1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay is heading 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: to us from the airport. He'll be joining in progress. 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: It is me the Buckster, leading you in this deep 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: dive into everything you need to know. All the thing's 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: happening right now, all across this land of ours, all 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: across the world. In fact, we have some things to 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: talk about, like a new job support not good not 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: a good job support. We'll discuss a little bit. Ninety 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: two thousand jobs lost. Now they're gonna revise this, it 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: could change. I get all that. But obviously any economic 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: news that is not if it's fantastic economic news, the 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: media doesn't want to talk about it because they don't 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: want to give Trump credit. And if it's even a 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 1: little negative, it's all they want to talk about when 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: it comes to the economy. So we're gonna look at 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: that a little bit. We're gonna look at that. We've 19 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: also got the aftermath of the firing of Christy Noan 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 1: by Trump from DHS. It was a long time coming. 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: It should have happened months and months ago, quite honestly, 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of back and forth over this. 23 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: We may be joined by are we do. We still 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: have Senator Kennedy on the DAKA team. Is Senator Kennedy 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: of Louisiana, who is involved in that hearing. He's coming 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: on the show. We're gonna talk to him. We're gonna 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: talk to the good senator from the great state of 28 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: Louisiana about the situation with well Baran first and foremost 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: and the DHS. But look, there's the single biggest thing 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: happening right now is the US slash Israeli aerial campaign 31 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: against Iran and now against regional proxies of Iran. There 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: have been strikes in the southern suburbs of Lebanon, so 33 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: that that is interesting. Lebanon is at a tipping point as 34 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: it seeks to curb Hesbola's influenced countries, waiting to see 35 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: if the government seizes on this moment to disarm the 36 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: Iranian BacT armed group and how the militants will respond. 37 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: So Israeli military pounding Hesbelah on the southern edge of 38 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: the Lebanese capital. This is just worth noting because we're 39 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: going they're going after. We're going after. We're with the 40 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: Israelis on this. We are allies in this mission. That 41 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: is the reality of the situation. So it is a 42 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: we situation and we're going after Hesbolah, a primary proxy 43 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: army of the Mullahs in Tehran. And man, are we 44 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: pounding the Iranians, Iranian regime, not Iranian civilians, but we 45 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: are pounding military assets and government assets hard. This is 46 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 1: in fact Trump speaking about this. This is cut one. 47 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: You can hear it from the command in chief, play it. 48 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: The United States military, together with the wonderful Israeli partners, 49 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: continues to totally demolish the enemy, far ahead of schedule 50 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: and at levels that people have never seen before. Actually, 51 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 2: we're destroying more of Iran's missiles and drone capability every 52 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: single hour, knocking them out like nobody thought it was possible. 53 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: As soon as they set off a missile, within four 54 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: minutes the launcher gets hit. They don't know what's happening, 55 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: and they're calling. They're saying, how do we make it deal? 56 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: I said, you're being a little bit late, and we 57 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: want to fight now more than they do. 58 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: Trump has said, no Iran deal now without unconditional surrender. 59 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: So again once again calling on all members. 60 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: So what we have here is an escalation and a 61 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: line in the sand. President Trump has had enough of 62 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: the Iranians, the Mullahs, the IRGC, playing all these games, 63 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: pretending like they want to negotiate, when really they just 64 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,119 Speaker 1: want to stall. Certainly, when Republicans like Trump are in office, 65 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: they want to stall. Democrats will make concessions and stupid deals, 66 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: but with Trump they're trying to just play games and 67 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: play for time. He decided enough is enough and there's 68 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: no need to sit and wait for Iran to improve 69 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: or expand upon its ballistic missile capability, which I might 70 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: add was always left out of that disastrous Obama deal. 71 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: Remember the Obama Iran deal did not cover ballistic missiles, 72 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: so the Iranians were free to build up those stockpiles, 73 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: and as we have seen, those stockpiles are now being 74 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: dramatically reduced by the air campaign. It is incredible the efficiency, 75 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: the technology, the skill, the precision with which US planes 76 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: and Israeli planes are able to We don't just have 77 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: aerial superiority, we are dominating their airspace. We are the airspace. 