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Speaker 1: Boys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Boys.

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Speaker 1: This is Cowboys storyline presented by Gillette, the official shave

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Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Here's Nick Eatman, what is up?

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Cowboys storyline presented by Gillette. And today is

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Speaker 4: a different day because we've got Darren Woodson in the house.

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Speaker 4: I almost said hall of Famer because I know that's

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Speaker 4: gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: Let's get it.

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Speaker 2: Wait, first of all, why is your chair always higher

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Speaker 2: than mine every time I come in here?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: Is it like I feel like you're looking down at me?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm certainly not. I'm never looking down as you.

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Speaker 4: I just called you a Hall of Famer ring of honor.

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Speaker 5: A little sensitive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, anyone that's ever seen my office knows only have

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Speaker 4: one picture in there. It's this guy, which you've signed it,

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Speaker 4: which you might need to resign that again because it's

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Speaker 4: but I don't know, maybe it's just you know, the

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Speaker 4: ego and me of the show. You know, I got

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Speaker 4: my home show. I got my own chair, you know,

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Speaker 4: big chair. Anyways, man, Darren, so good to have you.

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Speaker 4: I know that you've you've been on a couple of

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Speaker 4: times with this first time this season uh. And a

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Speaker 4: lot of the fans are like, when When'soody coming back?

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Speaker 4: When's Woody coming back? What a perfect time to do

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Speaker 4: that because I want to talk about not only Cowboys

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Speaker 4: trying to get this thing turned around, but this last weekend.

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Speaker 4: How awesome that was. So you guys to see a

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Speaker 4: bunch of former players, so real quick though, and this

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Speaker 4: is a fan show. We'll get to some callers, but

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Speaker 4: I want to ask you what are you seeing from

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Speaker 4: this football team right now? I mean, their defense is

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Speaker 4: not defense that you you remember seeing when you played,

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Speaker 4: but they're trying.

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Speaker 2: To play much better, you know, And it's almost like

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Speaker 2: week to week but in figuring out what's happening with

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Speaker 2: eber Flus's defense, but it seemed last week they played

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Speaker 2: with a lot more intensity. They played with a lot

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Speaker 2: more understanding of what their roles were.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I couldn't I was at the game.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't really see all the coverages and what they

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Speaker 2: were exact, you know, exactly what they're running. I they're

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Speaker 2: run his own or I know they played a lot

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Speaker 2: more manned. I'm used to seeing them play, but I

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Speaker 2: just saw them play with more discipline than this game.

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Speaker 5: And maybe it had.

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Speaker 2: Something to do with you know, look, the Commanders didn't

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Speaker 2: have their top guys out there, but there's no excuse.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this team came out and played extremely well,

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Speaker 5: ran to the ball.

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Speaker 2: And one thing I've known about this Eberflus defense, even

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Speaker 2: when they're not playing well and they gave them giving

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Speaker 2: up big plays, they still play hard.

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Speaker 5: I mean they're still trying to run to the ball.

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Speaker 2: They may get out physical or whatnot, but they're still

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Speaker 2: running down the field and trying to make plays and

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Speaker 2: guys are trying to scramble around and get there.

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Speaker 5: But this past.

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Speaker 2: Weekend, uh, they had the They played by far their

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Speaker 2: best defensive game that I've seen this this year in

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Speaker 2: a discipline, not giving up the big play, keeping things

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Speaker 2: in front of them, and then had to turnover with

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Speaker 2: Bland with the interception return, which was which is awesome, man.

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Speaker 2: But you know, defensively is going to be a work

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Speaker 2: in progress every single week. Offensively, man, you know what

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Speaker 2: you got. I mean, this is this is fun. It's

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Speaker 2: fun to watch, it really is. It's fun to watch

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Speaker 2: Dak and the wide receivers in the offensive line get

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Speaker 5: It's it's been a joy to watch.

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Speaker 4: I mean, having a dog at ride receiver is great,

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Speaker 4: but two dogs.

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Speaker 5: Two of them, man, and so you got two ones.

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Speaker 5: It's hard.

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Speaker 2: Look, I've been on the on the defensive side of

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Speaker 2: so you knew they had number one, and it's hard

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Speaker 2: to double. It's hard to double one guy and then

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Speaker 2: you have to play another guy one on one, or

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Speaker 2: you try to double two guys and then you leave

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Speaker 5: You know, it's it's it's a Viking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris Carter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would say this, look, I think this

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Speaker 2: this this due was better than that Moss Carter duo.

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Speaker 2: I mean because Chris Carter was gonna run the underneath routs.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't gonna take you deep, take the top off

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Speaker 2: the defense. That both of these guys, right, you can

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Speaker 2: take the top off the defense. Both of these guys

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Speaker 2: can run the mid range routes and when they get

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Speaker 5: They're dangerous.

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Speaker 4: All right, Let's let's get to some callers quickly before

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Speaker 4: we get into we'll talk about the weekend and just

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Speaker 4: how awesome that was. Let's go to it. This is

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Speaker 4: a new caller for us, Charlie. He's in Lancaster, California. Charlie.

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 5: What's up? Nick?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 5: Hey, Charlie?

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Speaker 4: Man, how's it going?

