Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days
Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard
Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer
Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.
Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. Welcome back everyone. I'm excited
Speaker 1: this week because we're just gonna jump straight into elk.
Speaker 1: I know, I on the last podcast maybe talked about
Speaker 1: some other topics for this week, but I started looking
Speaker 1: at the schedule and thinking about elk, and now my
Speaker 1: mind is just consumed with elk. I got so many
Speaker 1: questions about elk hunting that I feel like, let's just
Speaker 1: dive in now, and that will give us the month
Speaker 1: of August to really cover some good calling tactics, some
Speaker 1: some tactics about wallow hunting, and other things that I
Speaker 1: think will be really important going into that September season. Also,
Speaker 1: I know, just you know, looking at some of the
Speaker 1: states that have sold out of elk tags so early
Speaker 1: this year, and there's gonna be a lot of people
Speaker 1: chasing elk this year, and I think that these tactics
Speaker 1: a lot of people probably I've got a ton of
Speaker 1: messages from people out of state, you know, first elk
Speaker 1: count this year. So I really think that these elk
Speaker 1: tactics will be good for new hunters, but also guys
Speaker 1: that have been cutting their teeth, struggling or hunting elk
Speaker 1: their whole life, and maybe just clean a few tips
Speaker 1: that you didn't think about. Elk cunning is my bread
Speaker 1: and butter. You know, I make my living as an
Speaker 1: elk guide, so when it comes time to talk about elk,
Speaker 1: I get pretty fired up about it. I get excited
Speaker 1: about it because I have so much experience pretty much
Speaker 1: from the first day elk season starts till the day
Speaker 1: it ends. I've been in the elk woods for the
Speaker 1: last fifteen years, so there's a lot of experience there
Speaker 1: that I get excited to share with everyone about. Let's
Speaker 1: go just straight into some of these questions here, because
Speaker 1: I got quite a few of them. Will run through
Speaker 1: and some will be answers, someone will be shorter answers,
Speaker 1: but I think that all of them will be good
Speaker 1: and as far as like maybe some stuff that I
Speaker 1: might not cover over the next series of Elk but
Speaker 1: also just have to kind of get your mind wrapped
Speaker 1: around the framework of things to think about. Setting up
Speaker 1: for this elk season. This first one comes from Kylie says, Hey,
Speaker 1: Emmy heard on the podcast that you're going to start
Speaker 1: an elk series and we'll have a Q and A
Speaker 1: about elk cunning. So looking forward to these. I've got
Speaker 1: a question for you while you elk hunt or guy,
Speaker 1: do you utilize for service trail as much or do
Speaker 1: you find yourself bush whacking more so? He says, I
Speaker 1: moved to Montana a couple of years ago, and I'm
Speaker 1: struggling just to find elk that aren't ten miles or
Speaker 1: more from the road. I do EA scouting and then
Speaker 1: ground truth a lot before season and feel like I'm
Speaker 1: not making any progress as to wear the elk are
Speaker 1: before the season. Any pointers that I might be overlooking
Speaker 1: would be greatly appreciated. Things. That's a great question, Kyle,
Speaker 1: and I think if I just think back of Okay,
Speaker 1: where am I finding elk the elk that I have
Speaker 1: gotten on, whether it's you know, just towing up just
Speaker 1: thinking of places where I hunt elk or places we've
Speaker 1: been successful, I would say ninety plus percent of them
Speaker 1: are just bush whacking off trail, off road. I think
Speaker 1: that that reason is because you know, you don't have
Speaker 1: as much traffic. You also can find you aren't necessarily
Speaker 1: picking spots based on where a good trail is, but
Speaker 1: you're picking spots based on where's the best habitat, And
Speaker 1: a lot of that best habitat just happens to be
Speaker 1: in places where there aren't trails or roads. Now that's
Speaker 1: not saying that I don't utilize those for service roads
Speaker 1: and trails constantly. Um it's a great way to access
Speaker 1: maybe get back into a spot and then bush whack
Speaker 1: from there. But while I'm hunting, very rarely will I
Speaker 1: be on a trail. The caveat to that would be
Speaker 1: in an area where there's like a very large number
Speaker 1: of logging roads, and those logging roads may be gated
Speaker 1: or not be able to drive, And those logging roads
Speaker 1: also create habitat in an area where there might not
Speaker 1: be better habitat. You know, by having that open logged area,
Speaker 1: that clear cut, maybe some thinning, it's gonna get some
Speaker 1: grass in there, and you're gonna get more elk type feed.
Speaker 1: So in that case, I would focus more actually on
Speaker 1: the roads than off the road. But for primarily what
Speaker 1: I'm looking for is that habitat I kind of feel
Speaker 1: like the reason you're finding those elk ten miles in
Speaker 1: may not just be a factor of um, you know,
Speaker 1: being so far, but actually, you know, maybe it's probably
Speaker 1: a trailhead that goes up a canyon and you start
Speaker 1: to get towards that head basin. You're probably scouting it
Speaker 1: in the summertime, and those elk are going to be
Speaker 1: up higher in those basins because that's where they summer,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be you know, the better habitat for
Speaker 1: that time of year. Now, if you just kind of
Speaker 1: focus on your scouting and planning, okay, looking for that habitat,
Speaker 1: not necessarily looking for access, and then finding a way
Speaker 1: in there, that's gonna be the key to actually finding
Speaker 1: more elk. This next question comes from David. He says,
Speaker 1: is there time of day you prefer stocking bull elk
Speaker 1: during September archery season? What tactics you use to get
Speaker 1: into position to shoot redding elk? So if I'm gonna stock,
Speaker 1: I prefer to stock in the middle of the day.
Speaker 1: What what happens is, especially in September, you know, the
Speaker 1: bulls are going to kind of take their cows and
Speaker 1: they're gonna be making a lot of ruckets doing a
Speaker 1: lot of chasing. In the morning, they're gonna be feeding,
Speaker 1: like probably before sun up, the cows will be feeding,
Speaker 1: the bulls will be feeding or whatever, just pushing around.
Speaker 1: Then the sun starts coming up, then the bulls are
Speaker 1: essentially just gonna try to push those cows to a
Speaker 1: betting area. So they're gonna push those cows into the timber.
Speaker 1: If you can keep track of them, either by sound
Speaker 1: or by sight. That's the best we talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: betting animals and stocking bedded animals. The difference with elk
Speaker 1: is you've got probably a large harem or a large group.
