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Speaker 1: Says a great game or what and welcome back to

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Speaker 1: can take two guys, sound a lot alike and look

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Speaker 1: a lot of like. It's been an exciting week in

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. On Monday, they celebrated Jackie Robinson Day,

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Speaker 1: which is such a beautiful showing of how important Jackie

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Speaker 1: Robinson was in the game of baseball in the country.

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Speaker 2: Right, And Jerry Hairston is going to join us later

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Speaker 2: in the show to talk about Jackie Robinson. But it's

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Speaker 2: a beautiful thing, Jeffrey, when you look and see that

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Speaker 2: every player on the field is wearing number forty two

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Speaker 2: as a tribute to Jackie Robinson, because he is the

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Speaker 2: most important player in the history of the sport. Babe

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Speaker 2: Ruth for me is number two, but it's not a

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Speaker 2: close second. Jackie Robinson chain the game when he broke

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Speaker 2: the color barrier in nineteen forty seven, and he changed

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Speaker 2: the country. Hank Aaron told me, if it weren't for

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Speaker 2: Jackie Robinson, I would have never played in the Major leagues,

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Speaker 2: not just because he broke the color barrier, but Jackie

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Speaker 2: Robinson made young black men like Hank Aaron think I

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Speaker 2: can do this someday. Rex Barney was a pitcher for

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Speaker 2: And he said, Tim, you cannot believe the disgraceful things

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Speaker 2: the strongest man I've ever met in my life. And

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Speaker 2: Frank Robinson told me that the lesson that Jackie taught

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Speaker 2: Jackie's number, of course, is retired in perpetuity, number forty two.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be funny about this, because this

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Speaker 2: on like how important he was. But about fifteen years ago,

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Speaker 2: a young player on the Nationals went to all the

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Speaker 2: in every park and he looked at a teammate and said,

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Speaker 2: how many teams did Jackie Robinson play for? Well, I

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Speaker 2: don't want to be flip about this. The point is

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Speaker 2: they traded him to the New York Giants, who was

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Speaker 2: the Art Trival, and instead of him going to the Giants,

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Speaker 2: whose brains he wanted to beat out all those years.

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Speaker 1: I think Red Sox fans wish Babe Ruth had done

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Speaker 2: So we're going to get into more.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear more from you, Dad about the

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Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson the player, how good of a player he

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Speaker 1: an incredible showing for Jackie Robinson day. But from Jackie

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Speaker 1: to Jackson, the player that everybody's talking about right now,

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Speaker 1: Jackson Holiday made his major league debut and finally got

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Speaker 2: was Cal Ripkin Senior. Cal Junior's father, and Cal Senior

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Speaker 2: Now I'm not making this up. In the basement, he

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Speaker 1: I don't want to pick your story apart, but I

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Speaker 2: Very good, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: Our game changer of the week, We're gonna do this

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Speaker 2: Right, who's our game changer this week? Yeah, I'm going

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Speaker 2: with Andrew McCutcheon, who hit home run number three hundred

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Speaker 2: I've told you how talented Steven Vote is. He can sing,

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Speaker 1: I remember when he signed to come back to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: He is revered there. You know, there's Clemeny, there's Willie Stargell,

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Speaker 1: Big news for the New York Mets, Dwight Gooden gets

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Speaker 2: Now, right, he is one of the greatest pictures I've

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Speaker 2: And that was a seminole moment in Roger Clemens's career

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Speaker 2: ten heads, and he said, we don't have any bud

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Speaker 2: lights here. I said, well, what's the closest thing you

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Speaker 2: have to a bud light? And he pointed to the

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Speaker 2: water fountain in the quarner. That's what he thought, because

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Speaker 2: he run micro brewery where they have all these great beers.

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Speaker 2: So we had a Miller versus Bush, which is pretty good.

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Speaker 2: You know. I like to put things in your perspective.

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Speaker 1: Asking the brewmaster for a bud light and a brewery

437
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Speaker 1: is like a guy from the stands seeing Randy Johnson

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Speaker 1: in his prime.

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Speaker 2: So I think I could get one to left center.

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Speaker 2: That's how insulting that is, right, I know, and believe me,

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Speaker 2: he was completely insulted with what I did. But the

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Speaker 2: last two years we've had we've had a Jake Berger.

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Speaker 2: He faced John King, so we had her King, and

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Speaker 2: then the year after we had Jake Berger against Michael King,

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Speaker 2: so we had two Burger King at bats in a

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Speaker 2: span of two years.

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Speaker 1: Somebody put together their favorite fantasy baseball matchups that they

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Speaker 1: always wanted to see, including Dennis Leonard and Joel Skinner.

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Speaker 1: It would be Leonard Skinner or Al Holland and Johnny

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Speaker 1: Oates would be Hollands.

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Speaker 2: That one might be my favorite.

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Speaker 1: It's not quite Hall and Oats, it's Holland Oats, right.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: They're clever people out there that do this, but only

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Speaker 2: with baseball. What about Jr. Richard and Ted Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Richard Simmons, have you ever taken one of those classes.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely, warn that kind of outfum and they faced

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Speaker 2: each other Jr. Richard and Ted, Yes, they did absolutely.

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Speaker 1: What about Jim Barr and Mike Heath Heath bar That's.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good. I don't know how many of those

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Speaker 2: actually happened yet, but this happened. Elvis Luciano pitched against

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Speaker 2: Elvis Andrews in a game a few years ago. So

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Speaker 2: we had the Elvis versus Elvis, which is pretty hard

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Speaker 2: to do. It's a pretty unusual name. And it ended

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Speaker 2: in a single, which is great because Elvis had one

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventeen singles, which which is great. But just

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Speaker 2: to finish jef On, the greatest one that never happened

468
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Speaker 2: was the Cubs used to have an infielder name Darwin

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Speaker 2: Barney and the Dodgers had a pitcher named Stephen Fife.

