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Speaker 1: Even this afternoon, moves have been made. Jam packed hiatape

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night, January fourteenth, year of our lower twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I got some extended stuff on Alabama. There is this wide,

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Speaker 1: wide range of opinions on whether they're just going to

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Speaker 1: the show tonight. I have to talk to you about

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Speaker 1: something that I've spoken to you about two times already.

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Speaker 1: Our Kaylin de Boor to Alabama video did Bonker's numbers,

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Speaker 1: But it's a very very important general manager. Alabama football

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Speaker 1: it along with you, thirty somethings down there in Tuscaloosa,

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Speaker 1: I say, is there a point here? Are we getting somewhere?

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Speaker 1: Is there a logical conclusion to this? My point is, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of how nil works. Like, how do you

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Speaker 1: think kJ Jefferson wound up picking Central Florida? Just a

431
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Speaker 1: random name there? How is it that we think any

432
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Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks actually land where it is they land?

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Speaker 1: What did we think was going on? I've noticed, at

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Speaker 1: least in the talent acquisition department, whether it's recruiting or

435
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Speaker 1: the portal, there's a little bit different standard that's applied

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Speaker 1: to Miami just cause a lot of folks hate them.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, that's okay. Candidly, might I tell you something candidly?

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Speaker 1: As a youth of the sec you know, I was

439
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Speaker 1: raised to hate Miami too, right, I was raised I

440
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 1: was raised around folks who who kind of said the

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Speaker 1: Miami way of doing things. Ah nah, man, not don't

442
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 1: want you thinking that is college football. I get it, man,

443
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: I know that they're hated across the country for various reasons.

444
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm not even telling you not to hate them. I mean,

445
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: we got room for love and hate on this show.

446
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: All I'm asking you is, if Lane Kiffen pulls it off,

447
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: or if Kirby Smart pulls it off, whoever pulls it off,

448
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: and then Mario does the same thing, can we just

449
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: apply a broadly acceptable, equal standard here. That's all I'm

450
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: asking you. Know, abauck to hating them in two seconds.

451
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Speaker 1: But bottom line is they had need at the quarterback position.

452
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Speaker 1: There are things the sport allows you to do right now,

453
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Speaker 1: including things that don't get policed. Therefore everyone does them,

454
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Speaker 1: whether they're technically right or wrong. And they did them.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's all. So the other part of this is,

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Speaker 1: no one's mind got changed. As far as I can tell,

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Speaker 1: I've got a group text of I you just ought

458
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Speaker 1: to call it the Caine hate group because it's a

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Speaker 1: bunch of Florida State fans, Because believe it or not,

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Speaker 1: they still roll with me. I've got Florida fans in there,

461
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: and there's a couple of Clemson fans. So the Caine

462
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: hater text message thread and me was full of people

463
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Speaker 1: who whether they hated it or just didn't like it,

464
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Speaker 1: none of them liked it. But whether they flat out

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Speaker 1: hated it or didn't like it, no one changed their mind.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, even the totally agnostic crowd out there,

467
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Speaker 1: like a Colorado fan or a Montana fan looked at it,

468
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Speaker 1: and whether you thought highly of Miami's future or you

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Speaker 1: don't think anything of Miami's future, nobody changed their mind.

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Speaker 1: So I know what we're headed towards. We're headed towards

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Speaker 1: a season where I am going to be told it

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Speaker 1: is do or die time from Mario. Got no problem

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Speaker 1: with that. Fine, I'm gonna be told by certain people

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Speaker 1: that this is the year Miami wins double digit games.

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Speaker 1: And their opinion was only bolstered by cam Ward going

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Speaker 1: down there. And then I've got another group, and I

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Speaker 1: would argue this group is way bigger than the first group,

478
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: and that group is all these dudes recruit, but they

479
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 1: can't coach their way out of a wet paper bag.

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00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: They'll go seven and five, eight and four. At best,

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Speaker 1: they'll get fired. And nothing about that opinion changed. They

482
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Speaker 1: already held that opinion yesterday morning, and then they saw

483
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Speaker 1: this and they said, who cares. They've always gotten players.

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Speaker 1: So I'll give you my prediction in likes five months

485
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Speaker 1: or so. I do want to remind you of something.