78 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: Now have complete and total control over it, and it 79 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: did not take very long, So you can pick any 80 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: targets you want to hit. Now the big question becomes 81 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: as we have discussed who is going to take over? 82 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: Who is going to be in charge of this country 83 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: or really perhaps a caretaker regime for a transition to 84 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: what we would like to have democratic elections. I'm sure, 85 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: And so that is people keep asking me, like, do 86 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: how do I think this is going to go? I 87 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: think if there was a clear plan, we would already 88 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: know what the clear plan is. This is a little 89 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: bit of Kentucky windage. You could say, this is a 90 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: little bit of just let it fly. Got to figure 91 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: this one out as we go. But Trump decided the 92 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: alternative was worse. Here he is saying to all members 93 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: of the security services, just put down your arms full amnesty, 94 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: that is the way forward. Plate cut too, and once. 95 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: Again calling on all members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, 96 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: the military, and the police to lay down their arms. 97 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: They're only going to be killed, and now is the 98 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: time to stand up for the Iranian people and help 99 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: take back your country. You're going to have a chance 100 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: after all these years to take back your country. Except immunity, 101 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 2: we'll give you immunity, and we'll be giving you really 102 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: the right side of history, because that's what it is. 103 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: So you'll be perfectly safe with total immunity, or you'll 104 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: face absolutely guaranteed death. And I don't want to see that. 105 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: It's true. One of the components of this that is 106 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: different from even what we were dealing with twenty years ago. 107 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: The intelligence apparatus that we and the Israelis can bring 108 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: to bear on Iran from the sky, electronically and otherwise 109 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: and on the ground is such that we can take 110 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: anybody out. Trump is just taking anybody out that he 111 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: chooses to. That gives you a lot of leverage. One 112 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: of the challenges of air campaigns in the past has 113 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: been you always needed people with guns to go door 114 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: to door, house to house and pull the other guy 115 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: out of his fighting position, out of his foxhole, so 116 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: to speak. I mean that that's part of this. But 117 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: if we are so capable that we can take out 118 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: anybody we want, any member of the leadership, I mean, 119 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: here you go. Israel just says this is an update. 120 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: The Israeli military destroyed a bunker used by Iran Supreme 121 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: Leader in a nuance slaught. They are just taking apart 122 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: the entire military infrastructure of Iran right now. That's and 123 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: there's nothing the Iranians can do about it. There's nothing 124 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: the mullets can do. There is no secret super weapon 125 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: option that they have. And I wonder how long this 126 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: continues before it's clear that they're not really in charge 127 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: of their own country. If you can't control your airspace 128 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: and you can't keep any leadership alive without the say 129 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: so of the United States and Israel, are you really 130 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: in control? So we are entering a new phase. Remember, 131 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: this brings together drones, it brings together surveillance technology that's 132 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: even beyond people that ask me like, well, what do 133 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: you think they have? Guys, I've been out. I haven't 134 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: had a clearance in over a decade now, So there's 135 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: all kinds of new wizbangs that I read about just 136 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: like you. But the technology and the mapping capability and 137 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: the human terrain assessments that they can do are way 138 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: beyond what you could have done in the early two thousands, 139 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: And we went into Iraq far greater precision. The munitions 140 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: are much more targeted and precise, as well our ability 141 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: to shoot things out of the sky that they try 142 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: to fire at US is far better. I mean, you 143 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: are seeing a dominant military performance on display right now. 144 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: We haven't seen anything really like it since Persian Gulf 145 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: War one. Nothing that comes that at this level, and 146 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: that was that was quite different in its own way. 147 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: So I think that the Trump administration feels like this 148 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: is going so far to plan, and I think that 149 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: they are having to do some improvisation as they move 150 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: along to figure out who's going to be in charge. 