Speaker 1: Now stock betted elk can be advantageous to you, especially
Speaker 1: if you're trying to get like a herd bull out,
Speaker 1: because it might be a way to single out that
Speaker 1: bowl that he may not come to the calls as easily,
Speaker 1: So it can be a great tactic. But I generally
Speaker 1: wait till the middle of the day and then stalk
Speaker 1: in from there. You know, your hope is that the
Speaker 1: bull is embedded in the middle of the group, which
Speaker 1: they can be, but oftentimes they might be bedded more
Speaker 1: up at the top of the hill or um somewhere there.
Speaker 1: They'll also be getting up a lot and checking their cows.
Speaker 1: So it might be something where you can stalk into
Speaker 1: a bedded group of elk. I've done this so many times,
Speaker 1: where I stalk into a group of bedded elk and
Speaker 1: then kind of set an ambush where I sit and
Speaker 1: wait and do some cow calling to try to get
Speaker 1: that bowl, just like very light cow calling, not real aggressive,
Speaker 1: just letting him know like, oh, hey, I'm over here,
Speaker 1: maybe throwing out like an estrus wine type call, that
Speaker 1: kind of high low type call, and then just waiting
Speaker 1: and maybe he'll get up and check you as a
Speaker 1: cow if he thinks that you might be a cow
Speaker 1: over there, but where you're just out of sight of
Speaker 1: the other cows and they aren't going to blow it,
Speaker 1: but you know, close enough to that bowl where he
Speaker 1: might come to you if you don't have an actual
Speaker 1: stock to the bowl. Now, second part of this question
Speaker 1: tactics that I used to get into position to shoot
Speaker 1: redding elk. You know, I I love to call elk.
Speaker 1: I think that that's one of the cool things about
Speaker 1: September and hunting him archery season. I actually believe that
Speaker 1: archery hunting elk is oftentimes, at least in many of
Speaker 1: the places that I hunt public land general areas, the
Speaker 1: archery season is the best time to kill a bowl um.
Speaker 1: As you get into the later rifle seasons, they can
Speaker 1: get really tough and it's the best time to kill
Speaker 1: a bull because you have that option to call. Now,
Speaker 1: the thing about calling is it does take a lot
Speaker 1: of understanding elk vocalizations. How to call. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of skills that you have to master. If you don't
Speaker 1: have those skills right away, stocking is going to be
Speaker 1: your best bet. But you can also do things where
Speaker 1: you position yourself to kind of give yourself a little
Speaker 1: bit of an advantage. So we talked about l betting,
Speaker 1: watching the elk bed, getting in, slipping in stocking that
Speaker 1: might work, or you could call him off where they
Speaker 1: kind of go check a cow. That's a great tactic.
Speaker 1: Another tactic is if you really understand that area you've done,
Speaker 1: you're scouting. Maybe you've hunted this area before and you know, okay,
Speaker 1: they go to this betting area and you know that
Speaker 1: there's wallows nearby, and we're going to talk about this later,
Speaker 1: but setting up on one of those wallows midday, because
Speaker 1: what happens sometimes is or like first thing in the morning,
Speaker 1: when that bull pushes his cows to that betting area,
Speaker 1: he might just go over to that wallow. And so
Speaker 1: that's another great tactic to ambush and elk, just kind
Speaker 1: of intersecting their behavior, understanding what they're doing, and then
Speaker 1: finding that weak chink in the armor and exposing it
Speaker 1: and becoming successful. Alright, this next question, I I got
Speaker 1: a lot of questions in this vein, So if this
Speaker 1: isn't your question, but I did, I mean I cataloged
Speaker 1: a lot of questions that had to do with this
Speaker 1: particular topic, and the topic is cowell. This message comes
Speaker 1: from Ben, and I actually think that the Q and
Speaker 1: A is a perfect time to talk about this. So
Speaker 1: he says, everyone's focused on calling in a bull, but
Speaker 1: what about those who drew cow taggs? What are the
Speaker 1: calling strategies, behaviors, techniques, et cetera. And if there's a
Speaker 1: difference between hunting the two, I think hunting cow elk
Speaker 1: is something that especially if it's your first elk hunt,
Speaker 1: it's a great tag to have. Elk are the most
Speaker 1: delicious animal on the mountain and cow elk are the
Speaker 1: most delicious of the delicious animals. I myself have a
Speaker 1: cow tag in my pocket. This year, I harvested a cow.
Speaker 1: Last year. I've guided many cow huns and been on
Speaker 1: many cow huns. It's a lot of fun for a
Speaker 1: lot of reasons. The first reason is the way elk are.
Speaker 1: The cow to bowl ratio is way higher than most
Speaker 1: buck too, dough ratios or whatever. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: cow elk in an area that has fewer bulls, so
Speaker 1: that right there just actually increases your chances of success.
Speaker 1: It also means that pretty much all cows are created equal.
Speaker 1: I personally strive to take the smallest cow I can find,
Speaker 1: often looking for you know, last year's year old's, or
Speaker 1: maybe calves, just because you know, if I got a
Speaker 1: bull tag too, then I can have prime meat. But
Speaker 1: pretty much every cow is delicious that I've had at least.
Speaker 1: So the nice thing is whatever cow you run into
Speaker 1: is probably the cow you're gonna take. Where If you're
Speaker 1: bull hunting, some areas have to be brow time bulls.
Speaker 1: You know, you might run into a spike. You might
Speaker 1: be in an area that has better bulls, so you're
Speaker 1: looking for a certain bull when you have a cow tag,
Speaker 1: it's like all you have to do is find one cow,
Speaker 1: get it within range, and make a good shot. So
Speaker 1: in that sense, it's easier, but it doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: cow hunting is always easy, And there are some strategies
Speaker 1: that I kind of use when we're focusing purely on
Speaker 1: looking for cows. Now, a lot of cow hunting is
Speaker 1: just going to be finding those concentrations of cows, and
Speaker 1: that might be different than where the concentrations of bulls
Speaker 1: are depending on the time of year, you know, they
Speaker 1: might be a little bit low relevation. It depends on
Speaker 1: the type of you you're using too. You'll see, like
Speaker 1: even hugging some of those more agricultural areas, using Onyx
Speaker 1: maps to kind of hunt boundaries. I think that that's
Speaker 1: a great way to focus on finding cows because they'll
Speaker 1: be grouped up. A lot of the cow hunts that
Speaker 1: I've done or have had success, you know, I'll be
Speaker 1: using my onyx maps maybe in a new area, saying okay, well,
Speaker 1: there's clearly excess number of elk here. That's probably why
Speaker 1: they're issuing cow tags. Probably a lot of the problem
Speaker 1: is those cows getting in da aggriculture so maybe just
Speaker 1: hunting some of those fringes where it's the mountains above
Speaker 1: some of that more agricultural stuff, there's definitely going to
Speaker 1: be cows, and that it's a little bit easier to
Speaker 1: get in, get out, pack it out, and maybe just
Speaker 1: kind of start honing in on some cows. Now you
Speaker 1: can also go is as steep and as deep as
Speaker 1: you want. I mean last year I actually guided a
Speaker 1: cow hunt during we ended up shooting his cow way
Speaker 1: back in the back country, and it was just the
Speaker 1: same place that we shoot a lot of bulls throughout
Speaker 1: the season. But there are a few strategies that I
Speaker 1: will focus on. You know, people always ask can you
Speaker 1: call cows? And and the answer is yes, you can.
