1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: If you missed any episodes of Russia Limbaugh The Man 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: behind the Golden E I B Microphone, you've missed more 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: great stories from some of Russia's closest friends, family, and colleagues. 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: All previous episodes are available now on I Heart Radio 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your podcast. On this episode 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: of Russia Limbaugh The Man behind the Golden E I 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: B Microphone, we take you further behind the scenes of 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: the radio program. So on today's show, you're gonna hear 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: from two people that are connected with Rush almost for 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: the entire length of the radio show, but they were 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: also very involved in Russia Lamba the television show. Both 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: are very dear friends, both a very dear co workers 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: of mine. Today you're going to find out who Coco 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: and Cookie really are. Whether you listened every day you 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: are at the E I B Network and the Russia 16 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: Bot program heard on over six hundred great radio stations 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: where every now and then nation's leading radio talk show, 18 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: the most eagerly anticipated program in Americans are the stories 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: you've never heard from the people behind the scenes who 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: knew him best and loved him most. Brushwood Ball having 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: more fundily human being, it could be allowed to have 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: Rush Limbaugh, the man behind the Golden E I D microphone, 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: hosted by James Golden. Hey, James Golden here. 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I B Mike, I'm James 43 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: Golden and today it's the Cookie and Coco Show. So yes, Now, 44 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: over the years, all of you who have listened to 45 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: the Russia Lambus showed have heard him refer endlessly to 46 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: both Cookie and Coco. And we have the and this 47 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: isn't cocoa like hot Coco. This is cocoa like Ko 48 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: Ko Coco. Yeah, GURUO Coco's right? Yeah, Okay, I can 49 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: hear media matters right now trying to make something racist 50 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: out of that. Oh well, let's explain to everybody Cookie, 51 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: how you got the name Cookie? How did that happen? Okay, Well, 52 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: when I was working on the Rush TV show, there 53 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: was a story in the Washington Post about ABC News 54 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: reporter COKEI Roberts that she had to go to a 55 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: gala um immediately after her report that evening. So she 56 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: put on she had her evening gown under her raincoat, 57 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: and they put her in front of a green screen 58 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: with the Capital behind her, and she pretended to do 59 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: a stand up live from the Capital in front of 60 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: you know, the green screen. Well, the story got out 61 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: and So on the Rush TV show, we did a 62 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: skit where I was the E I B reporter, Cookie Gleason. Uh, 63 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: and I did a report for E I B News, 64 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: and the green screen behind me kept changing locations. It 65 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: went from the Capital to like the NBC News News 66 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: car crash too. It just kept they kept changing it. 67 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: So from that day on, I was always Cookie, and 68 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, Rush always called me Cookie. So that's how 69 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: I got the name Cookie. All right, Now, what's your 70 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: real name? No, my real name is Kathleen Gleason Priyas. 71 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: And so there's gonna be a reveal here soon the second. 72 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: So now let's turn to Coco and Coco. How did 73 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: you come about the name Coco? And and and and 74 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: again that is not cocoa, like hot cocoa. That's like 75 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: gorilla cocoa. Okay, okay. Oh. I came to the Rush 76 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: TV show in and I was a production assistant and 77 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: I was the low man on the totem pole, as 78 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: they say, and uh, they were going to do a 79 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: skit about Coco the sign language speaking gorilla, and Rush 80 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: thought this was hilarious that they people thought a guerrilla 81 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: could speak sign language. So the bit was that Russia 82 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: was going to do the story on the gorilla and 83 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 1: I was gonna be in the little box in the corner, 84 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: signing for other gorillas who were watching. And so they 85 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: were looking for somebody to put on the gorilla suite. 86 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: It turned out to be me. That'll be a chapter 87 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: in my life story and never be afraid to put 88 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: on the guerrilla suit. So I put it on, and 89 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: I had no idea what was going to happen, And 90 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: so we just started the skit and Rush got one 91 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 1: look at me in that guerrilla suit in the corner 92 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: of the screen and he just cracked up. He could 93 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: not stop laughing. And we did the skit and people 94 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: loved it, and he just kept laughing. It was like 95 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: one of the few times that Rushed, you know, kind 96 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: of lost it, you know, because he always was the 97 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: king of cool, you know when he was performing, and 98 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: and we just went did this skit and he was 99 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: having the greatest time, and he laughed and laughed and laughed. 