151 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: People talk about the curve. The Kurds are great in 152 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: Kurdish areas. I'm very proud. Everyone I know who was 153 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: US military in Iraq, everyone know who is intel in 154 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: Iraq was tending to be very pro Kurdish. They fight, 155 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: they they are reliable in their own areas, but they 156 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: have limitations because you take them out of Kurdish areas 157 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: and there are problems. All of a sudden, all these 158 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: old ethnic conflicts come together. So you got that help 159 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: in Iran in in some capacity. You got to figure 160 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: out what you're going to do with the Persian. Who's 161 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: going to be the figurehead of the Persian majority. I 162 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: don't know. People are saying some descendant of the Shaw 163 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: that could be complicated. I don't know if the administration 164 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: was certain, I think they would have already started to 165 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: lay out that plan for us. But I also believe 166 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: that there's some wisdom in this approach of let's just 167 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: as Rubio said, and I said, if you defang the snake, 168 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: let's remove their capability to hit us or any of 169 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: our friends, and say, when do you want to talk? 170 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: Let us know when you want to talk. Molliss, Your 171 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: missiles are disappearing, your stockpiles are getting blown up or 172 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: entombed by our bunker busters. How much longer do you 173 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: want this to go on for? We did try it 174 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: the nice way. We tried it the nice way for 175 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: a long time. And I would argue the Obama administration 176 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: tried it the far too nice way, bending the knees, 177 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: sending them palettes of cash, you know whatever. We tried 178 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: that for a long time. They weren't willing to play ball. 179 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: They were playing games so that they could get to 180 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: a nuke. It's very obvious there's no reason for them 181 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: to have caused all these problems if they weren't planning 182 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: to get nuclear weapons, and then they wouldn't be in 183 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: this position because there would be redlines, And I think 184 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: we might have argued if Iran had nukes and we 185 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: were doing to them what we've already done in the 186 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: early days here, would they have fired them. Yes, people 187 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: have been saying to me, Buck, do you think Aram 188 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: would have fired nukes? I don't know as a first strike. 189 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: But what we're doing now, Oh, yes, I think the 190 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: Molas probably would say, we're going to take a shot 191 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: at Tel Aviv. Let's see if we can hit it, 192 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: or Jerusalem or where we'll probably tel Aviv. But yes, 193 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: I think the Molas would do that. Now they can't. 194 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: Now they can't, So we're entering a different phase. Things 195 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: in Venezuela are already starting to move in a more 196 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: positive direction. Look, we have to understand Trump is remaking 197 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: the world in an image of stability and safety in 198 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: a way that a lot of people, including Trump voters, 199 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: didn't anticipate. I didn't know he was going to do 200 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,599 Speaker 1: all this stuff. He didn't say he was going to 201 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: do all this stuff. So far, it's working. We should 202 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: all pray that it does work, because it could be 203 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: so enormously beneficial to all these different regions, whether it's 204 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: Venezuela slash Cuba and what that would do for Latin America, 205 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: for the Caribbean basin, what we see with Iran in 206 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: the Middle East and the removal of these proxies and 207 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: everything else. You know, these places don't have to be dysfunctional, 208 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: problematic for the global community hell holes, it doesn't have 209 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: to be that way. There are plenty of places that 210 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: we don't sit around spending a lot of time worrying 211 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: about plenty of countries, and this is bold stuff from 212 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: the administration, There's no two ways about it. So I 213 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: am just very hopeful that this will continue as it 214 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: has been and that will start to see a coalescing 215 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: of anti regime forces coming together on the ground. We 216 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: saw the protest movements. But this stuff is very hard, 217 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: you know. It's think about it this way, Okay, you 218 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: think that a new you think that a new government 219 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: is possible in Iran. You hate the molas. When is 220 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: it safe for you to go outside and start talking 221 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: to people about this? When are you willing to join 222 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: that march and think that you're not going to get 223 00:13:54,320 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: mowed down by IRGC or besiege elements with pkms you 224 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: and your whole family. This is tricky. This is tricky. 