1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Can'f I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. We'd 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: like to formally welcome you to the rest home of 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: old Joe. Welcome to Bidenville. 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: Everyone, Oh man, women created by go you know the 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: you know the thing there's a man on the moon, 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: or you know something, or you know whether those aliens 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: are here or not. I commuted for thirty six years 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: as president Vice President of United States. 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: Appy birthday, Happy birthday to you television on television. 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 2: I was on the telephone every time I hear hale 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: of the chief lender. Where the hell is he turned 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: around them? 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 3: Where? 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: Where's where's the president? 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: I can't remember it. I was gonna foot him, excuse me. 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: The foothills of the MLAs with Shiji Pink for Secretary 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: of Health and Educations? Are I nominated? 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: Baber Bakaria? What good wife? 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: Harris is a proud Howard alone. 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: That's Joe Brand and I agree. 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: I got the one point. 23 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 4: Nine trillion dollars relief so far. 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Cryptocracy, the guys who were the kleptocracy representative Jackie 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: you here? 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: Where's Jackie? I think she was here? And now dig 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: you go tour of Bidenville before your extended stay. Here's 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: John and Katy. That is quite a collection. It is 29 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: exhibit number one, your honor. Well, yeah, but still on 30 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: the roll. Apparently he's at the G seven in Japan. Yeah, 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: he told some US forces stationed there that once again 32 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: his son Boat died in Iraq, which was not what happened. 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: Once again, that is a complete lie. 34 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: The quote is, my son was a major in the 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: US Army. We lost him in a Rock. 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: No you didn't. No, he died in eric in the 37 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: hospital of a brain tumor. That's correct. 38 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: He did die in this country, and Biden believes that 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: he got some he acquired the cancer because of his 40 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 3: time in a Rock and that's why he. 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: Always associates the two. Either that or it's like some 42 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: cheap way of trying to connect to a military audience. 43 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: I guess it is, right. Yeah, that's a good game 44 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: to play. 45 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's attributed his son's fatal cancer to burn 46 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: pits that disposed of military waste during Bo's nearly year 47 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: long deployment in a Rock back in eight. 48 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: You play the Joe Biden game, senile or dishonest? You decide. 49 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: He's always been known. 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 3: As it embellisher long before he got this senile so. 51 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: Embellishing your son's death though, embellish is a great word. Yeah. 52 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: We also had this audio clips a nice word for 53 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: a liar from the G seven. And apparently Biden was 54 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 3: asked about relationships in the future, relationship with China. 55 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: Let's listen to this, not number one. 56 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: You're right, we should have an open hotline at the 57 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: Bali conference. That's what the president, she and I agreed 58 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: we were going to do and meet on. And then 59 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: this silly balloon that was carrying two fake cars worth 60 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: the spine equipments line over the United States and it 61 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: got shot down, and everything changed in terms of talking 62 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: to one another. I think you're going to see that 63 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: begin a thaw very short. But in the meantime, what's 64 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: happened is I think it's fair to say, for those 65 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: of you who have dealt with the Japanese government that 66 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: reported from here for a long time, the situation in 67 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: terms of our relations with Japan have never ever ever 68 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: in American has to get stronger. 69 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: All right. 70 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 3: So he referred to the Chinese spy balloon as a 71 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: silly balloon, A silly balloon get NBC News reported that 72 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: they didn't find this out for a couple of months, 73 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: that the Chinese were probably able to control the balloon, 74 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: to steer it to places and to get real time information. 75 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: From the balloon. 76 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: So it wasn't that balloon transmit information back to Beijing 77 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: in real time. I didn't need to recover the balloon 78 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: to get some of the information that they wanted from 79 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: flying it over these sensitive sites. 80 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: And it was about gathering nuclear information, our nuclear ready readiness. 81 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: It was flying over those sites to and and it's 82 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: stuff that you can't get from satellite imagery. You're much closer. 83 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: You can also pick up radio frequencies. And they wanted 84 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: to test out what we're capable of doing and a 85 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: nuclear attack. 