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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Move the Sticks, presented by New Era. It's

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Speaker 1: DJ Bucky are good, Frien Rhett Today on the show.

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Speaker 1: Rhett is sitting next to me and Bucky. We've got

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Speaker 1: you for a few minutes. Man, you run all over town.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, man, I'm good man, I'm the past

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Speaker 1: Trio is back. This feels good like let's get rolling right?

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Speaker 1: So good? Hey, Buck on how first of all, we're

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Speaker 1: of our reaction to what we've seen in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Gonna get to uh NFC East a FC East. Me

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Speaker 1: and Redd will probably take care of that once we

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Speaker 1: get to that point of the show. Um, but Buck,

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Speaker 1: when you look at what you've seen, UM, I got

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Speaker 1: Just what stood out to you here in the in

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Speaker 1: very early, uh in the preseason. I would agree, you know.

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Speaker 1: But I would agree with you on Daniel Jones. I

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Speaker 1: we sit, and maybe they're not worried about it, but

426
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Speaker 1: Tank Lawrence is still on pp Byron Byron Jones still

427
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Speaker 1: on PUP. So it's Crawford. So you've got three studs

428
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Speaker 1: up there that are still out right now, uh, you know,

429
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Speaker 1: and then you're talking about back injuries for Zach Martin.

430
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Speaker 1: Tyrnn Smith's has been acting up again too. You know.

431
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Speaker 1: Gosh that that's a lot to kind of deal with

432
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Speaker 1: all at once. And look, I think if if Zeke

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Speaker 1: is there, and I think if if the primary components

434
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Speaker 1: are fully healthy, then they are odds on favorites to

435
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Speaker 1: repeat in the division. But without them, I don't know

436
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Speaker 1: what to think. Even though Tony Pollard has been impressive

437
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Speaker 1: now he's been a nice job, I still think though

438
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Speaker 1: you look at the workload or lack of workload he

439
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Speaker 1: had there at Memphis teaming up with Darrel Henderson, I

440
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Speaker 1: I just can't see them trying to load him up.

441
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Speaker 1: Even if Zeke is not there for the start of

442
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Speaker 1: the season, they're gonna have to give those carries up Morris, However,

443
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Speaker 1: he's not built to carry all that. So while he

444
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Speaker 1: could be a very nice um component to this offense,

445
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Speaker 1: I don't think you want him to be the driving force.

446
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Speaker 1: I think you want to sprinkle him in and you

447
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,880
Speaker 1: want to gi him a shower here, uh to start

448
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 1: things off when I look at this team. Um, to me,

449
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Speaker 1: if this offensive line can stay healthy is where I start,

450
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Speaker 1: because that's how Again I look at what's your formula.

451
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 1: We talked about all the time, what is your formula

452
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Speaker 1: to win games? They have a very known formula. It's

453
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Speaker 1: clear it's gonna be powerful fall. Everything goes off of that.

454
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Speaker 1: And to me, um, keeping Travis Frederick hopefully healthy for

455
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Speaker 1: a full season is big and and Tyron Smith those

456
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Speaker 1: would be the two. And you look at also Zack Martin.

457
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Speaker 1: Martin has been dealing with a disc injury. So those

458
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Speaker 1: three guys. If you get those three guys for sixteen

459
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Speaker 1: games a playoff team, if not, it drastically changes, no question.

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Speaker 1: So and look, I think you could kind of as

461
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Speaker 1: we as you get down to the Eagles, Um, who

462
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Speaker 1: I would say, you know, healthy Carson wins Right now

463
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Speaker 1: at this point with where all these teams stand, make

464
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Speaker 1: them the clear cut favorite in division just based on

465
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Speaker 1: where the Cowboys are. And to me, I just I

466
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,640
Speaker 1: talked to people around the league and you're looking at

467
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Speaker 1: their rosters and we're having these conversations and it's okay,

468
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: we're trying to find this guy or that guy who's

469
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Speaker 1: gonna win our starting right tackle job, who's going to uh,

470
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Speaker 1: who's gonna emerge third down back? And you go visit

471
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Speaker 1: the Eagles and you start having the roster questions and

472
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Speaker 1: it's like, who's gonna be our fifth receiver? You know,

473
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Speaker 1: who's gonna be our ninth lineman. They have depth everywhere.