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Speaker 2: Now this is only gonna matter to our old people

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Speaker 2: out there, unfortunately, so I track this, this is gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have a Stephen Fife against Darwin Barney. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna have a Barney Fife at bat. And anyone who

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Speaker 2: loves Andy and Mayberry, the Andy Griffith Show, Barney Fife

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Speaker 2: is one of the greatest at Cub characters ever. So

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Speaker 2: I am I am prepared for this. I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: Today's the day Stephen Fife is going to Wrigley Field

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Speaker 2: to pitch and Darwin Barney's gonna play. And Dale swam

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Speaker 2: the manager of the Cubs, just gives Darwin Barney a

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Speaker 2: day off and he didn't play that day. I will

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Speaker 2: never speak to Dale Swab ever again for the rest

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Speaker 2: of my life. He blew the greatest at bat in

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Speaker 2: the history of baseball, Barney Fife. It never happened. And

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Speaker 2: I am so disappointed to this day.

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Speaker 1: I am so disappointed that after years of reporting on

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Speaker 1: this game, you never made an enemy. You taught me

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Speaker 1: as a kid, never burn a bridge.

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Speaker 2: You burned a bridge over the dumbest thing, right, and

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Speaker 2: Dale Sway would lad? I love Dale Swaybe. Just look

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Speaker 2: at me and go, Tim, you gotta get a life, man,

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Speaker 2: and he would be right. I'm excited to put you

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Speaker 2: to the test with It's in the cards.

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Speaker 3: We open up.

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Speaker 1: A deck of cards from tops and we just read

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Speaker 1: through the guards and talk about the players. So let's

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Speaker 1: get this started here, Okay, oh wow, look at this

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Speaker 1: right out of the gate. We got Boston Red Sox.

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Speaker 1: Ken Lee Jansen. Another shout out to my buddy Jensen

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Speaker 1: for the cork gin earlier in the show. Not Jensen,

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Speaker 1: but Jansen here So on Sunday, April the fourteenth, ken

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Speaker 1: Lee Jansen just recorded to save number four twenty four,

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Speaker 1: which ties him now with John Franco for fifth most

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Speaker 1: saves of all time. But Kenlee Janson, Jeff, as you know,

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Speaker 1: is an enormous man. And he was a catcher in

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Speaker 1: the minor leagues and then they turned him into a

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Speaker 1: pitcher and he's become one of the best relief pictures

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Speaker 1: of all time. And I love this so much that

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, Clayton Kershaw of the Dodgers, the best picture.

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Speaker 2: In the game at the time, got a save in

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Speaker 2: a postseason game. This is twenty sixteen, because they ran

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Speaker 2: out of pictures. He had to come in and save it.

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Speaker 2: It was his first save and his only save since

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Speaker 2: he saved a game in the minor leagues in two

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Speaker 2: thousand and six. And his catcher that day was ken

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Speaker 2: Lee No Chansen. How great is that? And then they

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Speaker 2: were teammates when he got that save for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: They were teammates, all right, Charlie Morton, they were roommates

518
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Speaker 1: reference to a TikTok si that was it bad?

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Speaker 2: A bad reference. Charlie Morton of the Braves, Right, Charlie

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Speaker 2: Morton is a renaissance man, Jeff. He can play the guitar.

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00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 2: Uncle Matt was so great with his hands building things,

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Speaker 2: carpentry building. Charlie Morton is that way. He's also like

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Speaker 2: the greatest barbecue cook you've ever seen, like cooking meat.

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Speaker 2: He's got He's got a big, gigantic like grill at

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Speaker 2: his house that he can hook up to the back

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Speaker 2: of his car so he can, like if they're going

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Speaker 2: away or if they want to go into the woods

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Speaker 2: and cook or something. He has an attachment like you

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Speaker 2: can bring the grill with you. He's and he explained

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Speaker 2: to me the whole process. You know, he wakes up

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Speaker 2: at two o'clock in the morning to get the meat going.

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Speaker 2: So so just to tell you how stupid Twitter it

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Speaker 2: could be, where e X could be whatever it's called

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Speaker 2: that I jokingly said on the air, knowing how much

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Speaker 2: he loves to cook meat. I said on the air

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Speaker 2: in a game I was doing, I said, Charlie Morton

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Speaker 2: should consider opening his own steakhouse and call it Morton's.

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Speaker 2: And some guy writes in he goes, Tim, you are

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Speaker 2: an idiot. Don't you even know there is a chain

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Speaker 2: of steakhouses called Morton's. Yes, I knew that. I was

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Speaker 2: trying to make a joke and you didn't even get it.

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Speaker 1: This is your redemption, yell at people from Twitter on

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Speaker 1: your podcast.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. No, no, you don't.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan India of the Cincinnati Reds Now, I want to

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Speaker 1: say real quick, it's in the cards. You're listening on

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Speaker 1: the podcast right, we're ripping this right out of the deck.

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Speaker 1: If you watch on YouTube, you can actually see the

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Speaker 1: cards and be looking at you know, the cards themselves

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Speaker 1: from top.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead. Jonathan India is a really good player infielder.

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Speaker 2: He can really hit University of Florida, and he's on

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Speaker 2: my all country team. I was going, I didn't want

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Speaker 2: to put you on the spot. Well, well I saw

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Speaker 2: that team. A guy named Bill Poland is the catcher.