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Speaker 1: We are entering a new era of college football. We

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Speaker 1: are entering the expanded playoff era, and I just want

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Speaker 1: to remind you, as much as I don't like it,

489
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Speaker 1: we're here. I had a Tennessee fan walk up to

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Speaker 1: me at the gym today and was asking me about Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way about Tennessee as I do

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Speaker 1: about Miami, and frankly, a lot of these teams, they

493
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Speaker 1: are going to be teams that, in the old way

494
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Speaker 1: of doing things, probably wouldn't have found themselves in the

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Speaker 1: playoff conversation. They would have been a dark horse to

496
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Speaker 1: legitimate candidate to maybe win their conference, but you didn't

497
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Speaker 1: think that they were a playoff contender. Now I had

498
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Speaker 1: a bunch of teams. You're gonna have this big basket

499
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Speaker 1: of teams that you think are flawed and you think

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Speaker 1: will lose a couple of games, maybe three, but if

501
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: the dominoes fall right, they could just wind up back

502
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Speaker 1: in their way into the playoff. Well, teams like Tennessee

503
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: and teams like Miami are really gonna stand out to

504
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: me because they can even afford to lose some games early.

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Speaker 1: But if they get hot, you know, like Major League

506
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: Baseball Wild Card race style, if they get hot late

507
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: in the year, you're gonna look at them differently because

508
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna look at Tennessee with Nico Iamaliava, like what

509
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: if that kid gets them in the playoff, Or if

510
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: cam Ward shines this year but he's kind of up

511
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Speaker 1: and down. He's sporadic throughout September October, but they kind

512
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: of hit their stride in November and they end up

513
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: let's say nine to three or ten and two, but

514
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: they back their way into the playoff non conference champ

515
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Speaker 1: They're gonna have to go on the road first round,

516
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Speaker 1: but cam Ward is in the playoff. All of a sudden,

517
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: you're looking around saying, ooh, man, don't want to face

518
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Speaker 1: that quarterback. Now. I know that got a lot of

519
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: you excited, a lot of you having to fan yourself

520
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: right now. You know, I know some of you love it.

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00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: Some of you don't, but that's where we are. So

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00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: those are the kinds of teams, and that's the kind

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Speaker 1: of pickup that could single handedly shift someone's playoff fortunes

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Speaker 1: in the future. And I've got news for you now

525
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: that you know Jedfish, for instance, has left Arizona. You

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Speaker 1: got a quarterback out there. We don't know what he's

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00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: gonna do, but you got a quarterback out there who,

528
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, could spell the same

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Speaker 1: kind of fortune change for another program if he does

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Speaker 1: indeed decide to transfer. I did have my eye on

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Speaker 1: something else yesterday. I think someone asked me about Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Georgia what they didn't win the conference, They didn't go

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Speaker 1: to the playoff? Why are we talking about Georgia. Well, friends,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you, after a sip from the still nondescript

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Speaker 1: cup of coffee, this could be you. Your company could be

536
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: on this cup. No, I'm just kidding. Well, I'm not kidding,

537
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: but I'm just kind of playing around. Emma hit me

538
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: up and said, did you see Kirby Smart Steal t

539
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: Rob from Alabama? T Rob for those unfamiliar as Travers Robinson.

540
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: He was the dB coach there, and he's not anymore

541
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Speaker 1: because he has gone to be the co defensive coordinator

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00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: at Georgia. He is a phenomenal recruiter, one of the

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Speaker 1: best on that staff, some would argue the best on

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Speaker 1: that staff, next to his former boss, Nick Saban. And

545
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: so this happened yesterday morning as everyone's waiting on the

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00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: Kaelin de Boor introductory press conference, all of a sudden,

547
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: Kirby just goes do it now now now, all right,

548
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: t Rob changes the Twitter profile, changes the profile. Pick

549
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: He's gone, big pickup. I mean they have loaded their

550
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: staff up over there. Imagine being so loaded that Will

551
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: Muschamp can't even have an on field spot. I mean

552
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: he's got to be bumped down to like analysts or

553
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 1: whatever role it is where you're not full time. So

554
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: he's loaded a staff up over there. Glenn Schuman's over there,

555
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: You got t Rob over there. Now. Oh by the way,

556
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart's the head coach. So the defensive bring trust

557
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: about as impressive as any place you will have seen

558
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: it constructed since mid twenty teens Alabama actually, and Kirby

559
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: was there during that. This was a cold blooded move,

560
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: particularly cold blooded because of the timing. Now, I'm of

561
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: the opinion that it would have been even better and

562
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: an even funnier shot across the bow had they been

563
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Speaker 1: able to keep it bottle up another couple of hours

564
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: and have that news drop ten minutes before the press

565
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: conference started. But you're good for Kirby. Not that heartless.