225 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: So I think that's part of why Trump is saying 226 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: put down your guns now, because I can tell you this, 227 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: if they start going after civilians, I think Trump is 228 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: going to hit military elements even harder. 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Play I Am 259 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: told is in the building in DC, so he'll be 260 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: on air with the shortly and he'll be talking about 261 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: some big sports stuff going on, the sports ball conversation. 262 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: We are here talking about the Iran This is a war. 263 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: You can call it an air war, but it is war. 264 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: I know people maybe are shying away from that term 265 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: because it has a lot of implications. But this is, 266 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, if there's such a thing as submarine warfare, 267 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: for example, remember unrestricted submarine warfare was a big deal 268 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: in the Second World War. If there's submarine warfare, there's 269 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: aerial warfare, and we are definitely doing that. So and 270 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: just just a note on the terminology of this. This 271 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: is not a kinetic ongoing contingency operation for no. No, 272 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: this is this is us destroying the Iranian military. By 273 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: the way, I noted the team brought us up to 274 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: my attention. Here's former General Petraeus, the former five star 275 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: or four star five star sorry four star, right, I 276 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: don't know whatever. Yeah, the team will correct me on 277 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: that one. Sorry. Here he is this cut five. I'm 278 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: just trying to get this in play. 279 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: It in this case, I actually see the military missions 280 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: being accomplished steadily. 281 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: Here. 282 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 3: The trajectory is very good, you know. First and foremost 283 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: of course, they went after the air and ballistic missile defenses, 284 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 3: took those down whatever had been reconstituted after the Aurcereelis 285 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 3: took them apart in the early days of the Twelve 286 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: Day Air campaign. And that's crucial because we don't want 287 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 3: to be restricted to just the F thirty five stealth 288 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 3: fighter bombers and the B two stealth bombers. We want 289 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: to bring in the big ones, the B fifty two's, 290 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 3: the B one bombers, and they are flying now almost 291 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: at will. I would argue that we have actually achieved 292 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: air supremacy, not just air superiority. But again, I think 293 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: people are cautious in making that declaration. 294 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: I said dominant, same idea. By the way, four stars. Sorry, 295 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: there is a five star rank for general of the 296 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: whole army, but he was not that. I try to remember. 297 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm speaking fast today. I got a cover a lot 298 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: of ground. He was a four star general. All right, 299 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: we have played joining us shortly, and we got to 300 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: talk to all the Towers here. Born on America's darkest 301 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: day of nine to eleven, Talta Towers Foundation has been 302 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: helping American heroes ever since. Like Detective Victor Vargas, he 303 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: dedicated his life to service. 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What it takes to do this 323 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 4: with the precision that we do is world class. No 324 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 4: one else can do it, and it's world class Americans 325 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 4: like the ones I saw here, like the ones that 326 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 4: are coming home that we're going to greet home that 327 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 4: are the engine of what makes our country great. 