100 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: And then from that point on, I was Coco. He 101 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: would see me, and he didn't know my name before that, 102 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: he didn't know who I was before that. I was 103 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: just another guy on the TV show. But after that, 104 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: every day I'd see him, Coco, how are you? And 105 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: that was it. We were we were friends from that 106 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: point on. He just we just clicked and we always 107 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: had that memory and I was always Coco. And your 108 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: real name is It's George Pryas and there's no Gleam 109 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: but yeah, sorry, wait, wait a minute, and let me 110 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: go backwards. And Kathleen, you said your real name is 111 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: what Karl clean PRIs? I mean Glee in there? But 112 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: you know, so there's a story here. So when did 113 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: that happen? Well you know how these things happened, Jane, No, 114 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: I don't. That's why I oh, my goodness is so personal. Yeah, 115 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, we met on the TV show and you know, 116 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: became friends. In the beginning. She didn't like me, but 117 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: you know, I guess, I you know, was it the 118 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: gerrilla suit? It might have been. It might have been 119 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: that might have been the turning point. I don't know, 120 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: but we became friends and then at some point, you know, 121 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: we started, uh you know dating at the very end 122 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: when that TV show ended in ninety and then um, 123 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: we were together everything one Yeah, it was only fifty 124 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: six short months of dating. Yeah, yeah, we always we 125 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: hear a lot about that fifty six months and so 126 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: so you are you are the E. I B. S 127 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: married couple right now? Okay, before TV so the TV show. 128 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: Let me just go back Russia Num by the TV 129 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: show which is where I met both of you. Was 130 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: we were taping at Unitel Studios on Street and Russia's 131 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: work day was really amazing during that time as and 132 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm if I'm losing any of 133 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: the details here, Rush would get a normal time. You 134 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: you guys were already at the TV show location and 135 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: we were at the radio shop, those of us who 136 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: were working just on the radio. While working on the 137 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: radio show and would later come over to TV with him, 138 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: but he would do his show prep for the radio show, 139 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: and then there would be a telephone meeting. Is that 140 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: how it happened to figure out what was called meet up? 141 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: And how long did that meeting run? Usually? Um, well, 142 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: I would say about ten minutes because he knew wanted 143 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, it was all him. He was the 144 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: man with the ideas, he was the you know, it 145 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: was all him. I mean James, you know, the greatest entertainer, 146 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: the greatest performer, you know, the greatest radio showever, Rush 147 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: did it all. Yeah, And he would tell us and 148 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: which is not regular for producers were supposed to produce. 149 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: But with Rush, he you know, he would say I 150 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: want to do this this. Yeah, he really was. I mean, 151 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, God bless Roger Als and Dick Menser. They 152 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: were they were wonderful, and you know, they gave a 153 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: lot of great ideas. And but Rush Brush was the man. 154 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: It was him, And there were no writers. Rush was 155 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: the writer. There were no writers. Rush did it all. 156 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: Some of the things that Rush wanted and that you 157 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: guys were able to implement and make happen have later 158 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: showed up on other TV shows long after Rush decided 159 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: he didn't want to do TV anymore. Some of the 160 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: concepts that would develop doing Russland while the TV show 161 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: went on, and you saw them in various places. I 162 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: saw something one day on The Daily Show, which I 163 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: rarely watched, and I'm like, wait a minute, first, did 164 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: that all that stuff used to do? The thing with 165 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: the picture with the changed the lips, remember that that changed? 166 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: Then that became like a standard on late nights we 167 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: take a picture of Bill Clinton and put somebody else's 168 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: mouth there. But it still looked like Bill Clinton talking, 169 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: but the mouth would move and say thanks, that wasn't open. 170 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: And then we used to put Rush in a box 171 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: to react to audio clips that we would play. He 172 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: would he would be looking up at those, and then 173 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: we would look up at the you know, Clinton or 174 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: whoever was saying something stupid, and he'd been making faces 175 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: and reacting. It was so funny and the studio audience 176 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: loved it. And then remember Robert Reich, whenever we did 177 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: a story about him, he had a box. We had 178 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: a picture of him and he could barely see over 179 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: the bottom of the pure and most of that stuff 180 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: James that would come up in the production meeting at 181 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: four fifteen. Roger would come into the production meeting and 182 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: he could get Rush go on a little bit, you know, 183 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: like Rush would say something to him about, you know, 184 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: he wanted to do a story and Roger will, it'll 185 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: be funny if we did this, you know, like Roger 186 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: was outside of the box thinker. I mean, he brought 187 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: the Fat Lady in to sing on the fifth day 188 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: of the television show because everybody said Russia's show will 189 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: never make it. So Roger had this grand scheme and 190 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: on the fifth day, we would call our anniversary show. 191 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: We made it five days, and we would have a tremendous, 192 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: huge anniversary party. And we brought a fat lady in 193 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: who was gonna sing or not saying if we made 194 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: was Roger's idea. We have gotten our own gorilla, and 195 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: we will have this gorilla sign language. There it is. 196 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: Could you get a eight, jill all just a second? 