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Speaker 6: Pretty good?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 6: It's the first time caller. I've been a big fan

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Speaker 6: of E since the break. I would follow you. I

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Speaker 6: think you're like the man when it comes to h

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Speaker 6: the cowboys and reporting on them, So I always follow

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Speaker 6: your stuff.

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Speaker 4: Man, A thank you, you're embarrassing me. Thanks you for

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Speaker 4: the Woodie we do have. Yeah, first time calling, Charlie,

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Speaker 4: you you got, you got lucky. Your first time. Your

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Speaker 4: first call is with Woody. You don't have to ask

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Speaker 4: me anything. You can ask Woody what what do you got?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Okay, you know, I know you guys talked about

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Speaker 6: the defense and Woody as a as a forward player.

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Speaker 6: I know when you look at the guys, you see

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Speaker 6: how hard you're playing and you're analyzing that. I truly

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Speaker 6: believe what the help they got coming do you see

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Speaker 6: that spirit in them? You know, since you're a defensive guy,

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Speaker 6: do you see that spirit of them coming together and

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Speaker 6: really truly, you know, getting to the middle of the

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Speaker 6: And I see it. I see them coming together and

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Speaker 6: you know who got them back. So it's very exciting.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate you being a fan of you man, and

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Speaker 6: you guys have a good day.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Calls back Charlie. I know we

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Speaker 4: have to be quick, but it's good to hear from you.

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Speaker 4: What do you think they got this? They got the

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Speaker 4: dog in them on defense?

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Speaker 2: Well, you look, you talk about the dog in defense

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Speaker 2: that I've played on some great defensive teams, and talent

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Speaker 2: is it shows itself right, So talent's got to pop

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Speaker 2: in aggressiveness and.

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Speaker 5: Knowing what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they have the personnel just yet

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Speaker 2: to be that dog that you're expecting, like a shutdown defense.

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Speaker 2: That's probably not gonna happen. Let's just be real about that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're not going to be a shut down defense.

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Speaker 2: But can they can they maintain and not give up

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Speaker 2: the big place. I think this defense has those capabilities,

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Speaker 2: but I think there's got to You got to give

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Speaker 2: ebra Flu some credit for he's had a lot of criticism.

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Speaker 2: He's had to deal with a team that's, you know,

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Speaker 2: a new system that's come in is deep that the

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Speaker 2: personnel is just getting to know his schemes. He's not

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Speaker 2: put he hasn't implemented everything. They just came off the

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Speaker 2: Zimmers scheme. So there are some growing pains that are

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Speaker 2: going going along with us. And you just lost your

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Speaker 2: best player on the defensive side.

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Speaker 5: Yeah that's I mean, look, let's not forget you.

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Speaker 2: You just lost your best football player on the defensive ball,

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Speaker 2: the guy who's made the most impact in the last

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Speaker 2: four or five years. And now you're adjusting to all

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Speaker 2: those things. So they're gonna have to adjust to this.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna this is not an overnight situation.

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Speaker 4: I know, but but the first time we've had you

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Speaker 4: on here.

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Speaker 2: Look, he's a phenomenal player football player. I just watched

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Speaker 2: him Sunday night Arizona. I guess Arizona he is. He

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Speaker 2: is probably the best pass rusher. If I think he's

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Speaker 2: the best pass rusher in football hands down, just one

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Speaker 5: Uh, I still thought that the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: You know, look, I felt like the Cowboys got down

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Speaker 2: the road in these negotiations and something happened that turned

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Speaker 2: still don't know. I do think that he's he's in

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Speaker 2: for it. I wish they would have got more, you know,

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Speaker 2: the trade partner was a little different. Yeah, I wish

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I thought it was a it was an okay.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, if for you as a veteran,

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Speaker 4: if you if you saw one of your teammates laying

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Speaker 4: down on the table in the middle of a preseason, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there were a lot of those problems, right, So

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Speaker 2: I knew there were some incidents that probably took place

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Speaker 5: And I won't even get into those.

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Speaker 2: I won't even get into those because that's that's a

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Speaker 2: locker room deal and you got to handle that. But

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Speaker 2: if the character is not there and you don't you

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Speaker 2: don't like that character.

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Speaker 5: Then yeah, I mean then it's time to go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, well let's let's take We're gonna take

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Speaker 4: a quick break here, real quick. We got a couple

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Speaker 4: of calls on the line. We're gonna take quick break.

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Speaker 4: All right back here on Cowboys Storyline. I've got Darren

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Speaker 11: Oh, that's not a problem at all. It's great to

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Speaker 11: Good, excellent. Well, we're known for our royal family over

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Speaker 11: On a personal level, how do you think he's been

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, thank you for the call, Mike.

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Speaker 5: That's great. That's a great question. Have you had you

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Speaker 2: When the defense has played well in the office hasn't

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Speaker 2: They have diffused it for now, but again this changed.

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Speaker 5: Who played shut down? We'll go back way back and.

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Speaker 4: Forth, especially with the weather turning, and sometimes there'll be

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Speaker 12: Oh lord, I'm talking to our NFL legend here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's already should already be. What do you got, Mike?

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Speaker 12: I just got one quick question because I know people

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 12: The Cowboys they against Washington, they played a lot of

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Speaker 5: Good question? I think I think it depends on the personnel. Honestly.

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Speaker 2: Look, you know you saw the I want to call

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Speaker 2: Now you play this week. Who they have this week?