Speaker 1: Cows are very vocal, especially to each other. So if
Speaker 1: you're hunting in some thicker timber even throughout the year,
Speaker 1: whether it's in later November or in September, you know,
Speaker 1: throwing out some of those cow calls. I like to
Speaker 1: make a cow call that I call like the lead cow,
Speaker 1: and then just some of that cow talk even while
Speaker 1: I'm walking, maybe I'm walking an area that I think
Speaker 1: might be a betting area, I'll just kind of like
Speaker 1: throw out cow calls here and there, and I like
Speaker 1: to do it as like a call in a response,
Speaker 1: So I'm like you, I'm just doing this with my
Speaker 1: voice right now, so I don't have any calls on
Speaker 1: me but you and then kind of like let it sit.
Speaker 1: And sometimes what you'll do is you'll incite other cows
Speaker 1: in that area to talk back, and they might be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's going on, Um is the group moving? Let's communicate
Speaker 1: where's everyone at? And that's a great way to hone
Speaker 1: in on maybe cows hunting in an area that would
Speaker 1: be more difficult to hunt bulls in where it might
Speaker 1: be a fingeradge that they're bedded on in the middle
Speaker 1: of day, and you can kind of get them to
Speaker 1: sound off. Then you can kind of start working your
Speaker 1: way and sneak in and really you just have to
Speaker 1: find that one cow that's closest that offers you a shot.
Speaker 1: So in that sense it's a little bit easier. But
Speaker 1: there's also those tactics that you can use. Another thing
Speaker 1: that I find works really well. You know, I've had success,
Speaker 1: just like say you find a herd of elk, you know,
Speaker 1: where you're bugling bulls, you can get those those bulls
Speaker 1: to come in. But how do you, maybe, say, archery season,
Speaker 1: get a cow to come into a call. And most
Speaker 1: of the time what happens is maybe you've watched the
Speaker 1: herds move or split up, and there's those leftover cows.
Speaker 1: What I try to do is like try to intersect them,
Speaker 1: cut them off, and then throw out like a cow call,
Speaker 1: and what they think is, oh, the herd went this way,
Speaker 1: and that draws those cows to you. I've had a
Speaker 1: lot of success doing that during archery seasons, where you know,
Speaker 1: the herd starts moving, I do kind of especially it's
Speaker 1: a larger herd, maybe there's always a few stragglers back behind.
Speaker 1: You just hustle and get into position where those other
Speaker 1: cows kind of went over or in that area, and
Speaker 1: then you start calling. They're gonna be using scent a lot,
Speaker 1: but they'll also you know, some of the younger cows
Speaker 1: will use that sound. They'll be like, oh, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: they went this way, and you can pull those cows
Speaker 1: away and then, like I mentioned in for the bull hunting,
Speaker 1: you know, getting into a group of cows that's bedded,
Speaker 1: throwing out some calls you know, never hurts because I
Speaker 1: have had cows just walk into that as well. I
Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of people headed out there
Speaker 1: with cow tags that it's an awesome tag to have.
Speaker 1: It's some of the best meat I know. I've said it.
Speaker 1: It's a broken record, but it's a really fun hunt.
Speaker 1: And I'm actually looking forward to my cow tag as well.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things. It's funny, you know, you've
Speaker 1: got bull tags and you do this and that. One
Speaker 1: of these tags that I'm really excited about was a
Speaker 1: cow tag that I drew in an area that I
Speaker 1: just really like to hunt. And it's a great way
Speaker 1: as well. If you're maybe listening to this and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't have a cow tag or whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, think about getting if you hunt areas that
Speaker 1: are premium limb did entry areas or not hunt them,
Speaker 1: but have been applying So in Nevada where I hunt,
Speaker 1: or just a lot of places where I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: going and hunting elk, but it might take ten twenty
Speaker 1: years to draw whatever. Look at getting cow tags in
Speaker 1: those areas. Man, what you learned while hunting those cows.
Speaker 1: You're out there, you're hunting, you get to go home
Speaker 1: with me, it's not just a scouting trip for the future.
Speaker 1: You're hunting, but what you're also doing is learning in areas.
Speaker 1: So when you draw that bowl tag, when you have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to hunt to bull there, you've already hunted
Speaker 1: in that unit. You already have some kind of knowledge
Speaker 1: on that area. And that is just huge. And that's
Speaker 1: something that I really like to do is try to
Speaker 1: get a cow tag where I may not have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to hunt a lot, but there's a lot of elk.
Speaker 1: It's a great tag to have, and I can kind
Speaker 1: of dual purpose into scouting for the future when I
Speaker 1: might draw that tag later. Alright, this next question comes
Speaker 1: from Steve. He says Steve from Wisconsin. He says, Hey,
Speaker 1: remmy question for your podcast. Do you have any tech
Speaker 1: use for postseason elk rut. I was lucky enough to
Speaker 1: draw first season Colorado rifle Hunt. Looking forward to hearing
Speaker 1: from you. I think that the post rut now I
Speaker 1: should have looked up. I'm not exactly sure what the
Speaker 1: Colorado first season dates are this year. You know, I
Speaker 1: did a lot of guiding in New Mexico during the
Speaker 1: beginning of October season or in the most a lot
Speaker 1: of the montana and idhos stuff is that like mid
Speaker 1: October and October, so it's kind of like this low season.
Speaker 1: It's after the rut, but before really any migration, maybe
Speaker 1: before any winter movement, and it can be it can
Speaker 1: be difficult time to hunt, but it can also be
Speaker 1: a really good time to hunt because you're just gonna
Speaker 1: focus in on the behaviors that elk are doing at
Speaker 1: that time. So after the rut, here's what generally happens.
