that ship, 544 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: and I was just miserable. That's all. 545 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 4: Nobody wants to admit that. That was the one that 546 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 4: admits it's us. I was miserable pretty much. 547 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: Did you ever speak to them after the apology? 548 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: I haven't seen them. I haven't seen her, but you know, 549 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: I've run into Kelly. I run into Michelle. I haven't 550 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: ran Nobody runs in the beating like you don't run 551 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: into be honest ship. But yeah, I'm ran into Kelly. 552 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I ran in the Kelly rolling in 553 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: Flight club in LA, you know what I mean. Let 554 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: her know. I was very proud of what she was 555 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: doing and everything, you know what I mean. And that 556 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: was before the apology years ago, and Michelle I seen 557 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: her had a basketball game. I think she was finding 558 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: Jesus at the time. Good for her though, advocate, Yeah, 559 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 1: love her. 560 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 4: When did you realize? When did you say to yourself? Yo, 561 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 4: it's me, I'm I'm miserable. I knew that back then, 562 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 4: Really yeah, I knew it. I just didn't want to 563 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 4: accept it, you know. 564 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 2: And you wouldn't make you miserable. You had it seemed 565 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: like you had everything. You had success, you had, the money, 566 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 2: you had, the life. It seems like you had everything. 567 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: I didn't respect. I didn't respect anything. And with that 568 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: being said, I didn't think anybody respected me. So I 569 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: just wanted to go away and work on some things. 570 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: And like I said, it worked out for me. Man. 571 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting everybody do what I did or everybody 572 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: can do what I did, because honestly, I can fall 573 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: back on a group that's iconic at any point in time, 574 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: so there's always going to be a bag there for me. 575 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: But the point is it's satisfying enough for me to 576 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: want to go back. What can I do that advance myself? 577 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: And I think I'm doing a pretty good job of it. Man, 578 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: I'm happy, and I think it's resonating and people see it, 579 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, calling me Zaddy at fifty two years old, 580 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: What is that. That's a good thing. 581 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: Man, that's a good thing. 582 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 5: She said. 583 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 4: She said, they said, y yeah, they call me fine, 584 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 4: a f girl, Fine air force nigga. 585 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 2: So what got you into the into the movie and 586 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 2: the acting and. 587 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: When you do have to get into it knowing that ship? 588 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: But do you feel a way when you have to 589 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: audition because you are such a celebrity stare people know. 590 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: Who you are. 591 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: No, there's never an ego. That's one thing I never had. 592 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: It was the ego and ship I do. I don't 593 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: like auditions. I don't know anybody that really does and ship, 594 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: but you I appreciate them. It's this I mean, I 595 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: would suggest that anybody. That's because I get people in 596 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: the music game all day. I would tell them all 597 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: the same thing. Do the work, take the classes, read 598 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: the books, because when you step on that set, your 599 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: next look got to be your best look or they 600 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: will not call your ass back. And when those people 601 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: break bread in Hollywood, they break bread, please believe it, Yes, 602 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: sir me man like I said, one day at a 603 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,479 Speaker 1: time and I'm just gonna ride it to the wheels 604 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: fall off. 605 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 5: What's been your favorite role right now? 606 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: To Davis ro because nobody's seen it coming. Nobody expected that, 607 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: you know. And sometimes sometimes I look at the dialogue 608 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: and we get the scripts and I'll look and go 609 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: right to my point and I look and it's like 610 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: a lot of dialogue here, a lot of jargon. But 611 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: I credit the writers for, you know, giving us something 612 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: that fits the palette enough that we can digest it 613 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: and then make sense of it. Every time. 614 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 4: So my favorite memories when they do your high character 615 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 4: and they'd be like, yeah, that was yeah, yeah, got 616 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 4: you with Davis. That was fairly new right there. 617 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: I like the one that I never miss I like 618 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 1: that one because I never missed. 619 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 5: Why the hell did they replace red Man with Yes? 620 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: He wouldn't get the jat Oh wow, wow, Okay, at 621 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: least that's what I heard, you know. Did I talk 622 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: to Red Man about it? No? I mean we we 623 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: close close. We don't like ship like that. Don't even 624 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: need to be said, you know what I'm saying. But 625 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: it happens. He was. He's not the first or the 626 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: last person that that'll probably happened to. I remember what's 627 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: the guy's name, Ball guy, actor, very good at what 628 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: he does. Rock No, no, no, his name is actually. 629 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 5: Rock rock, rock, Rock, Rock, rock rock. 630 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: He's very good actor. I think he smacked the fire. 631 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: He smacked fire out of Sonari Lathan in that Tyler 632 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: Perry movie Rock. 633 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: You mean old Sitcomradey, that is the sitcom. 