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Speaker 2: They got Denver with Sutton. Yeah on the outside, that's

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Speaker 2: They're very good this week. When they kept it simple,

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Speaker 4: You know, we talk about the fact of you don't

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Speaker 5: Gotta get there. Yeah, you can't allow guys.

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Speaker 2: You can blitz all you want, but if you can't

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Speaker 4: And also when the playing zone, when you play zone,

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Speaker 5: It goes back to the minimal mistakes. You know, one thing.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson used to always says, Look, I can get

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Speaker 2: over the fact that physically you may get beat physically,

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Speaker 2: the guy may be faster than you, may be stronger,

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Speaker 2: But he would never do it. Was no excuse for

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Speaker 2: giving a blowing a coverage. There was zero excuse for

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Speaker 2: blowing the coverage. And that's that's the key to great defenses.

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Speaker 2: When you guys are all connected, you understand where you're

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Speaker 2: supposed to be, and that's how you play good zone coverage.

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Speaker 2: You can pass off guys, you can have your eyes

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Speaker 2: But that's how you play good zoned coverage is when

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Speaker 4: All right back here on Cowboys Storyline presented by Gillette.

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Speaker 4: Darren Woodson still with us. We you know how it

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Speaker 4: goes here on Tuesdays. We got the TV show that

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Speaker 4: we tape. Now we're just here and now we can

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Speaker 4: just roll for a little while. Randy and Texas Canada.

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Speaker 4: What he is one of my favorite callers ever. He's

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Speaker 4: from the same hometown where my mom lives. Randy texta Canda,

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Speaker 4: what's up? Man?

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Speaker 13: Hey, man, you ain't gotta go through all that, Darren.

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Speaker 13: Those who line the man prayed for me and I

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Speaker 13: pulled through.

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Speaker 4: That's true, that's true, that's right.

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Speaker 15: Right.

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Speaker 13: I recorded that on my photos on my phone. I've

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Speaker 13: showed everybody that video. I was proud of it.

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Speaker 4: That's right, man.

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Speaker 13: That was pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: You you have You've had the biggest win of anybody

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Speaker 4: so far.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So, and I know you hate talking about it, so

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Speaker 4: let's just keep going. Man, what do you got for Woody?

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Speaker 13: Well, first of all, I know what he could hit

499
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Speaker 13: back in the day, so I'm I'm assuming he can

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Speaker 13: still hit reach over and smack Nick for me.

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Speaker 5: You gonna ask me to do that? Randy?

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Speaker 13: Yesterday, Miss Camil called in and to me, it just

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Speaker 13: felt like he was trying to rush his own mama

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Speaker 13: off the phone. I'm like, dude, let Robin Vegas can wait.

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Speaker 13: Let that woman talk.

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Speaker 16: She didn't even bring up me.

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Speaker 13: I was waiting on her to talk about me. She

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Speaker 13: didn't even do it. I was like, come on, Nick,

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Speaker 13: let the woman talk.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, in the world, Randy. Randy, when when you

511
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Speaker 4: were younger and then wood he can relate. You got

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Speaker 4: your mom on the phone. I mean, you're just trying

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Speaker 4: to get off the phone. Don't matter if whatever. He's

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Speaker 4: just like all right, you know because if the longer

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Speaker 4: he talks the horse, he's gonna ask you to take

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Speaker 4: out the trash or do something.

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Speaker 13: Just you just you just praise you was gonna tell

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Speaker 13: us something you don't want too?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Maybe all right, Rady?

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Speaker 4: What you got, man?

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Speaker 15: Uh?

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Speaker 13: Not much. I just won't talk to day and I

524
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Speaker 13: was just just man. I saw him on that. I

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Speaker 13: was like, hey, I got to get in already.

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Speaker 9: Yep.

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Speaker 13: Uh No, Man, that was so exciting for me to

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Speaker 13: talk to you last time. I had to get back

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Speaker 13: in and talk to you again and let you know

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Speaker 13: everything went well. I'm back in my truck, I'm back

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Speaker 13: at work, guys.

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Speaker 16: Really heck.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, so that was awesome seeing you on TV the

534
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Speaker 13: other day too. Over on the sideline in New Jersey.

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Speaker 13: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you know what, Randy, we had a great time,

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Speaker 2: and it's been a long time since all the guys

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Speaker 2: have gotten together. But to sit there and watch the

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Speaker 2: game and then you know what's crazy is you play

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Speaker 2: this game. I played this game for thirteen twelve years

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Speaker 2: here in the in the NFL, and you know, all

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Speaker 2: those years in college. But you get on the sideline

543
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Speaker 2: and you've been away from it for a while, and

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Speaker 2: then you see these guys walk out and you're like, damn,

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Speaker 2: they're huge, man, Like why, I mean, I played this game,

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Speaker 2: but like you really have to reset yourself in mind

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Speaker 2: to think, man, this was these guy's big.

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Speaker 5: They're hitting hard and you know they're getting after it,

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Speaker 5: and uh.

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Speaker 2: They just felt like they were that much bigger than

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Speaker 2: than I remember.

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Speaker 13: Well that that's kind of crazy that you bring that up,

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Speaker 13: because that was gonna be my question for you, and

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Speaker 13: if you if you got something off the top of

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Speaker 13: your head there to tell us a quick little story

556
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Speaker 13: about is there. I know you was a good hitter.