Speaker 1: The bulls separate from the cows. Now it depends what
Speaker 1: kind of bull you're looking for, because if you're just
Speaker 1: looking for any bull, you can still at this time
Speaker 1: focus on the cows. A lot of those younger bull
Speaker 1: some of the smaller four points five points, what we
Speaker 1: might call raghorn bulls, might be hanging out with those
Speaker 1: groups of cows still, and that is very likely. I've
Speaker 1: even heard of bugling in these groups all the way
Speaker 1: through October. So you may not see those big herd
Speaker 1: bulls in there, but you still might. It really depends
Speaker 1: on the rut in the year, but you can kind
Speaker 1: of count on smaller bulls still being with those big
Speaker 1: groups of cows. So that's one way to focus your attention. Now.
Speaker 1: The other way is to understand what a lot of
Speaker 1: the bulls will do is they'll pull away from the cows.
Speaker 1: They've rutted. Now they're going to recuperate, And what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do is they're gonna go find an isolated pocket
Speaker 1: where they've got food, water and cover, and they really
Speaker 1: aren't getting messed with. They've just had enough. They're they're tired,
Speaker 1: their war out and they're gonna they're gonna draw away
Speaker 1: and almost kind of like, you know, not really go
Speaker 1: far for a lot of things. They're conserving their energy
Speaker 1: and they're building it back up for the winter. This
Speaker 1: is probably honestly one of the best times the target
Speaker 1: big bulls. Now they can be harder to find, but
Speaker 1: when you do find them, it's a lot easier getting
Speaker 1: in on them. They're more predictable, they're almost patternable, um
Speaker 1: and they just they aren't moving as much. So it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you could find a big bull during the rut,
Speaker 1: but he might be running his cows all over the mountain,
Speaker 1: might go from this group to that group because he
Speaker 1: got kicked out. You may never see that elk again.
Speaker 1: If you can locate a bull in this post rep period,
Speaker 1: they're generally by themselves, so they're easy to stock. They're
Speaker 1: kind of following this feedbed pattern. So what I like
Speaker 1: to do is I like to kind of glass those
Speaker 1: fringes in, like maybe pockets and thick timber that have
Speaker 1: an opening or a meadow around it. They're near where
Speaker 1: high concentrations were during the September season. If you had
Speaker 1: time to scout, you know, glassing a lot of those pockets.
Speaker 1: Then you say, you see the elk in the morning,
Speaker 1: mornings and evenings generally where they're gonna come out, then
Speaker 1: you'll get up in there and wait for the evening.
Speaker 1: He'll probably either come out in the evening or kind
Speaker 1: of hunt in that same area, you know, like the
Speaker 1: next day because they're gonna be within that same area.
Speaker 1: That kind of call it like they just go off
Speaker 1: and kind of sulk and recuperate and they're on their
Speaker 1: little post rut retreat. But it's a great time to
Speaker 1: sneak in on elk and it can be a great time,
Speaker 1: you know, that October season. If there's an archery season
Speaker 1: that goes into October, most people are all fired up
Speaker 1: about hunting the rut. But man, you can get some
Speaker 1: great elk hunting and some bigger bulls just by focusing
Speaker 1: in on that October season where those bigger bulls have
Speaker 1: pulled off on their own. They're very vulnerable that time.
Speaker 1: It's probably the most vulnerable time of year for a
Speaker 1: big bull elk would be that later season. So you've
Speaker 1: got two options. You can go hunt those solitary bulls,
Speaker 1: or you can kind of still go find those. The
Speaker 1: bigger the herd of cows the better, that just more
Speaker 1: likely to have a legal bull or two with them.
Speaker 1: So a couple of options for you there. Next question
Speaker 1: comes from Ryle. He says, I've got a question for you.
Speaker 1: I love calling elk and bugling in bulls, but the
Speaker 1: problem I'm having is getting bigger bull is to come
Speaker 1: in instead of just sounding off bugles back and forth.
Speaker 1: Is there anything you do or recommend to get them
Speaker 1: to come in? Thanks? Uh. He loves the podcasts. Been
Speaker 1: putting these tips and tactics test and been nothing but money.
Speaker 1: I love to hear that. I love to hear that
Speaker 1: these tactics are working. You know, you do something long
Speaker 1: enough and it works for you. But it's really awesome
Speaker 1: that you can translate that and starts working for other
Speaker 1: people as well. Here's what I'll say is, you know
Speaker 1: everybody always says the challenges calling in a herd bull.
Speaker 1: Why is the challenge calling in a herd bull? Well,
Speaker 1: because that bowl runs the herd, and in nature, it's
Speaker 1: not that he thinks you're a guy calling to him.
Speaker 1: The way that elk work is he has the elk,
Speaker 1: he has the cows, and so he you call and
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I've got the cows, and you're just
Speaker 1: a satellite bull over here that doesn't have cows, and
Speaker 1: so he doesn't need to leave those cows to come
Speaker 1: to you. In nature, another bull would come and challenge him.
Speaker 1: And that's what you need to do. Last year, if
Speaker 1: you haven't listen him, go back, because I think that
Speaker 1: the dogging elk one is probably the best option of
Speaker 1: getting a bull like that to come into a call.
Speaker 1: And that's because that's what's going to happen in nature.
Speaker 1: A bull is gonna go in, he's gonna bugle. That
Speaker 1: bull is probably gonna round up his cows and start
Speaker 1: going off. Then the satellite bulls are just gonna kind
Speaker 1: of try to pull cows out in confusion, and then
Speaker 1: at some point that bull is going to not have
Speaker 1: the upper hand and he's gonna say, Okay, now I
Speaker 1: have to fight. He has to fight constantly, so he's
Speaker 1: going to conserve his energy and only take battles that
Speaker 1: he really thinks. Another thing that I a tactic that
Speaker 1: I use a lot to draw in those bigger bulls
Speaker 1: is either a decoy and then a combination of the
Speaker 1: way that I call the more aggressive the bugle, the
Speaker 1: better you hear this thing like, oh, elker, call shy.
Speaker 1: I swear hunters are the ones that are call shy.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's such thing as bugling too bigger
Speaker 1: to mean. If you're trying to get a big bull
Speaker 1: to come in, he needs to know that it's going
Speaker 1: to be like, now is the time to do it.
Speaker 1: And so when I'm calling to that herd bull, I
Speaker 1: am not acting like a smaller bull. I think there's
Speaker 1: this kind of misconception people think, oh, I'm going to
Speaker 1: sound like a smaller bull so he knows that he
Speaker 1: can beat me up and scare me off, and that
Speaker 1: may work in some scenarios. There's times who have done
Speaker 1: like spike bugles and they just kind of like all
Speaker 1: they have to do is show themselves to a spike
Speaker 1: and they'll run it off. But you know, like actually
Speaker 1: directly challenging that herd bull is the best way to
Speaker 1: get him to commit. And then you know, obviously if
Speaker 1: it's archery season, it's legal whatever. You know, maybe throwing
Speaker 1: in a decoy or a spike type decoy because they
Speaker 1: will try to just show themselves, run those those smaller
Speaker 1: bulls off because they know they aren't going to fight.
