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Speaker 3: dot com. Let's turn down to Syria shocking news over

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Speaker 3: the weekend. Three Americans killed in ice an ISIS attack

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Speaker 3: in Syria. Let's put this out here on the screen.

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Speaker 3: Two US soldiers and a civilian interpreter were killed while

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Speaker 3: quote supporting counter terror operations, the first US casualties in

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Speaker 3: Sirius since the fall of Bashar al Assad, so they said.

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Speaker 3: President Trump vowed Saturday to retaliate against ISIS after this

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Speaker 3: attack in central Syria killed to two US Army soldiers

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Speaker 3: and a civilian US interpreter. Again, I want everybody to

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Speaker 3: stick with me, because I think that we need to

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Speaker 3: put a magnifying glass on this. Something about this just

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Speaker 3: seems weird, doesn't seem to add all up. So the

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Speaker 3: soldiers were quote supporting counter terrorism operations against ISIS in Palmyra,

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Speaker 3: Central Syria, when they came under fire from a lone gunman.

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Speaker 3: Syrian security forces subsequently killed the gunmen three American military personnel.

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Speaker 3: Two members of the Syrian security force were also wounded

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Speaker 3: in the attack. So it's a total of five people

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Speaker 3: who we know or sorry of six US service members

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Speaker 3: and or personnel who were in the area, in addition

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Speaker 3: to two of these Syrian pro regime forces who are

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Speaker 3: wounded in the attack. They say, in the aftermath, American

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Speaker 3: helicopters are then deployed to evacuate the wounded to Altanaf

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Speaker 3: that's in southern Syria that's come under attack before. So

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Speaker 3: what this quote highlights, as they say, is challenges for

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Speaker 3: the Syrian government. What it highlights to me is what

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Speaker 3: are we doing here? You've got a thousand guys in

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Speaker 3: Syria for what exactly?

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Speaker 1: And doing what you know?

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Speaker 3: And listen, like I said, if you read the internal thing,

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Speaker 3: it says The attack unfolded outside of building where Syrian

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Speaker 3: Interior Ministry officials from the capital were meeting with their

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Speaker 3: counterparts in the city. American soldiers and interpreter were providing

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Speaker 3: security outside when a lone gunman opened fire from a

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Speaker 3: nearby building with what appeared to be a machine gun.

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Speaker 3: Syrian security forces open fire killed the gunmen. The American

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Speaker 3: soldiers killed were part of Iowa National Guard contingent assigned

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Speaker 3: to the Syrian mission now. A spokesmerson for the Syrians

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Speaker 3: said that the Syrian government had warned American counterparts about

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Speaker 3: the possibility of attacks by ISIS on their forces. Quote,

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Speaker 3: the international Coalition did not take Syrian warnings the possibility

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Speaker 3: of an ISIS breach into account. This is what I

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Speaker 3: mean about the circumstances of this is. First of all,

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Speaker 3: you've got this meeting that's going on here, right, You've

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Speaker 3: got the SDA apparently, who were still kind of involved.

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Speaker 1: We've got these Syrian regime guys.

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Speaker 3: Then you've got US service members providing security for a

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Speaker 3: meeting of what they said, some coalition style group. Why

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: This is after the president had eight almost seven eight

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Speaker 3: the White House, I said we were withdrawing from Syria.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we've been in Syria for eleven years, We've

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Speaker 3: Iowa National guardsmen providing security outside of a building, you know,

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Speaker 3: for what exactly without a requisite amount of support. And

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Speaker 3: So everything around this smells something's not right in my opinion,

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Speaker 4: Them, except they've been bombing and constantly.

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Speaker 1: Right, except that they're bombing them too, right.

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Speaker 3: But that kind of gets to the whole, like what

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Speaker 3: Nobody can answer this question to fight isis.

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Speaker 5: And I don't I don't understand the National Guard part,

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Speaker 5: Like there's the thirty thousand foot part that is utterly bizarre.

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Speaker 5: But we have a Delta force, we have infantry, we

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Speaker 4: Why are we calling up people.

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Speaker 5: From Iowa in the National Guard to go over to

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Speaker 4: That just seems that just seems off.

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Speaker 5: And Iowa absolutely cannot catch a break like there their

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Speaker 5: You know, lots lots of other issues going on with Iowa.

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Speaker 5: But so the political context in Syria, you've got the

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Speaker 5: which is allied with the United States. They used to

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Speaker 5: be in conflict with al Shara and those other forces. Uh,

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Speaker 5: they're now years and they have they still have this

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Speaker 5: Rojava area, which is they consider to be this liberated

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Speaker 5: The Syrian central government is saying, you've got to integrate,

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Speaker 5: You've got to integrate with the rest of the country.

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Speaker 5: We've got to got to have a country. And so

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Speaker 5: then they're negotiating the terms of that. How much autonomy

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Speaker 5: is like absolutely not like Turkey air to one despises

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Speaker 5: the SDF and basically wants them to not to exist.

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Speaker 5: Turkey is going through its own negotiations with its own

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Speaker 5: and so driving them out would be to the benefit

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Speaker 5: Syrian central government. So if you're just going by cold

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Speaker 5: calculus of who might have been who had the incentive

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Speaker 4: Syria Central government too.

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Speaker 3: They're saying that he's a former member of the Syrian

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Speaker 3: government who then went ISIS So you know, right, and look,

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Speaker 3: I do think to me what it highlights is why

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Speaker 3: wou we have national guardsh been there in the first place?

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Speaker 1: They should not be there.

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Speaker 3: The National Guard should be you know, cleaning up hurricanes

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Speaker 3: providing security for god knows what you know, and then

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Speaker 3: putting themselves in harm's way, and nobody can coherently explain

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Speaker 3: to the American people, here's why there's one thousand people. Well,

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Speaker 3: they were there to defeat ISIS. Like, well, I thought

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Speaker 3: we defeated ISIS. Now they were killed by ISIS, and

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Speaker 3: now that means we need to stay more so that

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Speaker 3: can put more of our guys in harms way.

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Speaker 1: We just never leave. I mean, it's an eleven year deployment.

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Speaker 4: Now we can coherently explain, you know, why we.

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Speaker 5: Should leave, and yeah, that's right, that's easy. A much

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Speaker 5: younger Trump did exactly that. Let's roll President Trump almost

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Speaker 5: so this was December nineteenth, twenty eighteen, so seven years

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Speaker 5: almost exactly seven years ago. Here's the forty fifth president

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Speaker 5: of the United States.

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Speaker 6: We've been fighting for a long time in Syria. I've

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Speaker 6: been president for almost two years, and we've really stepped

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Speaker 6: it up and we have won against ISIS. We've beaten them,

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Speaker 6: and we've beaten them badly. We've taken back the land

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Speaker 6: and now it's time for our troops to come back home.

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Speaker 6: I get very sad. And when I have to write

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Speaker 6: letters or call parents or wives or husbands of soldiers

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Speaker 6: who have been killed fighting for our country. It's a

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Speaker 6: great honor. We cherish them. But it's heartbreaking, there's no

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Speaker 6: question about it. It's heartbreaking. Now we've won, it's time

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Speaker 6: These are great American heroes. These are great heroes of

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Speaker 4: So Donald Trump making a lot of sense. Back then,

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Speaker 4: you covered this.

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Speaker 3: I was there, so it was literally to what happened nothing.