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Speaker 1: There's still a heart beat somewhere in there. I think

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00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: that I got a so. I had a buddy who

568
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: texted me yesterday. He said, Man, how much defensive talent

569
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: can we stack on this staff man? At some point?

570
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: It's like overkill. That was the general theme that's paraphrasing

571
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: the text. Do you watch this past season? Do you

572
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: watch the fact that despite them having all that coaching

573
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: talent over there already, and despite them having all those

574
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: talented players already, they didn't even win the comp conference.

575
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: It's not a shot against Georgia. They literally just won

576
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: the last two national titles. It's meant to illustrate how

577
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: even with all the perceived advantages in the sport, it's

578
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: still extremely hard to win, extremely hard to win. And

579
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Speaker 1: I used to it's in fact nine used to anything.

580
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: I still feel this way. There's this perception in college football,

581
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Speaker 1: that these teams who recruit perennial top five classes and

582
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: they've got massive budgets for staffing and facilities, and they

583
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: get everything seemingly that they want, that they have this

584
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: massive edge, and they do, maybe you know, year to

585
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: year they do. But any given Saturday, it still comes

586
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: down to a few plays. It still comes down to

587
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: margins and fractions of inches here and there, and bounces

588
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: bobs bounces the balls here and there. And that's the

589
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: misconception because what happens inevitably, whether it's Saban at Alabama

590
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: or now, whether it's Kirby, whether it's Ryan Day, any

591
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: of these coaches that staf these rosters, the perception becomes, Okay,

592
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: since you've got all those edges, you got to beat

593
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: everyone into a coma. That's not reality. It's not reality

594
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: because of several trades off. Number one, you don't really

595
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: get the kind of edge that you think you get.

596
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: You get edges, but you're spending the way you do,

597
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: and you're recruiting the way you do, and you're stacking

598
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: coaching talent the way you do, just to get microscopic edges.

599
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: Any given Saturday. It's not like Grand Canyon exists between

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Speaker 1: you and Florida. No matter how bad Florida looks or

601
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: you in South Carolina, they can still lead you fourteen

602
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: to three at halftime. And you look at it and

603
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: you can either do one of two things. You can

604
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: either say, Wow, Kirby's really underachieving, or you can understand,

605
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: maybe I just miscalculated the kind of edge that acquiring

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00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: all this really gets you. The other thing is you've

607
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: got to be relentless in this stuff. You don't take

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00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: any days off the thinking that I would get about

609
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: ninety five percent of people described to or prescribed to,

610
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm still unaware of which is the proper usage, and

611
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my earpiece out so Jesse doesn't try

612
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: and the source me to death. But I think what

613
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: makes the great ones great is they get that you

614
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: got to be relentless eight days out of the week.

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00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: You just keep doing this, You keep stacking talent, you

616
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: keep grinding, and you don't stop to look to your

617
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: left or right or even in your rear view and see, hmm,

618
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: how many more number one recruiting classes have I gotten

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Speaker 1: than whoever's next closest, or how many points am I

620
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: favored by in hypothetical Vegas terms against the next closest

621
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Speaker 1: team in the rankings. It's just foolishness to think like that.

622
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: The minute you think like that, you're done. You're no

623
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: longer on top. You eventually be paying for a ticket

624
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: to sit in the stands, and you'll be doing the

625
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: speaking circuit about how once upon a time you were

626
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: a college football coach. You've just got to keep stick man.

