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Speaker 1: Yes, it's the words More Dangerous Morning Show to Breakfast Club,

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Speaker 1: charlamagea God justs hilarious. Dj Envy is out but Low

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Speaker 1: and le Rossa is hair. And we got some special guests. Man,

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Speaker 1: they are promoting the new movie Moses to Black. We

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Speaker 1: got a Keen Barry Senior, Ya, Lena Popo Bitch and

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Speaker 1: of course the legendary Oh my EPs.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to all.

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Speaker 3: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: How you're feeling first and foremost good?

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Speaker 4: Good, feeling very good?

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Speaker 5: Nice?

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having us.

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Speaker 1: Happy, happy to have y'all man Moses to Black. Now,

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Speaker 1: I know Moses was a real person. I did a

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Speaker 1: little research. He was a fourth century saint, yeah right,

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Speaker 1: whose journey went from like violence to deep spiritual transformation.

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Speaker 2: Who was he?

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Speaker 4: He was?

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Speaker 6: I think he was like the real Robin Hood because

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Speaker 6: even when he was on his uh let's say, path

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Speaker 6: of darkness, he was truly taking care of his community,

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Speaker 6: you know, giving to the poor things of that nature.

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Speaker 6: And he came to an impast in his life where

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Speaker 6: he uh realized he had to become the change he

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Speaker 6: was seeking, which is parallel to the character that I

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Speaker 6: played Malik. He finds himself at a similar place. So

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Speaker 6: the film explores those type of themes obviously in a

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Speaker 6: contemporary setting, and.

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Speaker 2: How do you translate that like real life arc into

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Speaker 2: a modern crime drama.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's that's Yolena who wrote the film beautifully.

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Speaker 4: But you should speak to that. Yeah, well what can

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Speaker 4: I just say? First? Was really drew me. I really

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Speaker 4: fell in love with the saint because of his incredible

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Speaker 4: courage and humility. I mean, this is the man who

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Speaker 4: was all the way on one side, he was a

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Speaker 4: notorious gang leader that was known for his brutal violence.

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Speaker 4: People were fearing feared of him. And basically he not

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Speaker 4: only abandons at the moment when you head the light

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Speaker 4: within you know, not only that he abandons the ways,

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Speaker 4: but he goes on this journey of a true freedom

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Speaker 4: that achieves that the fruits that this true freedom wore

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Speaker 4: through a lot of repentance and sketic work was this

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Speaker 4: basically ability to face Martyr Thom with joy, and that

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Speaker 4: to me was like, this was an incredible man. That

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Speaker 4: to have that kind of courage to say I lived

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Speaker 4: by the sword, now I'm going to die by the sword.

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Speaker 4: And this is for me this is the way I

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Speaker 4: want to go, and I want to glorify my Lord

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Speaker 4: and Savior in that way. So this is something that

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Speaker 4: really kind of grabbed me. So I thought about this

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Speaker 4: for a long time, and I was trying to put

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Speaker 4: the story together in a fourth century. But for some reason,

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Speaker 4: whether you call it writer's block or whatever, something was

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Speaker 4: not quite there. I felt like you wouldn't do justice

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Speaker 4: to the same until I had epiphany. I was on

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Speaker 4: an island of Evia and I saw literally Chicago Grandmother.

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Speaker 4: I saw scenes of the movie in front of my eyes,

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Speaker 4: and I and I said to myself and I no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: And I said to myself, So I was I was sober,

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Speaker 4: but maybe you're not sober when you're in the prayer.

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe that's the meditation, you know. So so what

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Speaker 4: happens was like, you know, I said, Okay, now I

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Speaker 4: have a movie. But then I was like, oh, great,

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Speaker 4: but what do I know about Chicago and the gang life?

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Speaker 4: And that's and that's where I knew that if I

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Speaker 4: had to go to Chicago, and by the providence of God,

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Speaker 4: I believe I met this incredible gentleman Reginald king Berry,

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Speaker 4: whom I went to respectfully to ask a blessing if

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Speaker 4: I can make a movie like this, if this movie

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Speaker 4: would help his community, and I can have him give

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Speaker 4: you a little bit of a story of how that happened.

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Speaker 4: I mean's without him this wouldn't have happened.

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Speaker 7: Well, the facts of the matter is a great friend

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Speaker 7: of man, Alex Pacios, who was the head of Center Space.

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Speaker 7: She obviously had got in contact with him, and he

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Speaker 7: to contact me and to be real with you. I

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Speaker 7: was just going to have lunch just to be cordial

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Speaker 8: Lady off.

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Speaker 7: And so again during our lunch, you know, she has

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Speaker 7: in the street life, you know, I thought that was

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Speaker 8: You know, it's not just as easy as people put

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Speaker 7: As guys wake up up one morning, you want to

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Speaker 7: be a gang member, you want to says you want

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Speaker 7: a purpose perspective, you know, I am a preacher's son,

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Speaker 7: and so I was raised in the Baptist church, you know,

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Speaker 7: to say that you don't need nothing material here. You

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Speaker 7: you're getting heaven. Then you're gonna have a street to go.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, well, listen, my next door neighbor getting money

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Speaker 7: flight you did, you know what I'm saying. So over

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Speaker 7: the years, I rose to the ranks of the folk

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Speaker 7: on the hustlers and became the chief for myself. And

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Speaker 7: during that time right there again, we was what they

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Speaker 7: got eighteen years in the penitentiary. And so while I

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Speaker 7: had an epiphany. You know how I need to change

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Speaker 7: my life because a whole lot of people. Now that

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Speaker 7: I've risen to the top Chelina of this organization, perhaps

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Speaker 7: the founders had it when they was giving breakfast and

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Speaker 7: when I was emancipated in two thousand and six, I

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Speaker 7: became like brothers from another mother. And you know, having

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Speaker 2: What was the turning point in the conversation with you, Elena?

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Speaker 1: Like, you know, you go in thinking I'm a blow

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Speaker 1: with her, Like, what was that one thing that made

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Speaker 8: When she said she wanted to catch the real essence

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Speaker 7: And mentioned, you know, hearing homage to a great brother

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Speaker 7: who I love, said, you know, the police put all

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Speaker 7: types of madness on his name. When you talk about showing, uh,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and for you, Elena, when you talk about this,

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Speaker 1: you know, the spiritual themes of Moses the Black but

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Speaker 1: then Chicago being Chicago, how did you balance those elements?

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Speaker 2: Sort of film felt authentic to both for us.

