1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: I listened to the black guy who tips because Rod 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: and Karen are hot. Now, despite his hard work, Moore 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: was no longer the head of the Florida NUBACP. But 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: the white supremacists he had challenged all those years wouldn't 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: have known that. To them, he was still the n 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: Doubleacp's man on the ground and the target of their anger. Soon, 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: white men from outside the county started asking people in 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: town where that colored n DOUBLEACP fellow lived. There was 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: a mysterious break in at the Moor's house, which sat 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: isolated on a country road surrounded by orange groves. And then, 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: on Christmas night nineteen fifty one, the Moore's twenty fifth 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: wedding anniversary, a bomb exploded under the floorboards beneath their 13 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: bed as they slept. It hurled furniture into the air 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: and crushed the bed into a crater in the earth. 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: The force of the blast could be heard the next 16 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: town over Harry and Harriet Moore. Harry and Harriet Moore 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: suffered grave internal injuries. Relatives rushed them to the nearest hospital, 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: some thirty five miles away, but, as was the common 19 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: dilemma for colored patients in the South, they had to 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: wait for the only colored doctor in town to get 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: there to attend them. Harry T. 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: Moore was dead by the time the colored doctor arrived. 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: Harriet, saying she did not want to live without her husband, 24 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: survived for eight days before succumbing herself. The county, the state, 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: and the FBI conducted a month's long investigation. It was 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: determined that the Klan, specifically Orlando Clavern the Orlando Clavern, 27 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,279 Speaker 1: was behind the bombing, but as the investigation narrowtis focused, 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 1: the clansmen closed ranks at their meetings. They now began 29 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: requiring everyone to recite the clan Oath of secrecy. As 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: the investigation closed in on them. The chief suspects all 31 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: said they had been at a barbecue with twenty or 32 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: thirty other members at the time of the attack, a 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: convenient alibi for most anyone who would come under suspicion. Ultimately, 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: no one was ever charged or spend a day in 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: jail for the murder of Harry and Harriet Moore, considered 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: by some to be the first casualties of the modern 37 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: civil rights movement. Hey, welcome to another episode of the 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: Black Guytipso podcast. I'm your host Rod joined us always 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: on my co hosts and we're live on a Saturday. 40 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: Ready to do some feedback. Find us on iTunes, Stitcher, Potomatic, 41 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: spotifies everywhere you listen to podcasts. 42 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 2: Search The Blackout to leave us five star reviews. 43 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: The official weapon of the show is an unofficial sport 44 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: and bullet ball extreme and today's exert is from Isabelle 45 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: Wilkerson's The Warmth of other Sons. And this just goes 46 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: into the groveling case where these black men were accused 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: of sexual assault. They that they didn't do. But there 48 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: was this man, Harry Moore, who was ahead of NAACP, 49 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: who had done a lot of work down there in Florida, 50 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: like registering people to vote, helping like helping the teap 51 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: black teachers get paid more and stuff, and just completely 52 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: an agitated to white supremacy at that time. And after 53 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: after all this shit, they blew up. They basically terrorized. 54 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: They terrorists attacked his house, right and no one ever 55 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: went to prison for that shit. I believe that you 56 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: know this is crazy because one of the characters in 57 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: the characters, one of the people that she followed for 58 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: this book, George. He was from Florida and basically barely escape. 59 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: You know, the sheriff that they have in artem on 60 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: Lovecraft Country, there was a sheriff down there in Florida 61 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: that was infamous and known for being like brutal and 62 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: killing black people and all this shit. Like so much 63 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: of that work that we see now is entertainment and 64 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: stuff is just ripped straight from the pages of American 65 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: Terrorism Colone. 66 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: They're not getting it from nowhere, just like a lot 67 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: of these cop dramas that everybody loved, the Shield and 68 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: New York Undercover Cop. You know, some of yes, some 69 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: of that stuff is fabricated, but some of that stuff 70 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: is based off of facts. But for some reason people 71 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: act like they just make up the stories on the television, but. 72 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: In real life, there's no way that bullshit can happen. Okay, 73 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: that's also a lot of racism and Lovecraft Country to 74 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: me and probably a lot of black people watch it 75 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: is more scarier than the monsters, you sir, And people 76 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: don't understand that they like, they like, white people can't 77 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: be this bad. The monsters are people. The monsters aren't real, 78 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: but the white people are, like, that's the thing that 79 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: has happened to us in this country as as a collective. 80 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 3: When white people be like, oh, it's the problem, let's 81 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: get them browns, it becomes a problem for us. 82 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: Right And the fact that there was never justice for 83 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: that murder, you know, because at the end of the day, 84 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: you're relying on the system to want to basically convict 85 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: these white people for doing what the system does as well, 86 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like like what the clan's 87 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: ideas of what they wanted black people to be at 88 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: the time and what the just actual government wanted black 89 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: people to be at the time very close to the 90 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: same thing, of course, you know. And so and also 91 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: just the fact that this man first came to their 92 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: radar as an agitator by registering black people to vote. 93 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and that hasn't changed still to today. They 94 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: don't want black people to vote. They don't want black 95 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: people to register to vote. They want you to be disenfranchised. 96 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: They want you that they want you to have the 97 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 3: feeling of despair and be discouraged because on the load, 98 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: that's why truthfully, you know, the government, well the Republicans 99 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: don't care about people not getting assistants and all that stuff. 100 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: They don't care about people losing their homes. They don't 101 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 3: care about people just being disenfranchised. They don't care about 102 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: people catching the coronavirus. Because when you go that hierarchy 103 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: theory and shit like that, you know what's most important. 104 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: What's most important is. 105 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: You know, feeding yourself, shelter, like those things kind of 106 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: trump everything else. Yes, there are other things that should 107 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 3: be important to you, but if you don't got nowhere 108 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: to go, and you don't have anywhere to eat, and 109 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 3: you don't have a roof over your head, that that 110 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: trumps everything and that will keep your time tied up. 111 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 3: So guess what, it's a luxury. You don't have time 112 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 3: to resu the people to vote. You're trying to survive. 113 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: You don't have time to do these things that a 114 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: lot of black people are able to do now because 115 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 3: we are in a place where our needs are met. 116 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's just interesting to see to see how 117 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: much that shit still continues to this day, you know 118 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: what I mean, and the ties that by because like 119 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: the stuff that's happening to activists that you know from Ferguson, 120 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: the stuff that's happened to you know, people like getting 121 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: thrown in fucking vans and shit like and disappend and 122 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: never being seen from again. Yeah, so like to this day, 123 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: like this, they make sure that you pay a cost 124 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: for this agitation that people are doing. They're literally putting 125 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: their lives on the line a lot of times, which 126 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: is you know, wild well a lot of times why 127 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't really have much critique of the people on 128 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: the ground because it's like, bruh, you you really might 129 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: be about the fucking you could be out of here 130 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: for this shit and you don't even know it's not right, 131 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: you know, and some of them do know it, and 132 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: they're willing to do what it takes. 133 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: Like and I try to be funny, it's like if 134 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: you are in particularly that field and you're very vocal, 135 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: and you're out there and you're seen, and you become 136 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: an agitator, you will know very quickly because you will 137 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: immediately get death threats and people were begin to call 138 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: your home and people will getting like like it might 139 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: start on a local level, but you know, the more 140 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: you agitate, the more the the bigger the harassment. 141 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. So yep, just something to think about, man. 142 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: And that story is on story you don't really hear about. 143 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: Even when they talk about the grove which I know 144 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: there's a book written about it. I know Chad with 145 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: Bosean's movie I think may have been about that case 146 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: as well, the one where he the one where he 147 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: played why can't I think of the Supreme Court judge's 148 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: name off the top of my head? Third Marshall. Yeah, 149 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: so it could also like some of this stuff is also, 150 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, in our culture. But I've never learned about 151 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: this in school, Like I was never taught about this. 152 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: And I think because we don't learn this stuff is 153 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: why you have people like ice Q say nobody died 154 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: for the right to vote and stuff is because you 155 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: have to look at the culmination of these people's lives 156 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: and what was and how those lives were taken. And 157 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: to me, there's no mistake I would not play some 158 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: magics or something like this, like this man died and 159 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: one of the main things that started him on the 160 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: path of being in the eye of white people was 161 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: the simple act of registering fellow American citizens who happened 162 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: to be black to vote. In Florida, a place that 163 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: is still pushing to keep black people from voting, disenfranchising 164 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: even when the laws passed to let formally incarcerated people vote. 165 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: They're still pushing back against that, saying that to pay 166 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: these fees and stuff, basically a poll tax. It is 167 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: in twenty like this is like this ship, all this 168 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: thread still connects to this day in the sky. I 169 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: take a look. 170 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 4: It's not a book, A reading rainbow can anyway friends 171 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 4: to know and ways to grow a reading rainbow. 172 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: Anything. Take a look. 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We had come to the end of 260 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: the road, y'all, and we got some comments. Sean says, 261 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: when you were talking about someone to replace Chadwick Boseman's 262 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: Black Panther, I was thinking that if the rumors about 263 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: Black Panther two are to be trusted now more my 264 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: problematic fav on a big screen, then the choice for 265 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: replacement is obvious, and I think she will be great. Sorry, 266 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: don't want to spoil the storyline completely for people who 267 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: don't follow comics. 268 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: Well, I mean you're kind of kind of hard. 269 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not anyway, thank you. Yeah, there was 270 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: some big clues. Yeah, I don't know how they wouldn't 271 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: figure that out from what you just said. But I 272 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: also don't think. I don't think you can really spoil 273 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: the movies. That's just not necessarily. Yeah, they don't follow 274 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: the same they don't follow them like yeah, yeah, and 275 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: it's just it's Marvel Disney. I mean, they'll they'll figure 276 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: out something that will please most of the fans and 277 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: also probably be you know, uh, still surprising to us. 278 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: And that's I mean, that's why they have billions of 279 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: dollars invested in this ship. Agreed. Evie says, a lot 280 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: of people sleep on those big bags of cereal. But 281 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: what a lot of people don't know? Actually, ev you 282 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: know what A lot of niggas sleep on what mattresses? 283 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: The hell wrong with you? That's right, guys. So I 284 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: get paid the big podcast bucks here, y'all. Okay, that's 285 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: why they come knocking on my door when it's time 286 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: to do some podcasting. They they say, mmm mmmmmm, we 287 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: got a hollow a rod. Okay, because that that's a 288 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: man that knows comedy. Me, Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, Richard 289 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: Pryor near the top of the game when it comes 290 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: to this comedy. You got to wake up pretty early 291 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: in the morning to get like me, that's all I'm saying. Okay, no, no, sir, no, 292 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: A lot of people sleep on those big bags of cereal, 293 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: But what a lot of people don't know is that 294 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: the off brand cereals and brand cereals are made in 295 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: the same factories with the same ingredients. I can see that. 296 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what poor's say. They just have different labels 297 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 2: on the package. 298 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: And those multi o'maile cereals used to hit and have 299 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: cost half the price for more product. The only brand 300 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: name products that I absolutely have to buy a brand 301 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: name is toilet paper. Yeah. See, this is just a 302 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: cheap person lying because my parents told me these lies too, 303 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: and I used to believe them because I had no choice. 