WEBVTT - How Pepper Spray Works 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.920 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:07.560 It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:16.400 from house Stop works dot com? Hey, and welcome to 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:20.360 the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuff Bryant. 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:24.360 Don't spray me Brom. Yeah, I forgot about that guy. 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.680 Don't taste me Bro, Florida and now man leave it 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.400 to a gator. Who was it that was speaking at it? 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:36.440 I don't remember. Was it Al Gore? Mmmm? I don't remember. 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:40.440 And it was a politician? Was Al Gore? Kids got 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.360 rowdy and they taste and don't taste me bro. Yeah, 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:44.839 that was fun. That was a fun meme for a 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:48.440 little while. So, speaking of memes, Chuck crazy that you 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:52.440 brought that up. Yes, have you seen the casual pepper 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:56.840 spray cop meme? Yeah? I have seen it. I think 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:00.960 that what this this University of californ Wi Davis cop 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:06.920 who famously sprayed these very docile, peaceful students. It was 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:12.240 awful to watch. But this meme is hysterical, Yeah, I think. Yeah. Well, 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.280 they keep taking him and inserting him into like famous pictures, 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:19.120 photographs and paintings and things like that my favorite one 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.959 I've seen so far. As he's spraying Julie Andrews in 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.680 the field from the sound of music. Yea, that there's 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.520 a whole tumbler um. I think it's just pepper spray 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.000 cop is what it's called. It's already by the time 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:33.160 this comes out, that will already be old. I think 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.560 I think it's pretty much there now. I had a 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:38.959 pretty short run, but it's a pretty pretty good example 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.320 of how you know, if you do something in the 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:44.880 age of the Internet that the general populist doesn't like, 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:47.720 they're gonna get you for it. And they got this guy, 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:52.560 Lieutenant John Pike of the Davis Police Department, right yeah, 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:55.680 and apparently Anonymous published his like home address. His cell 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.800 phone number is emails email I address all this stuff. 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.000 That's not cool. I thought that the home addresses maybe 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:06.280 a bit too far um. But anyway, this this guy, 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:10.880 this pepper spray cop um, the just everything about it 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:15.040 has been extremely controversial. And actually the guy who helped 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:20.480 weaponize pepper spray for the FBI, uh Cameron Logman. He 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:24.440 basically said, quote, I have never seen such an inappropriate 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:28.040 and improper use of chemical agents. Basically, the a c. 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.200 L U is saying, like, you can't do this, dude, 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.800 Like you can't just pepper spray people who are sitting 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.160 quietly and peacefully, non threatening lee. It's supposed to be 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.440 as a you know, for cops, it's supposed to be 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.320 if someone is threatening me physically or resisting arrest in 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:44.280 some way physically, right, And in that sense, pepper spray 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.160 is extremely effective. One of the reasons why is it 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:51.640 doesn't trigger your it doesn't depend on a sensation of pain. 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:59.160 It circumvents your pain center and just elicits a completely physical, 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:05.400 non cerebral response. So whether you're on PCP or totally 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:09.920 drunk or psychotic, or whatever the case may be, and 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.040 there's you're in some sort of state where you can't 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.960 experience pain, this stuff is still going to incapacitate you. 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.400 If you can't experience pain, it's going to incapacitate you, 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:23.000 and it's going to be extremely painful. I think what 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:26.520 was so startling about Pike was that how casual it 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.480 was in the video. It looked like he was spraying, uh, 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:33.720 you know, we'd be gone on his yard. That's what 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.440 got everybody. Yeah, that and the fact that everybody was 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.680 just sitting docile and quietly. You know, it was horrifying. 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.200 Did you see what Megan Kelly said on Fox News. Yes, 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:46.240 she dismissed pepper spray after this incident as quote a 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:50.320 food product. Essentially, She's right in some ways. I mean, 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:53.720 it's definitely derived from food. You can say that pepper 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:57.560 spray is a natural. It's made from naturally. I think 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:59.240 to see her get sprayed in the face, so and 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.720 see if she's still at that it's a food product. 