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Speaker 2: I can't. I don't think I could do this off

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Speaker 2: the top of my head. Tim, Tim Ireland's at first,

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Speaker 2: u Ty France is at second, right. Germany, Germany Schaeffer's

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Speaker 2: at shortstop, Chad Pinders in the outfield, Brian Jordan's in

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Speaker 2: the outfield. God, I can't believe. I can't And oh,

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Speaker 2: Jonathan India is in the infield right right? Did you know?

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Speaker 2: Did you know that.

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Speaker 1: We have like I'm not kidding, like six listeners in Australia.

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Speaker 2: Really we have six listeners in Australia. Son, can we

565
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Speaker 2: give him a good day mate? Or good day mate?

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Speaker 2: Throw a shrimp on the bobby. They don't even call

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Speaker 2: it a shrimp there by the way. It's a prawn.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's not a shrimp, all right, all right.

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Speaker 2: So Jonathan India is on and my pictures, of course

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Speaker 2: are Derek Holland and Mark Portugal. Yeah, I asked. I

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Speaker 2: asked Jonathan India once about his name and I said, Jonathan,

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Speaker 2: it is an unusual name. And he goes, you can't

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Speaker 2: believe this. People come up to me all the time

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Speaker 2: and say are you Are you from India and he says, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm not from India. I'm from Florida. It's just my

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Speaker 2: last name is India. So he's on the all country

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Speaker 2: team that I came up with, and Mike Monaco my

578
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Speaker 2: partner at ESPN. He's the broadcaster for the team. That

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Speaker 2: is right, he as to me.

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Speaker 1: You know, that is almost as dumb of a question.

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Speaker 1: My wife is a twin but she has a twin brother,

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Speaker 1: and she claims many times people ask after hearing, oh

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Speaker 1: you have a twin brother, are you guys identical?

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Speaker 2: Right? That's seriously she gets that question right. Are you

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Speaker 2: from India? By the way, the manager of the Twins, yeah,

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Speaker 2: his wife had twins. Yeah, recently. He's the manager of

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Speaker 2: the Twins. He's not the manager of the Cardinals. This

588
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: guy's the manager of the Twins and his wife had twins.

589
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Speaker 2: That is so baseball, right, That is so perfect? All right?

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Speaker 1: Next up, it's in the Cards Ronald Acunya Junior with

591
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Speaker 1: the Braves. I like the Posey's doing on this card too.

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Speaker 2: Now we all know how great Ronald Counya Junior is,

593
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: so I'm not going to tell you anything other than

594
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: Chipper Jones last year looked at me. Chipper Jones, one

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Speaker 2: of the four greatest third basement of all time, one

596
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Speaker 2: of the four greatest switch hitters of all time. He

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Speaker 2: looked at me and said, Ronald Acunya Junior is the

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Speaker 2: most talented player I've ever seen, Wow wear a major

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Speaker 2: league uniform. That's who we're talking about. Last year, no

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Speaker 2: one had ever hit thirty homers and stolen sixty bases

601
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: in a season. He went forty seventy. That's how good

602
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Speaker 2: that kid is. Wow.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, that's what we wrapped up. I mean, last,

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Speaker 1: but not least. I'm excited. This is Mookie Betts. And

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Jerry Harriston Jr.

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Speaker 1: Here soon, who's a broadcaster for the Dodgers and a

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Speaker 1: former major league player who played in both the infield

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Speaker 1: and the outfield, and I want to ask him about

610
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: what Mookie Betts is doing is as amazing as it

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Speaker 1: seems to me at least to just be like, hey, can.

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Speaker 2: You play short stop for us? Sure, I'll play short stop.

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Speaker 2: This is unprecedented what Mookie Betts is doing. Only two players,

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Speaker 2: Tony Wollmack and Tom Tresh, have ever played one hundred

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Speaker 2: games in the outfield and then gone and played seventy

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Speaker 2: or more games at shortstop the following season. And that's

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Speaker 2: what Mookie Betts is doing. But with all due respect

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Speaker 2: to Tony Wollmack and Tom Tresh, they weren't six times

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Speaker 2: Gold Glove outfielders, they weren't second in the MVP. And

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Speaker 2: he moves from being the premier defensive right fielder and

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Speaker 2: moved to the middle infield. It's amazing what Mookie Bets

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Speaker 2: can do. And Jerry Harrison is going to tell us

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Speaker 2: all about him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that interview is coming up, but right now, similar

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Speaker 1: to it's in the cards, putting you kind of up

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Speaker 1: against it here, it's called the league in the lid. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I've put every single team. Now, we've taken out

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Speaker 1: the teams we've already done to the Reds out, the

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Speaker 1: Yankees out.

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Speaker 2: So now we have twenty eight Major League Baseball teams.

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Speaker 2: Off the top of your head.

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Speaker 1: You got to tell me either what's happening now for

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Speaker 1: them or maybe a historical fact about them. We've got

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Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Brewers up this week.

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Speaker 2: Okay. The Brewers are one of the real surprise teams

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Speaker 2: so far of twenty twenty four. They just had a

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Speaker 2: seven game stretch jeb in which they scored six or

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00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: more runs in each game. In the history of the franchise,

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Speaker 2: they've only done that twice nineteen eighty two and nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty nine. And again, this was not supposed to be

641
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: a really good hitting Brewers team right now, but so

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00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: far it has been. And by the way, that eighty

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00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: two Brewers team was one of my favorite teams ever.

644
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Speaker 2: They were called Harvey's Wallbangers because Harvey Keane was the manager,

645
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Speaker 2: and they just crushed the ball all over the field.

646
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: Robinell Paul Molandor where the star of that team. But

647
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Speaker 2: my favorite player on that team in a lot of

648
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Speaker 2: ways was Jim Gantner, who was their tough little second baseman.