304 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: But then when I got out and I had my 305 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: own money. Oh, there's a big difference between the brand 306 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: name and the not brand name. I can fucking taste it, Okay, 307 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: I can taste the sugary difference. I can tell the 308 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: difference between a fucking pop tarts and those motherfucking fake 309 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: ass pop tarts. The what was those things called? Like 310 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: whatever they is? They got fruit tarts or some stupid shit. 311 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: I can tell the motherfucking difference, y'all, no difference. There's 312 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: a difference between fucking fruitios and fruit looth. How do 313 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: I know because I tried it. Okay, I tasted both. 314 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: I grew up on one, and if you put it 315 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: in my bowl and give a blind taste test, I 316 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: will be able to fucking tell you ten times out 317 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: of ten this is the one that costs the money. Okay, 318 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: it's not psychosomatic. That is just a lie that our 319 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: families came up with to indoctrinate us. And I know 320 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: because they're the same people that told us that Santa 321 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: Claus was real, the two fairy like they lied to 322 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: us on the shelf. Wake up, sheeople, get off of 323 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: the parental plantation, join the rest of us over here 324 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: and be free. Mm mmmmm. I hate to see it. 325 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: I really do hate to see y'all go through this. 326 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: But Cam, what were we gonna say? Yeah, you said 327 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: you said enough for me. Yeah. 328 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: When I got my own money, I became very bouge. 329 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 3: You know when it comes to cereal. I ain't got 330 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 3: no kids either, sew you know, woofing it down, so 331 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: you know, I could spend five dollars on a box 332 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: of cereal, but when you got kids. But I look, niggas, 333 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: I can't spend those twenty five dollars in no cereal. 334 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I mean, tell the lies you need to. 335 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: I know it's a generational lit some of y'all line on. 336 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: Y'all parents, y'all kids, right now, y'all listen to this. 337 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: Y'all had to turn this down because your kids might 338 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: be listening with you, like, oh no, they gonna find 339 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: out the truth. This shit don't taste the same at all. 340 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: You could taste the difference and sugar hit different like 341 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: the dyke. I don't know the difference between doctor pill 342 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: and doctor Pepper. Get the fuck out of my face. 343 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: I know the difference. I know difference between them all. 344 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: You know the difference. We all know the difference. Okay, 345 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: we just didn't grow up with these rich, privileged backgrounds 346 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: that some of our white peers had, so we had 347 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: to lie and be like, oh, that's the same thing. 348 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: You know, they make them in the same factory, Yes, 349 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: but then they put the sugar in one and we 350 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: get the motherfucker's flinder. I know this is difference. Why 351 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: the fuck would they ever do that? Oh you know what, 352 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: put it in a different box and take half off. 353 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: You know how we do, big cereal. We hate money. 354 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: Mm mmmm. Anyway, keep telling the lie alive, y'all. The 355 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: Poe was will you missed the Mexican pizza. The Mexican 356 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: pizza at Taco bell I never got a chance to 357 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: have it. Fifty percent of y'all never had it, which 358 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: really explains to me and Nick Ju why the fuck 359 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: is gone? Okay, y'all was just missing on all the glory, 360 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: all the goodness, and right in front of your motherfucking 361 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: faces every day on the menu. You just right there 362 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: as a star franchise player, just being overlooked like Jannis, 363 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: like Giannis and Milwaukee. Twenty six percent say no, they 364 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: won't miss it, and twenty four percent say yes they 365 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: will miss it. Well, I'm into twenty four percent, Karen, 366 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: I'll miss it. I noticed you had started getting it 367 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: a little bit last year. I noticed it. It's good 368 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: you used to just be a supreme Tacos woman. Come 369 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: on and the not Jo bell Grande. But see the 370 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: thing that people don't know, okay, or won't say about 371 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: people in the hood. You can order the combo, come 372 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: with the tacos, so you can be like, hey, make 373 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: my tacos, supreme tacos in my combo with my Mexican pizza. 374 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: So now I'm getting the best of both worlds. Okay, 375 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: I almost started jukeboxing the best of both worlds, and 376 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: I realized our Kelly made that song with jay Z, 377 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: So we just pretend that never happened, Green Eye Bandit. 378 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: Green Eyed Bandit says, first they killed the double deck 379 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: of Supreme Taco. Now this good thing. I stopped eating 380 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: that three years ago. Stay strong, brothers and sisters. The 381 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: faux cot continues, raises high yellow fist. Thanks Green Eyed Bandit. 382 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. And I wonder if that's the same Green 383 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: Eyed Bandit that sent us that popcorn. I don't know 384 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: if that's the same person, but we got some flavorite popcorn. 385 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: I was eating something today. I have to give something 386 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,239 Speaker 1: of my parents because I don't want to eat it all. Okay, well, 387 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna try not to lose my foot. 388 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: If it's stay here with the coronavirus, I'm gonna eat 389 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 3: it the hell up. Eve, he says, I didn't even 390 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 3: know Taco bell so a pizza. Sorry for your lost rod. Well, 391 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 3: you know everything on Army's I mean, uh, but I 392 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 3: but I know. 393 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: How you feel. If they get rid of the cheesy 394 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: Gudida crunch, it would be I would be stop me too, though, cheese, Gordidda, 395 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: get love too for me? Okay, many things on the 396 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: Taco Bell me and you, okay, have my respect, So 397 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: I totally understand. That's that's it's a tough loss, man. 398 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: The Mexican Pizza us, Like what else are y'all gonna 399 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: take from us? Twenty twenty is taking so much? Yeah, 400 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: and from whatever. 401 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 3: Reading a lot of the things that are taking off 402 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: the me and you are things that were time consuming. 403 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 3: They was like, we're gonna right, That's why they was like, 404 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: when I get rid of the shit with the potatoes. 405 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: Could potatoes take a long time to cook? You know, 406 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 3: they probably have to like mask do them on the 407 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 3: grill and all that shit, you know, to be sure 408 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: they're done. So a lot of the many things that 409 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 3: they took off with things that would actually time consuming. 410 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: And they were saying that a lot of the boxes 411 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 3: that that stuff was in was like they were saying, 412 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 3: like millions of boxes of Taco bell boxes were like 413 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 3: being thrown in the trash just from certain products. So 414 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: they said they just want to cut down on it, 415 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: so they got rid of the products. 416 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: Mmm. Secret White Women was our episode of twenty one 417 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: seventy four. We got one comment from Eve, who says 418 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: it's a big deal that Anita Hill is endorsing Joe 419 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: Biden since black women are the Democrats' most loyal voting group. 420 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: I am certain to write and the Superwoks would have 421 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: used her name over and over again to say, look, 422 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: how Biden treats women. 423 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: This is the best preemptive to keep my name out 424 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 2: your mouth. 425 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: Play. 426 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 2: I love it if he nominated her for the Supreme Court. 427 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: Me too, Me too. By the way. Also, I've like 428 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: people are gonna say it's fucked up that black women 429 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: get put in these positions. But my thing is, y'all 430 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: put people in these positions because you use them as 431 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: mascots to bludgeon other people with them. So now you 432 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: have a lot of women who probably don't feel that 433 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: excited to vote for Biden or don't feel that charged 434 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: up as they were about other candidates, who now are 435 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to enthusiastically put their foot down like, hey, 436 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 1: I this is the guy, y'all. You know what I mean, 437 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: y'all quit bull with the bullshit. Yeah. I don't think 438 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: Angela davis dream candidate is Joe Biden, but she's clearly 439 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: like y'all are so fucked up. Y'all will use my 440 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: name to say this is why we don't support Joe Biden, 441 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: and I didn't say that, And I don't want that. 442 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: I don't want the world with more Donald Trump in 443 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: my name, if you really, and so I love that 444 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: they take the power out of these like people that 445 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: just want to prop them up as an excuse to 446 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: justify their own apathy, Like, don't do this on my behalf, 447 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 1: do the right thing. Be don't like that's my thing. 448 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to tell people they have to like 449 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: or love this dude. I don't actually give a fuck 450 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: as long as you go out and vote for him. 451 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: Come on, Like, you can hate his guts, but if 452 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: you know the you know the this is a very 453 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: clear right and wrong election. You know the right thing 454 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: to do. So you know, if you want to roll 455 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: your eyes or you I don't even why we gotta 456 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: do Okay, cool, cool, cool? Whatever the fuck. I'm in 457 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: the South. I'm in the state that we are fucking 458 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: fighting tooth and nail just to make sure our votes 459 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: are counted. I can't afford to fuck around with you. 460 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: So you know this was not my candidate either come on, 461 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: but I can't afford the fuck around. So the second 462 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: that he became the candidate, he was my candidate before that, 463 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: non whatever. But I'm not gonna fuck around and live 464 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: four more years in this bullshit and just act like 465 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: it's normal. I can't do it. Regarding the may By 466 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: Maddie controversy, from what I gathered from the articles I 467 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: read about the and the tweets, apparently the storyboard artists 468 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: for hair Love alleged she and the director of may 469 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: By Maddie were in the same animation workshop run by 470 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: Matthew Cherry where designs for hair Love will share. I 471 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: don't disbelieve that may By Maddi was sold to Nick 472 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: Junior some years ago, but probably just the idea and 473 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: the artwork wasn't submitted at the time. It could be 474 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: a case where the may Bo Maddie team did draw 475 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: inspiration from hair Love when they started their art designs, 476 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: because hair Love has also been in the work for 477 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: a few years. But it could just be a coincidence. 478 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess we'll see as more comes 479 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: out on this. But the Internet a lot in the Internet, 480 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: a lot of spreads faster than truth. Yeah, to me, 481 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: it was just obvious that, no matter what you think happened, 482 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 1: everyone needed to sit down for a second and let 483 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: the shit play out. But that's not how things are presented. 484 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: They're presented in the worst possible life possible, which was 485 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: they stole his idea, they stole the hair love. And 486 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: then when you go look into it, it's like the 487 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: case y'all were making is not true. It's not the 488 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: same story. It's not. To me, the artwork does not 489 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: look the same. Like, I know people say similar, but 490 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: that's essentially saying every black woman with natural hair looked 491 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: the same or every you know, every story about black 492 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: people is the same, you know, Watchmen, the same as 493 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: Lovecraft Country. Like, that's not the truth. So let's get 494 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: into it. Let's get into the depths of it. And 495 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: so I think you know, people were looking for a 496 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: thing to be outraged about online that helps pass the time. Yes, 497 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 1: and this just had been to fall into you know, hey, 498 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: crop out, crop out a couple of pictures. You know, 499 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: don't tell people what the story is about. And oh 500 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: and did you know a white woman's name is attached 501 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: to this? 502 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, because if you wanted to do it right, your 503 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 3: shit has shown like the whole family. So people have 504 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 3: been like, Okay, it's similar. 505 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 2: Right, But then the pictures wouldn't look the same, correct, 506 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 507 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: If you show the picture with the if you show 508 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: a picture with the family, and if you say this 509 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: is what the story is about, it's not the same, 510 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: and then it's enough for people to be like, well, 511 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: that's not the same. Why are you trying to say 512 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: that this is the same. So that's what I thought 513 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: was interested. Now, look, maybe they and I always allow 514 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: for this when we talked about it. Maybe you do 515 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: investigate and you do find like, oh no, they didn't 516 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: have any concept, no designs, no art, and then suddenly 517 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: after hair Love they did. Maybe, but I think you 518 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: kind of need to prove that. And I think also 519 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: that's what you know, this will end up turning into 520 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: who can prove what? Because if they Because the other 521 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: thing is, and this is my personal belief, after the 522 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: way that it's been handled, I don't think you can 523 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: put this out. Yeah, I don't think it's ever coming out, 524 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: even if you have some behind the scenes like of 525 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: the process, or you have like the artwork or sketches, 526 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: because yeah, because I don't know that this idea was 527 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: sold with no work attached to it at all. Like 528 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: that's such a stretch. I'm not saying this impossible, but man, 529 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: that is a huge stretch. Five years ago, they paid 530 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: for something that they didn't even have the fucking concept 531 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: art for, Like they just go, hey, yeah, here's some money. 