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We just watched the best 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: finals game we've had in a minute, and I mean 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: maybe the best playoff game so far this year. We've 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: got the entire crew here, and we've got Josiah the Legend. 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: We've got Tyler aka Dragonfly Jones. We've got John aka 24 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: Jethro Jenkins, and we got Zach and we got myself 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: GUARDI b aka Mike and uh, guys, what a freaking game. 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: Like We've had to sit through some garbage this playoffs, 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: and I feel like these are the games that make 28 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: you feel not maybe not smart, but not stupid about 29 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: being a basketball. 30 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Yes, it was. It was good as hell. 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: Like we were talking like the last time, like when 32 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 3: the hell are the savvy veterans? 33 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: You know, when are though the Warriors gonna win a 34 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: game with their heads? 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: And we saw that this game because the fucking Celtics 36 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: shit it all over themselves that fourth. It was a 37 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: fucking dirpof We saw why these are the smart, savvy 38 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: veterans and at their six finals and these are the 39 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: young bucks say on their first it was just put 40 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: on peer display. The Southern's had a chance to put 41 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: this fucking series away. You cannot play with the Warriors 42 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: like that. You cannot have the Warriors still hanging around 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: because now that y'all can get your ass with Game five. 44 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: Y'all lose about like fifteen Game five. 45 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: Bro. 46 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 4: We all know that, right we do. 47 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 5: In San City, the Warriors were savvy by benching Draymond Green. 48 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 6: Let's call it what it is. 49 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 5: I mean, he came out, he said, oh, that was 50 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 5: one of the worst games I've ever had, and followed 51 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 5: it up with something very close to whatever the worst 52 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 5: game of his career was. I think he's still helpful defensively, 53 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 5: but wo tough one. 54 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 7: So first and foremost is Friday six ten. So I 55 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 7: just want to wish a happy Hood Day to everybody 56 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 7: who celebrates. Everybody who's observing this tremendous holiday. Reci peace 57 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 7: and niph The crypt I was over at Gilbert Arena's house. 58 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 7: I was getting turned up. I am an neebrater right now. 59 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 7: I'm not gonna lie. Front was again hoping for a 60 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 7: Warriors defeat. Celtics had them in their clutches. But we 61 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 7: talked about this last show. We did experiences where experience 62 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 7: comes into play. Have some Warriors fans that were in 63 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 7: their feelings a little bit about Lejetta you saying that 64 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 7: the Warriors have more experience one in particular, tell they 65 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 7: don't have anything else. I mean, we have a small show. 66 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 7: We can't talk about all the great things they have, 67 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 7: but they do have Wardell Stefan Curry, and that man 68 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 7: is gonna take that Finals MVP with him wherever he's going, 69 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 7: I'm gonna offer him some. 70 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: Corn bread if the Warriors do win. 71 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 7: You know, I just don't think this Celtics squad, this 72 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 7: is the game where this is honestly what it looks like. 73 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 4: It could be the series. 74 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 7: And I hate to say that with it being two 75 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 7: to two, but this squad, you know, they're riding at 76 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 7: two to one. They have the chance to go up 77 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 7: three to one now and it's its gonna be a 78 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 7: rap in San Francisco if they can get that for 79 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 7: Game five now, Dragonfly, like you said, they're gonna get 80 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 7: their asses smacked. I feel like we all know that 81 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 7: to be true. We'll see if they bounce back to 82 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 7: six and this goes seven. Then once it's seven, it's 83 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 7: a crapshoot. We saw Lebron Raymond James prove that in 84 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 7: twenty sixteen. We in the scented from the heavens to 85 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 7: defeat the greatest team in NBA history and make himself 86 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 7: the greatest basketball player of all times, but Draymond. It's 87 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 7: tough to watch and I was actually with Gill Gill's 88 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 7: crib Draymond DM GIL. A couple of minutes after the 89 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 7: game ended, Gil had some interesting commentary after Game three 90 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 7: base He said that this series is gonna be really 91 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 7: banking on Draymond. If Draymond delivers it, does what he's 92 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 7: supposed to do, the words will win. If not, they won't. 93 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 7: But salute to Draymond. He's a real wing. He's a legend. 94 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 7: I know he's a part of the Volume Sports family 95 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 7: and doing everything. And if a man wants to podcast, 96 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 7: god damn it, let that man podcast. 97 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: I thought this was America people. It takes, if it 98 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: takes forty from Steph for them to win, I don't 99 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: know if i'd say the series is always and. 100 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: Four with seven made three pointers, the first time anyone's 101 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: ever done that, and the third oldest player in NBA 102 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: history to score forty points in a finals game after 103 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: MJ and Brown. 