1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty and he Armstrong and Getty. But it 4 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: gets even worse. 5 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 3: Raw intelligence obtained by the FBI in twenty twenty, yet 6 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 3: buried by rogue bureaucrats, stated that China's activities even included 7 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 3: an attempt to manufacture illegal ballots for Joe Biden. Document 8 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 3: show that during this period, dozens of significant CIA and 9 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 3: NSA reports about China's election targeting were kept out of 10 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: the presidential briefing. These were briefings I would get almost 11 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: every day. Everything was kept out that was of importance. 12 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: So Trump announced earlier in the week he is going 13 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: to address the nation the way we do it in 14 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: the United States, since we don't have government controlled media, 15 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: like where Iran or Rush or something like that. Putin 16 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: can just announce or the iatolic can just announce I'm 17 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: giving a speech tonight, and everyone is covering it, and 18 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: they do because again, the media is controlled by the government. 19 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: Our media is not controlled by the government. So you 20 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: asked for time. It's controlled by the Democratic Party. Everybody 21 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: knows that. Oh so you ask for time as the president, 22 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: and I don't remember the last time that a president 23 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: has asked for prime time time and been denied that 24 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: by any of the major networks. Anyway, Trump asked for time, 25 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: and CBS aired at least the first part of the 26 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: speech and then went to analysis. ABC and NBC didn't 27 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: air it at all. I don't remember he blasted him 28 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: during the speech too. I don't remember remember the last 29 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: time that's happened. 30 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: Now. 31 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: Earlier in the week, when it was announced that he 32 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: was going to talk about election interference, I thought, oh God, 33 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: he's going to go on and on about the twenty 34 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: twenty election and how it was stolen from him. But 35 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: that's not what happened. He got into, It's not entirely 36 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: what happened. He got into all kinds of stuff that 37 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: is supposed to be new information about China and Russia 38 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: messing with our elections and their intent and that sort 39 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: of stuff. 40 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: Some of it to help Biden, some of it to 41 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: help him. 42 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: The Russians were trying to help him get elected, the 43 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: Chinese were trying to help Biden get elected, and various stuff. 44 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: Here's some major Garrett on CBS after they broke in 45 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: and they did a little analysis of what Trump had 46 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: said so far last night. 47 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 4: She underscore the point is that the White House made 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 4: today in his briefing. It is not alleging the China 49 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 4: or any other foreign adversary infiltrated any system in our country, 50 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 4: compromised a single vote or material effected any election outcome. Ever, 51 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 4: that's really important. Yeah, vulnerabilities matter. That is important. But 52 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: have they been taken to the next most important, scariest 53 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: level and the administration is saying no, it has not. 54 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: So I feel like Major Garrett was like bailing out 55 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: the Trump administration. 56 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. 57 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 1: I don't know what his intent was, but I think 58 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: that did with Look, they're not claiming the China stole 59 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: the election or anywhere. They're just letting you know, they 60 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: were jerking around with the elections and we need to 61 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: watch out for it, right, and that we have vulnerabilities 62 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: that we really ought to look into. 63 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: That's one hundred percent legitimate. 64 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 4: It was. 65 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: Frankly, it was a mishmashy hard to follow this that 66 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: and the other ish speech from Trump that would try 67 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: to make way too many points. Mice I said earlier, 68 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: I wish he just hammered the need for legal id 69 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: to vote and making sure the voting roles are only 70 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: people who need to be on there. Well, why wasn't 71 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: it just from his desk at two o'clock on a Wednesday, 72 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: like he announces all kinds of other stuff of roughly 73 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: the same importance. 74 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: Is there any three dimensional chess going on here? 75 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: We did bomb bridges and power plants for the first 76 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: time last night. Did he decide I need to have 77 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: a primetime speech that everybody's talking about so that all 78 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: the talk the next day is not about war crime 79 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: this and taking out power plants. That any chance of that, 80 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think anybody cares that much, 81 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: do they. Well, when he first announced power plants and bridges, 82 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: there was a lot of talk about lots of Democrats 83 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: came out immediately with that's a war crime in the 84 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: New York Times and everybody. But same night as the 85 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: primetime address. That doesn't make any sense to me. I 86 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: don't understand why that was a primetime address save those 87 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: for really really important new things. 88 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. 