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Speaker 13: I like how you hit. But was there a player

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Speaker 13: in your day that when you saw him you were like, uh,

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Speaker 13: I'm gonna do one of these deon?

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Speaker 5: No, man, you know why, let me tell you why. Like,

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Speaker 5: of course you saw.

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Speaker 2: There were guys that I saw and I was like, man,

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Speaker 2: that's a They had a running back in that land.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember his name, big boy man. He's tall

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Speaker 2: to sixty three or so. He was just running over people. No, no,

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Speaker 2: he was like he was the backup. He was number

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Speaker 2: forty something.

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Speaker 5: I remember.

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Speaker 13: He was probably a little crazy too.

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Speaker 5: Said he was a huge.

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Speaker 2: He's a huge if I saw him hit John Lynch

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Speaker 2: in a game, and I was like, goodness, lord, not

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Speaker 2: I mean on his butt, but I was, you know,

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Speaker 2: I saw him. And there were a few other Brandon Jacob's.

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Speaker 2: I think it was coming in right when I was

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Speaker 2: going out. But there are some big big run Rodney

577
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Speaker 2: Hampton was a big running back. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: When you when you play a guy and you play

579
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Speaker 2: the position that I played at the safety position. You

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Speaker 2: can't have that mentality of back down, like there's no

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Speaker 2: back down in you, like there is a there's a

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Speaker 2: mindset that you have because not only are you having

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Speaker 2: to do your job, but there's fifty three other dudes

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Speaker 2: who are watching you do your job, Like I'm serious,

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Speaker 2: So watching film the next day and you're cowering and

586
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Speaker 2: your your teammates are watching you. Not feel that hole, No, man,

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Speaker 2: that ain't happening, dude, like I'm feeling it. I am

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Speaker 2: feeling it, and and.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's feast or famine right Well, Randy, thank

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Speaker 4: you so much for the call. Man. You know, we

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Speaker 4: got to keep it rolling, always doing to hear from you.

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Speaker 5: You're hearing from you ready.

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Speaker 4: You know, we've done the documentary on you and where

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Speaker 4: you grew up and had some tough times early on.

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Speaker 4: You know, some of the some of the places where

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Speaker 4: you're around, where you lived, and some of the people

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Speaker 4: that you kind of ran around with or whatever, and

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Speaker 4: so being scared wasn't something that do a lot. So

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Speaker 4: when it's almost like when you got to NFL, it's like, no,

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Speaker 4: I'll show you what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I think there's always fear, like

602
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Speaker 2: there's there's a misnomer there.

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Speaker 5: I think there's always some type of doubt in you.

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Speaker 2: Like how the question is how do you overcome the doubt?

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Speaker 5: Like I firmly believed in.

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Speaker 2: Myself, Like I believed in my abilities until this day.

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Speaker 5: Even in the business world.

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Speaker 2: Man, I believe in myself because I do what I

609
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Speaker 2: do do well is I prepare well. And when you

610
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Speaker 2: can prepare the right way and firmly believe in your

611
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Speaker 2: skill set, then that's you. You become dangerous. You really

612
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Speaker 2: become dangerous. And the great ones that I've watched over

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Speaker 2: the years of Dion Sanders, man there was true belief

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Speaker 2: in his capabilities, Like he walked on the field knowing

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Speaker 2: he was the guy. Michael Urban walked on the field

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Speaker 2: knowing he was a guy. And I firmly felt like

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Speaker 2: when I walked on that football field, man, we could

618
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Speaker 2: I could be as nice as I wanted to be

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Speaker 2: in the locker room and have a fun and all that.

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Speaker 2: But when you cross that line, dude, it's it is

621
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Speaker 2: a totally different game. It's yeah, could you know here's

622
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Speaker 2: the thing. People again, they count on you. Your teammates

623
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Speaker 2: are counting on you to be that dog. So be

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Speaker 2: that dog.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I remember a time, you know when you weren't

626
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Speaker 4: so nice in the locker room either. Man, I was

627
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Speaker 4: always nice in the locker really when the dominoes were out.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, when I was different. Man, that was.

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Speaker 4: A quick story around that stuff. The team wasn't good,

630
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Speaker 4: the two thousand and two teams, it wasn't wasn't that

631
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Speaker 4: good and had a chance to be, uh, just just

632
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Speaker 4: competitive all the every week. And I remember Woody saying, hey,

633
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Speaker 4: we got to get because a lot of people were

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Speaker 4: playing dominoes and cards in there. We got to get

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Speaker 4: the dominoes out of the locker room. Well, the problem

636
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Speaker 4: was the guy that was playing the dominoes was Emmit Smith.

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Speaker 4: He was he was the main guy, so he was

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Speaker 4: I remember that being kind of tricky because you're trying

639
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Speaker 4: to do your thing being lead. But it was like,

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Speaker 4: you know, well now you got.