649
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: His nickname was Gumby Number seventeen. So Jim Gantner, while

650
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: he played for the Brewers, also owned a lube shop

651
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: where you can a loub shop like where you can

652
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: take your car in to get it fixed thanks so

653
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Speaker 2: as as part of an auction item that the Brewers did,

654
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: Jim Gantner would go to people's houses and change their

655
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: oil in their driveway while he was the second baseman

656
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Speaker 2: for the Milwaukee Brewers. Now, I know it was for

657
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 2: you know, it's for charity, and it was an auction item,

658
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Speaker 2: but I just love it that the second base knocks

659
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Speaker 2: on the door that says, hi, I'm Jim Ganner. I'm

660
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Speaker 2: here to change your oil. That's a great story. We

661
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Speaker 2: want to get to our sackfly tracker.

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Speaker 1: This is because you're fascinated by sacrifice flies. So where

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Speaker 1: are we at in the season and the significance.

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Speaker 2: Of sackflies this year? All right, Well, I love sacrifice flies.

665
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Speaker 2: I think they're great. So Nolan Arenado hit a sacrifice

666
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Speaker 2: fly just the other day, so that's number seventy for him.

667
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Speaker 2: So he is the all time leader among active players

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Speaker 2: in sacrifice flies with seventy. Now we've only charted them

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Speaker 2: from nineteen fifty four on, so we can't go all

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Speaker 2: the way back because you used to get a sacrifice

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Speaker 2: fly at least for a short period if you advanced

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Speaker 2: a runner from second to third or even first to second.

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Speaker 2: But it's been the same rule since nineteen fifty four.

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Speaker 2: But the interesting part is from fifty four on, the

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Speaker 2: player with the most sacrificed flies in baseball is Eddie

676
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Speaker 2: Murray with one hundred and twenty eight. Second on that

677
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Speaker 2: list is his dear friend and his teammate, Cal Ripken

678
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Speaker 2: with one twenty seven. And yet Eddie Murray, who is

679
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Speaker 2: the all time leader in sacrifice flies for a career,

680
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Speaker 2: never led the league in sacrifice flies during any season. Now,

681
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: think about that. It's like being the all time home

682
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Speaker 2: run king but never leading your leading and home runs,

683
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Speaker 2: or the NBA's leading scorer all time, but never leading

684
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Speaker 2: the league and scoring. That's how weird sacrifice flies can be.

685
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Speaker 2: And Josh Naylor hit another. It's just a sailor another reference, right,

686
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Speaker 2: he had two in one game, Josh Dale. Really, yes,

687
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Speaker 2: how about that? That doesn't happen very often. That's our

688
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Speaker 2: sackfly tracker.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to Jerry Harriston Junior and talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit more about Jackie Robinson Day celebrating this past

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Speaker 1: Monday in Major League Baseball, and I'm really looking forward

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Speaker 1: for that conversation. I want to kind of round out

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Speaker 1: our conversation from last week. We gave our listeners a hypothetical.

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Speaker 1: Would they rather have ten thousand dollars cash or twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours to hit a hole in one in a

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five yard part three to get

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Speaker 1: a million dollars? If you do it, fifty one point

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Speaker 1: five percent of our listeners are taken the shot at

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Speaker 1: a million dollars.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it was overwhelming. It's close. To fifty

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Speaker 2: to fifty. It is really close.

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Speaker 1: But you said you would definitely take the thousand or

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Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars off the bat. But that's because I

704
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: know your swing isn't what it used to be. One

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five yards.

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Speaker 2: It's like a five iron now, Rye. If I'm sixty seven,

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Speaker 2: I have an artificed it is, and I have an

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Speaker 2: artificial hip, and I would be exhausted after an hour,

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Speaker 2: let alone twenty four hours. So I just don't think

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Speaker 2: it's gonna work for me. The mathematics are against me.

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Speaker 2: So I'm taking the ten grand. It's a gift, Harold,

712
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Speaker 2: it's a hockey season. Take the ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: So with that being said, we talked to John Smaltz

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Speaker 1: about the Master's big, big shout out Scottie s Sheffler

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Speaker 1: for his victory s s and I was just out

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Speaker 1: of curiosity, thinking, okay, is he the best double single?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: Initial first initial s, second initial s, same initial as first.

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Speaker 2: And last name.

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Speaker 1: This is what you've done to me, by the way,

721
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Speaker 1: this is the curse of the Kirkshiins. And I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's the greatest golfer with the same first and

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Speaker 1: last initial.

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Speaker 2: You got Ernie Els, you got Sam Snead.

725
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Speaker 1: But who would you say Dad is the greatest baseball

726
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Speaker 1: player with the same first and last initial.

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Speaker 2: Jeff, are you coming up with this on your own? When?

728
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Speaker 2: When are you asleep when this comes out? You're in

729
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: the shower. I love it. I no think like me,

730
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Speaker 2: which is not healthy. I've told you a million times,

731
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Speaker 2: don't be like me. I want to don't clip out

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Speaker 2: every box score for twenty years. It's not healthy. So

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Speaker 2: I prepared my answer and I just all right, all right,

734
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Speaker 2: I've been stalling as I try to come up with

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Speaker 2: So Barry Bonds has to be the greatest. But people

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Speaker 2: are going to say Barry Bonds. I'm not saying he's

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Speaker 2: the third greatest hitter of all time. For me, after

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Speaker 2: Babe Ruth and Ted Williams. I've never seen a better

739
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Speaker 2: hitter than Barry Bonds, period. But but I'm going to

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Speaker 2: take Mickey Mantle instead, because Mickey Mantle in a lot

741
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Speaker 2: of ways, changed the game when Mickey Mantle broke into

742
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Speaker 2: the big leagues. I'm gonna be real close on this.