197 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: The gorillas signing and I'm not even saying anything. Okay, Now, this, 198 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: Ladies and Gentleman, this is an actual newspaper story, Ladies 199 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: and Gentleman, from the Northwest Herald in Crystal Lake, Illinois. 200 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: It's a story about a third grade class and a 201 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: third grade stop laughing over there, pleaser disjects the section 202 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: that failed a drug test. Over there was that's why 203 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: we haven't a little in the dark. Okay. Now, the 204 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: teacher of this third grade classes a and named Mike Pincover, 205 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: and it is we should take the picture out of 206 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: the cameras and there thanks. You know. The sad thing 207 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: is that the liberals are understanding this. You know that 208 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: liberals are saying it's limball guy makes sense for the 209 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: first time. And I've been watching okay on each episode 210 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: of Russia Lumba the Man behind the Golden EI B Microphone, 211 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: we follow Russia Lymball's biographical journey with the help of 212 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: some of his friends, family co workers. Today is a 213 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: real treat. We're gonna look at the very impactful, influential 214 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: Clinton years. When you hear Russia Lamball in history, in 215 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: history books, there's always going to be a link with 216 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: President Bill Clinton. Who to walk us through those years 217 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: than Mary Mattlin. The Life of Russia Limbaugh, Chapter eight, 218 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: narrated by Mary Madaline. You wouldn't note at the time, 219 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: but in the election, a battle for the ages is born, 220 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: and not between incumbent President George H. W. Bush and 221 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:25,239 Speaker 1: its challenger, a young, smooth talking Democratic governor from Arkansas. 222 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: That election was over. Now at this point a political 223 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: chess match for the ages began between that very governor, 224 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: now President elect Clinton and the hero of this story, 225 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: talk radio icon Brush Limbaugh. It is it's fundamental to 226 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: remember that here are the Clinton's admitting their paranoia because 227 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: they didn't know how to deal with a non supportive media, 228 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: and all it was was just me on the radio 229 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: and some other local talk show guys in the wall 230 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: spreet journal at a Trump age, and they're acting like 231 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: it is the biggest threat to their existence ever. In 232 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: the process, Rush became the number one voice of Conservativism, 233 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: a mantle literally passed on by none other than President 234 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan himself in a treasured written letter. Russia's political savvy, 235 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: combined with an uncanny reality based ability to make the 236 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: complex understandable, helped the Party of Reagan get back on track. 237 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: In fact, with Russia at the helm, the GOP one 238 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: long shot landslide victories across the fooded plane, up and 239 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: down the ballot, plus the House majority for the first 240 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: time in over a half a century, now known as 241 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: a Republican revelutionation in it was the peak. It was huge. 242 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what shocked me, and it really did. 243 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: Clinton was flying into St. Louis in on the Air 244 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: Force one. He's doing an interview before he arrives with 245 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: the morning crew at camel X, our affiliate St. Louisi, 246 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: starts complaining about me. You got Russia, Lindball coming up here. 247 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: When you guys finished, you get come up at news. 248 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: You a three hour three hours everyone and nobody's gonna 249 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: say anything other way. No trick detective. Here's the President 250 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: of the United States, for the biggest bully pulpit in 251 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: the world, complaining about some guy in the radio for 252 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: three hours. It's no coincidence that the Rush Limbough program, 253 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: as you note, actually began during the Reagan administration, and 254 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: though the Clinton years were filled to the brim with 255 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: easy fodder for Rush to feast on, he spent the 256 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: years after battling a misperception that the show's success was 257 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: primarily built on the daily melodrama dished up by the Clintons. 258 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: In reality, the show's popularity exploded long before the presidency 259 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: was even a twinkle in Bill Clinton's eye. I can't 260 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: tell the number of people who believe that this program 261 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: arose to its current heights because Bill Clinton won the election. 262 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: This program got off the ground and became the most 263 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: listened to radio talk show in three years before Bill 264 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: Clinton ever fought about running for rof. In the end, 265 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: Rush reminded his listeners that his program never depended on 266 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: the party that was in power. I've often had a phrase, 267 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: my success doesn't depend on who wins elections. I can't 268 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: control who's gonna win elections anyway, Regardless who's in the 269 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: White House or not. By the way, just because your 270 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: team wins doesn't mean they don't screw up the whole objective. 