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Speaker 1: Investigative reporter Cheryl Jones back with us. She's been a

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Speaker 1: how long, Cheryl Hollong, you been with us? I started

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Speaker 1: in September of twenty nineteen, three years already goes by fast.

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Speaker 1: How was your Thanksgiving? It's very good. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: a hybrid holiday, says I'm working too, as you know,

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Speaker 1: you're familiar with that. Yeah, me too. But everything's everything's fine.

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Speaker 1: The turkey's fine, everything's good. I went over my son's place,

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Speaker 1: And now, normally I host Thanksgiving, but this time they

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Speaker 1: it and they had a great time. Well that's great,

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Speaker 1: that's great. You seem to have a very wonderful and

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Speaker 1: large family, great three kids, and they're all fantastic. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'm blessed. There's so years ago, I mean years ago,

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Speaker 1: I picked up a book called Journeys out of the

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Speaker 1: And I am so delighted to know that you have

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Speaker 1: an incredible story about the Monroe Institute. Yes, it does

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Speaker 1: go back a long way. Robert Monroe is no longer alive, sadly,

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Speaker 1: sure accomplished a lot. And this interview tonight is about

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Speaker 1: that exploration of consciousness and the work of Robert Monroe,

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Speaker 1: one of the foremost pioneers in the field. He was

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Speaker 1: also a Virginia businessman when all of these out of

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Speaker 1: and let him to create the internationally known Monroe Institute.

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Speaker 1: He went to psychi through his doctors. He just could

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Speaker 1: not find any answers here on earth. A world leader

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Speaker 1: for the study of human consciousness, the Institute through very

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Speaker 1: high tech and sophisticated sound technology. The research has continued

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Speaker 1: and concluded concluding that we are much more than our

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Speaker 1: physical body. George my guest Tonight, renowned Monroe Institute expert

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Speaker 1: President and executive Director Alan Evans shares insight into using

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Speaker 1: Monroe Sound Science or what's called MSS, with what is

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Speaker 1: Hello Allen, Welcome to coast. Hello, glad to be here.

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Speaker 1: We're so glad to have you, Allen. For our listeners

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Speaker 1: who may not be familiar with the life journey of

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Speaker 1: Robert Monroe and the Monroe Institute, can you share a

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Speaker 1: little bit about that amazing story. Oh yes, it's a

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Speaker 1: good one. So Robert Monroe started having these spontaneous out

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Speaker 1: He didn't. He really thought he was going crazy, and

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Speaker 1: so he sought out help. He went to his family doctor,

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Speaker 1: this new endeavor, and interestingly enough, he started scouting for

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Speaker 1: What were his best known books that he wrote about

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Speaker 1: can you describe that book for our listeners. So interestingly enough,

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Speaker 1: What inspired you personally, Alan that led you to your

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Speaker 1: the target and describe it, tell us what it is,

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Speaker 1: and we set up a very strong protocol of a

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Speaker 1: double blind situation where none of the trainers, none of

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Speaker 1: the participants, no one on site knew what the target was.

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Speaker 1: It was an outside source who gave us the target

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Speaker 1: and who graded the results, and we ended up with

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Speaker 1: every participant, whether they were a beginner or not we

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Speaker 1: had some beginners. Every participant successively identified the target. Listen

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