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Speaker 2: It, and then it understood. I mean he absolutely understood

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Speaker 2: where we were. I mean it was just a conversation

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Speaker 2: and hey, look, I think every locker room is different,

644
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Speaker 2: but there's a point, a time and point when you

645
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 2: got to feel it, like, you know, where are we

646
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 2: in this season, you know, things were going good. Hey,

647
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Speaker 2: I don't care guys playing much dominards they want, but

648
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: the reality is things weren't going good, and you know,

649
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 2: we were missing assignments and thinking guys weren't showing up late,

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Speaker 2: and we weren't as a discipline of the team. So

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Speaker 2: I think that's when you got to, you know, really

652
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Speaker 2: get your mindset back on what's important and what's important.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't you know, the card games and dominant? What was

654
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Speaker 2: important was the football?

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Speaker 4: All right, let's go back to the phone lines Robbie

656
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Speaker 4: and Koco Beach, Florida. Robbie, what's up, Nick?

657
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Speaker 6: What's up?

658
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Speaker 17: Mister Woodson?

659
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Speaker 3: How you doing?

660
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Speaker 5: Rob?

661
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Speaker 17: I am outstanding man. Every time I've called, I never

662
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 17: I never got you. I did ask Nick a couple

663
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 17: a year ago, maybe if I, if I, if you,

664
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 17: what should I call you? And he said, call him

665
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 17: Darren or call him Woody. That's how he'd introduced himself.

666
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 17: And I was like, that's nice to know, man, So

667
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 17: appreciate that.

668
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I'm man. That's my dad's man.

669
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Speaker 17: Two questions. One, you guys probably can't answer. And if

670
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 17: even if you know, you probably aren't allowed because the

671
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 17: pr what's going on with Trayvon?

672
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 5: Two?

673
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 17: How did you two become friends? And I'll take it

674
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 17: off the air and listen and God bless you and

675
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 17: think and I really hope you make it this year.

676
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 17: You know you deserve it.

677
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 4: Thanks brother, thank you, Uh Trayvon. I mean, honestly, they're

678
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 4: really not saying, what's what's going on? He had he

679
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 4: got a concussion at home? What the story is? Which

680
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 4: of which of the four stories should I believe? And

681
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 4: I don't know, doesn't really matter what matters. I mean,

682
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 4: what really matters is is he going to be able

683
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 4: to play, you know, this week or next week? And

684
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 4: that's something they still don't know the answer to. They're frustrated.

685
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 4: They're frustrated because there are players, not just players, there's people.

686
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 4: Think about your own office, think about people you go

687
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 4: to school with. If it ain't one thing, it's another, right, Okay,

688
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 4: it always is, And that those people are frustrating because

689
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 4: you know they're talented, but it's just hard to trust

690
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 4: on and off the field. Then I don't know how

691
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: to say it.

692
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: I don't either, and I don't know the situation. I'll

693
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: just call it what it is. I don't know the situation. No,

694
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: I didn't play this week, and I heard it was concussion.

695
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: That's as much as I actually know about the situation.

696
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: Now I can tell you this, it ain't good.

697
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 5: Whatever it is.

698
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: He's not here at the facility, and I'm not sure

699
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: if he showed up at the facility. If he has

700
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: not shown up at the facility, then it is definitely

701
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: not good.

702
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 4: Showed up yesterday. He showed up yesterday, but it's still

703
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 4: I don't think he was one hundred percent cleared concussion

704
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 4: protocol and all that. I think they sent him home.

705
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Speaker 4: From what I was being told there the other question,

706
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know. I mean, I don't know

707
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 4: if you'd say we're like great friends or whatever. I

708
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 4: don't know. Every time he mf's me, every time he

709
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 4: sees me, that's my friend. But this is what I'll

710
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 4: say about about Darren. I'll answer this part. I was,

711
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 4: oh god. It was probably second or third year working

712
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 4: for the Cowboys, might have been two thousand and one,

713
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 4: and it was a training camp. Joe Avazana was singing

714
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 4: up at some bar in which it's all falls and

715
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 4: I remember talking to you there. You know, it was

716
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 4: just who was just one night out and wichitall whatever.

717
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 4: And I remember talking to you and you were asking

718
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 4: questions like so you worked for the team or your

719
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: media or whatever, and I was kind of explaining a

720
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 4: little bit no player did. No player cares. Players don't

721
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 4: really know the difference between your mediator in the locker room,

722
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 4: you're not you're with us. Who knows who cares? You

723
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 4: were kind of asking questions, and I just remember that

724
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 4: you always were that way, where like you always treated

725
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 4: every person like a person, not just well he's media

726
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 4: or whatever. You just treat people the way.

727
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're regular folks. I just played a game.

728
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it's no different than and I guess in

729
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: my life, I've always been inquisitive too, man, And that's

730
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: the reason why I'm in the business, why I'm in

731
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: the commercial real estate, is that I'm I've always been

732
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: inquisitive to understand who's who am I working with one.

733
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Speaker 2: I'm going to see you every day, and you know,

734
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: I'm going to have my good days in my bad days,

735
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: just like anyone else. Just I'm no different than anyone else.

736
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: But I just want to know and get to know

737
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Speaker 2: people that I'm going to see every single day.

738
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Speaker 5: Now why wouldn't I want to know?

739
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 4: Well, you're just the most humble, humble superstar player that

740
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 4: I've ever seen. I mean seriously, because and I joke

741
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 4: about it all the time. Is that like you kind

742
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 4: of know the lay of the land here. There's one

743
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 4: side of the building is all cowboys and then the

744
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 4: other side is commercial businesses. And your office is over there,

745
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 4: was over there right still It is okay because I

746
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 4: know y'all we're talking about moving it. But this guy's

747
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: he can go anywhere he wants and he knows it,

748
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 4: but he doesn't. He's like he'll call me. He's called

749
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 4: me before, like hey, can you escort me over here?

