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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast from the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: I am Chad Millman, and today we have Colin Wilson

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Speaker 1: and Stucky our colleague football experts host on the Action

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Speaker 1: Network podcast. They are quickly becoming baseball and golf experts,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about what life is starting

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Speaker 1: They have been part of the Action crew doing NBA

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Speaker 1: they've been insightful, they've been fun, they've been great for betters.

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Speaker 1: Chemistry between the two of them is fantastic. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: is appropriate. I feel for Colin and Stucky. That's because

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Speaker 1: in our action world, our greatest joy is here in

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Speaker 1: Colin and Stuck, you talk about college football. If we

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Speaker 1: to keep us warm on the cold and lonely saturdays

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Speaker 1: that we have to spend pumpkin picking or looking at

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Speaker 1: foliage in the fall. And by the way, I mentioned

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Speaker 1: the action that we're podcast, do not forget to go

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Speaker 1: listen to that. We've got new episodes nearly every day

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Speaker 1: covering NFL Fantasy with Chris Raybon, Shawn Corner, Matthew Freedman.

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Speaker 1: We've got NFL betting with Stucky and Raybon. We've got

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Speaker 1: golf every Tuesday with Jason Sobell and Peter Jennings. And

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Speaker 1: now joining me in sadness and despair, Colin Wilson and Stucky. Boys,

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Speaker 1: What the freak are we gonna do? Mountain West done?

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Speaker 1: Mac done? Colin. I want to start with you Mac.

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Speaker 1: That's like for a better is as crushing as the

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Speaker 1: Big ten or Big twelve or anyone else decided to cancel.

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Speaker 1: It came at me fast, like the Mountain West is

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Speaker 1: one thing with Hawaii, the late night Hawaii sweats, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm really kind of saving myself money with

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Speaker 1: no Hawaii football games. That doesn't hurt as bad as

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Speaker 1: the MAC because the MAC is just pure utter chaos.

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Speaker 1: Tuesday's Wednesdays. And you think about all the election years,

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Speaker 1: how many times did I carl Obie Mama with Toledo

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Speaker 1: or the state of Minnesota with Bush And like that

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Speaker 1: election day Parlay is just gone. Now that Action is gone,

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Speaker 1: I'm not learning how to golf. Bet I am deep

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Speaker 1: into baseball. I just followed Josh Perry and who is

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Speaker 1: an Action Network contributor, And the first like three weeks,

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Speaker 1: I bet he I tailed add one shot. So like

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Speaker 1: I am free rolling golf right now. So shout to

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Speaker 1: Mr Parry and if you have to check out as

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Speaker 1: content too. So also a plug for another podcast. We're

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Speaker 1: recording a baseball one today, talk about the you know,

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Speaker 1: the new hitting environment to do betting rules all the

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Speaker 1: craziness that'll be out by the time this is out,

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Speaker 1: so make sure you check that out as well. With

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Speaker 1: myself comins aillo. Um, yeah, I'm depressed. I mean I

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Speaker 1: and I probably did that this summer. I mean it

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Speaker 1: was I was heartbroken after March Madness was having a

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Speaker 1: so I'm hoping at this point we get anything. The

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Speaker 1: just hoping for anything. Well, I think you guys are

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Speaker 1: the other day, Stucky, someone on Twitter came after you

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Speaker 1: college football happens. Yeah, there's been like ten or fifteen people.

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Speaker 1: Big Cat. I mean, I have like thirty five thousand followers,

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Speaker 1: and I hate to break it to somebody, but I

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Speaker 1: have zero influence on whether any conference or college football happens.

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Speaker 1: Because I can tell you that my company, my job,

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Speaker 1: my college football podcast, we'll all do a lot better

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Speaker 1: if college football happens. So yeah, people are are crazy

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Speaker 1: right now. The country's obviously polarized as ever in every

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Speaker 1: possible topic. It's even reached here. But unless I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: wouldn't let me throw Colin. You keep shaking your head

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot going on right now, all right,

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Speaker 1: So they have two questions. Number one, do we see

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Speaker 1: my opinion, if you have the money the donors to

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Speaker 1: into the All Bubble team. That tell me, if you'd

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Speaker 1: like to to update. I mean, I gotta, I gotta

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Speaker 1: replace Derek White and Thomas Bryant for Devin Booker and Dame.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's like literally no choice. Those guys have

