WEBVTT - #106 - David Lee Murphy 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:02.600 All right, welcome to episode one oh six of the 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:05.400 Bobby Cast. A couple of things. First of all, thanks 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:08.800 to our sponsors Blue Apron and Quip. About to have 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:13.160 David Lee Murphy on. I'll say this that the last 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:16.120 episodes we've done, we've had this would be David Lee Murphy. 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.280 We've had Dave Haywood, Dave Barnes, and Dave Cohen. Somehow 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:23.040 we've gotten into this string of Dave's all accidental and 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:24.560 the only other ones we can think about bringing in. 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:27.960 We're miked what we have. David Nail, maybe we considered him. 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:31.680 I haven't seen him in a while. Any other Dave's Dave, 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:38.640 David Duke Company, David Dave Cool yea, yeah, so it's 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.480 been four daves man. But I was excited about David 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:43.280 Lee Murphy because the dust on the bottle and his 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.040 new song. Everything's gonna be all right, So we'll talk 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.080 about all that. He's got ninety cuts, he's got big, 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.920 huge hits that you wouldn't even know he wrote. I 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:53.720 do want to remind you to listen to Christian Bush's podcast. 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:56.840 It's called Geeking Out, where he brings on somebody that's 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.760 known for something else. He brought in the woman who 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:03.040 wrote and created Nashville, the TV show, and so first 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.520 she talks about that because she wrote Delman Louise as well. 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:08.240 Delman Louise was our first script ever. I didn't write 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:10.640 my first script until I was in my early thirties, 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.280 but that was Stilman Louise, so I kind of didn't 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:15.640 have a there was no going back from that. That 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:17.399 was your first one, that was my first one. So 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:19.640 you can listen to that podcast. But what Christian does? 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.560 He take someone's specialty like that and turns it into 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:24.760 what else do you love? And what she loves his music. 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:27.399 I opened this one right, excuse me, cooking, cooking, cooking, 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:29.840 I opened this one randomly today and I just saw 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:35.399 something called chocolate mayonnaise. Any desire to try that at all? 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.840 That's the opposite of like a Reese's peanut butter, right, 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.560 So you can check out Geeking Out with Christian Bush. Also, 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.120 the guys at Whiskey Riff have one called Whiskey Riff Raff. 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:47.360 And as we get into this, what I try to 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:50.760 do is I try to avoid any substance talk. Before 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.160 the podcast and Davidlee Murphy's sit down, we were just 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:56.480 briefly talking for a second. He's like, Hey, what's up 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.360 American idol, And that's why I think it starts with 0:01:58.400 --> 0:01:59.800 us talking about Right into it, I was like, hold 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.400 on to start the podcast. So he asked me about that, 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.000 and that's where it started. So welcome to episode one 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:08.240 oh six David Lee Murphy, which, by the way, he's 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:13.040 almost sixty years old. Man rocking it too. Got a 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.600 new song up. It's okay, davidly Murphy, episode one or 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:17.400 six of the Bobby Cast. Tell your friends about this 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:21.519 some police. You're here with David Lee Murphy and talking 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:25.320 about idle right before I came on. So what I'm 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:28.560 doing is they have twenty I'm the mentor to the 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.760 twenty four. So when they make it to the twenty four, 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.120 then they I guess I spent about an hour and 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.079 a half with them. You just do you. I don't 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:38.680 teach you how to sing, because you've seen me sing. 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:40.160 I'll teach them how to sing. I'll stay away from 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.480 that part of it because they have loose You're an 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:44.840 entertainer though, but and that's why they brought me, because 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.440 I do comedy and I do radio and TV and 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.959 music and so they wanted me since I already have 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:51.919 people teach them how to sing, they wanted somebody to 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.480 kind of say, hey, this is how you perform, this 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.560 is how you work. You work crowd, this is how 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.280 you do social see you, I've seen you work a 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.040 crowd before. That's all you can do, like fourteen fifteen 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.400 thousand people, that's all I know. I can't think, so 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.360 I have to do extra work. And you and I 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.519 actually spent time. I guess the last time we said 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.480 time together in any long amount was right us oide 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.239 of d C. We were in Northern Virginia. The band 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.560 just go because yeah, yeah, yeah, they went back to 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.679 the fifth They were good. Yeah, you were out riding 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:25.560 with Toby, right Toby Keith. I was and uh that 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:30.000 was like outside of d C Virginia, like northern Virginia. 