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Speaker 3: Mattis resigned over this, right over this policy.

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Speaker 4: Mad Dog was furious.

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Speaker 3: This, by the way, was I remember, this was a

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Speaker 3: The fact is that the military was stonewalling at which

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Speaker 3: like that. And this is ultimately what broke the camel's back,

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Speaker 1: But ultimately, I mean, matdis won in the end. They

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Speaker 1: all did.

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Speaker 3: Never left, just never leave, Like once you're in, you

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Speaker 3: alton I remember those multiple soldiers who were killed in

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Speaker 1: Remember that. I mean, there's all there for some reason.

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Speaker 3: Once we established a place, we can never leave, no

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Speaker 3: matter how many one death, two death, three deaths. That

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Speaker 3: these people are in harms way, no one can explain it,

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Speaker 3: No one can ever explain it to anybody the time.

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Speaker 5: The New York Times coverage at the time is indicative

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Speaker 5: put up C four. The lead of the story tells

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Speaker 5: you everything. And President Trump was ordered the withdrawal of

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Speaker 5: to a military campaign that largely vanquished the Islamic state

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because you I have a former al Qaeda literally

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Speaker 5: The international summit that the world has been waiting for

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Speaker 5: I have agreed that public discussions, live streams and tweets

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Speaker 4: Right, thank you for sure's mentioned to this matter.

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Speaker 3: Candace has responded this morning, I am very much looking

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Speaker 5: There you go, so sun it. So the context here

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Speaker 7: He was murdered three months ago. If you go on

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Speaker 7: I think there's also a new theory that Egyptian aircraft

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Speaker 7: Why are there so many conspiracies spreading about what seems

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Speaker 8: This is the first time that we have seen evil

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Speaker 7: You believe that Tyler Robinson murdered your husband?

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Speaker 7: Why do you think it is so hard for so

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Speaker 8: Again, everyone always has to think there's more to the story. Well,

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Speaker 1: I've seen it all.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, look, you put those two things together

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Speaker 3: no ideas. So what people tried to do was rationalize it.

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Speaker 3: And I've had this fight. A lot of these people

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Speaker 3: are my friends, Darryl for example, my martyr Maide. I

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Speaker 3: had that whole post about you know, imagine all these

441
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Speaker 3: things have happened to you and that's why you feel

442
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Speaker 3: the election was stolen. I mean, I'm pretty sure I

443
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Speaker 3: said this to them in person. I was like, dude,

444
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Speaker 3: like I just don't agree with that at all. Or

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Speaker 3: there was all these books written about hi I call

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Speaker 3: it high IQ stop this year right and be like, oh, well,

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Speaker 3: actually zucker Bucks and.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's not the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Like you're a content that when you say that you're

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Speaker 3: talking about influence the Time magazine piece, remember fortify the election.

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Speaker 1: That is not the same thing.

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Speaker 3: That's not the same thing as Venezuela and dominions who

453
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Speaker 3: stole the election. Like that's what Trump means. And by

454
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Speaker 3: the way, that's what the people who listen to him mean.

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Speaker 4: I know, I met what Trumps to overthrow Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: No, I would tell you, man, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one, I couldn't even get into Uber

458
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Speaker 3: without people and be like, hey man, let me the election,

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Speaker 3: like you really believe, right, is somebody calling you and

460
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Speaker 3: telling you I'm serious.

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Speaker 1: This happened like dozens of times. I know it.

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Speaker 3: I could see it for real, Like the people who

463
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Speaker 3: believe this stuff, they believe it for real, like actually,

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Speaker 3: And so that was one of the original sins well,

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Speaker 3: because the demand is always you have to listen to

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Speaker 3: what Donald Trump is saying.

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Speaker 1: That's the only empirical, you know, truth that exists.

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Speaker 3: And once you kind of create that, well, Trump himself,

469
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Speaker 3: in a vacuum, has created a place where reality is

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Speaker 3: not reality, where any discussion of facts or of empirical

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Speaker 3: any discussion of facts of reasonable thinking and in general,

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Speaker 3: of a systemic belief that somebody has quote out to

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Speaker 3: get you, which is and by the way, what's difficult

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Speaker 3: about this Sometimes it's.

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Speaker 1: True a lot of the times.

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Speaker 3: Actually it is true a lot of the times about

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Speaker 3: the deep state or conspiracy. And this is what makes

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Speaker 3: yearn my job so difficult. For example, about reporting around

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Speaker 3: Epstein Israel is the amount of effort that you and

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Speaker 3: I put into fact checking, to making sure that everything

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Speaker 3: that we say is backed up to validate people's real

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Speaker 3: feelings around the world while giving them the facts to

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Speaker 3: be able to color that in. It's it's made so

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Speaker 3: much harder by a world where everyone can just color

485
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Speaker 3: in the lines with whatever they want. They pretend like

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Speaker 3: defamation law and facts just don't exist. And that's you know,

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Speaker 3: a road to getting really really hot on the internet.

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Speaker 1: This is not just about Candice Owns. This is like

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Speaker 1: an entire ecosysm.

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Speaker 3: That's why there's crocodile teels tears around this for people

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Speaker 3: saying indulging conspiracy, thinking Stop the Steal was the ultimate conspiracy,

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Speaker 3: and everybody tried to justify it by.

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Speaker 1: Saying, oh, these people feel disin front.

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Speaker 3: It's not this like no, and look I maybe even

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Speaker 3: guilty of that, not on Stop the Steel, but in

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Speaker 3: some other instances.

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Speaker 1: And you're like, what, for example, I'll give you one

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Speaker 1: the Haitian cats thing. Right, this is a bullshit story.

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Speaker 1: It's bullshit, right, And you know, at.

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Speaker 3: The time, I was like, well, you know what this

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Speaker 3: is is about people in Springfield who were pissed off

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Speaker 3: at the Haitians. And you know, while yes, what Trump

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Speaker 3: said was a lie, et cetera, that doesn't mean that

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Speaker 3: people there, and you know, to be fair also, you know,

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Speaker 3: all the whole Left to Pearl clutched around this was like, actually,

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Speaker 3: the people of Springfield love Haitians. And it's like, well,

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Speaker 3: Springfield dramatically.

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Speaker 1: Voted for Trump.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so like, let's be honest too around all of

510
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Speaker 3: those dynamics. But the truth is is that if you

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Speaker 3: normalize and create an environment where stuff like that is

512
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Speaker 3: just done and dusted and is accepted as truth, there

513
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Speaker 3: will be shocking consequences to all of that in the future.

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Speaker 3: Where TPUSA was a right wing institution, right that was

515
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Speaker 3: led by Charlie Kirk, but Charlie himself was not immune

516
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Speaker 3: to this. He had to indulge a lot of stop

517
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Speaker 3: the steel bullshit he called constantly.

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Speaker 1: He was constantly his entire role was like trying to

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Speaker 1: paper over fractures in the MAGA coalition, both from Israel.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, that was just one of many other things.

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Speaker 3: And you know, to give a shout out to Richard

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Speaker 3: Hannania where he's just empirically correct, is if you're going

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Speaker 3: to have a shift in the dynamics of like who

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Speaker 3: identifies with different political parties if one of them is

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Speaker 3: going to lose people who are college educated and to

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Speaker 3: indulge like a vast array of people who have come

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Speaker 3: to politics online and who are not familiar in general

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Speaker 3: with like I don't know, like reading the news at

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Speaker 3: a most basic level. You are going this is a

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Speaker 3: logical consequence of like a low human capital led environment.