89 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: I would agree anyway, moving on, because I don't think 90 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: anybody's going to be talking about it and on Monday. 91 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: I don't think you may be talking about it at lunch. 92 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: Right, right, And again it's kind of a because I 93 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: think there were some legitimate things brought up. Well I 94 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: know there were, but again it was a little mishmashy. 95 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: We'll see what comes from it. Sorry, you know, Oh, 96 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: that's right. 97 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna check what the latest 98 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: reporting on the Iran war was, and I was distracted 99 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: by the fact that the first several stories in the 100 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: New York Times are about the new Prime Minister of Britain. 101 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: They get to the speech eventually. 102 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: It isn't didn't trip my trigger. 103 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: Wildfire smoke in North America, still scrolling China and a ie. 104 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: So I don't think anybody's that upset about the Iran stuff. 105 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: So he did throw in a couple of things that 106 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: apparently were ad libbed, you know how he does that. 107 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: He threw in a couple of things about burn bags 108 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: and stuff that has been discredited since he originally started 109 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,679 Speaker 1: talking about it back in twenty twenty. Anyway, somebody tweeted 110 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: this out last night and it was floating around on 111 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: social media, and I thought this was pretty good. What 112 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: I would like, I would love it. If this could 113 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: be put to a poll for the entire country, how 114 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: many people would agree with this, this series of statements? 115 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: How many people would be on board with this? Trump 116 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: lost fair and square in twenty twenty. Only women can 117 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: get pregnant, The Trump assassination attempts were real. Mitch McConnell 118 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: is alive. Michelle Obama is not a man. Barack Obama 119 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: is a citizen. America is less racist than most countries. 120 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: Police stop crime, tariffs hurt the economy. How many people 121 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: could you get to say yeah to all of those? 122 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: Do you think, oh, my gosh, oh, because I think 123 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: all of those are to my mind, indisputably true. 124 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agreed with all of them. But how many 125 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: people could you get on board to say yes to 126 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: all those? 127 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: Most twenty eight? Twenty eight percent? I don't know. I 128 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: need to hear the list again and I will have 129 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: to do a little quick math in my head. 130 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: All right, there, we lost twenty percent. There. 131 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: Trump lost fair and square in twenty twenty. Only I 132 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: know there's a significant chunk of our audience that would 133 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: reject that notion true only women can get pregnant. Anybody 134 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: who doesn't think that is an idiot or a cultist. 135 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: The Trump assassination attempts were real. This is kind of 136 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: a presentism one. 137 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: This one. 138 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell is alive. Michelle Obama is not a man. 139 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: Barack Obama is a citizen. I like this one. America 140 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: is less racist than most countries. That would cut a 141 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: bunch of people out. Yeah, you'd lose a lot of 142 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: the young left. Maybe this one too, police stop crime 143 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: and tariff hurt the economy, which to me might be 144 00:07:55,200 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: the most complicated one one. Did you see Paul? Is 145 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: it Paul Krukman, that's his first name. A Nobel Prize 146 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: winning economist who I don't think he works for The 147 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: New York Times anymore, but he's been a pain in 148 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: the ass of normal people forever as a lefty, and 149 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: they take his word for everything because he won the 150 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: Bell Prize years ago. 151 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:21,559 Speaker 2: Completely full of crap. 152 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: Except he came out and saying, you know, he said 153 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: I was wrong about this. He said, I've looked over 154 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: the data and I think Trump is right about the tariffs. 155 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: He put that out a couple of weeks ago, that 156 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: the tariffs we were being treated unfairly. 157 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: This was a good idea, and this did help us. 158 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: Well, that's that's partly because he's an old school left 159 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 1: in protectionism and mercantilism. If you really want to to 160 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: turn people off at a dinner party, start talking about that. 161 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: That's long been a province of the old left. You 162 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: thought there was a. 163 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: Good list, though, because you really hit on a couple 164 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: of big points for a certain crowds, Because a lot 165 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: of people would be not long. 166 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you need to get to there. 167 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: Whatever they call gorya ox or sacred cow or whatever 168 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: it is, you'd be okay, I'm all this. And then 169 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: as soon as it said America is less racist than 170 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: most countries, I'm out. Or only women can get pregnant, 171 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm out, or like you said, for a bunch of 172 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: our audience, Trump lost farre and square in twenty twenty, 173 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: I'm out. Yeah, that one's a little bit broad because, 174 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: and I know I speak for a lot of the 175 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: folks listening, they're like. 176 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 177 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: The Russian collusion hoax as perpetrated by the FBI with 178 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: help from the NSA. That's fair and square, you know, 179 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: to say, to have a point, what do you mean 180 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: by he lost. He lost, wing, he lost, and he 181 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: got seven million fewer votes and he lost. 182 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would I would change that one to. 183 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: Donald Trump did not actually win the votes in twenty twenty. 