104 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: And Wiggins had seventeen and seventeen. Tatum stunk it up. 105 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown was less than good. He wasn't bad, He 106 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: wasn't bad, but he wasn't good. You know what I'm saying, Like, 107 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think that in the fourth 108 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: quarter they just hit no shots. And Tyler we talked 109 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: about that. I mean, you said you brought it up, 110 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: but we had talked about it before. I was like, 111 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, I brought up the fact that you can't 112 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: go out not letting Taylum and Jalen Brown fucking finish games, right, 113 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: you were saying that. You know, Mark Swart and hohrfe 114 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: for were the people that they went to. Then Bro 115 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: they when Jalen and Tatum had options, had had the opportunities, 116 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: they blew it. The Celtics couldn't hit ship. This is 117 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: the first fourth quarter they lost. 118 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: Wasn't it. 119 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: And in the series I think. 120 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 2: They were so they were plus forty in the fourth 121 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: quarter in the first three games of the series. But 122 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: you know D'Antoni had seven seconds or less, Phil Jackson 123 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: and text Winner had the triangle offense, and the Celtics 124 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: run the fucking brain fart offense like it's just is 125 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: what they do. They do it every game. There's a 126 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: stretch every game from the from the four to sixteen 127 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 2: Mark Jalen MISSI three Tatum miss a three smart miss 128 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: of three, smart miss of three. Coort for MISSI three 129 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: three the buckets? 130 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: How did they win last game? How did they win 131 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: last game? At the bucket? Realizing they're bigger and stronger, 132 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: they went did the opposite today when it mattered, Why 133 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: the fuck would. 134 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: You do that? 135 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: Try to outshoot Steph Curry? Then, motherfucker is a devil. 136 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: We've seen it. You're not gonna win that battle, you 137 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: feel me. 138 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: It's crazy, like like we're talked about, that's the trap 139 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 3: that a lot of Golden State's opponents fall into. Like 140 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 3: Golden State's best attribute on defense is their offense, because 141 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: they'll hit three threes, you know, back to back to back, 142 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: to the opponent panics like, okay, we gotta get in 143 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 3: the shootout now, and then they're putting up terrible shots. 144 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: Next thing you know, it's a sixteen four runs right, 145 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: Like we see that's happen all the time with the Warriors. 146 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 3: Their office is their best attribute for their defense, and 147 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: we saw that tonight too, And. 148 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: When they got close, it was like, we're down three, 149 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: let's shoot the three. No nigga, no nigga, you can't match, 150 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: you can't match. The Warriors in three point shooting. It's 151 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: not rapping now when Steph is on one, bro just 152 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: run yo oh, there's five minutes left. All of a sudden, 153 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: everybody wants to get it all back at once, and 154 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: that's what young teams do. But I think we've seen 155 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: them because they they look like the greatest team in 156 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: the world at times and then they look like can't 157 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: do right at toms. This is the first time it's 158 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: happened in the fucking fourth quarter, you know. 159 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: What I mean. 160 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: And that's why I think this this series is going thirteen. 161 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 8: Ye. 162 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 7: The unfortunate part about watching this joint now is that 163 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 7: there has to be a winner. Somebody's gona win a 164 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 7: championship from these two still helping they a buffalos, still 165 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 7: hoping we getting stand this out somehow, just eighty five 166 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 7: other times and they just call it a draw and 167 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 7: neither team wins. Yeah, but just it's not gonna happen. 168 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 7: One of these teams is gonna be victorious. Words, fan's 169 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 7: gonna be talking big shit. A lot of them are 170 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 7: only fifteen years old, can't fight, so it's not a 171 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 7: big deal. But it's nonetheless just to hear that annoying 172 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 7: steps ago. It's just like, come on, dog. 173 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: He had two points like for like the majority of 174 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, and I thought they were gonna lose, 175 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: and it was like back and forth for a second, 176 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: and then he just went off and I think he 177 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: had like seven or eight in those last four or 178 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: five minutes whatever. But it would have been hell of 179 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: fun the fourth quarter. And he's going crazy the first 180 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: three quarters and blows it in the fourth. That's what 181 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: I was hoping for it just for the fun. But 182 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: Up is special, bro, He's special. He has he's he's 183 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: he's had his down moments, but that's just basketball. But 184 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: when that mother is all one, I don't think there's 185 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: more fun basketball on the planet that I've ever seen. 186 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 5: I just don't understand how Clay's still getting Jordan Poole's 187 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 5: minutes because Clay had eighteen tonight in forty one minutes. 