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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: Here we are one Bill's Live on a Tuesday. Chris

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Speaker 2: Brown Steve Tasker with you, motoring through the week before

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Speaker 2: the big trans atlantic flight for the team on Thursday

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Speaker 2: evening into Friday. Friday is gonna be a tough day

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Speaker 2: for them and be flying through the night. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: land there at about five am, six am London time,

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Speaker 2: go through customs, probably get to their hotel when we

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Speaker 2: figure like an hour or so so nine am London time,

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Speaker 2: probably take a nap and then they got to get

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Speaker 2: out for a walkthrough that. Friday's gonna be a tough

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Speaker 2: turnaround man. Coach mc dermott was talking about Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Right, Thursday, Friday will be fine.

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Speaker 2: Saturday, Oh, Saturday, Saturday.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna you're wanna sleep for eighteen hours?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Friday, suck it up. Your body just says, I

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Speaker 2: got it.

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Speaker 1: We'll go. You get it. You get by on adrenaline,

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Speaker 1: you know, and then then that next ooh bro, yeah

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Speaker 1: it hurts.

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Speaker 2: Then all right, well it'll be interesting. Nonetheless, uh, I

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Speaker 2: found it. I found it almost strange that coach McDermott

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Speaker 2: has dodged just by where he's been in his coaching

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Speaker 2: career has dodged the international game. He's never done it before.

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Speaker 2: This is his first international game in a coaching career

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. It's gone over twenty years. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: like he's like an anomaly for the international game.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of guys haven't been.

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Speaker 2: Think there's more. I mean, I'm sure there are more.

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Speaker 1: But because if you think about it, I mean, Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: goes this will be their tenth game coming up against Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: it'll be Buffalo's sixth, eighth, ninth probably we had two

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Speaker 1: in the nineties and he had five, So to be

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Speaker 1: what is that?

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Speaker 2: Are you counting in the Toronto games?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the count he counts.

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Speaker 3: But as international games, that's a part of our Bills history.

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Speaker 2: I prefer to not remember.

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Speaker 1: Right, It's fine. So technically international games, Bills and the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars have more than anybody. But overseas, Bills have got

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Speaker 1: like three. Berlin, Wembley and now Tottendam. They played it

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Speaker 1: too at Wembley to at Wimbley.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they played there in twenty fifteen. I gotta

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Speaker 2: say it was really cool getting down on that field.

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Speaker 2: Which is one of the most famous.

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Speaker 1: Soccer pitches in the world, his famous pitch, you know.

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Speaker 2: And the funny thing was down on the grass field.

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Speaker 2: As we all know, a regulation soccer field at the

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Speaker 2: pro level is one hundred and twenty yards by eighty

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Speaker 2: yards wide, so it is almost thirty yards wider than

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Speaker 2: a football field. And so the sidelines and the corners

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Speaker 2: of the soccer field were still lined even though there

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Speaker 2: was a football field painted.

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Speaker 1: In the middle over it.

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Speaker 2: And so I had our team photographer take a quick

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Speaker 2: picture of me at the corner flag of the soccer field.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm in my work clothes. I'm pretending I'm

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Speaker 2: taking a corner kick at Wembley. It was kind of cool. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this time we're going to be in this palace that

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Speaker 2: is Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, which, as many of us already know,

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Speaker 2: is the stadium upon which the model for the Bill's

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Speaker 2: new stadium was drafted.

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Speaker 1: They're taking the Bill's crew the Brass through the tot

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Speaker 1: Hotspur Stadium, give them a look at it, see how

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Speaker 1: it works and what it looks like.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of those people have already done

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Speaker 2: that once before.

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Speaker 1: Yea, yes, And I think they're given a much larger

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Speaker 1: group a chance to do that while they're in London.

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Speaker 1: Well obviously, I mean they're playing in it.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of the elements that joint, a lot

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Speaker 2: of the elements of the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, we're incorporated

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Speaker 2: into the design of the Bill's new stadium.

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Speaker 1: We're looking at this right now as we're sitting here

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Speaker 1: watching their spinning around. Picture that now, picture Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: in a stadium like that. That's a pretty sweet little

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Speaker 2: And that's the idea that canopy covers.

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Speaker 1: And it's also that's the outside right there too, where

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Speaker 1: they confuse the wind as it comes in through is

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Speaker 2: They have that. Look at that, So on that far side,

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Speaker 2: on the far side, they have that overhang with the

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Speaker 2: big bird on the soccer ball. That's the Tottendam Hotspur

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Speaker 2: I think it's a rooster. I think it is. That's

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Speaker 2: their logo and they have it on top of the

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Speaker 2: There's like a skywalk that people walk out onto there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I could swing that, Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: But it's the Palace and we've all heard of them.

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Speaker 1: You know. The unique design of these new stadiums is

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Speaker 1: that you know how the concession stands and the locker

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Speaker 1: rooms and the even they put the dugouts, we are

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Speaker 1: all tucked up underneath the up the seats, you know,

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Speaker 1: underneath the stadium. Well in the new ones, they don't

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Speaker 1: do that. They put it out away from the seats

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Speaker 1: so that all concourses and stuff you walk around you

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Speaker 1: can still see a field. That's right.

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Speaker 2: Visible field is visible from almost wherever you are in

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Speaker 2: the stadium. So the people will be the case here

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Speaker 2: in Buffalo with the new place, which is cool, awesome idea.

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Speaker 2: And you can circumnavigate the place on one concourse, like

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Speaker 2: you don't have to go down some stairs and out

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Speaker 2: some other way to get to another.

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Speaker 1: Gate on one concourse.

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Speaker 2: That's what you're gonna be able to do in the

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Speaker 2: new stadium. You can get so if you've got friends

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Speaker 2: that have seen tickets on the other side of the stadium,

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Speaker 2: you walk over there, and you walk over there to

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Speaker 2: see them at halftime, and you never have to change

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too. The cool thing about it

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Speaker 1: is there's gonna be one of the things about the

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Speaker 1: new stadium that they made clear they needed, particularly given

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Speaker 1: the state of the fan base right now, since it's

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Speaker 1: this big family, is a lot of gathering places. So

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a whole lot of villion. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be lots of spots on all the levels, like

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Speaker 1: the upper level, and they're gonna have gatherings places where

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Speaker 1: people can go over and just hang you know, very cool.

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Speaker 2: You know that'll be you know, and that'll be most

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Speaker 2: fruitful or most better. Official is when you've got a

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Speaker 2: bad weather day here, you can go under me Tailgating

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Speaker 2: becomes kind of cumbersome. You know, you brave the elements

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Speaker 2: stand out of the wind. That bar in the upper

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Speaker 2: deck sounds really good right now because it's inside and

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Speaker 2: then and the gates open two hours before kickoffs. So

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Speaker 2: I'm going in there at eleven.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in and have a pop inside. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I watch him though, I'll let him warm up. I'll

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Speaker 2: The three hours I'm gonna be sitting outside.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna yeah, that's that's good stuff. Yeah, so yeah,

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Speaker 3: we'll looking forward to it for sure. And you know,

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Speaker 3: if I I spot anything noteworthy, I'll be sure to

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Speaker 2: And uh yeah, should be a fun time over there.

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Speaker 2: Bill's have an opponent to worry about. Well, we're you know,

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Speaker 2: worrying about the sights and the sounds in the Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 2: who got off a two game losing streak last week

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Speaker 2: with the win over Atlanta and the other Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: steve pretty big day last week threeas he now is

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Speaker 2: tied for the league lead in sacks with six. Off

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Speaker 2: to a fast start for the Jaguars. And you know,

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Speaker 2: let's not forget that Trayvon Walker is another guy they

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Speaker 2: have on the other side at outside linebacker, the former

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Speaker 2: number one pick in the draft two years ago, so

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Speaker 2: they got some talent over there. I'm very interested to

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Speaker 2: see the pass protection plan this week for the Bills,

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Speaker 2: knowing you don't have just one guy to worry about,

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Speaker 2: you got two. You know, the Bills dodged a bit

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Speaker 2: of a bullet last week. No Jalen Phillips for the Dolphins,

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Speaker 2: so really they could focus on Bradley Chubb and maybe

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Speaker 2: Christian Wilkins. Van Ginkel's a nice player, but he's not

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Speaker 2: Jalen Phillips and the week before did a great job

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Speaker 2: on that talented front four that the Commanders have got

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Speaker 2: some two high end players this week, two former first

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Speaker 2: round picks and Josh Allen and Trayvon Walker.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot about this first month of the

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Speaker 1: season that we've heard about, you know. And we'll have

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Speaker 1: Dan Orlovsky on, as you said two thirty today, but

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Speaker 1: we'll ask him about it more. But the Bills and

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Speaker 1: Orlovsky's been one of those guys that's been trumpeting this.

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Speaker 1: The Bills has been using a lot of under center,

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Speaker 1: putting Josh under center. And when you go under center,

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Speaker 1: play action becomes a bigger part of everything, and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden you start looking at numbers. After the

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Speaker 1: first month, Josh is killing people with play action. He's

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Speaker 1: got a perfect passer rating.

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven to thirty three, four hundred and fifty one yards,

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Speaker 2: five touchdowns, no picks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty good stat line of play action, that's all.

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Speaker 1: And it's under center too, And I think one of

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Speaker 1: and I kind of doubled down on it. It's really

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Speaker 1: helping the offensive line play better having him under center

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Speaker 1: and doing that play action stuff and having the run

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Speaker 1: game be good. Of course does and having them be

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Speaker 1: good in the run game. They are a good line,

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Speaker 1: I mean, but I think it really helps them having

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Speaker 1: and having the defense thinking, Okay, here comes a big

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Speaker 1: boy run and then it's not. Ken Dorsey deserves some

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Speaker 1: kudos for that and helping his offensive line get their

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Speaker 1: and play action. It's been it's been good, but I

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Speaker 1: think that under center and play action has been one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just like the way it allows the

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Speaker 2: not throwing in and reverse every snap of the game

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Speaker 2: or eighty percent of the game. You can fire off

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Speaker 2: you mentioned. So yeah, for my money, I more of that, please,

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Speaker 2: more of that, please. I also went back and looked again,

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Speaker 2: and I asked Stefon Diggs after the game, you know,

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Speaker 2: did you were you used in motion even more than

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Speaker 2: you typically are? He didn't think so. I think I

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Speaker 2: nailed down what I was seeing after looking at the

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Speaker 2: game again, Uh, to have a to probably formulate a

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Speaker 2: better question than I did on Sunday after the game.