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Speaker 2: The percentage of switch hitters. Three percent of the players

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Speaker 2: were switch hitters. After Mickey Mantle came along and became

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Speaker 2: the greatest switch hitter of all time. Like thirty years later,

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Speaker 2: twenty eight percent of the players were switch hitters. You

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Speaker 2: know why, Jeff, Because these dads grew up watching Mickey

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Speaker 2: Mantle play and they told their sons, hey, if you

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Speaker 2: want to be one of the greatest players of all time,

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Speaker 2: And Mickey Mantle was one of the greatest players of

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Speaker 2: all time, become a switch hitter. So in a lot

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Speaker 2: of ways he changed the game. So I'm going with MM.

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Speaker 2: But I love your Scottie Scheffler. I don't think he's

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Speaker 2: Sam Sneid, but it's pretty he's pretty darn good.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to challenge you for next week because

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Speaker 1: I think Barry bonds BB which is walk right, he

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Speaker 1: walked a lot in addition to the amount of home runs.

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Speaker 1: Next week, I want you to think of the best

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Speaker 1: h R home run initials h R, best player with

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Speaker 1: h R of all time.

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Speaker 2: Don't do it now because you're not going to be

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Speaker 2: able to sleep already, got it, George Herman, Ruth, No,

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Speaker 2: that's gh Go all right, go that's grand home run now.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it works that way.

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Speaker 1: All right, So before we get to Jerry Harrison Jr.

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Speaker 1: And talking about Jackie Robinson. We mentioned it at the top,

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Speaker 1: but I want to hear from you what kind of

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Speaker 1: player Jackie Robinson was.

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Speaker 2: Well, again, we get lost a little bit, as we

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Speaker 2: should in what a trailblazer he was, what a pioneer

771
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Speaker 2: he was, and how important he was to the game.

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Speaker 2: But let's not forget Jeff how great a player he was.

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Speaker 2: He's the greatest player for me in the history of

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers. Jackie Robinson won. Sandy Kofax two. This is

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Speaker 2: my list. Nobody else's Clayton Kershaw three, Duke Snyder fourth.

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Speaker 2: As far as second baseman go, you could make a

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Speaker 2: case he's one of the Mount Rushmore second baseman. For me,

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Speaker 2: it's Rogers hornsby Joe Morgan, Eddie Collins, Jackie Robinson. Dave Anderson,

779
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Speaker 2: great columnist Hall of Famer for the New York Times,

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Speaker 2: once wrote that Jackie Robinson could beat you more ways

781
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Speaker 2: in a game than anybody else. Now, frankly, I disagree.

782
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Speaker 2: I think Willie Mays could beat you in more ways.

783
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Speaker 2: But Jackie Robinson was a great defensive second baseman, wildly

784
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Speaker 2: underrated a really good hitter, lifetime three hundred hitter, and

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Speaker 2: he won an MVP, who won the Rookie of the Year,

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Speaker 2: and one of the great base runners in the history

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Speaker 2: of the sport. And Jeff, the reason he was so

788
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Speaker 2: good is he was an amazing athlete. He was an

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Speaker 2: All American running back at UCLA. He led the Pac

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Speaker 2: ten in scoring in basketball two years in a row.

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Speaker 2: He was a track star, he was a great golfer,

792
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Speaker 2: he was a tennis player, and for me, he's one

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Speaker 2: of the four greatest second basemen of all time. That's

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Speaker 2: who Jackie Robinson is one of the greatest athletes ever

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Speaker 2: to play the sport and to repeat, the most important

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Speaker 2: player in the history of baseball.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, Jerry Harriston Junior joins us. He's a member

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Speaker 1: of the Dodgers broadcasting team. He is of a lineage

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Speaker 1: of baseball players. His grandfather was a Negro League player

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Speaker 1: and a Major League baseball player. His father as well,

801
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Speaker 1: and of course he had quite the career. Can't wait

802
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Speaker 1: to talk to him more about the life and legacy

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Speaker 1: of Jackie Robinson.

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Speaker 2: Along with a lot more that's coming up next.

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Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what welcomes a former

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Speaker 1: Major leaguer. Three generation Major League Baseball Family. Jerry Harriston

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Speaker 1: Junior is on the podcast. Jerry, thank you for joining.

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Speaker 3: Us, Jeff and Tim, how you guys doing. Glad to

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Speaker 3: be here?

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball April fifteenth, celebrating Jackie Robinson Day. A

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Speaker 1: huge day, important to the history of the game, but

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Speaker 1: not only the game of our country. Right, can you

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Speaker 1: explain a little bit the impact Jackie had not only

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Speaker 1: on baseball as a whole, but as on the United States.

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Speaker 4: Well, Jeff, you said it right, You know, it was

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Speaker 4: the impact on our country. And you know we always

817
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Speaker 4: talk about black baseball, the negro leagues, but this is

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Speaker 4: American history.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: Jackie Robinson when he made his Brooklyn Dodgers debut, Martin

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00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 4: Luther King really stated back then and that kind.

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Speaker 3: Of sparked the civil rights movement.

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Speaker 4: They had a guy in Jackie Robinson who was very articulate,

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Speaker 4: extremely smart. He accomplished so much prior leading up to

825
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Speaker 4: his major league debut. Obviously, he served in our military,

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Speaker 4: played at UCLA. I believe he starred in four different

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Speaker 4: sports at UCLA. So, but he was really accomplished. So

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Speaker 4: they had the perfect guy to represent the black baseball

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Speaker 4: players and to break the color barrier. Yes, we're there

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Speaker 4: are better players, and even Jackie Robinson admitted back then

831
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Speaker 4: there are better players at him, but he was he

832
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Speaker 4: was probably the best guy for the job to break

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Speaker 4: through and obviously thrived on the baseball field while kind

834
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Speaker 4: of holding his tongue when he had to, and it

835
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Speaker 4: allowed for other people of color to play eventually, So Martin,

836
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Speaker 4: as the King said it best Jackie Robinson. Seeing Jackie

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Speaker 4: Robinson on that baseball field thrive allowed it really kind

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Speaker 4: of sparked the civil rights movement, right.