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.960 And so I saw you on the side and I went, oh, man, 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.760 I want because just in passing we had said hello, 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:37.440 but I'd never stopped and be like, hey, I'm Bobby 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.280 because I don't bother you, because I feel like that's 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:43.119 Davidly Murphy. I don't bother Davidly Murphy man just hanging out. 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:45.600 And then we yeah, we sat and talked for a bit. 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.000 I was like, man, so I had a couple of 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:48.480 friends said, hey, do you know Dadily, They're all like, 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.360 I love You're well loved in town. Thank you. That's 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.000 awesome as a people they love right, people love writing 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.360 with you. You know, well, that's that's that's the best 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:02.240 compliment you could get. You know, just writing songs is 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:06.200 that's what we I mean, all of us love to 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.720 do that. And if when somebody says that, that's really cool. 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.120 We sat on the side and I was embarrassing. You 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.240 had to watch our band play at the time. You guys, 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:16.840 you I'll did a good job. I mean, you had 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:18.880 the crap. We weren't even a real band yet. There 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:20.880 was just two of us up there. We were struggling, 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.279 and I was thought, man, he's watching us and we're struggling. 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:27.600 I mean, to go up there with guitars in front 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:32.000 of that many people, you know, it was good. Let 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.760 me tell you what do your friends call you? They 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.800 call you David or David Lee. They call David David Lee. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:41.440 I mean, it just varies and depending up on the 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.839 time of the day or the night, it can vary, 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.640 you know. Let me tell you about this new song. 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:48.600 I heard it and now I've been saying on the radio. 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.359 Now I think it's the best song on the radio. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:05:00.200 I love this groove. She's readily as in my plastic Man, 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:04.400 I thank you kill me something good. I don't know 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:13.480 just what has been kicking behind you record this. We'd 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:17.320 recorded it probably a year and a half ago. I mean, 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:21.400 I'm not sure about the date wise, but it was 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:24.360 it's been at least a year and a half ago. 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:26.200 So did you have big plans for it when you 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.120 cut it? Did you think it'd be a single? Actually, 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:32.440 when we cut it, I didn't. I hadn't even really 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:36.599 considered it in my stash of songs, you know. I 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:42.120 had Kenny and I had picked out tenoral eleven songs 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:45.200 that we wanted to do, and uh, we had been 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:49.680 concentrating on those, and uh, we cut this song and 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:53.200 it just felt so good. And I actually Kenny was 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:56.719 working on a record, and uh, so I wasn't really 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:58.839 thinking of it for me at the time. And so 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.040 I get it, I see in it over to Kenny, 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.320 and uh, he was like, dam man, I love that song, 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.400 and he was he was gonna record it on his 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:12.160 last record, and then just for reasons whatever. You know, 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.720 there's just so many reasons when you pick songs on 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.120 a record. It just didn't really fit in with the 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:22.560 batch of songs that he had. So he goes, man, 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.440 this is not gonna be on this record, but I'd 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.479 like to keep it for the next one, because he 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:32.359 really loved the song. And uh so, you know, time 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.880 goes and it takes a little while for a record 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:40.839 to you know, materialize, and so somebody else was gonna 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.760 cut the song. Somebody else wanted that song to record, 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.440 and it was I remember, it's like a Saturday morning. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.560 I was sitting out in my backyard drinking coffee and 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.839 I called Kenny and I said, hey, man, somebody wants 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.880 that song. What should we do? And he goes, man, 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:55.600 hang onto that thing. And I said, well, what if 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.240 I put it on mine? He goes, oh, hell yeah, man, 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.599 put that on yours, you know, because he loved it 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.960 and he wanted he wanted somehow or the other too, 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.679 you know, still have something to do with that song. 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:13.440 And uh so we did it, and we decided, okay, 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.560 we're gonna do that. And graciously he came in and 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:20.480 sang the second verse, which like he he kills it. 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.640 He's a communicator, man. He he cuts through. And there 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:27.400 there's great guys you know, uh Tim and Kenny and 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.320 Garth and those guys. Man, they just they reach out 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:34.120 and grab you, you know, with their voice and and uh, 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:38.360 he comes in there. Man, I just he he does it. 