328 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: And so I'm so grateful for folks like those here 329 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: at sent Comme at Central Command. There's our Secretary of War, 330 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: Pete Hegseth laying out that it is absolutely the case 331 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: nobody can even begin to do what our pilots are 332 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: airmen and women are doing in this campaign against Iran. 333 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: We are now joined by Klay Travis, co host of 334 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: The Clay and Buck Show, who is with us. Mister Clay, 335 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: we've been talking Iran stuff, not a whole lot of well, 336 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: more targets getting blown up, more losses for the Iranians 337 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: or through through the Iranian regime. Hesbola taken some hits 338 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: on the outskirts of be Root. Now the Israelis are 339 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: doing some cleanup operations there too. It looks like the 340 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: plan is to get everything done from the sky and 341 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: then figure out the ground as we go. Yeah, and 342 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: Iran may have gotten smart enough not to announce any 343 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: new leaders. Did you see that? The reports are. 344 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 5: That Iran has recognized that if they announced new leaders, 345 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 5: they're going to get killed. I don't know about you, 346 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 5: but I don't know. It's like, like we said a 347 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 5: little while ago. You don't want to be al Qaida 348 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 5: number two because al Qaeda number two didn't last very long. 349 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 5: They were always quickly tracked down. I think we have 350 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 5: established that whomever Iran puts in charge, we can take out. 351 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 5: And that's why I think the primary story as it 352 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 5: pertains to this current attack plan that's going on is 353 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 5: at what point does Iran say, Okay, here's our guy. 354 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: Are you okay with these guys? Do they go? 355 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 5: I mean, is it a little bit like the draft? 356 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 5: Are they going to President Trump? And they're like, hey, 357 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 5: here are the four guys we're thinking about naming as 358 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 5: the next head of Iran? Which of these four are 359 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 5: any of these four acceptable? 360 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: Trump is set. He wants to basically pick the leader. 361 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 5: You've been involved in this, I mean, and by the way, 362 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 5: this is kind of a challenge. I mean, I'm kind 363 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 5: of jokingly saying it's like the NFL draft, but you're 364 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 5: trying to project how someone will be as a leader 365 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 5: who has never been a leader before. So you got 366 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 5: all sorts of promises probably being made, but what really 367 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 5: matters is what's the relationship, Like who is the delse 368 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 5: Rodriguez Where everything seems to be going very well with Venezuela. 369 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 5: Right now, is there that person inside of Iran that 370 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 5: the CIA? I mean, if you were still in the CIA, 371 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 5: this is probably one of the things that they have 372 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 5: huge teams of people doing right now. I would imagine 373 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 5: as all the leadership is getting wiped out, they're trying 374 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 5: to do deep dives on whomever the candidates are to 375 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 5: potentially take over and try to figure out who can 376 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 5: they have a relationship with, who is trustworthy at all 377 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 5: in real time. I would imagine that's to a large extent, 378 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 5: what the data analysis is consisting of. 379 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: This is what Benjamin Hall is saying. He's getting messages. 380 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: This is Benjamin Hall of Fox Right, Fox News, Fox News. 381 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: Is Benjamin Hall saying that he's getting messages from the 382 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: people of Iran that they will rise up. This has 383 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: got seven play it. 384 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 6: The primary objective is to remove the threat, is to 385 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 6: remove the missiless to hit the nuclear programs, and it's 386 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 6: to make sure they can't rebuild those programs as well. 387 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 6: That's the primary goal, and now I believe will happen 388 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 6: in a few weeks. The question is regime change. How 389 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 6: long does that take afterwards? And I was getting messages 390 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 6: very very rare from people inside Tehran who support this 391 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 6: action and who was saying just today, you reduce that hierarchy, 392 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 6: you get rid of the leaders, and we will rise up. 393 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 6: President Trump has said it as well. The people of 394 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 6: Iran have to do this. So if you can tear 395 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 6: apart the regime, you can tear apart their weapons program, 396 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 6: the people of Iran should do. 397 00:22:54,680 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: It, we hope. So this is the huge question, and 398 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: this has been a question for decades now. Will this 399 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: ever happen? Will there be a I guess a Persian 400 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: spring instead of an Arab spring where the dictator is 401 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: thrown out by a popular uprising on the streets. 402 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 5: We'll see you worked on this back in the day, 403 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 5: because it's been a story that has emerged before I 404 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 5: was reading this morning getting ready for the show. You 405 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 5: actually have a lot of expertise on this, I would think, 406 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 5: although I don't know how much it changed in the 407 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 5: last twenty some odd years. What's the Kurdish situation, how 408 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 5: many people do they have, how armed are they to 409 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 5: what extent? Everybody's talking now about them potentially uprising. There's 410 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 5: different reports about whether or not it's going to happen. 411 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 5: But I haven't seen anybody say, hey, they have ten 412 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 5: thousand people with guns, they have twenty thousand. Do we 413 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 5: have any sense for how many people they could mobilize 414 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 5: as part of any sort of invading force any Because 415 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 5: I know this was talked about back in the days 416 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 5: of Iraq. I mean, how viable of a uprising? In 417 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 5: your mind? Is it likely to be able to produce? 418 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 5: Or is this just kind of a hair brain scheme 419 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 5: that's unlikely to go very far? 420 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: I can tell you in the case of Iraq, I 421 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: actually talked about this a little bit at the very 422 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: start today. In the case of Iraq, it was the 423 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: Kurds were very reliable at securing the areas of Iraq 424 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: that were historically Kurdish. The problem, one of the big 425 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: problems was that there are cities, notably Mosl was one 426 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: of them, and then places like the Yala, and there 427 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: was Kirkook. There were a number of cities in Iraq 428 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: that there was like a Kurdish part and a non 429 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: Kurdish part. And then it's who does security. I mean, 430 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: the Tiger's River cut Moses in half. I was in 431 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: Moses and remember this issue, and the northern part of 432 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: the river was essentially largely Kurdish. Provided this is going 433 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: back to two thousand and six, two thousand seven eight 434 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: largely Kurdish. The southern part of the city or the 435 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: southern half of the city was like Sunni Arab hellscape, 436 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: suicide bombings going off all the time. It was craziness. 437 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: So I think in Iran, where you have roughly fifteen 438 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: to twenty percent of the population is Kurdish, it's actually 439 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: pretty similar to what it is in Iraq. By the way, 440 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: you can use the Kurds for stability operations where they are, 441 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: which is helpful. But you know, you can't just like 442 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: have Kurdish column the idea of them as into Tehran 443 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: and be like we're in charge now, that's not gonna happen. 444 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, and again this comes back to you worked on this. 445 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 5: I know we talked about it earlier this week. But 446 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 5: I wonder if at some point they're gonna start talking 447 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 5: about dividing up Iran like they talked about back in 448 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 5: the day, dividing up Iraq. I don't know that that's 449 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 5: a viable option. But I was given a Kurdis Dan 450 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 5: T shirt. I don't have it anymore. 451 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: But it was like with like its own flag and 452 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: the whole thing, and they're like, yeah, we love you 453 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: up here. I'm like, you guys are kind of declaring 454 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: your own country. That's a whole other thing. 455 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 5: Well, I mean this may or may not surprise a 456 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 5: lot of people out there, but one of the largest 457 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 5: populations of Kurdish people in America is Nashville. I mean, 458 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 5: it's pressed. So I went to school with a ton 459 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 5: of Kurdish kids. 460 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, a man who knows your Kurds. 461 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 5: Actually, I actually am somewhat knowledgeable about the idea. 462 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: You know, they're considered one of the largest stateless ethnic 463 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: groups in the world. This is why there's such a 464 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: There's something like fifteen to twenty million Kurds I think 465 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: worldwide is the estimate. So it's a pretty big population. 466 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: Most of it is dispersed across southeastern Turkey, Iraq, and Iran. 467 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: That's really the Kurdish Crescent. The Kurds were promised I 468 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: think it was by the League of Nations, maybe Woodrow Wilson. 469 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: There was talk of giving the Kurds a state in 470 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 1: the Middle East, and they kind of got screwed out 471 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: of that, and there's been some let's just say frustration 472 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: over that for a long time. And this is evidenced 473 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: by my favorite Kurdish saying is the Kurds have only 474 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: one friend, the mountains, because they've had to just go 475 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: up into the mountains and fight and defend themselves over 476 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: and over and over again. So yeah, and the Turks 477 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: called the mountains unexpected buck, but I looked it up 478 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: to confirm. Nashville actually has the largest Kurdish population in 479 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: the United States, the largest, and there's an area of 480 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: Nashville called Little Kurdistan because so many people relocated after 481 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: the Gulf