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:05.400 I would I would take um McDonald's cheeseburger spray to 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.720 the face any day of the week. Pepper sprayed not 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.320 so much. You want to talk about this, this is 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:16.240 one of our rare topical timely timely topical ones. Well, yeah, 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.280 because it's being used all over the place. So, I mean, 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:22.400 you see, Davis got such a a lot of coverage 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.479 because it was so casual in heinous. But they're using 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.000 pepper spray all over the place with this Occupy Wall 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.400 Street movement, all over the place. And the problem is 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.640 is you're not supposed to be doing that, even though 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:36.599 it is considered a non lethal weapon, even though it 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.440 supposedly wears off after four to six hours. You're not 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:49.800 supposed to spray peaceful demonstrators who are exercising their Second 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:57.000 Amendment First Amendment right to assemble. It's all of them. 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.920 So all right, let's talk about pepper spray. Um we 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:04.479 uh we know the active ingredient pepper spray because it's 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:08.279 also one of the active ingredients and peppers, chili, peppers, 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:12.280 and cayenne. It's uh oleo resin capsicum, or O C 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.200 as they like to call it. You know, I read 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.320 I wrote the article on bear spray on the site. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.960 The same stuff, same stuff. Basically, it just shoots farther 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.839 for obvious reasons, because you want to stop a bear 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:27.120 thirty feet away and not five feet away. Um. But 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.200 the O C is a natural oil found in a 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:33.320 lot of peppers, a lot of different types of peppers, 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:37.600 and O C has a compound called cap sasan, and 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:42.080 that is what is responsible for that burning sensation. Even 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:46.239 though it's colorless, odorless, flavorless, that's the burn you're gonna 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:50.640 feel when that seed, actually the pepper itself, but especially 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:54.320 the seed hits your tongue, isn't it. Yeah? Um? And 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:59.240 cap sason itself is colorless and odorless and flavorless, but 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:03.960 it's extreme only potent, very So one milligram of pure 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:08.840 cap sasin can cause blistering on your skin. That's substantial. 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:12.159 That's pretty serious stuff. So it's a natural compound. It's 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.840 also a blistering agent. You know. I think people are 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.159 like people like Megan Kelly who say, well, it's just 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:23.600 a food product, natural. Um, it can still cause blisters 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:26.839 on your skin. So with pepper spray, basically pepper spray 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:31.800 is is cap sasin mixed with say water oil. Well 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:36.000 is oil already okay, but it can also be mixed 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.960 with an oil based or water based solution. UM. Then 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.919 you put it in a canister with a propellant that 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:46.840 helps shoot it, and you um uh air soolize the 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.920 whole thing. You pressurize it is that is that a word? 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.760 It is? Now? I like it. You pressurize it. So 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.480 then when you press a button and everything's deep pressurized, 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:58.400 it goes shooting out and stick to the face of 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:02.919 some protester or a man on PCP or in the 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:04.960 case of the article I sent you from the New 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.039 York Times, it had a lovely picture of an eighty 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.800 four year old woman that occupy Wall Street that was 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.640 pepper sprayed in the face and it looked pretty awful. 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.280 I can't remember her name, but she's like a lifelong 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:19.240 protester and a lifelong activists and um, yeah she got 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.880 sprayed in Seattle, right. I bet she's had it more 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:25.360 than once. Then she's like, take more than pepper spray 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:29.800 to stop me. So there's three basic patterns that you 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.600 can spray this this liquid pepper out of your little dispenser. 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.160 It can be the stream, and chances are if you 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:41.160 have one of the little tiny caps are not capsule sized, 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.960 but like the little canister in your purse, then it's 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.400 probably gonna be the little stream that you see coming 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:50.040 out close range. Right in the eyes is where you 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:51.560 want to put it. But I mean it packs a 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:55.480 punch because it's super concentrated. Yeah, big time. Um, it's 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:59.080 just tough to hit your target. Yeah, So that's just 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.800 alone's like right up on top of you. The mist 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.640 is uh fine, you know missed. Obviously, liquid is sprayed 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.640 out and it's gonna cover a larger area make it 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:11.120 much easier to hit your target. And then the fog 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.680 is similar to a miss, but it's even wider and 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:17.560 it looks like Pike was using like the hip from 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:21.840 the hip canister a big one missed and or fog. 