86 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: And so this is his way of taking taking a 87 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: knee by calling it silly, to make so the Chinese 88 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: don't feel like we're still angry over them flying balloons. 89 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: The Chinese president doesn't take his calls. Oh that's true. 90 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: They will know, but yeah, it is true. He or 91 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: his staff calls and the response is we'll get back 92 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: to you. President g isn't in today. Uh, I'm sorry, 93 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: just stepped out. Never calls back, has it for months, 94 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: so you got, you got Our president has got such 95 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: a bad relationship that, uh, she doesn't even doesn't even 96 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: pick up the phone. Joe gets the dial tone every time. 97 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: Plus they're pretty busy helping the Russians anyway. Well, yeah, 98 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: they do that. 99 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 5: There. 100 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: Russia's ally now and they want to grab Taiwan, and 101 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: they're daring us to defend Taiwan. And of course we 102 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: don't really want to, but we've always promised we would. Yeah, 103 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: so you know, we're stuck. They they want to be 104 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: the dominant nation. That's their long term plan. 105 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: They want to be how to protect those computer chips 106 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: with Taiwan, right. 107 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: Well that's what Why do you think we're hurt? You know, 108 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: we are spending like fifty five billion dollars to help 109 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,559 Speaker 1: finance the construction of computer chip factories in America because 110 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: Taiwan makes ninety percent of the computer chips. The whole 111 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: world shuts down if China grabs Taiwan, or if there's 112 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: some sort of terrible war and they'll hold those computer 113 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: chip factories hostage. And that that's a real thing, and 114 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: that's why we're spending fifty five billion dollars on a 115 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: program which both parties supported because it's it's a real emergency, 116 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: and you know, he's he's just, he's just and that 117 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: that that stupid balloon. That's stupid balloon that he let 118 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: fly over the whole nation and hover over our military 119 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: sites and our nuclear sites. And then after it sucked 120 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: up all the information, it vacuumed up all our military 121 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: and nuclear information, then he shot it down over the 122 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: Atlantic Ocean. Sometimes I think of these I just say 123 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: them out loud. It's like, what kind of a nut 124 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: is he? 125 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: Well, the way that story evolved that I'm not defending 126 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 3: him here. It was hugely concerning that there was a 127 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 3: spy balloon flying over the country. Right, But then remember 128 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: the weekend after they started shooting down everything left and right, 129 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: including that hobby club's balloon, and it became a silly 130 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 3: story because they overreacted in the other direction. 131 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: What was that term they used. 132 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 3: They changed, you know, the level of which they considered 133 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: these things possibly problem. 134 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: The radar filters, the filter, that's right, what it happened 135 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: for the filters, every every hobby balloon started popping up 136 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: on the radar. But right they tracked this thing before 137 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: it entered US airspace space. Right, they knew it was. 138 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: They knew it when it was way out there, right, 139 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: so I remember they it was. It was people on 140 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: the ground in Montana who uh made up made a 141 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: public deal of it because they started posting it online 142 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: on social media. I mean, the thing is that was 143 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: pretty low stakes, right. It was one balloon, it was spycraft. 144 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: Look how badly he botched it. What happens when we've 145 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: got a real issue, And do you have any confidence 146 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: that he's going to respond properly? Look what he did 147 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. I have zero confidence in this administration. If 148 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: we really have something scary happen with Russia or China, 149 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: I have zero confidence. I've already seen how they dealt 150 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: with a balloon. I already saw how they botched up 151 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: the afghan exit. Right, this is a great job on 152 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: inflation too. Oh yeah, yeah, we saw how they botched 153 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: up inflation. They just pretended it didn't exit. Don't forget 154 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: the border and the border, yes, there you go, there's 155 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: a third international story. Completely botched the border for two years, 156 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: and that's why. And when somebody starts doing their partisan 157 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: prattle about the Biden accomplishment, Shut up, stuff a socket 158 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: it all right, we got more coming up. Town and 159 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: Ken KFI AM. 160 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: Six point forty were live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 161 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 162 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,239 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 163 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: From one until four and after four o'clock the ir 164 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: and app as the Johnny Kin Podcast Johny Kent on demand, 165 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: so you can hear what you missed. 