532 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: You know, normally when you do this, you have some outline, 533 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: even if it's just like a raw sketch, you got 534 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: something that you're basing it off of. 535 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then also, like you know, maybe if you're 536 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: like a name, you could do that. Like if you're 537 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: already somebody, you might be able to do that. You 538 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like like, oh, this is I 539 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: don't know. Rebecca should come in with us and hey, 540 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: whatever whatever, we don't even need the art you signed signed, 541 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: come on, but I don't know that that that this 542 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: person was somebody that they were like, oh my god, 543 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter if she has the concept. We 544 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: just want to give her the money. So anyway, man, 545 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, at the end of the day, 546 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: that's really all all you can do. We cover as 547 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: many angles as we can, we talk about these things, 548 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: but we'll find out for sure. If they stole the shit, 549 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's gonna come out. 550 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 3: I am too, And I agree with just one of 551 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: those things with the notch on the front that the 552 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 3: water has already tainted it. So once that water is tainted, 553 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: as are, if it does come out, it's gonna be 554 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 3: years down the line, because the end of it moves 555 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: so fast, people are gonna be there forgot. 556 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: And if they decide, hey. 557 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 3: We're gonna redo this three years from now, two years 558 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: from now, even next year, niggas won't remember. 559 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: They'll put it out without no fan fear. It'll it'll 560 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: keep going, you know. And and and I guess the 561 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: thing that kills me is why can't we have both? 562 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 3: I don't know why people act like they both can't 563 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 3: exist in the same world, Because let's say this would 564 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: have came out without this issue, and let's say the 565 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: other one would have came out without no issue, and 566 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 3: let's say they won all these animation awards the same 567 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 3: niggas is trying to just out here, trying to put 568 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: them against each other. We would have been posting them both, but. 569 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, yes, black people, Yes, we love you, yas. Yes, 570 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: And that's the part to kill me. They both can exist, 571 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: and it goes back to that can only be one 572 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: why who made that rule up? We want diversity, but 573 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: when we get the diversity, we complain about the diversity. Yeah, 574 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: it's just weird, even though made by Maddie is a 575 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: it's about fashion, like, I don't know, it's just weird. 576 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: It's it's but I honestly think it's the environment. You know, 577 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: it's Twitter like it is. I've seen enough of this 578 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: over the pattern is what I'm seeing right, like incomplete 579 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: information or I should say cherry picked information. 580 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: Then and then we present it to you in the 581 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: more salacious way possible. 582 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: Everyone goes off like, everyone feels righteous anger, We pour 583 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: it all in, and then later when it's found out 584 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: like oh wait, we may have jumped to a conclusion. 585 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: Damage has already done right. 586 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 3: Nobody apologizes, nobody says they wrong, Nobody cares about the 587 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 3: money lost, nobody cares about these black people who's their jobs. 588 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 3: You don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, don't lie 589 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: to me, you don't. 590 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: And after something like this, I don't think you can 591 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: get it back. You see what I'm saying. That's the 592 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: thing because so much of so much of this kind 593 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: of shit is just good will. And this clearly is 594 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: not a product that they invested a lot of money 595 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: and time in as far as like promotion, So they 596 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: clearly were gonna put it out and just hope for 597 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: some you know, positive word or. 598 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: Mouth type shit. 599 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: If that's if it was gonna get popular, it's just 600 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: gonna be from black people being like, oh, this is 601 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: actually pretty good. So now that you're walking in the 602 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: door with they stole it. I don't even know if 603 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: I want to press play on it. I don't even 604 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: know if people you know what. Another thing that's happened 605 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: with is this Quts movie that everyone's talking about on 606 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: Netflix now because it has some misleading promotion, like it's 607 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: a movie about the over sexualization of between teenage type 608 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: of girl age for for a little girls, and it's 609 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: and it's like really popular blowing up at these things. 610 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: And then I want to say, either Netflix or somebody 611 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: like promoted it with a picture of the girls in 612 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: like I don't think it's like bikinis, but maybe like 613 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: dance uniforms or something like similar to the effect that 614 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: people associate with, Like this is someone trying to be sexy, 615 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: and so it turned into their over sexualizing girls. Even 616 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: though the movie is not about that. The movie is 617 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: about the opposite of that, called it's about how that 618 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: issue consumes people, and it's promotional art. It wasn't like, 619 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: you know, Team Outfit, Yeah, the girls with all the 620 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: time that genre. Yes, right now, I haven't seen the 621 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: movie yet, But now that the movie is dropped, all this, 622 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: Oh this is really good. Man. If maybe if we 623 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: if people had to just jumped in and try to 624 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: like cancel this shit before it was out, maybe you know, 625 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: it would have a positive thing. But people are people 626 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: now are undoing the negative things they learned by watching 627 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: the movie. That is such a hard position to be 628 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: in as a creative right, because I don't want to 629 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: have to disprove something to an audience. I want the 630 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: audience to come in and enjoy a journey with me 631 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: as a pros to. I heard this was some pedophile bullshit, 632 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 1: and it's like, no, it's not. Oh, it's actually about 633 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: the opposite of that. Oh, it's actually about how we 634 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: over sexualize the kids. Oh, it's actually a really poignant 635 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: movie that we need. Blah blah blah. Well I was 636 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: caught up in the fight about it on Twitter. I 637 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: was caught up in the fight about it on Facebook. 638 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: I just heard that y'all made some shitty shit, not 639 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: to mention, by the time it gets to a lot 640 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: of people, they've only heard second and third hand information. 641 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 1: They don't read articles. So if you present, like my 642 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: whole point, if you present this ass we stole this 643 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: from a black grade or an oscar, it really doesn't 644 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: fucking matter whether you did or not. That is how 645 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: the fuck people can know about it now. And you know, 646 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: if you google made by Maddie now, it's every article 647 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: is just about they were. It was pulled for people 648 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: accusing it of being stolen, so you know, And like 649 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: I said, it was fucked up that the little girl 650 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: who lost the job posted the video and then people 651 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, you know, this is sad and 652 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: maybe maybe we shouldn't have rushed your conclusions, like well, 653 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: now it's too late, you know what I mean, she 654 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: ain't like that job's gone. That job's gone. Yeah, maybe 655 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: they hopefully one day roll it out slowly on some 656 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: platform and without saying but I doubt it. 657 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 3: I doubt it too, And who knows, you know, when 658 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: they do if she quote unquote has aged out or 659 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, because you know, as you 660 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 3: get older, your voice changed, like things change about you 661 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 3: as you get older. 662 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: Yep. So let's see the poe was Are you secretly 663 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: a white woman hiding as a black person something I've 664 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: had to ask a lot of people lately. Fifty percent 665 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: say no, four percent say yes, I will leave a 666 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: comment let us know, and forty one percent say I'm 667 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: a white woman of color, which I am as well, 668 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: so that that's not a secret white woman. We're pretty 669 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 1: out and open with that. And okay, Pumpkin spice season 670 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: is upon us. It is Hello, Karen, Oh, I'm a 671 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: white woman of color. Okay, all right, just checking. You 672 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: never know you might be a secret white woman. Had 673 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: to find out, Well, my name is Karen. That's what 674 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: they say. I mean. 675 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 3: And every now and then I've had to type a 676 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 3: few white woman letters and put on my white woman 677 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 3: voice and let customer service know I'm not the one. 678 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: To fuck with. You've spoken to several managers. I've seen 679 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: it so and put like this, if I got the time, bitch, 680 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: I got the time. Uh Tis says at this point, 681 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with the secret White woman when I 682 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: find out about new people, all the people I've known 683 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: about prior to now under you. Starting with myself, I'm 684 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: tracking down baby pictures and Facebook pics. I'm tagged in 685 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: to see who I grew up around and what kind 686 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 1: of culture presentation was being displayed with my within my circles. 687 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: Interviews will be conducted if further review is deemed necessary. 688 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: That's what I say. 689 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 2: Start with yourself, look at yourself in. 690 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: The mirror and sense some self investigation, my secret white woman, 691 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: because you might be and you know, like the time 692 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: to find out is now. Don't wait too long. Don't 693 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: wait too long, you know, de you gonna have to 694 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 1: reveal it to your community that's not really your community, 695 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: because how can they hold you accountable when it's not 696 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: really What is community? Anyway? What does accountable mean? Look 697 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: it up in the dictionary. I don't know. I cancel myself? 698 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: What is cancelation? Caldure isn't real? So really did I 699 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: cancel anything? Episode twenty one seventy five You in Danger 700 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 1: Girls with our girl Janelle James. We had a couple 701 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: of comments, Monty says Janelle James, is the absolute best. 702 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: And that's all I really wanted to say. This was 703 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: this is a terrific episode, as it always is with her, 704 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: so funny Rod. How it's true that there aren't a 705 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: lot or any comments when there's a fantastic guest. Well, 706 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: I broke that cycle. I agree with Janelle about billionaires. 707 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: It only comes about by hurting others. So no, I 708 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,439 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be one. Yeah, I don't. Yeah. 709 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:27,959 Speaker 3: And the thing about that, I don't think that every 710 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,439 Speaker 3: billionaire is just out here. The whole thing is fuck, 711 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 3: fuck the poor people. All of them are not like that. 712 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: I just think it's different kinds of billionaire. It is. 713 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: But my other thing is this, why is a motherfucker 714 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: that got a hundred million dollars? Also? How did they 715 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 1: get that money with no one being hard? 716 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 717 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: A million dollars? Like, why does like we associate a 718 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: certain amount of money with Okay, now you cross this line, 719 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: you're bad. Like so like if jay Z and them 720 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 1: have nine hundred million dollars good, one billion bad. That's 721 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: it's just we are children. We are fucking children. That's 722 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: my point. We want everything to be so black and white. 723 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: It's so fucking silly to me. To me, there's a 724 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: huge there's a huge fucking difference between someone became a 725 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: billionaire by singing and entertaining people and someone that comes 726 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: a billionaire by you know, exploiting people's labor and the 727 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: yeah and and creating horrible work conditions. It has an 728 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: army of thousands of people employed under them that you know, 729 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: they monitor and do all the ship too, you know, 730 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: Like I think there's a difference between Jeff Bezos and 731 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: you not being able to take a ship at work 732 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: and Beyonce. I just to me, like what Rihanna does 733 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: with Savage fenty and what you know, you know what 734 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: what what the Koch brothers do, it's different. I just 735 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: don't But we're such children. We just want these you 736 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: want very simple rules of bad good. That's that's all 737 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: we want. We don't want anything in the middle. We 738 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: don't want any like we don't want to ever admit. 739 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: We just don't know, right, Like this motherfucker got a 740 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: lot of money, could be a great person, could be 741 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: a terrible piece of shit. I don't fucking know, right, 742 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: And most people don't know, you know, And uh that's 743 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: the thing that great areas where most people fall. And 744 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 1: I think for a lot of people because they never 745 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: know that they the average person knows that they will 746 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: not make that type of money, but they think if 747 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: they had that type of money, they would quote unquote good. 748 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: So because you know this person got the money, you don't, 749 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: they're bad and you're good. 750 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's like, I would never want that money. 