1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: This year, he's going to be elite. Well, that is 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: not what JR. Squeezy had to say about Mike Jarecki, 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: because MJ You're always elite every single year. But those 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: were the words that came out of the mouth of JR. 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: Squeezy earlier this week talking about his quarterback Kyler Murray, 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: and we will get into that here on this edition 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: of Cards, Cover two presented by Hounday, proud partner of 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As we are nearing the conclusion of 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals training camp powered by Cox here at State Farm Stadium. 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: In fact, today the final day in pads, and tomorrow, 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: on Thursday, September third, one week before the start of 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: the regular season Chiefs and Texans, the Cardinals will hold 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: their final practice and then break camp. Does it feel 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: like training camps coming to an end? It does nuts. 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we've okay, we've been here for a while, 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: three weeks, three plus weeks, so in that aspect, yes, 17 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: it's probably good to break camp and do something else. 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: But I was staying this the other day, it just 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like the season is right around the corner. 20 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: I think a lot of that has to do with 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: the fact that there's no preseason games. Yeah, but according 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: to the NFL calendar, you know, normally your fourth preseason 23 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: game would have happened, maybe even last week or this week. 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: Obviously the season doesn't start really for the Cardinals and 25 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: a lot of teams until the thirteenth, but it's cut 26 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: down weekend. It is a huge weekend. It's a huge weekend. 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: And technically, you know you're nine what is it nine? 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: Would tomorrow will be nine days away, correct, So I 29 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: mean it's right there. And you mentioned this final day 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: in pads. Now, teams do where pads during the season. 31 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: Normally it's on a Wednesday. Sometimes it can be a Thursday. 32 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: And I think some teams are gonna probably gonna go 33 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: through a walk through on Thursdays this year just because 34 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta sure bodies get healthy and how 35 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: the testing goes on. So, you know, I think it's 36 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: time to break camp just because you know, we've talked 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: about the storylines. Now, the expectations have been risen from 38 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: the outside. The team knows it's still got to go 39 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: out there and play football, and I kind of like 40 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: where they're at. I guess we can look at every 41 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: single position and say, yeah, maybe they didn't need another guy. 42 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: I think you can do that for all thirty two teams. 43 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: But I think they put themselves in position to make 44 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: some progress. Eight wins in two years. You hope they 45 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: can get over that plateau in this upcoming season. The 46 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: only concern, and I've heard this, and I've read this, 47 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: and to a certain extent, I understand the concern, the 48 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: fact that Kenyan Drake has now missed let me count one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 49 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: eight straight practices and DeAndre Hopkins continues to do the well, 50 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: sometimes he's practicing, sometimes he's not. We have not seen 51 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: him over the past three practices during media availability. In fact, heck, 52 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: Larry fitz Gerald has not practiced the past three days. 53 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: He's been on the field acting as another coach. But 54 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: if you just talk about Drake and Hopkins, that's your 55 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: running back, that's your number one wide receiver. And I 56 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: get it, we still have time, but these were valuable snaps, 57 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: valuable reps that were missed here in training camp. No, 58 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: I think it's a fair point. The only thing I 59 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: can tell you is, you know, initially people were freaking 60 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: out when he was in a walking boot. He's not 61 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: in a walking boot, not anymore anyway, right exactly Now, 62 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: I know one percent of what they know, if not less, 63 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: meaning they have the medical staff. And to me it's 64 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: I you know, normally I would say, yes, he's missing 65 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: in valuable time. He's a new player. Yes, maybe he's 66 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: played in a version of this offense, but it's the 67 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: terminology and they've added more plays from a year ago, 68 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: and there has to be chemistry with the quarterback and 69 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: seems like they feel comfortable with it. But I agree 70 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: with you, but I'm not gonna yell far in a 71 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: theater because what we're expecting from these players to play 72 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: all sixteen games this year. Obviously injuries occur, so you know, 73 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: he's only missed two games in his career. One was 74 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: I think they clinched to the division. You know, some 75 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: guys obviously show up in the bright lights. But I 76 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: do agree with you it'd be better if they were 77 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: on the field getting valuable reps. And you know a 78 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: lot of times maybe they're getting treatment and then we 79 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: see him. Maybe they'll come out a little bit later. 80 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: Those are mental reps. But I do agree with your point. Yeah, 81 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: and to a certain extent, if the coaching staff is 82 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: not concerned, then why should we be concerned? Now? What 83 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: are they saying behind closed hours? Who knows. But the 84 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: last time we've heard from Kingsbury about both Kenyan Drake 85 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: and DeAndre Hopkins, he said, quote, they're close, and then 86 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: he added, we know what we've got in them. And 87 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: Kingsbury MJ has been very consistent this entire training camp, 88 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: whether it's Drake, Hopkins, even Max Williams who missed a 89 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: considerable amount of time before returning earlier this week, that 90 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: they were going to err on the side of caution. 