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Speaker 4: Well, uh, I think I went after the truth, the

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Speaker 4: hardcore truth of the things with the story, which I

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Speaker 4: mean the story of Saint Moses the Black is pretty straightforward,

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Speaker 4: and I didn't deviate from I feel that I that

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Speaker 4: but it was actually that's a good question, because that

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Speaker 4: what I decided, if I was going to bring him

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Speaker 4: Saint Moses had to become the repentance and redemption of

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Speaker 4: our main character. So then I had to tell a

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Speaker 4: so through the eyes of our main character, people hopefully

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Speaker 4: And this is really made for those that suffer the most,

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Speaker 4: people that are in the bondies. They don't believe they

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Speaker 7: I did it.

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Speaker 9: I think a lot of what I saw in the

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Speaker 10: We were talking about this earlier, was the message that

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Speaker 10: there's already power in you, but you might not recognize

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Speaker 10: of us, especially black community wise, it is religion that

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Speaker 6: I'm glad you said that, because you know, whether you're

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Speaker 6: religious or not. When we use these words like faith

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Speaker 6: and when we use words like redemption, people always attribute

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Speaker 6: them to religion or spirituality. But there's a different angle

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Speaker 6: as well. Even if you're a science based thinker, you

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Speaker 6: And when we use words like redemption, you know, if

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Speaker 6: That's a form of redemption. You're redeeming yourself if you

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Speaker 6: only saying that to say it's not just from a

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Speaker 10: In this movie, you guys use a lot of the

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Speaker 10: things from today, Like you mentioned, like there's a lot

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Speaker 10: of like going live on social media and the chat

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Speaker 10: and all that stuff. Right, Omar, you've had the like

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Speaker 10: the career path where we've seen you in so many

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Speaker 10: different versions of like what the streets look like. Talk

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Speaker 10: about that transition just as an actor, but also what

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Speaker 10: you're teaching through your art when you say yes to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it's it's a reflection of the now right

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Speaker 6: and and kind of from my elder.

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Speaker 3: If you will, perspective perspective.

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Speaker 6: You know, what we depicted in the movie is like

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Speaker 6: the the insanity of of you know, how social media

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Speaker 6: can be, how people take something that's virtual and bring

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Speaker 6: they take real actions based on things that are just

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, hyperbole. Like, So it's it's

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Speaker 6: it's just I guess it's more pervasive than when we

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Speaker 8: Like you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: But that would travel kind of slower, you know, now

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Speaker 6: there's there's not time to like process and like critically

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Speaker 9: Like, because it's different ways to look at it.

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Speaker 1: But you know, people that actually know him in his

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Speaker 7: I'm saying, who embells them hundreds of millions of dollars?

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Speaker 7: He let them out of prison. But somebody understand me,

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Speaker 5: How difficult is that though?

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Speaker 5: Because when you on the streets, you got well, when

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: What are the pressures?

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Speaker 5: Been and share your experience even when you were incarcerated,

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Speaker 5: Like was that any type of pressure being in there

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Speaker 7: To be honest with you, I had several attempts on

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Speaker 7: And so again that tent was made of my life

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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: But fortunately God put a cover over me. And again,

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Speaker 10: And you feel that in the movie though, like the

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Speaker 2: I'm hearing? We got some disturbing news about this movie.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, listen, me tell you something.

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Speaker 7: The reality of the fact is, you know, the powers

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Speaker 4: Two days before the release, never unheard of, a lot

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Speaker 2: That we made the movie for.

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Speaker 6: We made the movie for the community, and the actively

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Speaker 6: And at the end of the day, you know, the

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Speaker 6: And that's why we hear unapologetically standing for the power

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Speaker 7: The truth of the matter is Cook County has the

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Speaker 2: Go to prison.

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Speaker 7: And you have people who made a living of building

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: I still had to sit there languishing and trying to

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, saying Listen, yeah, put them

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Speaker 8: And the truth of.

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Speaker 7: The matter is again, you know, my family has been

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Speaker 8: You know, it resonated.

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Speaker 7: It resonated, and I can say, you know what I'm

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Speaker 1: The reasoning did they give it? Is it about rais?

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Speaker 4: Like listen to this, this is you're gonna laugh now.

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Speaker 4: The reason is it wasn't pre sold enough. Who pre

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Speaker 6: What damn people brought out whole theaters to see the film,

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Speaker 7: And again, I guess they say they didn't want to

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Speaker 5: That, damn so money don't even make sense. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but they cry how they care about the communities. Right,

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Speaker 7: Listen, I mean people was crying, you know what I'm saying, mothers, daughters, brothers.

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Speaker 7: it built the whole industry around this prison, you did.

440
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Speaker 7: And so when we shut it down, people was out

441
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 7: there literally with their signs, don't take our prison away, madness.

442
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Speaker 2: That's your question.

443
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Speaker 1: Know what's the weight of playing a character who had

444
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Speaker 1: so much darkness around him, but then the weight of

445
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 1: having tacit. I guess powers that be trying to suppress,

446
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 1: suppress the film, the story you're trying to tell.

447
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 6: That's a great question for me. I think you've heard

448
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 6: me say this before. It's like, it's we're fighting in this, uh,

449
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 6: the war of our lifetime, and my art is my

450
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 6: weapon and choice. So for me, it comes with the territory,

451
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 6: and you know, it just fuels me more. It just

452
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 6: lets me know I'm on the right path. Because when

453
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 6: you talk about like the you know, I've talked about

454
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 6: this before, the power of imagery, the power of storytelling.

455
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 6: What art does for us not only is the community,

456
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 6: but just as human beings, it just inspires us and

457
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 6: motivates us. We can it's cathartic, it can be right.

458
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 6: And so when you're when you're a part of a

459
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 6: project like this, it's it's all meant for entertainment, but

460
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 6: entertainment is relative to your perspective. Right you can go

461
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 6: key key, or you can go have some conversations and

462
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 6: apply some things that actually help you shift something in

463
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 6: your life for the better. And so for me, the

464
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 6: weight of that, I'm ready for it. All this is

465
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 6: this is I feel. I don't feel I'm living in

466
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 6: my purpose. I think when Elena and I first met,

467
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 6: I said to her, I understand why this opportunity is

468
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 6: before me right now. I totally understand why this is

469
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 6: all happening right now in this moment, and I'm ready.

470
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 6: So I'm ready.

471
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Speaker 9: What happened a moment ago.

472
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Speaker 5: I was about to ask Yolena, is this the first

473
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 5: movie that you've done that has ever gotten a response

474
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 5: like this, because you know you've done films before.

