1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news, Single Best Idea. Thank 2 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: you for the comments and Ed YARDNNY yesterday. Yesterday we 3 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: spent our entire Single Best Idea with Yardanny, who's looking 4 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: at the Roaring twenties and has some huge numbers. But 5 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: to I want to make this clear because people are like, OMG, 6 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: Dow fifty thousand, Dow sixty thousand, SPX eight thousand, and 7 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: Ed brought this up, but it got buried in the conversation. 8 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: If you extrapolate the trend line to get you to 9 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: those targets on a per year basis, it's not all 10 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: that much of a lift. I want to make clear 11 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: that in the Yard Denny Roaring twenties, he's looking at 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: seven or eight percent per year return. It may happen sooner, 13 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: may happen later, but these are not outlandish numbers across 14 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: the X axis. I think we'll leave it at that. 15 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: The Roaring twenties out there got a note from UBS today. 16 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: Will will effort at Ubs as they use the phrase 17 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: Roaring twenties. We used it with Sofia Drosis. She's the 18 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: point seven to two. This is Steve Cohen Shop and 19 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: she has the privilege. You're working with Dean Mackie. Sofia Drosis, 20 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: a nominal GDP and the Roaring twenties. 21 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: I don't know about Roaring twenties exactly, but I'll tell 22 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: you a little bit about my forecast. I'm looking for 23 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: nominal GDP five five and a half percent this year, 24 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: and that's pretty strong, and that it sort of entails 25 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: that corporate profits will remain strong. So we are seeing 26 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: the consumer remain strong, and I think maybe that there 27 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: are some misconceptions about the relative strength of the consumer, 28 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: maybe some concerns about the fact that goods prices are slowing, 29 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: and so maybe that's restraining some of the things we're 30 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: seeing in retail sales. But recently the consumers also spending 31 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: on services, and so when I look at consumption overall, 32 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: it remains at a trend pace, which again makes it 33 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 2: hard to see a recession. 34 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: Sophia Drosis there informed comments the optimism that she has. 35 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: She's again at point seven to two. We love to 36 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: get outside three zip codes. I'm as guilty of this 37 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: as anyone. Look far west to sixth Avenue. We all 38 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: want to do that. We want to go across this nation, 39 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: and it's really important when people fly in from the 40 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: left coast from San Francisco, and he is iconic. Mark 41 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: Lehmann is with JMP, not JPMGP Morgan, j MP, which 42 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: is the aggregate of San Francisco technology history. You go 43 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: back to Montgomery Securities, Thomas Weisel, Robertson Stevens, the rest 44 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: of it. Well, there's the technology that's always been in 45 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: San Francisco. He had wonderful comments his optimism on the 46 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: resurrection of San Francisco. But here's Mark Lehman of JMP 47 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: on the new tech age. 48 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: I think a lot has to do with Back then, 49 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: the hype was just show up, have a meeting, get 50 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: your capital. 51 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: Yep. 52 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: Now it's a much more discipline discussion. I think there's 53 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: way fewer of these kind of larks, if you will, 54 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: that are being created. And I think the big firms 55 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: are collaborating. So it's not just the venture capital it's 56 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: but the big install tech companies. We mentioned Google. Obviously 57 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: Microsoft's got a big stake, but I think the dynamism 58 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: of the investment is way different than it was years ago, 59 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: way different. 60 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: Mark Leman of JMP. As we go into Google's announcements 61 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: this afternoon, and on to August first, Amazon and other 62 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: worthies of this tech era that we're living in did 63 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: an experiment today. We tied Zach Cohen and David Gurr 64 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: at the same time. On the politics. I really want 65 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: to say, I've had all sorts of anecdotal evidence people 66 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: coming up at lunch or whatever thanking us for a 67 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: political coverage. We're sort of in a mailstream mirror where 68 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: we're just trying to survive and get through the day 69 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: and stay up with the zeitgeist. And the news flow 70 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: is reported by our wonderful news bureau led by Margaret Collins. 71 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: But I'm really taken by the comments of how we're 72 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: trying to stay away from the punditry and talk about 73 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: the more granularity. What a successful effort today was Zach 74 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: Cohen and David Gurrow. 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