433
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Speaker 1: just forced their way on it. Nobody expected the Sons

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Speaker 1: to make this type of run, and it's been bizarro

435
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Speaker 1: NBA because you have you have the Sons going undefeated

436
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Speaker 1: at the same time, Lucas averaging a triple double and

437
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Speaker 1: t J. Warren looks like Michael Jordan's so like they

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Speaker 1: gave t J. Warren up for cash considerations, they passed

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Speaker 1: on Luca for DeAndre Ayden, and they're still at the

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Speaker 1: same time thriving. Crazy to wrap your head around, but man,

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Speaker 1: I mean Michael Porter Jr. T J. Warren, Dame Lillard,

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Speaker 1: Devon Booker of course. So that's look. We had this

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Speaker 1: conversation yesterday when we did the lead past broadcast, Matt Moore.

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Speaker 1: I look at the Suns and like, I see Devin Booker,

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Speaker 1: I see DeAndre Eton and I think this team has

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Speaker 1: sort of an inside outside opportunity with two young superstars.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden to me, they are very much

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Speaker 1: in the conversation when it comes to the Grizzlies, the Pelicans,

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Speaker 1: the Blazers, who I think are actually believe it or

450
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Speaker 1: not getting a little older missing their window. But like

451
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Speaker 1: in the West, these young teams that can be super exciting.

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Speaker 1: I love the Sun's team. I love the Sun's team

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Speaker 1: like right now, if I had to buy sort of

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Speaker 1: a Sun's future for next year, let's say, to win

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Speaker 1: the Western Conference, I might do it just for fun. Wow. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well that's a that's a long way to go for

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Speaker 1: a team that still gonna finish under five hundred. But

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Speaker 1: I admire the bravado. Um I do think that they look.

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Speaker 1: I love the over on the Sun's win tol this year,

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Speaker 1: and I'm that's not gonna cash because that was the

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Speaker 1: biggest one that I put a position and on. I

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Speaker 1: loved that team going in in terms of having veterans

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Speaker 1: around Booker and Aden. They got rid of a bunch

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Speaker 1: of guys that didn't know what they were doing and

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Speaker 1: got them guys that know what they're doing. And when

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Speaker 1: you do that, you're gonna play better. And they get

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Speaker 1: a good coach that knows what he's doing. And Monty Williams.

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Speaker 1: I think that the key for the Suns is gonna

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Speaker 1: be Booker is going to improve, but the improvements that

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Speaker 1: he's gonna make now between when now and when he's

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Speaker 1: thirty are incremental. It's control of the game, it's understanding

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Speaker 1: how to manipulate officials, and which he was doing great yesterday.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it's little things. Etan's got a big

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Speaker 1: improvement curb. He can get much better. Um they need

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Speaker 1: Mchaal Bridges to become like a top flight defender and

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Speaker 1: three in d guy and they're gonna need Cam Johnson

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Speaker 1: to contribute. They still need more. They're probably one piece away.

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Speaker 1: But I do think that they have the potential to

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Speaker 1: be a real disruptor, I think in the Western Conference,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be fascinating to see if

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Speaker 1: they wind up getting at the play in what happens,

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Speaker 1: because if it's Blazers Grizzlies, I absolutely think the Blazers

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Speaker 1: are gonna smash him. It's Blaze her Sons, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be something. Justin giving your take on that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't even think Aiden's playing that well relative to

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Speaker 1: what he should be doing. He's averaging like sixteen and

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Speaker 1: ten since he's been in Orlando, which isn't that great.

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Speaker 1: For him honestly, and this team is still doing extremely well.

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Speaker 1: I mean they've been relying on guys like Javon Carter

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Speaker 1: and TAK commander Cameron Payne in that second unit, who's

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Speaker 1: taking command of that backup point guard job. So I

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Speaker 1: love what they're getting from the young guys. McHale Bridges

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Speaker 1: has been excellent defensively. He's had some kind of big

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Speaker 1: matchups and and limited opposing stars to uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: relatively quiet game. So this is a really fun team.

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Speaker 1: They're still missing a couple of guys too, you know

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Speaker 1: when they get healthy. Uh you know, Kelly Ubre, Aaron Baines,

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Speaker 1: two vets that that are important parts of this uh

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Speaker 1: this rotation. I'm like in their future. Yeah. So right now,

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Speaker 1: we're like so much time and energy is being spent

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Speaker 1: to me on the bottom of a Western Conference playoff race,

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Speaker 1: right because the Blair or lights out and Dame just

503
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: seems pissed at everybody, and the Pells have fallen out.