751 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: It's easy. You know what. 752 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 2: I would never want to have sex with Rihanna. I'm 753 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 2: gonna be real with y'all. 754 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I just think people that have sex with 755 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: Rihanna are bad people, you know, and as a better 756 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: person than them, I would just say no, I would 757 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: stop at Kelly Rowland best, okay, because that's what good 758 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: people do. It's a way of virtue signaling when you 759 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: haven't done shit. Like that's not even an option for me. 760 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 1: This is my point, right, Like, Rihanna, don't want to 761 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: fuck you dog, You're not gonna be a billionaire, so 762 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: of course it's because you're too good to be a billionaire. No, Like, 763 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: it's not even that shit. It's just people feel how 764 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: they feel. But it's we are children when it comes 765 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: to this shit, So you know, can we just isn't 766 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: everybody with like And that's the other thing too, when 767 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: it comes to America and per capita of money and 768 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: shit and over the world, like a lot of us, 769 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: if we had to fairly distribute everything throughout the globe 770 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: so that everyone had the same allotment of resources, a 771 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: lot of us will be coming down, not up, like 772 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: people live in check the check you still coming down, 773 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like other countries. We actually 774 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: got a lot like that. Cars actually look too nice? Okay, 775 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: that that apartment a little too big? That like if 776 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: we really wanted to do that, So I just think good. Yeah. 777 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: We like the virtue. We like to assign virtue to 778 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: a lack of money and and take away virtue to 779 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: a to the fact that people do have money. But 780 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: a lot of that is based off of envy and 781 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,439 Speaker 1: just feeling like we'll never beat those people. And I get, 782 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: by the way, I get why people feel this way, 783 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: because the opposite feeling it to me is the one 784 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: that that has hurt so many people, which is I 785 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: feel like I can be rich and therefore anything someone 786 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: with money does is correct. There's no fucked up mentality, 787 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,800 Speaker 1: there's nothing, but you know, it's to me that like 788 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily, like I said, you me be a broke, 789 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: fucked up person, you can be a rich, nice person. 790 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: It's to me, I don't think money is necessarily the sign. 791 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: Money just amplifies what's already there. Yeah, like I know 792 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: motherfuckers that have done some really fucked up shit and 793 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 1: don't got no money. You know, Kim Doc says it'll 794 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: feel different. You can invest infinitely more than a billion. 795 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: Oh I think. Okay, So she answered the poll, but 796 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,959 Speaker 1: on the website, okay, co co give me a second. 797 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: Let me do the poll first and go back to 798 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: this comment. Then, So the poe was, do you think 799 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,280 Speaker 1: you can make a difference you can feel the difference 800 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: between a hundred million dollars compared to having a billion dollars, 801 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 1: Because that's another thing people say after a certain amount 802 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: of money doesn't affect your happiness. You can't even tell 803 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: the difference. And I'm like, oh, I would like to see. 804 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: I would just like to know. Look, if I can't 805 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 1: tell the difference, I'll give it back. But I just 806 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: would like to know if I can tell the difference, 807 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: That's all I would like to know. Okay, is it 808 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: a difference between I'm renting a private plane and I 809 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: own a private plane. I would like to know, Okay, 810 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: is taking a hell across copter across town money one 811 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: hundred million? Or is that like eight hundred million? You 812 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Nobody else careous just me now. Yeah, 813 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm curious too, And no, I'm not giving it back. 814 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't care. Well, I don't know what, don't care 815 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 1: what the test results are. 816 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 2: You're an evil capitalist. 817 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: Car but I sure am. I'm not getting back shit. 818 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: I would personally give it all back, every single dollar 819 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: of it, because I'm such a good person. You know 820 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: you won't because if you got a million dollars, I 821 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: got a million dollars. Me we got a million dollars. 822 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,479 Speaker 1: I gotta say so. And I ain't giving back shit. 823 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: We're talking about one hundred million dollars and a billion though. 824 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 1: So if I had a billion dollars and I couldn't 825 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: tell the difference between that and a hundred million. 826 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 2: Then yeah, y'all can have it. 827 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: Because I just want to feel I just want to 828 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,959 Speaker 1: see how I feel in my hand. But I also 829 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: suspect I can tell the difference. 830 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 3: M H. 831 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 2: And I feel like the people that pay for the 832 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 2: polls to tell us that there is no difference. Are 833 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:26,439 Speaker 2: the rich people? 834 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: Okay they out here controlling the polls and y'all done 835 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: it is falling for it. Uh, do you think you 836 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: can because that much? 837 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 3: Because that much money, like we was watching corporate that's 838 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 3: that fuck you money. You get to a certain level 839 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 3: you can be like I'm not doing it and be 840 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 3: like I'm good and just walk away and be like 841 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 3: I don't have to compromise. 842 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: I literally can do what I want to do. And 843 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,439 Speaker 1: that's what most people want. 844 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 3: That's why they getting mad at rich people because they 845 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 3: was like, I wish I could just do whatever the 846 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 3: fuck I wanted to do and tell everybody kiss my ass. 847 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: Uh. Do you think you can feel the difference? That's 848 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: sixty percent or there? With me? They suspect you can 849 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 1: feel the difference between one hundred million and a billion 850 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: and forty one percent? Say no, you can't feel the difference. Yeah, 851 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: I think you can feel the difference. I'm just I 852 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: think you Oprah swagged different to me than Gail swag. 853 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 3: Okay, yes, Oprah has like a whole I garden, like, Uh, 854 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,800 Speaker 3: Gail wanted vested, but she was like a bitch is 855 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 3: over there. 856 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: Like even if a Yonlin house an Oprah house with 857 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 1: the exact same size, I think you can feel Oprah 858 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: feel can feel it. 859 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 2: She can feel she got the billion. 860 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 1: Oh yes, you know. And there's nothing y'all can do 861 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 1: to make me not think that other than give me 862 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: a billion dollars. So, if you're a billionaire and you 863 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: listening to this podcast and you just want to run 864 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: an experiment, let me get up. Let me give me 865 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: a hundred million, Let me hold that for like six months, 866 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: and then give me a billion, and let me just 867 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: have that. And if I don't feel the difference, I'll 868 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: give it back. But if I do feel the difference, 869 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: I get to keep it. So if you're listening out 870 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: that Warren Buffett, hey, I know you ain't giving it 871 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: to your kids anyway. Let's do some Bruster's million shit. Okay, 872 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: let's get in this dog. This could be a great 873 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,919 Speaker 1: learning experience for the whole for the world. Even he says, 874 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: if you're a billionaire, you can buy a hundred million 875 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: dollar house personally, bid settle for a million. Personally I 876 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 1: would settle for a million. Well, yeah, even you got 877 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: low standards. You eat arvice, okay, and then Kim Doc says, 878 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: it'll feel different. You can invest infinitely more of a billion, 879 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 1: the losses won't hurt as much. Even at one hundred million, 880 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 1: you might run out of things to buying places to see. 881 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:39,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. 882 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I just feel like people also treat you different. 883 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: They do. I feel like one hundred million people still 884 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: be like, nah, I'm gonna tell you the truth about yourself. 885 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,879 Speaker 1: I feel like with a billion, you can just say 886 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 1: some wild shit to somebody, like you start making out 887 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: with your cousin, and they'd be like, he's a billion. Now, 888 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We have to do this all right. We 889 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 1: had episode twenty one seventy six Desegregating Them Cheeks, which 890 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: is our love Craft country recap. 891 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 2: My mom called and that she enjoyed this one as well. 892 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: She did. C six says I was listening to this 893 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,919 Speaker 1: episode with my girlfriend and I say to her, wait, 894 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: what if William and Christina are the same person? 895 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 2: Have we ever seen them together? 896 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,760 Speaker 1: And if? Five seconds later, Rodd says, I think William 897 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: and Christina are the same person. 898 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 2: That's why I love this podcast. Somehow you can read 899 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 2: my mind in the future. 900 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: Dianne replied to that I thought they were the same 901 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: person from the beginning because I'm rewatching an old show 902 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 1: where that's a big plot point. Well, shout out to you, 903 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: Dan says, this is a recap made This recap made 904 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: me appreciate you too, even more because a lot of 905 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 1: the episodes went over My episode went over my head. 906 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: But everything makes so much more sense now. I would 907 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 1: definitely have to rewatch to catch what I missed the 908 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 1: first time. But one thing I did understand louder clear 909 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: is my truss ain't shit. Thanks Ev. Yeah, you know, 910 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: I keep I listen to a lot of podcasts and 911 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people seem to be very confused by 912 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: the show, which I was a little bit surprised that 913 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: people were so confused, you know, not that I think 914 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: the show is necessarily quote unquote simple, but it just 915 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: seemed like they kind of show you just don't do 916 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: other shit cut on the close caps. 917 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 3: But a lot of people don't, I think, and watch it. Yeah, 918 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 3: I think this show you have to pay attention to. 919 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 3: So many people watch it and they're live tweeting and 920 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 3: their own like like them. There's a lot of people 921 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 3: when they watch they are literally doing other things, And 922 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 3: so when you're doing all these other things, you're watching, 923 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 3: but you're not watching because, like I said, I've watched. 924 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 1: Confusing shows like literally where you're like, the fuck is this? 925 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,720 Speaker 3: This is more of a like like there are things, 926 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 3: you know, they're kind of laying things out and. 927 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 1: Not answering questions. But that's like all TV shows. So 928 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 1: to me, it's not so confused that you can't follow. Yeah, 929 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 1: it's and not I mean, And maybe it's because I 930 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,760 Speaker 1: don't watch the horror genre, because I think the horror genre, 931 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: at least in my opinion, has a lot of just 932 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: we didn't even try to make this make sense. We 933 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,280 Speaker 1: just wanted to scare you. And this show it seems 934 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 1: more soid fire where there is sense to be made 935 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 1: of it, but you just have to be paying attention. Yeah, 936 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: they set rules, and they so far they've been sticking 937 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: to their rules. Yeah, I mean, and of course with 938 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 1: all TV shows, rules are broken all the time. Yes, 939 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: it's just shit just seems to kind of be coming together, 940 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 1: like there's a bigger thing at play. I don't know 941 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 1: that I'll catch everything, and I don't make it my 942 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 1: goal to catch everything, but you know, anyway, and maybe 943 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 1: there will be an episode where we're just like, I 944 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck happened. We don't know, so 945 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,800 Speaker 1: Manty said. Monty says, totally don't watch the show. And 946 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 1: it takes me like three hours to finish the recap 947 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: because I enjoy it so much and get distracted. Then 948 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, what rewind a lot of rewinding. I 949 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: agree with Eve that I love your recap powers. I 950 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 1: love that Rod has his style breaking the episode down 951 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 1: in the chunks, so I followed the story from the 952 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: character's point of view at all times. It's not just 953 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 1: a summary of events which the major outlets like, oh, 954 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 1: the major outlets do. And I just love how Rod 955 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: and Karen you bounce your interpretations and predictions of each other. Rod. 956 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 2: I also love how you add in historical. 957 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 1: Facts such as how black people an't allowed to check 958 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: books out of the library in some places. When you 959 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 1: address the real life figures in history, it really deepens 960 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 1: my interest in the show. Yeah, and it's only because 961 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: I think they put that in there, like they there's 962 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 1: so much more shit I don't pick up on, Like 963 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know that the dress Journey Smollette was wearing 964 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 1: was the dress from Ease Value that her mama was 965 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: wearing in that movie. I would have never picked that 966 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 1: up in a million years, Like I only fucking like, 967 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 1: I only see that kind of stuff on like Twitter 968 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: or Facebook the next day or something. So there's just 969 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 1: they just put a lot of layers into this, and 970 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 1: I would like to appreciate the layers that they did 971 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 1: because I feel like that makes the recap more fun and. 972 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 2: I appreciate their work. And then I know some people have. 973 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 1: Said they listen to the official HBO recap thing, which 974 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: is dope Chernobyl. I listened to theirs when when I 975 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,320 Speaker 1: watched the Chernobyl series, HBO had another podcast that that 976 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 1: accompanied it, Accompany Need Accompanied accompanied It. But what I 977 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 1: was gonna say is with this one, I don't because 978 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 1: we do a recap and I feel like us repeating 979 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 1: anyone else's work is not going to be as authentic 980 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: as what we do. I agree, So I don't want 981 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: to be a recap that recap somebody else's recap, you know. 982 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: So that's the reason that I don't listen. But I 983 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 1: may listen in the off season or go back and 984 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: catch up on it. And also what they do it 985 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 1: probably is different than us because I mean they're hamstrung 986 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 1: by being attached to the products, so you can't do 987 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 1: so much. What if if you start predicting what's gonna 988 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: happen next week and you write, then it's like, nigga, 989 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 1: you spoiled the show. And you probably knew because you 990 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: were on the show and you work with the show 991 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: and you've seen. And also another thing they're doing a 992 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,800 Speaker 1: lot of these people have seen the first five episodes 993 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: and then they're going back and recapping and trying to remember, 994 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: like not the spoil and all this, and they and 995 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: some of it. They know where it's going and they 996 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,280 Speaker 1: know this is gonna So it's just a different product 997 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,280 Speaker 1: than what we make. Agreed, Karen, Are you still okay 998 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,720 Speaker 1: with the show because each episode sound scary or scarier? 