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Speaker 2: But it was essentially they used more late motion with

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Speaker 2: Digs from what I could see. Again. You know, I'm

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Speaker 2: cutting up the x's and o's. But what I noticed

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Speaker 2: there was it seemed like they motioned him later and

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Speaker 2: Here's the main reason it's encouraging. Right now, the Bills

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Speaker 1: And if you're gonna sit somebody down you're talking about

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Speaker 2: Kay here, I'm talking about the fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 1: Oh sure, I get you.

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Speaker 2: he has won, and it's for the play in which

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Speaker 2: he railroaded Javon Holland. First, he mean mugged him with

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Speaker 2: a stiff arm in the face. Yes, and then ran

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Speaker 2: over him and like body rolled him. It was uh,

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Speaker 2: it was quite disrespectful, I would say, in a good way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he yeah, he punked him a little bit.

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Speaker 2: He told the safety to sit down and take it.

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Speaker 1: Said, yeah, it's like it was. There's a there's a

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Speaker 1: couple of kinds of fake stiff arms. The stiff farm

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Speaker 1: that Dawson Knox seems to use. Isn't the stiff arm

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Speaker 1: like the classic stiff arms. Now stay back. It's more

443
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Speaker 1: of a it's more of a push to get off,

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Speaker 1: get off me. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: So this is stay off me straight arm is stay

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Speaker 2: off me. Yours. The Dawson Knox one is get off me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's so.

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Speaker 2: It was an extra element of nasty to it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there is a little leverage involves it was nice.

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Speaker 1: And then then rolled him. Yeah yeah.

452
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Speaker 2: I thought Kyle Brandt was gonna pop out of his shirt.

453
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Speaker 1: He was always excited about it.

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Speaker 2: And that guy's out of breath by the end of

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Speaker 2: that segment. It's unbelievable. So yeah, so congrats to Dawson Knox.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait to see that scepter photo on Bill's social

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Speaker 2: media in the not too distant future, Let's go around

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Speaker 2: the NFL quickly. Here presented by Kalida Health, the official

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Speaker 2: healthcare system of the Bills. And more bad news for

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Speaker 2: the New England Patriots, Steve. Two of their best defensive

461
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Speaker 2: players are gonna be missing some time. Matthew Judhon, their

462
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Speaker 2: top pass rusher, gonna have surgery on his biceps tension,

463
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Speaker 2: which was injured last week against Dallas. He's gonna miss

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Speaker 2: about eight weeks. They said he's out indefinitely, but the

465
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Speaker 2: prognosis is eight weeks. He's hoping to play again this season.

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Speaker 2: That will obviously take him out of the equation in

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Speaker 2: Week seven, when the Bills travel to New England to

468
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Speaker 2: play the Patriots, they also are likely to be without

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Speaker 2: cornerback Christian Gonzales with a shoulder injury. He is out

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Speaker 2: indefinitely as well for them. He's probably their best man

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Speaker 2: cover corner. Did a nice job on Tyreek Hill a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. He is out with a shoulder

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Speaker 2: injury indefinitely, so he is probably doubtful for that Week

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Speaker 2: seven Bills game as well. For the Patriots, that's really

475
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Speaker 2: putting them in a short handed situation and they've got issues,

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Speaker 2: to say the least, after getting trounced last week thirty

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Speaker 2: eight to three. So I'm sure a lot of people

478
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Speaker 2: out there feel sorry for them. Monday night football, Sorry

479
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Speaker 2: was that too obvious?

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Speaker 1: The suncasm was dripping.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I can't help it. Monday Night Football not a

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Speaker 2: good night for Giants quarterback Daniel Jones. Brian Dable was

483
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Speaker 2: as hot as I've ever seen him in being disappointed

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Speaker 2: in a quarterback. He's jawn with him on the way

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Speaker 2: off the field, like why are you checking that down?

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Speaker 6: For?

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Speaker 2: What are you looking at now? Look, he didn't get

488
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Speaker 2: a lot of help. He got sacked nine times in

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Speaker 2: the game. And I don't know. I think he struggles

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Speaker 2: with making adjustments in the protections sometimes and it leaves

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Speaker 2: him vulnerable as well as his offensive line to block

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Speaker 2: it up. Not to take any credit away from the Seahawks,

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Speaker 2: they had a nice and impressive defensive performance. But I

494
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Speaker 2: saw some people drawing some things up on social media,

495
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Speaker 2: Dan Orlovski among them, and it's his opinion that he's

496
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Speaker 2: got to adjust the protections and he's not right now

497
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Speaker 2: when the pre snap look is different and it's it's

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Speaker 2: costing him because he's winding up on his back.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's going to blame but himself. If it's a him,

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Speaker 1: it's a protection issue. If it's a protection it's one thing.

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Speaker 1: If his protection can't hold up, even when they got

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Speaker 1: a hat on a hat, it's another one if they

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Speaker 1: would have they got enough protectors and they're just stepping

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Speaker 1: the wrong direction because the quarterback's not seeing it. That's

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Speaker 1: his own that's his fault. So it's got to be

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Speaker 1: one of the other. And sometimes I think this offensive

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Speaker 1: line is getting put on sleds and pushed back into

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Speaker 1: his lap. And other times it probably is the fact

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Speaker 1: that this he's got the offensive line step in one

510
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Speaker 1: direction and the rush is coming from the other. So

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Speaker 1: you know what that means. They got lots of problems.

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Speaker 2: Well and I and the deck was kind of stacked

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Speaker 2: against him from the jump because Saquon Barkley was inactive

514
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Speaker 2: for this game, and with him out, there's less for

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks defense to account for. So it's like, let's

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Speaker 2: go get the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But they still got to. I mean, they're gonna treat

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Speaker 1: every running back like the guy. They're gonna treat every

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Speaker 1: running back like they're gonna treat Saquon Barkley, probably because

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Speaker 1: they don't see him that much. They're gonna treat Saquon

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Speaker 1: Barkley like he's the option number one in the in

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Speaker 1: the offense. That's not gonna change drastically when another guy

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Speaker 1: comes in, because you know what I mean. So it's

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Speaker 1: not like they're gonna they may double at Saque at times,

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Speaker 1: or maybe put a spy on him in screen pass situations,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, that doesn't vastly change a running back

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Speaker 1: is not vastly changing the defensive philosophy of a team.

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Speaker 1: It may just give them something to think about in

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Speaker 1: certain situations, like, hey, this is their number one option guy.

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Speaker 1: So but man, oh man, the Giants caught lightning in

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Speaker 1: a bottle last year a little bit over. They got

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Speaker 1: off to a fast start day Bowl. You know, in

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Speaker 1: the week game, right in Week one, he gives it

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Speaker 1: to Saquon on the goal line to win the game,

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Speaker 1: and they do it, and they get off to that,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So they had some mojo working. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to continue that without really good players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think I would argue they overachieved last year,

539
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Speaker 2: made the playoffs. Now they're one in three after four games.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones does not look like the guy, which I

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Speaker 2: thought last year.

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Speaker 1: We've said it all along.

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Speaker 2: They were kind of between a rock and a hard

544
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Speaker 2: place last year with their quarterback situation. And so yes,

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Speaker 2: they signed him to a big contract that pays him

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Speaker 2: forty million a year. He's not a forty million dollars

547
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Speaker 2: a year quarterback. The guy only threw fifteen touchdown passes

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Speaker 2: last year. That's not somebody a hand forty million. Giants

549
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Speaker 2: kind of had to do it because they didn't really

550
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Speaker 2: have another good quarterback answer. And they can get out

551
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Speaker 2: of this contract in twenty twenty five, so they're locked

552
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Speaker 2: into him this year and next year. But I'm telling

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Speaker 2: you right now, Joe Shane's gonna pull a brand in

554
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Speaker 2: bean next year. He's gonna go up in the in

555
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Speaker 2: round one wherever they finish and go get a quarterback,

556
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Speaker 2: and if he's good enough to start next year, he'll start.

557
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Speaker 2: If not, Daniel Jones is the bridge to the new guy,

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Speaker 2: because Jones ain't it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Well, yeah, you you and I thought that.

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Speaker 1: I've always thought Daniel Jones was not the guy. I mean,

561
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Speaker 1: you say it all the time. He threw him fifteen touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Josh is I mean that's.

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Speaker 2: Not good enough.

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Speaker 1: It's not good enough. It's not good And he's in

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Speaker 1: a touchdown a week. And he's not athletic or nimble

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Speaker 1: enough to escape well enough to give himself a chance

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Speaker 1: to snap off some big plays with his legs. He'll

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Speaker 1: do it once in a while, but he doesn't do

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Speaker 1: it well enough or often enough. When he does, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't make he doesn't have an elite arm. He's one

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Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks. I don't even I would take Kirk

572
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Speaker 1: Cousins over.

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Speaker 3: Him, you know what I mean, at least not Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 2: Kirk's productive, yes, year over yet season you get.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is I mean he's getting I mean, only buddy.

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Speaker 1: The only person who's fumbled more than Daniel Jones is

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Speaker 1: Josh and Josh. I mean, goodness since twenty nineteen, that is,

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Speaker 1: and John good grief, Josh was laying it on the

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Speaker 1: ground all the time for a minute, for for a while.

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Speaker 1: You know, now he's getting better. You know, Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: has been around for a minute.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is his fifth season.

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, yeah, I think this his ceiling

584
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Speaker 3: hits the ceiling, that is the ceiling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you don't give a guy like that forty

586
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Speaker 1: two million a year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just I didn't understand it. I get that

588
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: they didn't have another answer, but I are you doing

589
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: that much work?