166 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: All right, before we leave Bidenville, one more clip. It's 167 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: from the locker Up Lady. 168 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 4: I know, John. 169 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: It's hard to believe, but Hillary Clinton's still out there apparently, 170 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: so she's ready to run. I guess if Biden can't 171 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: step up to the plate next year. No, nothing is that. 172 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: Nothing would surprise me anymore. 173 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: She was at the Financial Times Weekend Festival in Washington, 174 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: d C. Of course, she was kind of in the 175 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: news last week because that report that came out about 176 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 3: the Russian hoax and how the Trump campaign paid by 177 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 3: her campaign. Yeah, it was all her campaign's doing. They 178 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 3: put together that one just in time for the twenty 179 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: sixteen election, although it wasn't enough to save her. 180 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: No, that's what's funny is they went through all the 181 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: trouble and expense to try to destroy him, and he 182 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: won anyway. Trump won anyway. Boy, how galling is that 183 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: that Hillary's got to live with that for the rest 184 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: of her life. 185 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: We have a question that was asked of her about 186 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 3: is Biden's age should that be considered by voters. 187 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: Let's listen to the audio. 188 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 5: Was that heart stopping moment where he almost fell over 189 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 5: coming downstairs a day or two ago? He didn't use 190 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 5: the railings, Jill wasn't there with him. Every time that happens, 191 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 5: your heart is in your mouth because these things could 192 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 5: be consequential. Is that a concern? 193 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 6: Well, I mean it's a concern for anyone. And we've 194 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 6: had presidents who've fallen before who were a lot younger, 195 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 6: and people didn't go into you know, heart palpitations. But 196 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 6: his age is an issue and people have every right 197 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 6: to consider it. But you know, he has this great 198 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 6: saying and you know, I think he's right. You know, 199 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 6: he you know, don't judge him by running against the almighty, 200 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 6: but against the alternative. And I had some funny one 201 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 6: you know of the camp up that uh I think 202 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 6: you know, he's determined to run. He has a good 203 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 6: record that three years ago people would not have predicted 204 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 6: would have gotten done. 205 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: What would that be? 206 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 6: He doesn't get the credit yet that he deserves for 207 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 6: what is happening out in the country in terms of 208 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 6: you know, jobs and growth and planning for the future 209 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 6: with chips and other stuff. So I obviously hope he 210 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 6: stays you know, very you know, focused and able to 211 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 6: uh compete in the election, because I think he I 212 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 6: think he can be re elected. And that's what we 213 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 6: should all hope. 214 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: For, really, what we should all hope for. Who's the 215 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: we she's talking about? There, that prissy interviewer. There, My 216 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: heart is in my mouth. That's a British guy. What 217 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: is what do you mean your heart is in your mouth? 218 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: Old guy stumbles down the stairs and it wasn't that 219 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: much of a stumble, and Jill wasn't by him. There 220 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: was nobody with him. It's really you're you're, you're that 221 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: on edge, you're you're, you're ready to burst into tears. 222 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: It's the old president is the daddy thing? Oh my god, 223 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: grandpa is about to die. Yes, what's gonna happen to 224 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: the country. We'd lose the great one? And you notice, 225 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: and this is what makes me nuts about these things. 226 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: Is that there's no penetrating discussion here, right, she says, Oh, 227 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 3: he's got a good record, better than and the issues 228 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: just that we just went through. 229 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: Right. Border is a disaster, Afghanistan was a disaster. The 230 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: relationship with China is a disaster. Inflation is a disaster. 231 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: That's four disasters just off the top of my head here, right. Oh, 232 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: he has a good record. Who would have thought? And 233 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: of course he the little little press over there doesn't 234 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: say anything, just nods long, yes, good record, yes, good. 235 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: My heart is in my mouth. Oh, we're all so 236 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: very nervous. I'm like, shut up Jesus. Right now. 237 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: We move over to the Supreme Court, and for the 238 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 3: second time in a week, it's a victory for the 239 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: California animals. Remember last week the decision over the egg 240 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: line hens. 241 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, every egg laying hen gets a two bedroom apartment. 