999 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 2: Strength of you and thank you. I made the right 1000 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 2: decision by not watching it, Karen. 1001 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm okay with Joe. Like Roger say, I do, I 1002 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: can do sci fi, and like right, I said. 1003 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 3: This is more of a sci fi versus I don't 1004 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 3: like scary for the sake of being scary, if that 1005 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 3: makes sense. It needs to have a purpose behind it, 1006 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,879 Speaker 3: like like something else needs to be happening to kind 1007 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 3: of move the storyline along. 1008 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: I don't like like those jump scares, you know, people 1009 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,239 Speaker 1: hopping out to the bushes, like I like. For me, 1010 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, I'm good. You know. That's why I 1011 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,959 Speaker 1: don't watch The Souls or or none of that shit. 1012 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 1: But for this, like I said, I can do. Rogie 1013 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 1: could tell you I watch a lot of sci fi shit. 1014 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 3: Me and him watch sci fi together, and si Fi 1015 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,840 Speaker 3: is more suspenseful to me than scary like. 1016 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 1: That, Like that's what I draw the difference. I don't 1017 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 1: mind suspense. I don't like scary. Yeah, I think so 1018 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: as well. Like and to me, the more suspenseful stuff 1019 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: is racial and I watched you know I lived at 1020 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 1: so Chris rees. Yeah. Chris Reed says Letty keeping secrets 1021 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 1: from Ruby gonna get her in some mess. Shaking my 1022 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,280 Speaker 1: head or I rewatch episode one. George got so nervous 1023 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: when Tick mentioned his dad wrote him a letter about 1024 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 1: his mama. I missed that. When George was scared, it 1025 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,719 Speaker 1: said something about him being Tick's dad. I'm sure makes sense. 1026 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,439 Speaker 1: Kim Doc says, I also thought they were the same 1027 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,439 Speaker 1: person that show us too intentional with every detail, every 1028 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 1: time I see Emmett till break, my heartbreaks. I can 1029 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: feel it coming and I don't want to see it 1030 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,800 Speaker 1: even Yeah, I don't know what the stuff with Emmitt 1031 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: til if they're planning on going for like, we're gonna 1032 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 1: watch him die? I hope not. 1033 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,280 Speaker 2: I have seen that portrayed before in fiction. 1034 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: One of the the Tales from the Hood sequel, which 1035 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,800 Speaker 1: is on Netflix, I think maybe even Straight to Netflix, 1036 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 1: had a portrayal of Emmitt tel dying And yeah, of 1037 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 1: course it's it's tough to watch, uh, even in the 1038 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 1: context of Tales from the Hood, which is more of 1039 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 1: a sillier type of movie. 1040 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 3: Right. 1041 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: The poem was, will Hippolyta discover the destroy the state 1042 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:39,839 Speaker 1: in Artum? Yes? Uh, she'll she won't yes, Or she'll 1043 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 1: get there but it won't be destroyed anymore, or she 1044 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: won't even get to the estate. 1045 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 3: Karen, that's a tough one. I think I think that 1046 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 3: she's gonna get there and this is all gonna be together. 1047 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: Uh. And most people agree with you. Sixty six percent 1048 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,320 Speaker 1: of the audience thinks she's gonna ge to Ardam to 1049 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 1: get to that estate and it's not even gonna be 1050 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: destroyed and I'm in a smaller percentage. Now, I'm not 1051 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 1: in that she won't get to the estate, which is 1052 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 1: thirteen percent, but I am in the twenty one percent 1053 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 1: that says she's gonna get there and it will be destroyed. 1054 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 1: So hopefully we'll get some answers next week. You will 1055 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: find out who was right, me or Karen. Okay, all right, 1056 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 1: let's get into some other stuff. But that's all the 1057 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: comments on the website. But we do still have emails, 1058 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:39,359 Speaker 1: and we do have a couple of voicemails here on skyt. 1059 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 6: Hello, ridding Karen, This is Dean Ramsey. I know I 1060 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 6: gotta be quick. Anyway, I've missed all the lives this week. 1061 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 6: I charge it to me and having brain parks. But anyway, 1062 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:56,440 Speaker 6: listening to the in part of episodes the review of Lovecraft, 1063 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 6: I'm co signing with you all five stars on the show. 1064 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 6: Takeaway what you take away from it? If you do want, 1065 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 6: you know, questions and answer things like that, do you research, 1066 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,720 Speaker 6: kind of go back and forth with a small handful 1067 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 6: of people, and then just like I said, enjoy the show. 1068 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,399 Speaker 6: Grateful for y'all for doing the review. And I think 1069 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to start going back watching them at 1070 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 6: least twice now because I know I missed stuff. Y'all 1071 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 6: stay safe and love everything that y'all do for the 1072 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 6: community and. 1073 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 1: For the podcast. Be glad, Thank you, d Ram, thank you. 1074 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, I think you know, I think watching twice 1075 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: would benefit a lot of people right now. Yeah, because 1076 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 1: they're things that you pick up on. 1077 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 3: Like I said, I normally don't watch it twice, but 1078 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 3: there are things that you probably can pick up on 1079 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 3: rewatching it that you don't actually see because when you 1080 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,399 Speaker 3: know how something's going to end, you begin to watch 1081 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 3: things in the background and facial the spread, like like 1082 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,240 Speaker 3: things that you're just ignoring the first time because your 1083 00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 3: brain is trying through process what's happenings. So much of 1084 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,319 Speaker 3: the show is about throwing you off kilter and you're 1085 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,839 Speaker 3: not knowing what to expect next. So watching it knowing 1086 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 3: what they expect is a different feeling than watching it 1087 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,399 Speaker 3: not knowing what they expect. So you can be like, oh, 1088 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 3: in the background, this was happening, or you know this 1089 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 3: neighbor did this thing or whatever. So yeah, like I said, 1090 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 3: when I've watched stuff like two and three time or 1091 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 3: even some of my favorite things to watch, I will 1092 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 3: pick up something new every single time, depending on if 1093 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 3: it's that type of show, because like there'll be shit 1094 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 3: this small or microscopic in the background, somebody moving, somebody 1095 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 3: in the window like like, so unless you're actually just 1096 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 3: paying close attention, you will miss it. 1097 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,480 Speaker 1: Yep, all right, Next one, it's from Gen. 1098 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 5: High Rod and Karen. It's Jen from Brooklyn, just calling 1099 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 5: to say hello. I am so behind on episodes that 1100 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 5: I have nothing relevant to contribute if I just wanted 1101 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 5: to say, I love y'all. And Jen from Brooklyn is 1102 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,560 Speaker 5: actually Gen from and see right now, I'm actually right 1103 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 5: around the corner from y'all in Raleigh because Brooklyn is 1104 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 5: not where it's that for the quarantine. 1105 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 1: So I'm with my parents right now. 1106 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 5: Sadly, you know there will be no TPGWT live shows 1107 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 5: because we lock down. But sending positive vibes from North Carolina, 1108 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:20,600 Speaker 5: and yeah, I have a. 1109 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 1: Great week, and I hope to catch up soon. 1110 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 5: Not having a commute is wonderful, but I get a 1111 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 5: lot less podcasting in so I will catch up soon 1112 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 5: and maybe have something. 1113 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 1: To say about the episodes. 1114 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 5: But I'm listening slow and steady, and I love y'all. 1115 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 1: Have a great week. Bye. Oh well, thanks for checking in. Yeah, 1116 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 1: thank you. If you're gonna get this three weeks from now, yeah, 1117 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 1: we will talk to you whenever you catch up you 1118 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 1: get here. We appreciate it, still listening, and mostly just 1119 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 1: appreciate you being safe, you know, with and commuting you know. 1120 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 1: And that's the thing that no commute to work definitely 1121 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 1: changes days. I haven't had a commute for a while, 1122 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 1: but I find that I listen when I do passive 1123 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 1: at listen passively a lot, cooking, playing video games, exercise 1124 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: and stuff for that nature, taking the shower, I do, 1125 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 1: I'll do it. That's how I get my listening hours 1126 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 1: in these days. All right emails the Black Autips at gmail, 1127 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 1: Andrea Right, Sam Lovecraft, Country High Ride, and Karen, Hey, 1128 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 1: how you doing? Andrew? Thank you for writing man. I 1129 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 1: appreciate you long time listeners. Second time quote unquote caller. 1130 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: I love that your recap and Lovecraft your recaps are epic. 1131 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 1: I stopped watching The Walking Dead and only listening to 1132 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 1: your recasts because, let's be honest, you're better than the show. Anyways, 1133 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to reach out and point out that in 1134 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 1: many cultures, rather than being hated for our lgbt q 1135 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 1: I A fam actually hold a revered and special place 1136 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 1: in the spiritual hierarchy. The two spirit folks are known 1137 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 1: as gatekeepers between the material world and the spirit world world. 1138 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 1: They help us communicate with our path, with our spirit teams, 1139 00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 1: elder elders, allies, and so much more. Yeah. Similar thing 1140 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,760 Speaker 1: with India too, was that it was either India or 1141 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,439 Speaker 1: Taiwan we were reading about and one. 1142 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,480 Speaker 2: Of I can't remember which I actually I may have 1143 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 2: fucked up one of those countries. 1144 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's I think it's one of those 1145 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 1: two countries, but I remember exactly which one. But the 1146 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 1: same thing, it's like there's a reverential element to uh, 1147 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: to people being trans or uh two genders or what 1148 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, different uh, you know, whatever name you want 1149 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 1: to put that under. Like there's like a there was 1150 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 1: like a spiritual reverence for it, Like this is a 1151 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 1: person that's a spirit guy. This person does this and 1152 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 1: at the same time and those same society sometimes they 1153 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:48,480 Speaker 1: were still treated bad, which is like, which is crazy, 1154 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,640 Speaker 1: Like imagine being like this person has the power, the 1155 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 1: spiritual magical power to be a priestess. Also I'm gonna 1156 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 1: treat you like shit. Also, I'm gonna make sure you 1157 01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,440 Speaker 1: don't have a job. Also I'm gonna beat you, you know. 1158 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, like like I said, I don't. I only 1159 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 1: understood that there must have been some backlash to the 1160 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:15,439 Speaker 1: treatment of the character in the episode. I think maybe 1161 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 1: it's just the fact that we have our own privilege, 1162 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 1: and just to be frank, I don't watch things. Very 1163 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 1: rarely do I watch something that it did not actually 1164 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 1: happen and get quote unquote triggered. You see what I'm saying. 1165 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 1: So even when it's black violence, like even when it's 1166 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 1: someone doing something racist to a black person, I very 1167 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 1: even and I know that happens in real life. Very 1168 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: rarely do I go, oh my god, this is this 1169 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:43,800 Speaker 1: is really like it's happening to me. 1170 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can separate that. That's why I don't. I 1171 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 3: don't like to watch real shootings because I know that 1172 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 3: shit is real. 1173 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, if I watch an actual video of a 1174 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 1: black person being shot out of police, that will fuck 1175 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 1: with me for real. But then I can watch someone 1176 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 1: get fucking flayed on Game of Thrones, it won't bother me, 1177 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,120 Speaker 1: not even a little bit. I'm like, that didn't happen. Right, 1178 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 1: you know, those are actors. They're okay, walking dead, you know, 1179 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,320 Speaker 1: like some of the shit that's happened on there so 1180 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 1: gross quote unquote, but it's not real. So I think 1181 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 1: that's that. So that may already put me in a 1182 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 1: different category than than a lot of people. One of 1183 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 1: the first things colonized did when it colonize a culture 1184 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:20,960 Speaker 1: is to turn the local spiritual system on his head, 1185 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 1: make all the guys and demons and install their gods, 1186 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 1: all the gods, demons install their gods, blending just enough 1187 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 1: of the mythologies for to make the transition easier for 1188 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:32,120 Speaker 1: the children. 1189 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 2: To get mixed up. 1190 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 1: So it's easy to see how the viow hatred or 1191 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 1: lgbt q i A folks is nothing more than colonized viowness. 1192 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 1: That's all love you guys, Andy, Yeah, yeah, definitely. I 1193 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 1: really do think these creators are intentional enough and thoughtful 1194 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 1: enough that this will not be the last we hear 1195 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 1: or see. Yohima. I just can't imagine. I don't think 1196 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 1: they would. I just can't imagine they'd be this. I mean, 1197 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 1: this is possible. 