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you get the feeling the teams in New York,

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Speaker 1: the Jets and the Giants, most notably, who, by the way,

592
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Speaker 1: are the only two teams in the league who have

593
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Speaker 1: not run an offensive play with a lead in this season.

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Speaker 2: Wow. I didn't see that, really saw it.

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Speaker 1: Somebody I give the credit. I don't know where it's credit,

596
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Speaker 1: but somebody said they are the only two teams. I

597
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: read it this morning.

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00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: Right, they won the Week one game on a you know,

599
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: the score was tied.

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Speaker 1: They have not neither one of those teams. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: I think those two teams in New York they feel

602
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Speaker 1: like they are not allowed to make some decisions that

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Speaker 1: are best for like last year would have been the year,

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Speaker 1: like we're not doing Daniel Jones. We're gonna go out

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Speaker 1: on the free We're gonna bring a free agent in here,

606
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna and we're gonna go with what we got.

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Speaker 2: The backup quarterbacks. You could have done that exactly.

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Speaker 1: He's a playoff quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You could have done that.

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00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: So anyway, you they just don't do that stuff. And

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Speaker 1: you can say what you want about the Jets go

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Speaker 1: and they've never had a really good quarterback since Joe.

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Speaker 1: And let me say, I love Joe Namath. He's a

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Speaker 1: sweetheart of a guy. I mean, he wasn't. Statistically he

615
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Speaker 1: was not very good, but.

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Speaker 2: I think he's got a losing playoff record.

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Speaker 1: Look at his numbers. Yeah, but I'll say he was

618
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: money though. So anyway, they haven't had a good quarterback,

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Speaker 1: so they they weren't gonna go into this season with

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Speaker 1: nobody with a guy who they could have. How much

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Speaker 1: worse could Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 2: Being you know, I don't know if that.

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Speaker 1: Thinking about it, he's out there and you thinking there.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, there's a percentage of a bigger

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Speaker 1: percentage today the Giants would trade him right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah maybe maybe, and you'd.

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Speaker 1: Have gotten him. You know, I'm sorry, but here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: At least thing is it's a mess, yes, and at

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Speaker 1: least it gives you a chance for some hope. And

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Speaker 1: now you're saving forty two million dollars a year over

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Speaker 1: the next four or five years. And now you got

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Speaker 1: a chance to go up. And even if you stink

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Speaker 1: this year, which you are stinking this year, anyway, you

634
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Speaker 1: got a chance to get a guy like Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: or one of those guys coming out who got a chance.

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Speaker 2: We are laid for the break. Topic of discussion, how

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Speaker 2: confident are you that Josh Allen and the offense can

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Speaker 2: sustain their current level of efficiency? It is off the

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Speaker 2: charts right now. We all hope it continues. What's your

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Speaker 2: level of confidence that it will eight h three zero

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Speaker 2: five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 2: your phone calls when we come back here on One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Stay tuned. All right, We're back here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live on a Tuesday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: with you. Where we are asking you, how confident are

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Speaker 2: you that Josh Allen the offense because ken sustain this

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Speaker 2: high level of efficiency? I mean, we love to see it,

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Speaker 2: but is it realistic to expect it to be this

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Speaker 2: good every single week? You let us know eight oh

650
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Speaker 2: three oh five point fifty one eight eight eight five

651
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Speaker 2: point fifty two five fifty. Those are the numbers to

652
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 2: get on board. We do have open lines for you,

653
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Speaker 2: but we are going to go to the phones and

654
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Speaker 2: leading us off is Steve and Tonawanda. What do you

655
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Speaker 2: got for a Steve, you're on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 7: Hey, what's going on? Fellas? I enjoy the show, listen

657
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 7: to your comments. I've just got a quick couple and

658
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 7: I'll add to your topic. To sustain it all years,

659
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 7: I mean, you're asking for a miracle, You're asking for

660
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 7: no injuries. I mean, I think we go as far

661
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 7: as our old line goes this year. I mean that's

662
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 7: what's opening up the wrong game, which is open up

663
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 7: to play action and Josh has got time back there.

664
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Speaker 7: But injuries are going to happen. They're gonna have it.

665
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 7: Look at two years ago tables. Last year, that was

666
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 7: our best offense a year, and we went down to

667
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 7: Jacksonville late in Ay. I mean, it's it's just not

668
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 7: going to happen all year alone. But I have a

669
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Speaker 7: flip question and then I'll hang up. I was wondering

670
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 7: you think that the Jaguars are down there for two weeks,

671
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 7: that's right, and acclimated to the time change and all

672
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 7: that is that going to affect Do they have an

673
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 7: advantage over the bills being going down there on Friday?

674
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Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this, yeah, all right, that's a good question.

675
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: I'll say this. You could see it as an an

676
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: advant It depends. It could be both. It could be

677
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: an advantage because they'll be acclimated, they'll have a routine,

678
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: they'll have you know, they get a little bit more uh,

679
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: you know, comfortable in there in the environments where they're

680
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: meeting in strange places. You know, they got meeting rooms,

681
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: they got to you know, guys, they they spend all

682
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: day over here and they're only on a practice field

683
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: for like ninety minutes or two hours. So the rest

684
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: of the day is in the training room, in the

685
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: meeting rooms, in the film rooms, watching and doing all that.

686
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: So you've got to have a place to do all

687
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: of that in this new place. So the more comfortable

688
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: you get, the more efficient you get. And it's like

689
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: everything else. But you're like two weeks on the road.

690
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: You're away from homes, living in a hotel in a city.

691
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: You're living out of a suitcase. Your meals are all cafeterius.

692
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: You know, they're all banquet food down in the in

693
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Speaker 1: the you know, in the ballroom of the hotel, right.

694
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: Or something like that. English, it's not gonna be great.

695
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: So by the end of this week, these guys are

696
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: like going to make get me home, you know, So

697
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some of that going on. So it

698
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: might have been an might have been an advantage being

699
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Speaker 1: there for a week before the the Atlanta game, And

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Speaker 1: if in fact they were I think they were.

701
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: I think they went out early.

702
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: They went out early, and they're stayed, so it might

703
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: have been an advantage for the Atlanta game. But by

704
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: the time this week is getting close to being over,

705
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: they may be their bags are going to be packed

706
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: and they're gonna get on the flight and come home,

707
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: and they're they're gonna be really happy.

708
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: To do it, be itching to do it.

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00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know whether that turns an advantage

710
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: into a disadvantage or not.

711
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the Bills are playing the complete other end

712
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: of the spectrum. I mean, they're not going to get

713
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: there till Friday morning London time, flying overnight Thursday into Friday,

714
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: you know, losing five hours going over there, so it'll

715
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: be Friday morning by the time they land. Friday will

716
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: be a little bit of a blur, like practice and

717
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: then sleep, try to get adjusted on Saturday, play on Sunday.

718
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: But maybe the team doesn't make the effort to adjust, right.

719
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: Maybe they just say, let's stay on Eastern time. Granted

720
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: we are playing at nine thirty, but it's not like

721
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 2: this team didn't do training camp practices at nine thirty

722
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: in the morning. I don't know if it's completely foreign.

723
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: I realize the practice is than a game, right, but

724
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: i've when you push it that far to the end

725
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: of the week. And we've seen this before with teams

726
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 2: that fly out west, some leave a day earlier than

727
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: normal to try to get adjusted to a three hour

728
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: time change. Some travel is normal. Just say stay on

729
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: Eastern time. The heck with it.

730
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll play. We'll play at ten am instead of

731
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: noon or one. You know, but they'll.

732
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Speaker 2: Consider it one because they're not adjusting. They're just saying

733
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 2: it's still one o'clock.

734
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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 2: We're just on the West coast where they say it's ten,

736
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Speaker 2: it's one to us. That's the other way to do

737
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: it with a five hour time change. Maybe that's not

738
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: as realistic, but I'm very interested to see how both

739
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: teams come out at the start of this game on

740
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Speaker 2: Sunday based on those things that you mentioned. Good call, Steve.

741
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: We go to Rick and Hamburg next, What do you

742
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: got for us?

743
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 5: Rick?

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00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, how are you? I appreciate taking my call?

745
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 8: You know, I had a couple of points to well.

746
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 8: The first one was the offensive line got so maligned.

747
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 8: You know during the offseason, people questioning Brown and Dawkins

748
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 8: and whoever else you want to throw in there. And

749
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 8: I know Allen and Diggs and all them guys getting

750
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 8: the credit, But you don't have this success unless the

751
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 8: offensive line is playing good. Maybe because I played old

752
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 8: line and I love the old line, but these guys

753
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 8: are just playing balls out since that first week. And

754
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what. You know, your question whether or

755
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 8: not they can sustain this If the old line continues

756
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 8: play like they are, and Josh plays, you know, refined

757
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 8: and thinks twice before he does something silly. When he

758
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 8: plays in control and uses his head and lets the

759
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 8: game come to him, he's a totally different quarterback. And

760
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 8: with his athleticism and the weapons he's got, this offense

761
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 8: can be unstoppable. If these three weeks continue on to

762
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 8: the next five to six, eight weeks.

763
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Rick, and thanks for the call. It

764
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: might be a big ask because we know that at

765
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: least the last few years, there's always one or two

766
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: stinkers in there somewhere where the effort and the performance

767
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: and the execution just I shouldn't say, the effort, the

768
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: execution and the performance just isn't up to snuff and

769
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: you just have a bad week and seventeen games. With

770
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: the level of competition in this league. I hate to

771
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: say it, but it will probably happen once or twice.

772
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: You already referenced the Jacksonville game, or one of our

773
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: callers did two years ago, nine to six. They't even

774
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 2: get in the end zone.

775
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: Right, and the Jaguar, I guess the one win team

776
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: and the jag the Jaguars. Josh Allen played way better

777
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: than the Bills. Josh Allen in that one. He was

778
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: really good. He's and he still is. He's he still

779
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: seemed to be like a course, he's a He's an

780
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: ascending player, no question about it. You're right. The offensive

781
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: line has been very good this year. We've been talking

782
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: about it for the last day or two, and you're

783
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: you know, you can be an old offensive lineman and

784
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: talk about offensive line all you want. They are important,

785
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: And ask the Giants this morning how their offensive line

786
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: looked yesterday. You just can't do it without those guys.