Speaker 1: Those are also great tactics. So dogging them, calling like
Speaker 1: a big dog and maybe having some kind of visual
Speaker 1: aid that might make them want to come in or
Speaker 1: all great tactics. And then just like I mentioned earlier
Speaker 1: that hunting in the later October, later in the season,
Speaker 1: just isolating bowls and stalking big bulls is a great
Speaker 1: way to try to get a bull that may not
Speaker 1: be so easy to call in. So it just depends
Speaker 1: on your hunting style as well. All right, Brandon Naski says,
Speaker 1: I hear you talk about muzzle brakes a lot. Could
Speaker 1: you go into the pros and cons of them and
Speaker 1: what to look for when purchasing one. Thanks and keep
Speaker 1: up great work. Yeah, that's a great question. I know,
Speaker 1: when I talk about picking rifles, whether it's on the
Speaker 1: podcast or just on social media or just anything, I
Speaker 1: kind of like to say, you know, get my favorite
Speaker 1: caliber is a three short mag. And if if anybody
Speaker 1: asked me what gun do I get, I always say
Speaker 1: a three short mag. I generally go with a lightweight gun.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm shooting a Socco fin light. You know,
Speaker 1: the tiakas a great like. There's a lot of great
Speaker 1: lightweight rifles you know out there. Get a lightweight gun.
Speaker 1: I go with three short mag and I say, put
Speaker 1: a muzzle brake on it. The reason I like, I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of the muzzle brake is twofold. It
Speaker 1: reduces the recoil. But by reducing that recoil, you actually
Speaker 1: shoot better now. The reason you shoot better is there's
Speaker 1: less kick, obviously, but also you have like better follow through,
Speaker 1: you can watch your impacts, you can be more consistent.
Speaker 1: There's less jump in the rifle, and because of that,
Speaker 1: over time, you're just gonna get better shooting habits and
Speaker 1: you're gonna shoot better now. The downside the con to
Speaker 1: a muzzle break is it's loud. So what it does
Speaker 1: is it takes that energy of that bullet going out
Speaker 1: the barrel. Instead of just sending it all straight out
Speaker 1: the barrel, it kind of pushes it to the side,
Speaker 1: And by pushing it to the side, it reduces that jump,
Speaker 1: that felt kick that kicks straight back because it disperses
Speaker 1: that energy as the bullet exits the barrel, and a
Speaker 1: lot of that energy exits the barrel, So there's always
Speaker 1: a reaction for every action. So the bullets going forward,
Speaker 1: the gun kicks back, but you know that muzzle break
Speaker 1: disperses that, so it changes the way that that felt
Speaker 1: kick goes back. Now as it does that, it's throwing
Speaker 1: that sound to the sides, and it is very, very
Speaker 1: very loud and can be very very damaging to your hearing.
Speaker 1: I have got in the habit of you might see
Speaker 1: videos or whatever. I always have ear plugs around my
Speaker 1: neck or in my pocket like handy, and I always
Speaker 1: put the ear plugs in before I shoot, or especially
Speaker 1: when I'm guiding, I put the ear plugs in before
Speaker 1: someone else shoots. They call him muzzle brakes guide killers
Speaker 1: for a reason, not because like it literally kills your ears.
Speaker 1: There are instances where I've had muzzle brakes go off
Speaker 1: near me or have shot head to shoot without ear plugs.
Speaker 1: It's not as bad if you're the shooter, but it's
Speaker 1: really bad if you're off to the side. I mean
Speaker 1: I have had instances where I didn't have an ear
Speaker 1: plug in a muzzle break went off near me and
Speaker 1: literally my vision just kind of like went black because
Speaker 1: of the concussion and the sound that it made. It
Speaker 1: just like it's very disorienting. That's the real bad part
Speaker 1: of it. That is why I am such a huge
Speaker 1: proponent of suppressors now. Suppressor is essentially a muzzle break
Speaker 1: that takes a lot of the sound or the crack
Speaker 1: out of the rifle. It doesn't make it silent, and
Speaker 1: calls them silencers. I don't know why in this country
Speaker 1: we have such a problem with them. You know, they
Speaker 1: are a pain in the butt to get, but if
Speaker 1: you have the option, it takes a little bit. And
Speaker 1: know how, there's a lot of options out there in
Speaker 1: most states now allow you to hunt with suppressors. They
Speaker 1: are incredible because it's a muzzle break, so it takes
Speaker 1: out a lot of the felt recoil, but also takes
Speaker 1: out that extra sound that is going to destroy your hearing.
Speaker 1: Now you should probably still shoot a suppressor with ear
Speaker 1: plugs and if you you know, the decibels are technically
Speaker 1: high enough to damage your hearing in most cases, but
Speaker 1: by taking the crack out of that rifle, it's like
Speaker 1: the best of every world. The downside to that is
Speaker 1: if throws a little bit of balance issue in your guns.
Speaker 1: So you can either cut your barrels down a little
Speaker 1: bit and have that added suppressor, or there's some that
Speaker 1: have like quick releases on them, or you actually just
Speaker 1: have a muzzle break on your your firearm and then
Speaker 1: it's got kind of like a quick release that attaches
Speaker 1: to that on the suppressor. So there's a lot of
Speaker 1: options out there now, and I think that there's a
Speaker 1: lot more information out there now on suppressors and getting them.
Speaker 1: You can you can go online and get these trust
Speaker 1: things for like a hundred bucks that just their forms
Speaker 1: you fill out and you bring that in, you get
Speaker 1: some fingerprint I D cards, and it takes about a
Speaker 1: year to get. So if you're thinking about getting a
Speaker 1: muzzle break, maybe think about getting a suppressor and a
Speaker 1: muzzle breaker or whatever. Those are just some good options,
Speaker 1: but I suggest having some form of recoil reduction on
Speaker 1: your rifle, especially you guys out there getting your kids started.
Speaker 1: I just see, you know, I've guided thousands of people,
Speaker 1: and I see a lot of people develop, especially guys
Speaker 1: that were just giving guns that were too big for
Speaker 1: them as kids, you know, develop these really bad shooting habits,
Speaker 1: anticipating rifle, flinching, that kind of stuff, and it's really
Speaker 1: heart like. It doesn't matter how tough you are, it's
Speaker 1: just a mental thing and it's really really hard to break.
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, I look at some of
Speaker 1: the other places I've hunted around the world, and they're
Speaker 1: very small calibers and suppressors are the norm, and very
Speaker 1: few people have these bad habits that a lot of
Speaker 1: American hunters get because we start shooting giant three wind
Speaker 1: mags when we're twelve years old. And uh, I think
Speaker 1: that it's just really good to kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: use those recoil reductions and then yeah, I mean, make
Speaker 1: sure you have a good gunsmith put that on. Anytime
Speaker 1: you're having something done with your gun that can affect accuracy,
Speaker 1: you know, make sure it's somebody that's reputable and knows
Speaker 1: what they're doing. The type of muzzle brake I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's all different kinds. I don't necessarily know that one
Speaker 1: is better than the other. I've never had one that
Speaker 1: I just really didn't like. I've have probably a couple
Speaker 1: of dozen of them, and they're all kind of different.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a great question, all right, Cody says, Hey, Ramy,
Speaker 1: can't thank you enough for the information education you provide
Speaker 1: all of us. I've learned a ton. I have a
Speaker 1: question for you on upcoming out podcasts. I didn't draw
Speaker 1: a tag in New Mexico, my home state, so Buddy
Speaker 1: and myself are going over the counter in southern Colorado.
Speaker 1: Do you have any tips or tricks for finding elk
Speaker 1: and what I'm sure will be some packed units? Thanks? Again,
Speaker 1: that's a great question, because a lot of the hunts
Speaker 1: that I do myself are in what I would also
Speaker 1: consider packed units, areas that you can just get a
Speaker 1: tag and and go. I would say, like, my plan
Speaker 1: is to always get away from hunters, but that doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily always mean go the furthest into the back country.
Speaker 1: So what that generally means is find a place that
Speaker 1: other people are ignoring. You might get there and there
Speaker 1: might be twenty cars at one trailhead, and you know that, Okay,
Speaker 1: once I get up this trail, that's the only place
Speaker 1: to hunt up there. I would probably avoid that. But
Speaker 1: also there's probably gonna be thousands of vehicles driving the
Speaker 1: road roads. So what you're trying to do is pinpoint
Speaker 1: spots that are far enough off where guys that are
Speaker 1: driving the roads can't see it or won't hunt it.
Speaker 1: And then places that maybe aren't necessarily that iconic back
Speaker 1: country that already has a trailhead that's attracting other people.
Speaker 1: I mentioned it earlier already in the Q and A.
Speaker 1: But finding those like spots that you gotta bush whack
Speaker 1: into that take a little bit extra energy to either
Speaker 1: get in or get out, and pinpointing those spots. Now obviously,
Speaker 1: like I love to the first place, I'm gonna look
Speaker 1: as those back country areas, but sometimes those type of
Speaker 1: places actually get hunted a lot, and that may not
Speaker 1: be the best spot for you. And also, you know,
Speaker 1: stay away from the roads where people are just gonna
Speaker 1: there's a large majority of the people that will have
Speaker 1: those tags that will never kill an elk, and they're
Speaker 1: just gonna keep driving the roads and maybe point zero
Speaker 1: one percent will shoot one, but they're just cruising those
Speaker 1: roads looking from those roads, so you're just trying to
Speaker 1: find that place that other people aren't. Another thing I
Speaker 1: like to hunt in really heavily hunted areas is places
Speaker 1: that I call a hole where if I kill something,
Speaker 1: I have to carry the elk uphill back out. That
Speaker 1: really deters a lot of people from hunting that. So
Speaker 1: if you can find those holes, those pockets, or even
Speaker 1: just getting further and deeper into the back country is
Speaker 1: a great way, just anywhere you can get away from people. Now,
Speaker 1: the other option is if you know that area well enough.
Speaker 1: Now this might not be particularly for Cody's instance, but
Speaker 1: if you hunt an area a lot, understanding the escape
Speaker 1: routes and like where elk like to travel, and then
Speaker 1: using pressure to your advantage. There's been many times where
Speaker 1: I get into a position knowing that, okay, the elk
Speaker 1: are gonna get bumped here, you know, mostly the opening
Speaker 1: days that I hunt our elk that have been pushed
Speaker 1: by someone else, because I know this is where the
Speaker 1: elk travel, this is where they're moving through. This is
Speaker 1: the highest likelihood of these elk coming through here, and
Speaker 1: then setting up and using other people to your advantage
Speaker 1: getting into those positions where you're you're kind of capitalizing
Speaker 1: on a known behavior that elk will be running around
Speaker 1: on this particular day, and that generally is an opening
Speaker 1: day in a general area. This next question comes from Thomas.
Speaker 1: He says, my question is what do you think are
Speaker 1: the must have elk calls? I have endurance and bow
Speaker 1: practice going, but no idea about calling. My guess is
Speaker 1: get some start practicing. Yeah. I think that elk calling
Speaker 1: is an art, and I also think that there's certain
Speaker 1: types of calls that I really like. I use the
Speaker 1: Rocky Mountain game calls, and I like bugle tube. I
Speaker 1: love like the kind of baseball bats that like whiffleball
Speaker 1: bat style bugle too. I just think, yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: pain to carry, it's a little bit bigger. It kind
Speaker 1: of clinks and clunks, but gang doesn't make some good
Speaker 1: elk sounds, and I just like to be able to
Speaker 1: sound like an elk. I use like diaphragm or mouth calls.
Speaker 1: They're just they go in your mouth, You use your
Speaker 1: tongue and air pressure. They can be very difficult to master,
Speaker 1: but you can also get sounds that you cannot get
Speaker 1: with other calls, and I think that's the best way
Speaker 1: to bugle, you know, maybe just starting out. Get some
Speaker 1: of those and practice find ones that you know they're
Speaker 1: they're kind of marked in like beginner to advance, get
Speaker 1: some of the beginner ones and just start making some
Speaker 1: tones on them. The best time to practice out calling,
Speaker 1: I think, is just when you're driving around in the
Speaker 1: car on the way whatever. Then you don't have people
Speaker 1: in your house like freaking out at you. It's like
Speaker 1: when you're driving alone getting your car. You can you
Speaker 1: can download some ELK sounds onto your phone, you know,
Speaker 1: whether it's like some YouTube stuff or whatever. I do
Speaker 1: this all the time, and then you just try to
Speaker 1: match the sound that's coming through speakers. Something calls, then
Speaker 1: you call back and you just mimic those sounds. And
Speaker 1: this is something that I still do constantly, Like it's
Speaker 1: it's just the best way to understand how to use
Speaker 1: the call and how to start making ELK sounds. Probably
Speaker 1: some of the better beginner calls, I would say, are
Speaker 1: just open read calls where you kind of use your
Speaker 1: teeth to slide over and makes cow sounds and you
Speaker 1: can make that you sound, or like you can make
Speaker 1: all kinds of estrus calls with it or just cow taw.