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Speaker 2: Jerry, your grandfather Sam, what did he tell you about

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Speaker 2: Jackie Robinson when you were growing up.

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Speaker 4: You know, as a kid, we all knew about Jackie

842
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Speaker 4: Robinson the player. The one thing my grandfather always stressed

843
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: was look at Jackie Robinson the person.

844
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Speaker 3: What he represented.

845
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Speaker 4: You know, it was not just on the field, but

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Speaker 4: off the field. You got to be a good person.

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Speaker 4: That's one thing my grandfather and my father stressed. Listen,

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Speaker 4: it'd be cool to be a baseball player. Of course,

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Speaker 4: you want to play baseball, but the most important thing

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Speaker 4: is to be a good man, be a good representative

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Speaker 4: of your family and Obviously, Jackie Robinson did that, and

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Speaker 4: he represented so many others and because he was successful

853
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Speaker 4: on and off the field, it allowed for so many

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Speaker 4: other players to come behind him. So, you know, having

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Speaker 4: Jackie Robinson Day and having his number retired, and I

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Speaker 4: remember Kenry for junior, you know, State, and we should

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Speaker 4: all we were forty two on that day, just giving

858
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 4: a little tribute to him, for a man who met

859
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 4: so much for so many people.

860
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: And Jerry, you just brought that up.

861
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: You know, all the player is going to be rocking

862
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: forty two and you had a great major league career.

863
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: But you know you're a broadcaster for the Dodgers now,

864
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: but you played for the Dodgers. Was it kind of

865
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: like sending chills up your spine when you put the

866
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: forty two jersey Dodgers on the front and forty two

867
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: on the back.

868
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 2: Was that kind of cool?

869
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 3: Absolutely? And I got a chance to play second base

870
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: one day.

871
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 4: I think it was either twelve or thirteen when I

872
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 4: was wearing that Dodger blue wearing forty two and playing

873
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 4: second base. And trust me, guys, it was not lost

874
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 4: on me. I was thinking about my grandfather and just

875
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 4: knowing the players that sacrificed so much. So one thing,

876
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 4: my grandfather, who was the ninth black player to play

877
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 4: in Major League Baseball, was the first black player to

878
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 4: play with Chicago White Sox. It wasn't lost on me

879
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 4: on how these guys really had to kind of struggle

880
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 4: a little bit and grind. They had to play in

881
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 4: so many barnstorming games. They had to go play in Mexico,

882
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 4: in Cuba, Venezuela, other countries to kind of make sure

883
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 4: they provide for their family. So, you know, my grandfather

884
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 4: and other players had to do that, and you know,

885
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 4: they definitely had a whole lot tougher than we did.

886
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,479
Speaker 4: And we're so appreciative for the stuff they did because

887
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 4: they laid the groundwork for many players.

888
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: I would follow, Jerry, did any teammate of yours along

889
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: the way come to you and say, Jerry, tell me

890
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: about Jackie Robinson, educate me And were you able to

891
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: do that with certain teammates you had along the way.

892
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 4: You know what's amazing. I would you know, just being

893
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 4: around the clubhouse, Tim and Jeff, you guys know this.

894
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 4: We always appreciate, at least my generation appreciated the players

895
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 4: that are coming before us. When players found out that

896
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 4: my grandfather played in the Negro leagues. They were asking

897
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 4: me stories about him. And I remember when I first

898
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 4: met don Nukeom. I think I was a player with

899
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 4: the Padres at the time. He had spoke on that

900
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 4: day to us. I was on the Padres and you know,

901
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 4: the Dodger players are there, and he had spoke and

902
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 4: he started pointing to me and my brother Scott, and

903
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 4: he started telling the story where my grandfather, a vetteran

904
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 4: of the time, told Don Newcomb, who was a young

905
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 4: and upcoming star, that he was going to take him

906
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 4: deep and don Nukeomb, you know, one hundred miles an hour,

907
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 4: incredible afterte eighteen years old, He's going to challenge this

908
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 4: old man Sam Harrison with a fastball, and my grandfather

909
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: ended up taking him deep.

910
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: So him telling that story, the entire room.

911
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 4: Lit up because a couple of guys didn't know that

912
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 4: my grandfather played. Let himone played in the Negro leagues

913
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 4: and then eventually played in the Big League. So you know,

914
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 4: they would come and ask, well, what was what did

915
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 4: your grandfather say how the Negro league was, like?

916
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: What was Jackie Robinson? Like, what was Josh Gibbson.

917
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 4: I think I get more questions about Josh Gibson and

918
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 4: Satchel Paige than more about Jackie Robinson because Jackie Robinson's.

919
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: Story has really been told, but the.

920
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 4: Satchel Page Josh Gibson's story hasn't been told enough. I

921
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 4: think I used to get more questions about those two players,

922
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 4: Satchel and Josh Gibson.

923
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it begs what's your best Satchel Paige

924
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: story that you can share with us? Because you're right,

925
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: we have Jackie Robinson day. There's been great movies like

926
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: forty two that have been created to honor this great

927
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 1: man in his impact. But do you have a great

928
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: Satchel Paige story you want to share with us?