91 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: They were not going to put anyone on the field 92 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: that wasn't one hundred percent because it's about week one, 93 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: it's about September thirteenth at San Francisco. Yes, you can 94 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: play during the regular season at less than one hundred percent, 95 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: but why practice and training camp when you're less than 96 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Yeah. The only thing I can tell 97 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: you is is if we fast forward to next week, 98 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see those guys both practice 99 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: in all week. I mean Monday could be a bonus day. 100 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: And then obviously the Cardinals are already using cards when 101 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: it comes to their opponents, so they have an idea. 102 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: Obviously you don't want to give them the game plan 103 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: too soon, but if you know if they're on the 104 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: injury reports, because obviously you know they have injuries, Okay, 105 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: what's what's their designation? And you don't know how I 106 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: feel on Fridays. I just I'm confident, barring any setbacks, 107 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: that Drake and Hopkins will be ready in week one. Now, 108 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: can I play the whole game? I mean that's something 109 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: we'll have to look for. I think we look at 110 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: this first week, conditioning and tackling and possibly penalties are 111 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: going to be overwhelming. I think a point of emphasis. Yeah, 112 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: And I think that's something that every team is going 113 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: to have to deal with. And that's why you're going 114 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: to need depth at certain positions, certainly not you hope 115 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: at offensive line, but every other position. Again, outside a quarterback, 116 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: you're going to see a nice rotation. Before we get 117 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,239 Speaker 1: back to what j R. Sweezy had to say about 118 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, this from defensive coordinator Advanced Joseph who today 119 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: was asked specifically about Isaiah Simmons because during the open 120 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: portion or practice, and I know this is a couple 121 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: of times as well, we've got what fifteen twenty minutes, 122 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: and it's stretching its position work, it's individual work. And 123 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons has, on occasion, I think I've seen it 124 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: twice now, has worked with the cornerbacks and he's also 125 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: at times worked with the outside linebackers. Now and Joseph's words, 126 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: that's more footwork. Yet it does bring up the facts 127 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: and we'll get people's minds racing, like, hey, this is 128 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: what he did at Clemson. He wasn't just an inside linebacker. 129 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: He was outside, he was slot corner. He did a 130 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: lot of different things. But here's coach Joseph quote, he's 131 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: playing one position. It's my job to narrow his focus 132 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: right now. End quote. Listen. I agree with what they're 133 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: doing with them. I know people, you know it's like Christmas, 134 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 1: she opened this new toy and you want to see 135 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: doesn't just do one thing. And to me, the focus 136 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: has been weakside inside linebacker. But we've talked about, you know, 137 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: maybe after he was drafted that and sub packages, I 138 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: could see him rushing the pastor I mean I get it. 139 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: I mean at some point, I mean, you got Campbell 140 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: and Hicks and you got Simmons. So it sounds like 141 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: they want to play all three at the same time, 142 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: so there's gonna be different opportunities. But I think they've 143 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: been very consistent about slow play. Now there could be 144 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: a down and distance where he's gonna have to cover someone. 145 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: You know, obviously he's slot receivers. I think would be 146 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: difficult with tight ends. It's all going to be about 147 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: what this Cardinal team does in their sub packages. But 148 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: you know, I think he's built for the part. I 149 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: think he's got to get stronger. I'm curious to see 150 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: Craig how he can shed blocks if he has to 151 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: come off the edge. He's very agile when it comes 152 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,679 Speaker 1: to dropping his shoulder. He's got long arms, so maybe 153 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: he can reach. I don't know if a lineman would 154 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: actually be able to get inside on him because of 155 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: his long arms. But just like any player and I 156 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: talk about all the time, year one to year two, 157 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: clearly he's got to get stronger in the upper body. 158 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: But when you would look him in a uniform, I 159 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: mean he stands out in the huddle. He fills out 160 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: the uniform very very well. Yea. Even on the practice 161 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: field and his athleticism, we all know about it. Everyone 162 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: has known about it just by watching film. But the 163 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: one thing that has impressed not only the coaches but 164 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: his teammates, and Jordan Hicks brought it up earlier today 165 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: is talking about Simmons's ability to absorb information quote athletically, 166 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: he's amazing. What a lot of people don't see is 167 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: the brain behind it. Quote. According to Jordan Hicks, they 168 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: are not throwing a lot of stuff at him as 169 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: far as at least not to our knowledge, as far as, hey, 170 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: we want you to do all of this, play different positions, 171 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: but as far as retaining information at the NFL level, 172 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: because some colleges and I don't know how they did 173 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: it at Clemson MG, but they keep it very simple 174 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: and in the NFL it's one call that could be 175 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: three different versions or four different versions depending on how 176 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: the offense lines up. And we know Kingsbury certainly has 177 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: done some creative things offensively here in training camp, according 178 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: to the defensive players. So right now he's retaining all 179 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: of this and being able to go out onto the 180 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: field and execute what he's been told. Yeah, once again, 181 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: I mean he played nine different positions. That's college football. 182 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: I know, those guys from the ACC and the SCC 183 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: they kind of slaught the first three rounds of the draft. 