627
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: It never gets easier. And once you start elevating, all

628
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: that happens is a bunch of folks think you're gonna

629
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: crush everyone, and in reality, you just suffer new consequences,

630
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: the consequences of success, because elevating to the altitude that

631
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: you've elevated to thins the air out, and it's no

632
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: different than legitimately flying all of a sudden, there are

633
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: things you have to deal with up there that you

634
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: don't have to deal with on the ground. There are

635
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: things you got to deal with when you're up where

636
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: Kirby has Georgia that you don't have to deal with

637
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Speaker 1: when you're down where Napier has Florida. Right now, it's

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00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: not a shot, I guess it is a shot at Florida.

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Speaker 1: I'm pulling for Florida. But I mean the honest reality

640
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Speaker 1: is there a long way between one program and the

641
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: other right now. So yeah, it was a cold blood

642
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: and move, but it's not like the cups already full

643
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: and Kirby just poured more into it to watch it

644
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: overflow for fun. He looked at it and said, we

645
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: got a chance to get better here. We got an

646
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: opportunity to better our staff here. We got a chance

647
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Speaker 1: to up our recruiting game here, because you can never

648
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: be good enough. So it was cold blooded, but it

649
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: was also exactly what I would expect from someone like him.

650
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Speaker 1: Speaking of going back a few minutes now, speaking of

651
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Speaker 1: the transfer portal, there's a lot going on because of

652
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: these coaching moves, and I feel the need to get

653
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Speaker 1: you up to speed right quick. Got a good crowd

654
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Speaker 1: here for a show that we had to start early.

655
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Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys being tuned in. Subscribe to the channel. Subscribe, subscribe,

656
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Speaker 1: that's all. That's three times. That's enough. Portal Intel. Now,

657
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: if you want to know about cam Ward going to Miami,

658
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: we already did an entire segment on it. And if

659
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Speaker 1: you're watching an individual video later, don't worry that'll be

660
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Speaker 1: on the channel. But as for the rest of you,

661
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Speaker 1: Isaiah Bond has gone from Alabama to Texas. Isaiah Bond,

662
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Speaker 1: you remember him, fourth and thirty one, back corner the

663
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Speaker 1: end zone and the Iron Bowl. Is nothing sacred anymore.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Bond, number seventeen. There in Crimson. He'll be wearing

665
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Speaker 1: well Burn orange this fall. Hey man, I thought I

666
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Speaker 1: thought he would have been a great fit in anyone's

667
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Speaker 1: offensive system, and it probably would have shined under de

668
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 1: Boor and will shine under Steve Sarkeesian. Keep in mind

669
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: there at Texas, Xavier Worthy out the door, ad Mitchell

670
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: out the door. I believe so. Adi Mitchell feels like

671
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: he's been around fifteen years. So this is a big pickup.

672
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Speaker 1: And it was a, I guess, a really good spot

673
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: for Bond to be in, because he was going to

674
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Speaker 1: be good no matter where he ended up, whether it's

675
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Speaker 1: his former home or new home. AJ Harris has committed

676
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Speaker 1: to Penn State in the Producer Jesse memorial spot in

677
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: the show Jesse's Still Alive. AJ Harris played right across

678
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Speaker 1: the river from where I grew up over there at

679
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Speaker 1: Central Phoenix City. He was a number nine overall player

680
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Speaker 1: in the portal, number two corner, former five star from

681
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Speaker 1: down there at Georgia. So he's transferred from Georgia. It's

682
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Speaker 1: a very needed pickup for Penn State. And they got

683
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: Jalen Kimber too from Florida. These were both needed pickups

684
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: because they just lost their number one and number two corners,

685
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: along with many Dia as their defensive coordinator. So I

686
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: don't ever believe that playing time is guaranteed, but it's

687
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: all but a certainty that aj Harris will be on

688
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Speaker 1: the field for them. You know, watch that Penn State

689
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: spring game. I assume you'll see a lot of him.

690
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: Evan Stewart sweepstakes has come to an end and Oregon

691
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: comes out on top. I said that wrong. Actually it's

692
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: not that way at all. This was not in one

693
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Speaker 1: of your classic nil bidding wars. But Evan Stewart ends

694
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: up at Oregon number three overall at the wide receipt. No,

695
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Speaker 1: he's number three of all on the portal. I forgot

696
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Speaker 1: he was ranked that high. It makes sense, though, really

697
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: good player from Texas A and M former five star.

698
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Speaker 1: They are putting together a lethal offense at Oregon. I mean,

699
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Speaker 1: I know they put up big numbers this past year.

