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Speaker 2: My boyfriend insulted me right before proposing.

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Speaker 3: No, did he call you fat?

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Speaker 2: I twenty six female, have been with my boyfriend Tom

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Speaker 2: twenty nine, male, for six years. We have lived together

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Speaker 2: for two years and have two cats, but we're not engaged. Ooh,

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Speaker 2: two years, two cats, not engaged? What was he waiting for.

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Speaker 2: I have never pushed him to propose because I am

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Speaker 2: very comfortable in the life we have created and always

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Speaker 2: assumed when he was ready, then he will pop the question.

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Speaker 4: Oooh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Last week I was told by one of his friends

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Speaker 2: to expect something nice for our anniversary. She told me

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Speaker 2: I should get my hair and nails done just because

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Speaker 2: I should look nice for my surprise, and he took

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Speaker 2: her up on it right, which I rightly assumed was

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Speaker 2: a proposal. On the weekend, I went shopping with one

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Speaker 2: of my friends and bought a new outfit and got

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Speaker 2: my nails done ready for our weekend away. I was

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Speaker 2: telling her how I think I'm getting engaged and how

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Speaker 2: excited I was to spend the rest of my life

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Speaker 2: with Tom.

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Speaker 3: Tom. I'm thinking she's with Tom the cat.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking. Last night. Tom and I

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Speaker 2: go to leave for dinner from the hotel and I

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Speaker 2: get in my new outfit and spend hours getting ready.

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Speaker 2: When I come out and tell him I am ready,

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Speaker 2: he asks if I can actually look nice for once

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Speaker 2: because tonight was special.

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Speaker 5: Oh oh, and yeah, And that's when that's when I

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Speaker 5: closed the door and I go, okay, you can go.

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Speaker 2: I asked him what he meant, and he said to

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Speaker 2: me that I always underdress or dress like I'm going

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Speaker 2: to a club when we go to nice places, and

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Speaker 2: that I embarrass him.

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Speaker 3: He can't handle a batty.

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Speaker 2: We got in a fight and I ended up walking

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Speaker 2: out and not going to the dinner he had planned

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Speaker 2: to propose to me, and I went to my parents'

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Speaker 2: house because I was upset by the way. This comes

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Speaker 2: Okay storytime subreddit. I'm Savannah, I'm Riley, I'm Dakota, and

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Speaker 2: we're here to give some good advice and a little

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Speaker 2: goofy way. But we don't have all the answers. We

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Speaker 2: don't only tell you what we would do. Let us

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Speaker 2: know what you would do down the comments as a piece, says.

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Speaker 2: He texted me a few hours after I left and

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Speaker 2: asked when I was coming back because he had plans

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Speaker 2: and wanted to know if I picked up a nice

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Speaker 2: outfit for tonight. When I told him I wasn't coming back,

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Speaker 2: he got very angry and said that he was just

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Speaker 2: trying to help me because I would actually want to

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Speaker 2: look nice for today.

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Speaker 3: Oh my, after all that effort, I just.

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Speaker 2: Though I don't like that at all. I'd be so

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Speaker 2: freaking pissed. I'd be like, yeah, when your attitude changes,

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Speaker 2: I'll come back. When I told him I didn't appreciate

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Speaker 2: him saying that I don't look nice when I had

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Speaker 2: spent so long getting ready, he didn't understand and said

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Speaker 2: he wanted one night where I looked nice and put

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Speaker 2: effort in. Then you picked the outfit like, I'm not

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Speaker 2: your dress up toy. I'm gonna dress up the way

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Speaker 2: I feel comfortable and what I think looks nice. I

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Speaker 2: don't have you in mind. I ended up hanging up

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Speaker 2: on him and haven't spoken to him since yesterday, and

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Speaker 2: his friends have been messaging me asking how the proposal went,

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Speaker 2: and I haven't responded to anyone. He also hasn't reached

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Speaker 2: out since last night, and I don't know what's happening now.

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Speaker 2: My friends tell me I've done the right thing and

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Speaker 2: that we need to talk about where we go from here.

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Speaker 2: I love him so much, but I don't know that

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Speaker 2: I can look at him the same after finding out

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Speaker 2: how he truly feels about how I look. Have I

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Speaker 2: overreacted or have I eft up?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: There's an edit to add. We were having a staycation

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Speaker 2: thirty minutes from home to go to the Italian restaurant

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Speaker 2: where he asked me to be his girlfriend six years ago.

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Speaker 2: It's not a fancy or expensive restaurant, but it's our favorite.

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Speaker 2: He was wearing black jeans and a button up, short

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Speaker 2: sleeved shirt. I was wearing a floral knee length dress.

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Speaker 2: Dinner was booked for seven pm, and we were leaving

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Speaker 2: walk slash drinks beforehand.

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Speaker 3: Wait.

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Speaker 2: Wait, a floral, a floral down to your knees dress

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Speaker 2: that sounds that's pretty dressed up.

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Speaker 3: That's let me look this up. That doesn't sound bad

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Speaker 3: at all. That sounds pretty modest.

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Speaker 2: Not gonna lie, No, I mean he's wearing black jeans

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Speaker 2: or gleans ankle. You're gonna you're wearing jeans and you're

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Speaker 2: telling me to change out of a dress that was appropriate.

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Speaker 3: Floral ankle, no knee knee, your knees knee dress just

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Speaker 3: like a summer dress.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is, just like it's a color. It's a

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Speaker 4: sun dress. Doesn't say what color a yellow and orange.

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Speaker 2: I was wearing a floor.

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Speaker 4: These are so cute.

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Speaker 3: My girlfriend has one of these floral Oh you can

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Speaker 3: get one at riley Ridge dot com. Yeah, what are

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Speaker 3: you talking about? One of the most one of the

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Speaker 3: best things fashion has ever given us men is sun dresses.

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Speaker 2: Okay, because they're cute and it makes people look really

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Speaker 2: cute and hot. The dress may not be fancy or

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Speaker 2: dressed up for most people, but it's the nicest dressed

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Speaker 2: I I now own and is dressed up for my style.

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Speaker 2: There is additional information from op Op says, Hi, sorry,

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize so many people would want to know

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Speaker 2: what I was wearing. I don't have a photo of

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Speaker 2: me in the dress, but I bought and was wearing this,

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Speaker 2: which I thought was beautiful. Can we see that?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Uh, yes we can. He's getting the ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: Uh wait, no, you just click on it?

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Speaker 3: Well I can't, I think, man, do you need help?

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Speaker 4: Because we have the Sometimes you can't click on those

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Speaker 4: links and you can pull it up in the Uh

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Speaker 4: do you.

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Speaker 3: Help, my friend?

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Speaker 4: Do you need my brain? My brain is moving slow,

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Speaker 4: but I can, I can, I can get it.

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Speaker 3: But he has something else pulled up but he won't,

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Speaker 3: but he can't. Uh did I shave my legs for this?

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Speaker 3: If you know? You know, you know, Yeah, this is

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Speaker 3: really weird. Once we see this freaking dress, we will

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Speaker 3: have a way better understanding that this man is wild

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Speaker 3: or not. I'm if it's a floral knee length dress,

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Speaker 3: it's probably a nice little going out to dress with.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly what I thought.

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Speaker 3: And he doesn't like it's because you're because you're that's nice.

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Speaker 2: It's not. Yeah, it's not like super it's a very

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Speaker 2: casual dress.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm showing my tats off too much.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm really you got cleave? Yeah, Cleve.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, been working out?

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Speaker 2: Is that what happens when guys say the boobs?

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Speaker 3: Yes, they do get big cleave girls. Girls work out

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Speaker 3: to get butts. Guys work out to get boobs. That's

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Speaker 4: That's so that's true.

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Speaker 2: I work out to get I'm putting that down. I'm

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Speaker 2: putting that.

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Speaker 4: Putting that down as a real fact.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, friends in our chat, Type one, if you think

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Speaker 2: it's appropriate, Type two if you think it's inappropriate.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So what's the problem with this dress? She thinks

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Speaker 3: you don't go clubbing in that dress either, by the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I go clubbing in that dress. That is like

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Speaker 2: a like a nice little outing like a bar.

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Speaker 3: Let's go, let's go get like a picnic?

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Speaker 2: What is It's kind of like, uh, like floral dresses.

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Speaker 2: I think are for if you're going to like brunch

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Speaker 2: or if you're doing like a picnic or something.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I want to go.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a cute dress. I don't think that

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Speaker 2: it's inappropriate at all. There are some irrelevant comments. So

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Speaker 2: Pe responds to a comment about the dress not being

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Speaker 2: appropriate for dinner at an exclusive and expensive restaurant. Oh,

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Speaker 2: pe response, I see where you're coming from. But we

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Speaker 2: were going to our favorite little Italian restaurant where he

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Speaker 2: asked me to be his girlfriend. My fault, though I

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Speaker 2: didn't mention this in my post.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's even more fed up.

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Speaker 2: So it's not even like it's an expensive you know whatever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, It's not.

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Speaker 2: Like you're wearing like I went to a fancy restaurant

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Speaker 2: one time after the beach and I had all I

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Speaker 2: was literally in a bikini and had like shorts and

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Speaker 2: and went, this is not correct. And I walked out

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Speaker 2: and then the people were like, wait, do you want

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Speaker 2: They're like, we don't care.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's nice. Yeah, they'll let you know.

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Speaker 2: He was in the back end.

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Speaker 3: Here's my thing, though, I think this guy does not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm also thinking.

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Speaker 4: That, yeah, maybe he's just really nervous, you know, and

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Speaker 4: he's saying all of the worst possible things because he's

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Speaker 4: so nervous, and he's just like, yeah, you're make sure

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Speaker 4: you're not ugly like normal, and also don't dress like

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Speaker 3: Probably he's probably so blacked out from getting ready to

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Speaker 4: He didn't even see his it's just got flop sweat.

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Speaker 4: He's got no more liquid in his body. His brain's

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Speaker 4: running on dust.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't care if you're nervous, don't.

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Speaker 4: Don't say this, like, why would that make.