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:47.040 Everything's gonna be. He's gonna be. Well's Kenny, Buddy and 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:51.280 Chris Stevens and such a great bad as got to 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:56.080 world nothing. Don't go getting that Dannic good. It ain't 0:07:56.200 --> 0:08:04.400 words speeling your dream I have. I've just I've been 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:09.240 doing it acoustically and uh it's you know, you don't 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:12.600 have the you know what that's like. And uh, what's 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:14.960 really fun is just over the last couple of weeks 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.600 people have really been singing it back to me. And 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:23.920 we did a show Thursday night in Almaha, Nebraska, and 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.520 actually I'll show you the little clip of it. Somebody 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.760 took a video clip of It's really cool. People are 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.080 really singing it back to me. I love it. It's again, 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:34.840 I don't say this to your face. I've been saying 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.199 it for weeks on the radio. It's my favorite song 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.640 on the radio. Thank you from the Texture of the song, 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.160 to the groove, to the words, the whole thing. I 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.080 appreciate it. I can't tell you how much fun we're having. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.199 I mean, we're really having a ball. So what's the 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.240 deal with the record is? Are you Kenny doing all 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.560 the songs together on the album now? Just we're just 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:58.480 doing this one Kenny, Kenny, Um, I'll tell you how 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.720 I'll happen. I you know, over the years, I've sent 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:05.080 Kenny's recorded a bunch of my songs and uh from 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:07.000 living in Fast Forward and bar at the End of 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:10.480 the World, Pirate Flag. Sorry about that big old peepop 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:14.959 there our studios put together like a nickel. Yeah, we 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:19.440 we take that as a badge of honor. But I've 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:24.640 been sending Kenny songs um And one night I sent 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.720 him this one particular song that's on my record, and 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.720 he called me back and he goes, man, I freaking 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:37.480 love that song. And he goes, I would cut that. 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.160 He goes, but I'm He goes, I don't want to 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.120 ask you something. He goes, you you sent me all 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.160 this stuff. He goes, what if if we go in 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.840 the studio and we pick a bunch of songs and 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.640 me and Buddy produces album. We'll put it out. We'll 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:55.640 just put it out on you and we'll we'll do 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.720 whatever we gotta do. He goes, I think people should 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:01.520 hear these songs, And of course I did a few 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.880 little back flips, you know, because I was like, how, 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.280 I mean when Kenny, When Kenny's like, hey man, why 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.920 don't you do that? It's like, yeah, that that was 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.839 really cool. So I asked that about Kenny because I 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:13.640 remember when the announcement was that you guys were doing 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.880 a record together, and so that means that he was 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:22.440 producing the record, involved in the record somehow. Yeah, yeah, 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:26.520 he produced it and he just got the whole In fact, 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.160 he said something that we had a number one party 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:33.839 for until it's gone, and he said something about it then, 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.200 and we had been kind of keeping it a secret 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:41.200 and uh, because we didn't know exactly what what we 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:42.920 were going to do with it at that time period. 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:47.240 But we we had we've had so much fun with it, 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:51.160 just picking the songs, going in, going in and recording, 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:56.000 doing over dub, singing this stuff, mixing master and you 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.760 know that whole process. Is it crazy to put So 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:00.720 you're playing the song in the crowd now, singing it back. 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.760 But you have from you know when I was a teenager, 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.760 one of the most anthemic country songs period with dust 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.880 on the Bottle. People have to scream that song back 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.240 at you, right, we had well Friday night. What we 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:20.600 did was, I mean, people have to that makes me 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.120 feel good to still here. That does it? Yeah, so 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.959 you're not tired of it never. I mean I can 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:28.840 play this today and I do at times on my show. 