750
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 5: And I'm like, your.

751
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 4: Name is on the floorda yeah, man, But you don't

752
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 4: ever act like that. You don't ever act like you're

753
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 4: five time pro bowler that's in the Ring of Honor

754
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 4: and is going to be in the Hall of Fame.

755
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 5: I just you know what that means. Man. That's my mama.

756
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 5: My mom used to found it.

757
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 4: Chris, Chris, Chris is finding this big running back for

758
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Speaker 4: I think you found it.

759
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Speaker 6: D D.

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Speaker 5: Duck There you go, that's it.

761
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Speaker 6: D J.

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Speaker 4: Duckett A six four Michigan State.

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Speaker 2: You got to understand our locker room is back there, yeah,

764
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: from Michigan State, and our locker room back there at Dion,

765
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: Kevin Smith and all these guys. And we would watch

766
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: film and we would see like the opposing team and

767
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: the duck it was running guys over all the time,

768
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: and they're looking at me like, what you're gonna do?

769
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,239
Speaker 2: What what you're gonna do? Like and you know there

770
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: ain't no again, you can't. You got to stick your

771
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: chest up and show that you're gonna show up.

772
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 4: Hey. Now, if there was a T. J. Duckett for

773
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 4: the All Storyline Team, it's this next caller here right,

774
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 4: Sergeant Sue in fort Worth. All right, guns.

775
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 18: Magee here, hey, at ease, everybody.

776
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 13: Nick, how you doing, brother?

777
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 4: I'm good man? How you doing them?

778
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 12: You're doing great?

779
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 18: Woody?

780
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 15: How are you?

781
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 7: Hey?

782
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 6: Don't let them talk. Don't let them talk me up. Man,

783
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 6: I'm not a big guy.

784
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 4: Nah, you're you're the king of this medium, though you

785
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 4: know you are.

786
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 18: It's just great angles, great angles. But hey, first of all,

787
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 18: Woody Man, thank you so much for coming again on

788
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 18: the show. The YouTube chats blowing up.

789
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 13: We all love you, man.

790
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 18: We appreciate you. And you know you have a whole

791
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 18: army of storyliners in your corner. I'm not sure what

792
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 18: that means, but just so you know that you know

793
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 18: that's the.

794
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: Truth, you know.

795
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 18: And and yes, sir, yes, sir, my question for you,

796
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 18: and I know we touched on it a little bit,

797
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 18: and this is something that I talked to you before,

798
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 18: and I mentioned that I played safety like yourself. I

799
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 18: was very close to going the NFL, except I was

800
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 18: five to six, you know, so I.

801
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 6: Didn't really make it. But my question for you is is.

802
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 18: With with transitioning to his zone defense. I was trying

803
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 18: to explain to a lot of people and maybe I'm wrong,

804
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 18: and I'm not too proud to be to be corrected.

805
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 18: So when I was explaining it to people, I was

806
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 18: just talking about the eye discipline, you know, zone eyes

807
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 18: versus man eyes, and being able to see wide receivers

808
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 18: coming into your zone, wide receivers leaving your zone, communicating

809
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 18: when someone's leaving your zone into somebody else's zone, things

810
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 18: like that versus a man eyes. When you're kind of

811
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 18: watching the wide receiver's hips, you're trying to stay on

812
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 18: their hips, watching their eyes, washing their hands can you

813
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 18: kind of explain the difference between the two for maybe

814
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 18: linebackers and defensive backs and kind of explain why it's

815
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 18: stricty transitioning even for professionals. I'll take your call off.

816
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 18: I'll take your answer off the call.

817
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: Thank you have so much, Thank you perfect. I mean

818
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 2: you just described as such. I think you know better

819
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: than anybody. When you're playing man to man, that's your

820
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 2: guy and you're locked in on his hips. You're trying

821
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: to figure out where he's going to break. Is it

822
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: inside or is it outside. You're doing the count in

823
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: your head like you're covering him. Man, demand one thousand

824
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: and one, one thousand and two. That ball better be

825
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 2: out at one one thousand and three, right, So you're

826
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: trying to anticipate breaks. That is Manda, Man, he is

827
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 2: your guy. You get beat. That's on you zone. Totally

828
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: different zone is My eyes are more focused on the

829
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: quarterback and being able to pass off players. When players

830
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 2: in my zone and he interns another one, you pass

831
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: them off. You stay stay putt with My eyes are

832
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: directly trying to focus on the quarterback at all time.

833
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: How much did Dion ever play zone?

834
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: Not much, dude, you know what I came in the league.

835
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: We played two coverages before Dion even got here. We

836
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: played what we call Cover four, which is like kind

837
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 2: of man zone, a little bit, a little mix. Uh,

838
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: and then we played Cover one. Yeah, we didn't play

839
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: Cover two. I didn't play Cover two until years the

840
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: year seven or eight in my in my career. Dion

841
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: came in and we try to play a little Cover

842
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: four and didn't work. We had to play Manda Man

843
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: and that's what we were, a Manda Man team.

844
00:36:58,719 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 5: That's funny.