188 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 5: Jordan Poole had fourteen and twenty one minutes. 189 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 6: And I get it. 190 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 5: Jordan Pool is a little bit of a liability in 191 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 5: some of these games. Defensively, it kind of looks like 192 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 5: he gets bullied. It sort of looks like Clay has. 193 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: Some big moments. Officially, too, had some big stills, you. 194 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 5: Know, Clay on this one steal two blocks. 195 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: And Clay had to start that seventeen to three run. 196 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: He had a one man he was beat to the 197 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: basket close out on Tatum. That shot stripped the cause 198 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: a miss lay up that kind of helped jumpstart that. 199 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: And I do think it's I think you hit it 200 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: on the head exactly. It's just you know Clay will 201 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: make a three in the fourth when you need him to, 202 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: but you also know Jordan Poole will do something really 203 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 2: stupid defensively and immediately turned the ball over on the 204 00:08:58,720 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: other end after doing. 205 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 5: I think that this, I think you need the scoring. 206 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 5: And like I think to John to your point, like 207 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 5: can Steph give you forty the rest of the way? Maybe, 208 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 5: I mean he's he gonna be sorery on the foot 209 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 5: or whatever after this game. 210 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 6: I don't really know. 211 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 5: I don't know how serious that injury actually was, but 212 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 5: like someone needs to score a little bit to help 213 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 5: Steph out. And I think you're more likely to get 214 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 5: a flurry of buckets from Jordan Poole than Clay at 215 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 5: this point. And I'm not saying take Clay's minutes, but 216 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 5: like play Clay thirty five, play Jordan Pool twenty six, 217 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 5: not twenty one and forty, you know, And that's my thought. 218 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: Steph didn't even get an MRI on that ankle, so, 219 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: I mean on that foot. So it's not that big 220 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: of a deal. 221 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 6: But the fans will tell you what corse, you know 222 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 6: what I mean, of. 223 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: Course, of course, but Steph, I mean Clay strips Tatum 224 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: going to the bucket in the fourth he stood up 225 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: Jayalen Brown at one point. You know, big difference in moments, 226 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: but like for the first half, I mean, he was 227 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: whatever a lot of minutes. I really, I truly wonder. 228 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all have the next year. Like I just 229 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: I truly wonder. How the fuck do you defend keeping 230 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: Clay would doing what he's doing. He's having a great series, 231 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, you know what I'm saying, a solid series. 232 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: Seventeen rebounds, seventeen and seventeen in a must win game, yo, 233 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: And also all those damn offensive rebounds and footbacks he had, 234 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: those are extremely important. You're gonna just get rid of 235 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: that ship. What he's doing, making winning plays, you know, like, 236 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: and Clay is like you know I and you want 237 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: to pay him forty mili is. I just I just 238 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: don't understand how that's gonna make sense. 239 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: You still, you still got to keep play a round 240 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: just for the possible for the vibes. No, no, no, no, 241 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: not for the for the possibility that he's eighty percent 242 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 3: of the player that he was once. 243 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: I mean still have to brow the day. We'll find 244 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: out next year because you have another another four years. 245 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: So if this is the thing, Wiggans is twenty twenty, 246 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: twenty sixty, just on twenty seven physical prime, you don't 247 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: have it till like around twenty seven twenty nine to 248 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: twenty seven twenty nine. Yeah, yeah, something like that. You know, 249 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: I think Clay is thirty. 250 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: Two, but he's Canadian. He's Canadian. 251 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: That's fine, we'll take I'm saying, well, just three months 252 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: off because he's from America's hat. 253 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 4: And Canadian dollars. We need the perversion, right. 254 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: But two Jordan bolands twenty two, so I mean we 255 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: saw Wiggins making those. You know, Jordan Poole being young, 256 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,239 Speaker 1: he has a huge upside. 257 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: He looks like he could be that that type of 258 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: player Clay was at one point. Yeah, I think the 259 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: Warriors are I think the Warriors would keep him around 260 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: for the vibes. 261 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: That's what they're gonna do, but that's not gonna not 262 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: gonna help them wait in the future. 