475
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 4: It was the long before Call Man of God, and

476
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 4: that film was done in Greece. It was about a

477
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 4: very popular saint. The reason I did that I had

478
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 4: a human approach to it. This was a man who

479
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 4: was ustly prosecuted his whole life. I mean prosecution. If

480
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 4: you see his prosecution from within the church and what

481
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 4: he had to go through and how he dealt with it,

482
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 4: we all might think our problems all of a sudden

483
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 4: shrink and again seeing that kind of story and seeing

484
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 4: his humility and the love that stemmed from that was

485
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 4: the reason I did the film. Before the film came out,

486
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 4: they started in Greece. It was it was a chaost.

487
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 4: They started to try to stop and talk about the

488
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 4: Greek country, that's the orthodox Christian country that you would

489
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 4: think that there would be a problem. Oh, Greek Film

490
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 4: Center would not even give a penny. They said that

491
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 4: we were going to be fired if you even attempt

492
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 4: to do that. And they said only one grandmother with

493
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 4: a grandchild will see this movie and end up being

494
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 4: the most successful film of the year that year. And

495
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 4: I don't think they've ever forgiven him for this. So

496
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, I'm not you know, you see

497
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 4: the thing with me, I'm not a propagandist. I like

498
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 4: to tell the truth. Yes, I personally have faith, that's

499
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 4: my thing. If it wasn't from my faith, I wouldn't

500
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 4: be alive today. So I thank Oud for everything first,

501
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 4: but I don't push that on anybody else. I just

502
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 4: like to tell the truth so people can find courage

503
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 4: and understand that they can live lives even while we

504
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 4: are in this world, it's filled with suffering, injustice and pain.

505
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 4: That you can see that there were people that gained

506
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 4: that joy that is not of this world. And it's

507
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 4: only that joy that can make you truly free, you know.

508
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 4: And this is why I make these movies. And that's

509
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 4: the only reason I don't. I'm not a I don't

510
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 4: push any agendas or anybody. And maybe that's about them

511
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 4: because it's not. You can't put it in the category, Oh,

512
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 4: it's a faith based film, so let's just laugh about it,

513
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying. But it's actually it's

514
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 4: very hardcore. It's very truthful. And maybe that's why that

515
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 4: that's an area where it makes people uncomfortable.

516
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: You said something very important just now. You say joy

517
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: can make you free, and I always feel that way.

518
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: That's why they're always trying to steal all joy from

519
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: joy killers.

520
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 6: Is the truth, the truth. The truth doesn't have an agenda.

521
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 8: It just is.

522
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 6: It just is right, unapologetically so and the the you know,

523
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 6: the the all of the resources, that's the word that

524
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 6: not just our community, just impoverished communities in general. Need

525
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 6: don't always come in the form of they come in

526
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 6: different forms. Sometimes it's clothing, Sometimes it's food, sometimes it's finances.

527
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 6: Most times it's art in whatever form. If you just

528
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 6: study history history I'm talking about for thousands of years

529
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 6: most times, because that's the thing that essentially is a

530
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 6: free thing. You can see the person saying, you can

531
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,239
Speaker 6: see them dance, but what are they singing about? Oh

532
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 6: that's a story about. Oh that's kind of Oh, and

533
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 6: that's how they turn and found their joy. You find

534
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 6: a smile in the in in the darkness, right, That's.

535
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 3: What keeps us sing and it brings you joy exactly.

536
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: I mean, you can think about putting the cardboard box

537
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: on the on the concrete. You don't have no money

538
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: to do that, But just break dance, you know what

539
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean. Somebody got one cossette tape. You put that

540
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: song on, everybody singing it, you know what I mean?

541
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: Like that's joy. Ye, that's what art does.

542
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,719
Speaker 10: What happens next though, because like this is happening, right,

543
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 10: But is this is this is there a legal fight

544
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 10: that you guys can have or like.

545
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 4: Well, I think the best thing is for people to

546
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 4: go and see this film, right, And it's going to

547
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 4: depend on that because we still have quite a lot

548
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 4: of theaters, even though they try to. You know, what

549
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 4: do you if you want to stop the movie, what

550
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 4: do what do you do? You you mess with the

551
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 4: opening weekend. I mean, take any other movie out there

552
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 4: and try to do that. That's exactly. But we managed

553
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 4: to recover some things. And I think that if people

554
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 4: go see the movie, they don't want you to see

555
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 4: I don't know why they don't want you to see

556
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 4: a film that they will uplift you, that will tell

557
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 4: you you are great. You can come out of the bondage.

558
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 11: You know, you can't.

559
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 4: You can't keep you. You can't keep you in the

560
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 4: bondage forever.

561
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 11: You know.

562
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 4: It's like there's a way out, you know. And then

563
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 4: this is this is go support this.

564
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 5: People can't make noise. That's the type of thing that

565
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 5: people make noise about. Stuff is taken away, you know,

566
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 5: for no it's the reason, but no reason at all. Basically,

567
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 5: you know, it's a film that the youth, in my opinion,

568
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 5: needs to see. I mean definitely for adults, but the

569
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 5: youth need to see. Our young boys and our young

570
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 5: girls of the world need to see it.

571
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Speaker 7: It's very impressionable and I'd like to just come in

572
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 7: Elena and Omar. You know, because again haven't had the

573
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 7: conversation and talk about my life with Elina. She was

574
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 7: able to pin it on paper and bed to Omar

575
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 7: and he was able to, you know, morph into that

576
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 7: person because Malik was a real, real person, said was

577
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 7: a real person. You know, Mike was a real person.

578
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 7: He did know what I'm saying. These thes men's came

579
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 7: in and did they think? You know, I seen this

580
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 7: guy go through the lamentation that I felt, you know

581
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 7: what I'm saying while I was languishing in the super

582
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 7: maximum prison. You know, again, I was having a spiritual

583
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 7: battle about you understand me the things my father had

584
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 7: instilled into me versus what the world had showed me.

585
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 7: You see what I'm saying, and there's a dichotomy there.

586
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 7: And so again just to see him take on that

587
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 7: personality and morph into it, you know, I got a

588
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 7: world of respect for bro Man.

589
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 5: Was it hard for you to embody what that Chicago

590
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 5: accent would sound like? That she was New York.

591
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 6: That was a challenging, you know. Shout out to Denise Woods,

592
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 6: who I worked with it an incredible dialect coach. That

593
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 6: was I just didn't want it to impede on anything,

594
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 6: like you know, you say one word and the next word.

595
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 6: But it was very challenging because that's Chicago. There's an accent,

596
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 6: but then there's the south side, west side, north side,

597
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 6: and then all these little It was very challenging.