184 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean, how much impact will he have in the 185 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: first season as his snap counting in a month of September, 186 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: and he's not going to have the same angles he 187 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: had in college. I mean, he's going against grown men 188 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: for the most part. But if you can move him around, 189 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: let that quarterback go. Wow. I got Chandler Jones over here. 190 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: I got Jordan Phillips right here, who obviously can rush 191 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: the passer. I have Patrick Peterson on the outside, and 192 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden there's number forty eight. So um, 193 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: they'll find ways. But I'm just curious to see, you know, 194 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: does he play on special teams, because that's another way 195 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: when you're a backup, you know, because he's gonna have 196 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: to cover kicks at some point. I know he's, you know, 197 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: obviously a defensive player, so but I think the final 198 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: role for him, it's just you know, and I'm not 199 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: surprised because we talked about it before when we learned 200 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: about him throughout the draft process, and he told the 201 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: story on the flight plan is where you know, he 202 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: couldn't play football until he did his homework, and so 203 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: his parents and luckily he had both parents in the household, 204 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: and he took it serious. And when you when when 205 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: he was at Clemson, many different meeting rooms or sometimes 206 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: they would schedule the back seven just so he can 207 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: get more safety in corner, you know, meetings versus the 208 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: front seven. So fascinating story. But I think that they're 209 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: gonna put him in spots where he can make plays. Yeah, 210 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: and make sure they're putting him in spots where he 211 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: can be successful, correct and not. I wouldn't say not 212 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: make mistakes. He's going to make mistakes, but don't stick 213 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: out like a sore thumb. Don't put him in a 214 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: position where he can fail and all of a sudden 215 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: start losing confidence in what I should be able to 216 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 1: do here at this level. I don't think he'll be overwhelmed. 217 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: He's played in big games. He could have been the 218 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: second or third best defensive player off the board, depending 219 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: on what you like. We know Chase Young and then 220 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: he's throwing Jeff Kuda those when you're building a roster 221 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: pass rusher corner. Again, you only don't see inside linebacker 222 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: school that high. Even Devin White from the Bucks he 223 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: went fifth overall. So but you couldn't turn down the upside. Well, 224 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: that word overwhelmed, that's the word. That's a description you 225 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: use for who last year, Kyler Murray. Yes, which leads 226 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: us into our main topic here on cards Covered two 227 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Want 228 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: to let everyone know that you should, if you haven't 229 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: done so already, update to the latest version of the 230 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals mobile app today. The update features an all new 231 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: redesign homescreen experience. Visitasy cardinals dot com slash app for more. 232 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: J R. Sweezy, the Cardinals starting right guard, talked about 233 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray earlier this week and he was very effusive 234 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: in his praise in what he thinks about his quarterback, 235 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: who has taken, according to everyone that we've talked to here, 236 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: a huge step. But Sweezy added this this year, he's 237 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: going to be elite. MJ. You can't go much further 238 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: than offensive Rookie of the Year unless, of course, you 239 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: put yourself in the MVP conversation, which a lot of 240 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: people expect or think that it is a possibility following 241 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: the footsteps of a Patrick Mahomes and a Lamar Jackson. 242 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: But there is something I wouldn't say special. He's already 243 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: been special. He's been special since he first stepped out 244 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: on a football field when he was young. But there 245 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: seems to be a different feeling, a different sense of 246 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: what Murray might be able to do and do with 247 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: this offense here in twenty twenty. Well, I think it's 248 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: a maturity factor. And you know, he said he was 249 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: on with Mike Vick on the Fox podcast and he said, 250 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: you know, he didn't well we all know that players 251 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: knew who he was because they watched him on tea, 252 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: But he said, I didn't want to come in there 253 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: and start making demands, like Larry called him a loaner. 254 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: The first month of the season, you know, he would 255 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: go get his food and come back to his locker. 256 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: You know, he'd have his back to us during the 257 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: forty five minutes, even though he did this scrum and 258 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: even in some of the flight plan Larry's you know, 259 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: I mentioned to him, hey, this is just throw the 260 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: ball to me. So but I think it's a maturity factor. 261 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: He's become a leader, and I think he's comfortable in 262 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: his own skin, and that's important. And this guy wants 263 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: to be great. And when you do look at what 264 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson did it in his second year starting, and 265 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: even though Mahomes, you know, sat the first year, his 266 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: second year what he did. But the Cardinals have better 267 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: players now, and they have some continuity in the front office, 268 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: they have stability on the roster, so I'm not surprised. 269 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: And you know we're gonna talk about Sweezy here, but 270 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: he's got the respect of the locker room and you know, 271 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: he's he's got the face of the franchise. I mean, 272 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: Larry's gonna torch to him, but he's the guy right now. Well, 273 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: and all five of those offensive lineman DJ Humphries, Justin Pugh, 274 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: Mason Cole j R. Sweezy, and whether it's Calvin Beecham 275 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: or Justin Murray, and even going back to when Marcus 276 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: Gilbert was penciled in there a year ago, they all 277 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: enjoy playing with Murray blocking for Murray. And what was 278 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: that a year ago, speaking of Sweezy, that one of 279 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: those sacks was at forty eight sacks last year. One 280 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: of those sacks should be credited too Sweezy because he literally, 281 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: I mean he ran into that. Murray ran into Sweezy, 282 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: and Sweezy tackled him because he didn't know where he was, 283 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: and that's that's gonna happen. Yeah, with a mobile quarterback, 284 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: you gotta learn where they are. But that's something that 285 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: after the fact. It was a couple of days later. 286 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: I asked Sweezy about it and everyone had a good 287 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: laugh about it. But that's certainly not I'm not expecting 288 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: that to happen this year. You know. I try to 289 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: watch the shortcut version after a Cardinal game because normally 290 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: there's four or five six plays and then Kingsbury talks 291 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: on Monday, so you can kind of, you know, sync 292 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: it up. But those offensive linemen, they must enjoy when 293 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: they're opening up a hole because they got the L 294 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: twenty two, which is the end Zone coaches film, and 295 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: they see their Murray or Drake make a run because 296 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: now they want to go down there and and and 297 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: congratulate those guys. But it's like, just put it on us, 298 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: and that's so impressive. And you know, I thought last 299 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: year Sweezy and Mark Scilbert were the best two lineman. 