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Speaker 1: The Grizzlies were doing okay, but then Jaren Jackson has gone.

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Speaker 1: The Sons cannot lose, and Devin Booker is amazing. But

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Speaker 1: none of these teams are going to be teams that

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Speaker 1: sort of matter in the long run in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: if we look at the top I'm looking specifically at

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Speaker 1: the top of the Western Conference right now. Lebron and

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Speaker 1: Matt Moore. You mentioned this in the Action Network podcast

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Speaker 1: UH this past week with Preston Johnson. Lebron had his

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Speaker 1: sort of passive aggressive comments about the locker room, and

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Speaker 1: then since he said that, like the team has played

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Speaker 1: much much better, he has played much much better. You

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Speaker 1: were a big buyer on the Lakers. You were a

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Speaker 1: big buyer on the Lakers and the Bucks. I think

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Speaker 1: meeting in the finals, I know Justin is a much

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Speaker 1: bigger fan of the Clippers. Defend your Lakers position right now.

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Speaker 1: I think it's harder just because even though they played

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Speaker 1: better the other night versus the Nuggets, I think in

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Speaker 1: terms of overall chemistry and offensively, they still almost got

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Speaker 1: eat by Denver second unit. So like, that's not a

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Speaker 1: good book third unit, Matt, that's third unit, their third unit,

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Speaker 1: third unit. But it's bull bull ever a third unit. Um.

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Speaker 1: I do think though that My big thing with with

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Speaker 1: the Lakers is just that their floor is very high,

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Speaker 1: and in the first round they're gonna face either the

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Speaker 1: Blazers or Sons who are gonna have to have played

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Speaker 1: either either in a play in an emotional like comeback.

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Speaker 1: The Blazers defense is so bad that it's hard to

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Speaker 1: believe that they're gonna be able to pose a real challenge.

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Speaker 1: Um I'm I'm working that around in my head this morning,

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Speaker 1: whether the Blazers can do the unthinkable. But after that,

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Speaker 1: you know, if it's Houston, that gets really interesting. Like

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Speaker 1: I think the road for the Lakers that actually is

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Speaker 1: tougher um on paper as it stands right now, because

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Speaker 1: it's likely to be Blazers Houston and then Clippers, and

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Speaker 1: those are three really tough opponents they're gonna play, you know,

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Speaker 1: Damian Lillard, Kawhi Leonard and Paul George and James Harden

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Speaker 1: and Russell Westbrook. That's a lot to put in front

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Speaker 1: I think of a team. But I do think that

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Speaker 1: the Lakers all season have had a great combination of

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Speaker 1: defense and offense. They have weapons, they have Lebron and

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Speaker 1: a d and they have enough shooters I think still

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Speaker 1: around them to make something happen offensively enough to get

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Speaker 1: them by. I am not so much overly confident the

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Speaker 1: Clippers or in the Lakers right now, as I am

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Speaker 1: still not able to talk myself onto the Clippers bandwagon,

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Speaker 1: justin why are you still back in the Clippers. When

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Speaker 1: I look up top at what's happened in Orlando, I'm

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Speaker 1: not liking what I'm seeing from Milwaukee and from the

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Speaker 1: Lakers so far. On the Milwaukee side, I'm still concerned

553
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Speaker 1: about buds insistent and honestly stubbornness to stick with this

554
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Speaker 1: drop coverage. I mean, we saw this with Dallas with

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Speaker 1: Boston two recent games they dropped. He just sticking to it.

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Speaker 1: They're they're giving up these open jumptions. After open jumptions,

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Speaker 1: you can get hot and beat this team. We've talked

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Speaker 1: about this before. Miami bustin with their shooters, they can

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Speaker 1: give this Bucks team some problems. I'm still not buying

560
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Speaker 1: this Bucks team um as a legit contender, and I

561
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Speaker 1: think they're very vulnerable out East. And this Lakers team,

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Speaker 1: how can you be optimistic? They had trouble closing with

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Speaker 1: their starters versus the Nuggets third unit the other night.