1198 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,000 Speaker 2: You know, maybe watch Disclosure on Netflix. 1199 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 1: If you're listening to us and you haven't yet, But 1200 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 1: you think about the portrayal of trans people and the 1201 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,600 Speaker 1: experiences that have been shown on screen and the amount 1202 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 1: of ways it can go wrong, you would hope that 1203 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 1: Misha Green and and crew are like, if we feel 1204 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 1: like we're showing you something like this, there has to 1205 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,360 Speaker 1: be something bigger than this at play. We would never 1206 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 1: just casually be like, and let's just kill this trans 1207 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 1: person violently because fuck it. I hope, I really and 1208 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm have enough faith and privilege that I can be 1209 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 1: patient and yeah, Ms Martikin says, thanks for the blackness 1210 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:48,800 Speaker 1: for the nuance. So I was listening to a lesser 1211 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 1: podcast and a black man was like, Kamala Harris only 1212 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 1: went to an HBCU so that one day she can 1213 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 1: run for office. 1214 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:58,439 Speaker 2: She could pull the black cards. Okay, so her black 1215 01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,439 Speaker 2: father doesn't count? 1216 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 5: Uh not? 1217 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 2: I guess not when that man doesn't want it too. 1218 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 1: She pledged Aka and grew up in the States as 1219 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 1: a black woman, but she is not included in blackness. 1220 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 1: What about her black sister, black nieces and nephews. They 1221 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,919 Speaker 1: actually compared her to Rachel Dola's out and the second 1222 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 1: lady who just came out whose name I'm not memorizing 1223 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 1: Jessica krug We need to memorize these names, y'all. 1224 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 2: Okay, put them on T shirts. 1225 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,840 Speaker 1: We need to know the secret white women among us. 1226 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 1: This is how they slide back in because we don't 1227 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,120 Speaker 1: want to remember their names. Next thing you know, you're 1228 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 1: looking up and your homegirl Rhonda that works across the 1229 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,040 Speaker 1: hall in the call center is a motherfucking secret white woman. 1230 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,760 Speaker 1: He liked, how'd you get in here? Always been Jessica 1231 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 1: Kruk the whole time. I feel like the world is 1232 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,520 Speaker 1: going crazy. Then I listen to you and Karen, and 1233 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, see, people have good sense, you and all 1234 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:56,440 Speaker 1: of your guests. It's the Blackout Tips Extended Universe TVGWTEU H. 1235 01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 1: Let me go back to listen to y'all and Janelle 1236 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 1: James thank you. Uh yeah. 1237 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 2: It's a lot of election brings it out in people too. 1238 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 1: It's just a lot of just missmash out there, y'all. 1239 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 1: It's a lot of bad information, bad low information type 1240 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,880 Speaker 1: of a lot of low information and not even sometimes 1241 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:26,280 Speaker 1: low information because the currency owns social media's attention, so 1242 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 1: a lot of times people do shit and say shit 1243 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 1: that they don't even believe they just said because it 1244 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 1: gets attention. Yeah, and I mean, and it's just there's 1245 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 1: no if you want to have integrity and do a 1246 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 1: little research and read and all this shit, that's just 1247 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,240 Speaker 1: something you only have to do with yourself because there 1248 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 1: is no defining line. There's no journalistic standard. There's no 1249 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,479 Speaker 1: person coming in for most podcasts and being like, hey, 1250 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,040 Speaker 1: this is not right. You need to fix this or 1251 01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 1: this information. We can't put this out. So yeah, Johanna says, hey, 1252 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 1: Rod and Queen Cairen. So I have a theory that 1253 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,320 Speaker 1: Christina and William are either the same person or she 1254 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 1: created him out of Summer Verse Adam and ee. Shit, 1255 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,680 Speaker 1: she cannot join the order because she's a woman, and 1256 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,880 Speaker 1: it makes no sense to me. She is going through 1257 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 1: all of this to get the orry after her father's dead, 1258 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 1: and I think she orchestrated that too, unless she had 1259 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 1: other plans. I did not read the book, so I 1260 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 1: had no idea on how on track I am or 1261 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 1: am not. But watching this show is the most fun 1262 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,840 Speaker 1: I had this Game of Thrones takes again for the recaps, 1263 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:40,160 Speaker 1: Thanks Johanna. It has been really, really fun. Episode three, 1264 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,960 Speaker 1: Jeremy says, good morning, afternoon or night from Memphis. Thank 1265 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 1: you both for everything you do. I love you too. 1266 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,720 Speaker 1: Now I rarely call it in an email. I'll definitely 1267 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,920 Speaker 1: do it more of a ride. When you said that Christine, 1268 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,560 Speaker 1: I think that's her name. Yeah, Christina, I think, and 1269 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,120 Speaker 1: William might be the same person. You made a light 1270 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:56,919 Speaker 1: bulb go off of my head. It makes perfect sense, 1271 01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,040 Speaker 1: the perfect way for her to get past the only 1272 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,840 Speaker 1: men allowed areas that would block her. Secondly, I knowed 1273 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,640 Speaker 1: that when Tick punched the siren in the elevator, but 1274 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 1: it's pretty common in military training. It kind of compares 1275 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,760 Speaker 1: to saving someone from that's drowning and that person's panicing. 1276 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 1: Make you both sink and knock them out so you 1277 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 1: both survived. Lastly, yeah, I don't oh yeah, for the 1278 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,560 Speaker 1: I don't feel like that was some type of like 1279 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 1: message we punching trains people in the face it, I mean, 1280 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 1: at least I don't. I didn't take it that way. 1281 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:26,880 Speaker 1: I didn't take it like that. 1282 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,760 Speaker 3: I was locking because their thing was like, Okay, this 1283 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,040 Speaker 3: sound is so out there, like we have to get 1284 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:33,480 Speaker 3: to stop. 1285 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just funny the imagery of him punching 1286 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:41,160 Speaker 1: this person like he kissed this woman and then punched 1287 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:45,080 Speaker 1: this person in the face in the same like five seconds. 1288 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 1: It was just like damn and knocked her out. It was. 1289 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,320 Speaker 1: It was a lot happening at the same time. Lastly, 1290 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,760 Speaker 1: as soon as I saw those elevated doors, I knew 1291 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 1: they were in the basement of Letty's house. I don't 1292 01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 1: want to ramble on, so I'll save it for voicemails 1293 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 1: and emails love, peace and soul. Thanks Jeremy uh Corth 1294 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:09,040 Speaker 1: caritha right saying your girl crug Oh, now you my girl. Okay, 1295 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 1: I'll see how this goes. You know, black people, we 1296 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,880 Speaker 1: will take it. Black people come on to the cookout. 1297 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 1: Ah No, that's not what I'm talking about. And I'm 1298 01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 1: talking about Black people love to do that where somebody 1299 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,720 Speaker 1: fuck up and we'd be like, that's your girl. They 1300 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 1: here come your best friends like that your mamma, guess 1301 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,240 Speaker 1: what jo mama did. But no, we will not take 1302 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,519 Speaker 1: Jessica Crug to the cookout. What are you talking about, Karen, No, 1303 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 1: not Jessica Crub. That's what she said, your girl Crug. 1304 01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,240 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm sorry, I mean I mean would 1305 01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,320 Speaker 3: take the author of Caria to the cookout? 1306 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,080 Speaker 1: Yes, well, she coming anyway, she's black. You know, all 1307 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:44,000 Speaker 1: black people coming, even the coons they coming. That's why 1308 01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,679 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be there. I hope this message finds you. Well, 1309 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure this is worth spending time on during 1310 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,280 Speaker 1: the show, but I just couldn't resist sharing the statement 1311 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 1: from Duke University Press and the Latina editor that shepherded 1312 01:08:55,360 --> 01:09:01,880 Speaker 1: Krug's book into the world. Oh a Latina editor, hm hmm. 1313 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 1: Because I was told that it was only black men 1314 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 1: that enabled this woman to run this motherfucking scam on us. 1315 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,320 Speaker 1: I heard of people. That's the weakest link. It was 1316 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:18,679 Speaker 1: only every everyone knew except for black men and white people. 1317 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 1: That's what I heard. So you saying it was other people, 1318 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,360 Speaker 1: because I feel like if you a Latina and she 1319 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,240 Speaker 1: pretended to be after Caribbean, that falls into your purview 1320 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,920 Speaker 1: of you need to check the gate Like that's no 1321 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,160 Speaker 1: longer on me, that's on you, dog you she done 1322 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,840 Speaker 1: went to the other fields, like say some Spanish, she 1323 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:42,599 Speaker 1: can't speak it. Okay, see, we gotta check the equifacts. Okay, 1324 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,040 Speaker 1: we need to check when she hit that. But like 1325 01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,400 Speaker 1: on those those threats, come on, can you finish this? 1326 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 1: We need a race Equifax on these motherfuckers. Can we 1327 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,519 Speaker 1: get a race extra facts in America? Is that a thing? 1328 01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:57,360 Speaker 1: Has someone done that? Yet we need that, we need 1329 01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,360 Speaker 1: that ship since here you were in augh car accident 1330 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:06,080 Speaker 1: and uh, when you're in sixth grade and the picture 1331 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 1: of your foot looks rather light skinned, I don't need 1332 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 1: to go ahead and see that foot right now anyway, 1333 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:18,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, don't look like dabetes. Oh your flashlight is 1334 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:23,360 Speaker 1: on your phone, by the way. But yeah, she shoved 1335 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 1: at Cook's book booking Krugs book into the world. As 1336 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,599 Speaker 1: I said in the chat, folks like me who mentor 1337 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 1: scholars of color have some years ahead of ourselves and 1338 01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 1: deal with out a painful fallout. Oh yeah, because then 1339 01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:37,639 Speaker 1: doors begin to shut back. 1340 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 3: They be like, we can't trust, so we don't trust 1341 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,880 Speaker 3: nobody even if they can look at you and tell 1342 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:42,280 Speaker 3: you black. 1343 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:43,960 Speaker 1: Well. See, this is the thing I hate about these 1344 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,920 Speaker 1: fucking interlopers man. They come in and the damage they 1345 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,679 Speaker 1: do to our community is real. Because what what's gonna 1346 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 1: happen is that people can now use this to highlight 1347 01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:58,240 Speaker 1: that black work and race is not real. And that's 1348 01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 1: why I don't believe when she said shit about holding 1349 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,680 Speaker 1: the same values and ethics. I'm still mean, and I 1350 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,040 Speaker 1: just you know, no, you can't, because what you're saying 1351 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,080 Speaker 1: is I think black people who talk about race essentially 1352 01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,080 Speaker 1: are grifters, and that anyone can come in, pretend to 1353 01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:19,679 Speaker 1: be them, imitate them, and succeed in that area because 1354 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:24,639 Speaker 1: you like, something inside of you feels that the if 1355 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,200 Speaker 1: you're telling the truth, which I don't think she is. 1356 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:28,000 Speaker 1: But let's say let's give her take her at her 1357 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:32,960 Speaker 1: face value. She associates trauma with blackness and therefore fills 1358 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,519 Speaker 1: her trauma gives her some sort of insight in the blackness, 1359 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,280 Speaker 1: but she should be able to take over the black 1360 01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 1: experience and write as a black person. No, trauma is trauma, 1361 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,040 Speaker 1: right right, trauma and blackness. That's like the same people 1362 01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,880 Speaker 1: all wordy poor. So you know, to me, I was 1363 01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,000 Speaker 1: a poor white person, same as being black. So nothing. No, 1364 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,439 Speaker 1: that's number one. Number two. She was crazy as hell, 1365 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,600 Speaker 1: right Like I will talk about that tomorrow as an 1366 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,280 Speaker 1: article from one of her white neighbors, former neighbors or whatever. 1367 01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 2: She was just she was just fucked up. Okay, we'll 1368 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 2: get to that. But then the third thing is. 1369 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,519 Speaker 1: You are saying that this shit is not real when 1370 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,200 Speaker 1: you know this did not happen in you and you 1371 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:17,400 Speaker 1: take our stories and what you're leaving behind is a 1372 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 1: trail of now skeptical white people like they were already 1373 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,080 Speaker 1: skeptical before it, don't get me wrong, but now they 1374 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,080 Speaker 1: will use you as the fuel. They will use you 1375 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,240 Speaker 1: as the justification for what they do to us. So 1376 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,640 Speaker 1: to the black scholars that work in that field that 1377 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 1: will now have it even harder, who will now have 1378 01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,519 Speaker 1: their work scrutinize even more, who will not have their 1379 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 1: work disrespected because like, well, your book was only second 1380 01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,880 Speaker 1: is good to hers, So how good could you really be? 1381 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 1: You know that shit is the cost that they really 1382 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 1: have when they do this right. 1383 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,040 Speaker 3: And that's why people are mad and people don't and 1384 01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,360 Speaker 3: that's why people, you know, go for their heads on 1385 01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 3: the internet because they was like, know, you out here 1386 01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:00,880 Speaker 3: fucking faking the funk. There are a lot of white 1387 01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,240 Speaker 3: people out here that are white that are like, I'm 1388 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:04,880 Speaker 3: helping the calls. 1389 01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:05,400 Speaker 1: But that's the thing. 1390 01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,800 Speaker 3: They're not trying to run blackness. You came in wanting 1391 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,120 Speaker 3: to fucking be the goddamn leader. 1392 01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:10,080 Speaker 1: Nobody asks for that. 1393 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,000 Speaker 2: And that's the thing, Like we know they're skeptical. 