787
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: That's Some teams are good because of those guys, and

788
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: some teams are bad for the same reason.

789
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting to say the least, but yeah, I mean,

790
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: you strive to be that efficient every week. I also

791
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: agree with Rick's take about Josh. I want to say

792
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: when he plays within structure, but I don't know if

793
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: you could ever say he plays within structure, because he

794
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 2: does do half a dozen things of a game that

795
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: are completely out of structure and off script, and some

796
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: of them, more often than not, are spectacular. And maybe

797
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: if you could just play within the framework of the

798
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: offense and make five or six Josh Allen type plays

799
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: a week, and the and the offensive line plays the

800
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 2: way they have, and the skill position players execute the

801
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: way they execute. This thing's a wagon, yeah it is.

802
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: It's not so much about you know, Josh playing with him.

803
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: He always he always has that in and where he

804
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: snaps out of a bad play and makes something happen

805
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: on his own. That's part of what the allure is.

806
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: But I think the thing that we look at is

807
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: just his ability now to just get rid of it.

808
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: He is not. If you looked at him play on

809
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: Sunday against the Dolphins and looked at his best game

810
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: from his first year, he's a completely different guy. He

811
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: only ran the ball four times. I mean that's I

812
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: mean he was running it ten times at least, right,

813
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: So he just he's and he took a couple of sacks.

814
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: You never see him take sacks back in the day.

815
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: Right he'd run around, he'd thrown in, he'd thrown in completion,

816
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: or you know, heave it down the field or run

817
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: out of bounds, but you never see him get tackled.

818
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: He's just a completely different guy. Now the results are

819
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: kind of pretty much the same. He'll make a handful

820
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: of off the chain plays. But now, I told you yesterday,

821
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: the thing that's so crazy about it when he's throwing

822
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: like he did and it looks easy. It's amazing how

823
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: effortless it looks, not just for him but for all

824
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: these guys.

825
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: And Dorsey deserves some credit for that too, for creating

826
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: those easy throw opportunities, easy windows to throw into, etc.

827
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here more of your phone calls

828
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: when we come back, Phil and Buffalo will lead us

829
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 2: off when we return here on One Bill's Live presented

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831
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,440
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832
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834
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Speaker 2: the phones we go, where we are asking you today,

835
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: how confident are you that Josh Allen the offense can

836
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: sustain this high level of efficiency? Might be a lot

837
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: to ask, but we want to know what you think.

838
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: At eight h three oh five fifty to fill in,

839
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: Buffalo we go, What do you have for us?

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00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 4: Phil Heny, thanks for taking my call.

841
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

842
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 4: I can't see how any NFL could sustain this level

843
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 4: of efficiency. And a good example of us last year.

844
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 4: I think we were literally unstoppable. Similarly through the maybe

845
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 4: first six, seven, eight games I can't remember, and then suddenly,

846
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 4: you know, we hit the brakes. I mean all of

847
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 4: a sudden and really from the midpoint of last year on,

848
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 4: although we'd score thirty points, there just wasn't that level

849
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 4: of efficiency. After mid season last year. Now, I know

850
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 4: there was speculation that the defense is caught up with

851
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 4: Dorsey last year and he really didn't adapt to that.

852
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's the truth. I do recall

853
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 4: Josh just losing a little bit of confidence for some

854
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 4: reason mid season, and while guys were still getting open,

855
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 4: but he just wasn't finding them, and he was starting

856
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 4: to get happy feet and scrambling more and just lost

857
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 4: a little bit of confidence. So I can't not to

858
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 4: say that that's going to happen this year. But I

859
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 4: can't imagine that we can sustain that level unless the

860
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 4: caller before this was spot on. If the offensive line

861
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 4: stays healthy and they maintained their level of play, that's

862
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 4: the only possible way we have a possibility for us.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair. I'll buy that for a dollar, Phil.

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Speaker 2: Let's not forget also the last year that the Bills

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Speaker 2: were second in the league and drops and I would

866
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Speaker 2: say he got his elbow hurt. Josh got his elbow hurt,

867
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Speaker 2: which may have contributed to the confidence factor that you referenced, Phil,

868
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: But why did it look like a heavy lift for

869
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: all of those factors, Josh getting his elbow hurt a

870
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: myriad of injuries and being second in the league and

871
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: drop passes. None of those things helped, and they were

872
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: still number one and third down conversions.

873
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they were really good last year, even when

874
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: it seemed like it was a heavy lift. And I

875
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: think one of the things that happened too, and I

876
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: don't know if this is a real thing or not,

877
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: but you kind of you see the logic of where

878
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: it takes is that the expectations when you see a

879
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: team start out the season like the Bills have started

880
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: out the season, the expectations are like you saw against Miami,

881
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: that's the expectation, and anything short of that and it

882
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 1: seems like, h it doesn't seem right and you start trying.

883
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: And we sat through this whole thing in the off season.

884
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: They were number two in scoring, number one on third

885
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: down there they were running away from people and people

886
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: are well and like they really they needed to overhaul

887
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: the whole offense. Wow, we need to we got to

888
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: do this. We got no. Oh, ain't nothing broke on

889
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: this offense. You're just not going to be able to

890
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: score forty eight points every single week in the league

891
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: is tough to win in as the NFL it's just

892
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. And a little bit of that I

893
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 1: think comes into play here as well. The expectation gets

894
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: raised so high that it becomes the unrealistic and impossible

895
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: to meet.

896
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: Let's take a look at the tweet sheet brought to

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Speaker 2: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company

898
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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills. As we are asking you, how

899
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: confident are you that Allen and the offense can sustain

900
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: this high level of efficiency? Might not be realistic, but

901
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,479
Speaker 2: we want to know where you guys stand. Adam says,

902
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: he's still taking the shots down the field, but only

903
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 2: when they are there. That's the big difference. He's still Josh,

904
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: but he's not having to force the issue. Yeah, they've

905
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 2: been able to stay on schedule down in distance wise

906
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: for the most part, you know, unless penalties come into

907
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: play or the occasional negative play, and even then sometimes

908
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: they're able to overcome it. So yeah, it's encouraging for sure,

909
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 2: but is it realistic. There's just gonna I think there's

910
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 2: just gonna be one or two games in there along

911
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: the way where it's not gonna be running like a

912
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: well oiled machine, and they're gonna have to kind of

913
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: fight their way through it and kind of do what

914
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: the Chiefs did on Sunday night. Win ugly.

915
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: You win it with defense, you win it with a

916
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: play here and there, and you win because the other

917
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: team makes a mistake, you know, all those things. The

918
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: way this team is structured, though, I mean, let's face it,

919
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 1: we we've seen this team win with defense. We've seen

920
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 1: it win with a running game. We've seen obviously Josh

921
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: throwing the ball all over the yard and beating people

922
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: and ringing them up with big numbers. But this team

923
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: is a contender and has been a contender for the

924
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: last four or five years because they can beat you

925
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: any which way you want. That's why they're good. Certainly,

926
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Speaker 1: Josh is the wild card and all of that. He

927
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: can kind of he's the trump card for you know,

928
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: snapping off a big play whenever they've got the ball.

929
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: But the defense has shown up in big moments as well.

930
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: And this year we have with Vaughan coming back in

931
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: the and the way the numbers are telling us they're

932
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 1: playing now, the pressure they can get with just four

933
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: guys that is consistent and fast, that's a combination that's

934
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: going to allow him to win some games maybe in

935
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: years past when they do have these swoons offensively that

936
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Speaker 1: they're going to win anyway.

937
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the maturity of Rousseau. Yeah, the development of Ed

938
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: Oliver's game.

939
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Speaker 1: Aj Pessa has.

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Speaker 2: As in year four has it's finally clicked for him,

941
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: it seems like it.

942
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

943
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 2: And Daikwan Jones is steady Eddie in there, man, I

944
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: mean he is that guy is an unsung hero on

945
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: this roster. I thought he was their best run stuff

946
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 2: for last year. He's right back at it again this year.

947
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: And him with Ed Oliver, who has been refurbished and rejuvenate,

948
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 1: I mean like Edg's like a different guy is.

949
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 2: Because the the week two week consistency, is there that difference.

950
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you look at him. You can feel his energy,

951
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you can just feel him.

952
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: You can see him He's gonna pop out of his

953
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: own Yeah, you can see him just exploding out of

954
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Speaker 1: his skin. You know, he just wants it. So all

955
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: of those things together and I don't know, you know,

956
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: Epineza is a guy that we've been waiting on and

957
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: here he is, you know, he's finally shown up and

958
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: making and the pick six, you know, not being the

959
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Speaker 1: least of which, of course Rousseau being consistent. Uh. And

960
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Speaker 1: of course now we're just in four weeks, they're all healthy.

961
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Speaker 1: Still we can see the top end of what they

962
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: can be and theory, and that's why our question is

963
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: what it is today? Can they keep it up?

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here our number two on tap,

965
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Speaker 2: which will include ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlovsky. But we

966
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 2: are taking more of your phone calls. Let us know

967
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 2: what you think about this high level of offensive efficiency

968
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 2: from Josh Allen and the ten guys around him, and

969
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Speaker 2: if you think they can sustain it, and if so,

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Speaker 2: for how long? Eight h three h five fifty eight

971
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Speaker 2: eighty five point fifty two five fifty open lines for

972
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Speaker 2: you there to jump on board. Here on One Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

974
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Kaleida Health.

975
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Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number two and we'll

976
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: be catching up with the ESPN Dan. We're lobskin just

977
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Speaker 2: a little bit, but it's more of your phone calls

978
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Speaker 2: to start as we are asking you, how confident are

979
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: you that Josh Allen and the offense's high rate of

980
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: efficiency can continue. Maybe unrealistic, but we want to know

981
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: if you think they could keep on trucking each and

982
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: every week. Back to the phones we go and leading

983
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Speaker 2: us off is Darnell in Buffalo. We got for us, Darnell, Hey,

984
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: how you doing good?

985
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 1: Good?