300 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: Nothing against Humphreys. He needed to stay healthy and mature, 301 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: and I think he's done that. Pew obviously has been 302 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: steady when he's healthy. You know, he had Mason Cole 303 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: and Shipley. But once again, I think if you look 304 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: at Sweeze and he doesn't you know, he doesn't really 305 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: do a ton of media interviews. He was available when 306 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: the locker room was open. I think on paper, I mean, 307 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: he's one of the most physical guys on the team. 308 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: He doesn't miss many games, he doesn't miss many snaps. 309 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: He plays through injuries, and he brings some physicality to 310 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: this unit. So you know, I know it's a unit 311 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: that has five guys and they have a rotation of 312 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: three other guys. But I can make the case that 313 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: probably he's got the biggest upside, well not biggest upside. 314 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: I think he's probably the most consistent lineman they have 315 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: on the roster. He started all sixteen games last season. 316 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: And the physicality and really a nice guy to talk to, 317 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: a great guy. But when he's between the white lines, 318 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: it is all business. And I've heard Darren Urban and 319 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: Kyle Dugard talk about this at after games, you know, 320 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, home games. Sweezy, Yeah, he'll talk to whom 321 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: ever asks, but you know what he needs more than 322 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: that required ten minutes to cool down. He needs to decompress, 323 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: and so at home games, oh you wait. Around road games, 324 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: Darren and Kyle can't wait. They got to get their 325 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: information that I get into other quotes, get there on 326 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: the bus and then start heading back to the valley. 327 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: But that is how it's a different mindset for some 328 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: players that they have to get to or play with 329 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: and then once the whistle blows and the game is 330 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: over with, you can't all of a sudden expect to 331 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: be answering questions ten minutes later. Some guys can, and 332 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: I plow them for it. But Sweezy is one of 333 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: those guys that says, look, I'll talk to you, just 334 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: give me a little minute, let me collect my thoughts 335 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: and let me just kind of go back to j R. 336 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: Sweezy guy on the street as opposed to j R. 337 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: Sweezy football player. Yeah, if if you didn't walk up 338 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: to him and say do you have a minute, And 339 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: a lot of times you know they draw the shower 340 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: and getting dressed and have a meeting. He always says, 341 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: give me a minute, put a shirt on whatever, and 342 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: but he's not going to search you out. But I 343 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: just think the physicality part again, DJ huffers your starting 344 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: left tackle. We've talked about right tackle at length. I 345 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: get it, and he plays the interior, but he's one 346 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: of the more physical guys on that line, and I 347 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: think it shows. And they love blocking for Kyler Murray 348 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: and when they see some of those runs, man are like, 349 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: let's do it again. Well, how many times have we 350 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: seen Sweezy and Justin Peugh on the other side pulling 351 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: to the other side that run by Kenyan Drake in 352 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: Seattle that we always reference, that was Justin Pugh pulling. 353 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: There was a run during the red and white practice 354 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: that was to me almost seemed identical to that Seattle run. 355 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: It went to the other side, though, and that was 356 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: with Eno Benjamin. A huge hole and if the center 357 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: and guard can seal and then you've got your tackles 358 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: that are sealing the edge, not allowing the outside linebackers 359 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: to come upfield, and then you put your running backs 360 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: or in this case sometimes Kyler Murray in an advantageous 361 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: position to not only get to the second level, but 362 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: maybe even the third level. And we talked about it 363 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: how how successful this team was as far as rushing 364 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: the football before getting hit that first contact, and they 365 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: ranked number two according to Pro Football Focus, behind only 366 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: Carolina as far as how many yards they were able 367 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: to gain before first contact. And you know, running backs 368 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: love that because some running backs you get hit, they're done. 369 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: Others you get hit and they'll spin away or fall forward, 370 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, a three yard game becomes 371 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: a six yard game. And I think that's although we're 372 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: all anticipating more of the passing attack this year this team, 373 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: and will keep stressing it until we're proving otherwise maybe 374 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: week one, this team has to be able to run 375 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: the football, and that's got to be you know, they 376 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: got to pick off where they were last year, and 377 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 1: according to Coogler, he thinks they can be better. He 378 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: thinks they got more depth. Now there are games obviously 379 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: playing in the NFC West. Seattle's front seven is really good. 380 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: We know Seattle obviously, you know, maybe they don't have 381 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: the household names the pass rusher, but their linebackers across 382 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: the board are really good. And Jared Reid is really good. 383 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: So he's going to get beat on some plays. Not 384 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: when teams run stunts, so maybe you know it's not 385 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: their forte. Usually you got to pick up a man 386 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: they could slide protection. But you know, I do think 387 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals five starters are better in run blocking they 388 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: are in pass protection. Now, Kyler covers a lot of 389 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: those blemishes because they can spread you out. They forced 390 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: teams to use the entire blade of the field, and 391 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: he gets rid of the ball so quick and he 392 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: can roll out and buy time. So I think it's 393 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: a good combination that their strength is running the football 394 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: and they're gonna get beat the other team gets paid. 395 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: But the fact is they still throw the ball and 396 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: won't have to worry about those forty eight sacks they 397 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: here a year ago tenth and rushing twenty fourth and 398 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: passing a year ago. And we certainly expect that those 399 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: passing numbers will improve for no other raising Kyler Murray 400 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: in year two in the addition of DeAndre Hopkins, and 401 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: I think those rushing numbers should be kind of in 402 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: the same area as well, maybe maybe a little bit 403 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: of a a drop off at that passing game becomes more successful, 404 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: maybe higher if Kenyan Drake gets on a roll. But 405 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 1: the question before is here today and it's come up 406 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: is how often do we see Kyler Murray run the football? 