700
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Speaker 1: I think maybe the common fan looks and says, well,

701
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Speaker 1: Bo Nicks has gone, Now there goes Oregon. Shot. No, no,

702
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: they went and got Dante Moore, got a Dylan Gabriel

703
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: just at quarterback, and they've got a ton returning. But

704
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: they have added some pieces. Man, they are going to

705
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: be absolutely loaded for Bear. It's the first time I've

706
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: ever used that phrase in my life. I've never said

707
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: loaded for Bear. What a night here on late Ca Clive.

708
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: They've also landed Jamari Caldwell, so they made a couple

709
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: of big moves. That's a defensive lineman. By the way,

710
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 1: he won't play offense for him this year. I told

711
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: you the other day. Probably if I take the top

712
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: five most consistent comments that I see on this channel,

713
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: I read all the comments, even the bad ones. I

714
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: read all the comments. One of the top five most

715
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Speaker 1: popular themes is people talk about West Coast teams Oregon included,

716
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Speaker 1: and they think they don't have the beef to contend

717
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs with the big boys. There's a good

718
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: reason to think that. It's mostly been true, and so

719
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: now Oregon's going into the Big ten. So there's a

720
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: school of thought that, Yeah, I mean, they may catch

721
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Speaker 1: some folks with their offense and how explosive it is,

722
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: but they don't have the beef to withstand a season

723
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Speaker 1: long conference schedule in conference grime. Again, I get why

724
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Speaker 1: you think that that has been largely the case for

725
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Speaker 1: West Coast teams, even in out of conference or bowl

726
00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: game situations in the past. Oregon's different because Oregon's being

727
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: built different. Oregon is not a classical West Coast team

728
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: in terms of talent acquisition because they can go national

729
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: to a very unique situation that they can, they do

730
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Speaker 1: a better job of recruiting nationally than the Southern cal does.

731
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Speaker 1: Right now, on the line of scrimmage, speaking the line

732
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, just start looking at their personnel. Turn on

733
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: their spring game in a month or two, turn them

734
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: on last year. But especially moving forward both sides, I

735
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: don't care, but especially defensive line that those are not

736
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Speaker 1: typical West Coast lines of scrimmage. Landing's known what he's

737
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: doing out there. They came from the South. That staff

738
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Speaker 1: came from the South. They went down there, their first game,

739
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: got body bagged by Georgia. They're intimately familiar with the

740
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Speaker 1: kind of bodies they need, they're getting them elsewhere in

741
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Speaker 1: the transfer portal. Head coaching Domino's got to keep an

742
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Speaker 1: eye on this. So Saban left Alabama, which freed up

743
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Speaker 1: their players to go anywhere. It doesn't look like they're

744
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: losing a ton of them to the portal. I've seen

745
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Speaker 1: a few of them, but it looks like they've done

746
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Speaker 1: a pretty good job. That nuclear of players there, done

747
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: a good job of rallying the troops. Mauri Nyblack I

748
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: think went to the portal earlier today. We saw Isaiah Bond.

749
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Speaker 1: A few guys have left, but looks like most of

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Speaker 1: them stand. Have not heard anything that would indicate to

751
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: me Caleb Downs, for example, would be leaving, and in fact,

752
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: I've heard the opposite, so we'll see. I mean, they

753
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: haven't hired a defensive coordinator yet, so never say never there.

754
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: But it looks like they're okay. However, those players still

755
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: are technically free to leave Caln de boor Leeve's Washington.

756
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: Those players free to leave a number of them have

757
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: exercised that option. Jed Fish just left Arizona today. There

758
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: are bona fide NFL players on that roster. There are

759
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: guys on the Arizona roster who would probably impact the

760
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: playoff race should they transfer to certain places. I'd prefer

761
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,479
Speaker 1: to not see it happen. I'm just saying it may

762
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: be inevitable that happens. And you know what else is

763
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Speaker 1: happening right now, Jim Harbaugh and miss like that's still

764
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: a thing. There's been so much happened this week. Michigan

765
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: won a national championship less than a week ago. It

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00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: feels like five years ago. And remember you're thinking, if

767
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: you're like me, was, Oh, Michigan's gonna if they win

768
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Speaker 1: a title, They're gonna win a title, then it's gonna

769
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Speaker 1: be Harbaugh NFL talk non stop the rest of the week.