634 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: His name is rock, I believe. I don't know, or 635 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong. That's not his name. But he smacked 636 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: fire out of Socenarilathan in that movie the Tyler Perry 637 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: Joint because she was sleeping with the white dude like 638 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: he ain't what are you talking about? 639 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 4: The bases, Hey, I can't think of his name. I 640 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 4: know exactly what you talk about. Light skin brown. 641 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was let go on the show because he 642 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't get the jab and he was one of their leads. 643 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 1: I believe I could be wrong, but you know, just 644 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: to say that, you know, Redman, he made a decision 645 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: and I stick by whatever his decision was. If he 646 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: feels that was best for him, I agree with him. 647 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: Got you you know what. 648 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 4: I love man, And I don't know how you feel 649 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 4: about this. I feel like there's no group in hip 650 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 4: hop documenting their story and history better than Wu Tang. 651 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is y'all got the 652 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 4: television series. 653 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, y'all got books. 654 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 4: Y'all had the documentary on Showtime. Do you feel like 655 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 4: the story is being told? 656 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: Probably that's Rizzi. I mean it's from his his perspective, 657 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: so it's being properly told through his lens. You know. 658 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: Of course, we all have our own interpretation of how 659 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: shit should be or how shit should go. But what 660 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: you have is what you got, and I'm a stick 661 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: by him. 662 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 5: That's all of it, is really like I got. I 663 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 5: love the doc on Showtime. 664 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: The documentary is all genuine. Of course, doctor is the documentary. 665 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: But the show, I mean, I don't know, watch this episode? 666 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: Is that true? 667 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 4: No? 668 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: I haven't only seen clips like on YouTube and stuff 669 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: like that, and it's usually Dave's clips. People will send 670 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: them to me. We did a great job, I don't know. 671 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: I just couldn't get a grasp on it, you know. 672 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: And I was watching Snowfall at the time, so I know, 673 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: I know. But I've been there. I lived that already, 674 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: that I did that, I've been there. I was going 675 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: to ask for accurate, No, of course not, but none 676 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: of them are actually, even the BMF joint isn't accurate 677 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: at all. 678 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: Loosely based, Yeah, loose is what they say. Back to music, 679 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: You getting back to the music. 680 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: You got that inspiration yet I've always been in the music, 681 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: but well yeah, I've done three since. But the thing is, 682 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: I do it because I want to, now because I 683 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: have to. So that's pretty much why you guys probably 684 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: haven't heard anything or seen anything. But I'm still there. 685 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: Still there some of your favorite rappers, favorite rappers, I'll 686 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: tell you for real, let's last one through three Conway. Yeah, 687 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: that's my guy right there. You know, but those dudes 688 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: like that was that was honor to do that because 689 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: I love what they're doing. It's like it was still 690 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: a place for lyricism and you know, just hardcore bom 691 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: Bad beats. 692 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 4: They go back to documenting the War Tank story. You're 693 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 4: gonna write a book because I love the Ray kuaner 694 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 4: you got. 695 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: And his name is rock Man Dunball, just to get 696 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: his name, SA, are. 697 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 4: You gonna write a book? I think every member of 698 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 4: War Tank should write a book. I love Ray Quarann's 699 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 4: book stair Case at Stage. 700 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: I love you guys, raw. 701 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 5: I don't know if you read them. 702 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: They all speak highly of you in there, you crackhead. 703 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: Now I'm playing. I'm joking. I'm joking. I know I'm joking. 704 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm joking. Yeah, yeah, I mean honestly, no, if I 705 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: if I did decide to do something like that, I 706 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: like how Mike did his. 707 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 5: Thing, Oh the one Man plays. 708 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: You know, because I'm telling stories, I think Ice Tea 709 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,479 Speaker 1: should do something like that. You guys, get Ice up here. 710 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: Ice got the best stories, bro, like and you know, 711 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: Ice Tea's been in the game for decades, like we're 712 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: talking thirty plus. You know what I'm saying, that dude, 713 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: he has a lot. But yeah, I would love to 714 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: do it like that kind of thing, like on the 715 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: stage and just go through it from the time that 716 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: I because I can remember all the way back to 717 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: when I was two and a half years old. 718 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 5: Really yeah, I can't. I can go back to kindergarten. 719 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: Ill you remember two years old? 720 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: My mom told me that I was two because I 721 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: described our house we lived in when I was two 722 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: years old. Wow, And we never stayed in any place 723 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: for too long, so for me to be able to 724 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,959 Speaker 1: describe this house. You know, as soon as you come 725 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: in the door, the living room, then you had the kitchen, 726 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: here was opening here, opening here, we had three cereals. 