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Speaker 2: You insult me?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, my nervous.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you how ugly you are.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's the great way to get her. Just say yes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Comment to number one says, oh, and now I

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Speaker 2: see where he's coming from the venue and the importance

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Speaker 2: of the venue being an Italian restaurant where it was

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Speaker 2: where you became official at. Your dress is more like

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Speaker 2: a brunch beach dress instead of going out to dinner

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Speaker 2: at an Italian restaurant. Disagree, Oh Pea responds, I would

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Speaker 2: never wear this to brunch slash the beach, though. This

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Speaker 2: is literally the nicest dress I have ever bought, and

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Speaker 2: definitely one million times nicer than anything I have ever

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Speaker 2: worn to this restaurant. Commented Number two says, not overreacting.

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Speaker 2: Has he expressed these feelings before? Do you know what

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Speaker 2: he means by nice, I'm assuming you didn't get a

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Speaker 2: clubbing outfit, but I don't know. It's definitely something that

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Speaker 2: needs to be discussed and you should express rationally that

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Speaker 2: you did put an effort and feel hurt by what

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Speaker 2: he said, Oh pa response, Or I wore a knee

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Speaker 2: length white floral dress to go to dinner. He said

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Speaker 2: before he wished that my style was classier, which I

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Speaker 2: tried for this dinner, but never says specifically that he

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Speaker 2: doesn't like what I wear. And in that instance, I say, okay,

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Speaker 3: Is that right? Ladies, tell me if you're if I'm

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Speaker 4: Forty five forty five, forty five double it.

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Speaker 2: Is this kind of fight about other topics normal from

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Speaker 2: Opie response, This isn't normal for us when we were

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Speaker 4: Oh dude, now, okay. My theory now is that he's

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Speaker 4: And it's that's really really I thought we were having

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Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: That could be a tactic. Let me write that down too.

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Speaker 2: This guy's getting jokes. Opie on why she and Tom

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Speaker 3: Do they stay together? Do da didda? I ended up

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Speaker 3: speaking to wait wait, wait, do they stay together?

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Speaker 4: You think?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, Oh I feel like they would, Dakota.

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Speaker 4: No, wow, why what do you think?

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Speaker 3: I think? Yes, she mentioned they were hot headed before

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Speaker 3: away comment. He already has expectations in her head. She

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Speaker 3: I think that they'll come back, and if he can

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 3: If he can't do it, It's better to split a

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Speaker 3: frog hair three ways than to stay married to him

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Speaker 3: a frog hair three ways. Frogs don't have hair, exactly.

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Speaker 3: That's how rare it is. You had to find the

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Speaker 2: Wow, there's an update. Three days later. I ended up

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Speaker 2: and I went to sleep at my parents' house. Basically,

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Speaker 2: he apologized for everything he said, and that he was

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Speaker 2: I don't take that as an excuse he was sincere. Nope,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I'd be like, so, why did you think

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Speaker 2: that insulting me would help the situation? Let's let's deep

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Speaker 2: dive into that.

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Speaker 3: Uh computer, what was the word for word twins script

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Speaker 3: of what he actually should? Yeah? Do we know? He said,

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Speaker 3: just wor I'm a bit classier. He ain't called her

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Speaker 3: are twins. But what he did say, word for word,

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Speaker 3: Is that right? Can I see that?

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Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, I think I think he was saying. He's like,

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Speaker 3: He says slobbish. I'm not defending this guy. I just

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Speaker 2: He asked, if can you actually look nice for once

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Speaker 2: because tonight is special?

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Speaker 3: Okay? All right, all right, this is a bit of

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Speaker 3: nice for once?

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Speaker 2: Can you actually look nice for once because tonight's special?

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Speaker 3: Okay? I would have flipped, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I would have been like, oh.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay. So from that, I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: a little harder. If he's sincere, he can probably still

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Speaker 2: No, no, I wouldn't. I wouldn't take that as an apology.

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Speaker 2: I like, yeah, no, I told him this wasn't good enough.

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Speaker 2: And while I appreciated him apologizing, I didn't accept it,

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Speaker 2: and I felt I deserved better than that. Yeah, girl,

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Speaker 2: to paraphrase a very long conversation, the proposal is off

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Speaker 2: the table for now. Oh i'd also do that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that's that's probably a bit than like just

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Speaker 2: She was in a nice floral dress. He had jeans on.

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Speaker 4: She was in a nice floral dress.

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Speaker 3: Ye, jeans doesn't cut it? Were they even baggy?

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Speaker 4: Were they?

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Speaker 3: They were probably black jeans? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Jeans?

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Speaker 4: Or would it be Blaine?

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Speaker 2: When I worked at the Dinner theater there was a

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Speaker 2: any kind. No khakis, no like black whatever. Well, I

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Speaker 2: I would always wear a dress, I would wear tights

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Speaker 2: or something like. There's other options.

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Speaker 3: But how many nice compliments does he need to give

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Speaker 3: now in order to get rid of that one bad

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Speaker 2: Every single time I wear something, Tell me how cute

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Speaker 2: just come behind me and be like, he looks really

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Speaker 3: But how many quantity? What is the quantitative?

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Speaker 4: Not us? No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, we need there's realistically to code to

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Speaker 3: back me up here, there's realistically un number that he

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Speaker 2: I would say a number of compliments, say seven compliments,

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Speaker 2: but you have to spread them out.

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Speaker 3: Just seven, no, just seven.

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Speaker 2: No, Because what I'm saying is like, if you give

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Speaker 2: gonna give me another compliment, an hourly you're gonna give

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Speaker 2: me and then I'd be like, Okay, you're annoying. But

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Speaker 2: if you spread them out.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well timed. These compliments need to be well timed.

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Speaker 3: How many does he need to get out of this hole?

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Speaker 4: But I don't know, Like infinite dude. Also, I found

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Speaker 3: That's what he looked.

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Speaker 4: That's just what he wore, and he's like, babe, just

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Speaker 4: find something nice. That was the first image result for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is true. That is true, And he lives

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Speaker 2: That looks more north Ridge, Nordge.

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Speaker 3: Okay, guys, give me a number, give me a freaking

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Speaker 3: number of what it is. I think he needs to

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Speaker 3: do at least two sixty.

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Speaker 4: Like genuinely, like there there's no number, Like, there.

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Speaker 3: Isn't number, but if we're going to give it a number, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: saying there is a number for her to reach an engagement, like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: the engagement is going to happen, and I'm just warring

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Speaker 3: like that number time over time. Yeah, that's that's what

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Speaker 3: I've said.

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Speaker 4: You got to do a thousand compliments in a year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there we go.

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Speaker 4: It's like three a day, because it's like if you

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Speaker 4: know why your complimenting.

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Speaker 3: We need you need to be well timed. Time needs

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Speaker 3: to pass and they also need to Yeah, okay, thousand

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Speaker 3: and three per day.

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Speaker 2: I like that, but neither of us are prepared to

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Speaker 2: throw away a six year relationship over this. Four more contexts.

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Speaker 2: We met at a rave and do continue to go

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Speaker 2: to raves as it's something we enjoyed to do together,

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Speaker 2: which is why I normally dress like we're going clubbing.

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Speaker 2: I feel like posting on Reddit opened my eyes to

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Speaker 2: a side of our relationship that I had tried to

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Speaker 2: close off. Well, I do love him, there are things

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Speaker 2: that he's not happy with either. That we have both

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Speaker 2: Uh oh, I'm going to stay at my parents for

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Speaker 2: a while while he goes back to the house that

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Speaker 2: also a part trying to rebuild what we have. I

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Speaker 2: have shown him the Reddit post that I made, and

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Speaker 2: his mind and you didn't match it, and you don't

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Speaker 2: read his mind, and so then he insults you not

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Speaker 3: Does it really matter? Yeah, if you were to actually

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Speaker 3: still say no. I mean, I can't do that.

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Speaker 4: Don't don't. Don't give Angie a paper ring.

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Speaker 2: Don't don't.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to all.

441
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,400
Speaker 4: So okay, bleaned.

442
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 3: What I'm trying to say is, if someone is that

443
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,520
Speaker 3: important to ask, hey, will you marry me? It doesn't

444
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 3: matter what they look like exactly.

445
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 2: But he made it a big deal on what she

446
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 2: looked like, so.

447
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 3: There is a lot under the rug, a lot of dirt. Anyway, Sorry,

448
00:19:59,160 --> 00:19:59,880
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying.

449
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 2: We are both committed to each other and this relationship

450
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 2: wherever that leads, but with new expectations and reservations towards

451
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,120
Speaker 2: each other. There are things we both could have done

452
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,119
Speaker 2: differently which we acknowledge, and at this point, I'm just

453
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 2: trying to see what the future looks like for us,

454
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 2: if romantically or not. There are some relevant top comments.

455
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 2: Op was advised to look up sunk cost fallacy and

456
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,880
Speaker 2: have tough conversations with Tom on kids, religion, et cetera.

457
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 3: I knew it.

458
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is.

459
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 3: So sunk cost fallacy is this concept of let's say

460
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 3: you and I have been dating for five years, I

461
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 3: go and cheat on You're You're in your mind, You're like, oh,

462
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,919
Speaker 3: we've been to together for five years. I think we

463
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,360
Speaker 3: can still stay together because I've already put so much

464
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 3: time into it, when in return the investment is probably

465
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 3: going to be more damaging in the long term. But

466
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 3: it's like, I've already put so much effort into it,

467
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 3: I need.

468
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:48,479
Speaker 4: To stick with it.

469
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 2: That's how I feel.

470
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,959
Speaker 3: That's yeah, they're saying that we're not going to throw

471
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 3: away a six year relationship over this comment.

472
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like, well, how long has it been

473
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 2: like this? You know, you think it's good until like

474
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 2: it's a moment it's I don't think your bone is

475
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 2: down there, but I'm so deep already, can't stop now?

476
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's and then he did, and then he

477
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 3: I think you needed to adjust sing Now you can

478
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 3: make it bigger.

479
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 4: I see, he dug a big old hole.