263 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: Well look, I mean I I had mixed feelings about this, 264 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: but like as a Lakers fan, this happened with Kobe 265 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: right like late in his career, is like, are we 266 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: gonna more? Are we mortgaging everything to keep Kobe? And 267 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: the answer was yes, and there would have been. They 268 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: would never have recovered emotionally had they not done it. 269 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: Fucking Kobe, though they love similar Stephan Clay up there. 270 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know the c a statue, clinkton a statue, right, 271 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: I saw Chase right. 272 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: Oh for so for so, but he hate no motherfucking Kobe. 273 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: Agree with you? You know what I mean? 274 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 2: I agree with you, but I don't. I don't see 275 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: any world in which Clay is suiting up for him. 276 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 7: Do we get Clay any any love though for being 277 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 7: the defensive juggernaut? Obviously, I know he's coming off with 278 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 7: two miss seasons and all that, but this was a 279 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 7: guy who was tasking years previous with having to guard 280 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 7: the best guard on the other team and still expected 281 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 7: to get buckets on the other side, Steph is improved 282 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 7: by as a defender. Steph tries hard on defense. So 283 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 7: I'm not here to knock or criticize Steph. But Steph 284 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 7: is also get cooked. You know, he gets cooked often. 285 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 7: I know you have the stat the first two games, 286 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 7: but I'm just being real. 287 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 2: They have the conductor and not why an't they run that? 288 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: No more? 289 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: They stilled with switching. 290 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 7: So my question is always, if Clay was allowed to 291 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 7: be the defensive liability that Steph is and just focus 292 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 7: on offense, would he be at an equivalent rate. I 293 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 7: don't know the answer to that question. I'm not trying 294 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 7: to start no ship with the Internet Warriors fans. 295 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 4: I'm in la. 296 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 7: If you don't want to fight me, pull up. It's 297 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 7: all good. I'm a knee braid and I have a 298 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 7: little bit a little bit of. 299 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: That, but it's something. 300 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 7: But imagine now, Clay every everything, every series. 301 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: I wish I could use this segue right there, but 302 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: we do have. 303 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 7: But but every series having to guard the best guard, 304 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 7: having having to be that guy on defense and then 305 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 7: coming in dropping sixty on eleven dribbles, just shit, that's 306 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 7: unheard of. 307 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 4: And I was with Matt Barnes. 308 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 7: Tonight, I was with Jared Jeffries, I was with Gilbert 309 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 7: Arenas and one of the things they all were talking about, 310 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 7: and I asked this question on the internet. Everybody thought 311 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 7: it was an easy one, but I said better shooter 312 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 7: Steph or Clay, And we had guys in there saying 313 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 7: that that Clay is comparable to Steph. Obviously the numbers 314 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 7: may not show it based on what he does, but 315 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 7: he has to put that effort and energy on defense 316 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 7: as well and then come back on offense and try 317 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 7: to keep up. 318 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: It's something that should be considered. 319 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 7: But I listened to guys who are one hundred millionaires 320 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 7: and have way more money than me over Twitter fodder. 321 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 4: So that's just how I get down. 322 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to take to say Clay 323 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: is the second best shooter of all time. 324 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. 325 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: Like I don't think that's how to take it all. 326 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: He probably get my vote for that, and and and 327 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 3: what and see your credit. What you're saying confuses me 328 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: so much because usually when guys are coming back from injuries, 329 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: the defense is where they take that hit, not the offense. 330 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: But it's been the inverse with Clay, right like he 331 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: sees still somewhat of a great defender, still a really 332 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: good defender, but he's not the score that he once 333 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: was in it's confusing. 334 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: He averaged we averaged twenty a game this season, so 335 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: he still was getting buckets, but like, it's not he 336 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: doesn't have those same flurries. And your jumper comes from 337 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: your legs, and when you've been gone for two years 338 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: and your legs are cooked, the jumper goals with it. 339 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 5: You feel me, I think it's fair to give Clay 340 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 5: another year to see how cooked or uncooked it is. 341 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 6: For sure, he is thirty two. 342 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 5: Those are nearly surgeries to have Kevin Duranton to a 343 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 5: freak for coming back from one of those surgeries, so 344 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 5: it's not easy. I've told the story before. When I 345 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 5: was at ACU, we played Clay and he was suspended 346 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 5: for the first half of the game because he had 347 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 5: got caught with weed dish car and I remember we 348 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 5: did all the. 349 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 6: Scouting for Clay Thompson in that game. 350 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 5: Was tragic, and I was like, why are we wasting 351 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 5: our time scouting Clay. 352 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 6: He's only going to play the second half. What's the matter? 