986
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 9: Yeah? I definitely think on the offense, keep it up

987
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 9: as doors. You just keep us in a you know,

988
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 9: in the right position and to be successful. You know

989
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 9: the scenes you know earlier in the year of Weils,

990
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 9: even the first game, you know, thirty and one, thirty

991
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 9: and two, you know, we throw throwing the ball. Now

992
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 9: Josh seems to be under center and were just camdling

993
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 9: the ball. So what we're supposed to do, so we

994
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 9: kick that up. I think it definitely can be successful.

995
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: All right, I'm with you on that. I think we

996
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 2: know that the NFL is quite literally a week to

997
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 2: week league. That's the only thing that gives me pause.

998
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 2: But I'm encouraged by what we've seen. You mentioned it

999
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 2: in the last segment. There's times where it looks easy

1000
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 2: right now, and that's a credit to Josh's decision making.

1001
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 2: It's a crush, it's a credit to the execution up front,

1002
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: and it's a credit to Ken Dorsey's play design.

1003
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: And some of it is a matchup, and the Dolphins

1004
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: defense is not elite, no, and so if you're playing

1005
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: like an elite offense and you're playing a team that's

1006
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: middle of the road or maybe average or a little

1007
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: above average, you should it should look easy at times,

1008
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: at least to a complete a pass and get the

1009
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: pass off. You're winning a lot of matchups across the front.

1010
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: And that team that you're playing with the mediocre defense,

1011
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: also lost its best player in Jalen Phillips, So there's

1012
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: that as well. That's the way you're supposed to look

1013
00:53:53,880 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: on a game like that. Offensively anyway. Now, defensively, I

1014
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: don't know if there's too many people that were counting

1015
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: the Dolphins out for a twenty point game against this

1016
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: Bill's defense. Bill's defense was nice, it was good, all that,

1017
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: and yet you know, all all this stuff, all due respect,

1018
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: nobody was thinking the Bills, we're gonna hold this team

1019
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: to twenty points. But they did, and they did it

1020
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: in fine fashion. They the Dolphins turned it over on

1021
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: downs the last three times they had the ball when

1022
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: the game was on the line and had to have

1023
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: a first down, they turned it over on downs three

1024
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: straight possessions. That's good. That's really good for this Bill's

1025
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: defense and not what you.

1026
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: Want if you're the Dolphins. Back to the phones and

1027
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: to Mark in New Jersey, what do you got for us?

1028
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 10: Mark, Good afternoon, Gentlemen's always good to talk to. I

1029
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 10: just think they're better equipped. Will they have spurts where

1030
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 10: they're a little you know, lackluster, of course they will.

1031
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 10: But if you look at what they did on the interior,

1032
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 10: and you like to point this out, Chris, what they've

1033
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 10: done at running back. They have a downhill element to

1034
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 10: their run game that they'll able. They'll be able to

1035
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 10: get into formatutive offense a lot better with leads and

1036
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 10: stay there and you're you're seeing just you know, thirteen

1037
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 10: personnel the twenty two. Obviously they're capable of putting the

1038
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 10: full back on the field, and you saw some of

1039
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 10: the tackles Latavious Murray broke. I don't think they had

1040
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 10: a back on their their roster that that's just going

1041
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 10: to run through guys the way he did on a

1042
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 10: few of those plays. I just think they're just more

1043
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 10: well equipped to handle, you know, from depth standpoint, I

1044
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 10: think they have their three back offensive backup offensive live

1045
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 10: then would all start on the Giants right now. And

1046
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 10: I'm not even being cute. You know, Edwards, Bates, and

1047
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 10: Vandermark would all start on the Giants right now.

1048
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably right about that, especially after what.

1049
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: We Even if they were yesterday, even if they weren't

1050
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: so thanks for the call, Mark, they would be today.

1051
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that, but that, But I think again it

1052
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: speaks to what we were talking about all off season.

1053
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 2: This high level of efficiency on offense is great, and

1054
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: part of it is rooted in the fact that at

1055
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: least the belief that it can continue. Part of that

1056
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: is rooted in the fact that, even if injury strikes

1057
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 2: in one or two areas, you have better talent and

1058
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 2: depth on this roster than you had last year. I mean,

1059
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: to Mark's point, David Edwards is a three year starter.

1060
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: He's your sixth offensive lineman. Ryan Bates started here the

1061
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 2: last two years at right guard. He's your backup center.

1062
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,959
Speaker 2: And then Ryan Vandermark has been a pleasant surprise, great

1063
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: player development there by coach Kromer and Vandermark himself.

1064
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: I think I came from nowhere to make a really

1065
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: good team.

1066
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 2: I mean he was on the practice squad last year,

1067
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: and he's your swing tackle right now. Yeah, so and

1068
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 2: then you picked up a fetti.

1069
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: So they like Vandermark better than they like Kessenberry from

1070
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: last year.

1071
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, they cut him, so, yeah, I think, And yes,

1072
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: the downhill running game is an important thing to mention

1073
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 2: here as well. It is an element of their offense

1074
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: they simply did not have last year in any capacity.

1075
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: So having that, here's a perfect example. Steve Bills go

1076
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: out one day and it's not clicking on all cylinders,

1077
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 2: but they've got a ten point lead and there's four

1078
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: minutes left. They say, screw it, we're running downhill. Let's

1079
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: just kill this game and get out of here. You know,

1080
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: we weren't at our best today. We got a ten

1081
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: point lead, let's kill the game.

1082
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: They did that a couple of times last year against

1083
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: New England, and yeah, choked the game.

1084
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: It's twenty four to ten, but they choked the game.

1085
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: They did the same thing to Green Bay, choked the

1086
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: life out of the game, just strangled it on the clock.

1087
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: This year, it seems like it'll be a lot easier

1088
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: to do it this and I think this year too,

1089
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: And maybe it's a philosophical shift or whatever you want

1090
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: to call. Or they drafted a tight end number one,

1091
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: they want to use them, and now they're going twelve

1092
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: person on thirteen personnel to do all this and which

1093
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: age the running game. But they're also going this under

1094
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: center stuff that we've been talking about.

1095
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 2: All of that.

1096
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: With the tight ends and the running game and putting

1097
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: Josh under center has made this offense more offensive line friendly.

1098
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: So there's you know, it's a little easier to handle.

1099
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: You know, these guys aren't spread out trying to block

1100
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: these elite athletes in space as much as they were

1101
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: a year ago or that other teams do even now.

1102
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: So that doesn't mean it's going to stay like this

1103
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: for the entire year. Teams will come up with something

1104
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: and the bills will adjust. But until they do, man

1105
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: oh man, this is it's a hard offense to get

1106
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: off the field. It's a hard offense to stay out

1107
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: and keep out of the end zone too, and it's

1108
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: a hard offense to keep a lid on. You know,

1109
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: you've got a guy back there taking snaps that you

1110
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: can't catch and can't sack. He's got an unbelievable arm,

1111
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: and you've got an elite wide receiver. You got a

1112
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: group of weapons that are, you know, top shelf, and

1113
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: you can't get there because the offensive line and they're

1114
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, so this is a you said it, they're

1115
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: a wagon. And until teams figure out some way to

1116
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: take them off of a plan that they've put in

1117
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: for that game, you know, you're just they're just gonna

1118
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: keep rolling. They're red zone offense with Latavious Murray and

1119
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: Damien Harris and Cook running the ball behind six offensive linemen.

1120
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: That's a crusher man for a defense. It's a crusher

1121
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: because everybody will tell you if you can run the

1122
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: ball in the red zone, that's it's like magic.

1123
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were twelve. I think they were just outside

1124
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: the top ten in red zone offense going into last

1125
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,959
Speaker 2: week's game. Last week they went like five of six,

1126
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: so they're up to sixth in the league now in

1127
00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: red zone touchdown efficiency. They're scoring touchdowns sixty eight point

1128
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: four percent of the time, so more than two out

1129
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 2: of every three times they're sticking it in the end zone,

1130
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 2: which is even better than last year. They finished ninth

1131
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 2: in the league last year in red zone offense. Right

1132
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 2: now they're at an even better clip than they were

1133
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 2: last season. Let's go back to the phones and to

1134
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 2: Tony in Rochester. What do you got for us, Tony?

1135
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, my observation is the schedule and the quality of

1136
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 5: the opponents that we're going to be playing. I really

1137
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 5: think that's going to keep them on their toes because

1138
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 5: we know last year on the second half after the

1139
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 5: Green Bay game and they didn't really play anybody, you

1140
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 5: know that was a worthy opponent. So to speak.

1141
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: Up, do we lose Tony now?

1142
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 5: I mean by jack Themville every revenge a game because

1143
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 5: Josh played so poorly the last time. Then the Giants

1144
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 5: the day ball effect that we can go down the

1145
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 5: list and they played Cincinnati. That's revenge game than Denver

1146
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 5: on Monday Night. I think Jets the revenge game than Philly,

1147
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 5: Casey Dallas. I mean, they can't let their game down.

1148
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 5: I mean I think Canvin. This kind of schedule is

1149
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 5: going to keep them at peak performance.

1150
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a valid point, Tony. I kind

1151
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 2: of like that a little bit.

1152
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not They're not going to feel like they're

1153
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 1: getting a break at any point.

1154
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 5: Now.

1155
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: Certainly things will change down the line. All of a sudden,

1156
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: you get down in the Patriots on in week seven

1157
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: or two and five that you know or you know

1158
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: this there the Bengals, Joe Burrow pops his calf again

1159
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: and the and the Bengals turn out to be two

1160
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: and seven by the time they play him, you know,

1161
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: so you never know how that's going to turn out.

1162
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: I I'm just saying, I'm saying, what if some of

1163
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: these teams are not going to continue to play at

1164
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: a high level that we've seen him in the past.

1165
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure the Jets are going to be

1166
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: a problem because of their defense, just like they were

1167
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: the first time the Bills played him. You got Philly,

1168
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Dallas, the Chargers, and then the Patriots again. Yeah,

1169
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: there's a stretch coming up that's going to be really,

1170
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:03,959
Speaker 1: really tough, really tough.