598
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: I wonder, Elena, why do you think God showed you Chicago.

599
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 4: You know that's a good thing. I was on an

600
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 4: island of I was in Greece when that happened. This

601
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 4: is a crazy story because there's so many providential moments

602
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 4: in my life, and in this story, I let me

603
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 4: share this one. I was in it because I was

604
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,479
Speaker 4: struggling with the story for a long time, and I

605
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 4: was on an island called Eva that one of the

606
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 4: in a monastery in minded to spend the night by

607
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 4: this elder who wanted to ask me because men of

608
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 4: God did so well in Greece, and they wanted to

609
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 4: ask me if I can make a film about this

610
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 4: other saint. And I said, I never even thought of

611
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 4: making films that saints. I just simply read these stories

612
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 4: and and they resonated with me. So if unless I

613
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 4: have something honest in my heart, I can't express it,

614
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 4: then I'm the wrong person. So he said, no, no, no, no,

615
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 4: just listen to me. Just sit here tonight and pray.

616
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I So, so I sat there, I

617
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 4: put a blanket. It was cold and and and and

618
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 4: I'm I was a little bit silly because what I'm

619
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 4: supposed to ask? Oh, can I get a message for

620
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 4: a film? And I'm gonna pray something like that? That's

621
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 4: what I want. I usually pray about. And so I said,

622
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 4: so I said, there, well, I pray for humility for

623
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 4: my brothers and sisters for you know, I don't know

624
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 4: I I I pray for God to show me my

625
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 4: own sins and never to say sin of another. You know,

626
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 4: I tried to have. I want to get that piece

627
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 4: for like Saint Moses, I can at the end of

628
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 4: my life, I can.

629
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 11: I can.

630
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 4: I can smile when I leave this one. So so

631
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: that that that's where I like to be. I know

632
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 4: that's a long journey. That's maybe too much to ask,

633
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 4: but forgive me. So so, so what what what I

634
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 4: was gonna say? I was there and and because naturally

635
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 4: Saint Moses was in my mind, because I'm like, why

636
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 4: I cannot tell this story in the fourth century I'm

637
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 4: doing in town for two years, and something is playing

638
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: with me until all of a sudden, I see literally

639
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 4: in front of me Chicago funeral grandmother. That's like, is

640
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: this a And then I'm like, well, I have a

641
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,959
Speaker 4: movie now. Like so I was super happy by the

642
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 4: time I got home it was in Athens. But then

643
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, but how I'm gonna tell a

644
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 4: story of Chicago. I gotta go and meet somebody and

645
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 4: and and I and thank god I met this amazing

646
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 4: man here that that without whom and his brothers and sisters,

647
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be able to do this. We were able

648
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 4: to to really put this together. And yeah, so that's

649
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 4: how this honestly came about. Somebody might think you're out

650
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: of it, but I told you the truth. So so

651
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 4: that's that's that's how these things come.

652
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 6: And and uh, it's not to cut you up, but

653
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 6: it's a beautiful thing because she Icrgo is Chicago, but

654
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 6: it's also a microcosm for the sort of every hood

655
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 6: in the country.

656
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 8: Right.

657
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 6: It could be Memphis, it could be Houston, it could

658
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 6: be you know what I mean, where these where these

659
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 6: situations are happening at a rampant pace. But it's perfect

660
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 6: because Chicago is Chicago sort of the epicenter right now

661
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 6: of like gang culture and that whole sort of mentality.

662
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: Whenever they want to demonize niggas, that's the first place

663
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: of conservatives like.

664
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: The name.

665
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 8: With quick about Chicago. I mean, I'm a world traveler,

666
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 8: right and everywhere I go. You know what I'm saying.

667
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 7: When you mentioned Chicago, they glorify the fact of al

668
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 7: capolon as if that gangstasm stopped with al capolone.

669
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.

670
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 7: I mean, foe has been around since sixty seven, you did,

671
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 7: and we started off again being the Wheelcox Boys protecting

672
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 7: four Corners on the West side of Chicago where Polish

673
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 7: and Italians. Remember, while Luther King came to the West

674
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 7: Side about unfair housing because we couldn't move to the

675
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 7: West Side back in the sixties. And so that's where

676
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 7: the Wheel Coins Boys was formulated to protect us, our

677
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 7: families from these races Italians and Polos who didn't want

678
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 7: us on the West side of Chicago. And it more

679
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 7: from Wheel Coins Boys to four Corners, get the four Corners,

680
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 7: and then it became hustlers.

681
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 5: So she prayed for God to show her Chicago and

682
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 5: you show her all black.

683
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 4: And then she came, no, no, West Side.

684
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 5: Okay, so what blacks depth?

685
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 4: It's Pulaski Road road and I want to say, can

686
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: I can I?

687
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 2: Can I please?

688
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 4: Can I say something? Pulaski South Pulaski Road right west.

689
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 4: That's a hood and a lot of people ask me,

690
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 4: well were you You know there are people that have

691
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 4: these things like, oh, we're a little bit afraid to

692
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 4: go there, and I'm like, I'm like, first of all,

693
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: I'm Serbian. I grew up in the hood. That's number one.

694
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 4: Well you know so so, and I must say that

695
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 4: I and I if I say this from my heart,

696
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 4: I will literally tear up someone to try to keep

697
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 4: it back. I've never felt more alive mm hmm than

698
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 4: going on the west to sixty two South Pulaski Road

699
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 4: his office and working with with with people of the

700
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 4: West side of Chicago. I I would never I could

701
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 4: never be grateful enough for the joy that you have

702
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 4: given me. And I I'm sorry, guys.

703
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 7: I felt she earned the name Chief Man Chief because

704
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 7: again she was able to give a man that's the

705
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 7: class she took guys who was literally on the corners

706
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 7: selling drugs, guys who was in the rough house trying

707
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 7: to rap in the hallway to their peers. You did,

708
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, and literally put them in

709
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 7: front of the world. Had enough trust in these guys,

710
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 7: put them in front of the world. I mean there

711
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 7: was there was thesbians there such as oh Ma. Then

712
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 7: she took some rappers and trusted them, you know what

713
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 7: I'm saying, to come out of the rap personality and

714
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 7: become thesbians. And these guys encompassed these personalities. And I

715
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 7: was right there with my foot down make sure they

716
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 7: kept it authentic.

717
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 8: Read for it.