184 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: Ter rehash something nobody wants to rehash. But I did 185 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: the homework on it yesterday, so I'll have to throw 186 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: it out there quickly. 187 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: Uh oh. 188 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: There were sixty two legal claims the Trump people made. 189 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: They lost sixty one of them in court. The one 190 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: they won got overturned quickly. It's okay. Most of the 191 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: claims that Rudy Giuliani and Sydney Powell made on TV 192 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: to you, they did not make in court. They set 193 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: them on TV and on talk shows and podcasts, but 194 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: they didn't actually say them out loud in court because 195 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: they didn't believe them themselves and they didn't want to 196 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: get disbarred and they didn't want to go to jailor 197 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: get disbarred. 198 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just true. 199 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: And all those court cases across America that Trump lost 200 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: over challenging that election, lots of them were with Trump 201 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: judges and red legislatures. 202 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: This is true. Yeah, I don't not to say about that. 203 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: There's not much you need to you don't need to 204 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: get complicated when you get into the men can't have 205 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: babies one. 206 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: That one's easy. Yeah, there's no subtlety there. Yeah. 207 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: But the fact is, there's a lot more money to 208 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: be made and whipping people up than calming them down. 209 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot more money to be made in wild 210 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: conspiracies than in it's actually not that interesting. 211 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: Here's the truth. It just is. 212 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: It's human nature. Human beings cannot survive the Internet. That 213 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: has become clear to me. I wish you young people 214 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: well good luck. It's going to be a quite a test. 215 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: Day's life has always been quite a test, so don't 216 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: get all self pitying. They've fixed the reflecting pool and 217 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: they're going to fill it back with water, thank god. 218 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: Finally the nations nightmare is over. Our long national Are 219 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: you kidding me? Barely noticed time you compare that? 220 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: Oh hello, damn it. Well it's not that late in 221 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 2: the show. I'd meant to plug. 222 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: Yesterday's One More Thing podcast Armstrong and Getty One More Thing. 223 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: You get it automatically if you subscribe to Armstrong and 224 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: Getty on demand. We went through the executive summary of 225 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: the Trump Administration's report on What's the title of it, 226 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: Saving America's Story, how ideological capture at the Smithsonian Institution's 227 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: National Museum of American History erases our heritage. 228 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: And we went over the. 229 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: Marxist activists who have taken over who took over the 230 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: leadership of the Smithsonian Institution, particularly the National History Museum. 231 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: That's where I'm sick, all right, Jack, first person account 232 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: of it has become a far leftist. This country is 233 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: evil and it sucks museum, and the Trump administration's report 234 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: on that and what to do about it is absolutely shocking. 235 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: It's amazing. It is extremely even handed and reasonable, and 236 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: we hit that hard and at length in yesterday's Armstrung 237 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: You any One More Thing podcast, So that would be 238 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: July the sixteenth, and I would encourage you to listen 239 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: to it. And the reason that popped into my head 240 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: is the idea that the thing you ought to be 241 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: worried about on the National Mall is the resurfacing of 242 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: the reflecting pool as opposed to the bizarre and sickening 243 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: takeover of our national Institution's rostory. Oh please, yeah, no kidding. 244 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: That's a very good point. That's a good comparison right 245 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: there in ab are you kidding me, honey. 246 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: Every time you leave for your affair, you leave the 247 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: door open. Our air conditioning bills are so high you've 248 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: got to close the door on your way to your affair. 249 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: To your affair with three of our neighbors, your orgies 250 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: of the door. 251 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: Please, that's a good one. Come on anyway, listen to 252 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: the podcast. 253 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: Can we militarily open the straight and what would that 254 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: look like? 255 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to Mike Lyons a little bit later 256 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: about that. 257 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: Lots of other stuff on the way to stay here. 258 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 5: The World Cup final matchup is set with Argentina taking 259 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 5: on Spain and they got it pretty good. That's a 260 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 5: pretty amazing halftime show. In story, there's also a game 261 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 5: for third place on Saturday between France and England and 262 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 5: they have a halftime show too. 263 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: Wow, look at this this Saturday. 