407 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: Not because he has to, but because it was a 408 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: designed run, and all of a sudden, he starts helping 409 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: that offense expand and opens up the field to where, 410 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: you know what, my guys are covered. Congratulations, defense, you've 411 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: you've taken all four of my weapons, but you left 412 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: this huge hole in the middle, and the offensive line 413 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: does its job, and all of a sudden, Murray's got 414 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: eight yards. You know, he discussed this on the Red 415 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: Sea Report, and you know, I think Kyler has figured 416 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: out the zone read. It starts in high school. It 417 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: starts you know, obviously he's carry over to the NFL 418 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: and college football, and that is when he's in the 419 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: shotgun and basically a zone ead is he has the 420 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: ability to either take the ball and hand it off 421 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: and it's all based on the defensive end. If the 422 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,239 Speaker 1: defensive end is trying to get sucked in, he has 423 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: ability to put in the belly of the running back 424 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: or take off and then RPOs really are three plays. 425 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: It's he can hand it off, he can run, or 426 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: he can throw it. So the RPOs and he's been 427 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: doing that since high school. So, like I mentioned, if 428 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: they want to put six guys in a box, Cardinals 429 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: is gonna line up and run the football. If they 430 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: want to put seven and they want to put a 431 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: spy on him, well I think they can spart him 432 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: out with eleven or twelve personnel. So it's really a 433 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 1: chess match, not checkers. A chess match, and you know 434 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: teams will try to slow him down. But I think 435 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: you know you're going to be surprised what this offense 436 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: could look like, because once it's clicking, I think it's 437 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: going to be harder to defend. There was I don't 438 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: remember what day it was, but there was a question 439 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: in Baltimore at Ravens Camp as far as how often 440 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: would Lamar Jackson run this year? And people want to 441 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: put a number on it. I went back and looked 442 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: at what Murray how many times he was credited with 443 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: a rushing attempt ninety three, which was third most, one 444 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: fewer than David Johnson had Kenyan Drake one hundred and 445 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: twenty three. But ninety three rushing attempts for Kyler Murray, 446 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: to me, that sounds a little high. But I could 447 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: certainly see that number getting into triple digits this season, 448 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: especially if it comes within the flow of the offense 449 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: and you're not forcing it. Yeah, and again, they have 450 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: to stay away from those third and eleven, you know, 451 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: third and twelve, And that was him, you know, obviously 452 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: running he was trying to outrund lineman. In college, you 453 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: can do that. It wasn't gonna happen in the NFL. 454 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: So cut down in a negative place. But yeah, if teams, 455 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: if they can you know, spin the ball around the field, 456 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: I mean, teams are gonna have to, you know, go 457 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: with nickel and dime defense. That means there's holes in 458 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: the secondary and if he gets past the front guys. 459 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: Now he's smart enough to run out of bounce. He's 460 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: smart enough to sit if he thinks he's going to 461 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: get a big hit. So yeah, to me, that's what 462 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: makes them so dynamic is he's a dual threat. Now, 463 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: you know the Ravens, they have really good running backs 464 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: they drafted in the Robbins, and then they also have 465 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: mark Ingram. They have really good tight ends. So for 466 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: Lamar's sake, yeah, if a defense breaks down, he has 467 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: the ability to run. I don't think they want to 468 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: run him as much they and I think he learned 469 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: he needs to be a pocket passer and not the 470 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: last couple of playoff games haven't worked out for him, 471 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: but he's so dynamic and just what they do upfront. 472 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: But I think they're similar. But I wouldn't I wouldn't 473 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: say that, you know, Murray's going to have a number 474 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: on him of how many times he's gonna run. Well, 475 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: I think we might see him run or be a 476 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: part of that offense as far as the run game 477 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: is concerned, a lot earlier in this season than we 478 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: did a year ago, because I think last season he 479 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: was I don't know if hesitant is the right word, 480 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: but certainly he picked his spots a little bit, and 481 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: I think he was a little bit more deliberate as 482 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: far as trying to throw the football, especially on those 483 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: first four weeks, and not utilize his legs as a 484 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: way to keep the defense on its heels. I think 485 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: it's a great point. I noticed that after the Ravens game, 486 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: and he obviously, you know a lot of quarterbacks, especially 487 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: early in the season, you come back to the bench 488 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: and I think Cliff lets him, you know, blow off 489 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: some steam. Maybe he'll have Cam Cameron, who wears the 490 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: green hat, come over and look at the micropad or 491 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: Microsoft pads, and but you could see he was watching 492 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson in that game. I saw him on the 493 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: sidelines a lot of times. He's holding his shoulder pads 494 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: underneath by his neck, and he was watching them. And 495 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: I thought