718
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 6: Sorry, I was just gonna say sorry about this. Lene

719
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 6: as our soul sister, and she was the skipper right

720
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 6: And and for those because there will be those. White

721
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 6: woman is that she's from the She from a wars

722
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 6: On country. And when you sit and you talk with

723
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 6: her and you discover her intentions coming from the right

724
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 6: place and that ultimate place where that color and all

725
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 6: of that doesn't exist. We we are.

726
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: It's the energy.

727
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 6: It's the energy that's really driving us really, so we're

728
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 6: able to articulate and have the and and and create

729
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 6: the conversation. But the right conversations and coming from the

730
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 6: right place, so to to to to piggyback on what

731
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 6: King was just talking about. It's like, nah, she went

732
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 6: boost to the ground, you know, in the mud, and

733
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 6: was then was comfortable because the people could feel that energy,

734
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. They could feel that energy,

735
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 6: energy emanating for her from her. So everyone felt that

736
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 6: it was a safe space, you know what I mean,

737
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 6: to give and to be vulnerable and to expose those

738
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 6: parts of themselves.

739
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: Said, you never felt more alive, Lena.

740
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: I want to I want to hear more about that,

741
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: because a lot of times people talk about places, they

742
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: talk about people they never talked to.

743
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: So you actually went there and spoke to these individuals.

744
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: What made you feel so alive?

745
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 8: There's so much.

746
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 4: Love, there's so much humility, and maybe maybe there's a

747
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 4: lot of instruction, but how people they are handled pain

748
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 4: and lost. I mean, anybody else can be ashamed of

749
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 4: if they saw that kind of love and that kind

750
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 4: of humility. And I always say, like when we sometimes

751
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 4: I have both on my boys there in sports and

752
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: any any serious athletes will tell you that you're as

753
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 4: good as your worst day. So if people want to

754
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: see what their souls look like they can go visit

755
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 4: those inner cities.

756
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 8: I mean again, they impressed me.

757
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 4: And the heart you'll feel alive. I mean maybe because

758
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 4: I I love God, I'm a believer, so so maybe

759
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 4: also that's the connection. People have faith there because that's

760
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 4: all they have. And I know what it means to

761
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 4: have only faith, and that's how to live by. And

762
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 4: I don't consider that a curse. I consider that a

763
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 4: gift because when we are weak, we are strong. And

764
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 4: this is I feel where we connected and and people

765
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 4: opened up and they gave me so much love and

766
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 4: trusted me and I and that gave me courage because

767
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 4: we did not have all the funds. We did not

768
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 4: have whisk aalif, but we did not have fifty cent

769
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 4: on my apps. There was nobody there, nobody, nobody. We

770
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 4: were just thinking, there's going to be maybe one of

771
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 4: the rappers going to wrap these lines, and and little

772
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 4: by little things were happening, and it was beautiful to

773
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 4: see how this and and and then I couldn't let

774
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: the community down. There were moments when it looked like

775
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 4: it was not going to happen, but I just ca

776
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 4: it all to just do the justice to this beautiful

777
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 4: people that you know that they're reminded me that it's

778
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 4: those moments that matter when you when you feel joyful

779
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 4: in a lie.

780
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: The fifty on this film, Yeah, yeah.

781
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 6: Fifties a EP and and again I think we were

782
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 6: all drawn to the project for the right reasons. And

783
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 6: you know, fifty gon do his thing, but but he

784
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 6: was and he came, he came down, He was hands

785
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 6: on and as the pieces came together, and I think

786
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 6: he definitely felt the energy and obviously felt that this

787
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 6: story is important and necessary.

788
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 9: Did fifty bring you in or did?

789
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 4: Like?

790
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 9: How how did that work?

791
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 4: Like?

792
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 9: What was the time that she said that you didn't

793
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 9: have anybody at first? So how did that timeline work?

794
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 4: First Wiz came on board and this was again can

795
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 4: I say this because I maybe I I was, I was,

796
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: I was in Greece and I knew, God, we need

797
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 4: a name. I mean like like this is this is

798
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go down. Well we need we need to

799
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 4: get something going here. So I was this prayer that

800
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 4: it's like call specific person and I'm like, why would

801
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 4: I call this person? And I'm thinking, wait a second.

802
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 4: This person had a fundraising and with Khalifa was doing

803
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 4: the fundraising in Pittsburgh for Pittsburgh Still I'm like, Okay,

804
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 4: well I'm going to try. So I called this lady

805
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: and she was like, that's a great idea. And two

806
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 4: weeks later with he says, yeah, I want to read

807
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 4: the script. And he ended up reading the script. And

808
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 4: when after we had a script to show and he

809
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 4: just said this, he was like, I'm in. I mean,

810
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 4: this is going to speak to people and I and

811
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 4: so he was the first person who came on board.

812
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 4: So that helped us, I believe then to go out

813
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 4: and make out the offers. And I'm so grateful that

814
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 4: I had to wait for Omar Apps to come and

815
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 4: and and meet with me in person, which is rarely

816
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 4: everybody wants to meet on zoom. I'm like, can I

817
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 4: just look somebody in the eye and see, especially if

818
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 4: I'm I'm the film director, I want to see who

819
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 4: I'm working with. Smoking face, we were, we were we

820
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 4: saw each other on the zoom first, but then when

821
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 4: we saw each other face to face, there was something

822
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 4: else he said that gave me courage. And this is

823
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 4: it is amazing to hear it from wiz z Goes.

824
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 4: You know what Elena I'm on board with this one

825
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 4: takes a year, two years, three years. I'm like looking

826
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 4: at him, like, Okay, this is very encouraging. You know,

827
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 4: you know this is coming from it. This is because

828
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 4: you know, whoever is meant to be part of this

829
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 4: project will be who is not They're going to fall off.

830
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 4: And I remember those words from him, and that also

831
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 4: gave me strength. And then I met Omar and you

832
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 4: watched my previous film, right, and and he felt very connected.

833
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,959
Speaker 4: I mean he can speak. You may yourself on that.

834
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 6: And then you know, fifty came on board after that.

835
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 6: But you know, Quavo skill of baby, like you said,

836
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 6: Deontay Wilder, like as as everyone came together, we knew

837
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 6: the assignment and and we all got to it, you know.

838
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,959
Speaker 6: And I think we created something really special that will

839
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 6: speak to the community that it needs to but also

840
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 6: other communities. It's for everybody.

841
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: So so, so what what internal or even external forces

842
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: were in the script that you found most compelling?

843
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 3: Well, for me, I did.

844
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 6: I was unfamiliar with the story of Moses the Ethiopian

845
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 6: Moses the Black which I was kind of aggy at.