242 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: They do. 243 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: They get more room than the homeless we'll get with 244 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 3: those five hundred thou dollars apartments in LA's building. Yeah, 245 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 3: the Supreme Court upheld California's ballot measure about the egg 246 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: laying hens and how much room they have. To stand 247 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 3: up and turn around because it was a real concern 248 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 3: as to whether or not. 249 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: They get an exercise room, they get an aroma therapy room. 250 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: Actually it was the pigs. Wasn't the egg laying one. Yeah, 251 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: it was the pigs. 252 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: That's right. 253 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: The pigs have to have enough from so I think 254 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 3: the hens already got their room. Yes, that that ballot 255 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: measure was about the pigs because there was a big 256 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 3: up roll over how much bacon could cost. 257 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: That's right. The chickens have their apartments. Now the pigs 258 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: have their apartments. Yep. Well, now we move to another. 259 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: Foul, the duck god who remembers the year twenty twelve 260 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 3: and the Foiguah ballot measure California band production and sales 261 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: of gua within the state back in twenty twelve, but 262 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: some of the sellers were still fighting this in the courts. 263 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: This was now Foguah is a fatty duck liver, right, yes. 264 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: And the idea they believe that some of them were 265 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 3: force fed to get their livers to enlarge. 266 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's terrible. 267 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 6: Who eats that. 268 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: You ever had it? 269 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: You've had it? 270 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: Can disgusting us be served. 271 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: Especially when I was in accounting, we used to go 272 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: to the cocktail parties, and there was always somebody walking 273 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: around with the tray of fog. Wah, you have a 274 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: little cracker or something? 275 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: Have you had it? 276 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: John? 277 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: No, Now just ever has come up? Well I can remember. 278 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: I mean we've talked about liver thrust in the past, 279 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: kind of. 280 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: Like that, Oh liver worst is horrific. I used to 281 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: like liver wors Oh you did, Oh that I did. 282 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: My mother used to slam it on sandwiches with oh god, 283 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 3: it's a big German bronze fighter. 284 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: I was never unto those processed sausages that is all 285 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: German stuff. Yeah, it is German's level. Well, the Poles 286 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: love their sausages too, Yeah they do. Cabasa Cabasa is good. 287 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: It's a little tastier, but the German stuff is like, 288 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: no wonder those guys are in a bad mood for 289 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: so long they so uh. 290 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: The challenges to this made its way through the Appeals 291 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: Court and the Ninth Circuit, and eventually it reached the 292 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: California I'm sorry, the United States Supreme Court, and they're 293 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: not going to look at a challenge. They just kind 294 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: of turned it aside, which means the previous court's decisions 295 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: are upheld, which upholds the law. 296 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: So the duck liver is illegal. 297 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: The idea that it seems is that California is a 298 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: right to protect animals within its border. 299 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: Well, because you have to overfeed the ducks to and 300 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: that's well, I don't know, that's cruel. Yes, I see 301 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: a lot of overfeed. 302 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: They tend to twelve inch tube to force large amounts 303 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: of concentrated meal and compressed air into the birds. As 304 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: often as three times a. 305 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: Day was depressed air. 306 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: Compressed air right, causing a bird's liver to swell it 307 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: ten times its normal size. This is according to Rob 308 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: Banta's office. So I don't they blow it up with air? 309 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 310 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: Probably the compressed air. Make sure that the amounts the 311 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: feed gets down there so that liver gets nice. 312 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 7: Oh, I see anybody who wants to eat it? 313 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: So they hey, talk to the fancy account here. 314 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: It's not a long time, but I do remember they'd 315 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: walk around with the plates because I asked, what is. 316 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: This flog us? 317 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: Yes, he went to these what duck liver? He went 318 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: to these fancy it's also goose liver too. It's Manhattan 319 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: cocktail parties. 320 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 7: I'm sure he didn't know what was happening to the 321 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 7: ducks back then, right, hen. 322 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 3: So victories for the hens, victories for the pigs, and 323 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: victories for the ducks. Yes, dever, Mark, one by one, 324 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: we're taking away the meat, or at least some attempted Oh. 325 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 7: Come on, I mean, seriously, animals deserve they deserve these 326 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 7: rulings they do. It's just it's it's awful the way 327 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 7: they're treated. 