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.559 And there's also another one that's not mentioned. There's foam, 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:27.040 and foam has the able to deal there. Foam has 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:30.720 the additive advantage of not blowing back in your face, 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:33.600 which is a kind of a problem if you ever 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:37.560 are spraying somebody with an assailant. I just know where 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.800 the wind is and get the hit up wind. Do 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:43.840 you watch cops? Uh No, I watched it occasionally for fun. 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:45.760 I think I mentioned that before because it makes me 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.400 feel better about myself. I saw one the other day 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.319 when that was this guy like he wouldn't come out 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:55.360 of this really dense shrub, and uh so the cops 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.400 went in there after him, and then another one like 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:01.520 sprayed the heavy fog one and all these cops came 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:03.040 out and they were like, we got them, we got them, 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.760 but they couldn't see anything. It's like, man, you guys 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:09.600 did that in the wrong order, my friend, and it 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.160 wasn't funny. Of course, I don't want to see cops 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.840 pepper spray, so I'm not making fun of that, but 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:17.520 it was pretty funny at the time. So, uh, you're 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:21.160 gonna get about one to sixty bursts in your little 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.440 thing in your purse. It's about four and a half 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:27.079 inches long. If you have the little personal dispenser, yes, 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:31.800 which basically is just the canister, the trigger button, and 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:33.439 if you're smart, you butt the kind that has a 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.880 safety mechanism. Yeah, you don't want that going off in 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.520 your purse. No, you don't. Um And actually a pretty 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.880 good thing to do is to look to the left 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.120 or the right of the pepper spray you're buying at 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:48.240 the hardware store and get the medicated white specially formulated 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.760 for treating pepper spray. How did they sell those right 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.000 next to them? They tend to yees, So if you 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.520 have some in your person you're carrying that, you probably 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.400 want to keep these medicated wipes too, just in case 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:04.079 of an accident, because that would stink. I saw the 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:08.160 history of pepper spray, not the spray, but people have 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:13.280 actually been using hot peppers as defense and as torture 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:18.280 devices for like thousands and thousands of years. Apparently the 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:22.840 Japanese geisha would stick these peppers in there like slice mopen, 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.720 stick them in their kimonos. So if any guy got 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.680 a little too rough. Just put it in as fat 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.600 as pepper in his fat face. Yeah, that would do it. 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.880 Um and the Maya actually had they were well aware 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:39.920 and well versed with hot peppers living in Central America. UM, 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:43.320 And so anytime they were in a fight or a battle, 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.240 they would light a bunch of them on fire and 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:50.439 the smoke would carry to the other army and make 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.960 them die. I never thought about that, make them want 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.080 to die? Do you cook with peppers sometimes? I actually 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.760 made a New Year's resolution this year that I'm going 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:03.760 to be a bowl to eat hotter stuff in two 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:09.160 because I am a total WoT. I'm myself. I've gotten 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.679 better at it over the years, but like, yeah, a 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:14.880 hall Openio can take me out. Yeah, but some of 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.040 that stuff is so hot, it's like it's it's not 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:21.640 like a pleasurable eating experience any longer for me at least. No. 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:26.240 There's also a lot of people who feel the exact opposite. 