929
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 4: I got a couple, So I got one Satchel and

930
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 4: you know one Josh Gibson. Because of time, I'll try

931
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 4: to keep him brief. So Satchel Page obviously, Tim and Jeff,

932
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 4: you guys know now we're in a generation of pitch count, right, guys,

933
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 4: pitch at you know, one hundred pitches, they're done for

934
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 4: the week, right.

935
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 3: So Satchel Paige obviously, because he was the draw.

936
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 4: He was the Michael Jordan of his time in the

937
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 4: Negro leagues, especially during the barnstorming days. They would play

938
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 4: two or three games a day and then get on

939
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 4: a bus, travel four or five eight hours to the

940
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 4: next city, post up there, get something to eat, get

941
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 4: up the next day and play another game or two.

942
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 4: Satchel Paige would sometimes pitch four or five days that

943
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 4: whole week, okay, back to back to back days because

944
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 4: he was a draw so obviously he had an incredible fastball.

945
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 4: He had a lot of great pitches because in order

946
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 4: for him to pitch eighty two hundred pitches a night,

947
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 4: he had to make sure he mixed in matches pitching.

948
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 4: That's why he was such an artist on the mound,

949
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 4: because he couldn't go max effort every single day. And

950
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 4: that's why a lot of players back then say, even

951
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: the white players say that Satchel Paige was the greatest

952
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 4: pitcher ever because he had to pick up the baseball

953
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 4: four or five times a week and go out there

954
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 4: and manipulate the boss so he can go out there

955
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 4: and perform.

956
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: And now there's eleven year olds on Pitch Country crazy.

957
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 2: You're Josh Gibson's story.

958
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 4: Josh Gibson story, My grandfather just was signed to an

959
00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 4: Eager league team.

960
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 3: Double dudey Ratcliffe was the manager of that team. W Radicliff.

961
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 4: There's why they call him double dudey Ratcliffe because he

962
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 4: pitched and he also catched.

963
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: So my grandfather not in the same game, right, Well.

964
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 4: The first game, the first game of the doubleheader, he

965
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 4: would pitch. The second game of the double header.

966
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 3: He would catch.

967
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 4: So that's where the incredible incredible. So he he was

968
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 4: show hal tiny before shootiny right right. So Double dudey Ratcliffe,

969
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 4: you know, signed my grandfather. So my grandfather is playing

970
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 4: third base. Okay, my grandfather is an aggressive third baseman. Well,

971
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 4: what walks the three hole hitter by the name of

972
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 4: Josh Gibson. Okay, Josh Gibson turns to the third to

973
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 4: the third base line. He sees my grandfather even with

974
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 4: the bad Josh Gibson tells Double d d Ratcliffe, we got.

975
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 3: That young boy that he's in close to the grass.

976
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: He's gonna get killed.

977
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 4: So Double d Ratcliffe tells my my my grandfather, hey, take.

978
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 3: A couple of steps back. Takes a step couple such back.

979
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 3: My grandfather's an eighteen year old kid. Okay, he doesn't

980
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: know any better.

981
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 4: He's heard of Josh Gibson, but obviously this is the

982
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 4: first time playing against him. He takes one or two

983
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 4: steps back. Joshkinson turns the looks of my grandfather son,

984
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 4: you better get back, okay, takes another step. A couple

985
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 4: pitches later, he finally gets a pitch to hit. Josh

986
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 4: Gibson hits a rope right past my grandfather's ear. Before

987
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 4: my grandfather could put up the glove, it goes right

988
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 4: past his ear.

989
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 3: He said he didn't see it. He heard it. He

990
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: could feel it.

991
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 4: He said, if it was a foot to his left,

992
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 4: it would have squared him up right in the face.

993
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 5: So he learns that that day who the real Josh

994
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 5: Gibson was, and he made sure from there on out,

995
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 5: he made sure he was playing left field.

996
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: When he took Jerry, correct me if I'm wrong here.

997
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: Your dad was drafted by the team that your grandfather

998
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: played on. Was Is that kind of a cool moment

999
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 1: for your dad when he found out he was getting

1000
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: drafted by the White Sox, that he's playing on his

1001
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: dad's team that brought him into the league.

1002
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 4: Not only that, my grandfather was the scouts that signed

1003
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 4: my dad, and he was drafted my grandfather. My grandfather

1004
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 4: was a scout for many many years after his playing dates.

1005
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 4: He also coached in the mind leagues and in the

1006
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 4: big leagues. But as of scouts, my grandfather drafted and

1007
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 4: signed my dad. Now everybody goes, I know what your

1008
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 4: son goes. Listen, you guys, come see for yourself. He's

1009
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 4: going to Arizona State. He was going to go play

1010
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 4: there on a full ride. But come down and we

1011
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 4: have a couple of guys. You need to look at

1012
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 4: Lamar Johnson, who my grandfather also signed. Lamar Johnson played

1013
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 4: many many years in the big leagues and also my dad.

1014
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 4: So they came out and saw my dad play and perform,

1015
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 4: and they were able to take my dad in the

1016
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 4: third round. And my grandfather was the one there signing him.

1017
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 4: So obviously it was a good signing because he ended

1018
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 4: up playing years in the big leagues.

1019
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: Right. I don't think I could get Jeffrey signed to

1020
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 2: play baseball unfortunately, Jerry. As you know, you played in

1021
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: the infield, you played in the outfield.

1022
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: I think it's hard for you know, Dad's been a

1023
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: sports writer for almost fifty years.

1024
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of the game.

1025
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 1: But can you explain to everybody just how amazing of

1026
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,959
Speaker 1: an athlete Mookie Betts is to be doing what he's

1027
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: doing where he can play pretty much anywhere. It seems

1028
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: like in the field that's not easy.