328 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 3: Who are you gonna go to a slaughterhouse and let 329 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 3: that will never? 330 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: Oh? 331 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 7: Well, I'd have to wear a blindfold and I'd have 332 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 7: to have somebody guide me, and I would open up 333 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 7: that stucker so fast. 334 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: And I don't want to. I don't want to see 335 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: what's going on. You don't want to say beforehand? 336 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 7: Right, I can't even go I can't even go to 337 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 7: a dog pound without bursting out tears. Can you imagine 338 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 7: going to a slaughterhouse? 339 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: No? Are you born? 340 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: Yes? 341 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 7: I love animals. 342 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: We got Moore coming up, Johnny kN KFI AM six 343 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 3: forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 344 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf 345 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 4: I AM sixty. 346 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: We're antil four after that, go to the podcasting you 347 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: already missed an hour and a half. You can hear 348 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: it on the podcast John and Can on demand on 349 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: the iHeart app. 350 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 3: All right, now, we're going to take a look at 351 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 3: some weird ideas. Uh. One hour ago, we were talking 352 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 3: about the Mayor of New York City, Eric Adams. He 353 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: appeared on Face the Nation over the weekend to talk 354 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 3: about so many migrants who have been sent to New 355 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 3: York City and the burden that's having on their ability 356 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 3: to take care of them. 357 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: To house them. Apparently a lot of hotels are being used. 358 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 3: In other cases they were put at least temporarily in 359 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 3: school gymnasiums because there just wasn't enough hotel space for them. 360 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: So he went on there and growled about how the 361 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: whole country ought to take migrants. We got to spread 362 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: them out. I think he gave it had a number 363 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 3: of the hundreds of thousands of towns and cities we 364 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: have in the country that we can take the migrants in. 365 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: Now he's in the news for a completely different reason 366 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 3: and a different subject. He apparently has an idea that 367 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: when it comes to rising retail theft in New York City, 368 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: we should have diversion programs. Ah would we hear that 369 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: before big here too. 370 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: Well, that's part of their religion, isn't it. It's like 371 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: a magical incantation. Diversion programs more failure. 372 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: Again, that's the belief that nobody should be in jail 373 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 3: or prison. All we have to do is come up 374 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 3: with alternatives to incarceration. 375 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: Somebody explained to me what it is. Have you ever 376 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: heard the details of a diversion program? What is it 377 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: that they do? 378 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: I did hear one. Remember the homeless guy that was 379 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 3: hitting women with weapons, I think with bats and sticks, 380 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 3: and that guy he went to like a bunch of 381 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 3: diversion programs, and it's like psyche counseling. You go in 382 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 3: there and you sit down there. It's almost like group 383 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: psychology to try to figure out why you're violent. That's 384 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 3: because you're violent, because you're finding to deal with your 385 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 3: mental violent condition. So they set me down and it's 386 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: like trying to figure out why somebody is funny. 387 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: It's because they're born funny. Why somebody smart because they're 388 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: born smart. People are violent because they're born violent. That's true. 389 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: Also, some people are violent because they were beaten when 390 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 3: they were children. It's also very common with the pedophiles 391 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 3: and stuff. 392 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 1: You know, when I was five years old, one of 393 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: the biggest jerk kids in the class ended up being 394 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: in trouble his whole life. He was five. I picked 395 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: him out. He was sitting next row, over a couple 396 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: of seats up. I didn't like him from the first 397 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: days song you knew it, I knew it and that Yeah, 398 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: his his life has been a constant mess. There was 399 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: there was a jackass in my high school and he 400 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: ended up a few years ago getting getting arrested for 401 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: buying uh crack, I think, yeah, yeah, one of my classmates, 402 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: and he was, you know, he's a big bully guy, 403 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: big stupid dumps of the guy didn't bother me, but 404 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: he bothered some of my friends. And he was well. 405 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: Of course he opened the paper to find out he's 406 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: The police arrested him and he's in prison now for 407 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: buying crack. Now you sound like my father. 