264 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 6: It's the third place game with an incredible halftime show 265 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 6: featuring the six Flags guy Talk to a Girl, Ray Done, 266 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 6: the Australian breakdancer, Justin Bieber is his cousin Hank, that 267 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 6: other other guy from the Black Eyed ps MS McConnell 268 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 6: on spoons. 269 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: And bt s. 270 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 7: It's the Bulgarian tambourine squad. You can miss it. 271 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: It's Henrine Squad. Miss McConnell on spoons. They do that. 272 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: They have a third place game. Yeah. Wow. 273 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: I really don't go deep enough in my soccer knowledge 274 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: to know how hard anybody tries, or whether the scrubs 275 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: get to play or what, or whether there's much pride 276 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: involved in that. 277 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 278 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: Maybe you definitely want third instead of fourth. Like I said, 279 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. 280 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 281 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: So I'm on this thing now where I walk for 282 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: about forty five minutes to an hour every single night, 283 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: and it's become one of those habits where I just 284 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: can't hardly not do it, and I hope I can 285 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: keep it doing when the weather turns bad. But I 286 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: was listening to a podcast yesterday with David Sedaris. 287 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: Do you know him? 288 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: The writer, hilarious guy, he's been an NPR favorite forever, 289 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: but a really funny guy if you've never read any 290 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: of his stuff. But they were talking to him about 291 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: his walking routine. He walks ten Remember, ten thousand steps 292 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: was a thing for a while and then they came 293 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: out with the ten thousand steps is just a made 294 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: up round number to sell you fit bits seven thousand 295 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: steps is really plenty for most people. Here's why lowering 296 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: all these different things can't risk dementia all these things, 297 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: more steps is better. But Sadaris walks ten miles a day. Wow, 298 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: every day, he said, rain or shine, no matter what 299 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: his schedule is, if he has to be somewhere, he'll 300 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: get up at four o'clock in the morning to get 301 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: his ten miles in before he goes to the airport 302 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: to fly somewhere to Pumper's lotus book. 303 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: Wow, how long would that? Wuldn't that take you? 304 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: Here's a four mile an hour walk. As you're walking fast. 305 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: If you walked at that pace, it's gonna take you 306 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: two and a half hours. I just think from a 307 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: time standpoint. 308 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: I don't know how you do that. 309 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: And well, look who am I to, questioned the great 310 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: David Sedaris. But you could do you know, brief interval 311 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: training that would give you all sorts of health benefits 312 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: on those days. But you know, he's got a habit going, 313 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: he's got a groove. It's overall a good one for him. 314 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: Would I approach it differently? But I can't fault a guy. Yeah, Anyway, 315 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: I got all this information about what it does for 316 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: you to get in seven eight thousand steps a day, 317 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: which is about three three and a half miles by 318 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: the way, if you're wondering how far that is. There 319 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: are a lot of health benefits to that you don't need. 320 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: You don't need be in great shape or anything like that. 321 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: So I guess we're bombing bridges now and some energy 322 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: infrastructure in Iran? And is that going to do the trick? 323 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal said the other day, we can't get 324 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: the straight open without a lot of troops. We'll ask 325 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: Mike Lines about it next, Armstrong and Getty for Iran. 326 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 8: The Straits of Mosstra is a strategic asset. 327 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: No matter what. 328 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 8: Happens here, they will continue to want to take it 329 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 8: back from us because it's number one. They don't have 330 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 8: a nuclear power capability, they're not even close to developing 331 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 8: a weapon now. This is their number one strategic asset. 332 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 8: It gives them leverage over the Golf States in a region, 333 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 8: and they truly want to have an element of control 334 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 8: here and they are willing to fight us for it, 335 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 8: and we have got to take it away from him 336 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 8: and prevent them from ever getting it back under their 337 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 8: control again. 338 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: General Jack Keane on Fox yesterday, and that seems to 339 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: be the case. And we started talking about this two 340 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: days ago. Wall Street Journal had that piece where they 341 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: were supposedly talking to people in the White House and 342 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: the Pentagon who are saying the Pentagon has been telling 343 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: the President, Look, we can open the strait, but it'll 344 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: be incredibly difficult, and it will take a lot of troops, 345 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: and I mean it will be an amazing commitment of 346 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: military power to do this. 347 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: Do we really want to do this? You're gonna need 348 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: more people, You're gonna need more everything. 