after that game he was more selective when 496 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: he was going to run because he saw what it 497 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: can do to opposing defense in person. Yes, and he 498 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: sees how fat And I think Murray's just as fast. 499 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it doesn't matter you're going to 500 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: three or four, three, five. I'm just saying in general, 501 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: just going back to that ninety three number, if you'd 502 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: divide it by sixteen, that's a little less than six 503 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: Russian attempts per game. Still sounds a little bit too 504 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: much for a quarterback. But this is not This is 505 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: not just a quarterback. This is a as we say, 506 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: a dual threat quarterback. He would much rather throw the 507 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: ball than run it. But it's that ability to run 508 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: it that I think if you're a defense you have 509 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: to account for. And we we saw it the last 510 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: game of the season at the Los Angeles Rams. He 511 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: couldn't run and the Rams defense knew it, so they 512 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: played differently than perhaps if Murray was one hundred percent 513 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: because now all of a sudden. You have to account 514 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: for his ability to run the football out of that 515 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: shotgun or under center. Look how he ran in their 516 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: first win in Cincinnati. I mean he set up that 517 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: field goal for Gonzales. Now you want to fast forward, 518 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: same division team, Pittsburgh. Couldn't he couldn't outrun Mika Fitzpatrick. 519 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Murray obviously was receivers recovered, the Titans recovered 520 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: decent protection. He rolls to his left and he's trying 521 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: to put a move on him in basically in Baldy's breakdown, 522 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: Mika Fitzpatrick said, I was putting this. We were spying 523 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: on him. Hey, you want to put a spy him. 524 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: I always feel that lets somebody else, somebody else is 525 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: going to be open. Some teams will just line up 526 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: and play man to man like the Cardinals want to do, 527 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: and say you're gonna have to beat us. Well, I'm 528 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: glad you brought up that Cincinnati game. That's the first 529 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: win of the season. Cardinals had a three game winning 530 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: streak and in all three of those games, Murray had 531 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: double digit Russian attempts ten eleven and ten eleven was 532 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: a season high. And you just look at the five 533 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: wins that the Cardinals had in twenty nineteen, Murray ten 534 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: Russian attempts eleven ten and in the final two games 535 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: Cleveland and at Seattle eight and six. You have to 536 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: figure out a way to kind be balanced, but at 537 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: the same time it's a weapon, and he has to 538 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: be smart enough to know when to push that button, 539 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: if you will, and all of a sudden become Kyler 540 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: Murray that no one can stop. And you know, if 541 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: you want to say, well you should the Ravens game, Mike, 542 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: what happened in the Carolina game, Well, they got blown out. 543 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: It was close, and then all of a sudden. That's 544 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: the other thing. If if you're if you're trailing, which 545 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: the Cardinals were a lot last year, then you have 546 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: to throw the football and then the numbers get out 547 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: of rock. But you could see though, as I mean, 548 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: I didn't. I thought maybe seven to eight, nine, double digits, 549 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: three and now was what they won. And when they 550 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: when they ran the football for close to two hundred yards, 551 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: they won those games last year. That's right, the five wins, 552 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: they averaged over two hundred yards rushing, and a lot 553 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: of that is Kyler Murray and Kenyan Drake and Chase Edmonds. 554 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: So it's not just all on Murray's feet. But what 555 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: we're getting out of here is as much as we're 556 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: all excited to see DeAndre Hopkins on the football field 557 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: week one and and go for one hundred yards, you know, 558 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: half a dozen times if not more, this season, it 559 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: always comes back to being able to run the football 560 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: and something that Kingsbury has said from day one, even 561 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: though no one believes him when he says it. Yeah, 562 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: now we can look at Kenyan Drake and Chase Edmonds 563 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: at some point last year. In fairness to Drake, he 564 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: didn't get here to the final eight games. Murray loved 565 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: the team in rushing, So let him all focus on Murray, 566 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, let him focus on Drake and Edmonds because 567 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna he could put up four hundred and five 568 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: hundred yards this year. What do you have last year? 569 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: Five hundred and forty four? Okay, I've seen him over 570 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: one hundred at five to twelve, So I'm right now 571 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: I would take twelve. That's a that's a very specific 572 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: number there. Yeah, well, I don't know how that's you know, analytics, 573 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: you know he's putting numbers in there. I think maybe 574 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: it's about whose defense he's gonna face. So you're going 575 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: the over, I'll take the over. All right, well hereund 576 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: just go take the over. Murray asked about a specific 577 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: number and mind as far as how many times he'll 578 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: run the football this season. Answered quote, if coach calls 579 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: my number, he calls my number. If I need to 580 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: make something happen, I'll make something happen. End quote. He 581 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have a number, and mind, I don't know if 582 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: anyone has a number of mine. I know we all say, 583 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, number of targets, number of Russian attens. But 584 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: when it comes to a quarterback, you know, I'd be 585 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: perfectly fine if the number was zero, but you still 586 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: have to account for his ability to take off and run. Okay, 587 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: I want to know how many design runs of those 588 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: ninety three lest year. How many were designed like the 589 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: first option or because the second first option, second option, 590 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: and hey, in case of emergency, now you've got to 591 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: run the ball. Well, it's a good question, because it's 592 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: a load I mean, it's a load of question, but 593 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: it's you're right. I'm just wondering where the thirty five 594 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: design runs where they're forty because now you're scrambling half 595 