353 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 5: We're fourteen or fifteen and a half time Clay comes 354 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 5: in drops twenty nine. 355 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 6: In the second half we won by one point. 356 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 5: At that moment, I was like, this guy is arguably 357 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 5: one of the best players I ever watched in college, 358 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 5: and he's been an unbelievable NBA player, And I think 359 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 5: you make a good point, like he's probably sacrificed in 360 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 5: the scoring, and I think he should chase the bag 361 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 5: like whatever the Warriors, if they low ball, you leave 362 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 5: like Broll get all that money come to the Lakers. 363 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I don't like Clay. I love You're 364 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: speaking a decision for the future, you know. 365 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 7: But the Warriors are franchised, But the Warriors are franchised. 366 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 7: They don't get down like that. Then I'm not saying 367 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 7: Warriors Warriors this decision. Same thing with with Kobe getting 368 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 7: that forty five forty eight million dollars his last two years. 369 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 4: The Lakers, they know the objects of that. 370 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 7: How that will make them look the free agents down 371 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 7: the road and it will be a less desirable location. 372 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 7: Whether that's actually true or not, it is neither here 373 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 7: nor there. But I can understand their lodging and thing 374 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 7: in that jo I'm in the same boat as you. 375 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 7: It's like, look Clay, like, you know, like father Tim 376 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 7: has essentially told us that we need to rock with 377 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 7: these younger dudes. We got Mapel Jordan, we got Jordan Poole, 378 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 7: who's literally come to his like ultimately we could deal 379 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 7: you and James Wiseman and get somebody else in here 380 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 7: who's another fucking you know problem. 381 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: Like you know, these are things we you know, we 382 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: need to consider. But I don't think that they will 383 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 4: do that. But I've been wrong before. 384 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: Now, if a. 385 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: Shore goes back to the opics, like in their fucking 386 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: sixty seventy year history, they've only been a coveted free 387 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: agent destination like the last five or six years, right, 388 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 3: they do not want to fuck that up. You know 389 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, And shitting on Clay and you know, 390 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: Box the Clay shit up and giving play the boot 391 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: will for sure shit on that to a lot of people. 392 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: Bob Myers has always been out front about that, like 393 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: we are aware of how much he sacrifices and what 394 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: he could be if he wasn't playing with all this 395 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: other shit. 396 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: So I don't think that happens. 397 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: I do want to talk about, though, the more immediate 398 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: legacy talk with the Warriors is I mean they went 399 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: on that run because they put Draymond on the bench 400 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: and the Celtics had to guard five guys with five 401 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: guys instead of four guys with five guys. It's a 402 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: lot harder for a defense to do when there's five 403 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: guys that are willing to end to play with a 404 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: few all attempt and Lisa assaulted Zach and I were 405 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: talking before you guys hop gone. She asked a question 406 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: of Steph that was like a knife between the ribs. 407 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: She asked Steph about Draymond getting benched. It was like, 408 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: were you impressed with his leadership and being willing to 409 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 2: get for being. 410 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 4: It was. 411 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: Do you think we're gonna get something drastic? 412 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 7: Like? 413 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure they're starting, but do you think 414 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 2: we're gonna see like a major minutes drop? Do you 415 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: think they're going to actually push their chips in on 416 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 2: forcing the Celtics to defend their whole lineup and reduce 417 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: his minutes for the next game? 418 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 4: What happened to Draymond? 419 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 7: Does anybody know I'm this the mainor drop thirty two 420 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 7: in a game seven with like eleven for sixteen from 421 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 7: the field, six for whatever it was from three point line. 422 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 4: And is a dude. 423 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 7: When you're watching this game, he deliberately passes up shot 424 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 7: attempts now like he goes out of his. 425 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: Way happening to Draymond. I think this is the reason 426 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: is I feel like you remem remember whatever we thought 427 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: that the shot attempts were gonna come from Clay, and 428 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: Clay was like, now it ain't affected me, and he 429 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: was right. He still got a shot attempts. They didn't 430 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: need any offense from Draymond. So Draymond focused on the 431 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: things that Draymond could do for them to win, and 432 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: it helped him win when they had KD. Now the 433 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: didn't even be the old Draymond. That motherfucker ain't shot 434 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: a jumper in off season in fucking four years. You 435 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: feel me, that motherfucker? 