349 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the situation in general and that question 350 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: more specifically with military analyst Mike Lyons, who joins us now. 351 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: Mike, always great to talk. How are you, hey, guys, 352 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: great to be back. 353 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: So how accurate is that that to open the street 354 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: would be somewhere between impossible and very very very difficult. 355 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 7: I'm not sure. I think General King's got it right. 356 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 9: I think we're going to continue to attack along this 357 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 9: very long coastline, right six hundred miles of coastline that 358 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 9: exists here. I look at the targets specifically right round 359 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 9: the sixth day now of striking here, and we're after 360 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 9: the most the largest threat and out of these coastal 361 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 9: batteries and drones, and you know, anybody who picks his 362 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 9: head up and. 363 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 7: Decides to fire. 364 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 9: Still not at scale, although some of their missiles and 365 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 9: drones are still getting through. We could still pound away 366 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 9: here for a very long time from the air and 367 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 9: continue to degrade their capability. We saw we took out 368 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 9: a bridge last night. That's a little unusual. And it's 369 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 9: all about the infrastructure now, because if you take away 370 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 9: the initial capability that they have along the coastline, now 371 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 9: we've got to get another layer behind it. So I 372 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 9: think that's what the military strikes are going to do. 373 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 9: I'm not sure where the people are coming in. I mean, 374 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 9: we're not invading Iran, we're not taking it over, We're 375 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 9: not doing that. So I'm not quite sure what that is. 376 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 9: I mean, we could, we could do this for a 377 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 9: long time and get the results we're looking for. 378 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: So but given the fact that all you need are 379 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: a couple of shots across a couple of bows to 380 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: effectively close the straight, eliminating their capabilities to that extent 381 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: seems like a near impossibility to me. 382 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: Don't you need to remove their will to do that. 383 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's two separate kind of lanes there, for sure. 384 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 9: The question is we can again trid it down to 385 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 9: the point where that probability becomes just so low. And 386 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 9: I think that's what we're doing, That's what we're trying 387 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 9: to do. The will question comes down to the separation 388 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 9: that you could see already between the Ministry of Foreign 389 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 9: Policy and the Ministry and the IRGC, I mean, one 390 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 9: side of the coin. They're trying to make a deal 391 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 9: these Trump says, they're calling them all the time to 392 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 9: make a deal. But the IRGC obviously isn't control of 393 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 9: everything here, so you know, and I think that they've 394 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 9: been very decentralized. Obviously, the intent is very clear, just 395 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 9: don't give up. And so the United States is going 396 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 9: to have to continue to pound away while other countries, 397 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 9: to the Gulf countries are looking for alternate means, which 398 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 9: is really the issue here. Create pipelines, don't don't give 399 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 9: the leverage back to the Ranians once this is over. 400 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 7: They can't ever control this in the future. And these 401 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 7: Gulf states are trying to recognize that as well. 402 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: So the Wall Street Journal's story was we the and 403 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: you know a few of information that's different than this, 404 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: feel free to tell us. But the reporting has been 405 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: that the part of the strait that we're saying is open, 406 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: no ships have gone through. And we made a big 407 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: on the radio announcement to the United States says it's open, 408 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: go ahead and come on through, and the only response 409 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: was somebody on another ship saying, f off, Then we're 410 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: not going through there. 411 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, there's there's a couple of pathways. There's one 412 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 9: close to Aman, which is what we believe is what's open. 413 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 9: It's what's getting through. It's not the hundred ships a day. Necessarily, 414 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 9: it's not an open passage. But you know, you know, again, 415 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 9: the military is going to overestimate I think, what it's capability, 416 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 9: its needs in order to get the job done, and 417 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 9: then try to come in under that. 418 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 7: Obviously. 419 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 9: I think that's where the Wall Street Journal is getting 420 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 9: those sources from, because sure, if you're a commander on 421 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 9: the ground to unlimited resources, you're going to say this 422 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 9: is what we need in order to make it, you know, 423 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 9: completely to completely open. We've always heard the chairman say degraded. 424 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 9: They're not completely destroyed. I know the President's is destroyed, 425 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 9: but that's a little bit different. 426 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: Military analyst Mike Lyons is on the line, So what 427 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: what would you say overall? Is the capability of the 428 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: Iranian military at this point? Are I mean, are they 429 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: just the only thing they can accomplish is frightening ships 430 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: in the Gulf essentially at this point exactly hanging on 431 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: the infrastructure, maybe in the neighborhood, Yeah. 432 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 7: Exactly, hanging on for dear life. 433 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 9: I mean again, with ninety percent degraded, they could still 434 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 9: have a few hundred missiles left and nothing comes at scale. 