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Speaker 1: They were actually trying hard to win the game. You

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Speaker 1: can see Lebron was really engaged and really into it,

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Speaker 1: and they still had to how to come away with

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Speaker 1: the wind off the Kyle Kuzma buzzer beater. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy how the Lakers team is looking. I'm still

569
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Speaker 1: not sold on their depth beyond a D and lebron

570
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Speaker 1: Their offense has looked atrocious. I agree with Matt that

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Speaker 1: the Clippers still have a lot of question marks. Montrese

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Speaker 1: Harrold has not played a game in Orlando. There. You know,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley is out um with a strained calf. They

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Speaker 1: have a lot of questions, but you know, there's still

575
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Speaker 1: have been some encouraging things like Paul George and Kauai

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00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: have both look great. Um, Jamichael Green has been a

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Speaker 1: nice little um you know, uh, surprise so far for them.

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Speaker 1: I think you could be an important piece and in

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Speaker 1: smaller lineups. Zoobach has looked great. So you know, if

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Speaker 1: you look at the top three teams, the Clippers, the Lakers, UM,

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Speaker 1: and the Bucks, the one team that hasn't really disappointed

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Speaker 1: so far in my opinion in Orlando are the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: So by default, um, I'm feeling a little better about them. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the Bucks, right, So actually, let me finish

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Speaker 1: the West because we did not talk about the Rockets enough,

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Speaker 1: and to me, from the beginning, the Rockets have been

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Speaker 1: the team that is most interesting. And if you're looking

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Speaker 1: to make a future's bet on a team that does

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Speaker 1: not have to worry about going on the road in

590
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, like give me James Harden and Russell Westbrook

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Speaker 1: in sort of neutral environments against the Clippers and against

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. I feel like that's where I'm finding some

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Speaker 1: future value. Yeah, and you always want the team that

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Speaker 1: that increases the variants as an underdog. You know that

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Speaker 1: they can shoot fifty sixty threes a game. They get hot,

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00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: they hit, they hit, you know, and and they're right

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Speaker 1: in any game. Um, and I like what I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: from D'Antoni. He's actually starting to rest as guys. We

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Speaker 1: saw James Harden get Tuesday's game off, Russell Westbrooks sitting

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Speaker 1: out Wednesday. They're getting air finally after an absence. He's

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Speaker 1: coming back Wednesday. So things are trending in the right

602
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Speaker 1: direction for this team. Jeff Green's playing some good minute Austin.

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Speaker 1: We had an Austin Rivers game the other night. So yeah,

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00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 1: the Rockets are still that team in the West that

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Speaker 1: if you want to take a lung Shop there by

606
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Speaker 1: far the clear choice for me. All Right, Matt Moore

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Speaker 1: again on the Action Network podcast last week, and this

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Speaker 1: helps us switch to the East a little bit. With

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Speaker 1: Preston Johnson, you talked about finals matchups, and Justin just

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Speaker 1: made a great case for why the Bucks are probably

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Speaker 1: not a team you should be betting on to make

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Speaker 1: the finals from the East, and you guys have both

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Speaker 1: said a bunch like, look at the Heat, look at

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Speaker 1: the Celtics. Now, the Sixers are a lot different because

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Speaker 1: they don't have Ben Simmons and they haven't been playing well,

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00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: especially Joel and Beat and Tito Horford together are not

617
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: that good on the floor. So there's a huge Like,

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Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference feels wide open to me. Got the

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Speaker 1: NBA is so good right now, it's so much fun.

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Speaker 1: But give me the case for a Rocket Celtics matchup

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Speaker 1: Matt Moore in the finals. So it comes down to this,

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Speaker 1: if Justin and I are kind of alignment that we're

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Speaker 1: probably gonna be betting the Heat, either in the series

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Speaker 1: price or per game versus the Bucks in the second round,

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00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: that we like that matchup a lot. Bucks played drop.