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: and the others are design runs. Yeah, because you scrambled 596 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: on down in distance obviously personnel. But design runs is like, 597 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: all right, we see something. Harry's gonna run and wrap 598 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: the middle, yeah, or you it's not called you break 599 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: the huddle and you see what the defense is showing you, 600 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you just said, the middle 601 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: just becomes like the part end of the red sea 602 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: and you take off, and all of a sudden he's 603 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: into the secondary. It is fascinating because you certainly don't 604 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: want to see him get hit talking about Kyler Murray, 605 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: but as you mentioned, he certainly knows how to absorb 606 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: those hits, how to take the hits, and then, as 607 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: we've seen a couple of times, just kind of sit 608 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: back and and you know, declare himself down and just 609 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: like I'm done, you know, raise the white flag. You 610 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: know what. I'm gonna just slide right here or just 611 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: fall down right here, and I'll take the loss. And 612 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: hopefully this year it's not ten eleven yards, it's only 613 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: a couple of yards. Yeah, I'll say this. 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Want to go back 625 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: to some things that advanced Joseph had to say earlier 626 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: today and again the Cardinals are considering this a mock 627 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: game week, so once a week the defensive coordinator will 628 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: speak and a couple of things that caught my eye 629 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: outside of what we touched on earlier with regards to 630 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons, but Joseph was asked about the edge rush depth. 631 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: We know about Chandler Jones, we know about Devon Kannard, 632 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: and then the question is, all right, who do you have. 633 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: We're all assuming that it's going to be Hassan Reddick, 634 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: just because well, I think a lot of it is 635 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: hope that he takes that step and finds a natural position. 636 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: But the first name out of Joseph's mouth was not 637 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: his on Reddick. It was Kylie Fitz. Kylie Fitz has 638 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: been here last year. He looks the part and really 639 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: just hasn't not the opportunities. You know, last year they 640 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: were kind of mixing matching. When the Sugs went down, 641 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: they move Reddick out there late in the year. Yeah, 642 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you know that's that's what training camp is 643 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: four and and they if you can stack back to 644 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: back good practices and stack you know, weeks together, you know, 645 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: another guy could play on special teams. But you know, 646 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: we talked about it, you know, after the top two 647 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 1: between Kennard and Jones and then they're they're excited about Reddick, 648 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: and I hopefully he just plays freely and you can 649 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: just go out there and play and make some plays. Um, 650 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: Kylie Fitz. I mean, right now, you would think the 651 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals would have thought of maybe having some interest outside 652 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: the team right now, But they also have Dennis Garlick 653 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: out there. You know, he's gonna play with his hair 654 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: on fire. I mean, he's more of a you know, 655 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: an energy guy, he's gonna have to win some one 656 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: on one matchups. But yeah, um, do they keep four 657 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: or five out there because you know you're playing at 658 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: three four and we know who the top in three 659 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: inside linebackers are Fits six four, two hundred and sixty pounds, 660 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: So he certainly is built as an obvious Yes, he 661 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: only had credited with two tackles. It was just a 662 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 1: matter of reps and opportunities with Reddick and Guardeck. Joseph 663 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: brought up the fact that this is their first year 664 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: and for Reddick, I know he's been bounced around, but 665 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: they don't have the experience, at least at this level 666 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: as being outside edge rushers, and that might be why 667 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: Fits right now is a little bit maybe ahead. If 668 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: you're just kind of parsing what Joseph had to say. 669 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: When you're looking at the depth chart, it's it's Chandler Jones, 670 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: it's Devon Knard, and dare we say it's Kylie Fitz 671 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: at number three. Yeah, I mean he's going to be 672 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: in the rotation. I believe he'll be active on game 673 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: day just because he plays on teams. Yeah, so that's 674 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: great to hear because We've looked at the roster and go, well, 675 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: is there anybody out there? Clay Matthews, you know, Clowney's 676 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: more you know, high ticket item and he plays defensive end, 677 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: outside linebacker. But they feel like they got the guy 678 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: in house. And again, we've carted them so much for 679 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,479 Speaker 1: the inside linebacker position, and we don't talk about Tanner 680 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: Valao as much. And Ezekiel Turner obviously look Evan marsh 681 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: and you know Campbell and Hicks and miss Simmons. But yeah, 682 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 1: you can never have enough depth, and you can never 683 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: have enough pass rushers. And the one thing both Guardeck 684 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: and Reddick against them is their size. Dennis Gardeck six 685 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: thirty two, Reddick six one two thirty five. Now both 686 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: of them have experienced in college. That's what Reddick did. 687 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: And then Gardeck, he addressed the media earlier today, said 688 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: he was an outside linebacker in college and that kind 689 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: of allows him now at the NFL level to kind 690 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: of play more free and more how he would like 691 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: to play. As he said, his harror's on fire. But 692 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: there is something to be said when you're six one 693 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: six two and you're going up against a six six 694 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 1: six five left tackle or right tackle. At that point 695 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: it all becomes about technique. Yeah, I mean, those are 696 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: tough matchups, and you know obviously that that that's one 697 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: thing the advance is gonna have to do if you 698 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: don't want to see both fits and the third or 699 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 1: fourth fifth string outside linebacker in the game, because sizewise, 700 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna get beat there. But you know, Gardex, he's 701 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: a Tasmanian devil on special teams. And you know if 702 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: he's called upon, you know, on third down or something, 703 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: and you want to just bring the kitchen sink, let 704 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: him go. I mean, because sometimes you can bring more 705 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: than they can block. Yes, he bring in seven or whatever, 706 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: and you start counting the numbers. You know, maybe he 707 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 1: is and I know he would certainly love an opportunity 708 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: to play more defense. Three guys come to mind, Gardeck 709 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: Zeke Turner and then offense Trench Surfit. Yes they've but 710 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: they've cut their teeth on special team. They've made their 711 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: mark on special teams. You can have a career on 712 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: special teams, but everyone, if you're an offensive player, wants 713 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: to catch the football or be a part of the action. 