435 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 7: Everything is asymmetric. 436 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 9: What that means, it's the one off when you don't know, 437 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 9: it's the most challenging to defend against. It's consider it 438 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 9: to be terrorism on the sea. That's what they can do. 439 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 9: But that's all they have. And like anything else, like 440 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 9: we've defeated isis we just have to keep going at 441 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 9: it and keep. 442 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 7: A treading at it. 443 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 9: And frankly, as long as we're not bringing body bags 444 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 9: home here, this is fine. 445 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 7: I know. 446 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 9: I saw some smart and say, oh, this is now 447 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 9: going to turn in forever war. 448 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 7: No, it's not. Because we can't do this all day. 449 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 7: We can continue to. 450 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 9: Strike for the military, you know, one hundred or so 451 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 9: hundred strikes a day. 452 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 7: It's not the level of epic fury. 453 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 9: It's not eleven hundred, but it's also not six or seven, 454 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 9: which is all the Iranians are doing. Continue to leverage 455 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 9: on the economic side and the blockade as well. Something's 456 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 9: going to have to crumble inside Iran. I think this 457 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 9: is starting to be the beginning of the end, and 458 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 9: I think this is the strategy most of the military 459 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 9: wanted to see us do a couple months ago. 460 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: Well, I sure, hope you're right. I mean, that'd be fantastic. 461 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: If we hit them a couple hundred times a day, 462 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: day after day, eventually they fall. 463 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: They're not getting the revenue they need. 464 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: You know, there's enough internal conflict where people are saying 465 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: to each other, Hey, this ain't gonna work. 466 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: What's our long plan here? And the regime crumbles. 467 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, it works for now. 468 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 9: I mean again, what we kind of I'm not saying 469 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 9: I don't care we obviously you know, this is again 470 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 9: a good example of other countries should recognize. 471 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 7: This is the number one threat in the world right now. 472 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 9: This is this is it, and if we don't get it, 473 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 9: the Aradians they're going to control this then again, the 474 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 9: Trump arrangement syndrome, you know, obviously exists inside of NATO 475 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 9: and exists in some of these leaders here, but the 476 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 9: Gulf States are getting it because they're also been part 477 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 9: of the receiving end wanted two attacks still come that way. 478 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 7: This problem needs to be solved right. 479 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 9: Now, and I think the President is going to make 480 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 9: sure it gets solved before we go on to the 481 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 9: next thing. 482 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: Mike, I want to change topics just briefly, because we've 483 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: been talking about this a lot today and are going 484 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: to be talking about it more, including Marco Rubio's fantastic speech. 485 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 7: Of was it yesterday or yea tremendous. 486 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: And we've been talking about the success so far of 487 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: the Democratic Socialists of America's candidates in various elections, and 488 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: they're trying to take over the Democratic Party. 489 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've been watching this too. Any thoughts, Yeah, I'm. 490 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 9: Not sure that anyone in that party's ever got a 491 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 9: civics lesson. We have a Constitution of republic that's going nowhere, 492 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 9: and if they try to change that, then you're talking 493 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 9: we're back to the eighteen sixties again, and you want 494 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 9: to go there. That works out so again, I don't 495 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 9: think it's it's unfortunate gets a lot of press, and 496 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 9: I feel terrible. I'm not the political guy here obviously, 497 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 9: but you know, the Democrats have got a problem they 498 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 9: have to solve here. But if they think they're going 499 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 9: to defund the military and get rid of the Senate 500 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 9: and overturn this whatever they think they're they're just delusional. 501 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 9: And so oh yeah, that's civil war level stuff. So again, 502 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 9: you want to play hardball, We'll play hardball and we'll 503 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 9: see how that goes. 504 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: Military analyst Mike lyons, Mike, it's always great to talk. 505 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 1: As I said before, we'll stay in touch. Is the 506 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: is the situation of all Thanks great guys, Thanks for 507 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: having Yep. Well, he's pretty optimistic about the road we're 508 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: going down with the couple hundred strikes per day. 509 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: The old Wackensky is yep, we'll see. I don't know. 510 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: Well, I suppose at the end of the day it 511 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: might be what's the other option? Sure there is one, 512 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: so you take the best of your bad options. 513 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: Now, that's interesting his angle. 514 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: He this is something he thinks about because he is 515 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: in the military and talk to people at a high level. 516 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 2: That I don't always think about. 517 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: The people that leak that stuff to the Wall Street 518 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: Journal want a lot more stuff. They want people, planes, bullets, bombs, 519 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: all this stuff. And that's how you get it by saying, well, 520 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: we can do it, but it's gonna. 