845
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 4: Dean could play man and zone at the same time

846
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 4: because he would bait his receiving Yeah he would. He

847
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 4: would like, you know, trail they so he can get

848
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 4: a play.

849
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he could get a play. I mean he

850
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: used to watch this guy. I mean, man, just you

851
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: talk about just being a phenomenal you know, God made

852
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: Deon Sanders play cornerback.

853
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 5: Yeah he did. He's like, hey, man, Jesu, this is

854
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 5: what you do in baseball and baseball right.

855
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: But but at the cornerback position, he had the best hands.

856
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: And you always measure an athlete by great hands, great feet.

857
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 5: Uh.

858
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: And people don't realize how strong he was at the

859
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. I mean, Dion was a strong football player,

860
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: but when he played the game, he was smart. He

861
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: you know, study his butt off and do all the

862
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: little things. But he was gifted. He had a gift

863
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: to play that position. But you know, watching him prepare

864
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: week in and week out, man, it was phenomenal. I

865
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: was one of those guys that used to just admire

866
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: Hi because all you hear about is Prime Time and

867
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: see on Monday, you know him putting this time man good.

868
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 4: That's awesome. Okay, we got a chance for a couple

869
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 4: more calls here, Rick in Massachusetts. Rick, what's up?

870
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 15: Hey, Nick? How you doing good?

871
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 5: Man got with this?

872
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 15: Yeah, what's up, Boddy? How are you doing great?

873
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 5: Man doing great?

874
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 15: Yeah? As far as said that, the uh Cowboys nation

875
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 15: and storyliners believe you're you're in the Hall of Fame.

876
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 15: I know you'll get there soon, but uh we all

877
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 15: agree that you know you're in the Hall of fame

878
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 15: as far as we're concerned.

879
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 5: Well, thank you. I appreciate that you got a question.

880
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 15: Yeah, no, just call and talk. But uh talk to

881
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 15: Buddy and you Nick and everything. But keeping with everything

882
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 15: going and I'll talk to you guys later.

883
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 4: Thanks. Appreciate. All right, We're gonna keep it rolling now.

884
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 4: Josh in Chicago, Josh, what's up?

885
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 16: Hey, guys? What are you good to talk to you?

886
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 16: Thanks for being here. I was actually giving Nick a

887
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 16: hard time a couple of sco saying when's what are

888
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 16: you going to be back?

889
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 5: Right?

890
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 4: That's right man.

891
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 16: I was trying to get on here so bad today.

892
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 16: I was like, if I don't get to talk to Woody,

893
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 16: I'm going to be so.

894
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 4: Upsetsh you pulled some strings, you got it working.

895
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 16: Yeah, thanks, thanks for being with us. And I'll just

896
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 16: echo what everyone says when the Hall of Fame announcement comes.

897
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 16: Please you know something somehow NFL has to do it

898
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 16: on this show for you, you know, like that's what's

899
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 16: got to really happen.

900
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 4: What's weird is that you're gonna know right now? The

901
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 4: way it is like that, I don't know how well

902
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 4: they find out. They kind of tell you beforehand, right

903
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 4: a little bit or.

904
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: Okay, So what's the they do? They show up at

905
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: the house. I've been watching them show up at Guy's house.

906
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: So the guys I know. Eric Allen didn't know. Last year,

907
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 2: he and I talked a lot. He had no idea.

908
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 4: But but when you go up like this year the

909
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 4: Super Bowls in San Francisco.

910
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 5: Oh you can't.

911
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you already know, you already know before you get there. Yeah,

912
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: but there was a problem be able to tell.

913
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 4: Me whether or not I should get my fight.

914
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 16: Or hopefully you'll have one.

915
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 4: I'm going, man, I'm doing.

916
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: That's probably why they won't put me, because you know

917
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: I'm a blast and I'll put it on all social A.

918
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 4: Great day though, that's going to be a party. I

919
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 4: cannot wait for you to come in. This isn't gold,

920
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 4: This is kind of brownish. I can't wait for you

921
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 4: to come in here with with Are you not gonna

922
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 4: wear your gold because you're so humble, You're not ever

923
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 4: going to do that?

924
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 5: Wear it everywhere. I'm wear it everywhere. Man, I almost

925
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 5: go show up.

926
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Speaker 6: You know.

927
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: I saw Drew Pearson were here. Is everywhere for the

928
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: first nine months.

929
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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's gonna be Brian Broadest at the airport too, right,

930
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 16: Brian Brodis is going to see it on Twitter and

931
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 16: he's gonna be the one blowing it up to everyone.

932
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 4: All right, Josh, if you got a question for Woody,

933
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 4: let's do it quick.

934
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Speaker 16: Yes, sir, so, I actually so the question occup at

935
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 16: light today. The question that I asked Nick yesterday was

936
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 16: over the the past weekend with the homecoming game and everything.

937
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 16: Who is somebody that you really like seeing in a

938
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 16: good conversation you had. And also if you got any

939
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 16: Doll Parcels or Antonio Bryant stories, I think those would

940
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 16: be cool to hear. I've read the book.

941
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Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, that.

942
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 5: Was a great one.

943
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: Man.

944
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 2: You know, he's crazy. You forget, I forget about the story.