436 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,239 Speaker 2: You see you see that, bro? 437 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: You saw what he shot the three. You saw what 438 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: he shot the three? 439 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: You saw it. 440 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: How long did he take? How long did you think 441 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: before you go? He like he forgot how to shoot 442 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: them things? You feel me like? So, I mean, hey, 443 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: like Draymond, Hall of Famer, great player. I love the 444 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: podcast all that shit Draymond. At the same Draymond he 445 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: was because of those reasons, and they need him to 446 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: be that person right now. They got him to be 447 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: that much. 448 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: Do you think Steve Kerr will run something different out 449 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: there the way he did in the fourth quarter, because 450 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 2: there's just absolutely no doubt that that's what flipp things 451 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 2: in there. 452 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: They looked, and they looked, They looked way better when 453 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: Draymond was a little seat. 454 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: Well see, there was a part of me that legit 455 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: thought he was not coming in the rest of the game. 456 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: Yep, me too. 457 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 3: There was a part of me that thought that, And 458 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know if that's gonna if 459 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: that's how it's gonna because if you bench dray mom, 460 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: with the season on the line, the finals on the line, 461 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: championship on the line, you're saying he's done in that town, bro, 462 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? You are basically sending the 463 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 3: message that that you are you are no longer you know, 464 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 3: and an attribute to this team. But did y'all see 465 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 3: the tweet from Draymond's mom who was like, I don't 466 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 3: know who this is, This ain't my vebite. 467 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: Well we gotta figure this out. Did y'all see mom? 468 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: Agree? 469 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 7: You used to follow me, and I think she realized 470 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 7: I'm a Lebron stand and had to jump ship. 471 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 2: I ain't want to tweet it out there. 472 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 3: I ain't want to retweet out because people are fucking 473 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: dickheads and I don't know what. 474 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: You're not want people coming down on somebody's mama. But yeah, 475 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: I'll show to show you all the textan. 476 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, he didn't score, and he hasn't scored much in 477 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 5: this series in general. He's still had nine boards, eight 478 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 5: assists for steals. 479 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 6: Like, that's not that bad a night. 480 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 5: I think the hard thing we talked about this on 481 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 5: this in the on the Twitter spaces at half time 482 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 5: was like in those Lebron series, he's for those four 483 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 5: years that they met head to head or three years 484 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 5: whatever it was, there were moments where the ball gets 485 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 5: whipped around, ends up in Draymond's hands and he either 486 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 5: hits a three or some backbreaking shot like free throw 487 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 5: line extended, and you're like fuck like and Draymond's you know, 488 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 5: pounding his chess on the back and John to your point, 489 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 5: that's probably it, Like it genuinely is probably like this 490 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 5: guy hit a step back in such a way that 491 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 5: he hasn't really been asked to do this. He put 492 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 5: all the He's put all the eggs and like, I'm 493 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 5: gonna rebound, I'm gonna get steals, I'm gonna be a 494 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 5: good leader out there and scoring his kind of by 495 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 5: the way side. 496 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 1: But did you did you see him on defense though? 497 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: Did y'all look at him on defense? Did y'all watch 498 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: him on defense? 499 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 500 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: Jalen Jalen as light up whenever you know what I'm saying. 501 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: So that's the thing, like Draymond the quarterback of the defense, 502 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: and I know, being vocal and all that ship and 503 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: let people know that all that matters, bro, But you 504 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: also can't You cannot be the like a god Teeria 505 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: defender and stupi a QB. You can't be Foo on 506 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: the defensive end when that's how you, you know, madeor 507 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: name in the league. 508 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: Well, do I have permission to do some super geeky 509 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: basketball shit real quick? Because I agree with John. I 510 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: don't think at all that Game five is an ass 511 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: slapping for the like. I think that what's fun to 512 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: me about these next two or three games is I 513 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if we get road win road wind 514 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: to right right, like it's so razor thin in terms 515 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: of how they put it together. But let's just look 516 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: at the box score. I think they're gonna need. I 517 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: don't think they're holding the Celtics in ninety seven points 518 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 2: consistently over the next three games. So they're gonna need 519 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 2: probably at least or more scoring than what they got tonight. 