1394 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:14,840 Speaker 1: We know they don't want to believe us. We know 1395 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,560 Speaker 1: they don't want to respect that work already. But you 1396 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:22,000 Speaker 1: came in claiming to help, so you can't. So like 1397 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:26,240 Speaker 1: your reasoning makes no sense. And you hurt, you harmed, 1398 01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,439 Speaker 1: you injured, like you made this shit worse, you know, 1399 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,960 Speaker 1: like you being a laughing stock makes that's it's like 1400 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,560 Speaker 1: how people go. Well, at least Rachel Dooz I was 1401 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,559 Speaker 1: trying to help. I'm like, no, she's she now makes 1402 01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:42,760 Speaker 1: the NZ double A of Spokane look like a fucking joke, right, Like, 1403 01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 1: how how can anyone credit her for that? Yeah? 1404 01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,240 Speaker 3: And people, you know, and they're going like, how can 1405 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,680 Speaker 3: we take y'all seriously when something actually does happen, Because y'all, 1406 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:52,720 Speaker 3: y'all let that bitch in. 1407 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read this letter on the shelf because we're 1408 01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:59,760 Speaker 1: going we got we already making good time anyway, but 1409 01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:02,519 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the next session before I read it. 1410 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,360 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to reading this thing. 1411 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:10,080 Speaker 1: Editorial director Gisella Fosado speaks out about Jessica A. Krug 1412 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,840 Speaker 1: And for the record, I was joking around earlier. I 1413 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,000 Speaker 1: don't blame this woman for being food by this woman. 1414 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,479 Speaker 1: I really don't, but I know the way things work. 1415 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:27,240 Speaker 1: We whiteness is so great, even in this woman's grifting, infiltration, subterfuge, 1416 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:32,160 Speaker 1: lying bullshit, It's gonna be people of color at the 1417 01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,680 Speaker 1: center of Wow, she was able to get away with this. 1418 01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,240 Speaker 1: It's never gonna be just her fault. She will never 1419 01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 1: be able to just hold this l It's gonna always 1420 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,799 Speaker 1: be that we didn't do enough gatekeeping. It's fucking ridiculous. 1421 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,800 Speaker 1: Right now, all boys back down into whiteness. Man, it's 1422 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,400 Speaker 1: she still protect the same thing happened with Rachel Dolar's out. 1423 01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,640 Speaker 1: I spent last Thursday and Friday reading and processing the 1424 01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,400 Speaker 1: mini stories shared on Twitter about Jessica A. Crugs decade 1425 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,639 Speaker 1: long fraudulent and her for appropriate of black and lieutenant's identity. 1426 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,760 Speaker 1: I have been sick and angered and saddened by the 1427 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 1: many years that she deployed gross racial stereotypes to build 1428 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,720 Speaker 1: her fake identity and the way that she coupled her 1429 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,840 Speaker 1: lives with the self righteous policing and racial politics within 1430 01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,040 Speaker 1: the black and Lautenics circles that she intruded upon. My 1431 01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,599 Speaker 1: interactions with krug who after the book with the Duke 1432 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,760 Speaker 1: University Press were limited. The first time she lied to 1433 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,240 Speaker 1: me was an email exchange at twenty seventeen. I had 1434 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,800 Speaker 1: asked her how to pronounce her name. She answered, thanks 1435 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,320 Speaker 1: for asking about My last name is actually Cruise, and 1436 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,559 Speaker 1: it's pronounce as such. Long story and when we met 1437 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,320 Speaker 1: up and meet up in person, i'll tell you. As 1438 01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:43,160 Speaker 1: an acquisition editor, I often present information about our authors 1439 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,040 Speaker 1: and our books to colleagues across our departments, and it's 1440 01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,479 Speaker 1: someone whose name is often is pronounced. I work hard 1441 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 1: to get names right from that point for everyone across 1442 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,879 Speaker 1: our press, dutifully referred, dutifully pronounced. 1443 01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:56,679 Speaker 2: Her name is Cruise. 1444 01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,559 Speaker 1: So there you are, because Bomani was asking how her 1445 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:03,000 Speaker 1: name was, how she trick everybody, and there you go. 1446 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 1: When I'm marrying person for the other first time. The 1447 01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:09,760 Speaker 1: following year, shortly after their book was published, she told 1448 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,760 Speaker 1: me that the fictation story how her grandparents came to 1449 01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,600 Speaker 1: this country from the Caribbean, and how immigration officials had 1450 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 1: a transcription mistake on her last name their last name. 1451 01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,040 Speaker 1: She also repeated other details that I now know to 1452 01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:22,960 Speaker 1: be fossil about. 1453 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:26,439 Speaker 2: Her identity in her past. Those of us who are connected. 1454 01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,040 Speaker 1: The crew in her scholar in her scholarship, and especially 1455 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:30,639 Speaker 1: those of us who are people of color, are. 1456 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,280 Speaker 2: Grappling with several layers of anger and hurt. 1457 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,120 Speaker 1: There's a personal pain of having someone impersonate your own 1458 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:39,040 Speaker 1: identity in the most racist way possible through caricatures, the stereotypes. 1459 01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 1: Isn't it funny when they want to pretend to be us? 1460 01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 1: They always got to use trauma, pain, anger, Right, I'm 1461 01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:52,519 Speaker 1: the angriest at the white people like that they sup angry. Yeah, 1462 01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm the most woke, I'm the I'm the blackety black black. 1463 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,840 Speaker 1: There's also the shameful sense that, as someone who labored 1464 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,720 Speaker 1: to support her work as her acquisition editor, I helped 1465 01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 1: publish the work of someone who, early in her career 1466 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,599 Speaker 1: took funding and other opportunities that were earmarked for non 1467 01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,479 Speaker 1: white scholars. Many of us who promoted her work in 1468 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,720 Speaker 1: one way or another have also struggled in trying to 1469 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:17,240 Speaker 1: consider the relationship between Krug's scholarship and her wrongdoing. There 1470 01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,720 Speaker 1: are times when a scholar does harm that can be 1471 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,240 Speaker 1: seen as unrelated to their scholarship. In this case, Krug 1472 01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 1: leveraged her deception to enable and promote her work in 1473 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,599 Speaker 1: ways that are not quantifiable or always specific. As others 1474 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,400 Speaker 1: have pointed out, krug scholarship may not have ever existed 1475 01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,559 Speaker 1: without the funding that was inseparable from her to decades 1476 01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,840 Speaker 1: of lives. Yeah, someone else did not get who was 1477 01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:41,320 Speaker 1: actually of those races? 1478 01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:41,880 Speaker 3: Right? 1479 01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,720 Speaker 1: What are we then to do with her? Scholarship? Which 1480 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,519 Speaker 1: is it happens? Has been widely praised and recognized as important. 1481 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,760 Speaker 1: Many scholars and scholar activists have continued to push for 1482 01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,280 Speaker 1: a focus not just on content and scholarship, but also 1483 01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:59,160 Speaker 1: on contact methods, ethics, and politics at to promoting dicolonial approaches. See, 1484 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,320 Speaker 1: that's also a thing. The space she's in is the 1485 01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:07,560 Speaker 1: most theoretical space, So you're gonna have a lot of 1486 01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:12,600 Speaker 1: debates and ethically and all this other shit about what 1487 01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:13,280 Speaker 1: to do with her. 1488 01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's that's what they do. Like like, 1489 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,880 Speaker 3: you know, because it's higher education. These these are like doctorates, and. 1490 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,360 Speaker 1: Like like we won't have to do all this high 1491 01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,160 Speaker 1: concept ship for the rest of the community because to me, 1492 01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,760 Speaker 1: I'm just like I won't ever read a book and 1493 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,880 Speaker 1: I don't fuck with her. But you know, there may 1494 01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:36,360 Speaker 1: be some validity or worth in her in because people 1495 01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:40,120 Speaker 1: already were about to award this book. People already were 1496 01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,400 Speaker 1: upping her work, which means, without knowing she was lying, 1497 01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:48,000 Speaker 1: they thought the work was good. That's what that means. Uh. 1498 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,840 Speaker 1: These are the conversations and movements that can lead us forward. 1499 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,519 Speaker 1: I hope that we can all muster the strength of 1500 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:57,640 Speaker 1: leaning to these conversations, even though they were challenge us all. Uh, 1501 01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:02,400 Speaker 1: that's basically what that level of educations about the conversation. 1502 01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,160 Speaker 1: Almost everyone I spoken to about CRUs book is asked 1503 01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,200 Speaker 1: about her profits from her book. The truth is that 1504 01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,679 Speaker 1: the book, like many monographic scholarly works, did not generate 1505 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:14,280 Speaker 1: a profit. Its expenses were more than its revenues. Despite that, 1506 01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,960 Speaker 1: Duke University Press committed to moving all proceeds from the 1507 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,720 Speaker 1: book to a fund that will support the work of 1508 01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:23,000 Speaker 1: black and latending scholars. Our conversations and deliberations about other 1509 01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:29,160 Speaker 1: actions will continue. And I do appreciate that they left 1510 01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:34,679 Speaker 1: the comments open on this twenty nine comments, as opposed 1511 01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:42,120 Speaker 1: to Jessica, who closed the comments on her post. So yeah, 1512 01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:46,519 Speaker 1: I don't even but yeah, I mean I feel bad 1513 01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,080 Speaker 1: for that person, But to me, that's just the person 1514 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:49,759 Speaker 1: that got food. 1515 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:56,920 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And the thing is is when things like 1516 01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:02,200 Speaker 3: this happen because of the damage in the repercussion behind it, 1517 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:09,679 Speaker 3: and people are mad at the people that the infiltrate 1518 01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:14,679 Speaker 3: these minority groups of color. But a lot of times 1519 01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:18,639 Speaker 3: people spread blame around, like a lot of times versus 1520 01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:20,040 Speaker 3: be like, bitch, you shouldn't have did this. 1521 01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,560 Speaker 1: It's spread around how was your food? Why did you know? 1522 01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,080 Speaker 1: It's like also because it's a blame community. Yes, all 1523 01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:31,200 Speaker 1: them niggas do is like they they also act like 1524 01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:35,880 Speaker 1: they have fucking like some preternatural blackness that can fucking 1525 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,840 Speaker 1: just I'll never be food. I've I've always been the Wokes. 1526 01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 1: I've never you know, it's a place where you erase 1527 01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,240 Speaker 1: your mistakes. This is a place where people delete their 1528 01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:50,519 Speaker 1: tweets they you know several times. Yeah, so to see 1529 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:54,040 Speaker 1: that people, I'm not surprised that these are the motherfuckers. 1530 01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,840 Speaker 1: You do it too, you know what I mean, because 1531 01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,360 Speaker 1: you're the easiest to get God because so much of 1532 01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,800 Speaker 1: what it's happening, it's just these motherfuckers like having to 1533 01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:08,200 Speaker 1: perform blackness all the time, you know when and so 1534 01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:13,040 Speaker 1: much of academic blackness has been tainted by whiteness, that 1535 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,479 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you can't be a This is not 1536 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,560 Speaker 1: me making a judgment or academics about like you're a 1537 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,360 Speaker 1: bad black person, but just because of the nature of 1538 01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,639 Speaker 1: what you're doing, right, I'm trying to convince a institution 1539 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:27,879 Speaker 1: of whiteness to recognize my black brilliance, my black struggle, 1540 01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,400 Speaker 1: my people's stories, and so much of what you do 1541 01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:35,800 Speaker 1: to get that attention is about promoting yourself, almost as 1542 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,479 Speaker 1: like a black charity case. Like there's a lot of 1543 01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,040 Speaker 1: like I was born in the hood and I did this, 1544 01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,000 Speaker 1: and I did that, and I you know, and I 1545 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,800 Speaker 1: need your whiteness to come in and help me and 1546 01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,519 Speaker 1: save me. Or and if you don't prench it that way, 1547 01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:52,760 Speaker 1: a lot of times they don't respect it, Like if 1548 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,840 Speaker 1: you pitch it as an equal, like, no, you know, 1549 01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,760 Speaker 1: this isn't about need. I just know what the fuck 1550 01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,920 Speaker 1: racism is. I want to write about it. A lot 1551 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,720 Speaker 1: of times they're not just interested in that, you know, 1552 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,880 Speaker 1: not to mention the path to be an academic for 1553 01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:11,439 Speaker 1: a lot of black people is a path directly taken 1554 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,680 Speaker 1: out away from blackness in some cases, So you know, 1555 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,720 Speaker 1: at some point, you know when you're like with me, 1556 01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,639 Speaker 1: I was a smart black kid. All of a sudden, 1557 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,160 Speaker 1: I gotta I'm in a scholarship internship program. 1558 01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:28,240 Speaker 2: I'm in, I'm in the AGAP classes. 1559 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:33,160 Speaker 1: I Duke University wants me to be in their summer program, 1560 01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:38,240 Speaker 1: which costs thousands of dollars. And true story, I mean, 1561 01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,960 Speaker 1: I hated Duke. I was a Carolina fan. But the 1562 01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,240 Speaker 1: reason I turned that down my dad said he would 1563 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,400 Speaker 1: have paid for it. But I saw the brochure and 1564 01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,800 Speaker 1: I saw how much money it was. So even if 1565 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,720 Speaker 1: my dad could have afforded it, I just could not 1566 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,599 Speaker 1: see myself being like, for a month every summer, pay 1567 01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:55,479 Speaker 1: X amount of thousands of dollars so I can go 1568 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,840 Speaker 1: do this shit just and I know that a white 1569 01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,519 Speaker 1: kid probably does it have as much trepidation about that, 1570 01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:06,519 Speaker 1: but like we're doing it. Yeah, but that's fucked up. 1571 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,639 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have even thought like that. I'm a kid, 1572 01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,479 Speaker 1: but I know that as an adult. Yeah, But at 1573 01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,600 Speaker 1: the time, I was like, no, this is ridiculous. You 1574 01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:16,240 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 1575 01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,320 Speaker 3: So you're like, is how much to your dadd It 1576 01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,280 Speaker 3: was like, if you want to do it, we'll find 1577 01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,720 Speaker 3: a way. And you know, as and a lot of 1578 01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,760 Speaker 3: black children are like, but I know this shit's expensive, mama. 1579 01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:30,200 Speaker 1: So I think you're So you have that. Then you 1580 01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:33,559 Speaker 1: have people that you know a lot of times if 1581 01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,320 Speaker 1: you're that kind of like black person that's going to 1582 01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,920 Speaker 1: be an academic, and you know, you have to kind 1583 01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:43,880 Speaker 1: of modify who you are for whiteness in different spaces. 