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.480 Just play it and everybody in the room goes, oh, yeah, 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.200 there's still you have one of the songs that have 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.960 that have twenty years. Yeah, thank god, man. I mean 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.680 the I remember as a kid growing up and almost thought, 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.400 I want I want one of those songs that like 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:46.360 help me make it through the night and for the 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.880 good times to one of those old classic kind of 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.880 Christopherson or one of those guys who read those songs 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.960 that you know, I wanted one of those songs that 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.920 stuck around for a long time. And uh, I think 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.840 dust on the Bottom by I think it is you 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:06.559 wrote that by yourself? Do you? Is it one of 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.560 those songs? Because I know as a songwriter and you 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.880 have I think I read some like ninety cuts in 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:14.000 the last X amount of years. But and every song 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.440 isn't remembered where they were, and you have to start 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:18.640 creating a story because people always want to know where 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.200 were you? But you wrote that by yourself, that being 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:24.480 the biggest song, like what do you know? Vividly? You do? 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.040 Really like you really do. Yeah. I was in Ashland 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.079 City and I had a little house in n Ashland 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:33.200 City and I lived, um I lived in I lived 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.320 on Blair Boulevard first when I moved to Nashville over 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:40.640 near the Vandy area near Music Row, and then uh, 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.640 I was living in like a garage apartment. And then 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.160 I found this little bitty house out in Nashtan City, 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:49.480 the settle ten Reef House, and um I moved out 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.520 there and I lived out there for almost ten years. 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.520 And I wrote that at the kitchen table, and and 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.920 we had started recording the out of the Bang album. 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:03.600 And I remember the first morning we cult like out 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.960 with a Bang party crowd and Can't Turn It Off, 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.720 which were three songs off that with a Bang album, 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.960 And I was really excited. I was really happy. It 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:16.360 was it was Tuesday morning and I got up and 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.160 I was drinking coffee and I was getting ready to 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.400 come to town, and we were probably gonna start it. 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.800 You know, I was probably gonna get there at ten 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:29.240 o'clock and you know, you know, start cutting again because 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:34.360 we had four days to record the record. And I 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.520 just started tearing through dust on the bottle. It was 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:41.880 just like coming out and um and I had basically 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.240 both verses in the course, and I called Tony Brown 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.120 up and I had one of those remember those phone 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:52.440 cords that were like that went like twenty feet. I 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.360 had one of those, and I pulled Mike. My kitchen 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.080 phone was on the wall, and I pulled that over 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.400 on my table and I said, Tony, check us out, man. 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.320 I said this this might be a hit. And I 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:06.280 played him Drio Williams lived down a dirt road and 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.240 I played him mad and he goes, oh, man, we 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.920 gotta cut that. And I didn't have the bridge yet. 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:13.680 So I had the music for the bridge, but I 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:17.760 didn't have the bridge lyrics yet, and so he goes, 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.000 damn man, And so I go in the studio and 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.360 we didn't cut it that day. We cut it the 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.200 next day. So um, that gave me time to go 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:29.440 home and figure out what the bridge lyrics were. But 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.520 you can still hear the strings kind of squeaking my 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:37.040 acoustic strings on the record, because you know, we cut 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.160 those things and that was before pro tools and all 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:43.120 that stuff, and it was it was magic when we 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.400 cut it. I think everybody it just felt like magic. 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.680 It was just like one of those when lightning just 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:53.040 boom comes down. I think everybody in the room. Uh. 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:54.760 And a lot of the guys that played on that 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.640 record played on my new stuff too. Yeah, all right, 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:00.600 let's let me do this so I can listening to this. 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:04.320 You've heard me talk about Blue Apron. 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I mean it 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.040 was tough. I mean it was during that time period 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:33.320 people were going there you maybe you should, you know, 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:37.200 think about doing something ill, you know. And I actually 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.240 lived from where when where we're sitting right here, I 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:47.280 probably lived two miles and but um, anyway, I had 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:51.360 ten years of just um trying to write songs. I 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.720 had a Reba McIntyre cut, I had a Doug Stone cut, 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:58.440 Dobie Gray cut one of my songs, The Man's Brothers. 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.920 I had just a few, you know, little cuts here 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.720 and there, but nothing that really was a big hit. 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:08.040 Were those cuts so substantial enough? And records were bought 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:12.280 to actually keep you paying your mortgage? I'm yeah, well 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:16.160 I didn't have a mortgage. Your rent, yeah, keep paying 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:20.240 really kept me playing my rent. But no, it wasn't enough. 