521 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: Be really, really, really hard. We're gonna need a lot 522 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: of stuff. 523 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: Well, you do that for reasons that are both perfectly 524 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: noble and maybe a little self serving. But yeah, yeah, 525 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: I if I'm a marine, I want to go in. 526 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 2: With overwhelming force the Powell doctrine. 527 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed, want me to hit you with something really 528 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: really stupid, or we take a break. If you like, 529 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: you're gonna complain about this, Oh, you're gonna yell. We 530 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: usually make people buy advertising. That's what you're gonna yell. Well, 531 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: if you know everything, I'm going to say, I'm going 532 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: to go play golf and you can just do me. 533 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: McDonald's has two brand new sandwich creations. 534 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 2: Normally we make people immediately hostile. 535 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: That is true. The honey brown butter, bacon, egg and 536 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: cheese biscuit. What is what is honey brown? What is 537 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: honey brown butter? Which one is brown? The honey the 538 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: butter In the English language is probably the butter a 539 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: taco bell. 540 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: It's the lettuce. Hell nailed them. Oh my god, he 541 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 2: might give people the poops. He tied it into the 542 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: news of the day. Did you hear that? Fantastic? All right? 543 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: So bad? 544 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: So you got the honey brown butter bacon, egg and 545 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: cheese biscuit, You're right, I don't know the descriptor. 546 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 2: Brown butter that isak and cheese biscuit. 547 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: That's eight words and much the honey brown butter chicken biscuit, 548 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: which is different than the bacon ag this git or 549 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: make honey 's. Well, they want you to know about 550 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: the honey brown butter, whatever the hell that is, and 551 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: fans are loving them apparently excellent. If they have one 552 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: of my local McDonald's, I'll try one today. Why are 553 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: the calories so high on this stuff? 554 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: Though? 555 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: I generally kind of like put my hand up to 556 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: the menu in front of my eye so I can't 557 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: read the calorie part if I met McDonald's. But like, 558 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: one of my go tos is a couple of cheeseburgers. 559 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: A couple of cheeseburgers, no onions. 560 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: That's all. 561 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: I get, two cheeseburgers, no onions, no fries, no drink. 562 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: Just said, But it's like eight hundred calories for two 563 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: tiny cheeseburgers. Why why are there so? How do they 564 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: pack so many calories in there? I don't know the fats, 565 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: I really don't know. That was the great thing about 566 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: being on that cruise. Judy and I were on no 567 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: calories anywhere. It was the international waters friends, the lawless 568 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: rum sod of me in the lash I receipt and 569 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: no calories on the menu. 570 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: It was fantastic. Make me walk the plank. You're gonna 571 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: need a thicker plank. Yeah, you better reinforce that plank. 572 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: H Do you tell me how they pack You don't 573 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: know how they pack all those extra calories into fast food. 574 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: It seems like a lot. 575 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: And what's that hun for? Tiny? For two tiny little burgers? 576 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 2: Look up making cheeseburgers or something at home. It ain't 577 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, I don't know what the deal is. 578 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, deliciousness, I guess has a lot of calories in it. 579 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: I will not eat at McDonald's coming up. You should 580 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: inconvenience yourself more often. I will explain. I have made 581 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: our lot, all of us. You, the general, you, the great, 582 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: you Uh, we've made our lives too frictionless. Oh okay, 583 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: great essay from one of my favorite young thinkers. 584 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: A lot of stuff on the way stay here. 585 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: So Marco Rubio, whose arrow is pointing up in terms 586 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: of his Q factor definitely is uh, gave it quite 587 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 1: a spe against socialism slash communism. Yesday will play some 588 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: of that now ur three. Yeah, just absolutely terrific. I 589 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: am a big fan. I'm also a big fan of 590 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: Roland Fryar, who is a young unconventional economist. 591 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: He teaches at Harvard. 592 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: He's a think tank guy, entrepreneur, but he writes about 593 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: all sorts of intriguing things and looks at them through 594 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: the lens of economic analysis and including friendship. And I'm 595 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: just I'm gonna hit you with a little little splash 596 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: of paint here, a little splash of paint there. 597 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: Then get to the point. It's gonna be. Like some 598 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: of my favorite songwriters, you don't know quite what's going on. 599 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: Great movies. 600 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: The ferry crossing from chap Equittic to edgar Town, Massachusetts 601 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,479 Speaker 1: is blah blah blah. No matter how rich or important 602 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: you are, you have to wait to get on the boat. 603 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes you wait in your car. Sometimes you get out, 604 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: someone complains about the line, the weather, our politics, or 605 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: the ups driver. It goes to the front of the queue. 