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.840 For some reason, they really like peppers. Like Um, there's 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.240 this place in San Antonio called Chunky Burger. I believe 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.640 already they have a they have a um burger with 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:39.880 it's called the Four Horsemen, and you have to like 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:45.240 pre order it and it has habanerro. It has three 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:48.080 kinds of peppers that you've heard of, and then it 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.360 has a fourth pepper called the ghost pepper. Yea, the 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:55.240 ghost pepper is called boot Jill Lokia. It's from northern India, 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:59.200 Bangladesh area, and it is the world's hottest pepper, hottest 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:03.000 natural pepper. And um, there's a video. There's plenty of 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:06.480 videos actually on YouTube of people eating these things and 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.920 then like the reaction that lasts an hour. It is 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:13.680 agony for an hour. But in this cheeseburger has the 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:17.360 ghost pepper. And when they've made it before, people who 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.480 are not eating the ghostburger but just happened to be 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:21.760 in the restaurant when this thing was being prepared have 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.760 had to be carted off an ambulance as before because 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.559 they were in the same building as this stuff when 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.000 it was seared. The ghost Chili made an appearance on 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.440 Top Chef last week. Actually, yeah, they're they're doing Texas 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.959 this year, and so they had one of the challenges 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.080 was they had all these peppers laid out and they 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.640 had their Schofield heat units, which we'll talk about here 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.200 in a second as to how hot they were and 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.040 you got to choose your pepper and each one had 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:47.839 a different amount of money attached to it that you 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.079 would win if you want the challenge. And only one 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.720 dude attempted to cook with this, with the ghost pepper, 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:58.440 and he actually won the challenge. Ye nice, but I 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.400 got one for you, and I guess it's not natural. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:04.559 But the Guinness record is the scorpion, the Trinidad scorpion, 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:09.640 specifically the scorpion Butch t named for Butch Taylor. So 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:13.600 I guess this guy, this hot sall Sky, has made 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:18.000 his own pepper somehow and it registers one point four 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:23.040 million on the scofield He's like a Luther Burbank chart. 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:25.439 And to put that in the comparison, if you've ever 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.960 had a Heavin Eiro, which is generally known as really hot, 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:34.760 that's only three three, so that's crazy. A ghost Chili's 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.400 about a million, and this trendid scorpions one point four 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:42.360 and then pepper spray is that is so hot? Man, 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:46.040 this is so scary. Yeah. Pepper spray is rated um 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:50.640 between five hundred thousand and five million scofield units. So 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.120 this ghost pepper or the Scorpion pepper gets up to 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.920 one point five million. There's pepper spray out there, that's 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:59.520 at the five million. Scofield heat units and Schofield heat 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:03.240 units are named after an American chemist from like the 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:07.400 nineteen tens named Wilburg Schofield, and he came up with 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:11.080 a very ingenious idea of how to classify the heat 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:16.600 associated with a pepper agreed cap sasan um. He diluted 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:20.960 it in sugar syrup and then would have would feed 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.960 it to human test subjects. And the school filled heat 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:28.680 units say like nine thousand or five hundred thousand, that's 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.120 the number of times it has to be diluted before 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:36.360 it becomes undetectable by humans. That's right, And that's the 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:41.040 old school method, and it worked pretty well, but it is, 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:46.480 you know, subjective, because it's going by but a single 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.800 person's taste buds. And although I did see when he 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:53.080 tested them, they could only taste one and that was it. 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.120 So he didn't say, like, try these eight peppers, right, 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.520 let's try this pepper two thousand times. It was like 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:02.080 one pepper percession. Nowadays, they have something a little more 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:05.200 advanced that's a little more accurate within five and it's 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:10.040 called high performance liquid chromatography and I'm not exactly sure 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:14.160 how that works, but it works well. Well, it's not subjective, 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.280 I imagine. Yeah, And they, like I said, it's within 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.440 five percent, so they can tell. And I don't know 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:23.320 how they if they still displayed in scofield units, are not? 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.040 I think they do? Do they um? And they they 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.240 basically they take like the cap satan or they take 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.880 a pepper and just lay it on like a protozoa 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.280 or in amba and see how long it takes to 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:38.040 dissolve it. That's not subjective. When I cook with peppers 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.880 a d ced and I wear gloves and a painting 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:44.240 respirator because I inhale that stuff. And these aren't even 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.960 the super hot ones. Yeah, I just can't take it. Man. 