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Speaker 1: At one place they didn't feel great about it was quarterback,

475
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Speaker 1: and they went out and got Josh McCown, so, um,

476
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Speaker 1: don't worry, he's gonna be back. Yahdel back. So they

477
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Speaker 1: they'll they'll carry three. I think we have to try

478
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Speaker 1: and sneak Thorson down. I'll see him making this football team.

479
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: But depth in the backfield, depth of receiver. I mean,

480
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Speaker 1: there's just depth everywhere. And they want to look at

481
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Speaker 1: the defensive line and I say, I say, okay, let's

482
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Speaker 1: look at this. You know, forget the starters where you've

483
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Speaker 1: got the Brandon Grahams, of Fletcher Coxes and all those.

484
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Speaker 1: I look at the second group and I see Vinny Curry,

485
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Speaker 1: who's who's played well in this league and his great

486
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Speaker 1: fit in this scheme. I see Josh Sweat, who's got

487
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Speaker 1: a ton of ability. Timmy Journegan. Um, they drafted Shriff Miller,

488
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Speaker 1: who's got some speed off the edge. I mean their

489
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Speaker 1: their second group plus of defensive line is very good. Um.

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Speaker 1: So I think this is the This is a team

491
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Speaker 1: with the most talented division. And if if Carson Wentz

492
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Speaker 1: can stay out there for sixteen weeks, which has been

493
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Speaker 1: a challenge, I think this team wins it. And if

494
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Speaker 1: we're questioning health on the Cowboys side of things, there's

495
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Speaker 1: some good news for the Eagles. Ronald Darby is back practicing.

496
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Speaker 1: And then on the other side, you've got Sidney Jones

497
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Speaker 1: and Russell Douglassidy Jones having a really good gap on

498
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Speaker 1: for the other corner. And so I mean depth of

499
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Speaker 1: the d line, depth in the defensive backfield because they've

500
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Speaker 1: had to play so much the last couple of the

501
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Speaker 1: last year or so. That's that's an impressive team all around. Yeah,

502
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: they're they're in uh, they're in a pretty good spot

503
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Speaker 1: there and they can absorb you don't want to, but

504
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: they can't absorb an injury if they'd have to. All Right,

505
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Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins outside the quarterback position, which is obviously

506
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Speaker 1: where a lot of eyes will point. Um. Any other

507
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Speaker 1: storylines you're keeping an eye on with this team. Yeah,

508
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, the running back rotation I think will be interesting.

509
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Speaker 1: You know how much just Darius Guys so much run

510
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Speaker 1: does he give him if he's fully healthy here? And

511
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Speaker 1: then Adrian Peterson you know, is still there, right, I mean,

512
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Speaker 1: and then Chris Thompson I think, you know, kind of

513
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Speaker 1: flies under the radar a little bit too. How about

514
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Speaker 1: Trent Williams and that whole thing. Yeah, I mean I

515
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Speaker 1: think they made a nice move at least going to

516
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Speaker 1: get Donald Pin in the in the interim. Um, but man,

517
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Speaker 1: that is a that's a I mean, that's the best

518
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Speaker 1: player on offense the NFL. Yeah, that that's a That's

519
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Speaker 1: a tough one to overcome there for sure. Um, I

520
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a really good What have they

521
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,479
Speaker 1: got a receiver? There's nothing on this offer. I mean

522
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Speaker 1: the running back position is interesting to me, um, and

523
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Speaker 1: that gets me excited with the depth and talent to

524
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Speaker 1: have their Outside of that, I mean, I go to

525
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Speaker 1: the defense, and so that's again, what's your formula, right,

526
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: you have to run the heck out of it and

527
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Speaker 1: play great defense. And I think they do have a

528
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Speaker 1: chance to be really good on the defensive side of

529
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Speaker 1: the ball up front and this division, I mean, there

530
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Speaker 1: is a lot of talent and teamed Uh you know what, Look,

531
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Speaker 1: just go to the University of Alabama. That's where they

532
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Speaker 1: do all their shopping. That's right, that's right. Uh, yeah,

533
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Speaker 1: you're no kidding. Um. And you know the other thing

534
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Speaker 1: I'll say is, I think Ryan Kerrigan has gone into

535
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Speaker 1: the radar is one of the better edge rushers in

536
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Speaker 1: every year. Just throw up numbers, right, I haven't seen

537
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Speaker 1: a ton of Montes sweat. I haven't gone back and

538
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Speaker 1: watched their games yet, so I'll be interested to see

539
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Speaker 1: what what he's able to give them. And yeah, defensively

540
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: they should be pretty solid. I made some continuity there.