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Speaker 3: So like institutions themselves cannot be genuinely representative.

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Speaker 1: Or if they are, they're going to look like this.

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Speaker 3: They will look like a world where you know, the

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Speaker 3: Egyptian planes and all that is basically canon for a

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Speaker 3: significant number of people.

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Speaker 1: Again, look, I looked into a guy.

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Speaker 3: So we're talking about foreign registration planes not proven based

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Speaker 3: on flight radar data. I'm not saying the planes themselves

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Speaker 3: didn't exist, and there certainly have been claims made, and

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Speaker 3: I don't think her answer was good, But that is

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Speaker 3: not one hundred percent convincing in the light of DNA evidence,

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Speaker 3: which has not yet been contested in court. If Tyler

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Speaker 3: Robinson and his lawyers can prove in court that that

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Speaker 3: was fabricated, I will happily.

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Speaker 1: Hold my hands up right, and they.

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Speaker 3: Would have every incentive in the world to do so,

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Speaker 3: but they have not made that claim as so, yeah, perhaps.

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Speaker 1: They'll be an O. J. Simpson case here.

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Speaker 5: The other the other wild part about it is that

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Speaker 5: you would have to believe that so Charlie Kirk had

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Speaker 5: that summit on Long Island, Yeah, where it's like a

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Speaker 5: come to Jesus bad pond, but you.

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Speaker 3: Know, allegedly, yeah, so they have that Not even sure

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Speaker 3: I buy that, by the way, but there was.

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Speaker 1: A come to Jesus thing. I mean, all the evidence

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Speaker 1: points to he was.

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Speaker 3: Very pro Israel and he was doing his best and

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Speaker 3: doing his best to hold back but like the forces.

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Speaker 5: But let's say and then he comes out of that,

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Speaker 5: and then let's and now he's very angry and he's

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Speaker 5: turning on Israel. You would have to believe that they

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Speaker 5: went from inviting him over having these meetings, like having

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Speaker 5: people call him, to being like, you know what, we

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Speaker 5: give up kill him. And then and then within like

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Speaker 5: just a matter of short weeks, you've pulled off the

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Speaker 5: assassination and you found some other patsy like in Utah

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Speaker 5: to like take the like.

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Speaker 4: Does not make sense.

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Speaker 1: Several things can be true. Did the FBI bungle the investigation? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What did we lead our entire show with here?

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Speaker 4: Did the run by the bube?

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Speaker 1: Right, it's right by a literal moron all right? Allegedly sorry,

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Speaker 1: you know the moron? Yeah, moron.

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Speaker 3: I mean that in the literal sense, not in any

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Speaker 3: character way whatsoever there, but that's run by Cash Hotel,

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Speaker 3: all right, So yeah, they messed it up. There was

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Speaker 3: the whole thing about the old man who was initially

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Speaker 3: I understand, but I also you and I have been

579
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Speaker 3: in this business for all How many chaotic events have

580
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Speaker 3: we covered?

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00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 4: Of course?

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Speaker 3: Right, there's always reports one shoot or two right, three

583
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Speaker 3: initial reports. Half the time initial reports are totally long,

584
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Speaker 3: complete bullshit. You know, eyewitnesses is notoriously bad. You had

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Speaker 3: multiple people of interests who were taken into custody. I

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Speaker 3: get it too. In terms of Robinson, He's taken into

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Speaker 3: custody and then we hear nothing. The text messages which

588
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Speaker 3: we covered here weird. I'm going to fully hit it weird, Okay,

589
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: definitely needs to be explained in court.

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Speaker 1: What else was weird? Oh?

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Speaker 3: The fact that the FBI freaked out at Joe Kent

592
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Speaker 3: over foreign assassination tires. That's crazy too. I agree with

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Speaker 3: I agree with all of you. It's not evidence. Now

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Speaker 3: you know, absence of evidence is not evidence, in the

595
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Speaker 3: words of the famous Donald Rubbs felt okay, But all

596
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Speaker 3: of that again just to me, just me, points much

597
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Speaker 3: more to incompetence, bureaucratic infighting. Now that said, I think

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Speaker 3: all of those inquiries absolutely should be explored, especially if

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Speaker 3: you do want to find justice ultimately. But the cold

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Speaker 3: hard like rifle DNA, just the countercase of like why

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Speaker 3: it to me, does not make any sense personally, It

602
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Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense. And so I don't think that

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Speaker 3: that's difficult to say. And I don't trust the FBI.

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Speaker 3: I do not trust the FBI at all.

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Speaker 5: And so what Barry whis is trying to do is

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Speaker 5: create an institution, and she's trying to kind of put

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Speaker 5: this genie back in the bottle. Let's roll a little

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Speaker 5: bit more of Yeah, we have more of the town

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Speaker 5: Hall clip play the next one.

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Speaker 9: But any good faith effort to stop political violence must

611
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Speaker 9: hold both parties to the same standard and expectation. So

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Speaker 9: in that spirit, will you condemn the violent rhetoric of

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump, the most powerful and influential person on Earth.

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Speaker 8: I appreciate your question. You know my heart, why would

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Speaker 8: I ever say yes, go murder people? This is so

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Speaker 8: much deeper than just one I understand your sentiment. I do,

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Speaker 8: But this is also so much deeper than just one person.

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Speaker 8: This starts at the home. Okay, this starts with family.

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Speaker 8: This starts with a seed that grows and grows. You

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Speaker 8: can choose to have evil in your heart, or you

621
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Speaker 8: can choose to have light. What you consume and what

622
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Speaker 8: you absorb from the outside world will manifest itself. No,

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Speaker 8: I will never agree with political violence. My husband is

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Speaker 8: a victim of it. I'm a victim of it. But

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Speaker 8: what I'm trying to stay here is that we can

626
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Speaker 8: blame everyone else. We have to look in the mirror.

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Speaker 8: When you become a father, when you become a mother,

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Speaker 8: how are you raising your kids? Are you taking responsibility

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Speaker 8: or are you giving them a device and saying, go

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Speaker 8: down that rabbit hole. I'm trying to go to pilates class.

631
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Speaker 8: You can just sit in the corner and look at

632
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Speaker 8: your iPad or look at your phone and go down

633
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Speaker 8: that rabbit hole and see what you can learn from that.

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Speaker 8: Instead of being a parent. So My call to action

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Speaker 8: from that is parents step up.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't understand why Pilates is catching strays here.

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Speaker 1: First, that was a very odd response.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, and she did not condemn, by the way.

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Speaker 5: Part of the difference she walked around and decided not to.

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Speaker 3: I was talking about this with Crystal, and because Crystal

641
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Speaker 3: unfortunately there was some power problems so she couldn't be here.

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Speaker 3: But like, this is where I am sympathetic, you know,

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Speaker 3: to the difficulty of the left, where Eric occur is

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Speaker 3: both the grieving widow of Charlie and like she's the

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Speaker 3: first person I thought about, you know, after Charlie's death

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Speaker 3: and his children, right, So I think that's a normal

647
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Speaker 3: human reaction. She since has taken over turning point USA.

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Speaker 3: Now she's on you know, she's selling Charlie. I think

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Speaker 3: that's fine, you know, to sell Charlie's book in the memory.