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:49.400 Or if I rub my eyes or my nose or 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.760 any part of your body bad because what peppers do 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:57.880 with this peppers, the cap stasan in a pepper infiltrates 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:03.600 your mucous membranes is especially effectively, and especially the mucous 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:07.600 membranes that are sensitive to heat or cold, say your nose, 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.480 your throat, your mouth, your eyes, and is after you 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:14.280 cut it open or after you weaponize it. Yeah, but 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.280 if you just take like a jalapeno and rub it 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.880 on your skin. You're not gonna get much for react. No, no, 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:20.880 because like you said, the most is found in the 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.240 seeds or at the very least inside um. But like 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:28.760 we said, the pepper spray weaponized pepper spray UM with 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:32.440 a skillful heat unit of between five hundred thousand and 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:37.560 five million um is if if sprayed into these mucous 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:39.800 membranes of your area, is going to have a predictable 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.680 effect on you. And it's going to be horrific and 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.920 terrible for a while for you. Yes, what it's gonna do. 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.720 You're gonna feel burning sensation in your in your face, 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.520 your eyes, your nose, in your mouth, maybe even your throat. 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:55.040 Uh that's gonna last anywhere from forty five minutes to 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:59.840 an hour. Uh. Your eyes are gonna become really irritated. 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.880 They might swell shut, might temporarily blind you. Which is 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.320 a great thing if you're being attacked or if a 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:11.000 cop is being assaulted, because it's meant to disable the person. 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:15.400 Like it took me a second, that was weird. Uh, 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.440 what you want to do? You're just trying to disable 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:19.800 someone long enough to either arrest them, or to get 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:21.760 the heck out of there. If you're just being assaulted 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.439 on the street and I have a canister of pepper 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.879 spray and it says it's not immediate in this article 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.360 it says the effects are immediate. It says the effects 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.920 are not immediate, So spray and run and make an 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:41.840 X at the eyes. Yeah, I'd just like, do you 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:46.119 carry this canister and run? Is this in your car? Yeah? 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.879 Really interesting? You know, mess with me, dude, if you 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.160 see me in the Volvo, you don't want to mess 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.159 with me. I got one of those collapsible batons, do 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.399 you really? Yeah? Man, those are scary. I don't keep 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.280 it in my car. I can brain somebody with that. 0:17:58.359 --> 0:17:59.920 I don't know. I'll keep it by my bed. Though. 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:05.920 It's good thinking take out the knee. I like the 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:07.639 pepper spray better, though. I should get some of that. 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:09.879 You totally should. I mean I buy it for Emily, 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:14.360 of course, what are you trying to say? Hey, if 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.520 I'm not carrying a class of baton and less than 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.320 a man, do you know I think you should get 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.679 a baseball bat with the nails driven through the end 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:26.240 of it, like in New York. Okay, all right. Uh, 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:27.919 you're not less than a man if you use peppers. 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:32.000 I know. I'm very comfortable with myself and my masculinity. Good. 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:36.639 Your throat, Josh, might even swell shut. Um, it's not 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.240 gonna like choke you to death. It depends, well I could, 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.280 I guess huh. And if you're allergic to anything in there, 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.239 if you've got like heart trouble, that's how I can 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.600 choke you to It could be fatal. Yeah, there's plenty 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:49.240 of Um, there's plenty of instances of people who are 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:53.320 allergic to cap Sason being sprayed with pepper spray and 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:58.080 going into an anaphylaxis, which is basically a whole body 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:02.320 allergic reaction. And one of the key stars of this 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:06.520 reaction is that your airwaghs close and you die. Yeah. 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.080 It says here though that they've never proven that that 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:12.120 was the sole cause of death in any case, Absolutely untrue. 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.760 Is that? Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, they've proven that, right. Yeah, 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:20.760 people with asthma are particularly um plagued when they are 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:23.639 sprayed with pepper spray. But the A c. L. You 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:29.199 did just this one study of California um in I 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.159 believe it's ninety two, it became legal for cops to 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.560 use pepper spray, and then in ninety four in California, 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:37.280 and then in ninety four it became legal for the 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:39.480 general public to carry. So they cel you did this 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:46.760 study of UM pepper spray in California from among cops 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:50.480 and found that they were cops were using it statewide. 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:53.560 Basically they're spraying people twenty four times a day during 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:56.520 this period all over the whole state. They found that 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.639 one out of about six hundred sprays resulted in the 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:04.359 death of the person from sprays and UM about twenty 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:06.720 six people total during that time died from me and 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:12.399 pepper sprayed. YEA, so potentially lethal. Well, yeah, definitely, and 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.080 it's for the thing is for the average person though. No, 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:19.840 your nose is going to um burn, your eyes are 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.480 going to burn, You're gonna become temporarily blind. Like you said, 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:24.920 you throw, it will swell some so it will be 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.320 kind of difficult to breathe, but that might last five 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:33.120 to fifteen minutes. Um. The problem with pepper spray, other 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.040 than the fact that it's just being used like it's 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:40.880 flower lately, is that, um, there are people out there 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:42.960 who can die from its use, and you don't know 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:45.240 who's allergic to CAP, says, and they might not even know. 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:49.240 Woman in Seattle for insance, great example. If she hadn't 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:52.159 built up her hardcore immunity to whatever the years of 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:54.840 protesting right, she might have died. She would have been 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:57.800 in trouble. So let's say you get sprayed and you're, uh, 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:00.320 we're not gonna giving advice to criminals here. But let's 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:04.199 say you're a good guy and you're peacefully sitting on 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:06.960 the sidewalk and a cop comes by and spraying in 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:10.560 the face. It's oil, you gotta remember. So while it 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:12.919 may feel great to splash your face with water for 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.760 a minute, it's not gonna do anything in the long run. 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:20.720 And why oil and water don't mix? My main why Well, 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:24.840 because H one is a polar molecule, was made of 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.640 polar molecules, and what's made of nonpolar The water's polar, 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:31.359 meaning that say, if you're looking at um a water molecule, 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:33.320 on one side, there's gonna be some electrons and one 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:38.680 side is gonna be protons positive and negative. Oils are nonpolar, 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:42.400 meaning they're electrons are distributed evenly all around. So that's 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:44.720 why they don't mix, which is like you said, water 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:46.760 is gonna feel good for a second, but it's not 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:50.439 gonna do anything to get the oil in the oily 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:52.680 capsaction off of your face, which is what you want 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:55.879 to do. Uh, you don't want to touch the area 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:57.920 on your face or even sprayed, because it's gonna get 0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:01.480 all over your hands except chuck, except to get your 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:05.399 if you're wearing contacts, just jam your fingers into your 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:07.640 eyes and get those out. As you can't just throw 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:10.200 them away. Well, I don't imagine you would want to 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:13.280 reuse us. No, but in this this um this one 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:16.360 survival guide I saw it basically said like don't don't 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:18.639 keep them. I never thought about that. I guess if 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:21.960 you wear glasses, you might be h you know, at 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:24.840 an advantage. Yeah, if you had on your sunny especially 0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:27.639 if you were like wrap around Oakley's or something that 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:29.639 you wear on the back of your neck indoors and 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:31.720 like restaurants. So what you're saying is if you're a 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:35.280 tremendous cheeseball, then then you're fine, but you're probably the 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:38.479 one spraying the protesters if you wear Oakley's, Like that 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:40.560 is the thing. So there's some dudes that they were like, 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:46.480 what what right? Uh? It says in here to to 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.919 blink rapidly. I think you probably have no choice but 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:52.800 to do that. But let's say you're not and you're 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:56.560 just going with your eyes open, blink rapidly because you 0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:59.200