408 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 3: My father used to play a game with my brother, 409 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 3: Tell me the names of your classmates, and I'll tell you, 410 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 3: based on their name, whether or not their trouble. Yeah, 411 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 3: he had a pretty good record at it. Yeah, well, 412 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: my brother would give. 413 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:09,479 Speaker 1: Them a navy goes. 414 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 3: That guy's that guy's up to no good. My brother goes, Yeah, 415 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: he's always in getting in trouble tonight. 416 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: I could I could judge him just by their haircuts. 417 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: Their haircuts, yeah you can. Well. 418 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 3: The other funny thing that Mayor Adams proposed, he was 419 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: on a Channel five broadcast in New York City and 420 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: as I mentioned, here's what else we could do. We 421 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 3: could do de escalation training for retail employees, and we 422 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 3: can put kaosks in the stores to connect the would 423 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 3: be thieves to social services. And I saw this was 424 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: a parody. 425 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: Yes, this is Eric Adams. 426 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 3: He went on a TV station New York to lay 427 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: out his plan to combat shoplifting, and retail cress is on. 428 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: That's crazy, that's absolutely ridiculous. They're not gonna go to kiosks. 429 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: They don't want they don't want social services, they don't 430 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: want to help. They're making a good living, stealing hundreds 431 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: of dollars worth us stuff every day. That's a good living. 432 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: I don't understand it. Why should they give that up? 433 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: If they're if they're not prosecuted, why should they? 434 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 3: Could you imagine that the thief goes into like a 435 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 3: seven eleven, he ask, and he changes his mind because 436 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: he sees the kiosk in the corner, and he walks 437 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 3: over to the kiosk and he starts to hitting some 438 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: some buttons and letters, and what do you know, he's 439 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: connected to services. 440 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: He doesn't need to steal. And honestly, how come the 441 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: retail clerks have to take de escalation classes for what 442 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: all they want to do is bring people up at 443 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: the register, swipe the credit cards. That's all they want 444 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: to do. Why do they have to be social workers 445 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: now engaging in de escalation. Get an armed police officer, 446 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: let him pull out his gun. That'll deescalate things real fast. 447 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 3: He also wants to establish neighborhood retail watch groups to 448 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 3: share theft information. 449 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: You see, it's about putting all the. 450 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: Making us all do stuff because because the thieves, they're 451 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 3: suffering into this capitalist system, they need this to live. 452 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: We have to feel sorry for them. No, and people 453 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: aren't going to retail. People aren't going to want to 454 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: go to de escalation class. They don't want to get involved, 455 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: they don't want to get stabbed. You can't de escalate 456 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: to crazy people. You can't de escalate criminals who are 457 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: making a good living stealing. This is also stupid. I 458 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: can't believe we're discussing this. 459 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: We are now in an era where there's this faction 460 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: of politicians and activists. I just saw a story the 461 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 3: other day, and we did cover this a month ago, 462 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 3: and I think we even talked about this with the 463 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: LA City Council that they want the car companies to 464 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 3: do more to install anti theft devices, and in fact, 465 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: some of them are suing the car companies. It's not 466 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 3: about the thieves anymore. It's about just trying to make 467 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: sure the cars are harder to steal. 468 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: So it's your fault. Why can't we get rid of 469 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: these people? Why can't people vote this crowd out? This 470 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: is nuts. We have to do de escalation. We the 471 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: car makers have to come up with somebody the. 472 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 3: Same idea that you should not walk around the streets 473 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: with your fancy phone or your fancy watch, or in 474 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 3: your fancy car, because you're just making yourself a target. 475 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 3: Yeah again, the emphasis, as you just said, is on 476 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: you to prevent crime, not the criminal. 477 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: All right, we got we got to get rid of 478 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: these people. Most people don't feel this way. I bet 479 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: you ninety five percent of people don't feel this way. 480 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 3: I can't ask anybody to stop people from shoplifting. How 481 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 3: about a kiosk in the store with social services connections? Yeah, 482 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 3: they would stare at you like you were crazy. Social 483 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 3: service connections. What a phone number you get? No, the 484 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 3: kiosk would have you could you could like think of 485 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 3: a kiosk to get like an ATM and you could 486 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 3: type in something and it would tell you where to go. 487 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: To get some. Yeah, okay some buildings in the city. 488 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: That is just nuts. Get some. That's not even worth 489 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: responding to. That's so stupid. 