846
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 6: But so much history is lost to us, right, so

847
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 6: to that his story. I think Elena spoke to this earlier,

848
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 6: which it was simple, but it was so profound for me.

849
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 6: And then just based on the last few years of

850
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 6: you know, personally, things that I've been dealing with internally,

851
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 6: you know, I just understood it felt as much as

852
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 6: it felt like in an assignment, it kind of felt

853
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 6: like a gift. It was a reward for the for

854
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 6: the work that I've done, my own personal redemption, you know.

855
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 6: It was like, here's an opportunity to share that with

856
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 6: the world, you know what I mean. And so I

857
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 6: just put a thousand of percent of myself into the

858
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 6: the piece, the character, all of it. I mean, we

859
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 6: worked on the.

860
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 4: Script and very closely. I mean, Omar is just impeccable. Yeah,

861
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 4: very is amazing, definitely, and it helped helped the script

862
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 4: be become even better.

863
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 10: I don't know if you want to talk about it

864
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 10: at all, but you mentioned the personal work that you

865
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 10: were doing, I know with Cole read too like that

866
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 10: film was very like even watching you talk about it,

867
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 10: I watched your interview with any Martinez, and it seems

868
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 10: like going from actor Omar Apps to the seat that

869
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 10: you sitting now where you're acting but you're also writing directing.

870
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 10: There's I mean, I feel like there's always Clay, there's

871
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 10: always been purpose with you, but I don't know, it

872
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 10: just seems a little bit more into personal now, like

873
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 10: it's connected to something a little bit deeper. And are

874
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 10: we feeling that personal work that you've done.

875
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I think that at this at this point in

876
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 6: my career, but not only it's my life, right like

877
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 6: you know, we always hear it saying like, yo, it's

878
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 6: it's personal, it's business, it's personal. My my view is

879
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 6: all personal because you one person that has a life

880
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 6: to live. So everything that we do, every how what

881
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 6: am I doing? Who am I doing it with? And

882
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 6: like and why are we doing it? You know, that's

883
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 6: what's driving me. So if I can't if I'm not

884
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 6: if I'm not feeling that, I don't want to say void,

885
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 6: if I'm not feeling that that space within myself where

886
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 6: I'm giving, that's what it's really about. What am I giving?

887
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 6: Because I you know, I plan to at least live

888
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 6: to one hundred, but you know, when it's my time,

889
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 6: the things that my actions and the things that I've

890
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 6: been a part of will live on after me. What

891
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 6: are they giving at those points twenty years from now,

892
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 6: fifty years from now, one hundred years from now, one

893
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty, two hundred whatever. If people come back

894
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 6: and look at what you guys do every day, what

895
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 6: can they glean from that conversation, this conversation, you know

896
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 6: what I mean, and so again in this in this

897
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 6: format in terms of and it's a part of my

898
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 6: evolution started out as I really thought, I as a writer,

899
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 6: but you know, me as an actor, and it's like

900
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 6: evolving to the other components of telling stories. It has

901
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 6: to be, it has to all be aligned in terms

902
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 6: of purpose. I think you can relate to that, you

903
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 6: know what I mean.

904
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm sitting there thinking even about you.

905
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm just like yo, even in the night these it

906
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: felt like all your movies were purpose for at least,

907
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: like whether it was Juice, whether it was higher.

908
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 2: Learning, whether it was would, whether it.

909
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: Was into deep loving basketball. I can take life lessons

910
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: from every single other movies.

911
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: I'm just like you.

912
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't feel like you was, you know,

913
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: working with intention then I did, okay.

914
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 3: But sort of because I was so young, it was

915
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 3: working with I was working with the opportunities versus creating

916
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 3: the opportunity being a part of creating the opportunity, right.

917
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 6: It's like it's like, you know, you got these are

918
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 6: the choices, and I'm like, all right, I'll pick that one.

919
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 3: You know that sort of aligns with my mission of like.

920
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 6: That's a compliment of what you just said.

921
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 3: By the way, social coming up age.

922
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 9: Five years old now right.

923
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, and even your newer films because the fatal Affair

924
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 5: with Nielong, I'm telling you, I had a guy that

925
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 5: was stalking me, and when you was outside of that

926
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 5: woman's house, it took me back to one somebody was

927
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 5: outside of my house. I was like I needed to

928
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 5: watch this.

929
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 8: Yeah.

930
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 5: Life lessons.

931
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, life lessons. And I mean that's ultimately.

932
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 3: You don't mean this is great?

933
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, never lessons.

934
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 7: That was another important phase that you brought to the table,

935
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 7: you know, as a theologian. You know, she was enlightening

936
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 7: African Americans about their true history, you know. And how

937
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 7: again we had a great hand in putting together the

938
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 7: twenty seven books of the Bible.

939
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: You know.

940
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely I had no knowledge of this because I

941
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 8: thought was the one who.

942
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 4: Brought it absolutely well. Obviously the Apostles, yes, exactly, not

943
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 4: an accident. I mean, obviously we all know apostles wrote

944
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 4: the Bible, but at the time it wasn't. There was

945
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 4: no such thing as a vibe. There many many letters

946
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 4: written that were read in different churches at the time.

947
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 4: Then the church went to a prosecution. There were a

948
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 4: lot of martyrs that spilled blood. So with today we

949
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 4: can have what we have. But this is a fact.

950
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 4: I'm just going to read something I read at the

951
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 4: premiere in Chicago because I wanted people to be aware.

952
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 4: It's basically the list of the twenty seven books of

953
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 4: the New Testament were compiled by a tenacious of the Great, who,

954
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 4: by the way, by birth is African man from Egypt,

955
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 4: and he was a bishop of Alexandria, which was the

956
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 4: center of Christianity, not Rome Africa. This is a historical fact,

957
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 4: and in his letter in three hundred and sixty seven AD,

958
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 4: he basically put these twenty seven books as books that

959
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 4: he believed were really written by the apostles that people

960
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 4: should read. And then that whole thing was ratified by

961
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 4: the Synod of Hippo in three hundred ninety three held

962
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 4: in modern day Annaba in Algeria today, and later the

963
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 4: Councils of Carthriage in three hundred and ninety seven and

964
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 4: four hundred nineteen, held in close to Tunisia, Africa. Additionally,

965
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 4: the Council of Rome in three hundred and eighty two

966
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 4: also played a part in affirming the canon, but the

967
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 4: two main Canons councils were held in Africa, and they

968
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 4: were the first ones to accept the canon of the

969
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 4: New Testament with its twenty seven books that are recognized

970
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 4: today as the New Testament.

971
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 8: Wow.