541
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Speaker 1: I mean, but it feels to me, it feels like

542
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: a seven win team. You know, if you're gonna put

543
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: kind of a number, it's a six or seven win

544
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: team played great defense. One. I mean, do we just

545
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Speaker 1: try to I I have advocated for Haskins and people

546
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: are different on this. I just think I think the

547
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: kids mentally tough. I think he's physically tough. The biggest

548
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: knock on him as he hadn't played, So to me,

549
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: the answer to that is not having him not play.

550
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Speaker 1: He made some NFL throws. He did, he made NFL

551
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Speaker 1: I talked about it before week one. He made big

552
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Speaker 1: time throws. So sooner the better for me. I want

553
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Speaker 1: to get him up to speed. I want to talk

554
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Speaker 1: about butts and seats. He'll do that, no question, a

555
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: little bit more than case Keenum might. Yeah. And I

556
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Speaker 1: think when you get a coaching staff that needs to win,

557
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Speaker 1: if if you're not gonna win, the other thing you

558
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 1: need to do is show progress with the young quarterback.

559
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Speaker 1: So that helps that cause as well. Uh and then

560
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: obviously making our way down to the giants here you're

561
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: bullish on the Giant always. Look, I think they had

562
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 1: another night showing in week two. The ones did for sure,

563
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Speaker 1: before we even get to Daniel j Eli. Look he did,

564
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Speaker 1: he did, and you know we didn't even see sae

565
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Speaker 1: que so and we've yet to see him really, so

566
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Speaker 1: you know, once you add that in, I mean, that's

567
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: that's impressive. And I think the biggest thing is this

568
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: offensive line is improved. They are much better than they

569
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Speaker 1: were last year. So that just allows him to do

570
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: so many different things. Uh. So that for those that

571
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: listen to this show, they know your background. You know

572
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Speaker 1: they know they biases. So let me just tell you.

573
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you exactly why Rhett is so bullish

574
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: on this football team. And I thought of it when

575
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: I was watching the game last weekend. It finally came

576
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Speaker 1: to me. Cody Latimer, My man, let's talk about Cody

577
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: Latimer having himself a pre season. I can't believe he

578
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Speaker 1: didn't lead with Cody Latimer and what he did in

579
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: the preseason. You know, like I already gave you one

580
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: one who's your homer? So we're not I'm not done.

581
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about Derwin James. I thought you

582
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: might try and transition to talk about Dan Feenie on

583
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,239
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, but you already. I'll

584
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: get the semi cops down. And I think those are

585
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: all the players from Indiana in the NFL. By the way,

586
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 1: I took a shot at you. I don't know if

587
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Speaker 1: you ever saw it. You weren't. You weren't even on

588
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: the show. I was on UM and we were told

589
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: about what was it. I remember taking a little shot UM.

590
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: Obviously it wasn't a good one. No, I was not memorable, apparently,

591
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: but I did I did take a shot at you.

592
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: You did. I always appreciate it. Oh yeah, rhet didn't

593
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: know how to read. Is that what it was? Man?

594
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 1: That's a rough one. Ah, that's a rough one. My

595
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: parents have been good money. Oh yeah, yeah, No, there's

596
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: been uh yeah, there's been plenty of shots. Take ok

597
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: I guess to narrow them all down. All right, what else?

598
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: What else? We go? Right now? You're going Eagles for

599
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: the NFC East NFC Giants, real quick? On on on

600
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: my takeaway on them. Look, I've I've said at Evan

601
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: ingram By all the stock you can. I think he's

602
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: gonna have a huge year in this offense. I think

603
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: that the offensive line is built to run the football.