945
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: And I just saw ab about three four months ago

946
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: at the barbershop. He's doing well doing the straight it

947
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: owns a little business. He's doing well, very well. So

948
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: I was there when when that happened, when the when

949
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: uh Antonio threw his jersey, And it was crazy because

950
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: he threw his jersey at Coach Parcels and and I

951
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: don't think he I don't think he meant to throw

952
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: it at coach parts. I think he threw it, meant

953
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: to throw it and act and it hit Parcels. And

954
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: Parcels will tell you. He used to always tell me.

955
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: He says, hey, Woodson, I got one fight left to me,

956
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: and I'm saving it for your ass. That's what he'd

957
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 2: always say to me. Right, But Parcels is, you know,

958
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: he's a Jersey guy. He's tough. He got that you know,

959
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 2: a little tough man about him. And he had no

960
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 2: back down, he had zero. Like he got so old pissed.

961
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: I mean the jersey hit him. I think I think

962
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: Ab wasn't throwing a jersey at him. I think he

963
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: was trying to throw it and it hit him and

964
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: they had to pull Parcels charged him, they had to

965
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: pull him back. But it was it was funny and

966
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 2: it all happened. It was one reason why it happened.

967
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: It was because of Keishawn Johnson. Oh great, was the

968
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: reason why it happened. Ab was getting all the routes

969
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: on scout team. Everybo he ran a nine route, he

970
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: had to come back as a starter and and then

971
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: run a route again. And Keith Shan and some of

972
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: the older guys didn't want to get those routes, and

973
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: and Ab was walking back, running back, and he was like, man,

974
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: somebody else get me, and those guys didn't come in.

975
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: And then that's when he got pissed off, and and

976
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: just just the snowball from there.

977
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 5: But I look, man, Ab was a dude. Man he was.

978
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: He was talent these other ad like he really had

979
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 4: he was, man, yeah it all you know, just you

980
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 4: gotta yeah, it's gonna be everything, you know, everything and everything.

981
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 4: But he talent wise, boy, he was. He was outstanding,

982
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 4: all right, Darren. Always always a pleasure. I know you

983
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 4: got to go. We're gonna take our last break. Real

984
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 4: great what we're saying by you for real this time, Darren.

985
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 5: Appreciate it.

986
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 4: Can't wait. I can't wait for you to be and

987
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 4: wearing that gold jacket for sure. But also before all

988
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 4: that would love anytime you want to come back, Man,

989
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 4: you invite me. You have an open invitation. The doors invite.

990
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,360
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991
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 5: So well, we have someone's sitting in there that's.

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00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,680
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Speaker 4: All right back here on Cowboys storyline presented by Gillette. Boy,

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Speaker 4: it was great to get Darren Woodson on the show today.

1018
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 4: He's got so much, so much wisdom, so much uh uh.

1019
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 4: He's great with philosophy when it comes to football, but

1020
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 4: also he breaking it down x's and those talking about

1021
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 4: zone defenses and things like that. So so great. Uh,

1022
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 4: it's good to hear from you guys as well. We

1023
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 4: had Uh we had a few calls uh today, I

1024
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 4: know not as many because Darren, you know, was here

1025
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 4: and we wanted to hear a lot from him. Big

1026
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 4: game this week Denver, I mean this is where the

1027
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 4: Cowboys can can really kind of take advantage of the schedule. Uh,

1028
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 4: these are winnable games. I mean Denver's they won eight

1029
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,959
Speaker 4: in a row at home. They're five and two this year.

1030
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 4: If you see that game last week against the Giants,

1031
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 4: should have lost. Everyone knows that. But but they're winning.

1032
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 4: They're finding a way to win games. They had a

1033
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: lot of close games this year and so that they're

1034
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 4: winning some of them. Some of them they haven't. But

1035
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 4: but this it'll be it'll be that kind of game

1036
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 4: I would imagine. I think the Cowboys can can score

1037
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 4: some points on anybody. They're just gonna have to get

1038
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 4: get stops, figure out a way to get stops. It'll

1039
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 4: be a lot tougher to cover those receivers than it

1040
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 4: was against Washington. They got more talent there in Denver.

1041
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 4: But you know, bow Knicks is a runner. He's a

1042
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 4: guy that you that you certainly have to to, you know,

1043
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 4: watch when he gets out of the backfield. And also

1044
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 4: they have designed runs for him, so it'll you know,

1045
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 4: they haven't won. I was going to say this to

1046
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 4: to Woody. They haven't won in Denver since Darren Woodson

1047
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 4: was a rookie nineteen ninety two. That's how long it's been.

1048
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 4: Now we're talking about Darren going into the Hall of Fame.

1049
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: But they haven't won since then, and so they haven't played.

1050
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 4: Of course, they haven't play every year. They haven't won

1051
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 4: at all since nineteen ninety five they beat Denver at home.

1052
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 4: It's been thirty years. So then they've beaten the Broncos.

1053
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 4: So maybe this will be the year to turn things around.

1054
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 4: The Cowboys certainly need to figure out a way to

1055
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 4: do that. See if they can get some defensive stops.

1056
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 4: We'll see what's going on with tray Von Diggs. See

1057
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 4: if he returns to practice this week. All right. For

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Speaker 4: Chris Beam, I'm Nick Eatman, and for Darren Woodson, been

1059
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 4: a lot of fun here on Cowboys storyline. We'll see

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Speaker 4: you next time.

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