727 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: We had uh Franknberry Bouberry, and we had the werewarf one. 728 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: Anybody remember that one fruit brew? All right? Two years old? 729 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: Then you go down this long hall. It was the 730 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: doorway here. That was me and my sister's room. Doorway 731 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the hall, mom and Dad's room. 732 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: The reason why I knew that it was because because 733 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: each night one of us will fall off the bed 734 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: start crying, one of them will come get us, bring 735 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: them in the room with them directly at the end 736 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: of the hall bathroom. Two years old. 737 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: Jesus, it's a genius child. Two years old. 738 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 5: I feel like you got to tell this. 739 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 4: I feel like you have to tell your story or 740 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 4: how to start from there, because if you don't, somebody else. 741 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: I definitely start from there. I remember being pushed out 742 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: the window in my diaper. What it was It was 743 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: a pair of draws. 744 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 2: But you know who pushed you out the window? 745 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: I think my sister did snow outside it was it 746 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: was only one by the way, the house is only 747 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: one level, okay, okay. 748 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 2: On fieldough you're a baby, or if you're in a pample. 749 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 5: You know. 750 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: Might have been draws. I was two, two and a half. 751 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: It might have been my jaws, but I just know 752 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: I didn't have anything on except that it was white. 753 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: I remember that much. And freaking um fat Albert coming 754 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: on television. 755 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, the wo Tank series ends with y'all having an 756 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 4: issue with Divine and that seems to be a common theme. 757 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: Everybody issue with divin. Everybody had an issue with divin. 758 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: It comes with the territory. If you're will taking, you 759 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: have an issue with Divine period. How he feels about 760 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: Mitchell one nickname Vine is coolest al Vine cool is 761 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: the other side of the pillar. I think that dude 762 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: did an excellent job playing Vine, you know. And but 763 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: the guy that really resonated to me the most, especially 764 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: when I see the clips, is the guy that plays power. 765 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: He's got his mannerisms to laugh everything that that's power 766 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 1: all fucking day. I think he killed that ship. 767 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 5: So you didn't help with your role at all. 768 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: And I went and spoke to Dave and I told 769 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: Dave Dave the reason Dave really got the part. David's 770 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: an MC from New York. It's a given the. 771 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 6: Mannerisms and all that shit gonna be. I was like, 772 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 6: do you you know what I mean, don't be method man. 773 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 6: I wasn't method man. Then be that MC that fly 774 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 6: HMC from New York and Dave did. 775 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: A good job. Man, I'd be wondering what you and 776 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: I just wanted him to be comfortable. What you right. 777 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: I could tell when he was uncomfortable front because you 778 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: have an eye for stuff like that. But once he 779 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: hit his stride, he was off to the races. It's 780 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: killing it, especially when you put the mic in his hand. 781 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: Some of them dudes is rhyming way off beat, you 782 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But you know when you have 783 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: a couple of swords and you put him together and 784 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: it makes I mean, it's the wu tang, it's the slang. 785 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: It's the sword style of running. 786 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 4: God Jesus, I always wonder what the conversations are like 787 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 4: between you and Mary saying, Man, me. 788 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: And Mary be laughing. Mary's funny as hell. Yeah, I 789 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't know. 790 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 4: It though, y'all reminity like, because y'all got it both both, okay, both. 791 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: Mary cool as hell and ship. You know, I don't 792 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: wont say too much because you know, it's it's regular 793 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: ship for me and ship whatever it's like, that's that's 794 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: a little cis right there, a little big sis she 795 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: born before me in January. But Mary coolest hell. I mean, 796 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: what can I say is ship that I haven't said 797 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: already in the interview and queen she demands respect and she. 798 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 2: Gonna get it and she deserves it. 799 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 800 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 4: I do wonder about the bond that people have when 801 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 4: they make a hat record though, what you mean, because 802 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 4: y'all are like y'all. 803 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: Like kind of married for life. Mary made me feel 804 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: comfortable first when I first met her. I met at 805 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: Puffy's birthday party. I think it was Roland when that 806 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: ship remember Roseland Yeah, she came up to me, was like, 807 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: bring the pain was my shirt? 808 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 2: Like wow, Mary? 809 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: And I had to tell her that love No Limit 810 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: was my ship and I started singing it to her 811 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: a little bit. But yeah, it was dope. It was dope. 812 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: Next thing I know, he was in the studio recording and. 813 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 2: Puff set that off. 814 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: Puffy shout out to Puff, Daddy, Diddy Man, Diddy love 815 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: that dude. Man. Like people don't what they do they do? 816 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: They give him a spops they have to. It's like 817 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: Puff Puff that nigga though Puff been around a long 818 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,479 Speaker 1: time man and I respect the ship out that dude. 819 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 4: Go back to tonight to this other fan that I 820 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 4: saw you on, say on Math five, and you were 821 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 4: talking about how you didn't really liked. 