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Speaker 1: We haven't done a single segment on it. I haven't

771
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: even mentioned it. That's how much oxygen got sucked out

772
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: of the room by the Saban stuff. But it's still there,

773
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: and it looks like he may be interviewing with NFL

774
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: teams at least one this week. So JJ McCarthy, the

775
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: quarterback there, declared for the draft today. I got a

776
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Speaker 1: number of guys declaring and having to make a decision

777
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: up there. If my point is, if Harbaugh does leave,

778
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: then that opens up all those Michigan kids with having

779
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: the ability. If you don't know what I'm talking about,

780
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: if your head coach leaves, even after the portal window closes,

781
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: there's a special window for you because your head coach

782
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: left where if you're on that roster, you can transfer

783
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Speaker 1: penalty free. Now, speaking of that, there's a thing that

784
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: I wanted to get to. I didn't know if we'd

785
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: have time in the show tonight, but we do because

786
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: we don't have a heart out, so we can go

787
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Speaker 1: as long as we want to. If you're listening to podcasts,

788
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: that weird sound was the last of my coffee being consumed.

789
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: Jerry hit me up, might as well have been a

790
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: number of you, because you've by the truckloads you've been

791
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: insinuating this colin, here's your endpoint. Jerry hit me and said, Hey,

792
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: it's funny how everyone flips out when players transfer, but

793
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: debor can abandon Washington and nobody bats an eye. Why

794
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: not treat players the same as coaches? Well, players aren't coaches. Firstly. Secondly,

795
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: did everyone flip out? Let me just hit this. Let

796
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: me just be real with you. Coaches leaving is not

797
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: the same as players leaving. I know, everyone wants to

798
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: broad stroke and everyone wants to fifty thousand foot. There

799
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: is a ton of difference between a college football player

800
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Speaker 1: and a head coach, most notably, employment is the main difference,

801
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: most notably contract versus not having a contract. But those

802
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: back up for a second. Okay, I went at it

803
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: with Walker about this today. There are like, there's like

804
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: a fifty to one ratio of people who claim everyone's

805
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: outraged about the transfer portal versus the actual number of

806
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: people who are outraged about the portal. Here's what that

807
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: sounds like. You ever seen this or you ever heard this. Oh,

808
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: everyone gets out raised about kids going in the portal,

809
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: but no one minds these coaches leaving. Where's all the outrage.

810
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: I know some people are mad about the portal. I'm

811
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: not claiming that there is no anger about it. I'm

812
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: just claiming the anger is far overblown in relation to

813
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: the amount of people who talk about it. And so

814
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: that's the first thing. The second thing is coaches don't

815
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: leave penalty free. That's the other thing that I hear

816
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: A lot of well, coaches just go across the country

817
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: penalty free. Why shouldn't players be able to do the

818
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: same US coaches don't move penalty free. Do we have

819
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: the family tweet? All right? So Pete Thammil. Last week

820
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: Nick Saban retires Pete the Mammill. Immediately post this, he says,

821
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Speaker 1: here are the buyouts for potential Alabama head coaching candidates

822
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: landing twenty million. In reality, it's higher than that Debor twelve,

823
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Speaker 1: Mili Dabbo seven point five, Franklin six, or Hill four.

824
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Speaker 1: The point is this is not penalty free movement. Just

825
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: because you don't see Greg Burn write a physical check

826
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Speaker 1: for seven point five or twelve million dollars and hand

827
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Speaker 1: it to the school who's coach he's taking doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: it didn't happen, guys. So that's the big difference. There

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Speaker 1: is language in anyone's contract in this in this business

830
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Speaker 1: that dictates what happens. If you break your contract and

831
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Speaker 1: go work for someone else, that's called a buyout. That's

832
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: what that exists for. Yeah, you can move, it won't

833
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: be without penalty. Florida State could leave the acc if

834
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Speaker 1: they wanted to, but it's not without penalty. Now, that

835
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: dollar figures a whole lot higher than taking a head coach.