972
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 4: So every time you pick up a Bible were the

973
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 4: black men and women from Africa were the ones basically

974
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 4: in the fourth century of Alexandria that saved Christianity from destruction,

975
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 4: not Rome, and the African men and women played the

976
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 4: most significant role in preserving Christian faith. So that's something

977
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 4: that has been best kept secret in the West, and

978
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 4: maybe it's time to be revealed.

979
00:50:54,560 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: Take that Umar, Listen, We're gonna have a screening for

980
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: Moses to Black Eddie, Yeah, showing that uh one of

981
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: the MC theaters AMC twenty five in New York call him.

982
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: That's what we've be using. Were gonna talk about. I'm

983
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 2: about a theater for Moses to Black.

984
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 11: Thank you.

985
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 4: For having You're you're giving us a platform.

986
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 5: That's wonderful real quick, yes.

987
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 6: Wow, I gotta work one.

988
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 5: Why did it take you so long to tell Canan

989
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 5: that you.

990
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 6: Was his father? Oh you're getting into that, yes, because

991
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 6: she was making.

992
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 9: Me mad episode of that episode.

993
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, you're getting sick every time you

994
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 5: coffee get tell him, Hey, look I'm your father.

995
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 6: You know know that's it. That's that's some hard dudes

996
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 6: to break, you know what I mean. Yeah, you had to,

997
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 6: you know, get comfortable, had to get the truth.

998
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 5: But he was an old gangster too, even though he

999
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 5: was a cop, he was a detective.

1000
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, heckey back in the day, you know.

1001
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I feel that, young boy.

1002
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 4: Will you?

1003
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 10: Will you do these characters like you know, your character

1004
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 10: reason Kanan or even your character love and Basketball, people

1005
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 10: like attached to them so like heavily and so deeply,

1006
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 10: Like do you take that as like a nod? Or

1007
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 10: sometimes is it like oh God, like give me a second, y'all,

1008
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 10: Like this is just a character.

1009
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 6: Nah, I love it because I think that I've been

1010
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 6: doing it long enough that people people are able to detach,

1011
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So even like you know

1012
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 6: when you brought up something like fatal to fair this,

1013
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 6: I run into women and it was like you was

1014
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 6: a creep and they'd be dead ass, like you know,

1015
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 6: and I'm like, I did my job.

1016
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 10: Because those conversations with love and basketball too, like whether

1017
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 10: you were a hole or whether there was a real

1018
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 10: conversation about love there, whether it toxic, was it not

1019
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 10: like this whole TikTok breakdown of love in basketball?

1020
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 9: Is that the whole thing?

1021
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 8: You think it was toxic?

1022
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 9: I don't think.

1023
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 10: I think that you guys were young, and I think

1024
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 10: you were kind of learning on.

1025
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 9: The job, right, But like that's that's light, that's I

1026
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 9: think any age.

1027
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 10: But I have seen critiques of the movie where people

1028
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 10: feel like some of the things that you did and said,

1029
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 10: and like the choices you made were a bit like

1030
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 10: she should have been left.

1031
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: You about Quincy's trauma that he was dealing with.

1032
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 5: He was definitely dealing with drama.

1033
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: Talking about why do you talk about the daddy?

1034
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 8: Daddy?

1035
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 10: I'm telling you that he talked about the women who

1036
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 10: come up to him and say about fetal attraction. I'm

1037
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 10: telling you what I've seen from the women and when

1038
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 10: it comes to love in basketball.

1039
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 6: They be the key distinction you just said. You just

1040
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 6: said why Quincy's drama. The character you're saying you.

1041
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 9: Yes, see, that's what the conversation.

1042
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 10: And it's hard to look at you and not think

1043
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 10: about the characters because we've lived with them for so long.

1044
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 10: Like even when you walked in, she caught what did

1045
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 10: you call? Yeah, I forget the character, but like it's

1046
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 10: that's why I'm like, I wonder what he goes young.

1047
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: See, when you come from a certain era, I was

1048
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: born in nineteen hundred and seventy eight, Like that's nineteen hundred.

1049
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 2: That was different.

1050
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: He knew Omar Epps the person as well, you know

1051
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like Omar, that's Omar Epps.

1052
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 10: And even now what we know of you, I mean

1053
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 10: what you share from like social and just interviews, it's

1054
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 10: like you know you and like your wife and your family,

1055
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 10: and I know you write a producer actor and I'm

1056
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 10: seeing her back on tour now, so it's like we get.

1057
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 9: To know you differently than how BC three hundred.

1058
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: Like Old Testament, I wrote a book, a Bible, y'all

1059
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: know that.

1060
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 9: They discovered that the music angel was the devil.

1061
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: Shut up.

1062
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 8: I love it.

1063
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 6: Man, I love you know, the younger generation that you know,

1064
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 6: the work resonates with them, and whether it stuff from

1065
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 6: back in the days or stuff that we're doing now.

1066
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 6: I just I love all of it. The conversations are fun,

1067
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 6: and that's what you know.

1068
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 8: It's provocative, you know.

1069
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 2: What I mean going.

1070
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean even with a film like Moses the Black

1071
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: and you think about all of the movies we grew

1072
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: up with in the nineteen hundreds and nineties, they had

1073
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: intention exactly. It feels like the intention recently is just

1074
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: to make money, make money, let's put it out on

1075
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: the screen.

1076
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 2: It's like there's no intention in film. The sentence felt

1077
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: intentional definitely to me. All the money and made.

1078
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 6: Exactly black pans.

1079
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 7: I think that.

1080
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 6: I think there are films that are intentional now, a

1081
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 6: lot of them. I just think that just so much.

1082
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 6: You know, it's hard to back then. I'm gonna use

1083
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 6: this word loosely. I feel like there was a curation system.

1084
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 6: I don't know if it was curated or controlled. It's

1085
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 6: one of those, right, But I think there's so much

1086
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 6: to digest now, it's just you gotta it's hard to

1087
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 6: find it.

1088
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: But even with the control back then, why did it shift?

1089
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: Like everything we say we want black cinema to be

1090
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: now it was then.

1091
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Speaker 2: So what happened after the nineties.

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Speaker 6: It created a new generation of billionaires. It was like,

1093
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 6: hold on, we didn't want you. How to get that motivated?

1094
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.

1095
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 7: I'm just saying things weren't green lighted, you know, I

1096
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 7: would say from a viewer perspective, you know, things was

1097
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 7: cook it cut once it proved to be successful, like freeends,

1098
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 7: stole from Living Saint, do it over, repudiated it.

1099
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 8: Over and over again, talk about it.