604
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be able to move people, which

605
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: obviously bodes well for se Kwan and past protections. Still,

606
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: I don't feel great about the tackles. I know Nate

607
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: Soldiers hoping for a bounce back year there, Um, Mike Ramers,

608
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,959
Speaker 1: I just look at some of the edge rushers you're

609
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: gonna see inside that as long as rumors doesn't seeing

610
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: von Miller will be okay. Yeah, well I did not U,

611
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: So that to me would be my concern with this

612
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: team the other side of the ball. UM, a lot

613
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: of young players gonna get a chance to play. I

614
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: just try and identify who that pass rusher is going

615
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: to be. And the one guy when I was out

616
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: there that kind of popped in practice and I actually

617
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: saw him make some plays there, Lorenzo Carter. Lorenzo Carter

618
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: change him and as it's been nice too at mean

619
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Speaker 1: young guy you're hoping continue to grow. But that's the one,

620
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: the one when you out there and watch the position

621
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Speaker 1: group go through drills and watch him and one on one,

622
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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Carter was the one that kind of jumped out

623
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Speaker 1: to me. So he's got to emerge. They've got to

624
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: have somebody emerge as an edge rusher here to compliment

625
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: what else they have. They had four sacks last year,

626
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: uh so heading into year to double that up, that'd

627
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: be nice. Yeah, No, get you closer to ten so

628
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: that it'll be interesting to see. I still think, UM,

629
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: I think it'll be an inconsistent team. I think it's

630
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: I think it's a five hundred giver. Take the way

631
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: I see them. I think the third surprises nine nine

632
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: wins wouldn't be surprises seven wins, But I put that on.

633
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: There's a pretty clear order and it all can change.

634
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: But to me, so you're still Eagles, Eagles, Cowboys, Giants

635
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: and it comes back for Week one. I don't I

636
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Speaker 1: don't know that I would change that, but I do

637
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Speaker 1: think that we will see both those teams in the postseason.

638
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Speaker 1: However it ends, got it? You want to flip over

639
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: to the a f C. Yeah, so who gets second place? Uh?

640
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: In the NFC in oh? Yeah, yeah, we just start

641
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: there right in New England A sorry, by the way.

642
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: By the way, um talking about New England and talking

643
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: to some people around the league, the same the same

644
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: name comes up when you talk about the most valuable

645
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: people in the New England Patriots dynasty. The order of

646
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: pecking order either it's one A, one B right with

647
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Speaker 1: Brady and Belichick. Who's the next person that's mentioned the

648
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: most people you talked abound like, what's the name that

649
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: comes up more than any other with credit for this dynasty?

650
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: Dante SCARNECKI correct, some I've been doing their homework. Nicely done?

651
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: Love it? Uh No, he is. He is so good

652
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: as an offensive one. That's why they had to bring

653
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Speaker 1: him out of retirement to come back unbelievable. Um So

654
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 1: to me, um, with him in place is gonna be

655
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: another you know, really really good group. They win had

656
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: a couple of serious sided I haven't got a chance

657
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: to dig into that tape and I want to see it.

658
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: But he was somebody you know, we all loved coming

659
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: out of college. Seeing it live. I didn't notice him,

660
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: So that's good thing. Probably good. Yeah that with long

661
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: snappers and taxes. I want to know someone you see

662
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: him live, unless we're talking about a run game. But yeah,

663
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: I know I didn't. I didn't notice him in past protection.

664
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Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to be really good collection of backs. Um.

665
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: I love what they're doing there. And defensively, you know,

666
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: somebody brought this up because I had tweeted out who

667
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Speaker 1: I thought the top five defenses were gonna be, you know,

668
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I did not mention the Patriots,

669
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Speaker 1: and I like to I like the Patriots, don't love

670
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: they don't they don't stand out. It's a good group. Somebody,

671
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Speaker 1: somebody somebody to eet me go like when was the

672
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: last time they didn't finish in the top five, And

673
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, hold on, don't check scoring and yeah, scoring

674
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Speaker 1: right and so I'm going to last year top five,

675
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Speaker 1: you're top five top Oh my gosh, these guys are

676
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: the top five every year scoring defense. But they don't

677
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 1: do it with flash, no flash in the names change.

678
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: They just played great red zone defense. Trey Flowers have

679
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: like eight sacks as a career, and he was their best,

680
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, the best guy after the passer. I mean,

681
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Speaker 1: I don't know who loves Chase Winovich more. Is it

682
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: Casserle or Baldinger? All in? Yes, I mean I agree.

683
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: I loved watching him. He's fun to watch. Give I

684
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: give Chase one of it some love here? You want

685
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: to play? You want to play? Where did? Where did

686
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: I have him? Yeah? Let's do it, Chase one of it.