1171
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 2: Let's check back in on the tweet sheet where Matthew

1172
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: says they looked unstoppable Sunday. However, they played a bottom

1173
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 2: tier defense. I don't think any team can sustain that

1174
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: level of efficiency. As long as Josh keeps playing smart ball,

1175
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 2: the offense will be in the top five in the NFL.

1176
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 2: Taco Board says it's a week to week thing. No

1177
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 2: one can maintain that level. Look at Miami, So no,

1178
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 2: I'm not very confident they'll maintain this pace. I'm just

1179
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: gonna say this. Josh went back to back weeks of

1180
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 2: over eighty percent completion and at least three passing touchdowns.

1181
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 2: Didn't back to back weeks, So he did sustain it.

1182
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: I think their biggest problem, well final, from our end

1183
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: of it, not in the locker room, but from all

1184
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: of us out here in the civiliandies civilian world. Our

1185
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: expectations skyrocket when we see games like that last week,

1186
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: just like Miami fans expectations skyrocketed two weeks ago. You

1187
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: just get this this thought in your head, like they

1188
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: they can't stop us, and if they do, Ken Dorsey

1189
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: stinks or John you know, or they they they should

1190
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: have They should have bolsted the offensive line even more.

1191
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: They should have ba they go to you go down

1192
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: the list, pick your spot.

1193
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what you have said accurately is more often

1194
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 2: than not, if they have a stinker, it's because they're

1195
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 2: helping the opponent beat them.

1196
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1197
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they turn it over. That's what does it to

1198
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: them themselves? They turn it over or they get you know,

1199
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: I'll go back two or three years to the Tampa

1200
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: Bay game when they you know, they were grabbing a

1201
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: holding Steph Diggs on the touchdown pass and we didn't

1202
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: get the call in a game they should have won.

1203
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 2: And that wasn't the only play that that happened.

1204
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: So you know, there's always something. But that's that's how

1205
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: good this team has been over the last handful of years.

1206
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: If something bad doesn't happen to them, or they don't

1207
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: do it to themselves, you don't beat them. You just don't.

1208
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: They make too many plays.

1209
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.

1210
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: STEP's too consistent, Josh is too good. You know, you

1211
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: just they just don't go away. The defense is too

1212
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: dependable and has proven to be.

1213
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 2: Eight oh three oh five point fifty one eight eight

1214
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty the number to get

1215
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: on board. As we got people calling in now, so

1216
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 2: we'll get to them in just a second. Joseph on

1217
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 2: the tweet sheet says the offensive line is key with

1218
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 2: how that group is playing. I'm very confident. Yeah, I mean,

1219
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 2: we haven't had to say much about those guys because

1220
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 2: usually when people do, it's never for the right reasons.

1221
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 2: So the fact that you're not saying much about the

1222
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 2: front five, I think is a good thing. It means

1223
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 2: they're getting the job done up there. Granted they've done

1224
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 2: a good job of chipping with backs and ti ends

1225
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 2: and helping where needed. But on the hole, and I'm

1226
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 2: not even talking about just pass protection. Think about some

1227
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 2: of the holes they've opened up the last couple of weeks.

1228
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 2: It's been downright impressive. Like the hole they opened up

1229
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 2: for Latavius Murray where it just left him one on

1230
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 2: one with the safety and then he hurdled the safety.

1231
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: I mean that's a twenty nine yard run.

1232
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's this explosive play they've got. The Bills have

1233
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: got like eleven twenty five yard plays on the season

1234
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: right now. They're averaging multiple big plays a game. So

1235
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: and some like the Digs. The Digs deal was a

1236
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: broken tackle fifty five yard or touchdown, and they've had

1237
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: a couple of those. So, and the Latavious Murray run

1238
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: was it's a thing of beauty and that Murray and

1239
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: Damien Harris have really added something, even though they don't

1240
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: get that many snaps. But man, when you go in

1241
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: there first and foremost, they ain't gonna turn it over.

1242
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: They're like never they don't turn it over ever, and

1243
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: they run hard. They get every yard that's coming to them.

1244
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 2: They're effective.

1245
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even when they run into the you know

1246
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: they were handing it off inside the guards. Those guys

1247
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: push the pile, they get some help, they get positive yards.

1248
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: This team has rarely been behind the sticks or not

1249
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: very much, and putting those two guys in you just

1250
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: feel really like you're really putting a solid player in there.

1251
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's just not where we were a year

1252
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: ago when Devin Singletary was the lead back and James

1253
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: Cook was backing him up.

1254
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 2: You're right, there's different You got different levers you can

1255
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 2: pull at the running back position this year that you

1256
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: couldn't pull last year. And it just makes the offense

1257
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 2: more unpredictable and more diversified. To the phones, we go

1258
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 2: into josh in Binghamton, what do you got for us, Joshua.

1259
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 11: Christmas see, let's go.

1260
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go.

1261
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 5: Man.

1262
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 11: So I want to cause say thank you had Thursday

1263
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 11: for the hotline.

1264
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.

1265
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 11: My story was that we had a wedding. It was

1266
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 11: a Binghamton out Buffalo. So that makes more sense whether

1267
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 11: the wedding and bingham too and now Buffalo, but I

1268
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 11: had my ear piece in. I brought my ear piece

1269
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 11: off and brought the mom the wire. The good news

1270
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 11: is is our has chef caught him sick, so I

1271
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 11: volunteered to be the chef. Put my phone up, have

1272
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 11: my ear piece in. It can be as low as

1273
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 11: I want to watch the game. Really enjoyed it, so

1274
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 11: it worked out well.

1275
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 2: Nice. So it's pretty much it's pretty much.

1276
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 11: Yeah, go ahead, Oh oh, go ahead, go ahead.

1277
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: Christ I was just gonna say, I can picture in

1278
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 2: the kitchen right now. You know, it's watching the game.

1279
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 2: He's got his ear piece in and he's like water

1280
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 2: Seven's up, go bills Like it's like it's like a

1281
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 2: running commentary. I could just picture it.

1282
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 11: It was great because our wedding corner is a Miami's fan,

1283
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 11: so she'll come back now on that and be like

1284
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 11: oh geez, oh geez, now be there cheer and laughing.

1285
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 11: I loved it as loud as I could be. So

1286
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 11: it was great and quick. Note like at albur mean

1287
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 11: he bought out this game. Uh, it was a great

1288
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 11: play on him. But also there's an awful play with

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Speaker 11: with Trey White. But the last fourth down they had

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Speaker 11: the whole stadium. Everyone watching on TV probably assumed they're

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01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 11: going to run it, and he when the ball is snap,

1292
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 11: you can see him just kind of holding thinking of

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01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 11: a run. And then I realized it wasn't and this

1294
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 11: kind of bull rushing right to toul got the sack

1295
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 11: and that was just a great play.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 11: That's all I had to say is just come out

1298
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 11: on that play by ad hit a few others in

1299
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 11: that game. But I'll hang up and say thank you

1300
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 11: for Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, again this one. It's kind of nice when

1302
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 2: people that we help on the Relationship Hotline let us

1303
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 2: know how things turned out. That was I'm glad it.

1304
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: Worked for him. It did work for him, and then

1305
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: actually got to he caught a break and got a

1306
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: chance to do it without having a unseen good for him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: We've talked about a lot about Ed Oliver. Even when

1309
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: he signed his deal. You we'll say it again, he

1310
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: had this idea that man, he's a big guy. He

1311
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: signed the deal, maybe it'll take it out of gear,

1312
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: you know, And now he's got his and it was

1313
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: just the opposite with Ed. He you could feel him

1314
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: just get Yeah, it's like a little kid like he

1315
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: got this praisy. Now he's gonna really just like, wow,

1316
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: this is great. Let's get in a new bike for Christmas.

1317
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: And he's riding that bike hard. It's awesome. It's good

1318
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: to see and kudos to the team for seeing it

1319
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: in him and uh and and giving it to him.

1320
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: But he's played extremely well and I and he said too,

1321
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:27,600
Speaker 1: and we all watched him. He was a little bit

1322
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,560
Speaker 1: up and down in the last couple of years, but

1323
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: he said listen when I'm and he said it healthy.

1324
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: Ed is a better Ed. He just you just never

1325
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: a hundred He wasn't one hundred percent.

1326
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh one. More from the tweets sheet, Brian says,

1327
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent confident. They've been doing this for

1328
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 2: three years. The bad games are outliers, and for the

1329
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 2: most part they are. I think you're right, Brian. You

1330
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 2: know they've they've been aberrations in terms of performance more

1331
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: than anything else. You still don't like to see him.

1332
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 2: Fans are going to grouse for a week and then

1333
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: you know the team course corrects because coach mc dermot's

1334
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 2: very good at course correcting his team week one to

1335
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 2: week two being a perfect example. So yeah, they're outliers.

1336
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 2: You just hope they don't crop up very often.

1337
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get this out and me just see.

1338
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 2: Here comes the shirt with the singing on it.

1339
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: You need to play well on that day. You gotta

1340
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: play well on that day. Yeah. All these all these

1341
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 1: these wins, these forty eight point shellackings they put on

1342
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: these teams, all well and good, but your season is

1343
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: not gonna end in week.

1344
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 2: Four, Yeah, thirteen to go.

1345
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: Let's say you dropped that. It's you. It might end

1346
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 1: in week nineteen, twenty, twenty one, twenty two. You got

1347
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: to play well on those days. And you know the

1348
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 1: Bills have always you know they're winning. They win a

1349
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: playoff game every year. It seems like at least got

1350
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: you gotta win a handful of those.

1351
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 2: You do a one year to Tom in Rochester. Next,

1352
01:10:59,360 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 2: what do you got for first?

1353
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 12: Well, I'm just curious what your thoughts are on Dalton Kincaid.

1354
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 12: I mean, he looks like he has taken well to

1355
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 12: the league, but the Bills are not using him in

1356
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 12: the slot in my view, as much as I thought

1357
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 12: they would. And he's his yards per catcher, very low,

1358
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 12: bloody catches everything. But do you think they will progress

1359
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 12: with him to using him more in the slot as

1360
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 12: a receiver, similar to you know, what they had with

1361
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 12: others in the past.