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:22.240 It wasn't enough. I mean, now, if that would have 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.760 been on like a Garth record or Alabama or something 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.520 like that, yeah, but those records at the time, it 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.320 just it wasn't enough. It was enough to keep you 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:36.199 kind of going, keep you just to keep you, you know, 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:40.919 living the lifestyle of I'm a country music songwriter. What 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.200 was only growing up with you? What was always home 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.960 like in Illinois? It was great. It was small town USA, 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:52.600 you know, Um, it was small. Um. I grew up 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.720 in a small town called here in Illinois that about 0:17:55.840 --> 0:18:00.920 you know, eight or nine thousand people and just like 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:04.320 so many small towns across the South and the Midwest 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.919 and the North, and you know all those little towns 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:12.119 with downtowns and dairy queen's and you know, so you're 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.399 a Cardinal fan. Yeah, so you live that part of 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:16.600 Illinois because I'm a huge Cubs fan. But you know 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:21.680 there's that Illinois part that's still Missouri is oh yeah, well, uh, 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:25.359 there's a line in Illinois that is Cardinal fans or 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.600 Cub fans. Like my father in law is a huge 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:31.919 Cub fan. But the thing about Cardinal and Cub fans 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.159 is there's nothing more fun than to go, like to 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.679 a St. Louis Cardinal Chicago Cub game in St. Louis 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:42.320 or at Rigley Field. And I've been, I've been at both, 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.840 and uh it's fun, man, And it's a good hearted rivalry. 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.000 I mean it's like the girl might have on the 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:52.160 Cardinal shirt and a guy might have the Cub shirt 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.080 on and everybody's sitting around a table at at a 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.119 place having a good time. You know, it's it's a 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.959 fun game to go to. I'm a huge Cubs fan. 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:02.800 I've been to a bunch of those games in both places. 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:04.960 It's not like the Yankees and Red Sox where you 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.560 worry about getting beat up. You leave, you go, you 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:09.919 go with In the Boston hat to Yankees game, you 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.600 might get jumped. You probably will get jumped. I think 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:17.159 a lot of people may they're listening to this may 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.120 not know all the songs you've written, and holy crap. 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:22.880 So did you ever just go you know, I'm gonna 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:26.639 put the artist stuff on hold consciously and just focus 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:30.800 on writing. Was that a thing? It wasn't on purpose, 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:33.159 but it kind of turned into that. I mean it 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:37.280 got to that and um, and then after I started 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.399 doing that, I just I wanted to just the the 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.879 lifestyle of being a songwriter is is pretty nice. What 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.399 was the first big cut that you had out that 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:51.560 we'll go single that wasn't your voice? The first one 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.880 that comes to mind, the first, like the biggest one, 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:59.359 I would say living in Fast Forward and um, I 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:10.720 have it right here, Basketball Star. So when I said 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:12.520 that in your mind, that's the first big one to you, 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:14.199 the first one that was the first one that was 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:18.400 just like the first one that just like I remember, 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:24.199 I was playing out at the Opry and one of 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:27.600 the guys from Sony or whatever label it was that 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:30.359 Kenny was on at the time came up and said, hey, man, 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:32.639 if you heard your Living in fast forward cut? And 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.520 I go, no, I haven't. I can't wait to hear it. 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.080 He goes, come on out, I'll played, I'll played in 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.719 my car and he played me that cut and I 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:46.240 was like, holy crap, man, I mean that thing rocked 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:50.040 better than well. First of all, we didn't do a 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:53.159 demo on that song, and when you do a demo, 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:59.520 um you basically cut the song. So whoever is listening 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:01.280 to produce, So as the artist, the A and R 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:03.679 people at the label, did they hear that song? And 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:06.160 they go okay, so and tell he could do this song. 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:11.000 And on that particular song, I was writing with Rivers, 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:15.680 Rutherford and uh Rivers and I had written all day 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:20.000 long writing another song, and uh, he goes, man, I 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:22.480 gotta go, I got we gotta get out of here. 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:26.040 About thirty minutes I gotta go meet with Buddy Cannon 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:30.040 because I'm gonna play some songs for Kenny. And I go, 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:32.600 all right, So we started, we started wrapping up, and 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:35.040 I go, hey, man, check out this idea and just 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:38.719