836
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Speaker 1: But my point is those are employees they have a contract,

837
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Speaker 1: and therefore that's how you break a contract. Well, in

838
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: college football players they basically do move freely right now. Eventually,

839
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Speaker 1: if you transfer so many times, there's a penalty on it,

840
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: and that may go away in the not too distant future,

841
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: or maybe it's deemed irrelevant because maybe players eventually gain

842
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: employment status. You know what the argument will be. Then,

843
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: The argument then will be why can't these players move?

844
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Speaker 1: The coaches move, same argument that's made right now. When

845
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: players enter into contracts, it'll be this true freshman in

846
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: exchange for employment status, in exchange for a revenue share

847
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Speaker 1: of the TV rights of the sec you made him

848
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Speaker 1: sign a minimum of two or three years to be

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867
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869
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Speaker 1: good now. Now we're into the radical opinion portion of

931
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: the show tonight, which is moving along very swiftly because

932
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Speaker 1: the staff has to get home because a snowstorm is

933
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Speaker 1: ongoing outside. So I asked you about month and a

934
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: half ago, give me some radical opinions you have on

935
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: college football. The Trojan Blade hits us up with his

936
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: radical opinion. He said more rivalry games should be played

937
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: early in the season when both fan bases are still

938
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 1: full of hope and optimism, making those games even more intense.

939
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: I think this is a good idea. Actually, most notable

940
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: rivalry games in the last week of the season right

941
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: now Michigan, Ohio State, Bama, Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Clemson,

942
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: South Carolina, Kentucky, Louisville, And I ask, other than the

943
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: fact that they've always been played in late November, what

944
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: gets hurt moving those up? Because I would argue, I

945
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: would argue, aside from just the way traditionally it's always

946
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: been ingrained in your head, we got Thanksgiving and Rivalry

947
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: Week on top of each other. Aside from that, which

948
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: candidly I've never been a huge fan of, because it's

949
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: a distraction the week of Thanksgiving. Excuse me, Thanksgiving is

950
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: a distraction the week of rivalries. I would argue, if

951
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 1: that's the best you got, I got several counter arguments.

952
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: So the way that question was worried is very smart,

953
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: because there are years where some teams have long since

954
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: been eliminated from any kind of preseason goal, and we

955
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: got like three or four touchdown spreads on their rivalry game.

956
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,959
Speaker 1: And it's aside from those two fan bases not really

957
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: must watch TV for anyone, and one side of the

958
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: rivalry may tune out and just go sit out in

959
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: the backyard at halftime. But if you played it in September,

960
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: like if September for college football became known as rivalry month,

961
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: aside from kickoff month, it's also rivalry month, you got

962
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: no choice. Because there are very few games that have

963
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: been played, every fan base would still be full of hope.

964
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: And secondly, you don't need the rivalry games in November.

965
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: November sells itself for totally different reasons. You've got conference

966
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: races and playoff races, get the Heisman race like all

967
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: that stuff's already a draw. I think this would be

968
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: a good move because of what I just talked about.

969
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: Every one's alive, everyone's full of hope. Everyone thinks their

970
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: team can be good, even if in reality half of

971
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: you aren't gonna be good. And secondly, it immediately out

972
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: of the gate gives us tons of games to look

973
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: forward to some years. We have that anyway, But I mean,

974
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean the general public, not us, not just the diehards,

975
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: the general public. But thirdly, and I would argue maybe

976
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: most importantly, it eliminates this opportunity or possibility we have

977
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: right now of like Ohio State Michigan being played one

978
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: week and then right again the next week in the

979
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: Big Ten championship game. That's crazy, Bama Auburn. I mean,

980
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: there's a world where they play one week and then

981
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: play again in Atlanta the next week if those games

982
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: aren't moved on the schedule. And so I think that, Yeah,

983
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: it's not a perfect suggestion, but I actually think if

984
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: you prode and condent, there'd be more pros than cons

985
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: to moving those rivalry games earlier in the year. So

986
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: that's a radical opinion. We probably would not get agreement

987
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: on it, Trojan Bla, but I'm actually with you on

988
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: that now. As for the last suggestion, Josh hit us

989
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: up brilliant name and he said, I like having the

990
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: National Championship game on Monday night. Horrific take here, great name,

991
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: horrific take this is I don't even know, I'll address it.