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Speaker 1: Of your husband and allmen.

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Speaker 3: But it is I mean, you're going to get into difficult,

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Speaker 3: into dicey territory when you do want to be an

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Speaker 3: overtly political actor, right, and you can't really have it

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Speaker 3: both ways, at least in my opinion. And this is

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Speaker 3: somebody who understands like and is deeply sympathetic to a

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Speaker 3: grieving widow, but who also wants to take up the

657
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Speaker 3: mantle of her husband's political you know force, and then

658
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Speaker 3: also kind of explicitly be involved in shaping politics and

659
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: in everything like there will be something that wears off

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Speaker 3: and like, look, I don't know, I mean with the

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Speaker 3: whole town hall, like that was kind of the duality

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Speaker 3: of what it was. And I would say for her

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Speaker 3: in particular, the more you are in the latter overtly political,

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Speaker 3: working as an ally and the Trump administration, et cetera,

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Speaker 3: you will remove a lot of at least what I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, the sympathy of the entire country, which I

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Speaker 3: think rightfully exists over the death of your deceased husband.

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Speaker 3: And I mean this kind of that kind of like

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Speaker 3: squares the entire thing where Charlie's assassination was a personal,

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Speaker 3: it was a political and it became an intracoalitional fight

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Speaker 3: where and I mean that's where I find it like gross, Right,

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Speaker 3: we're arguing about the details of the death explicitly in

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Speaker 3: the grounds of trying to make political points, but also

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Speaker 3: how can you escape that if it is something which

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Speaker 3: was explicitly used I mean, many people lost their jobs

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Speaker 3: as a result of it. As I've said here before,

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Speaker 3: I don't have a problem at least in some cases

678
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Speaker 3: with that, because the truth is is all of us

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Speaker 3: kind of believe in a little bit of cancel culture.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's true.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it is true some of all of us

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Speaker 3: believe that there are bounds in polite society. We don't

683
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Speaker 3: necessarily believe the government should be enforcing it, which I

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Speaker 3: don't think either of you and I do, and the

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Speaker 3: government at one point he wanted to in the midst

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Speaker 3: of the Charlie Kirk assassination, which I condemned. I think

687
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Speaker 3: it was bad and obviously backfire dramatically given their coalitional fights.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, the whole That's why I questioned the decision

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Speaker 3: for this town hall in the first place. I don't

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Speaker 3: get it. I'll be honest, I don't get it. Maybe

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Speaker 3: it was done to help sell the book, which is fine.

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Speaker 4: But I get it for Erica Kirk.

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Speaker 1: I get it for Erica Kirk, of course, right.

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Speaker 3: But from CBS News' perspective, yeah, I mean to me,

695
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Speaker 3: it just seems like Barry wants to use that This

696
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Speaker 3: is me outsider kind of looking in is use the assassination,

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Speaker 3: the aftermath like discussion and cleavages in the right to

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Speaker 3: assert herself as a controller of wing discourse, and right

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Speaker 3: is to referee and to be the one who's pushing

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Speaker 3: social media and which just so happens to embrace a

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Speaker 3: lot of pro Israel politics, right. And I think that's

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Speaker 3: increasingly what it looks like.

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Speaker 5: And the problem she's going to run in to with

704
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Speaker 5: her own business model is that the one reason that

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Speaker 5: the American news media has been so homogeneous for many

706
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Speaker 5: decades is that advertisers don't really want the controversy.

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Speaker 4: And so we can put up this fourth element here.

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Speaker 5: Major advertisers stayed away from this town hall.

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Speaker 4: She said she's going to do a lot more of them.

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Speaker 5: They basically what all of the ads on here were

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Speaker 5: just direct sales type stuff, which is the kind of lowest,

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Speaker 5: cheapest kind of ad you can get on TV. According

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Speaker 5: to Variety. Here among the town hall's sponsors, so she

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Speaker 5: did get some do sponsors, where the Conservative Heritage Foundation

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Speaker 5: hallo a mobile app for Christian prayer. I think that's

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Speaker 5: on Tucker and other shows too. David a new animated

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Speaker 5: film from Angel Studios, which specializes in faith based content,

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Speaker 5: a small handful of more mainstream advertisers, including Spotify and TikTok.

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Speaker 4: We're also pro so she got TikTok to.

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Speaker 5: So the Allison's own one half, the Ellison's own TikTok

721
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Speaker 5: the other half of the Ellison's CBS, and so they

722
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Speaker 5: are basically just paying each other.

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Speaker 4: So how long. This is not a commercial play.

724
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Speaker 5: This is obviously a political and ideological play.

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Speaker 1: Which is the purpose.

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Speaker 4: Right, So it's okay if it loses a ton of money.

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Speaker 1: Let's all just remember this is not about money. The

728
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Speaker 1: Ellison's are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. They are

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Speaker 1: not buying anything for commercial purpose.

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Speaker 5: They win and lose hundreds of millions of dollars every day. Yes,

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Speaker 5: as the market.

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Speaker 1: Exactly hundreds of billions of dollars.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Go and read the story at some point about

734
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Speaker 3: Larry Ellison and how he owns like an entire island

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Speaker 3: in Hawaii.

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Speaker 4: It's nuts, one of the biggest islands of Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It owns the entire I think, like ninety nine percent,

738
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Speaker 3: like their whole landlord of everybody. It's it's psychotic, it's great.

739
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Speaker 3: It's literally a US state. A significant portion of a

740
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Speaker 3: US state controlled by a single individual, and.

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Speaker 5: CIA helped birth his company. Like, I hate the actually

742
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Speaker 5: looked deeply into oracle. I didn't know that. I hate

743
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 5: when the government makes these companies and then the.

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Speaker 4: Billionaires get to get the money.

745
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Speaker 5: Why can't we be the billionaires we made the company,

746
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Speaker 5: Like it's terrible and we don't like it, but like,

747
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Speaker 5: at least we can get breaks from it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I won't say anything, all right, let's get on

749
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Speaker 1: to Israel Jowe.

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Speaker 5: Over the weekend in Gaza, Israel launched an attack that

751
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Speaker 5: killed a Rad Sad, who was a top Casaan commander,

752
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Speaker 5: with a drone strike on a vehicle, which also killed

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Speaker 5: a handful of other Hamas officials that were riding along

754
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Speaker 5: with him, creating more gymnastics in the headlines around the world.

755
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Speaker 4: This The Times went with.

756
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Speaker 5: Israel says it killed senior Hamas commander despite cease fire.

757
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Speaker 5: Had you had a lot of defenders of Israel saying

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Speaker 5: that this wait, wait until you see the identity of

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Speaker 5: the person who was killed. You will see that this

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Speaker 5: was a justified attack. Like wait a mint, what are

761
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Speaker 5: you talking about. There is no identity of a person

762
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Speaker 5: that justifies firing during during what is called a ceasefire.

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Speaker 1: A lovely headline here despite.

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Speaker 5: The despite it, despite these fire uh, utterly, utterly incredible.

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Speaker 4: There was some speculation that.

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Speaker 5: Abu Watha's top top commander, that they said he was

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Speaker 5: instrumental in the October seventh attacks and that he's one

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Speaker 5: of the kind of leading logistics experts when it particularly

769
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Speaker 5: when it comes to explosives. There's argument that he was

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Speaker 5: taking stock of you know, armament supplies and and also

771
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Speaker 5: trying to figure out, you know, the best way to

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Speaker 5: take unexploded Israeli ordinance and you know, transform it into ammunition.