480
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 3: Are you pressing nine?

481
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 4: And but yeah, I am, dang it.

482
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 3: I had another one for them.

483
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,640
Speaker 4: To the bones over there.

484
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'll fix that later. I'll fix that later.

485
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 4: Everybody ignore that.

486
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 3: No, that's a great that's a great illustration of what

487
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 3: the sun cost fallacy is.

488
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Opie responds, I just looked up sunk cost fallacy

489
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 2: and it has given me a lot to think about.

490
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 2: We'll definitely be having the hard conversation soon and we'll

491
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,719
Speaker 2: keep this in mind all My turn one says, do

492
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 2: you feel like he really gets what hurt you? Or

493
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 2: is he just sorry it went sideways? Boom that's what

494
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 2: I was thinking, Ohpi responds. Both. Maybe at the moment,

495
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: I'm honestly not sure which is more true. I know

496
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Speaker 2: that he's sorry for hurting me, but without speaking about

497
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 2: it more, I can't know of why. There's a second

498
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 2: update eight months later.

499
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 3: It's off they're done for they're having a baby.

500
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 2: I feel like they're done.

501
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 3: I agree type one if you think they're done, type

502
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 3: two if they worked it out. The thing though, that

503
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 3: gives me a slight of hope is that they used

504
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 3: to be hot headed. They've talked about the communication styles,

505
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 3: and they've worked already through that stuff. There is potential

506
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 3: of them sticking with it, but who does Who knows?

507
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 3: Six years sikes.

508
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, sometimes that's how it happens. It sucks. Update

509
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 2: two nearer the eight months later from the first update.

510
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 2: So I broke up with my boyfriend of six years

511
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 2: Tom after all this happened because you all gave me

512
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,719
Speaker 2: the reality check I needed to leave him after this

513
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: whole crap show unfolded.

514
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, do yeah, there we go? He was he

515
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 3: after he said that comment, When are you coming back?

516
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 3: When are we going to do this again?

517
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

518
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 3: What else was under this rugo? This hell?

519
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 2: We went no contact and it was the hardest thing

520
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: I've ever experienced. In figuring out how to live without

521
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,239
Speaker 2: being with him. Don't worry. I had the cats, and

522
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 2: I truly only made it through with a support of

523
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: friends and families showing up in ways that I never imagined.

524
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: I've never been so broken but so loved at the

525
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 2: same time. Three months post breakup, I got a call

526
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: from his mother that he had been taken to the

527
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: hospital by ambulance two days prior after having a seizure

528
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: at work, and he was asking for me.

529
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 4: No, is is this a lie? No?

530
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 3: If we're about to find.

531
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Speaker 2: Out, Oh, if someone if someone contacted me about my

532
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: ex that I haven't spoken to in three months? Why

533
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 2: in three months? But I'm putting in my situation. But

534
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: I'll say three months. Okay, someone contacted me was like,

535
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 2: oh it's I. I don't like you know, blah blah blah.

536
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 2: In the hospital, I'd be like, okay, and he was

537
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 2: asking for me, I'd be like, what does he want?

538
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 3: That's tricky. This is someone you live life with for

539
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 3: six months, six years he wants and and they're calling

540
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 3: for you, so love to how you feel about it?

541
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 6: Me?

542
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: I might go because if it's serious and they might die,

543
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: I might go. It depends on the ax, depends on

544
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 3: how it ended. I don't know. I don't know. What

545
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 3: did you do? You would say no, Dakota would probably I.

546
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: Would say what what what does he want?

547
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 3: What does he what does he need?

548
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say I use that work.

549
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 3: I'd probably say no to my ex. But if my

550
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 3: girlfriend was.

551
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: Help, give me my wife help, I would give me

552
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: my wife.

553
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: I need my wife. I let her know. I appreciated

554
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: the update, but I was living three hours away from

555
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 2: where they were and wouldn't be dropping everything to see

556
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: him right now, but that I hoped he was okay. Yeah,

557
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: like I wouldn't go. I wouldn't go across the freaking

558
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 2: country three hours.

559
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not across.

560
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying in my situation because he lives in Ohio.

561
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 3: Situation.

562
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 2: I know, but I'm putting it in my situation, like, oh,

563
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,719
Speaker 2: so you could connect to it, Yes, I have to

564
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: I see or else I don't get it. She then

565
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: told me he had a benign tumor in his frontal lobe,

566
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 2: which was discovered after he was brought in, which was

567
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: being removed in emergency surgery, and that I should be

568
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 2: there for him.

569
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 4: No, it's a tumor. Stay, Oh my god, Oh.

570
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 3: That's why it was his thinking straight da coda. How

571
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 3: many times have you read about tumors that it just

572
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: like absolutely Rex relationships.

573
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the one we're always like it was

574
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 4: it a tumor? Is that why he started acting like

575
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 4: a complete jerkquad Like?

576
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 3: I didn't think that because there was already some stuff

577
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: in the past, because usually tumors they changed like that

578
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: on a dime. And that's what I guess. I guess

579
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: so because they've already worked through things like this together.

580
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: And then he just said something out of the blue

581
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 3: like that.

582
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 4: I was at zero percent tumor.

583
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 3: That's crazy, that tumor out of nowhere from the top rope?

584
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 3: Do you understand why this is like crazy?

585
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 2: Because like toom can, like you know, push on parts

586
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 2: of your brain, then you don't act like yourself Exactly.

587
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 3: The amount of stories we've read what I don't know

588
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: the amount, but no, no, no, let me tell you.

589
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 3: Let me tell you the amount of story you haven't

590
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 3: been around here longer enough. The amount of stories we

591
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 3: read over the two and a half years of like

592
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 3: intensely reading recently, the amount of tumor stories there are

593
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: were like husbands are these great, awesome people and then

594
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 3: they get a tumor and they just become evil, super

595
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: mean and like just wicked. And it's like what happened

596
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: to him? Like this one guy wanted to like get

597
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 3: rid of all of his babies that he had and

598
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 3: it was because he had a tumor in his head

599
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 3: and it was the size of a golf ball and

600
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 3: he died two weeks after that.

601
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy what a tumor will do to you. Oh,

602
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 4: you got it.

603
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 3: You just got to expect the right source. So, frontal

604
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 3: lobe tumors frequently cause subtle to severe challenges and personality behavior.

605
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 3: Oh you're reading that, Say I.

606
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 4: Got it, I got it. Pulled up front load of

607
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 4: taper frequently all their personality behavior and executive functions. Because

608
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 4: this area of the brain regulates emotional control, restraint, andvation,

609
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 4: loved ones may notice sudden shifts like extreme apathy, total

610
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 4: lack of impulse control, or uncharacteristic aggression, which I think

611
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 4: I think telling your your partner of six years to

612
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 4: finally look good for ones is a form of aggression.

613
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And what was that other thing there was?

614
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 3: Like the third symptom you said, well, exactly, lack of impulse,

615
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: of impulse.

616
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

617
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: Now, Savannah, if you do get in a case where

618
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 3: someone's like I have a tomb in my head, ask

619
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 3: them for medical information. Don't just believe it out of

620
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 3: the head, out.

621
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 4: Of the way. Show me your medical records please. Yeah.

622
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: But this, this does change the whole aspect of the story.

623
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: I don't know.

624
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 2: I kind of agree with Stella, like it sucks for him,

625
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: but I'm not volunteering to suffer.

626
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 4: Nah, he's they're getting back together for sure. He's getting

627
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 4: that tumor, so.

628
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: That I'm not volunteering. Oh sorry, sorry to go to

629
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: what we're saying.

630
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 4: Sorry, I was just saying he's going to get that

631
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 4: thing plucked right out of his brain and they're getting

632
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 4: back together.

633
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

634
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 3: Now, this is a thing. It's the difference between a

635
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 3: girlfriend and a wife. Is do you stay together with this?

636
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 3: If your girlfriend, yeah, no, no worries. But if you're

637
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: like wife, you're already married. This is like in sickness

638
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 3: and in health. This is like one of those aspects.

639
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, this is like actually because my ex did

640
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: have like before we broke up, he had this bump

641
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 2: on his head, like on his forehead, and he like

642
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: did not know what it was.

643
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 4: That's not a brain tumor. Okay, it's not show up.

644
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 4: You don't see the brain tumor see it?

645
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, because I'm just like he had this like bomb,

646
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: I don't know.

647
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 4: What it was because you got your brain is in

648
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 4: your skull.

649
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: Yes I know, but like.

650
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 3: It doesn't pierce, it won't go through.

651
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 2: Okay, good, So then I can't blame that.

652
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 5: Good.

653
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: I was like, completely, this.

654
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 4: Is not a sign for you to get back together

655
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 4: with your e.

656
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to. That's why you guys.

657
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: Are like, no, it's not us, It's it's where your

658
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: mind goes. It's not us whatever.

659
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:43,479
Speaker 2: I told her.

660
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 5: No.

661
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: On December seventeenth, Tom turned up to my house. I

662
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: was living with my family and was refusing to leave

663
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: until I saw him. I went out the front and

664
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: he explained that he wasn't himself in July and that

665
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: the tumor had been affecting his decision making slash emotional regulation,

666
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: and to please just give him a chance. So we

667
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: went to dinner for that night, and I fell in

668
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: love with him all over again.

669
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: A Sven You're gonna catch a lot of flak on

670
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: this story if you don't see where this is coming from.

671
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: I'm promising you you will if you don't see where

672
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: the If you do not understand this angle this is

673
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: I'm being dead ass for real.

674
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm trying to.

675
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: But I just like, uh, Savannah right now, it's not

676
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: a tumor, Savannah. The tumor aspect does change people in

677
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: a very different way. I don't understand what you're feeling,

678
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: and it could be like a manipulation syntactic. But I

679
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 3: don't think this guy's coming from a manipulating thing. I mean,

680
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: tell me if I'm wrong. I would like to see

681
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,479
Speaker 3: medical records before I do it. Awesome mom gave him

682
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: that tumor. Well DNA, I tell him leave, yeah, fall

683
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 3: back in love? All right? Well, I wonder what happens.