822 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: The cal per Se. What do you mean the first album? Yeah, yeah, 823 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: because when we originally recorded it, there was a flood. 824 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: I remember, I heard about the flood. Lot of the 825 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: music got one. But I think you're being too hard 826 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: on yourself with the cow I mean, those rhymes. A 827 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 1: lot of those rhymes was written between fifteen and seventeen 828 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: years old, so you know, I had been doing that though, 829 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: some of those for a while. But the music side 830 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: of it, it was like making shit on the flyes 831 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: at some point even it was just hard. It was rough. 832 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: It was rough because we were we were basically touring 833 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: promoting the first album, and they had us way on 834 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: the West coast and We'll be in North Carolina somewhere 835 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: and I'm going in all these different Some of the 836 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: studios were so nasty, like had rats and shit the 837 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: popa stoppa with the stocking over it, you know what 838 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you know like that. But we got through it, 839 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: and the best part about it was that the album 840 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: did well because it set the standard for the rest 841 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: of the album solo albums that came after that. It 842 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, we're really gonna be waiting for this 843 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: Ray Korn joint on. We're really gonna be waiting for 844 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: this soul dirty jointing, you know what I mean? So 845 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: on and so forth. 846 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 5: You a comic book guy, yep, So what if the 847 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 5: flood never happens? 848 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: Where where is? My ship? Probably would have been five mics? 849 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: I got four and a half in the sauce of four. 850 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: It was four. It was four in the sauce. I 851 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: think I for in a sauce, but a lot. But 852 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: you know what though, And I'm glad y'all brought that 853 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: first album up because that first album and a lot 854 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: of that ship had to do with these women on 855 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: this couch back here, Randa, well, Kim, not so much 856 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: Randa and and Tracy, Like, okay, that the source when 857 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: I first started, because that was Maddie and you know, 858 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: Maddie and them not taking nothing away from Kim, that's 859 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: my homie right there. Love Ken, I love him. I 860 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: ain't trying to shade or nothing, but the truth is 861 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: the truth got very instrumental, and and and molding me 862 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: into the artist that I am today or was at 863 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 1: that point in time. Got that album done, gave me 864 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: all the promo and everything that I needed, and it 865 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,959 Speaker 1: got and it went crazier after all I need drop 866 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: because once all I Need dropped, it was like I 867 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: was in the office every day meeting people that I 868 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: hadn't even freaking met before. 869 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 3: How does it feelings to work with these ladies, because 870 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 3: I mean these are ladies that when I when I. 871 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: Came in the lobby, he was like, I ain't even 872 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 1: recognize Tracy at first. 873 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 5: From here, give me a home. 874 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And and then I 875 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: come into and I see Rhonda and Kim and I'm like, 876 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: this is a reunion right now. So now I'm comfortable 877 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: because I was coming in here on my bullshit. Now 878 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: I'm playing. 879 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. 880 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 3: The championship matchup is tonight the b e T's Greatest 881 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 3: rap crew of all time? 882 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah performing different? Oh no, no, I'm not performing, No no, no, 883 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: I'll be there though, I'll definitely be the Yeah, it's 884 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: gonna be hot. 885 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 2: How can they vote him website b e T dot com, 886 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 2: slash go vote that, I say, that right. 887 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: Kim BT dot com go vote with your stinking ass 888 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: that part and I want I love you, bro, I'm 889 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: a fan fan. You really are. Let's hero to me. 890 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 4: I get around, I get around me and the wo 891 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 4: tang I feel like a kid, like hell yeah. 892 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: Damn y'all, don't get a third seat. And this motherfucker 893 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: my son need a job. I'm just asking this. He 894 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: funny as fun funny, yeah funny. 895 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 2: Why are you bringing with you? 896 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: You want him in the movie. You gotta watch my 897 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: grand baby? 898 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 2: All right, there you have. It's the Breakfast Club. It's 899 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 2: method Man. 900 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 3: We just need to do two things for BT. We'll 901 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 3: be back with more method Man, so don't move. 902 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club on BT. 903 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: How is that Devin Franklin ship though he's funny. 904 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 2: Keep in lock. We got more with methad Man when 905 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 2: we come back. It's the Breakfast Club on B E T. 906 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back. We're still kicking it with methan Man, Charlamagne 907 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 2: Cool