1100
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 7: You know, once it make money, let's do it again.

1101
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 7: Do it to the die, you know, And that's what

1102
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 7: we need people like you're laying to coves.

1103
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 10: I also think the celebrity to like the star appeal

1104
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 10: and the talent, the way that it's what do we like?

1105
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 10: I guess you would say developed is a lot different

1106
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 10: because I think when I watch you guys, like the

1107
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 10: younger you on screen in different movies, there's a certain

1108
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 10: thing about how you act that it's just like I

1109
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 10: can't I would never see that in another actor. But

1110
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 10: now I think people are super talented, but there's no

1111
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 10: like you know, you have so many ogs that helped

1112
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 10: you figure out what your voice was and you know

1113
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 10: what your movements were. I don't know if everybody gets

1114
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 10: that all the time now, and I think that's a

1115
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 10: part of it too. So you might have these amazing scripts,

1116
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 10: but some things just go swept under the rug because

1117
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 10: the characters don't.

1118
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 9: You don't live with them after the movie's over.

1119
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 6: Well, let me say something that's interesting what you just said.

1120
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 6: I think that people have to realize what you're doing

1121
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 6: is a craft. So this is what I want to say.

1122
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 6: It's like with what y'all do. Everybody think they could

1123
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 6: just open up it, put on the camera, get a mic,

1124
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 6: and just start talking. It's not what it is. It's

1125
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 6: night and day when we.

1126
00:56:58,600 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 3: Sitting with y'all.

1127
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 6: This is this is professionals, not because they say they are.

1128
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 6: Because if there's that thing that you're talking about, these

1129
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 6: people have worked at this.

1130
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 3: They know what they're doing.

1131
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 6: There's a difference between you know, Joe and Arkansas and

1132
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 6: people at Refs.

1133
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: Club, you know what I mean.

1134
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 6: And technology has given everyone a platform, so it seems

1135
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 6: like it's equalized the playing field. And I think even

1136
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 6: in what I do, everyone thinks they can act, but

1137
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 6: it's like, yo, we trained for this, went to school

1138
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 6: for this, and you might have a different path. You

1139
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 6: don't have to go my path or I didn't have

1140
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 6: to go to path or the ones before me. But

1141
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 6: you take it seriously enough to respect it. And it's

1142
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 6: unlike sports, right, Like sports, you have to play and

1143
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 6: you have to go through this thing to actually get better.

1144
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 6: Everybody can't get into the league though, you know what

1145
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 6: I mean? And I think that you know too. There's

1146
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 6: a difference between mediocrity, good and great and if we're

1147
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 6: aspiring for greatness. That's why I feel like the word

1148
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 6: legend is thrown around so much. And I'm like, when

1149
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 6: I was younger, like we reserve that for like now

1150
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 6: it's like everybody's and it's like.

1151
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 3: Sure years, tenure, I got tenure. Tenures mean something right the.

1152
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 9: Body of work, yeah, and the impact.

1153
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 3: But you know, I just think.

1154
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 6: That the younger generation take take themselves seriously enough and

1155
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 6: be patient with the process, you know what I mean,

1156
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 6: Especially when it comes to what I do. As far

1157
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 6: as acting, you got to have life in you. You

1158
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 6: gotta have experiences to be able to draw from.

1159
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: You gotta have.

1160
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 6: A an ocean of of emotions and just and that

1161
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 6: only comes with time, you know what I mean. And

1162
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 6: even though I started when I was really young, my

1163
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 6: seventeen was the average person's thirty because of where I

1164
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 6: come from and what I had seen in that small

1165
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 6: seventeen years, the average person will take thirty years the experience,

1166
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So again, everyone has their

1167
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 6: different journey. I don't want to knock the younger generation

1168
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 6: because I love them and I'm inspired by them, you know,

1169
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 6: but I acknowledge that difference.

1170
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 10: My last thing I'm gonna say is when I said

1171
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 10: earlier that your work now seems a little bit more personal,

1172
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 10: and hearing you say that, what I think it is

1173
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 10: is like the same way we felt about watching your

1174
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 10: earlier films and you had that life, the life that

1175
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 10: you have now. I think we're like getting like you're

1176
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 10: pulling the veil off of it through your new projects.

1177
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 10: And hear you say that right now, I'm like, Okay,

1178
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 10: this is like this is like round two of the

1179
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 10: iconic like omar EPs and it's it's you know, the

1180
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 10: intention is the focus is different of the intention, even

1181
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 10: though the intention has already been there.

1182
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 6: I like that, So I love to see it maturation.

1183
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 6: That's a good.

1184
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 5: Work, Elena.

1185
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: Uh.

1186
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 5: If you ever think about doing the story about Baltimore,

1187
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 5: I'm here, yes, because I'm already drawn to you by

1188
00:59:55,280 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 5: the name, you know, Papa Bitch. I love it.

1189
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: I know.

1190
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 10: She said, you put back on your blanket and God

1191
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 10: tells you yes, that's.

1192
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 8: She got a documentary to do before you do anything else.

1193
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 4: She look at me. He wanted me to do that,

1194
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 4: which I'll be very happy. I mean, in in lights,

1195
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 4: to show how this all started, and to show the

1196
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 4: light at the end of the time. There's always the

1197
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 4: light at the end of the time. That's the purpose

1198
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 4: of all of this that we're doing.

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Speaker 6: That's the key is for a generation it feels hopeless.

1200
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 6: There's always there's always hope.

1201
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: Man.

1202
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 6: You have to it's it might not be right there

1203
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 6: in front of you, but you have to have that

1204
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 6: there is a light at the end of the tunnel,

1205
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.

1206
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 7: And I like to say, as a white woman, she

1207
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 7: wasn't afraid of my jewelry. Most people be like I said, listen,

1208
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 7: I will stay in this still ten years latie and

1209
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 7: nothing so transformed this to double and I'm on.

1210
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: My list go out there and supporting Moses to Black

1211
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: in theaters right now. I mean, check your local listeners.

1212
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: I just checked local listeners in New York and they

1213
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: definitely got some showing, so.

1214
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 2: All around the country.

1215
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: Man, make sure you just go google Moses to Black

1216
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: and see where it's at in theaters.

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01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 2: You want to say something, that's it.

1218
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 4: I just want to say to my Chicago listeners on.

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01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 11: Bro Bront turn your Lana Popovich out, Legend of Keen

1220
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 11: Barry Senior, Elena Papach on mys Man, thank you all

1221
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 11: for coming.

1222
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 8: Thank you sell I appreciate it.

1223
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Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club.