992
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: What is there to like about playing a college football

993
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: game on Monday period? I don't even love the Labor

994
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: Day night game and that's Week one, but at least

995
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: that's regular season and it's a holiday. Like right now,

996
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: do you understand that there are Michigan fans in Traverse

997
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Speaker 1: City and sue Saint Marie and Pontiac that had to

998
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: watch their team win a national championship and wake up

999
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: and go to work six hours later last week in insanity.

1000
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: It's totally crazy. And we don't play college football on

1001
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: that day any other day of the year except the

1002
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: championship game. Why because people with reserved parking spaces who

1003
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: work in office towers in Manhattan decided that's.

1004
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 2: A good window.

1005
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: It's a great window. Almost said something bad there. I

1006
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: don't really care what those folks think, you know what

1007
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: I do care about. I care about everyone else agreeing

1008
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: Aside from Josh, I would say that is a radical, fringe,

1009
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 1: minority opinion. I think ninety percent of college football fans,

1010
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: ninety five percent of college football fans would much prefer

1011
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: a Saturday night national championship game. And then there's this

1012
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: very very small group, mainly the corporate management silver spoon types,

1013
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: who say, no, no, no, simpletons, you don't get our world.

1014
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: You don't get your world. So I want to revisit

1015
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: something and maybe you guys miss this. This full conversation

1016
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: is available on the channel. We had Joel Klatt on

1017
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: the show for the Paint State Speaker series before Christmas,

1018
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: and Clatt made some good points, but the best point

1019
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: I thought he made was about this. And so we

1020
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: were talking about the dumb things that exist in our

1021
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: sport right now. Monday night title games are among the

1022
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: very dumbest of things that exist. And instead of just

1023
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: laying out the problems, because anyone can do that, we

1024
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: wanted to explore some solutions. Take a listen to this.

1025
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 3: I will tell you this are our sport. If you

1026
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 3: really want to grow, it has a chance to grow.

1027
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 3: I think that we should think about things like bringing

1028
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: the NFL into the room, Josh. I think that we

1029
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 3: should bring them into the room and give them a

1030
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 3: cut of the revenue of the playoff. Now why why

1031
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 3: why would you do that? Well, because they hold the

1032
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 3: power of television windows throughout this entire piece of property

1033
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 3: that we call the calendar. So if you bring them in,

1034
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 3: what they're going to do is be more incentivized to

1035
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 3: give you windows that would be beneficial for your sport

1036
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 3: and for them. So let me just how about this,

1037
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 3: just like wild idea, what if the National Championship game

1038
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 3: always landed on I don't know, Josh, Wildcard weekend of

1039
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 3: the NFL Playoffs, and what if the National Championship game

1040
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 3: was always on Saturday night not Monday night, because Monday

1041
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 3: night is the dumbest thing I've ever think has seen

1042
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 3: in my life. But it's a Saturday night, and it's

1043
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 3: the third game of a football triple header that had

1044
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 3: two NFL playoff games ahead of it, and the network

1045
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 3: that did the middle NFL playoff game also did the

1046
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 3: National Championship game. And now, rather than trying to create

1047
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,479
Speaker 3: your own audience on a Monday night in the middle

1048
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 3: of January, you can take an NFL Wildcard playoff audience

1049
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 3: of thirty plus million people and jam them straight into

1050
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 3: your National Championship game. Like, why can't we do that?

1051
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 3: I think everything should be on the table in order

1052
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 3: for the betterment of the game and the growth of

1053
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 3: the game, including maybe going to the NFL and forming

1054
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 3: a bit of a partnership.

1055
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: These are beautiful eyes. It is now that right, there

1056
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: is a beautiful idea that double lead in on a Saturday.

1057
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: How wild a concept. By the way, imagine people like

1058
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: us allowed to watch college football titles decided on a Saturday.

1059
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: What kind of world is that a good one, Josh,

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Speaker 1: A good world. That's a just world, a fair world. So,

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Speaker 1: as you know, in our sport, when ideas sound too good,

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Speaker 1: sitting there saying no, nah no. That's why I hope

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Speaker 1: And by the way, wouldn't it be a wonderful thing

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Speaker 1: But no, Monday night title games are terrible. They're an abomination.

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Speaker 1: All right, we got to get out of here. Remember Tuesday.

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