714 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: And on defense, yeah, you want to be able to 715 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: make a tackle on defense force of fun, will catch 716 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: an interception if possible. The other area that Joseph was 717 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: asked about the defensive line. His response quote, on paper, 718 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,760 Speaker 1: it's better, obviously. And we know the top two Corey 719 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: Peters Jordan Phillips. We've been talking about Peters forever now, 720 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: and Phillips has certainly garnered a lot of attention because 721 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: of the free agent acquisition and just his size. But 722 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: then the third name is Zach Allen, and according to Joseph, 723 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 1: Allen has quote come a long way from last season, 724 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: and he says that he's kind of filled out his body. 725 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 1: He has gotten stronger, something you always say about those 726 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: rookies in year two, Zach Allen, because he was hurt, 727 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: was not only able to rehab, he was also able 728 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: to gain bulk and not bad weight, but good weight 729 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: to be one of those guys in the trenches. Well, 730 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: it sounds like they're expecting big things from him. And obviously, 731 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: when you go out and spend the money in the 732 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: commitment to Jordan Phillips, you know you still have two 733 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: defensive tackles you drafted. I think Jonathan Buller could be 734 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: a really good rotation guy with Zach Allen. But it's 735 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 1: not like Zach Allen's going to play thirty five snaps, 736 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: so they're counting on him to push the pile. And 737 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: they're really effective in the run defense. And you know, 738 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: I look at Zach Allen, Mason, call Dan Arnold, they 739 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: all need to get stronger. I put Isaiah Simmons in there. 740 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: You could just see it. And once they get a 741 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: little money in their pocket, they start to fill out. 742 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: Obviously they have a nutritionist and obviously they you gotta 743 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: watch what you eat, but they'll fill out and spending 744 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: time in the weight room doesn't happen overnight. But I 745 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: like the progress that Zach Allen's made because you know, 746 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: let's be honest, they're counting on him. Yeah, and according 747 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: to Joseph, Zach has every tool he needs. We're finally 748 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 1: seen that player in respect to that player that they 749 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: drafted and was so so successful at Boston College as 750 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: far as those one hundred plus tackles he had as 751 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 1: a junior at Boston College. So again I'll use the 752 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: phrase that we've been using all offseason, and Joseph used 753 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: it earlier today, on paper, things look much better, not 754 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: only defensively but offensively with this team, and now it's 755 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: just a matter of seeing it and just a little 756 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: over ten days eleven days to be specific. Yeah, I'll 757 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: tell you this though, beat cl turnaive to where you're 758 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: struggling or looking that everything's on paper. Yeah, you know 759 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like they're set up if they do 760 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: have some injuries. They feel really good about the offense. 761 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: And we talked about it. If this defense can just 762 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: improve from the bottom third until the middle, that's going 763 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: to go a long way. You don't want this team 764 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: have to score thirty five and forty points every week 765 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: while they were dead last in yards per game and 766 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: twenty fourth in rushing yards per game, and those are 767 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: two areas specifically. Stopping the run is something that this 768 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 1: Cardinals team certainly wants to get better at, because now, 769 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, what do we hear Joseph say 770 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: every single week? It starts with stopping the run, and 771 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals had struggles stopping the run last season, and 772 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: hopefully that is something that is corrected. Yeah, and I 773 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: asked Jordan Hicks, you know, I've been touting this and 774 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: we'll see what comes to fruition, because they could ride 775 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: the hot hand. But three teams in the division, we 776 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: go running back by committee, and you know they all 777 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: do something different different teams, and they're gonna face that 778 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: in Week one, and we know how much motion and 779 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 1: shifting that Kyle Shanahan does. Now he's gone against Kyle 780 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: Shanahan for a long long time, and so Vans has 781 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 1: more talent. Now it's how does he call a game, 782 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: because now there's that chess match going between Shanahan and 783 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph, and you know, they probably feel like they 784 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 1: can exploit something here on the Cardinals. We go back 785 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: to last year's games. People said that Cardinals should have 786 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: beat him twice. I'll take a split, but they went 787 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: toe to toe with them, and Kylin Murray was not 788 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: too big for him. He was very very good, I believe, 789 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: four touchdowns, no interceptions, and a quarterback rating upwards in 790 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: the low one hundred. So he was very successful against 791 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: one of the better defenses in the league, in which 792 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: you saw during the postseason. He had the best QBR 793 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: rating against the Niners in two games, let alone one 794 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: game that somebody else had. And that is what we 795 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: hope to see coming up on September thirteen from the 796 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals travel to the forty nine Ers to open up 797 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty regular season. On that note, we will 798 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: put a lid on this edition of Cards Cover two 799 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, 800 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer, Jim Mama hundred for 801 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki. I'm Greig Riel Loup. We'll talk to you 802 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: next time here on Cards Cover two.