606 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: Someone else laughs, the conversation begins, I've been on that ferry, 607 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: I think town, and then he talks about if modern 608 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: life hasn't has undersold inconvenience. We treat waiting as wasted time, 609 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: and often it is, but sometimes waiting does something useful. 610 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: It forces people into the same place with nothing to do, 611 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: long enough for conversation to begin. And then he points 612 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: out a number of studies that have called loneliness America's 613 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: greatest public health problem and the tie in between a 614 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: social circle and long life and happy life for all 615 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: sorts of age, cohorts and just it is undeniable that 616 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: social loneliness is a bad thing for a human beings 617 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: twenty ten research big study found that weak social relationships 618 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: predict mortality at a magnitude comparable to smoking and greater 619 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: than obesity or physical inactivity. 620 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: Loneliness linked to. 621 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: High risk of cardiovascular disease, dementia, stroke, depression, anxiety, and 622 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: premature death. 623 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: So he makes that. 624 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: Point, and then finally he winds back to what brings 625 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: me back to that ridiculously inconvenient fairy and what I 626 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: call the friction theory of friendship. The idea is simple, 627 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: Some inconveniences aren't merely costs. They are the hidden scaffolding 628 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: of social life. Then he, because he's an economist, he 629 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: has to crank out an equation. If I had to 630 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: estimate my own production function for friendship, it would look 631 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: something like this. Friendship equals proximity times repetition plus idle 632 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: time time's low stakes plus shared irritation. Proximity matters most 633 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: when it recurs. Idle time matters most when nobody is 634 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: trying to impress anyone. Shared irritation helps, but with diminishing returns. 635 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: He points out, a delayed fairy creates conversation, a broken 636 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: fairy creates rage. But he says, this is why friendship 637 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:57,479 Speaker 1: is often a product of something else, work, school, church children, sports, errands, 638 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: waiting rooms. It is produced not by misery, but by 639 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: enough common friction to make conversation natural. Modern life has 640 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: spent decades eliminating that friction. We can work without offices, 641 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: shop without stores, exercise without gyms, and communicate without looking 642 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: anyone in the eye. Each improvement is defensible, some phenomenal Together, 643 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: they have made interaction with other people increasingly optional. 644 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 2: I don't argue with any of that. I don't think 645 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 2: we're ever going back. 646 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: But I think about this all the time when I'm 647 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: in a line for anything at the airport, at the 648 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: coffee shop, I see people at the bus stop. Everybody's 649 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: looking at their phone, and think, what would this have 650 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: looked like. You don't have to go back far just 651 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Oh would this will look like twenty 652 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: thirty years ago? All these people in line to get 653 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: on the plane, you know, in the long tunnel after 654 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: you've shown your ticket. 655 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 2: Were we talking to each other? 656 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,959 Speaker 1: Were we I don't know, I don't remember what we 657 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: were doing, but we weren't all staring at a phone. 658 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: We definitely were not doing that, So we probably were 659 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: having small talk. Yeah, I disagree with you that we're 660 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,479 Speaker 1: going back. I think significant chunks of society will. And 661 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: part of the evidence of that, strangely, is the success 662 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: that the Democratic Socialists of America are having because they 663 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: perform social functions for young people, and young people are 664 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: loving that. But anyway, ah so, and then he talks. 665 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: Then he really gets into economist talk. But the main 666 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: point I want to make to you is that the 667 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 1: usual response is to blame phones. 668 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:28,919 Speaker 2: That's too easy. 669 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: The deeper forces the war on friction. We need to 670 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: interact with others, we need to find excuses to do it. 671 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: It's good, it's healthy. 672 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: I really wanted to have time in this to tell 673 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: the story of my dinner last night, Day two, Night 674 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: two in a row, sitting at the bar at the 675 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: golf club where I play, having dinner and and intoxicating 676 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: beverage and just chatting with people. Because normally Judy's been busy, 677 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: I would be at home alone eating a frozen pizza. 678 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: But partly because it's fantastic, partly because of this article, 679 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: I thought, no, just go see who you meet, run 680 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 1: into people. Chat Night one worked perfectly, ran into some friends, 681 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: had a lovely conversation to. 682 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 2: Night too. Yeah, well you should just see the other guy. 683 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 4: No. 684 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: Night two, I'm sitting there at the end of the 685 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: bar reading news, waiting for a conversation. 686 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 2: That happened. 687 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: Eight young females set up camp right next to me 688 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: and start chattering in a million miles a second, Oh God, 689 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty