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Speaker 2: Let's get let's get the pressing question out of the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's start off, and really forgot where this interview

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Speaker 2: Right off the bat.

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Speaker 3: Where do you stand on the twenty nine Big Twelve

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Speaker 3: Championship when Texas sold from Nebraska with one second left?

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Speaker 4: Okay, So, you know, throughout history and throughout time, there's

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Speaker 4: But it's the football gods, man. Things happen the way

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Speaker 4: they're supposed to happen, right, So Texas won.

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Speaker 1: When you're at the University of Texas, the gods are

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Speaker 5: I'd like to think.

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Speaker 2: So you weren't at Texas at the time when you're

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Speaker 2: watching it, when you're at the team. I was watching

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Speaker 2: the game live and you see us celebrate games over cold.

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Speaker 2: If Sue wasn't that fast, bro Cole was not.

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Speaker 3: He does an interview I bust his balls about it

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Speaker 3: all the time where he's like, oh, there was an

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Speaker 3: if Sue wasn't that fast, you're not getting rid of

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Speaker 3: the ball. But they add the second back on kick

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Speaker 3: most we celebrated. And you, as a coach watching, what

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Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you, I thought there was one

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Speaker 4: I was at USC for the bush push against Notre

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Speaker 5: Then there was the bush push to win the game.

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Speaker 4: So I've been hard of those games too, Like this

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Speaker 4: this is the only time it's ever happened, It happens.

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Speaker 2: I gotta get out of my bubble. You're gonna be

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know when you were so you're in

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Speaker 2: It's not a shot.

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Speaker 5: Just read your Wikipedia.

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Speaker 1: You walk on a USC play to play baseball, ends

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Speaker 5: A ball coach? Questions?

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Speaker 4: So I went back to El Camino and John Featherstone

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Speaker 4: My freshman year, like never happened at El Camino, and

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Speaker 1: If it wasn't for that coach and that health class,

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Speaker 5: I'd probably be a high school teacher and a high

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Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's a valid point in question.

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Speaker 1: With the new landscape of college football and the way

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Speaker 4: I hope they want to be here because they want

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Speaker 4: kids exactly. But if if we're short sighted, and if

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, when you do with Famili's from a recruiting standpoint,

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Speaker 2: The entire family. Yeah, the entire family. And he's not

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Speaker 1: He took a very unique approach to his high school

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Speaker 4: So then you fast forward Ricky Williams. I'm like, he

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Speaker 3: You hear that Nebraska fans before Matt rule was brought

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Speaker 3: We have one last question. I see, I see.

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Speaker 2: We're going to have one last question. It's called factor fiction.

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Speaker 2: That's a segment, Taylor, get it outa get it out.

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Speaker 3: We're going to show you a photo and you're basically

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Speaker 5: I can't see.

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Speaker 2: Fact you have over here.

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Speaker 1: Fact It says the glass Rivalry and college football Fact

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Speaker 1: ninety six thousand fans. If there is a game played

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Speaker 5: It's called the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, between Ohio State and Michigan, widely noticed, the greatest

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Speaker 2: Yet? That is fact?

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Speaker 5: That was a pretty good rivalry. Yeah, I would say

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Speaker 1: Right right behind Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa, and then

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Speaker 1: probably you're right the iron ball. I was going to

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Speaker 2: No, I think he's saying his list is rhetoric one

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Speaker 5: Which game?

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Speaker 5: Oh he's got he's got us playing his game. He

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Speaker 5: goes which game? He knew the game he's got us?

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Speaker 2: In a blender? Would you put usc U c l

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Speaker 1: You think about how many people you have to pass

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Speaker 3: I feel like he's he's really flipped the flip the script.

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Speaker 4: So they're both dynasty and I will say this, that's

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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The great thing about yours too, is it's early in

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Speaker 4: This setting is amazing, right, I mean, you go, you

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Speaker 3: Tack and you said it. You said it quickly. But

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Speaker 5: Yes it is.

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Speaker 2: It's very serious. But there we thank you for your time.

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Speaker 2: This was awesome.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 2: Hope you had as much fun as we did.

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Speaker 5: Now, appreciate, appreciate you boys.

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