1029
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 4: Listen, guys, Mookie Betts is probably the best athlete on

1030
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 4: the planet. Obviously, Shoi Otani incredible athlete. Those one hundred

1031
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 4: miles an hour on the mound credit great picture, can

1032
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 4: run epic power. Patrick Mahomes on the on the football

1033
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 4: field is second to none.

1034
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 3: Right now.

1035
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 4: There's a lot of great athletes, but Mookie Bets, Seriously,

1036
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 4: he could be a professional bowler.

1037
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 3: He could run point guard for the Los Angeles.

1038
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 4: Lakers right now, and he could be a slot receiver

1039
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 4: in the NFL. I am not kidding. He is special

1040
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 4: of an athlete. He was drafted by the Boston Red

1041
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 4: Sox as an infielder. Okay, he was gonna be a

1042
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 4: second base and but that's some guy nam Dustin Berjoy,

1043
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 4: who ended up be pretty good. So they asked MOOKI, hey,

1044
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 4: won't you go to the outfield. He makes himself not

1045
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 4: only an outfielder, he makes himself the best defensive right

1046
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 4: fielder that i've ever seen. I never got a chance

1047
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 4: to see Erta Clemente. I heard Roberta Clemente, you're seeing

1048
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 4: footages was second to none. But I think he's on

1049
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 4: par with Rota Clemente defensively. Now you ask him, hey,

1050
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 4: can you go back and play second base?

1051
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,479
Speaker 3: I got you. Now.

1052
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 4: I got a chance to play golf with Mookie Betts

1053
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 4: a few months back.

1054
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 3: No warm up at all.

1055
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there on the drive reins me and James

1056
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 4: Loney getting ready to, you know, to tee off. Mooki's

1057
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 4: running the lake because he had a prior commitment, runs

1058
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 4: the lake.

1059
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 3: He meets U on the tea box.

1060
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 4: I hit my nice little two sixty five. Make sure

1061
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 4: I'm on the fairway. James, you know, is a good shape.

1062
00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 4: Mookie Bets hasn't swung a golf club. Okay, strike shit

1063
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 4: about three fifteen, three point thirty right down a minute.

1064
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 5: I'm like, are you kidding me? Literally, I wanted to

1065
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 5: throw my boss back. Okay, that's how talented he is.

1066
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 5: He could have done any sport and thrived. We're fortunate

1067
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 5: to have him in Dodger Blue, and he's lighting the

1068
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 5: world on fire right.

1069
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: Now with the bat Jerry Harrison Jr.

1070
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: Joining us, Thank you so much for your perspective on

1071
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson Day, the great stories hearing about your grandfather.

1072
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: It's so important. I recommend everybody check out if you

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Speaker 1: get a chance to go up to Cooperstown. They have

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Speaker 1: an incredible display when it comes to the history of

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Speaker 1: the Negro leagues. It is so informative, it's so beautiful

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Speaker 1: and so important to keep those memories alive, to remember

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Speaker 1: kind of how baseball started, and it really is special.

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Speaker 2: Jerry, I can't thank you enough for your time.

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Speaker 3: Really quick before I go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when I mentioned Tim, it's not lost on me

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Speaker 4: years ago. A lot of young people don't know this,

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Speaker 4: but Tim was a baller on the basketball for I

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Speaker 4: remember the first time first time I saw Tim in

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Speaker 4: the house in Baltimore, Cal Ripken was the one telling me, Bro,

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Speaker 4: this guy Tim lights it up from the art.

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Speaker 1: Did you believe Cal when he first said that when

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Speaker 1: looking at him.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I don't think Pow would light him right.

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Speaker 5: And then I've got I've got other players telling me,

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Speaker 5: and then I would say, you know, I saw him shoot.

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Speaker 3: I was like, lights out, Tim, lights out, Tim?

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Speaker 2: Right, Jerry, this is what I did. I got it

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Speaker 2: to Cal Junior on the low block. We won every

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Speaker 2: game he dominated. I got him the ball. That's all

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Speaker 2: I had to do. Amazing right, Well, thanks again, Jerry.

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Speaker 2: This has been an absolute pleasure having you with us.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you down the road. We'll see you soon.

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Speaker 3: Sounds good, guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Jerry Harrison Junior for joining the podcast. And

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Speaker 1: next week we've got Terry Francona going to be joining us.

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Speaker 1: To make sure to follow or subscribe wherever you listen.

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Speaker 1: Now to kind of put a bow on this whole

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Speaker 1: great conversation about Jackie Robinson, day and the Negro League.

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Speaker 1: Is there a player that you think needs to be

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Speaker 1: highlighted as well in a day to who we talked

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Speaker 1: about Satchel Paige and Jackie Robinson.

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Speaker 2: Who else? Well, Buck O'Neill is one of the great

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Speaker 2: players in the history of the Negro League. He's a

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer and he did as much as anyone

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Speaker 2: to promote the greatness of the Negro Leagues and Jackie Robinson.

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Speaker 2: So Buck once told me the story that in nineteen

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Speaker 2: forty five he was on an army base in the

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Speaker 2: Philippines when the news came down that branch Ricky had

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Speaker 2: signed Jackie Robinson to a organized baseball contract. So Buck

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Speaker 2: O'Neill goes up into the tower at the Army Base,

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Speaker 2: he gets on the microphone and he announces to everyone

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Speaker 2: branch Rickey has signed Jackie Robinson. And that night is

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Speaker 2: essentially when everything changed and when everything got better, because

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Speaker 2: two years later, Jackie Robinson was in the opening day

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Speaker 2: lineup for the Brooklyn Dodgers. So Buck O'Neill is huge

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Speaker 2: in all all things, including those with Jackie Robinson.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening and we appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next Tuesday for a brand new episode.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for being part of our family.