1362
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fair question, Tom. I get why you're

1363
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 2: saying that because you haven't seen those big shots down

1364
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 2: the seam. You know some of the kinds of plays

1365
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 2: that are drawn up in terms of big play potential

1366
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,719
Speaker 2: for tight ends. I think he's coming along. I feel

1367
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 2: like he's coming along. He's I think he's the second

1368
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 2: most targeted guy on the team. That's number one and

1369
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 2: number two. I think you're seeing a maturation week to week.

1370
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 2: It's not eye popping, game breaking type plays, but some

1371
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 2: of the plays he has been able to deliver, I

1372
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 2: think are keeping them on schedule in terms of down

1373
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 2: and distance. And I think he's shown a little bit

1374
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 2: more physicality than I thought we would see from him

1375
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 2: after the catch.

1376
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: There's two things so real quick before we go to

1377
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: the break. One, if they get into a place where

1378
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: he's a matchup nightmare for the other team or they

1379
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: need him, or where he gets out there and they

1380
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 1: got the wrong guy on him, you're gonna see him

1381
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: when a team is vulnerable to a second tight end

1382
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: like Dalton Kinkaid would be or even a first tight end.

1383
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: That's when they'll need him. And two, they don't need him.

1384
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: They scored thirty eight thirty seven forty eight in the

1385
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: last three weeks. They're gonna keep him on the shelf

1386
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: until they need him. They're gonna show him when they don't.

1387
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: If they're hanging twenty a four touchdown lead on somebody,

1388
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna unfurl a new weapon. Leave him on

1389
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: the shelf.

1390
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 2: Keep those plays in the best and when they.

1391
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: Come when it comes to a point where now, what

1392
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: are we gonna do and say, well, we got this

1393
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: Kincaid guy, let's throw him the ball that you know,

1394
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: that's where it's gonna be. So when you get a

1395
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 1: team that's vulnerable to a matchup like that, that's a

1396
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: That's maybe one thing. But the second thing is they

1397
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 1: ain't gonna take him out of the box until they

1398
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 1: need him to do it. And they're keeping him ready.

1399
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: They're giving him some targets. But that's what you're looking at.

1400
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: I mean that there is no need to target him

1401
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: twenty times in a game until you need him to

1402
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 1: win the game for you.

1403
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 2: Now, break time for us here, because when we come back.

1404
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,799
Speaker 2: It's time for our weekly visit with ESPN NFL analyst

1405
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: Dan Orlovsky. We will break down Bill's Dolphins with him

1406
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 2: what he saw from that, more under center, more play action.

1407
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 2: We know he's gonna like that, and we'll have him

1408
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 2: preview Bill's jags coming up next year on One Bill's Live.

1409
01:13:52,800 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 2: Stay tuned. All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live.

1410
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and as we do

1411
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 2: on every Tuesday here during the season, we welcome in

1412
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 2: ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlovsky and Dan segment brought to

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01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,920
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Speaker 2: five hundred Pearl. Reserve your pack, book your group event

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Speaker 2: today at five hundred Pearl, Buffalo dot Com. Dan, how

1417
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 2: we doing. We know you've been a champion of the

1418
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: play action pass. The Bills are doing it with great

1419
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 2: degree of success. I'm gonna bust off some numbers on you.

1420
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 2: This is off play action this season. Josh Allen twenty

1421
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,759
Speaker 2: seven to thirty three, four hundred and fifty one yards,

1422
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 2: five tuddies, no picks, and a perfect passer rating. Of

1423
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 2: one fifty eight point three. I guess that's hard to

1424
01:14:58,160 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 2: argue with.

1425
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 13: To jump on top of that, QBR of ninety eight

1426
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 13: now perfect QB is one hundred. This is the one

1427
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 13: that blows my mind the most. Guess how many yards

1428
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 13: per attempt he's averaging in play action attempt not completion.

1429
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a fat number. I think it's like fourteen

1430
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: or something.

1431
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 13: Isn't it seventeen seventeen yards per attempt? So it's so

1432
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 13: here's here's the reason why I absolutely love I thought

1433
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 13: this past weekend was the best game that Josh Allen

1434
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 13: and Ken Dorsey have had together. Okay, I'm very critical

1435
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 13: of coaches, very so every so often, because I always

1436
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 13: try to take the player's perspective. I also think that

1437
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 13: there's opportunities, deservedly and rightfully so to praise when guys

1438
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 13: are really good. Ken Dorsey, what he has leaned into

1439
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 13: this year has to be praised. It has to be

1440
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 13: because this is the reason why the play play action

1441
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 13: matters so much for Buffalo. It allows their two best

1442
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 13: players to play at their strength, their highest level of strength.

1443
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 13: What I mean by that is this, when they play action,

1444
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,759
Speaker 13: it just takes a little bit longer time wise. STEP's

1445
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 13: superpower as a wide receivers is route running, but you

1446
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 13: want to give him the time to get down the

1447
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 13: field in that route running well. Therefore the play action

1448
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 13: matters because you have more time and play action. So

1449
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 13: it allows his strength to be always at the forefront

1450
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 13: with Josh Allen. What's Josh's strength? The arm the ability

1451
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 13: to drive the football down the field, to make really

1452
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 13: challenging throws downfield. So what do you need to do

1453
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 13: that on a consistent basis time. So it's allowing the

1454
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 13: route running skills of Steph to be a bigger part

1455
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 13: of the conversation, and then the arm strength for Josh

1456
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,560
Speaker 13: to be at the bigger part of the conversation. And

1457
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 13: then it takes the weakest part of their offense, which

1458
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 13: is the past protection of their offensive line, and it

1459
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 13: never really exposes them because when you're in play action,

1460
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 13: one often doing it with you know, some type of

1461
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 13: tight end or two tight ends attached to those tackles

1462
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 13: right on the hips that it tackles. So now those

1463
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 13: guys have some help. There's at least a body near them.

1464
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 13: Sometimes those guys chip, sometimes they're out, but there's a

1465
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 13: body near them. Second of all, when you're under center

1466
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 13: doing it, specifically, those defensive linemen have to play with

1467
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 13: hesitancy in doubt. It's not I know the ball, shotgun

1468
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 13: quarterback is going to be there and it's more than

1469
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 13: likely to throw. It's is it a handoff, is it

1470
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,560
Speaker 13: a not after the fake? Is the quarterback going to

1471
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 13: be behind the center, or is it a little bit

1472
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 13: of a half roll to the guard and the tackle

1473
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 13: like the quarterbacks are moving target. Then for defensive linemen,

1474
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 13: it makes them play a little bit slower and hesitant,

1475
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 13: and then the more like to top to put on

1476
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 13: top of that, when they're from under center and they're

1477
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 13: they're running the football, they're the second best run team

1478
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 13: in the NFL. So just for Bills fans to conceptualize this,

1479
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 13: Josh Allen from under center as the second best run

1480
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 13: game football, good night, good night.

1481
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. And so we've been we've been

1482
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 1: asking our listeners. They played at such a high level

1483
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: this last week and against Miami, and they've scored thirty seven,

1484
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: thirty eight, forty eight in three consecutive weeks. But it's

1485
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: week four, and so if you take the health out

1486
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: of it, certainly if somebody gets injured or whatever, you

1487
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 1: can take that up. But other than that, if everybody

1488
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 1: stays healthy, how do they keep this sharp for three

1489
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 1: months until the playoffs start? You know what I'm saying,

1490
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's a grind, man, and there's and teams,

1491
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: and they don't play in a vacuum. Great defensive coordinators,

1492
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: great players are gonna face you know, how do you

1493
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: you've been in the league, you've played It's really difficult

1494
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: to stay razor sharp week after week after week after week,

1495
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: even when you're playing well in winning and maybe because

1496
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 1: you're playing well and you're winning, it's hard to stay sharp.

1497
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the grind that the season

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Speaker 1: is gonna turn into and how they can play like

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Speaker 1: this going forward.

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Speaker 13: That's Steve, I think number one, And you know this

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Speaker 13: understanding that it's probably not going to be the case

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Speaker 13: every single week. That's just the reality. It more than

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Speaker 13: likely won't and you're going to have a week or

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Speaker 13: two that you you don't kind of execute and excel

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Speaker 13: it that way. I think that the most important part

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Speaker 13: of that is the discipline between Ken Dorsey and Josh

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Speaker 13: at the same time, health obviously, but the discipline for

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Speaker 13: Ken to call it, the discipline for Ken to call

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Speaker 13: a little bit of the run from under there, the

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Speaker 13: discipline for Josh. You know, so often when you're calling

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Speaker 13: these play action plays. Okay, I'll live in that for

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Speaker 13: just a fragment of a second. When you're calling these

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Speaker 13: plays so often you're calling it with the thought of

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Speaker 13: getting a shot or a chunk. And one of the

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Speaker 13: things that happens with quarterbacks sometimes and probably more when

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Speaker 13: you're younger. But you know, Josh isn't young anymore, is you.

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Speaker 13: You know why the guy's calling the play and you're like,

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Speaker 13: here we go, here's my shot, here's my chance. Like,

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Speaker 13: let let's go, let's go make a throw, let's get

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Speaker 13: a chunk, and and there's gonna be games that defense

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Speaker 13: just just doing an incredible job of staying on top

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Speaker 13: of everything, and the second level of the defense just

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Speaker 13: they have such a great job of turning and running

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Speaker 13: underneath stuff. The discipline of taking some of the I

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Speaker 13: think he threw a check down at one point over

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Speaker 13: the middle of field to James Cook for eight or

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Speaker 13: nine yards on it. So just the consistency in the

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Speaker 13: discipline of doing it. I think the second thing is

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Speaker 13: in that play action world. When they get into their

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Speaker 13: twelve personnel one back, two tight ends, and the receivers

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Speaker 13: are on the you know, more than likely teams are

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Speaker 13: going to try to start favoring Steph in that world.