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Speaker 1: They play that drop coverage, They don't just play a

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00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: drop versus pick and roll. They do it on off

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00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: screen actions, to which means that the Heat, who run

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Speaker 1: the most handoffs and are the best handoff team in

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00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: the NBA, are coming around those screens and bombing with

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Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson and Kendrick Nunn and Jimmy Butler and even

632
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: and if they don't, they use the slip action with

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Speaker 1: Kelly olynnok, and he's a good shooter. They have all

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Speaker 1: these shooters, right, and that's what killed Milwaukee last year

635
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: is they couldn't hit shots and Toronto did and the

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00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: Heat have I think the most shooting around them. But

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Speaker 1: if they get past the Bucks with the Sixers now

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00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: not having Ben Simmons, that hurts their ability to get

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Speaker 1: past Boston. So now Boston faces Toronto, who I think

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Speaker 1: they match up very well with, and then the Eastern

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Speaker 1: Conference Finals, you'd have Heat versus Boston, and Boston's defense

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Speaker 1: is much more verse. They'll they have the shooters to

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Speaker 1: keep up with Miami. So now you have like this

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Speaker 1: real opportunity for Boston to suddenly come out of the

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference. And if you take them on the finals

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Speaker 1: matchups like at bet MGM, you can get Celtics Clippers

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Speaker 1: at plus and Celtics Lakers at plus two thousands, Like

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Speaker 1: those are just really good numbers for what you're looking

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Speaker 1: at in terms of trying to maximize your value the

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference odds for the for the Celtics, I think,

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Speaker 1: are you know they're they're plus five fifty to win

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Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference. That's pretty good numbers as well. UM,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's better than just betting them

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Speaker 1: round by round, but I do feel like there's reason

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Speaker 1: to go ahead and buy in. The problem though, is

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Speaker 1: and the big one that I think you have to

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Speaker 1: determine is will the Raptors beat the Celtics with the

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Speaker 1: Celtics beat the Raptors, and how did the heat match

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Speaker 1: up with those two? And I want to believe in

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Speaker 1: those three teams, the Celtics are the best. And that's why, Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna put it in a position on the

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Speaker 1: Celtics just and fired away. Yeah. I actually agree with

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Speaker 1: that line of reasoning because if you think the if

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Speaker 1: you think that the heat can give the Bucks and problems,

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Speaker 1: maybe both upset and it ends up being Celtics Raptors.

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Speaker 1: Celtics have gone three and one in the regular They

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Speaker 1: match up really well. The one Achilles heel for the

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Speaker 1: Celtics team is if they face a true post big

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Speaker 1: man like Joel and Be, that can given problems. You

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Speaker 1: look at this Toronto side. They have Marcus Soul Surge Ibaka,

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Speaker 1: big men that like to space it out, shoot from

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Speaker 1: shoot jumpers. They don't really have a true post threat. Um.

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Speaker 1: Pascal Siakam does a little bit of everything. He isn't

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Speaker 1: quite that Joel embiid, So that weakness that you know

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Speaker 1: at that center position is not exposed as much as

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Speaker 1: it should be. So uh, Kemma Walker he said he's

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Speaker 1: feeling great. His minutes slimon has been increased. Um. They

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Speaker 1: Gordon Hayward has looked great. And then you have Jalen

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Speaker 1: Brand and Jason Tatum so and Marcus Smart the ultimate

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Speaker 1: wild cards. So I I think that Celtics Clippers, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, finals matchup is a good investment to make,

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Speaker 1: just kind of if you kind of play out the

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Speaker 1: East and all these matchups and how they can go. Um,

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Speaker 1: I am very bullish on the Raptors in general, but

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Speaker 1: not as optimistic about them when they have to go

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Speaker 1: up against the Celtics team. Alright, justin fan Celtics Clippers final.

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Speaker 1: Can I say that as your final answer? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk all this snack about the Bucks, but

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Speaker 1: I still think they have enough to to make it

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Speaker 1: to the finals. Um. I think the Heat are going

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Speaker 1: to give them a real sweat, maybe take them a six, um,

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Speaker 1: maybe seven, But I think they'll have enough to emerge

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Speaker 1: out of the East. Um. But I think it'll just

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Speaker 1: be a lot closer than people think. And it would

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Speaker 1: be a bad bet based on their their price, to

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Speaker 1: to bet them to to win the East or to

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Speaker 1: make the final, because I think there are a lot

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Speaker 1: more vulner mole than than people think. But I'll still

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Speaker 1: take them, and my finals matchup will be Clippers versus Bucks.

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Speaker 1: With the Clippers winning, nobody becomes a legend bet and chalk.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm fading the most chalky team right now,

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Speaker 1: the Lakers right there, they're the favorite. All right, Matt Moore,

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Speaker 1: give me your final answer. My final answer is to

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Speaker 1: take Lakers, Celtics, Lakers, Clippers as a package and then wait,

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