490 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: What he was real about it He said this on 491 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 3: a TV station door an interview. 492 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: There's something wrong, yes, and the interviewer should should should 493 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: have should have blasted them. When are you gonna get 494 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: one person at one TV station somewhere to say, mayor 495 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: you are completely effing nuts. That is fact. 496 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 3: He cited that step that you and I talked about 497 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 3: a few weeks ago. Adam said last year alone, three 498 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty seven repeat offenders were responsible for thirty 499 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: percent of the more than twenty two thousand retail thefts 500 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: across the. 501 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: All you need is three hundred and twenty seven prison cells, 502 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: and crime instantly drops by thirty percent. 503 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: Right, he thinks, well, no, we just need to find 504 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: those three and twenties. So you can't connect them to services. 505 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: You can't. You can't. You can't know they make a 506 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: good living. It's they're just hungry. It's completely rational. No, 507 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: they're not hungry. I'm desperate and hungry. I bet you 508 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: they're eating really well after they after they sell their stuff. 509 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 3: They're probably eating better than we are. All right, we 510 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 3: got more coming up. Johnny kenkf I AM sixty Psycho World. 511 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 3: We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app This is going. 512 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: To pass one day, right, No, this is going to pass. 513 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: Maybe a bad school. 514 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 515 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 516 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: All right. 517 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 3: Court appearance today for the man that's accused of killing 518 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 3: the Idaho college students, four of them. This story, of course, 519 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 3: broke last November. He wasn't arrested till just before Christmas. 520 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: Brian Coberger is his name. He apparently was a student 521 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 3: at Washington State University studying criminology. The two stories on 522 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 3: him today, Number one, he did appear in court. We 523 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 3: mentioned last week that a grand jury did indict him 524 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 3: for the murders. The attorney the DA in that part 525 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: of Idaho decided to go that route. Rather than go 526 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 3: to a preliminary hearing, he went to a grand jury 527 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 3: and got the indictment. So today was arraignment day in court. 528 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 3: And apparently Colberger answered yes to these simple questions, and 529 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: then when it came time to plead to the crimes, 530 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 3: he stood silent. In fact, his attorney told the court 531 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 3: that's what he's doing. He's standing silent. That's not a plea, 532 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 3: it's not so the judge entered the play on his behalf. 533 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: So why were not guilty? Why wouldn't he say he's 534 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: not guilty? 535 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 3: Because it's his way of giving the finger to all this. 536 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: I don't even recognize this kind of thing. Well, you know, 537 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: it's bizarre. This is really a person. Yeah, I think 538 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: he thinks he's going to beat this. Oh, I'm sure 539 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 3: he does. He didn't want to lie and say he 540 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 3: was not guilty. So the jo the judge, that stupid system. 541 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: He's done. 542 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: Now sixty days for them to determine whether or not 543 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 3: they're going to seek the death penalty. 544 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: Firing squad have to Firing squad is an option. Oh, 545 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: that's right, Idaho does have that as they just passed 546 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: that recently, and we might see a trial in October. 547 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 3: Don't know us unlet's see if he delays it then 548 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: we won't. But that's the timeline right now. 549 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: Is sickon one. He needs to be executed. He is 550 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: a complete psychopath. He's like a monster out of a movie. 551 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 3: The judge apparently mispronounced some of the victims' names, and 552 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: family members complained to a court representative. I mean they 553 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: did have odd names. The four college students. I mean 554 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: Xana Kernadle, I don't even know if that's right. That 555 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: was one of the girls killed, Mattymojin, Kaylee Gungcalvis, and 556 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 3: Ethan Chapin. But I'd probably mispronounced all of those names. Now, 557 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 3: the other Coburger story, which again needs you to understand 558 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 3: exactly why this guy's a stalker and probably a killer. Supposedly, 559 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 3: just months before he murdered allegedly the four University of 560 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 3: Idaho students, he broke into the apartment of a female colleague, 561 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: moved items around he was trying to manipulate her. This 562 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: is according to NBC's Dateline. He befriended a female at 563 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 3: the Washington State University campus just months before the murders. 