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Speaker 4: For for Hamas in the future.

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Speaker 5: Uh, let's let's pretend that all of that is actually true,

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Speaker 5: like there's a ceasefire in place.

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Speaker 10: Like.

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Speaker 3: Under this logic, this would mean that Hamas try Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the idea, Oh well, there's an IDF general who was instrumental.

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Speaker 4: I'm not testifying.

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Speaker 3: I don't should do that, but right, they could do

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Speaker 3: that if they wanted to, and.

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Speaker 1: They could say the same thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So there have been hundreds of people, hundreds of Palestinians

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Speaker 5: killed since the quote unquote ceasefire has has been has

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Speaker 5: been implemented. Uh, there there really hasn't been a day.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that it's gone by that hasn't seen

788
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Speaker 5: some some Palestinians killed. An average of roughly two children

789
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Speaker 5: a day have been killed during the ceasefire, and oftentimes

790
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Speaker 5: we'll get questions about, you know why is why do

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Speaker 5: you why do you even care so much? And if

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Speaker 5: you think about how much you cared when you heard

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Speaker 5: about what happened at Bondai Beach where at least fifteen

794
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Speaker 5: people were killed, and then imagine that you see all

795
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Speaker 5: human life as valuable. Most days, you're getting ten to

796
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Speaker 5: fifteen Palestinians killed in the middle of this ceasefire, and

797
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Speaker 5: that does not count the ravages of the lack of

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Speaker 5: life essentials getting into Gaza. We jump to E four

799
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Speaker 5: real quick, and then we can go back to some

800
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Speaker 5: of these other things. The inclement weather that has hit

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00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 5: Gaza is an absolute nightmare. So the headline here thirteen Gozins,

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Speaker 5: including three children killed by hypothermia or building collapses, a

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Speaker 5: mid storm byer and one man dies in Israel. The

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Speaker 5: number of hypothermia deaths has climbed significantly above that. Since then,

805
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 5: you've had flooding and cold weather for people who are

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Speaker 5: entering their third winter living in tarps and tents. The

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Speaker 5: tents are crap to begin with. By the third winter,

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Speaker 5: you know, they're they're offering you know, very little like

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Speaker 5: the they're offering very little protection against the elements. And

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00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 5: so when when you had when you have this storm

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Speaker 5: surge through, people are just left completely defenseless.

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Speaker 4: Tens of thousands of tens have been completely destroyed.

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Speaker 5: And Israel considers tent poles to be a quote dual

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Speaker 5: use item, so they will not allow tent poles into

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Speaker 5: Gaza because they say it could its dual use could

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Speaker 5: be military. Pencils and paper are are restricted, like the

817
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Speaker 5: amount of things that are blocked from going in are

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Speaker 5: it's it's utterly just absurd, and it would be comical

819
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Speaker 5: if it wasn't. There was an article about, I think

820
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 5: it was in the New York Times about the Trump

821
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 5: administration sent some logistics it's its top logistics efforts to

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Speaker 5: this kind of center where they are working, you know,

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Speaker 5: with the Israeli military to like you know, get aid

824
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Speaker 5: into Kaza. Because the thinking from the Trump administration was this,

825
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Speaker 5: this seems like a massive logistical challenge, so let's get

826
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Speaker 5: our top folks over there and send them in and

827
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Speaker 5: they'll they'll they'll figure this out. They all left pretty

828
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Speaker 5: quickly back to the United States and gave up. They said,

829
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Speaker 5: there is no logistical challenge. It's just Israel won't let

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Speaker 5: things in. Like here's the list of things they won't

831
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Speaker 5: let in. If you change that list, you can send

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Speaker 5: things in. It's like there are checkpoints, there are crossings.

833
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Speaker 5: You there are trucks filled with life essentials. Drive them

834
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Speaker 5: in and distribute them. You don't need, you know, my

835
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Speaker 5: big brain logistical take here.

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Speaker 4: And so they just so they just had it.

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Speaker 3: Do you have some news for you, Ryan, They just

838
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Speaker 3: broke here. We can put it up here on the screen.

839
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Speaker 3: We have the obligatory Barack revied. Axios report. The White

840
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Speaker 3: House has scolded Neta Yahoo for violating the Gaza Sea

841
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Speaker 3: spire with the strike. President Trump the White House sent

842
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: a certain message to Prime Minister Netanyahu. The killing over

843
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: the weekend constitute of violation to US official cells Axios.

844
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Speaker 3: The angry mess from the White House comes a maid

845
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: growing tensions between the Trump administration. It's the government around

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00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: the next phase of the agreement and the war in

847
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Speaker 3: Gaza and over Israel's broader Regional Policy Secretary of State

848
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Speaker 3: Steve Wickoff and Trump advisor Jared Kushner quote have become

849
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: very frustrated with yaho Is expected to meet Trump in

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Speaker 3: mar A Lago on December twenty ninth. Oh, I didn't

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Speaker 3: know that we were going to kick off the new

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Speaker 3: year or sorry, bring in the new year with what

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Speaker 3: will that?

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Speaker 4: Where else would you want to be the will that be?

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Speaker 10: Sixth?

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Speaker 1: Maybe seven seventh, six seven?

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Speaker 4: It's got to be a record, no, when the bombing

858
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Speaker 4: continues there.

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Speaker 5: They also, and we have this in drop site daily,

860
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Speaker 5: our morning newsletter, the Israeli navy abducted for Palisadian fishermen.

861
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Speaker 4: Like what are you doing?

862
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Speaker 5: If there's no food, you're not letting anything in? So

863
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 5: you've got people out there fishing and you just abducted

864
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Speaker 5: them off off their boats.

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Speaker 4: Like what like what what? What is this? What kind of

866
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Speaker 4: ceasefire is it?

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Speaker 5: The fact that they're doing this in Lebanon is kind

868
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Speaker 5: of the precedent for it. Like they they agreed to

869
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Speaker 5: a ceasefire with Hesbola and just have not withdrawn and

870
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Speaker 5: have just consistently attacked Lebanon on a near daily basis.

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Speaker 4: It's like, what, like what are.

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Speaker 1: We doing here?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely crazy stuff? But yes, that is the full summary.

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Speaker 3: I guess we have so far.

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Speaker 1: We got to Oh sorry, yeah, I forgot that this.

876
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Speaker 5: Huckaby did an AMA, which is like, what is going on? Like,

877
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Speaker 5: I don't know the online what are we doing?

878
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Speaker 3: US US ambassador should not be doing AMA. The shouldn't

879
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Speaker 3: even know what AMA is.

880
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Speaker 4: Right, it might be, it might be so utterly ridiculous.

881
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Speaker 5: A m A from Israeli US ambassador to Israel, my Kuckabee,

882
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Speaker 5: let's roll one of these.

883
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Speaker 10: There's been some talk that Israel attacked the country of Cutter.

884
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Speaker 4: It did not.

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Speaker 10: It did, in fact send a missile to attack a

886
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Speaker 10: terrorist who had been partly responsible for the murder of

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Speaker 10: Israeli citizens, but it did not attack the country. There

888
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Speaker 10: was one missile. It was aimed at one person. Now, unfortunately,

889
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Speaker 10: there were some people who were near that missile strike

890
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Speaker 10: that were injured or killed from it. But that was

891
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Speaker 10: not an attack on the nation of Cutter.

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Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, it's about as absurd a

893
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Speaker 4: thing as you can say. Also not true. It was

894
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Speaker 4: not one missile.

895
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Speaker 5: I think Jeremy reported it was like nine or twelve missiles.

896
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Speaker 5: It's far more than one, it was not aimed at

897
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Speaker 5: one person.

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Speaker 3: Also, it doesn't even matter because it killed a Katari

899
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Speaker 3: police officer intended target, and it.

900
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Speaker 5: Was aimed at the entire peace negotiation delegation, like, not

901
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Speaker 5: just one person. So aside from the structural absurdity of

902
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Speaker 5: the whole claim that you did not attack a country,

903
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Speaker 5: you just shot a missile at that them.

904
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Speaker 4: That exploded and killed people happened.

905
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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, there were people near the missile, so no, that happens.

906
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Speaker 4: But also none of that was true.

907
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Speaker 5: On top of the absurdity of the claim, he also

908
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Speaker 5: elsewhere in the AMA says there's just no evidence that

909
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Speaker 5: there's any relationship between Epstein and Israel.

910
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, oh okay, God, never mind for clarifying that,

911
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Speaker 3: mister ambassador.

912
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Speaker 5: Next time he does an AMA, I wonder if that's

913
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Speaker 5: for premium donors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Question who is this organization?

915
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Speaker 4: Can we throw in questions? Yeah?

916
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Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I would just love to do an interview

917
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Speaker 1: with the guy. But yeah, I heard nothing on them.

918
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Speaker 5: We'll have to like work our way into the AMA

919
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Speaker 5: next AMA.

920
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Speaker 3: Or we'll get our listeners to do so for us.

921
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Speaker 3: All right, let's get to week all right, last, but

922
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Speaker 3: not least, weed had to get it in here, especially

923
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Speaker 3: with my man Ryan Hereto to throw down with over

924
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Speaker 3: the subject of marijuana. President Donald Trump will allegedly or

925
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Speaker 3: reportedly be rescheduling marijuana from Schedule one to a Schedule

926
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Speaker 3: three substance. This has no bearing on your life whatsoever.

927
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Speaker 3: But it does have the bearing on a few corrupt

928
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Speaker 3: Wall streeters and venture capitalists who have been lobbying for

929
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Speaker 3: this in the White House so that their stocks can

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Speaker 3: go boom, so they can get big tax breaks and

931
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Speaker 3: access to the banking system.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a list at CNBC.

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Speaker 11: This is an administrative order. Trump's been very clear all along.

934
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Speaker 11: The question was could we get this in front of

935
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Speaker 11: Trump and could it be something that has enough of

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Speaker 11: a priority. It's very clear that the industry has engaged

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Speaker 11: Washington in a way that I think is much more

938
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Speaker 11: sensible but much more focused. I think there's no question

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Speaker 11: that top CEOs have been in mar Lago, have been

940
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Speaker 11: in DC, have been working with the President's team. The

941
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Speaker 11: implications for this are incredible for the industry, and I

942
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Speaker 11: do think that this is the kind of a domino

943
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Speaker 11: to fall that would get other things going that don't

944
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Speaker 11: necessarily have to be legislative fall through either, including exchange listings,

945
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Speaker 11: which I think is the holy grail here because that

946
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Speaker 11: really would bring in institutional capital. If you're investing in

947
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Speaker 11: campus here, there's not institutional capital.

948
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Speaker 3: So he said it all right, the corrupt Wall streeters

949
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Speaker 3: are in on the deal. Ryan, and Ryan, even though

950
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Speaker 3: I know that you support this, you have to agree

951
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Speaker 3: with me that the way that this shit down is insane. Okay,

952
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Speaker 3: put this Washington Post piece up on the screen. They've

953
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Speaker 3: beat you to it.

954
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Speaker 1: To their credit, I was hearing some rumblings. I called Ryan.

955
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Speaker 3: Actually I was trying to report it out for drop site,

956
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Speaker 3: but they got in front of.

957
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Speaker 1: It for me.

958
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Speaker 3: Trump quote seeks to cut restrictions on marijuana through planned order. Again,

959
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Speaker 3: to be very clear, if you live in a state

960
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Speaker 3: where weed is legal, this doesn't affect you at all.

961
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Speaker 3: All this does is grant massive tax breaks and banking

962
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Speaker 3: access to a bunch of weed companies who are being

963
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Speaker 3: invested in by Wall Street and by venture capitalists, as

964
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Speaker 3: well as the pharmaceutical industry. And in fact, the behind

965
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Speaker 3: the scenes story this is pure corruption, pure unadelterated corruption.

966
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Speaker 3: Here's how this all went down. Donald Trump was visited

967
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Speaker 3: by a woman named Kim Rivers. Okay, Now for Kim Rivers,

968
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Speaker 3: who is a CEO, is the CEO of a company

969
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Speaker 3: called True Leave. True Leave is the Florida based weed

970
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Speaker 3: company is the one that sponsored that amendment on the

971
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Speaker 3: ballot in Florida, the thank god, was rejected by the

972
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Speaker 3: people of Florida. That multi billion dollar pot company also

973
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Speaker 3: hired a woman named Susie Wiles, while she.

974
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Speaker 1: Was not the White House she of Staff.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So what ended up happening is that the White

976
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Speaker 3: House she of Staff brought in her former paying client, Rivers,

977
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Speaker 3: to the Oval office, who convinced his Trump miraculously to

978
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Speaker 3: grant her a gigantic tax break through Schedule three, which

979
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Speaker 3: would then mean it since stock's flying, truly a stock itself. Yeah,

980
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Speaker 3: by the way, you saw that there in seat House?

981
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 5: How nice, say is it? By the way, let's linger

982
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 5: on the fact that they're green for the arrow up?

983
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Speaker 1: Oh right, got better? Great?

984
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least something's going up, certainly not aggregate IQ

985
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Speaker 3: of the United States. So what ends up happening is

986
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Speaker 3: Trump calls Mike Johnson, the Speaker, and informs him of

987
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Speaker 3: his decision.

988
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Speaker 1: Johnson's like I think this is a bad idea.

989
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 3: Trump turns the phone over to her in the oval

990
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 3: and it's like, why don't you explain why this is

991
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: a good idea. You can go do all the research

992
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 3: for yourself. If you guys want to schedule one to

993
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 3: schedule three. Has no bearing on criminality, on legal enforcement,

994
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 3: nothing has. One reason is to make these companies wildly profitable.

995
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 3: And in fact, as they showed on CNBC Institutional Capital,

996
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: Big Pharma and venture Capital, one of the stupidest conspiracies

997
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 3: out there is that Big Pharma is trying to suppress weed.

998
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: You think they don't want to. They'll sell you anything

999
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 3: to addict to you. Most of you losers are out

1000
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: there smoking every single day.

1001
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: You think they don't want to sell that to you.

1002
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: They only don't because it's illegal. The moment it's illegal,

1003
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: they'll happily do it.

1004
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 5: On that point, I have looked, you know, I've a

1005
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 5: book about this many years ago. I have looked for

1006
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 5: evidence around Big Pharma's kind of relationship with weed and

1007
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 5: illegal drugs along those lines that there's some self interest

1008
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 5: here and blah blah, going back to the thirties, and

1009
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 5: the evidence is just not there, Like pharma is more

1010
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 5: of a wait and see and if and then we'll

1011
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 5: move into it and figure out a way to profit.

1012
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: Of course they can.

1013
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 5: It's like this idea that it's a miracle drug that

1014
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 5: is going to make other pharmaceuticals, you know, less profitable,

1015
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 5: is there's just actually no evidence to it.

1016
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 4: Now.

1017
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 5: The current system, to me, is completely indefensible. Where you

1018
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 5: have a multi billion dollar above board market where you're

1019
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 5: going you can go into shops buy things, and then

1020
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 5: that The companies have two problem, well they have multiple problems,

1021
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 5: but they stem from two different things. One is lack

1022
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 5: of lack of consistent access to banking because it's a

1023
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 5: Schedule one drug and so a bank is not supposed

1024
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 5: to actually work with you if you're dealing with Schedule

1025
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 5: one drugs. And the second, as you said, is on

1026
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 5: the tax side, you're not really supposed to be able

1027
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 5: to write off expenses associated with an illegal, a federally

1028
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 5: illegal enterprise. Yes, there's although there's some debate about this,

1029
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 5: and most companies do because imagine if imagine if you can,

1030
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 5: if you're a business, you know these are small margin businesses,

1031
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 5: even these, even these weed shops. So let's say you

1032
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 5: do ten million dollars in revenue in a month, but

1033
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 5: it cost you nine point nine million dollars to buy

1034
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 5: your product, to pay wages, to do your.

1035
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 4: Rent, all all of that.

1036
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 5: So you made one hundred thousand dollars of profit in

1037
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 5: that month. You would then owe the federal government and

1038
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 5: the state and the state government tax is on that

1039
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 5: one hundred thousand dollars. But if you can can't deduct

1040
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 5: the costs of your illegal business, you actually technically should

1041
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 5: oh on all ten million dollars. So now you have

1042
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 5: a you know, let's say, three million dollar tax bill

1043
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 5: on one hundred thousand dollars worth of operating profit. Obviously

1044
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 5: you're bankrupt immediately. So this this tries to rationalize that

1045
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 5: I was saying on the Friday Show that twenty years

1046
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 5: ago you could see a mentality among the early marijuana

1047
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 5: business people who are getting into the medical world that

1048
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 5: they thought the whole system was corrupt, it's all paid

1049
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 5: to play. That you need the right lobbyists, you need

1050
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 5: to hire the right people, And they went about doing

1051
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 5: that as soon as they could have had Soon they

1052
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 5: had a little bit of money, they'd hire some former

1053
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 5: member of Congress, and their vision, yeah, right, and then.

1054
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 4: They got more money and they do yeah, Vayer.

1055
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 5: Their vision was we need to be as corrupt as

1056
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 5: the rest of American industries are.

1057
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: They've succeeded, and they're they're there, I think succeeded.

1058
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Speaker 5: You look, you look at them from twenty years ago

1059
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 5: and you looked at this today, they'd be like, Yes,

1060
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Speaker 5: that's exactly how we.

1061
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 4: Saw this was going to get over the time.

1062
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 5: We didn't know it was going to be Donald freaking Trump,

1063
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 5: but we we knew we were gonna where we were

1064
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 5: going to try to hire somebody who would then become

1065
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 5: a powerful government official. The fact that she became chief

1066
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 5: of staff, it's like even better, Like that's like hitting

1067
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 5: the industry. That's the lottery, lottery boom we're in. So

1068
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Speaker 5: go along on your weed stocks.

1069
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: Well, by the way, that's another insider trading thing.

1070
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 3: So if a weed CEO is literally in an oval

1071
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 3: office meeting where you know something's going to happen. I

1072
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 3: checked the weed ETF M sauce or whatever was up

1073
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 3: by fifty after this Washington Post pros broke. So, oh,

1074
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Speaker 3: maybe you just put a little taste for your friends.

1075
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 3: When I'm not alleging that I'm just saying it's potential

1076
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Speaker 3: for corruption.

1077
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Speaker 1: I'm not in this specific instance.

1078
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Speaker 4: But then did it go up right before the high

1079
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 4: order to go up? After it up?

1080
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Speaker 3: It went up after so beforehand there was like, well,

1081
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 3: I mean there was some movement throughout the day, as

1082
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 3: you know, I had I had the rumor. I was

1083
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: waiting trying to get it confronted a lot of people,

1084
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Speaker 3: a lot of people in Washington New like like hours

1085
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Speaker 3: before the Washington Post story broke.

1086
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1087
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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I'm an idiot because I didn't. Right,

1088
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Speaker 3: It's like I had it when the market was open.

1089
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Speaker 3: I'm just not corrupt enough. We don't like, we don't

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00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 3: do that exactly. That's not that's not my mentality, but

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00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 3: apparently that's the mentality of some people because you could

1092
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 3: immediately see movement there in the hours beforehand. I just

1093
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 3: want to again, whether you agree disagree, this is not

1094
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 3: how stuff should be happening, right, And I get it.

1095
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 3: This is a small ball and most of the people

1096
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 3: who watch the show probably support it anyways, And that's fine,

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00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 3: that's your right as an American that said, this is

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00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 3: an absurd way to be making to be doing business.

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Speaker 3: As a country, as you explained perfectly around the tax

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Speaker 3: implications and all of that.

1101
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: They're like, well, it's unfair.

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00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, it's not, because we're living in an

1103
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 3: absurd system where it's technically state legal or not. Like, no,

1104
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 3: you have to change the law. If you want access

1105
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 3: to the United States tack Code, you have to change

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Speaker 3: the law.

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Speaker 1: Period. I didn't just get.

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00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 3: To decide because of vibes, you know, based on schedule status,

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00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 3: which is an executive order that's gone through. Also on

1110
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Speaker 3: the polling. What that guy said in CNBC was total bullshit.

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00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 3: There's a thirteen percent drop just this year for legalization

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Speaker 3: of weed amongst Republicans. I hope I can take some

1113
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 3: credit for that, and actually there's a drop amongst some

1114
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 3: independence and even amongst Democrats because of the system that's

1115
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 3: completely run amok. You have like big Tobacco era style

1116
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 3: corruption and capitalism preying on young minds. The entire system

1117
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 3: is built around addiction. That's what I was saying earlier.

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00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 3: The twenty something percent of people who smoke weed use

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00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: it every single day addicted. Okay, you're addicted, period, There's

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Speaker 3: no getting around that. And all the medical benefits are bullshit. Sorry,

1121
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 3: it just came out jama new study. Almost every single

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00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 3: widespread claim when it was analyzed, showed no statistical benefit

1123
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 3: for so called medical marijuana about the appetite enhancement. Okay, Ryan, Again,

1124
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 3: whenever it comes to solely just on marijuana itself in

1125
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Speaker 3: comparison to the other miracle drug which you just said

1126
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 3: it doesn't exist, you can go read the study for yourself. Now,

1127
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that people don't use it for a

1128
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 3: said benefit. Fine, and I'm not even saying people should

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Speaker 3: be locked up for using it. I've never believed that.

1130
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 3: I still don't believe it, even though it is bullshit.