687
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: Let's can we get a drum roll? We don't have

688
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: a drum roll? Do we hide them? That would be nice.

689
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: This would be a fun fun game to play. Um

690
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: where wheready end up having these guys? All right? He

691
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: would be listed as an edge rusher for me. Chase

692
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Speaker 1: Winovich was my drafted seventy seven overall in the third

693
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Speaker 1: round and he was my player. Oh yeah, I'm I'm

694
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: plus the league. You should Why am I not doing these?

695
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: Chase one of its should breakdowns. That's true. We can

696
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: use that as a drum all that's kind of a

697
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: college football vibe to it, and I think it all

698
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: kind of ties in. We've got a college football episode

699
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Speaker 1: come later in the week. Let go a little promo there,

700
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: all right, So Patriots, let's move on, Dolphins. Well, let's

701
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: do it this way. Oh who you think is gonna

702
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: be second? Let's do it this way. Who's the biggest

703
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: challenger to the Patriots in this division? Rob said the

704
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: Bills are gonna win the division? Um he did. I

705
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: think he doubled down on that as well. I'm gonna go. Look,

706
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: I've been choo choo been. I've been riding the same

707
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: Donald train for a time, not getting off anytime soon.

708
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: I feel like it's getting a little crowded on here though.

709
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: It's making me uncomfortable. Yeah, it's filling up. When it's

710
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: when getting tight. I mean, I felt like I felt

711
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: like I had my legs up on the seat across

712
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: from me. And then it was it was like one

713
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: of those ten o'clock flights on Southwest of Phoenix. And

714
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: it's just like you and four other people on the

715
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: Saturday of Super Bowl Week being the Super Bowl. I

716
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: had a lot of space. They're just throwing me nuts.

717
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: The nuts like the drinks and anything they want. Super

718
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: Bowl week after the game, I can't even I can't

719
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: even get through T s A to get on the

720
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: plane on the same Darnald Express. Right, you need clear now? Um?

721
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I know. I think I think we have

722
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: any have everything. I've heard. He's done well, he's look

723
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: good in camp, so uh sod all right, So that's

724
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: your thought there. I agree. I think the Jets are

725
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: the clear number two here. I'm excited to see Gayson

726
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: and Donald Revett up here for the regular season. Um.

727
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: I think it was a cool move that Joe Douglas

728
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: pulled off, getting Khalil to come back out of retirement

729
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: and come in and kind of shore up a position

730
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: of you know, perceived weakness there at center. Um, he's

731
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: probably not done right trading for Alex Lewis, you know,

732
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: and he's on the dollar there. Who's somebody that can

733
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: give him, at least, if nothing else, a really valuable

734
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: swing backup. So that's what Joe believes in. That's what

735
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: he believes And what do they do at corner? We

736
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: know they're pretty set at safety, which Mall Adams and

737
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: you get Marcus may back healthy. Um corner wise though,

738
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: I mean, is that does that? And then Avery Williamson

739
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: goes down with the A C L. That's yeah, they

740
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: feel you know, like they hate they hate to see

741
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: that injury, but they actually feel pretty good about some

742
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: of the young talent they have at the linebacker position

743
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: that they're gonna be okay there and long term interesting

744
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: to see because you pay that much money to see

745
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: j Moseley, you know, and you're you're paying a lot

746
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: of money um to every him say it'll be interesting

747
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: long term. I don't think you want to have that much.

748
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: So they need some of these young guys to emerge

749
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: the cornerback position. Like it's a lot of names and

750
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: not many folks gonna be familiar with and that would

751
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: that would be a market. I believe you'll see them

752
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: target once the cuts come as well, and if if

753
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: there's any good news on that side of things, you know,

754
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: you're looking at the teams they played twice in the division.

755
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: There's not a ton of receiver talent on the perimeter,

756
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: so maybe it's really good at defensive tackle. You see

757
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: if yeah, I meant there, but we'll see edge rusher

758
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: wise would be another question. There's who's going to step

759
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: up and be that guy? All right, So to say

760
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: that we're both in on the jets to two does

761
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: not mean we're writing off the bills. I think this

762
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: will be an impro I love I love them defensively, yeah,

763
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean ed Oliver, would you see would you see

764
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: at your training camp? Stop anything there? Well, they're parking

765
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: him at the three technique, which I like, let's worry

766
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: should be and trying to move him all over the place.