564 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: And what he did was he broke into her apartment 565 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: somehow and moved things around to scare her. She then 566 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: asked him to install a video surveillance system. Would say 567 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: now believe he could have accessed remotely since he knew 568 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 3: her Wi Fi passed? 569 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: Wow, how creepy is this guy? Wow? 570 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: Yep, this was his way of getting his foot in 571 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 3: the door, so he could probably take a look at 572 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 3: her anytime he wanted to. 573 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: That's I don't know. You know, it's such a weirdo. 574 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm surprised any woman trusted him to do that. I mean, 575 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: he just screamed psycho weirdo, but. 576 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: I think he came across as kind of calmon and tell. 577 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 3: Some women just thought, this is a really brainy guy 578 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 3: who can help me in his. 579 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: I don't know that. That's sick. They should they should 580 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: just do this firing squad now, Uh, why waste everybody's 581 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: time and money? Well, it's true he also hired in process. 582 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: I really am fed up with Process. Let's get to 583 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: the point. 584 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: NBC Dateline Special. I didn't even know Dateline was still on, 585 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 3: but I guess it is. Uh, Coburger purchased a k 586 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 3: bar knife and sheath before moving to Washington and enrolling 587 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 3: at the university, so that appears to be the weapon 588 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: that he used. Of course, drop up the students. There's 589 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: no there's zero mystery here. 590 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: I don't think there is either, but is formality because 591 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: the process is required by the US Constitution. So everyone 592 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: is going to go through the process. But he killed 593 00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: the four. He's got his own psycho reasons, LANs, his 594 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: enjoyment of violence and manipulation. 595 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: Do you think if they put the death penalty out 596 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 3: there that he might try for a plea deal rather 597 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: than take his chances of being convicted in. 598 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: All sized death. I don't know. I never predict insane people. 599 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 3: He's got a co counsel by the name of Eliza Massos. 600 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: I saw that. So what woman decides to uh be 601 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: a defense attorney for this character? What's her issues? 602 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 3: She certified to defend death penalty cases, and she also 603 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: worked a case that appeared on America's Most Wanted involving 604 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 3: a man who received four consecutive life sentences plus fifty years. 605 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: It's interesting that he doesn't do not guilty. I wonder, 606 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: I wonder if they're going to come up with some 607 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: a complex childhood abuse excuse. 608 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 3: So she joins a public defender by the name of 609 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 3: Ann Taylor. 610 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: You got two women defending him. Huh yep, that's part 611 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: of the legal things. Great, she was a point to 612 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: represent Coburger, But if he gets his. 613 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 3: Own attorney, why do they have to continue to pay 614 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: I thought you get a public defender because you're she's 615 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 3: the indigent, then you need it. 616 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: I think she's the death penalty specialist. Oh, I see 617 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: the one. The other one is just an Idaho public 618 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: defender probably can't get you out of a parking ticket 619 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: on a good day. 620 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 3: And the public defender had actually counseled the mother of Xana, 621 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 3: one of the girls killed in an unrelated drug case, 622 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 3: and she suddenly withdrew her services on January fifth because 623 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 3: she knew she was going to get Well, there's only 624 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 3: in coburger case, it states with the death. 625 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: Penalty, there's only a few lawyers who are certified to 626 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: argue how to handle the case. Yeah. Yeah, it's a 627 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: small list, which is why in some states takes forever 628 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: to kill them, because the attorneys have too many cases 629 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: that they have to deal with. Right, and you have 630 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: to get specially tested and certified that you understand the 631 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: death penalty law. 632 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 3: All right, when don't we come back? Well, welcome back 633 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 3: to the show. Bijorn Lomborg. It's been on our show 634 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 3: many times to talk about the ridiculous ideas to battle 635 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 3: climate change. Although he believes in it, he doesn't want 636 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 3: to devastate the world economy. He's a best selling author, academic, 637 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 3: and he is the head of a think tank called 638 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 3: the Copenhagen Consensus, and he has a new book. 639 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: Who're going to talk to him about. 640 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 3: Johnny KENKFI AM six forty live everywhere, iHeartRadio app. 641 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: And Deborah Mark Clive in the twenty four hour KFI 642 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: news Room. 643 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 644 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 3: You can always hear us live on KFI AM six 645 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 3: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 646 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 3: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.