1584 01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,040 Speaker 1: You have to do a lot of code switching. Sometimes 1585 01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,120 Speaker 1: at least you being the ostracized black kid, Now you're 1586 01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:52,280 Speaker 1: the kid that talks white. Now you're the kid that, oh, 1587 01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,400 Speaker 1: you think you better than us type thing. And if 1588 01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:58,240 Speaker 1: you're bringing that experience to academia, which is not necessarily 1589 01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:02,519 Speaker 1: a mainstream black experience, right, it's not necessarily representative of 1590 01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,960 Speaker 1: the ninety percent of black people, but it's representative of 1591 01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:09,160 Speaker 1: a significant portion of black people. You're now bringing that 1592 01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:10,000 Speaker 1: baggage with you. 1593 01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:11,240 Speaker 2: There's a lot of shit. 1594 01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:15,600 Speaker 1: And then you bring in Twitter, where so much of 1595 01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:19,360 Speaker 1: this promotion is just us being like, I'm angry, and 1596 01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,880 Speaker 1: let me tell you how special I am because I'm 1597 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,559 Speaker 1: articulating in a different way than the way this other 1598 01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:28,320 Speaker 1: person articulated, and I want to stand out. That then 1599 01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:32,720 Speaker 1: opens up the gateway to the community quote unquote being 1600 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:36,160 Speaker 1: infiltrated because at that point, it's no longer community. You 1601 01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,160 Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, You're competing at this point, honestly, 1602 01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:43,600 Speaker 1: Like I'm doing Black scholarship work over here, and I 1603 01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,280 Speaker 1: got these people that I know for sure that I 1604 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:49,800 Speaker 1: but so many people I ain't I met them. I 1605 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:50,519 Speaker 1: got this job. 1606 01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, A lot of times it might be hard to 1607 01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:55,320 Speaker 3: vet because like it's one of those things where it's 1608 01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:59,000 Speaker 3: about relationships. It's about connections, which a lot of things are. 1609 01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,200 Speaker 3: Once you get so high up, that's what it's about. 1610 01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,280 Speaker 1: And once you get to those levels, it's hard to 1611 01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,120 Speaker 1: bear relationships with people like like that. Real relationships, Well, 1612 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:10,600 Speaker 1: they also start over it's like anything, yes, And it 1613 01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,880 Speaker 1: makes it makes kind of sense that you don't hear 1614 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:16,519 Speaker 1: about her on the ground infiltrating communities, Like you don't 1615 01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,080 Speaker 1: really see people talking about well man, she used to 1616 01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,560 Speaker 1: come to our such and such class or she It 1617 01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,679 Speaker 1: seemed like a lot of the betrayal was just academia betrayal, 1618 01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,880 Speaker 1: Like we thought she was cool on Twitter and Facebook. 1619 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,560 Speaker 1: She was, you know, not like she was coming to 1620 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:36,080 Speaker 1: church every Sunday with us and maybe her maybe that's 1621 01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:37,960 Speaker 1: the thing we've seen the videos, She wouldn't have stood 1622 01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,680 Speaker 1: up to that test, maybe, and so that's why she 1623 01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,240 Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily in these streets people talking about going on 1624 01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,600 Speaker 1: one date with her and automatically knowing something's wrong with her. 1625 01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,759 Speaker 1: So maybe it was just easier to fake it online. 1626 01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,800 Speaker 1: What I think the lesson that people could take from 1627 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:55,920 Speaker 1: this but won't probably the online shit is so fake. 1628 01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:57,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1629 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,640 Speaker 1: I keep bringing this example up, But and Bossie were 1630 01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,800 Speaker 1: talking about something one day and she was like, this 1631 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,080 Speaker 1: person said it's such and such to me. And I said, 1632 01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,479 Speaker 1: BOSSI is that a real person? And she was like, yeah, 1633 01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,040 Speaker 1: I mean they have responses from this. They've been on 1634 01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,040 Speaker 1: Twitter for six years or something. I said, No, I 1635 01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:17,920 Speaker 1: mean are they real? Like do they have a presence offline? 1636 01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:19,760 Speaker 1: Do they? You know what I'm saying? 1637 01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:19,880 Speaker 3: Like? 1638 01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,880 Speaker 1: What? Who are they for real? Though? Cause because that 1639 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,720 Speaker 1: could just be a fake person, by which I mean 1640 01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:29,519 Speaker 1: you log in, present yourself one way, talk, do whatever 1641 01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,320 Speaker 1: you want to, talk, crazy whatever, and there's no real 1642 01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,920 Speaker 1: consequence because you're not a real fucking person, you know 1643 01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,040 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, I try to be real and 1644 01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,680 Speaker 1: every fucking thing we do, so if you see me 1645 01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,479 Speaker 1: on Twitter, it's the same as if you sat down 1646 01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,080 Speaker 1: and had lunch with me, listen to the podcast. It's 1647 01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,240 Speaker 1: the same as you follow me on Facebook. There's no 1648 01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,559 Speaker 1: fucking difference, you know, because I'm not keeping up. Who 1649 01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,160 Speaker 1: wants to keep up with all that shit? It isn't 1650 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,880 Speaker 1: too much. Yeah, unless something is off with you, then 1651 01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,360 Speaker 1: then you can go create your own fucking person. So, 1652 01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,960 Speaker 1: but something happened with crowdcasts. I keep seeing people in 1653 01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:06,639 Speaker 1: the chat saying something, all right, technical difficulties were fixed. 1654 01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:10,320 Speaker 2: Let's go holy speculation, Julie right saying. 1655 01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,080 Speaker 1: So I'm listening to y'all right now, drinking some water, 1656 01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,760 Speaker 1: catching my breath, trying to contain myself because I've been 1657 01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:19,639 Speaker 1: singing that same Christina is William song since episode one 1658 01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:22,720 Speaker 1: for the same reasons you mentioned. To be fair, I'm 1659 01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,320 Speaker 1: obsessed with the show and watch the episode fifty eleven times. 1660 01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:27,600 Speaker 1: I didn't read the book either, but I was so 1661 01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,519 Speaker 1: scared to write in with the theory because I didn't 1662 01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:34,559 Speaker 1: know if it would get in the way of y'all's intention. Actually, 1663 01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:36,800 Speaker 1: thank you, I appreciate that you did not do that. 1664 01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,519 Speaker 1: I you know, this is about our predictions. We don't 1665 01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:44,640 Speaker 1: want y'all's, and that's not disrespect, but literally, I just 1666 01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,839 Speaker 1: don't want people to write in and fuck up everything 1667 01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,439 Speaker 1: for us, because this is what happened with Game of 1668 01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:53,439 Speaker 1: Throngs too, Like people are right in, Like like at 1669 01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:55,560 Speaker 1: first we were just like, oh, yeah, right in, and 1670 01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,439 Speaker 1: then people are right in and they will be You 1671 01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,000 Speaker 1: could tell they read the books because they and they 1672 01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,559 Speaker 1: act like they did know. They will act like, well, 1673 01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm not spoiling anything, but they'd be so far ahead 1674 01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,800 Speaker 1: of the show, right and you know, I think the 1675 01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,080 Speaker 1: real king that will take the seat was actually gonna 1676 01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:13,439 Speaker 1: be so and so, And I'm like, who knows about that? 1677 01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,920 Speaker 1: Like we're we're still in like episode one, we don't 1678 01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,680 Speaker 1: know what the fuck happened. And I think that was 1679 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,200 Speaker 1: kind of when we realized, like, oh, we have to 1680 01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:25,920 Speaker 1: be careful with feedback. Even so, I actually appreciate you 1681 01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,320 Speaker 1: trust your if your instinct is should I write in? 1682 01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:30,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if I should write in, don't write in, 1683 01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,479 Speaker 1: cause the only thing that the only thing that could 1684 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,000 Speaker 1: be worse is you do write in, it is fucked up, 1685 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,479 Speaker 1: and then we go, damn, that fucked up the vibe 1686 01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,040 Speaker 1: of the review, you know. So I appreciate y'all being 1687 01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:47,240 Speaker 1: so thoughtful. Yes intention that we just let the slop 1688 01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,920 Speaker 1: show unfold and enjoy it. But thank you Rod. Now 1689 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,600 Speaker 1: I can play this exhilarating moment to my husband and 1690 01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,439 Speaker 1: let him know that my theory ain't as crazy as 1691 01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,040 Speaker 1: some might think. It's been pure joy being on the 1692 01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,400 Speaker 1: ride with y'all for this show. Stay safe and don't 1693 01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,800 Speaker 1: let the show offs get you. Piece of love, Julie, 1694 01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:08,519 Speaker 1: Thank you, Julie, Thank you. Toya says, Hello, family. I 1695 01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,519 Speaker 1: hope all as well as going as well as it can. 1696 01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:16,760 Speaker 1: In Trumpito's twenty twenty, I have a couple observations, questions, 1697 01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:18,559 Speaker 1: and opinions. Hell, I don't even know what I'm feeling 1698 01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,240 Speaker 1: or thinking with this show, but the main thing I 1699 01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:24,320 Speaker 1: have is the feeling that William and Christina. I have 1700 01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,559 Speaker 1: a feeling that she found a way to make herself 1701 01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:28,560 Speaker 1: to a man, but I bet she can't sustain it 1702 01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:30,720 Speaker 1: for long ride. You hit the point where you said 1703 01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,840 Speaker 1: Christina was playing both sides. I think you're so right side. 1704 01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:37,680 Speaker 1: Note the show really fucking this show really messes with 1705 01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:39,920 Speaker 1: activates my trauma response. 1706 01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:44,040 Speaker 2: However, it's so good. Okay, that's all I got right now? Thanks, 1707 01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:44,560 Speaker 2: thank you? 1708 01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I figured that what I was like, this can't 1709 01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:56,680 Speaker 1: be that far fetched of theory. By this point, I'm like, 1710 01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,200 Speaker 1: there's probably a lot of people that think this shit already. 1711 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,280 Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I didn't read the book, 1712 01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:04,160 Speaker 1: so I don't know. But the Christina william thing, it 1713 01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:08,200 Speaker 1: seemed like to me, like it's leaning towards they want 1714 01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,200 Speaker 1: us to think it's the same person. I didn't didn't 1715 01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,439 Speaker 1: think of that. I thought there was people and you know, 1716 01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:17,080 Speaker 1: like ultimately maybe it's not, maybe it's something different than 1717 01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:21,160 Speaker 1: but but yeah, when I rewatched it was when I 1718 01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:24,040 Speaker 1: was like, wait, a fucking minute, coming in and out 1719 01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,400 Speaker 1: the same goddamn door, driving the same car, dressed, it's 1720 01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:27,439 Speaker 1: kind of the same way. 1721 01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:30,559 Speaker 2: Blue hair, blonde eyes. Nobody else on the show looked 1722 01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:30,800 Speaker 2: like this. 1723 01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:34,760 Speaker 1: M sums up and we know that her whole thing 1724 01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:36,680 Speaker 1: is not being a man that's kept me out of 1725 01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:43,240 Speaker 1: power anyway. Let's see this is from devil Bitch. Is 1726 01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:48,400 Speaker 1: how she signs it? Uh? Oh she got, Oh she 1727 01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:52,719 Speaker 1: got Melanie is the best preserved a shirt? Oh yeah. 1728 01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:54,960 Speaker 1: A couple of people have sent us, like after the 1729 01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:58,200 Speaker 1: blackout tips day, like pictures to our email because they 1730 01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:02,240 Speaker 1: might not have social media what not. So maybe when 1731 01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:05,120 Speaker 1: we do a montage or something of a fans wearing 1732 01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,519 Speaker 1: gear or whatever, we'll put it on Instagram or something. 1733 01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,879 Speaker 1: But yeah, she got it, and she got it in purple, 1734 01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,360 Speaker 1: my favorite color. That's her favorite color as well, that's 1735 01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:18,960 Speaker 1: what she said, and it was available in my favorite color. 1736 01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,800 Speaker 1: She also as a fucking hit. Our people love it, 1737 01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,479 Speaker 1: and low key white folks do too, not so much 1738 01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:28,160 Speaker 1: the jealous ones, but that's their problem. And I am 1739 01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,880 Speaker 1: one happy Marine. Oh, thank you so much. We appreciate 1740 01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:36,400 Speaker 1: you supporting the show. I look forward to becoming a 1741 01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,560 Speaker 1: member soon as I can check out the rest of 1742 01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,960 Speaker 1: your content. So I can check out the rest of 1743 01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:42,880 Speaker 1: your content. The free stuff is already amazing, so I 1744 01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:44,880 Speaker 1: know the stuff on how to pay while has to 1745 01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,880 Speaker 1: be even better. Much love to y'all, Thanks for all 1746 01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,200 Speaker 1: your hard work you put in your podcast. The highlight 1747 01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:54,880 Speaker 1: of my day, double bitch. Thank you, and be safe 1748 01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:58,840 Speaker 1: out there, Marine. And the last thing is not really 1749 01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:03,120 Speaker 1: it's not like an email or something specifically, but I 1750 01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:06,720 Speaker 1: put it in the show notes. But Karen was interviewed 1751 01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:12,479 Speaker 1: for Beyond Type two dot org uh by Tiara Smith, 1752 01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:19,439 Speaker 1: and it's about nutrition and education and it's talking about 1753 01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:26,800 Speaker 1: caring using small changes to overcome pre diabetes diagnosis. And 1754 01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:28,960 Speaker 1: like I said, i'll put it in the show notes, 1755 01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:33,760 Speaker 1: but it's really good and I had such a good 1756 01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:35,200 Speaker 1: time with her. It was a lot of fun. It's 1757 01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:37,000 Speaker 1: been in the works for a while, so you know, 1758 01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:40,519 Speaker 1: check it out and see the Queen, you know, chop 1759 01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,439 Speaker 1: it up or listen read about the Queen chopping up 1760 01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:44,160 Speaker 1: because it's. 1761 01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:47,599 Speaker 2: An actual like read it interview, you know what I mean, uh, 1762 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:48,479 Speaker 2: print interview. 1763 01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,080 Speaker 1: That's what the word is called. All right, y'all, that's 1764 01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:54,840 Speaker 1: it for this week. That's all the stuff. Thank y'all 1765 01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:59,439 Speaker 1: for listening. We appreciate you. Oh yeah, we'll be hosting. 1766 01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:01,680 Speaker 1: That's We're on Keith and the Girl. So if you're 1767 01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,600 Speaker 1: a crossover fan of Keith and the Girl and The 1768 01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:09,200 Speaker 1: Blackout Tips, you can check us out there. They have 1769 01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:13,920 Speaker 1: a Keith and the Girl vi P, So if you 1770 01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:15,560 Speaker 1: go to there Keith and the Girl VI I P 1771 01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:17,920 Speaker 1: and put in cod TBGWT, you can get a month 1772 01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,960 Speaker 1: free Yes and Uh that way you can listen to 1773 01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:24,240 Speaker 1: us interview them about their show. It's like a meta 1774 01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:28,519 Speaker 1: meta meta meta meta show between both shows. 1775 01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:31,000 Speaker 2: Yes and a love Fest. 1776 01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:36,160 Speaker 1: And next month we'll be doing NPR so for Oh 1777 01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:40,360 Speaker 1: Charlotte Podcast Festival is what it's called, and we're gonna 1778 01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:42,000 Speaker 1: be on three panels. We'll get back to you with 1779 01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:46,240 Speaker 1: the dates and times specifically, but I know we can 1780 01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:50,680 Speaker 1: start talking about you know, we're gonna be uh surprised. 1781 01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:54,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing some stuff with them too. So yep, 1782 01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,280 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff in the works over here, y'all. 1783 01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:59,120 Speaker 1: You know how we go. We'll talk to y'all later. 1784 01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,160 Speaker 1: Until then, I love you. I love you too, La,