520 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: You cannot mark down Steph Curry for forty three points. 521 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 4: That's right. 522 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: You can't do that for three more games. 523 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: When is Tatum gonna be Tatum? He has been Tatum 524 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: once the entire series. 525 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 7: I could do it for one of those three, and 526 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 7: that's that's the one win. I don't know, But. 527 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 2: Though, but look at this, but look at but look 528 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: at this box score tonight. Two points from Draymond Green, 529 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: two points from Otto Porter Junr. That's four points from 530 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 2: two of your starters. Okay, you cannot. You are not 531 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: gonna be able to consistently build a way to beat 532 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: a Celtics team that could shoot fifty percent from three 533 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 2: on any given night. You're not gonna do that. So 534 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: they're gonna need either for Draymond to be willing to 535 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 2: shoot the ball from five feet away from the basket 536 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 2: where he was consistently passing the ball today, or they're 537 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: gonna need to do something different with the lineup. Like, 538 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: I just don't see how what that what happened tonight 539 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: happens two more times out of three games against that 540 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: Celtics team. 541 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 7: I don't see you they can they can buy him 542 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 7: for four more points than this entire crew did from 543 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 7: the comfort of our. 544 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 2: House on uh and by the way, on nine shots, 545 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 546 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 7: Like, hey, you give us nine shots, we're gonna walk 547 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 7: out that bitch with at least six. 548 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: Points, especially in the shots he had. He was butt naked, 549 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He was button naked. And Bro, 550 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: did you hear did you hear how the ball violated 551 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: the rim on that three point shot? Bro, the brick 552 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 1: reverberated through my household. I had to go rock by 553 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: baby back to sleep. You thought its okay, You thought 554 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: it was at least four We melt it on the 555 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: seismic scale, you know, it was like, soby, it's okay, 556 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 557 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: Okay? I Game five predictions. Do you think the Warriors 558 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 2: snatched it? It sounds like at least two of you 559 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: think that the Warriors snatched the series back. Do you 560 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: think the Warriors win the next game? 561 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: Do you think they win the series? 562 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 4: What is everyone thing Scott Scott Foster officiating? Is he honest? 563 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 4: Need to know? I don't know, trying to call it 564 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 4: the big dogs. 565 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 7: We need this thing to go six, if not seven. 566 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 7: That's why I love the NBA, one step ahead of 567 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 7: the WWE. 568 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 5: Shout out to Dan Worthington, one of our colleagues that 569 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 5: runs our betting stuff with the Jews. He pointed out 570 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 5: there there was an official tonight that the Celtics were 571 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 5: fifteen and one in games that he officiated, and they 572 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 5: obviously lost tonight. I feel like they're just gonna keep trading. 573 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 5: We're probably gonna get seven out of this. John t 574 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 5: your point, when are we gonna get a Titi game 575 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 5: like he had twenty eight in twenty six the last 576 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 5: two games? 577 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 3: They look how not the most he has shot twenty 578 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: eight for eighty two. 579 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 5: Series, like Kobe in the finals where he's getting twenty eight. 580 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 5: But they're like, you shot the ball thirty five times, 581 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 5: you know, Like, so I am curious. I mean, it's 582 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 5: it's not been easy for him. We talked about that too, 583 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 5: that they seem to have a really good defensive scheme 584 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 5: against and so we'll see. 585 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: I think the ass open is coming. I think we 586 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: want to see kind of a rehashing of Game two. 587 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 3: I do not see them the Warriors slumping for three 588 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 3: games straight. Like I said, I think the Game two 589 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 3: Warriors that we saw this series come back in Game 590 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 3: five and beat the fuck out the Celtics. 591 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: That's what I say that you said slumping for three 592 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: games like, didn't tell you? 593 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 3: What do you mean they because we saw the ass 594 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 3: kicking Warriors Game two, Yeah, Game three, Game four, we 595 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 3: saw mediocre awards. I don't think we're getting mediocre Warriors 596 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 3: three straight fucking games in these minus. 