684
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: This might not be forever.

685
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: He was exactly the man I had loved all these years,

686
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: and there was no hint of the man who belittled

687
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: me over a three hundred dollars dress while he wore

688
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: a forty dollars button up in jeans. But that one

689
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: night didn't change everything. For we still weren't together, but

690
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: now we weren't no contact. We started texting and then

691
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: calling almost daily, and it was like nothing had happened

692
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: when we spoke. He had kept asking me to come

693
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: home to him, and I said no every time. Almost

694
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: I went home to him on February sixth, under the

695
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: guise of getting the last of my things and to

696
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: say goodbye to the house I called home for so long.

697
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: But a few days being back home, I realized I

698
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: didn't want to leave, and then I wanted to try again.

699
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: I stayed there for the weekend, and on the eighth,

700
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: when I went to leave, I kissed him, and then.

701
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: Some and then an egg emoji.

702
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: We started dating again and everything has been wonderful. His

703
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: health is going well, and he is exactly the man

704
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: I knew before. He tells me I'm the most beautiful woman.

705
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: When I'm in my sweats on the couch, he packs

706
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: me lunch for work. He takes me out to dinner,

707
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: just to show the world how lucky he is. He's

708
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: the love of my life. And last week and I

709
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: officially moved back into our house. Last night, he took

710
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: me to her old favorite Italian restaurant and asked me

711
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: if I would marry him.

712
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: I said, yes, whoa, all right, all right, we are

713
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: back one, and Savannah hates this.

714
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: I just like don't like. Yes, I understand it's an excuse,

715
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: but that is just like.

716
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: It's it's it's it's not even an excuse.

717
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: It's like scientifically proven whatever.

718
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: It's not an excuse though. This is like, Savannah, I

719
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: needed to drive you to the airport. My leg got

720
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: chopped off and I couldn't both of them, and I

721
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: could not drive you to the airport peg leg. And

722
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: then over time I got a peg leg and then

723
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: I was able to drive you to the airport. This

724
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: is the same scenario.

725
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 4: They were just backed up at the peg leg factory.

726
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 4: I couldn't get my order in time. I just couldna

727
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 4: get it time for you go to the airport. Shouldn't

728
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 4: have done that. Oh dang.

729
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: Some people are still we are split in the comments

730
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: right now.

731
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: I'm trying to like for I just I feel like

732
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: I give people chances time after time after time after time,

733
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: and I understand that this is a medical thing and whatnot.

734
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to trust that person because I'd

735
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: be like, I don't know when this started happening, and

736
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: how long you felt this way and when this happened

737
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: and all that, and I couldn't get that out of

738
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: my mind. Me personally, I would have to I don't

739
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: think I.

740
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: Could do personally. You'd be like, when's the next tumor? Yeah, exactly.

741
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: I trusted I would be manipulated.

742
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: Savannah, Savannah, Okay, I will say this. I understand. I

743
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: I okay, Let's get to the story and I'll go

744
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: my soapbox. I'll go myself. All right, Hey, it's Smiley

745
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: Ry of the hear from Okay, story Tom. We're gonna

746
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: get back to these stories. But here's three minutes worth

747
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Speaker 3: of ads from our sponsors.

748
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: I was wearing dirty jeans and a sweater and he

749
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: was in his sweats and a T shirt.

750
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 4: It was perfect deans.

751
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: So basically, love is real and I'm getting married. Sorry

752
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: I read it. I know this probably isn't the update

753
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: you wanted, but we're happy now and hopefully this is

754
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: my last update. Love you all. There are some relevant comments.

755
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: Can Ope verified if Tom has a scar from the

756
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: brain tumor surgery and if the tumor was changing his personality?

757
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: Yep, there we go.

758
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: Op responds, He absolutely and I've seen the photos from

759
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: post off, but I never got confirmation about the personality changes.

760
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: I definitely don't think he's faking the tumor, but maybe

761
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: I'll ask to see the medical reports just for peace

762
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: of mind. I don't think he would have a problem

763
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: with showing me either, commented Number two says, Ope, it's

764
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: not a good sign that a bunch of random Reddit

765
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: folks can so easily sway you and make you do things.

766
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: You have no idea who these people are, and I'm

767
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 2: a little worried that you one broke up with your

768
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: boyfriend of six years because Internet people persuaded you to

769
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: do it, and two are seriously considering breaching his trust

770
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: because random Internet people are persuading you to do it.

771
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: There are a lot of basement dwellers who like drama.

772
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: If he has the scars, you can trust his story.

773
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: But more importantly, you need to fix this people pleasing tendency.

774
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm sensing it's not conducive to a happy life.

775
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: I disagree with this so much, and I'll get to that.

776
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: I have my thought about that.

777
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: Op responds, I hated reading this earlier, but honestly, you're

778
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: one hundred percent right.

779
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 4: You're falling. You're letting internet people persuade you.

780
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: Dude, you're doing it again.

781
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: I think the breakup was completely read it, but definitely

782
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: did persuade me. I believe in him and us, but

783
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 2: the crash out from random people shouldn't have happened yesterday.

784
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: There is some additional information.

785
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,959
Speaker 3: I have about that comment. So with that, I feel

786
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 3: like it was the right decision for her to leave

787
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 3: at that time, because one they were just boyfriend girlfriend

788
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: and two shouldn't know what she was up against. And now,

789
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: if she was a wife and she left, that would

790
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: be a different story. But she's in girlfriend territory. She's

791
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 3: not at that level of commitment. She's just I didn't

792
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: feel safe. I don't know what was happening. Looking at

793
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: all the things happening before, it felt right to give distance.

794
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: I think she was totally valid in that point of view.

795
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: To make it simple, he was mean to her. She said, no,

796
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: I won't tolerate this, and then we found out, oh

797
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: there's a tumor.

798
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 4: There's a little bit moment. Yeah, it turns out mean

799
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 4: because tumor on my frontal lobe.

800
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: Yes, I believe in him and us, but the crash

801
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: out from random people shouldn't have happened yesterday. Additional information

802
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: from op after reading comments about Tom's tumor and personality changes.

803
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: Ope response, I'm not updating the post right now, but

804
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: immediately I feel dumb and I need to talk to

805
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: him and his doctor asap. Update number three I ended

806
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: up flat out asking my fiance.

807
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: Time out before we get to this. Also, can we

808
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: remove Tom for a second? Oh okay, it just once again,

809
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 3: whenever it goes like from reading seemed to her it

810
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: looks a little off, if that makes sense. Okay, anyways,

811
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 3: So number one, I think the biggest thing you need

812
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: to do is to confirm with the medical records. Number two,

813
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 3: I think talking to a doctor that removed it, or

814
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 3: just like him, actually answering the symptoms of this is

815
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: like really big, because if you don't have that confirmation,

816
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: then he could be just playing it and spinning it.

817
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 3: I think that you and I both agree that that's

818
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 3: the first step we need to take. Yeah, and then

819
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 3: from there you can assess if you can stay back

820
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: together with him or not.

821
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 4: I disagree with that.

822
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 3: You don't think you need to talk to a doctor

823
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 3: and nah with him. He's got the scar on his skull.

824
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 3: Come on, So Savannah feels something in her gut where

825
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 3: she doesn't trust this. Am I sensing this correctly? I

826
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 3: just or no, yes, okay, So since she doesn't feel

827
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: safe about it, I mean, I'm not saying that you're

828
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: marrying him everything, but it would be good to confirm

829
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 3: with someone professionally so that it can ease your mind

830
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: before making another decision. That's what I think. If Savannah

831
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: feels this way.

832
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess I would understand. But if I was

833
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 4: that guy, I would never let her forget. Be like,

834
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 4: remember when I had a tumor and you sell this

835
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 4: scar on my head and you still were like, let

836
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 4: me see your medical records. You're such a little detective.

837
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: Well, this is a form of manipulation. And if there's

838
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: been patterns of it, I don't know if she's recognized

839
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: it or like identified them, but this could be a

840
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 3: form of manipulation though exactly.

841
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: So what happens when he just, you know, maybe it

842
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: wasn't a tumor or whatever, maybe he just you know,

843
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: got a scar doing something else whatever, and he's like, oh, yeah,

844
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: like it was just pressing on my brain and maybe

845
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: and then you ask the medical actors, they're like, oh, no,

846
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: that was just like something else that we did. It

847
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 2: has no that it wouldn't affect personality.

848
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: Or so he got his mom to lie to.

849
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: Probably, dude, some people are crazy. Some people are crazy.

850
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 3: Cash couldn't trust but verify the lawyer, princess. If you're

851
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: a lawyer, what are your what are your thoughts on this? Yeah,

852
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 3: I tumors can cause a complete, uncontrollable personality change. People

853
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: are brought into emergency room with this sign, and it's

854
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: almost certain some people do not get rid of this

855
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 3: tumor in time and they passed away also, so I

856
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 3: don't so I feel like this update three will give

857
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 3: us clarity on this if this was actually true or not.

858
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 3: Because about to put his uh put his money where

859
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: his mouth is.

860
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 4: There's I mean, it's it's just one of those things

861
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 4: that like I'd be like, damn, really, like if you

862
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 4: can't if you're at a place where you can't even

863
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 4: trust that he really had a tumor and that the scar, Like, dude,

864
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 4: I don't think you should be with a guy that

865
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: you can't even trust that, Like that's crazy.

866
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 3: She got at a place where she had to move

867
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: away from him three hours away and separate for a bit.

868
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he was like a ruthless a hole. Or

869
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 4: the day he was going to propose, and it was like, yeah,

870
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 4: wait no, this is I shouldn't accept this, this is crazy.

871
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 3: But for layers of trust, you need confirmation on what

872
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: if he's saying is right or manipulative.

873
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 4: I think if the behavior was worse, I would understand,

874
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 4: like if he like sold your car and like sold

875
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 4: your dog or something like, I'd be like, Okay, yeah,

876
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 4: I need to make sure that you're not actually just insane.

877
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 4: But like it was like he was really rude.

878
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: I still think you need a doctor's confirmation on this.

879
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 4: I see.

880
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: The thing is I would want a doctor's confirmation, but

881
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: then I would still think he is he with the

882
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: doctor on this? Are they just are you?

883
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 4: Are you a freak kidding me?

884
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I've been manipulated many times. It's like

885
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: past trauma and I just don't trust anyone. I feel

886
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: like everyone's freaking lying to me, and then I have

887
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: to be nice, and then I have to be a

888
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: bad guy.

889
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 3: I'm really sorry, Savannah, and make me cry. I'm sorry,

890
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 3: I really am. I do want to take a moment

891
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 3: and just say I'm really sorry that that happened to you,

892
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 3: and that you honestly deserve way better, and you were

893
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: a funny, beautiful and really glad that you're on the show,

894
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: and I'm glad that I could see you every day.

895
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 3: One of the things I absolutely love about Savannah is

896
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 3: that whenever I see her, she smiles at me in

897
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: the morning, and I don't want to talk or smile anyone,

898
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: but she puts that effort forth, and I'm like, and

899
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, and I thank you for that.

900
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: Say it louder, You're welcome. It just it didn't get

901
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 4: caught on the mic. You're welcome.

902
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: Thank you soa man, And I'm really sorry that that happened.

903
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 4: It's fine if it balances it out. I'm not that

904
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 4: sorry that that happened.

905
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: It's just you think someone's your true love and then

906
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: they're not, and then you're like, your mind goes places

907
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: and you don't know.

908
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 3: We should really put those guys have a special place

909
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: in hell.

910
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: Update three. I ended up flat out asking my fiance

911
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: to see his scans in all medical docs he has

912
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: under the guise of concern for our future and he

913
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: showed me everything. I asked him if he ever confirmed

914
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: any personality changes with his surgeon and doctor, and there

915
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: was no medical confirmation or notes. But he asked if

916
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: it was possible at one of his follow up appointments

917
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: and was told it was possible but not confirmable.

918
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, they would have had to brain scan him while

919
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 4: he had the tumor.

920
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: Interesting, so there wasn't like medical confirmation of him being

921
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: a bad person. Hmm, okay, okay, now I would. I

922
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: would really want to talk to a doctor at this point.

923
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's like literally no like you

924
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 4: can just be like, Okay, it was a tumor, that's

925
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 4: why the personality changed, and then you date him again,

926
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 4: and if it ever happens again, you can just go

927
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 4: all right, it wasn't a tumor.

928
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: Bye. Yeah. I don't know about getting married this soon.

929
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: I would. I would want to date for? How long

930
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 3: would you want to date for? It seemed like they've

931
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: been dating for like five months though, no, they.

932
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 4: Said like six years.

933
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 3: Well, they were dating for six years, break for three months,

934
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: back on for oh five months.

935
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how long they've been waited it dating again?

936
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 3: Well, they said an eight month, so earlier it was

937
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: like eight month update and then they were dating. They

938
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 3: were off for three months, you moved back, and then

939
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: it sounded like they were dating for like five months.

940
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say like six to a year honestly.

941
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: Like now, I'd be thinking he has another follow up

942
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: in two weeks, which I'll be going with him to

943
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: ask all the questions I now have, thank God, and

944
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: more importantly, what to look for in the future, to

945
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: tell if any tumor is returning, or generally anything to

946
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: look out for. I think I'm done with posting on

947
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 2: Reddit forever now, but don't quote me on that, because

948
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: I love outside opinions that aren't just mine. Slash his friends.

949
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 2: The brutal honesty helps and hurts at the same time.

950
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: We're still engaged, still in love, still cat parents, and

951
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: will probably be getting married eventually. Oh and there is

952
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: the cat tax at the end.

953
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 3: Amazing. Can we see if there is another updates? Because

954
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: I need to know what the doctors say to you.

955
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 3: A part of me would still be on the fence.

956
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 3: If there was no notes about his personality actually being changes,

957
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 3: it probably would have gotten to that point. And then

958
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: this is where you have to actually have that trust

959
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: in the relationship, so yikes.

960
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 4: True Dakota.

961
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: The changes would show activity change in the area progressively

962
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 3: through a scan, so there would be multiple ostom Ashley,

963
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 3: he's still in the train of don't get married, and

964
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: Ronnie Hue says man start over, Katie Politian. The doctors

965
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 3: could probably you where they found the tumor and give

966
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: you an educated guess as to what the tumor could

967
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: have affected. So it could have affected but then it's

968
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: like you still have to have faith that it was

969
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 3: the tumor not him. There's still that amount of trust

970
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: you have to have the relationship.

971
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 4: There is no further update. Most recent update with three

972
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 4: months ago.

973
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: Oh three months Yeah, I mean running cue. It is

974
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: hard because it's like you want to trust them, but

975
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 2: then you also like don't know, like you know, what

976
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: else have they been hiding or something like, it's just

977
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, at least like in my own experiences,

978
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: you just like, I don't know, you don't know what's

979
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: real and what's not, and then you think everything's your

980
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: fault and you're like, what do I do? Yeah, then

981
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: you just like I don't know, you don't know.

982
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean if your gut's telling you no,

983
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: don't do it because you don't have the hardcore evidence

984
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: of this was actually the tumor, because there was a tumor,

985
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: but nothing medically said it was. So that's up to you.

986
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: That's up to you. That is your journey, and that's

987
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: so that's what you gotta do. I confess something to

988
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 3: my fiance. He didn't handle it.

989
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, well who would.

990
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: I'm twenty five female and my fiance is twenty five mal.

991
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 3: We have been together for four years. My fiance is

992
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 3: religious and I'm not. Despite that, he and his family

993
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: has accepted me. At first, his mom was against me

994
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: and against dating itself, but eventually she accepted me and

995
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: we've had a close mother and daughter like bond. Our

996
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 3: families accept each other and we had engaged four months ago.

997
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: Me and my fiance didn't have spicy sleep yet he

998
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: always wanted to wait till we get married Christian. He

999
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: still thinks that I am a virgin. I lied to

1000
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: him and told him that I was, but the truth

1001
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 3: is I am not. I had a boyfriend before my fiance,

1002
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: but he just used me for spicy sleep and dumped me.

1003
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 3: I was serious with X, but now I feel guilty

1004
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: for lying to him. He's possibly the sweetest and most

1005
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 3: caring man I have ever seen, and I don't want

1006
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: to lose him. I feel like if I told my

1007
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: fiance the truth, there would be a change and he

1008
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: might leave. By the way, this comes from fit while

1009
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 3: fifty two and if you were sping old stories, go

1010
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 3: to the r slash okay stories. I'm sub Redditt, I'm Riley,

1011
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: I'm Savannah, I'm Dakota, and we're gonna read the story

1012
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 3: and ready goofly and give advice. Goroefully you have anything

1013
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: you want to add, please add it down below. Op says,

1014
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: I know he might not take it well because he

1015
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,959
Speaker 3: loves me as well, but I still fear he might

1016
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: and I don't want to lose him. But I feel

1017
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: guilty for lying to him. This lie is eating me

1018
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 3: from the inside. So am I the a hole for

1019
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 3: lying to him? Or would I be the a hole

1020
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: if I didn't tell him the truth. My best friend

1021
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: knows the truth, and she says there's nothing wrong with

1022
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 3: lying to him as long as it's not a big deal.

1023
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 3: But I feel guilty. Updates, I have some things to say.

1024
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 3: Let me paint the picture for you, Okay, yeah, sure.

1025
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: So as a Christian, one of the biggest things about

1026
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 3: following the faith is your sexual purity, and what that

1027
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: looks like is having no spicy sleep or like basically

1028
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 3: that if you are intimate with someone in that way,

1029
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 3: you are spiritually bond or like you have spiritual connections

1030
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: with one another, and what you want to do is

1031
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: save that for a very special person, because your body

1032
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: is a temple and you want to be connected with

1033
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: your own flesh, and then that would be your wife.

1034
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: Now I'm kind of scrutinizing a little bit, but basically

1035
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 3: it's like a really big thing to just be with you,

1036
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 3: like you know, you and your partner with Yeah, that's

1037
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 3: like a really big thing in our community. So the

1038
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: fact that he wants to wait shows how important it

1039
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: is to him. And the fact that you lied about this.

1040
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: Then I mean does it So would that change things then?

1041
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: Like so absolutely yes, yes.

1042
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: So then if like you're going by true faith, like

1043
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: you both have to be virgins in order to like

1044
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: be good Christian?

1045
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 3: Is that like it's sort of like what to strive

1046
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: for the way I look at it is we're not perfect,

1047
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: We're all not perfect, but we want to strive to

1048
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 3: have a close relationship with Jesus. And if Jesus is like, hey,

1049
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: you need to work on this thing, and he puts

1050
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 3: out in your heart, then that's your journey and you

1051
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: need to work on that thing. There's like a whole

1052
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: list of things you should yet shouldn't do, do this.

1053
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: But whenever Jesus came, he was more like, everyone's plans different,

1054
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: and this is what I want to work with, you

1055
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: want to be with. But in a sure in a

1056
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: Christian community, this is a very important thing.

1057
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: So if this were your case, would you break up

1058
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: with them? Then yes, really you'd be like, you lied

1059
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: to me this entire time. Now like they've been together

1060
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 2: for four years. Four years, you're engaged.

1061
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: I know people that will not even kiss until they're married.

1062
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's crazy.

1063
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 6: I think you should lie. Yeah, I think you should

1064
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 6: lie because he gets to have his purity and you know,

1065
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 6: and not religious, so you can just be whatever. But

1066
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 6: I just the guilt will probably eat you alive from

1067
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 6: the inside out, and you'll tell him in three years

1068
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 6: and then he'll break up with you.

1069
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: Anyway, if this is something that's eating you alive from

1070
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 3: the inside it just shows how important it is to

1071
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 3: the relationship.

1072
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. For him, it would be like very important.

1073
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: And I feel like if that was something that I

1074
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: really wanted and you straight up lied to me, and

1075
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: you've been lying to me this entire time, it is

1076
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: a big reveal. And to be like, oh, you're not

1077
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: the person who I thought you were exactly exactly you know,

1078
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: but does that diminish every single thing in your relationship

1079
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: now now that you know this information, Now it doesn't matter.

1080
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: Anything else that we went through doesn't matter because now

1081
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: that is that is what I define you as.

1082
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 3: It's what No, I don't think it defines you as

1083
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: someone like anyone can come back and be fine, like

1084
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: you know, sorry I almost have not heard that right,

1085
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 3: Sorry one more.

1086
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 4: Time, Blake.

1087
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: So saying that you have now learned this fact, she

1088
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: comes to you and she's like, hey, technically I've been

1089
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: I've been around the block. And then and then we're.

1090
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 4: Like like not even it's like one person, yeah, just.

1091
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: One person to be like Okay, So I didn't tell

1092
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: you because I was afraid, and I feel like going

1093
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 2: into this marriage, I want to start, you know, I

1094
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: want to start off on a clean slate. I have

1095
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: been like keeping a secret. I'm going to tell you

1096
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. It tells you and you know that

1097
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 2: She's like, I feel really bad, you know whatever. But yeah,

1098
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: I knew that this was a really good thing and

1099
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: I wanted to get this off my chest. What do

1100
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: you think?

1101
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1102
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 3: See, there's the layers to that because they're engaged now,

1103
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 3: this happen over their boyfriend or girlfriend, and he knew earlier,

1104
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 3: probably could turn around. But the fact that like the

1105
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: wedding day coming soon and they're planning this stuff and

1106
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 3: she now reveals it, that adds another level of complexity.

1107
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 3: But this is something like if this if it was

1108
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 3: a brother in Christ and he came to me and

1109
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 3: he told me this, you got to pray with God

1110
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 3: and see how you feel about it, because he might

1111
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: be like, yes, I can continue with it, or no,

1112
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 3: I'm not. I know couples that are Christian where a

1113
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: partner has cheated and they've decided to stay together even

1114
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 3: though they have every right in the book to leave,

1115
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 3: and it's also biblical that if someone's unfaithful to you

1116
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 3: you can leave, they still stay together because they think

1117
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 3: that the relationship is more than just themselves. They can

1118
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 3: them being together will result in more I guess good

1119
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 3: than them being a part. And they like came to

1120
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: that conclusion. They prayed about it, and then they were like,

1121
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: we're gonna stick together. In this case, he's gonna have

1122
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: to pray about it and think about it. But honestly,

1123
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 3: he's probably gonna break up. I think that because of

1124
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: how religious his parents are and how religious he is. Yeah,

1125
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 3: he's not gonna want to pray about it and sit

1126
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 3: with it. Yeah, so let's find out. Shall we put

1127
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: your bets down right now? I'm the best expert to

1128
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: talk about this living.

1129
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Billy times Is didn't go around the block, just

1130
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: in and out of drive away a few times.

1131
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,600
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1132
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,279
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1135
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Speaker 3: First of all, please do not insult my soon to

1136
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 3: be husband. He's the best I could ever hope for

1137
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 3: as a husband. He's religious, but he's never imposed his

1138
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 3: belief on me. I understand that I afft up by

1139
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 3: lying to him for five years.

1140
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: No, now it's five.

1141
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 3: And I shouldn't have, but I did, and I was guilty,

1142
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: so I came clean to him five years. You know

1143
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 3: this guy, Okay, not gonna say this, but like this

1144
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 3: guy's probably a really great gentleman. Because you guys haven't

1145
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 3: had spicy sleep for five years.

1146
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: This guy is probably a great gentleman.

1147
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 3: Like, like, this is how important this thing is to him.

1148
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 4: That's that's such a funny way to put that.

1149
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 3: Am I wrong?

1150
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 4: That's why it's so funny. You're not wrong.

1151
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 3: Like a gentleman does.

1152
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 4: Like it's it also like it could be like a yeah, no,

1153
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 4: you're right, it's funny a consummate gentleman. Oh.

1154
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 3: I also understand that he was her and he thought

1155
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 3: that I was a virgin as well as he is.

1156
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 3: But I betrayed him and it's not his fault but mine.

1157
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: I also do not care if the spicy sleep with

1158
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 3: him is good or not. I just want him. Today

1159
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 3: in the morning, he called me and said that he

1160
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 3: wants to talk to me. He said it's better if

1161
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 3: we talk instead of just getting angry and ignoring each other.

1162
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 3: I sent him text Ever since he asked me, wait,

1163
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 3: so you already told him?

1164
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh I didn't know.

1165
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 3: I didn't know that either, Yeah, she said, she confessed. Okay, Oh,

1166
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 3: I sent him text ever since. He asked me to

1167
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 3: give him some time to think every few hours about

1168
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: how sorry I was for lying to him and asked

1169
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: for his forgiveness, and he himself came to talk to me.

1170
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 3: He asked me why I lied to him, and I

1171
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 3: told him the truth. I told him that I love

1172
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 3: him very much and I didn't want to lose him,

1173
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 3: and I regret having spicy sleep with my ex. My

1174
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 3: lovely soon to be husband said that he wouldn't break

1175
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 3: off the engagement and would still marry me. But I

1176
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 3: shouldn't have lied, and it's too late for him to

1177
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 3: break off the engagement because he loves me just as

1178
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 3: much as I do, and our families will question us.

1179
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: I immediately hugged him, okay. So we prayed about it.

1180
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: He thought about it, and he came to the decision

1181
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: that he wants to say but totally up to him.

1182
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I don't know. His reasoning was like, well,

1183
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to tell everyone, so let's just keep

1184
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 2: going with what we do. There was also the love aspect.

1185
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's how do I explain this, M Lord help me.

1186
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 3: Whenever Mary got pregnant, Yeah, Joseph was engaged to her.

1187
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 3: Whenever Joseph said she was with child instead of he

1188
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 3: had and Joseph had any right to do this in

1189
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 3: his culture, he could have been like, you wronged me,

1190
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 3: and then she could have got stoned and died. But

1191
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 3: what he did instead was he brought her aside and

1192
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: was like, hey, I see that you're a child. I

1193
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: know I have stuck with you, or we're going to

1194
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 3: break it off. So then that is something he could

1195
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 3: have done, and I think he did do that, or

1196
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 3: he was a bet to do that, but an angel

1197
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 3: came and was like, yo, dude, let me explain to

1198
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 3: you the situation. And then he was like, oh, okay, great,

1199
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 3: I will trust in you, Lord. So that's probably like

1200
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: the route he would take is like break it off

1201
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 3: silently and then not really talk about it. But this

1202
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 3: is a little weird. I will agree with that. M

1203
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 3: That's one of the reasons, Okay, saw everyone this gup

1204
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 3: became a bible. I will study what hurt me the most.

1205
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 3: In his questions, he asked me if I liked being

1206
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 3: with my ex and if I enjoyed it and I

1207
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 3: do miss him, and I would be able to enjoy

1208
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 3: it with him. And the worst was that he asked me,

1209
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 3: did I go back to him or anyone else to

1210
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: be intimate. I started crying. He hugged me and said

1211
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 3: he didn't mean to hurt me, he was just asking.

1212
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 3: I understood where he came from. I am his first woman,

1213
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 3: and I said he doesn't have to feel or think

1214
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 3: the way he is feeling, and I will help him

1215
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 3: understand how it all works. I was crying and I

1216
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 3: asked him if I could give him a kiss on

1217
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 3: the lips, and he agreed. I gave him a kiss,

1218
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: and I was still crying. He hugged me and said

1219
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 3: he will not leave me. He loves me too much

1220
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 3: to do so. I love him so much I cannot

1221
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: wait to have spicy sleep with him for the first time.

1222
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 3: I will definitely be hurt in bed and expose him

1223
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 3: to see how the spicy sleep works and pleasure him

1224
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 3: so much that he will never even think about leaving me.

1225
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 3: He has mind and mine alone. He might be bad,

1226
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: but I will train him, and I will make him

1227
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 3: understand that I love him way too much to leave

1228
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 3: and train him how the spicy sleep works, and he

1229
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 3: doesn't have to worry about me cheating on him. That

1230
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 3: was a that was crazy.

1231
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: She went like she was like, oh yeah, like you

1232
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: know he believed me or everything. I will train him

1233
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 2: to become the best supreme gentleman on earth.

1234
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 4: The most gentlemanly lover of Yeah, it's.

1235
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: Like, what want? Why does she make it weird?

1236
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 6: Get your leash and get your color.

1237
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 3: Oh my god, dude, this girl is wild.

1238
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 4: Put your portraits of Christ face down for a bit, babe.

1239
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 3: Rodney cue. This girl is not a church girl. She's

1240
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 3: just dating a church guy.

1241
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 4: This is not.

1242
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 3: Waiting out what.

1243
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: You like and what I like in a very nice,

1244
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: little gentlemanly manner.

1245
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 3: He is getting what's coming to him.

1246
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 4: I'm scared he winning.

1247
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: I did not like that. Yeah, he's winning.

1248
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 4: I did not like that.

1249
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 3: You should have kept that to yourself.

1250
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 2: Do not.

1251
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 4: You will pleasure him.

1252
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: To the poolest.

1253
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: You will never want to look at any woman never again.

1254
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 4: I'm a pleasure him so good. He's gonna be like, damn,

1255
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:27,479
Speaker 4: I should have done this five years ago. Jesus would

1256
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 4: have forgave me.

1257
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 5: Man.

1258
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 3: I am posting again to ask for advice and asking

1259
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 3: others if I'm going too far and is my lovely

1260
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 3: soon to be husband being pressured because of me? Update

1261
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 3: two nine days later, that was kind of cute. Okay, great,

1262
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: No exactly, my man, whole world about to get blessed. Yep,

1263
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 3: marriage doomed. Who thinks this is gonna work? Who thinks

1264
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 3: it isn't they're both twenty five, by the way, they're

1265
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 3: my age.

1266
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's true.

1267
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 5: They are.

1268
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 4: It's gonna work. She's gonna make sure it's gonna work.

1269
00:54:59,400 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1270
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: I feel like now she's like, oh, well, I told

1271
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 2: him the big secret and he still accepted me. I'm

1272
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 2: gonna go all out.

1273
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he loved me too much to leave me. Yeah,

1274
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 3: because I guess he must think that you know, you're

1275
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 3: being unfaithful to him, but you guys weren't in the

1276
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 3: context of a relationship at that point. Yeah, I mean,

1277
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 3: up to him, up to him. But he's gonna have

1278
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 3: a hard time.

1279
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: He's gonna have a hard time.

1280
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 3: He's gonna be hard all the time. That's what I'm

1281
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 3: gonna say. Oh my god, I did not expect that.

1282
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 4: It's hard time.

1283
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: Mama's home to get hard.

1284
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 6: I woke up in the morning, I like put it

1285
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 6: phone in the moan, wake up thinking about microphone.

1286
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: He guys says he's gonna throw her not being pure

1287
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 3: back in her face when he gets mad. I don't

1288
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 3: know if this guy is as gentlemanly as I think

1289
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 3: he is. He would not do that.

1290
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, And even if he did, she would just

1291
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 4: go like and then he would be like, he'd go down.

1292
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 4: He'd go down on his knees like a dog.

1293
00:55:54,080 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 3: Gotta brush his shotgun trigger, brush the trigger. Nine days later,

1294
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 3: he didn't say anything for a while. I broke the

1295
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 3: silence and asked him to tell me what he's thinking.

1296
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 3: Would you not get married to me after knowing this?

1297
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 3: He said that he isn't breaking our engagement and is

1298
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 3: going to get married to me, but he needs time

1299
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 3: to get over it all. He said he never expected

1300
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 3: something like this. I said, that is not a big

1301
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 3: deal and not worth ruining our lovely life over. It's

1302
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: gone and it happened years ago. See, this is another thing.

1303
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 3: This guy is young. He probably hasn't had the emotional

1304
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 3: maturity yet to understand or like process these things yet.

1305
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 3: Like his emotional processing is probably slow right now, and

1306
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 3: he needs time.

1307
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: I feel like he very much like or now she

1308
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 2: I feel like, is kind of making him feel bad,

1309
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 2: like kind of manipulating him a little. Really yeah, that

1310
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: last sentence she was like it, you know, like, are

1311
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 2: we still gonna get married? He's like yeah. But anytime

1312
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: she's like, well, it's really not that big of a deal.

1313
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: This happened like years ago, so like I feel like

1314
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: she's yeah, I feel like she's backpedaling back.

1315
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 3: Think what are you gonna say?

1316
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. Like what got me was him being

1317
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 4: like I never expected something like this. It's like, really, did.

1318
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 3: Really you not?

1319
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 4: Really?

1320
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 3: You know how many foods like this? I know this

1321
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 3: used to be my friend group, Dakota, you know, but

1322
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 3: like I hung out every Sunday night with these guys.

1323
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 4: They still have I mean, I guess, yeah, used to

1324
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 4: be one of these guys, Dakota. When you get told

1325
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,439
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I do. I agree with her though,

1326
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 4: it's like it's not a big deal in a vacuum,

1327
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 4: it's not a big deal. But when in the context

1328
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 4: of like his spirituality, it is a big deal. Yes, yes,

1329
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 4: but and it's a big deal for him, it is

1330
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 4: not for her. But he's like, is it a thing?

1331
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 4: Where like you have to sleep with a virgin or

1332
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 4: you're also in trouble.

1333
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 3: No, Like, it's like it's just like you guys should

1334
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: both save yourselves for marriage. That's sort of like the goal.

1335
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,919
Speaker 4: Because if you don't like a fire, but like if she, yeah,

1336
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 4: I don't know. Honestly, I think any relationship with like

1337
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 4: a huge disparity in like religious belief is kind of

1338
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 4: set up to fail because if they really are super

1339
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 4: convicted in their beliefs, like that's a huge deal. And

1340
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 4: if you aren't, you're never gonna see eye to eye

1341
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 4: on that. And like in the context of really believing,

1342
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 4: it's like you're basically like, oh, yeah, well I have

1343
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 4: my wife but she's not religious, but like I'm still

1344
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 4: going to make in my life's mission to save her

1345
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 4: immortal soul. So they'll he probably will never stop trying

1346
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 4: to Like I feel like he's gonna wriggle, but he

1347
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 4: wants to wriggle that in there.

1348
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 3: I don't.

1349
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 4: I don't know, because why wouldn't he. It's like, I

1350
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 4: want to save my wife. I want to go to

1351
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 4: heaven with my wife. He he that's true.

1352
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: Would she not get into heaven now?

1353
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 3: No, I'm not. I'm not the type of guy to

1354
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 3: be like who gets in a heaven and who does

1355
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 3: get to that heaven? What I know is from my

1356
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 3: understanding is to get to heaven you have to believe

1357
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 3: in Jesus and repent and like, you know, follow Jesus

1358
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 3: and see what he has for your life if she wants.

1359
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 4: To do that.

1360
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 3: And this is how I relate a lot to this guy. Okay, yeah,

1361
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be real. I relate a lot to this guy.

1362
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 3: And I'm good, I'm about to get emotional like you

1363
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 3: did a little bit ago. But I relate a lot

1364
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 3: to this guy because you know, i'man I am religious.

1365
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 3: I have like a close relations with Jesus and my

1366
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 3: partner does not. But I do not in any way

1367
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 3: feel like I need to beat Angie with the head

1368
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 3: with the Bible and be like, oh, I want you

1369
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 3: to be Christian. I want you to be a Christian.

1370
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 3: Would it be nice, Yes, would be awesome, absolutely. But

1371
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 3: my wish for her is just to have an encounter

1372
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 3: with it and just not even try it out, just like,

1373
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, be curious about it, see if it works,

1374
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 3: and if it doesn't. That's all that's on her. Yeah,

1375
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: that's all I have to say. And and Dakota, you

1376
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 3: do have a good point. He might do that in

1377
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 3: the long term, he might. This might be a way

1378
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 3: to just this is my way of saving someone. I'm

1379
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 3: gonna do it. It could be, but but I don't

1380
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 3: think he would.

1381
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, because that's that's the thing that does it is

1382
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 4: that is the impulse to be like Bible like. But

1383
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 4: it is it's not setting stone.

1384
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 3: It takes everything in me not to bring a Bible

1385
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 3: that has every single one of your names in it

1386
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 3: and hit you on the head with It. Takes every

1387
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 3: thing in my day not to bring that to work.

1388
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 4: Takes everything I have to not hit you with the Bible.

1389
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 3: It says no to Adhd right here, Tokoda see it.

1390
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: No, I don't.

1391
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

1392
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 3: All right.

1393
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 4: Anyways, I think you can cust the Lord into me.

1394
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 3: I see Jesus. He said, what will I say to

1395
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 3: my parents if they find out about this? I said,

1396
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 3: they don't need to know, and my ever not know.

1397
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 3: I hugged him and said in his ear, would he

1398
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 3: finally be willing to have spicy sleep with me? It's

1399
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 3: been five years almost, It's time we have spicy sleep

1400
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 3: for the first time without hesitation. He said, no, he

1401
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 3: won't not yet. He said, he's still getting married to me,

1402
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 3: but he needs time that I don't like that.

1403
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 4: That was a absolutely wild take. Yeah, the attempt there

1404
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 4: to pivot, that's crazy.

1405
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: See, that's why I'm saying, she's kind of manipulating him,

1406
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: like being like, oh, I got him to say that

1407
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: I'm in the clear, now let's do what I want.

1408
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: It's like, no, no, no, no, that's not why he like, he's.

1409
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 3: Still there's a boundary.

1410
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's boundary, and now she's trying to be like, wait,

1411
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: let me just tiptoe up to that line.

1412
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 4: I really think, based if that what she just tried,

1413
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 4: I think that will be the downfall of this.

1414
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1415
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna take time and be like, nah,

1416
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 4: this is this is not it.

1417
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 3: But the thing is, he isn't replying or acting the

1418
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 3: way he used to before I told him the truth

1419
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 3: five days ago. So when I couldn't find anything else,

1420
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 3: I called his cousin, who has become a good friend

1421
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 3: of mine over these years. I told her everything we met,

1422
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,439
Speaker 3: and she told me that she's not a version either,

1423
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 3: but hit it. She said that we both should go

1424
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 3: talk to him. So today we both met with him,

1425
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 3: and his cousin consoled him and said that it's not

1426
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 3: that big of a deal and it's on the past,

1427
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 3: and she knows that my fiance is still hurt, but

1428
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 3: it's not worth breaking everything me and my fiance fought

1429
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 3: so hard for. He said that he is not breaking

1430
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 3: the engagement. His cousin said he shouldn't react away. He

1431
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 3: is reacting towards me. She's said that to my fiance

1432
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 3: that we should finally have spicy sleep and enjoy life.

1433
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 3: Spicy sleep might deepen our love and help him get

1434
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 3: over what he is feeling. He said, no, not until marriage.

1435
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 3: He promised me that we are getting married, but he

1436
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 3: will stick to his morals. Now I'm feeling so sad

1437
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 3: and broken that I can't even think straight. I'm so stressed.

1438
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 3: I know my fiances promised me, and I know he

1439
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 3: still loves me. I trust him with my life and

1440
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 3: and so does he. He will never lie to me

1441
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 3: or hurt me. If he didn't want to get married

1442
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 3: to me, he would have just refused, but he didn't.

1443
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 3: But I can't see him like this. I want to

1444
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 3: hug him and kiss him and hurt him in the

1445
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 3: bed and enjoy the rest of my life with him.

1446
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 4: Excuse me.

1447
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: The wrong word. Can't seeking her words right? I want

1448
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 2: I love him so much.

1449
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 4: I want to hurt him in bed. I want him

1450
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 4: to feelsh the raina.

1451
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 6: Bell on his bed.