Speaker 1: Those are great calls. Even like bite calls where you
Speaker 1: just kind of bite down and let off and blow
Speaker 1: those are those are great. It should be in your arsenal.
Speaker 1: There are some push button calls, and I know they
Speaker 1: get a lot of flak, but I've used them throughout
Speaker 1: the years, and I mean I used to for for
Speaker 1: many years while guiding, especially when they first came out.
Speaker 1: Always had There's one premost Hoochie Mama that was probably
Speaker 1: my least favorite. There's like a Carlton call. I think
Speaker 1: it's like the button call or something like that. They
Speaker 1: have some weird names on them. But those button calls,
Speaker 1: I don't think they are the answer to elk calling,
Speaker 1: but it's okay to have, Like I would have it
Speaker 1: in my pocket so I could like use a mouth
Speaker 1: call or use whatever and call and then hit that
Speaker 1: other call and have different sounds. Making different sounds is
Speaker 1: key to sound like multiple elks. So maybe looking into
Speaker 1: something like that, but I think you should definitely be
Speaker 1: working on using a diaphragm call, learning that bugle, listening
Speaker 1: to elk sounds, trying to mimic those sounds, and then
Speaker 1: having some other cow calls handy as well. And then
Speaker 1: if you can't do that diaphragm call or it's not
Speaker 1: working there other the primos, it's got like this blue
Speaker 1: thing that snaps over the top. I mean, there's there's
Speaker 1: a few bugles out there, but I think the best
Speaker 1: is just learning to use those those diaphragm elk calls.
Speaker 1: And it's gonna take some practice. So get him now,
Speaker 1: start practicing and start you know, listening to elk sounds,
Speaker 1: and we'll cover some elk calling tactics here shortly. This
Speaker 1: question says it's from Matthew, and he says, I plan
Speaker 1: on hunting an area wilderness area for elk during the
Speaker 1: rut about nine thousand feet. There's meadows on the north
Speaker 1: facing slopes, a bunch of little mountain lakes creeks nearby.
Speaker 1: It looks really good, but it is eight miles in.
Speaker 1: If we don't find elk after one day or two,
Speaker 1: when is it time to call it quits? Try another area.
Speaker 1: How long do you spend without glassing in elk or
Speaker 1: hearing a bugle before giving up on an area. That's
Speaker 1: a good question. It really depends on the time of year.
Speaker 1: You know, when you've invested as much time is that
Speaker 1: like you've probably packed your camping and you're saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back here and this is where I'm hunting.
Speaker 1: And you get back there and you don't hear anything
Speaker 1: or don't see anything. What do you do? Me? Personally,
Speaker 1: if I'm not hearing or seeing ELK, I'm going somewhere
Speaker 1: else within a day or two. And part of that
Speaker 1: is because if they're there, I I feel like I
Speaker 1: have the skills that I would find them. I would
Speaker 1: either see them or hear them, especially if it's like
Speaker 1: peak rut. Now, if they just aren't making a lot
Speaker 1: like elk everywhere aren't making a lot of noise, it's
Speaker 1: super hot whatever, you might just have to start also
Speaker 1: kind of hitting some wallows and some other things and
Speaker 1: looking for fresh sign that ELK are there, and you
Speaker 1: could probably still stick it out. Me personally, I kind
Speaker 1: of don't like to burn a lot of time on areas,
Speaker 1: whether it's ELK dey or whatever. Like I like to
Speaker 1: go look. If I don't see what I'm looking for,
Speaker 1: go somewhere else. Like I'm finding I'm trying to find ELK.
Speaker 1: That quote unquote want to play like elk that are responsive,
Speaker 1: elk that are doing their thing, because it's just gonna
Speaker 1: help me increase my success. So if you aren't seeing
Speaker 1: elk in that area, it's not saying that they aren't there,
Speaker 1: but maybe they just don't want to place. You might
Speaker 1: want to have to check the next base and over,
Speaker 1: you know, be very mobile and start really trying to
Speaker 1: figure out where those elk are. I know it's a
Speaker 1: huge time investment to get somewhere back there. Now I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna see the exact opposite of that. If you
Speaker 1: know there's elk in the area, you have like maybe
Speaker 1: you've scouted, you've got pictures of elk in the area, whatever,
Speaker 1: you know they're there, and you don't want to go
Speaker 1: somewhere else. Yeah, you could probably stick it out and
Speaker 1: you might get those days where they're you know, you
Speaker 1: figure it out, figure out where they are, or maybe
Speaker 1: they just aren't popping out the particular day you're there.
Speaker 1: But for me, I think that if I'm not seeing them,
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing a lot of them, or there's just
Speaker 1: not what I'm looking for, maybe elk knot being relactive. Whatever,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go until I find elk that are
Speaker 1: doing behaviors that I want to exploit. So that for me,
Speaker 1: I love the bugle elk. If I go on a ridge,
Speaker 1: I know there's elk here and no elk or bugling,
Speaker 1: I'm probably not going to spend a lot of time there.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go until I find elk that want
Speaker 1: to bugle. And that's the way that I like to hunt.
Speaker 1: But everybody's different. You know, maybe you're the guy that
Speaker 1: likes to spot stock them, so you know you hear
Speaker 1: out bugling everywhere, but you aren't seeing any elk come
Speaker 1: out where you can kind of pattern and make a play.
Speaker 1: Then you're gonna go to a spot where you can
Speaker 1: find elk that you can see and watch and and
Speaker 1: do a stock. So I think it just depends on
Speaker 1: how you like to hunt. But I don't spend a
Speaker 1: lot of time if I'm not seeing or hearing what
Speaker 1: I want. All right, This last question is I have
Speaker 1: very little appetite after long days hunting, especially when I'm
Speaker 1: hunting alone. I obviously know I need to get some
Speaker 1: energy in, but it's a fight. Suggestions as Jeff from Idaho,
Speaker 1: that's a great question, and I don't know if everybody
Speaker 1: deals with that, but that's something that I definitely deal
Speaker 1: with as well. You know, like the first day I
Speaker 1: might load up, eat whatever, and then I start hunting
Speaker 1: and I get back there and I start getting after
Speaker 1: it and I just am not hungry, and you really
Speaker 1: do have to keep your energy up on these back
Speaker 1: country hunts, on any hunt. Really, one thing that I've
Speaker 1: found and this just is kind of like for me personally,
Speaker 1: and I probably across the board with a lot of hunters.