597 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know who wins, Bro. I'm not 598 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: even gonna try to make something up about who I 599 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: think gonna win, because I think, you know, if the 600 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: Celtics just don't turn the ball over and don't forget 601 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: how to play basketball for five straight minutes, they'll win 602 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: by fifteen. You know what I'm saying. If it's gonna 603 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: happen about this, the whole post doing the same dumb 604 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: ass ship. 605 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 7: You know what I mean, Like the Celtics that play 606 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 7: with fire all postseason. I remember that Bucks series. They 607 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 7: tricked two of those games off to it up winning 608 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 7: the series. They tricked this game off. Let's be real, 609 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 7: they tricked this one off. They had it in, they 610 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 7: had it in their grasp at the right for sure. 611 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: For sure, that Bucks series, I think the Bucks only 612 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: truly won one game that they didn't you know that 613 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: the Lakers. That is basically hand to them. You know 614 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You know what I mean? So like, 615 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: I think that Bucks team was better, you know what 616 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying without you feel me? So like I we'll see. 617 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: It depends on if they can play four quarters of 618 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: basketball without those huge blips, like they forgot how to 619 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: play basketball in the fourth quarter for like eight minutes. 620 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: It was, it really was. They've done it consistently, but 621 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 2: it still shocks the hell out of me every time 622 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: because when they're playing well, they look so much smarter 623 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: than everyone else, and then they just it shuts down, 624 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: all right. Last topic from from Chuck Lebron James wants 625 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: to own an NBA basketball team in Las Vegas. Do 626 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: you think Bron will be a better NBA owner than 627 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan? 628 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 8: Of course, Yeah, yeah, blows better, better, a better NBA owner, 629 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 8: Michael better basketball player, better brand ambassador. 630 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 5: It is funny though, because there was a clip from 631 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 5: a pod going around where Brown was like, yeah, I 632 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 5: bought a house in Vegas. 633 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: It fucking sucks that that was like six months ago. 634 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 5: And then the NBA is like, we might put a 635 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 5: team there, and Lebron's like, I would love to own 636 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 5: a team in Las Vegas. 637 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, does he want to own the 638 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: team or does he want like the does he want 639 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: a steak in the team because he has a steak 640 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 2: in the team with the Red Sox and with. 641 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 5: One of is it Liverpool Liverpool Sports group? 642 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: You know, that's one of those things, is like you 643 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: can be part of a group and it's not necessarily 644 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 2: like a huge You just go to games whenever you want, 645 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: you know, like like I think King owns part of 646 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: the Dodgers. But she's not like firing the manager, you know, 647 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's just she just gets 648 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: to come sit wherever the fuck she wants whenever she wants. 649 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 5: Like, you know, just want a big steak, like an 650 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 5: amount that he wants to. 651 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: Own. 652 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not like the jay Z owning the nets, 653 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 5: you know where it was like jay Z owned point one. 654 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: It's not a bad steak to have in the nets, though, 655 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 656 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 4: I know. 657 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: That was a play Jaz jay Z sided with the gentifiers. 658 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 4: That was a play for him to Lebron. 659 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 5: I think would have to like d uh basically like 660 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 5: distance himself from all the clutch stuff because they made 661 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 5: jay Z sell his steak in the nets when he 662 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 5: started Rock Nation Sports. 663 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 6: So we'll see how that goes. 664 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: What would a good name be for a Las Vegas 665 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: NBA team? 666 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 4: I like Buffets, but. 667 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 6: I don't know that's a team that I think it's wild. 668 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 5: They named their hockey team the Golden Knights, Like that's 669 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 5: not some fucking that's the worst ship. 670 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 7: It's pretty weird, Like the is a great team name like. 671 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: Baller Well, Josiah shouting out l a hood so maybe 672 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 2: I'll keep a long beach and suggests that they go 673 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: with the craps table and call. 674 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: Themselves the Rollers. How about that. 675 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 2: The Vegas Rollers? 676 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 677 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 4: Letty ride all right this. 678 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: All the time. We have Thank you so much to 679 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: UH to everyone, including especially Jacobson Jones fan. 680 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 7: Some beef is eternal ladies and gentlemen turn out, and 681 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 7: I feel like. 682 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: Situations you finally got me. We all have it, we 683 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: all have those those situations. 684 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely, we'll be back. 685 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what everyone's gonna be back, but 686 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 2: the buckets got the wave. Guys are doing their thing. 687 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: Jakison Jones will have another show next week for sure, 688 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: and we'll catch y'all later. 689 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: Bite