1131
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 3: There's nobody in prison right now for smoking weed. There's

1132
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 3: not a single person who's in prison for smoking weed.

1133
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 3: Nobody goes to jail for smoking weed. Some people know,

1134
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 3: they don't, Ryan, It's been proven. It's I can show

1135
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 3: you the statistics. It's completely false.

1136
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 5: I had a friend from the Eastern Shore who went

1137
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 5: to jail for weed in the nineties, nineties, early right.

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Speaker 1: So I'm talking about today. It doesn't exist. People don't

1139
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: go to jail for smoking weed.

1140
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 4: Did they even then?

1141
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: It would be difficult. The federal statistics on this ironclad.

1142
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 5: Arianna Huffington enjoys and introduced me to Bill O'Malley was

1143
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 5: his name, O'Malley the Maryland governor.

1144
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 4: Oh Martin Matt, Martin mats.

1145
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 5: And we were talking about Maryland and I was telling

1146
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 5: him like he was governor at the time. I was like,

1147
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 5: you know, I've got a friend doing weekends now. Oh

1148
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 5: really Weed. He's like, that's that's impossible. Like nobody's in

1149
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 5: jail for weed. Where does he live? And I was like,

1150
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 5: Eastern Shore. He's like, oh, okay, actually.

1151
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: Coming up with the cops there.

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00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 4: It's just a heart. It's just much harsher.

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00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't I don't know Maryland.

1154
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 5: It's it's these rural areas in general, they are they're

1155
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 5: just much harsher towards defendants. But then then like Baltimore

1156
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 5: for instance, Okay, like you go to Baltimore, judge over weed,

1157
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 5: he's gonna yell at the cop like, what are you

1158
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 5: doing wasting my time?

1159
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 4: Weed? In a more rural area.

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Speaker 1: But even today, I don't think that that's the case.

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Speaker 4: Probably not.

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Speaker 3: I mean I've looked at the I've looked at the

1163
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Speaker 3: federal and the state stats, which are are all like like,

1164
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: there is nobody in jail, especially federal prison.

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00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: Nobody is in jail for smoking weed bullshit claim. Just

1166
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: so everybody understands that said, I don't think you should

1167
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,479
Speaker 1: have existed in the past. I don't think you existed today.

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Speaker 5: Now, one thing you might like about this is that

1169
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 5: moving it to schedule.

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Speaker 1: Three open time they justify it.

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Speaker 5: It also moves it to it opens up more research possibilities.

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Speaker 1: We don't need any research. We know everything we need

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01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: to know.

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01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 4: You can always have more research.

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Speaker 3: There are tens of millions of people use this drug

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01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 3: every single day. We know everything we need to know.

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01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 3: That's like me saying we need to study alcohol. Well,

1178
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 3: I need to tell you that it gets drunk and

1179
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 3: it ruins your sleep. I don't need to prove that

1180
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 3: to you.

1181
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 4: It makes you dizzy.

1182
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, oh sh oh yeah, come on right.

1183
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 4: It's just like more research is good though, no for

1184
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 4: what for what?

1185
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: Well, we just went through the medical claims or bs.

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01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 4: It could be so.

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Speaker 5: The other thing I learned from studying the history of

1188
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 5: all different drugs is that when you get a wild

1189
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 5: West situation, you as a supporter of that situation might

1190
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 5: like it for a year or two, it's it never

1191
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 5: stays that way. Like the fact that there's now a

1192
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Speaker 5: little bit of a backlash that you're pointing to is

1193
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 5: completely historically in line with.

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Speaker 4: All all of the trends. Remember cocaine was like popular in.

1195
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 5: The eighteen nine and then it's everywhere, and then people

1196
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 5: are like, we don't like this everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Actually we had literal coke guns who were robbing pharmacy,

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Speaker 3: so it was wild.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So then they cracked down on it. So you

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01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 5: get this pendulum swinging back and forth. So if you

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01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 5: actually are a supporter of weed, you want to see

1202
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 5: it more out in the open, and you want to

1203
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 5: see the harms discussed publicly in a way that allows

1204
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 5: the society to get it under control a little bit.

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01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 5: Otherwise you get the hammer instead. So the hammer, Yeah,

1206
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 5: it's socialism or barbarism.

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Speaker 4: You're going to get the barbarism here.

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01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it would be better than you know,

1209
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 3: widespread weed use literally everywhere you go.

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01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: But look, I'm being wildly hyperbolic. I always enjoyed talking

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01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: about it with you.

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Speaker 3: And just as a tease, Griffin and I have filmed

1213
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 3: our review of Reefer Madness. It clocked in at ninety minutes.

1214
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 3: We enjoyed the hell out just we enjoyed the hell

1215
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 3: out of just watching the film, reviewing the film. It's

1216
01:01:58,760 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 3: one of the most important films.

1217
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 4: Is this gonna be one of the holiday episodes. It's

1218
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 4: gonna be one of I can't wait for that.

1219
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: We have all the clips with clips. It's a real

1220
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: movie review.

1221
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 3: Griffin was actually because Griffin went to film school, so

1222
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 3: he actually really knows like how to dissect and do

1223
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 3: a film review. And then I insert my I give

1224
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 3: some color commentary on the film, but we also delve

1225
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 3: into some of the claims of everything.

1226
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm watching this one.

1227
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: It's a good it's a look.

1228
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 3: Very few people probably will watch it, but I enjoyed

1229
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 3: the hell out of doing it, so I hope that

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Speaker 3: you do. So, all right, that's one of our many benefits,

1231
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 3: in addition to much more compelling content by Crystal, Ryan

1232
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 3: and Emily, which I'm sure will be much more highly rated.

1233
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Speaker 5: Also shout out to the Breaking Points viewer who came

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01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 5: to the Reason debate.

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Speaker 4: I may sign his weed pens disgusting.

1236
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: It's disgusting.

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01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 5: As I told Soccer, multiple people told me bong rips

1238
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 5: for soccer you're lying.

1239
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: That's a lie.

1240
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,439
Speaker 3: Okay, No, but anyone, if you were ripping a bong

1241
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 3: in the morning, in the morning, something wrong with you.

1242
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's it's empirically true. Who is doing it?

1243
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 3: What do you what do you call somebody who drinks

1244
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 3: in the morning an alcoholic? Yeah, all right, let's be honest, call.

1245
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: Space of babe.

1246
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, waken baby, if you have a drink, yeah.

1247
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: It should.

1248
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 3: This is this is my whole thing is just like, oh,

1249
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 3: if you're pouring vodka into a diet coke can or

1250
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 3: like that, it's always sunny episode and you're drinking.

1251
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: Okay, you are a disgusting alcoholic. You have a problem, bro,

1252
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: you have a problem. You waken. But I was like, oh,

1253
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: it's so chill, so cool and chill.

1254
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 5: It's not like, no, there are people exhaling watching this

1255
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 5: right now.

1256
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: No, they're not, you know.

1257
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 3: And if you are, put it down, all right, throw

1258
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 3: the bomb, break it, break it. What I forget what

1259
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 3: I said? Somebody I said bong teers or something like that.

1260
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: Apparently bong teers are real.

1261
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 3: That's what a weed smoker informed me, is that sometimes

1262
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 3: you hit it so hard.

1263
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,919
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I wouldn't know, all right. I don't want

1264
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: to know. You shouldn't know either, all right. Okay, we'll

1265
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: see you later.