War and ended up in Nashville. So I 482 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: went to school with a bunch of kids that were Kurdish, 483 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: and so I remember being steeped in hearing about all 484 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: of this. And so the question is, obviously, is there 485 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: any viable alternative. It seems like a lot of people 486 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: are putting faith in this. I'm sure we have some 487 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: US mill listening who worked with the Kurds in Iraq. 488 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: If you guys want to weigh in on this, you 489 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: know a heck of a lot more about it, even 490 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: I do. I was only there for a few months 491 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: at a time, and really not I was really just 492 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,959 Speaker 1: trying to help the Task Force Target Bad guys. I 493 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: wasn't really deep in with the Kurds, embedded with them, 494 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: training them. I know some of you were, you know, 495 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: in base with on a base with them probably for 496 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen months at a time. So if you 497 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: have some thoughts on this, anybody who were who was 498 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: working with them part of the training operations Special Forces. 499 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: I mean I remember going to I went to Special 500 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 1: Forces compounds Clay where it was just SF guys and 501 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: then some Curds running security for them. I mean that 502 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: was the level of trust that that people would have 503 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: in them. The Curds at different times in the Iraq 504 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: War were really the only, really the only group that 505 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: US mill and and the agencies, various agencies could trust 506 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: to stand and fight when when Yah, when the bullets 507 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 1: started to fly, and they had far less problems with infiltrators, 508 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: you know, people that were actually Al Kaida in Iraq 509 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: or whatever. So look, there's a lot. I'm I've I 510 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: always have sort of a soft spot for the curd 511 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: so much so that actually I get a little aggravated 512 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: with Turkey with Turkey sometimes over it. I've always been 513 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: very pro Kurdished and a lot of US Miller pro 514 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: Kurdish because of their experience with them. But in the 515 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: Iran context for what we're looking at now, use will 516 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: do a point useful to probably secure some areas that 517 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: will be uh, we won't have to worry about. But 518 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna need the Persian majority, the Farsi 519 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: speaking Persian majority, to coalesce into some sort of process here. 520 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: And the biggest thing is going to be getting the 521 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: security services that I mentioned this before. When people can 522 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: walk out in Tehran on the street and and chant 523 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: and whatever and have no fear of any security service 524 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: opening up on them, then we will have turned a corner. 525 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: I think there is still that very much that fear 526 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: right now. So we'll see. Yeah, for sure. That's really 527 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: by the way, I did not know that about Nashville. 528 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's some ethnic enclaves of immigrants, 529 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: and you know there's a huge Ethiopian population in the DC, 530 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: for example, a lot of Ethiopian friends that live in DC. 531 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of El Salvadorans in the 532 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: like Maryland and Northern Virginia, ere like, you get these 533 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: groups that I didn't know the Kurds are. That's actually 534 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: a nice choice for them. I gotta say, well done. 535 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 5: Kurds Nashville pretty close to remember how exactly it happened, 536 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 5: but but yeah, it's a huge population. And if you 537 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 5: remember back in the day when they had the first 538 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 5: elections in Iraq, Nashville was one of the places that 539 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 5: allowed the voting to occur here because there were such 540 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 5: a huge Kurdish population. 541 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting, large size, there's yeah, he looked with 542 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: them every day. 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Senator Kennedy is going to join us at 568 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 5: the top of the next hour, and to a large extent, Buck, 569 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 5: I can't wait, honestly from Louisiana Senator Kennedy to hear 570 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 5: what he's going to say, because it seems that his 571 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 5: questioning of the DHS Secretary Nome and the amount of 572 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 5: two hundred and twenty million dollars that was spent on 573 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 5: an advertising campaign may well have been the final precipitating 574 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 5: event that led to her being removed, So we will 575 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 5: be talking to the Senator here in a few moments, 576 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 5: and I would just say to everybody, maybe get your popcorn, 577 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 5: because I feel like Senator Kennedy is usually pretty entertaining 578 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 5: with a lot of homespun wisdom, but I think he 579 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 5: might be bringing a little bit of a bazuka with 580 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 5: him on this interview in a bit. 581 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: Well, there's reporting that is out already that says that 582 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: Nome the last straw was saying that Trump approved the 583 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: two hundred twenty million. There's also reporting that for Trump, 584 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: the last straw was the way that she answered the 585 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: question answered the questions about her special government employee advisor 586 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: Corey Lewandowski. So both of those have gotten a lot 587 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: of focus right now. But one thing I do know 588 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: for sure about Trump is if most of your currency 589 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: is and I mean like ninety nine percent of it 590 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: is your loyalty to Trump, you better stay loyal to 591 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: Trump and not crack under oath and try to throw 592 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: him under the bus or involve him in some problem 593 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: that you've got. That was a very big mistake, regardless 594 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: of what the reporting all says on this by We've 595 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: got a VIP email for Mike lu says buck. I 596 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: was with ISG in Iraq from two thousand and three 597 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: to two thousand and four, starting in air bill what's 598 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: up in the North and moving to Baghdad. Remind your 599 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: listeners of what happened Halabja in nineteen eighty eight with 600 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: the Kurds and what Saddam did to those people. Yeah, 601 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: he dropped seren gas on them, He gassed the Kurds 602 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: tried to rise up and uh, Saddam just with helicopters. 603 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: He had air spiority. There's no Kurdish air worse really 604 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: to speak of. And they were they gassed people, villages 605 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: in Jilabja. It was wore, thousands of people killed. So, yeah, 606 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: Saddam was a very bad guy and the kurd suffered 607 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: horribly under the Saddam regime. But that meant when Saddam 608 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: was gone, they're willing to fight. Look some of this clay. 609 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: This brings up another part of the conversation. Do the 610 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: do the Iranian people do they are you know, do 611 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: they have a stomach to step up for their own freedom? 612 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: It's being it's being offered to them right now, not 613 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: on a silver platter, because they're going to take casualties 614 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: and losses. That's going to happen. But do they want it? 615 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: Do they want to be free of the tyrant? We'll see, 616 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: We'll see what ends up happening with that. Jack in 617 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: Nashville says, there's a lot of Kurds in Nashville. What's 618 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: going on? 619 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 7: Jack? Well, I was just going to refer you to 620 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 7: a book called Sellout, uh by a guy named Shippers, 621 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 7: and it's probably about the Clinton impeachment, but we got 622 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 7: the curve words here because of Clinton and Gore's immigration policies, 623 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 7: the same policies that brought the Somalians to Minnesota and 624 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 7: the Cubans down to Florida. And the theory was that 625 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 7: they're gonna try and swing purple states blue or even 626 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 7: red states blue, and we're gonna put the immigrants there. 627 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 7: And it's a very good book. You know, the guy 628 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 7: who's the guy that wrote it is a pretty hardcore 629 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 7: Chicago Democrat. But uh uh, it's worth referencing there. But 630 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 7: that's how when we got them all all right. 631 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for calling in Clay interesting interesting 632 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: little historical tidbics. I know you like history, although maybe 633 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: not this region of history as much. Salid didn't sALS 634 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: who didn't was occurred. In fact, Richard, the Lionheart's great 635 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: opponents in the Crusades was Kurdish. I had something that 636 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: something that, let me tell you, the curred certainly remember 637 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: probably the greatest general of that peero of history from 638 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: the Muslim side. But yes, Suladan was a kurd I 639 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: think I mentioned this on the program. The Rick Atkinson 640 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: book about World War Two. I've been reading about the 641 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: battles in North Africa. He's such an amazing writer that 642 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: he has gone all the way into Hannibal in the 643 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: way different ways that attacks happened back in those days. 644 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: And now it's got me super fascinating to read more 645 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,720 Speaker 1: about that era as well. But the Rick Atkinson books 646 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: on Revolutionary War World War two. Can't recommend them highly enough. 647 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 5: When we come back, Senator Kennedy with a two by four, 648 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 5: I think y'all are probably gonna enjoy this. Keep begging 649 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 5: with us,