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Speaker 13: So can Gabe hurt defenses in that play action world

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Speaker 13: the way that Steph is. And I think like knowing

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Speaker 13: sometimes like teams are going to start to pressure your

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Speaker 13: play action protection like here, here's what happens. You know

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Speaker 13: when it comes to that offensive line wise, the because

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Speaker 13: you got to move laterally more often than not with

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Speaker 13: some of these play actions, you can't win. You can't

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Speaker 13: lose early, and you can't lose inside. Teams are going

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Speaker 13: to start to stunt defensive lineman. What I mean by

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Speaker 13: that is like slant them inside in those looks to

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Speaker 13: try and force Josh to move, so that'll be important

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Speaker 13: for their offensive line. But I think just the discipline

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Speaker 13: of trying to take it week by week, calling the

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Speaker 13: runs when they have to Josh making the right decision

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Speaker 13: even if it's four or five times in a row

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Speaker 13: in those play action concepts, because it's not there doing that.

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Speaker 13: I also loved, you know, not only just the play action,

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Speaker 13: like I love the fact that they were ready for

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Speaker 13: vic Fanjoe's strength, his fire zone pressures. They had a

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Speaker 13: very clear plan to how to attack the fire zone,

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Speaker 13: what Josh was going to throw into it versus a

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Speaker 13: certain guy or away from it versus certain guys. I

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Speaker 13: thought when they got an empty did you got to

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Speaker 13: see when they got an empty they would get into

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Speaker 13: the four guys on one side, one guy on the

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Speaker 13: other side, and they would motion away from the four

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Speaker 13: person side and it would be like, if they don't

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Speaker 13: match the we're gonna throw the ball to like I

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Speaker 13: think it was Dalton a lot, you know, kind of

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Speaker 13: on a quick out route and listen, if they flow

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Speaker 13: that way, then we'll have someone come underneath and whatnot.

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Speaker 13: So I like their empty package as well, I really did.

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Speaker 8: So.

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Speaker 13: I think the diversity of their personnel and the formation

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Speaker 13: willingness is something that gives me a little bit more

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Speaker 13: confident there there could be a consistent performance here.

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Speaker 2: In the last couple of weeks, Dan, we've also seen

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Speaker 2: Dorsey have Deontay Hardy in the backfield, digs in the

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Speaker 2: backfield last week, surefield in the backfield last week, and

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Speaker 2: we've seen some late motion like right before the snap,

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Speaker 2: there's no motion all of a sudden, there's late motion

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Speaker 2: right before the snap. What is what is the iteration

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Speaker 2: and what are they trying to accomplish with that? Just

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Speaker 2: if you can kind of explain the x's and o's

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Speaker 2: in that in that realm and where does it go

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Speaker 2: from there? Is there a maturation from that into something else?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: So number one with the different people in the backfield.

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Speaker 13: So if if you're not going to have that person,

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Speaker 13: if we just called that person X, if he's not

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Speaker 13: going to have any type of protection responsibilities, then you

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Speaker 13: would prefer to have someone that is a pass catching

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Speaker 13: threat in the backfield there that maybe is a little

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Speaker 13: bit more accustomed to knowing what hot means and having

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Speaker 13: the ball get on them quickly versus a pressure. They're

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Speaker 13: a guy to get the ball to in space and

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Speaker 13: a little bit of a different capacity. So if you're

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Speaker 13: not worried about the pressure in that game and having

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Speaker 13: someone to have to be responsible to pick up a blitzer,

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Speaker 13: and why not put one of those guys back there.

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Speaker 13: The second element of it is you're trying to create

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Speaker 13: matchups or hide, you know, guys from matchups. That's why

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Speaker 13: you would put a step back there, because if you are,

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Speaker 13: I don't even know who the Bills play next week

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Speaker 13: because I'm still off of this weekend.

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Speaker 1: But if the Jags in London, if you're the Jags.

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Speaker 13: And you're sitting there, go you know what we're gonna play.

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Speaker 13: We're gonna put Tyson Campbell. Should have known that in London.

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Speaker 13: We're gonna put Tyson Campbell on early downs with Steph

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Speaker 13: as much as possible. Well, if you put Steph in

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Speaker 13: the backfield, he doesn't know where he's gonna go. Is

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Speaker 13: he gonnat motion to the right, He's going to motion

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Speaker 13: to the left, And then more often than not, you're

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Speaker 13: not gonna have him at the line of scrimmage because

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Speaker 13: that's where Tyson Campbell's very good at the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 13: very good. So you know, that's part of the reason

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Speaker 13: why you do that with the player like Steph. And

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Speaker 13: then the motion thing is this the late motion thing

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Speaker 13: is you are so there's two forms of motion information

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Speaker 13: or impact. You know, years ago the motion that would

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Speaker 13: kind of go across the line of scrimmage slowly, does

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Speaker 13: a guy follow him or not? If a defender runs

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Speaker 13: with him, more than likely man, Okay, I have the

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Speaker 13: information there. So we've seen in the past couple of

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Speaker 13: years when we guys are going in motion and the

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Speaker 13: ball gets snapped, and that's for impact, impacting the eyes

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Speaker 13: of the defenders. You know, if I have a if

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Speaker 13: I have a set where there's two people on the

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Speaker 13: right of the ball and two people on the left

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Speaker 13: of the ball, well the defense lines up basically in

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Speaker 13: symmetry as well. Well, I emotion comes late and I

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Speaker 13: snap it when that guy's going in motion. Well, now

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Speaker 13: this two person side became three. And defense always has rules,

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Speaker 13: And the main reason you're trying to do that is

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Speaker 13: change the rules of the defense on the fly, change

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Speaker 13: the rules of not only the defense structure, but the

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Speaker 13: defense individually what their rules are and what their responsibilities

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Speaker 13: are now.

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Speaker 1: And because I.

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Speaker 13: Don't need all eleven cats on defense to be wrong,

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Speaker 13: I need one, you know.

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Speaker 1: And that's really the.

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Speaker 13: Premise on that stuff, is forcing the responsibilities of those

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Speaker 13: guys to constantly change last second and making sure all

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Speaker 13: of eleven of them are challenging them to do it right.

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Speaker 1: Dan's great seeing you, Thanks for coming on. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next week and appreciate your time. As always.

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Speaker 13: Thanks guys, you're the best, all right.

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Speaker 2: That's Daniel Olafski's joining us here. ESPNNFL analyst Dice in

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01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 2: it up. Yeah, I had to ask him about that

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Speaker 2: late motion and stuff. It's just ye, I feel like

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Speaker 2: I'm in class sitting here with him.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. It takes you couple of minutes

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Speaker 1: to cipher through it and walk through how it works

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01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: and all of that stuff and all this, and these

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Speaker 1: guys do it out of just knowledge. They just do

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Speaker 1: it automatically.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, guy was in the leak for twelve years, right,

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Speaker 2: your quarterback meeting rooms for twelve years.

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Speaker 1: That's right. It takes a long time to explain, but

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Speaker 1: when you get out there and start walking through it,

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Speaker 1: you understand what the concepts are and they do it immediately.

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Speaker 1: You know it's immediately so they can. But it still works,

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Speaker 1: you know, because what you see has got to be

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Speaker 1: the exact same thing as what he sees. And if

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01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: two of you see different things, which is it happens

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01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 1: all the time one of he's doing something wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was interesting what he was saying, and I

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01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 2: know we got to get the break here, but he

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Speaker 2: was just talking about putting digs in the backfield. And

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Speaker 2: now if you have a good man press corner, it's

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Speaker 2: not gonna be able to press him right because if

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Speaker 2: he motions out late right before the snap, now he's

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Speaker 2: on the run number one and then number two, you

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01:26:57,720 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 2: can't get your hands on him at the line of

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Speaker 2: scrimmage like you used to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, basically what you do is you make a nice

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01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: outside number one corner into a slot corner. He has

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Speaker 1: to catch you on the fly. And that's a different

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01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 1: that's a different skill set. And maybe now you got

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01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 1: a guy playing left handed.

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Speaker 12: I like it.

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01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 2: I like to see more of it. We gotta take

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01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 2: a break here, Steve and outa close things up with

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Speaker 2: a couple more of your phone calls if we have time,

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Speaker 2: and maybe some final thoughts on the tweet sheet. Next

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Speaker 2: In the Buffalo Region Section six, it's lackawan as Marcus Rivers.

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Speaker 2: In his first year as a head coach. He has

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Speaker 2: led the Steelers to a five and oh record. Lackawana

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Speaker 2: Let's squeeze you in, Dave.

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Speaker 5: What do you got?

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Speaker 2: You got thirty seconds?

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Speaker 6: All right, Hey, Chris and Steve, thanks so much. I

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Speaker 6: just wanted to get your input on replacing Trey White,

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01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 6: who a horrible thing to happen to him. But should

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01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 6: we be looking at some free agents like William Jackson,

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Speaker 6: Jason Rhett or should we promote from within with our

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Speaker 6: guys carry Elam, Dane Jackson and Benford. Okay, I just

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Speaker 6: wanted to get your take.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure thing, Dave. This is a team that historically

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01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 2: promotes from within, especially when the situation isn't dire. Sean

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Speaker 2: McDermott was asked this question yesterday. He said, We're always looking,

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01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 2: but I think for now they promote from within. You

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01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 2: have good depth. You mentioned Kyrie Elam. Yeah, that's the

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01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 2: way I see them going. At least in the.

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Speaker 1: Interim JaMarcus Ingram is still on the practice squad. That's

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Speaker 1: the only other guy in house other than the guys

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Speaker 1: on the roster. Kyrie Elam's gonna get elevated, there's no

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01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 1: question about it. He may not be the first guy in.

1712
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:15,719
Speaker 1: Dan Jackson will probably be, but I there's no question

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01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: they may sign another guy just to have Debt put

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01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: him on the practice squad. Kyron Brown, that's correct, Kyron

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01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 1: Brown is also there. So there's guys in house, and

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01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 1: it's you gotta get up to speed with the terminology,

1717
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 1: so it'll take time even if they sign a guy

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Speaker 1: off the street.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well that'll do it for us on this

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Speaker 2: Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live, Steve and I'll see

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Speaker 2: you tomorrow at one Be sure to tune in. We'll

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Speaker 2: see that