Speaker 1: Don't know if this is your particular situation, but you know,
Speaker 1: just finding things that you really enjoy to eat. And
Speaker 1: also I've said this before, but you know, going into
Speaker 1: the back country is not the time to start your diet.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know what it is, but I've
Speaker 1: seen it have like so many friends I've hunted with
Speaker 1: this that or the other. Thing, Like they eat a
Speaker 1: certain way at home, then they decide to go in
Speaker 1: a back country packing trip and they buy every natural
Speaker 1: food bar possible. Not that good food isn't great, but
Speaker 1: if it's not appetizing, not appeasing, and doesn't sound good,
Speaker 1: you aren't going to eat it, you know. So like
Speaker 1: there's a couple of things, Like I tend to have
Speaker 1: a sweet tooth, and so it's like I try to
Speaker 1: pick a few snacks if I can. If it's not
Speaker 1: super hot, I take a Snickers Bar with me. It's like,
Speaker 1: if I'm not hungry, I feel like I always feel
Speaker 1: like eating a Snicker's Bar. And that's just knowing my
Speaker 1: body and knowing they're like okay, and then that kick
Speaker 1: starts my metabolism and gets me okay, now I can
Speaker 1: eat a little bit more. There's there's been so many
Speaker 1: times where I'm in the back country, day whatever, and
Speaker 1: I can't even finish my mountain house meal that has
Speaker 1: something calories, So, you know, finding another option is to
Speaker 1: find foods that are really calorie dense and adding like
Speaker 1: little additives to stuff that you are eating. So I'll
Speaker 1: take in little packs of coconut oil and drop that
Speaker 1: in my dehydrated meal, you know, just to boost up
Speaker 1: the amount of calories I'm taking in. Not all calories
Speaker 1: are created equal. I understand that, but when you're having
Speaker 1: trouble just even eating anything, that is key is just
Speaker 1: getting enough calories, finding foods that you like to eat,
Speaker 1: you know, pack the foods that sound good to you
Speaker 1: when you aren't tired, when you aren't whatever, because you're
Speaker 1: going to be more likely to eat those and sample
Speaker 1: a few dehydrated meals. I just recently have been trying
Speaker 1: some of these Peak Fuel dehydrated meals. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: amazing because they they're a better type of dehydrated meal.
Speaker 1: You could just eat the stuff dry, and it's pretty good.
Speaker 1: I just sampled bison ranch mashed potatoes is like a
Speaker 1: Chad Mendez one. Holy crap, was that thing good? And
Speaker 1: then I had a Penny Elk post and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: and I looked at a lot of calories, highly suggest
Speaker 1: those ones. I'm gonna start, you know, using a lot
Speaker 1: more of those this year. There's still some Mountain House
Speaker 1: flavors that I really love, you know, but don't go
Speaker 1: like when you're going shopping for dehydrated meals and backpacking food,
Speaker 1: try not to buy the bargain stuff. Just buy stuff
Speaker 1: that you really like. I've learned that the hard way.
Speaker 1: I used to go get these like backpacker pantry ones
Speaker 1: and because they were cheap and on sale, and then
Speaker 1: I tasted them and they all tasted the same, and
Speaker 1: we're disgusting no offense to backpacker pantry. Those are the
Speaker 1: ones that I tasted at the time I didn't like,
Speaker 1: but I know I have friends that really love those ones.
Speaker 1: So try some stuff before you get out there. Know
Speaker 1: what you like and go with that. You know, there's
Speaker 1: certain things I like, the pastas and other things. They're
Speaker 1: just getting foods you like is key. Now, I would
Speaker 1: say the other number one thing on the list is
Speaker 1: staying hydrated. You know, if you aren't staying hydrated, it's
Speaker 1: really hard to keep that appetite up as well, like
Speaker 1: your body is probably running in deficiencies of other things.
Speaker 1: I've talked about it before. I always use this wilderness
Speaker 1: athlete hydrate recover drink mixes, keep your vitamin levels up,
Speaker 1: keep your metabolism going throughout the day, and then you
Speaker 1: kind of stimulate that appetite. I've had to learn that
Speaker 1: over the years because I've had that problem and my
Speaker 1: brother Jason exact opposite that dude will eat everything. He
Speaker 1: will eat seven days worth of food on the first day.
Speaker 1: Dude just he grazes. Man, he's always hungry. But you know,
Speaker 1: for those of you that have that struggling appetite, bring
Speaker 1: foods you like stay hydrated, use hydration packets, and then
Speaker 1: get some high calorie foods, and then also throwing a
Speaker 1: few of those like packout type bars, bars that have
Speaker 1: a lot of protein and aren't real big, but have
Speaker 1: enough calories where you can just get that extra boosta
Speaker 1: energy when you need. There's still something to be said
Speaker 1: for that. As much as I sometimes don't like all
Speaker 1: the cliff bar style bars out there, I try to
Speaker 1: sample them before I go find a few I like
Speaker 1: and know that, Okay, if I eat this, I've got
Speaker 1: what I need for now to keep keep those energy high.
Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for sending in so many questions, and
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure we'll get more as time progresses.
Speaker 1: You know, you can always reach out to me via
Speaker 1: social media at Remy Warrant on Instagram. We've also got
Speaker 1: the meat Eater website Remy at the meat eater dot com.
Speaker 1: There's plenty info out there, but I'm really excited to
Speaker 1: just this next month kind of jump into some of
Speaker 1: this elk hunting stuff. You know, even if you haven't
Speaker 1: been elk hunting or don't have any plans to elk hunt,
Speaker 1: listen to these because there's gonna come a time when
Speaker 1: you think lk hunting sounds good and you don't want
Speaker 1: to be trying to figure out how to start lk
Speaker 1: hunting the same year you have your tag, you know,
Speaker 1: start start listening to this stuff, maybe get some milk call,
Speaker 1: start practicing, even if it's five six years down the road. Man,
Speaker 1: if you have a little bit of these skills that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start talking about now, it's gonna be huge.
Speaker 1: And if you all kind of every year, I think
Speaker 1: you'll really enjoy some of the stuff that we're gonna
Speaker 1: jump into. So I I encourage you please share these
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Speaker 1: I know you guys do, and and you know, leave
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Speaker 1: just I just thank you guys so much for that
Speaker 1: kind of support. It's awesome. Yeah, So that's that until
Speaker 1: next week. Keep bugling. I don't know, one of these
Speaker 1: days I'm gonna land on a good, like solid send
Speaker 1: off and then I'll use it two times to be
Speaker 1: sick of it. But Bugle is strong, my friends, Bugle
Speaker 1: is strong,