767
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: Forget that. Just let him get comfortable in that spot,

768
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: which I like the safety duo there. I don't know

769
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: that they get enough attention. One of the best in

770
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: the league. When you look at Poyer and Hide and

771
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: what they're able to do. Davious White is just all

772
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: days steady. You know exactly what you're getting there. And

773
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: I and for my money, Tremaine Edmunds superstar. He's gonna

774
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: be a superstar player and really was last year. I

775
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: didn't get mentioned with vander esh when you stacked the

776
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: numbers up. Not all that different over a Hunter tackles.

777
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: So I think defensively're gonna be outstanding and then offensively,

778
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: I know Josh Allen's looked really good in the preseason.

779
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: That gives me some hope there, But I still offensive

780
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: line wise, to me, that's my that's my hang on

781
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: that too. I was looking at that earlier. I mean,

782
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins is your left tackle, right, I'm okay with

783
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: Deka there, and then once you go down after that,

784
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling great. Feliciano. You know, Cody Ford, He's

785
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: gonna be an adjustment period, but I think he's got

786
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: a chance to be good. Mitch Morris's is a good center,

787
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: but I think he's banged up a little bit, right, Okay,

788
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you know, look that'll be that'll be

789
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: the challenge for this team. And I do though, think

790
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: of all the divisions, this one to me is a

791
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: clear one to three four. It's a fun running grab

792
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: running back group there too. By the way, Den Devin Singletary, sure,

793
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: I want to see Devin Singletary get a little more

794
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: run there, um just getting a little more pop. Now,

795
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: if you're the Dolphins, is there, can you give me

796
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: a good reason? No? Why, Josh, I have no reason

797
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: other than I can say Ryan Fitzpatrick right now, might

798
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: be a little bit better for your opportunity to win

799
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: a game early in this season, and that is not

800
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: the reason to start him in my opinion. Otherwise, you're

801
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: gonna be in this situation again next year with an

802
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: opportunity to draft, to craft to evaluate Josh Rosen. You

803
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: have to either he's good enough to be the guy

804
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: or he's not. You cannot leave this season and not

805
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: have the answer to that question. You can. I'm with you.

806
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that a thousand percent, and I

807
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: think we're kind of getting away from the Hey, Fitzpatrick

808
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: is the clear cut starter as and this is this

809
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: is said earlier book. Everybody wants to win and maybe

810
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: they shocked the world and go to the playoffs. This

811
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: is an evaluation year. You need to know what you've

812
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: got going forward. Trust me, as a Padre fan in baseball,

813
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: this is my life. Okay, I want to end the

814
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: season and no, I've got no worries at shortstop, no

815
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: worries at third base, no worries at third base. We

816
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: better go get a center fielder, like that's what the

817
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: Dolphins have to use this year to be able to Yeah,

818
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: the part I hate baseball Padre, oh gosh, that's so

819
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: that you can it's always, it's always in style, it

820
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: never goes out. I think we recorded that two or

821
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: three years ago. Um, but that's what they have to do.

822
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: Not being able to get a true evaluation of Josh

823
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: Rosen because you're playing Ryan Fitzpatrick makes absolutely no sense

824
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: to me. Padres seven games under five hundred and seven

825
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: and a half back of the wild card. Not bad.

826
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: Take that. Take that it's better. Actually sound a little

827
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: better than the last time I was checking in on

828
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: all right. I punted on the season a few weeks back. Uh,

829
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: that's it. And then the you know Patriots, it would

830
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: be a shock still to me if they're not the

831
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: c S champs. Now that's the way we feel about it, right,

832
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Fun episode man right to have Buck

833
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: on the phone. He'll be back, uh, and we'll be

834
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: chatting with us here soon. I know we've got another

835
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Speaker 1: episode coming up. This to it with the two of

836
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Speaker 1: us reret where we're gonna be previewing a little bit

837
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: of this college football weekend as well as talking college quarterbacks. Guys,

838
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: you've got a chance to see at the Peyton Mann

839
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Speaker 1: or sorry, the Manning passideau and an old tibodeau. So

840
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: we'll get your thoughts on that on the next episode.

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