1452
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 4: What did Jesus? Oh, they're gonna break out the I

1453
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 4: want Satan himself to come down and lay with us.

1454
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 3: In the bed. Oh my god.

1455
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 4: What was the thing that Jesus had to do? He

1456
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 4: had the flog right, he got het. Yeah, She's like,

1457
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 4: I'm bringing I'm bringing.

1458
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 3: The flaw that is.

1459
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't you love Jesus so much? Let's I

1460
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 4: just oh my god, this is crazy.

1461
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 2: She's she's this now in her mind. I feel like

1462
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 2: this is like her way of making up for it.

1463
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,479
Speaker 2: She's like, I feel really bad. I'm gonna give him

1464
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 2: something that he's never experienced so that he doesn't have

1465
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 2: to think, like, so that he doesn't need to think

1466
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 2: about what I did. I wanted to think about what

1467
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 2: we could have, and she's just like, don't think about that. Yeah,

1468
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 2: she's trying to make it up, like trying to backpedal.

1469
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 3: I he needs to get away and find a good

1470
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 3: girl at church. I don't know, that's up to him

1471
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 3: to find out. Maybe perhaps she sounds toxic in a

1472
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 3: bad way. This is nearly abusive. It is kind of

1473
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 3: weird how she is being about this point in their relationship.

1474
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 2: And that might have also been like past trauma to her,

1475
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 2: like maybe her past relationship, Like you know, she said

1476
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 2: in the past her ex used her in that way,

1477
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 2: like she would get used in that way. So now

1478
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 2: she's thinking, Oh, in order to make up, I just

1479
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 2: have to do this to him and then everything's.

1480
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 3: Good, Savannah. Isn't attractive whenever you have a partner and

1481
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 3: they have a strong moral grounding on something, like they're

1482
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 3: kind of a leader on something, wouldn't that Isn't that

1483
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 3: an attractive trait?

1484
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: It depends what it is.

1485
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 3: Well, something you guys share mutual we.

1486
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: Agree on it, then yeah, yeah, I'm like, heck, yeah,

1487
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 2: let's go to the ends of the world with it.

1488
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 3: Like if this guy, If you are with someone and

1489
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 3: they have a strong moral boundary about things and they

1490
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 3: live their life that way, isn't that attractive like a

1491
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 3: good trait to have?

1492
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, like leadership is a leadership is very good.

1493
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 2: I think leadership is attractive and how you can command

1494
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 2: a room by just walking in it. I think that's

1495
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 2: that's so attractive.

1496
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why you would want to take

1497
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 3: that away from him, because this is one of the

1498
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 3: things in the relationship. Yes, and I mean I know

1499
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 3: it would be with you, but like, this is something

1500
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 3: that's important to himself.

1501
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: Well, she fell in love with this version of him? Yeah,

1502
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: so why is she trying to change it all of

1503
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: a sudden?

1504
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 3: She says, if I could, I would like to rush

1505
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 3: the wedding. But how can I help him get over this?

1506
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 3: I consulted with my best friend and she said if

1507
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 3: I had just kept my mouth shut, we would have

1508
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 3: both lived a right life. I did nothing but hurt

1509
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 3: him by telling him something he didn't need to know,

1510
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 3: and it didn't make any difference except stray in a relationship.

1511
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 3: I mostly regret my decision, but I'm glad that I'm

1512
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 3: no longer lying to the man I don't deserve and

1513
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 3: the only man I love the most. I just pray

1514
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 3: he doesn't leave me and we both get over this girl.

1515
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 3: He is going to have to pray this is a

1516
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 3: wound that he needs to heal himself. Yeah, this will

1517
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 3: make your relationship stronger in the long run. Just support him.

1518
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 3: That is that is literally what happened.

1519
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 2: Instead, she's like trying to manipulate him, be like, Okay,

1520
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 2: how can we get over this? How can it make

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01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 2: you feel good? How can like, you know, when you

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01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: feel good? I feel good and you're not feeling good

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01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 2: right now, so I need to do something about that.

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01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah, give them time.

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01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 3: And Mogarry says, after admitting you lied for five years,

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01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 3: you shouldn't push him to do something that is testing

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01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 3: his boundaries. Yea, And okay, Billy time. I'm not even

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01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 3: slightly religious, but I even think the devil is testing

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01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 3: his faith. Yeah, dude, this is a this is something

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01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 3: to was you know, sew see how strong he is.

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01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 3: You should have kept quiet. I disagree. I don't think

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01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 3: you should keep something this important to imagine Imagine this.

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01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 3: I told Angie someone has already made a jacket for

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Speaker 3: me after she made me a jacket. Imagine she gives

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01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,959
Speaker 3: me that jacket our anniversary, and I said, actually, someone

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01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 3: else made me a jacket. I was warm for a

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01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 3: while beforehand, and that wasn't the first jacket anyone's ever

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Speaker 3: made for me. That would be.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I see. I think I think maybe it's more

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01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 4: like like taking someone on like a really like nice,

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01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 4: like special date, and then it's like you did that

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01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 4: with your ex, like the exact same date, and then

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01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 4: making them feel like it was this special, one of

1544
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 4: a kind thing that you did with them. Really it's

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01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 4: something you've done with everyone that you've ever done.

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01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's layers to it, man, there, but I really

1547
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 3: do believe. Look, I don't know.

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01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think holding on the lie is manipulative,

1549
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 4: and now telling him the truth and then doing this

1550
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 4: is also manipulative. And I think if you could have

1551
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 4: convinced yourself in your head that the first time didn't count,

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01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 4: that you were a virgin, I think that would have

1553
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,439
Speaker 4: been the best way to go about it, not even

1554
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 4: going to lie, because if you did have this five

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01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 4: year relationship and you all love each other and everything's

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01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 4: perfect except for that one thing, then yeah, I don't know, man,

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01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 4: I don't know. And also he did make a comment

1558
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 4: about how it's like, well, we can't even break off

1559
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 4: this because then people will ask questions. Yeah, so then

1560
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 4: it's like what does that mean? So that then it's say, so,

1561
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 4: why are we saying It's more like I don't know, man,

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01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 4: Like some.

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01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 3: Christians like to have a nice front where it's like, hey,

1564
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 3: everything's fine, everything's looking good.

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01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 4: He's an optics he's an optics guy.

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01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 2: So you can't like say, they have children, you know,

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01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: and your child doesn't want to continue your faith? Is

1569
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 2: he going to now you know, be like, oh, we

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01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 2: can't tell anyone that you know.

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01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 3: Sarah C. Princess says she is now trying to push

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01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 3: him to bypass his moral boundary that is strongly linked

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01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 3: to his Christian faith. That yeah, that's stuff. I would

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01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 3: have another separate conversation about that too with her if

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01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 3: I was this guy. Look, you know what I feel

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01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 3: about this. You trying to get me to do this

1577
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 3: is not comfortable. As the only feminist here, I vote

1578
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 3: she should have kept it quiet deathbed confession. I disagree

1579
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 3: with that, Roniq.

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01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 4: I like, is it the morally right thing to do?

1581
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 2: Like?

1582
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 4: Probably not? But is it?

1583
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 2: But the thing is for her? For him, it's a

1584
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 2: big deal for her, it's not. So do you want

1585
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 2: to do this for yourself or are you doing it

1586
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: for him so that he will accept you?

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01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 3: I think once you become in a marriage with someone.

1588
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 3: You guys are a unit. You guys are one, and

1589
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 3: if someone hides something from another person, that is not

1590
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 3: going to be really good in the long run of things.

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01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1592
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 3: I agree, So I don't think it should happen.

1593
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,440
Speaker 2: I mean, it just it really depends on your morals.

1594
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 3: Yep. Okay, guys, that's the end of that story. We're

1595
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 3: gonna tie a bow on that. We're gonna read some comments,

1596
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 3: and now you.

1597
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Speaker 2: Have some comments. These comments are from my boyfriend set

1598
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 2: up a loyalty test. I dumped him. This was posted

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01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 2: May twenty seven, twenty twenty six, and this is the

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01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: TLDR of story one. Opie's boyfriend secretly set her up

1601
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 2: for a loyalty test, hiring a stranger to hit on

1602
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 2: her so he could film the whole thing for a

1603
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 2: YouTube video. She passed without even flinching, but the second

1604
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 2: she found out it was fake, she told him the

1605
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 2: relationship was over. Then it got worse. He pulled in

1606
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 2: their friends, their mutual friends, and even her own family

1607
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 2: to gang up on her and tell her she was overreacting.

1608
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 2: Even her own mom took his side, but OPI had

1609
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 2: no idea what his ex girlfriend was about to reveal.

1610
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 2: One phone call exposed the truth about who really cheated,

1611
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: and it flipped this entire story upside down. What he

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01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 2: had been hiding all along is jaw dropping. If you're

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01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 2: curious to know the full story, you can go watch

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01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 2: the full video.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and we've got some comments. Come one. By the way,

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01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 4: leave your own comments. They might get featured in a video.

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Speaker 4: Comment one by Ali Zoo four seven five five says,

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Speaker 4: boyfriend sets up a test and plans to put it

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Speaker 4: online and sets up a guy to annoy and harass

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01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 4: her and then sets his flying monkeys on her when

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01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,799
Speaker 4: she is rightfully angry. Yeah, he deserves to be alone.

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Speaker 4: Boom I comient too. Boom comment too by Haile and

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Speaker 4: Matt says, if they pass the test, you can never

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01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 4: let them know that you were testing them. They pass,

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01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 4: you fail yes. Comment three you have from Medidido. Medidio says,

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01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 4: in the first story of the guy literally asks some

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01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 4: guy to harass and basically stalk her. That is not

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01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 4: a test. That is most women's worst nightmare when they

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01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 4: are just trying to exist in public. And a DJ

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01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 4: Windu says there is narcissism and then there's brother in

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01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:55,520
Speaker 4: law's girlfriend.

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Speaker 3: Out of this world, off the spectrum. That's the end

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01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 3: of this story. Thanks for watching. If you want to

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01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,000
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