271 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: Hears to have a good show, Rush Limbaugh hosted far 272 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: more than a good show. In fact, for decades after 273 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: the Clinton administration had come and gone, he probably carried 274 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: the conservative tords forward, both on the air and off 275 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: the air. Through the Stand Up for Betsy Ross campaign, 276 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: you changed the lives of dozens of hero families in need. 277 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: The campaign benefited the Tunnels Are Towers Foundation. Tunnel to 278 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: Towers bills mortgage free smart homes for our nation's most 279 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: catastrophically injured veterans and first responders to give them their independence. 280 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: For gold Star families and fallen first respond to families 281 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: with young children, Tunnel to Towers pays off mortgages in 282 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: full for these families and provides them with the comfort 283 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: of a home when their world has literally been turned 284 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: upside down. And thanks to this campaign to Stand Up 285 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: for Betsy Ross campaign, you have seemed to it that 286 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: we have been able to send a charitable donation in 287 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: total of five million dollars to Tunnel the Towers. Your kindness, 288 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: generosity and patriotism brought hope when it was needed. Most 289 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: but more of America's heroes in their families need your support. 290 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: Donate eleven dollars a month to Tunnel to Towers at 291 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: T two T dot org. That's the litter t the 292 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: number two T dot org. Let's tell people what you 293 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: were responsible for on the russlan Ball radio show and 294 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: you came over after TV. That happen? Actually, um what? 295 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: Towards the end of the television show, Rush asked me 296 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: to bring in my resume and he said to me, listen, 297 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: I am looking for an executive assistant like William F. 298 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: Buckley has. Her name is Frances Bronson, and she's fabulous. 299 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: She reads his mind, she you know, knows his every move. 300 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: That's the kind of person I'm looking for. Would you 301 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: be interested in work in doing that on the radio show? 302 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, um, yeah, I would love 303 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: to do that. You know, I was grateful to be 304 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: able to continue to work with Rush. Uh and now 305 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: on the radio show, I got to learn radio. It 306 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: was great, you know, great opportunity for me. So I 307 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: joined the radio show and I was in my little 308 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: cubicle doing my Francis Bronson work, which was like making 309 00:19:55,240 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: calendars and typing things up and getting coffee. And after 310 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: about five days I made a list of some other 311 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: things that I wanted in my cubicle. It was TV, 312 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: cable boxes, VCRs. And I went into him and I said, 313 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: do you is there any way you would consider getting 314 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: me this list of items for my cubicle. And he 315 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: looked at it and he said, well, my business partner, 316 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: John Accident is coming over this afternoon. I'll discuss it 317 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: with him, uh and and we'll get back to you. 318 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: And I was so grateful. I was like, okay, great, 319 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: thanks because James, as a as a person working in TV, 320 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: I was not used to have a job without TV 321 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: like I was always you know, listening watching hear in TV. 322 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: So sure enough, after their meeting that day, Russian John 323 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: came out of his office and Rush had my list 324 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: in his hand and he said, cookie, good news. We've 325 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: improved approved the entire list. And I was like yes. 326 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: So I got my good friend Frank Jeliah to come down, 327 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: use of course, the great engineer bath Hacker to come 328 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: down and hook me up. And boy did he hook 329 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: me up? Are you putting there as many VCRs as 330 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: we could and as many cable boxes, and I got 331 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: to record my heart out. So that's how I started 332 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: pulling audio for the show. I would try to find 333 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: things that were outrageous and that I knew would make 334 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: Rush crazy, you know, and that meant recording them on 335 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: a VCR tape giving the tape to either. At the time, 336 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: it was Marie Wallisburg, who was just a wonderful person 337 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: who's at CNN now that she would you know, edit 338 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: the tape for me, and we would do a little 339 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: cue sheet for Rush, telling him who what went him wear, 340 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: and you know, transcribe the sound, and we'd give it 341 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: to him. And it was like a little buffet, you know. 342 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: It was like he would pick maybe cut one or 343 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: cut five or nothing, or all of them, and he 344 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: would bounce off of them, you know. And that's how 345 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: it started. And then, uh, as as we got going, 346 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: there was the famous Gravitas montage, and I'm sure you 347 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: remember that. That's when Vice President Dick Cheney appointed himself 348 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: to be the running mate for Bush, and the media 349 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: all said he brings gravitas, right, George, he brings gravatas. 350 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: And so I heard like a few of them, like 351 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: four of them, so I strung them together, maybe Sam 352 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: Donaldson and you know, Wolf Blitzer and four people saying it, 353 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: and then I kept hearing it and hearing it so 354 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: that I just continued to make this huge montage. Then 355 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: they brought Joe in to do some of the you know, 356 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: the editing for me, to do all the editing for 357 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: me actually, So yeah, that's where the gravitas, the famous gravitas. 358 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: I gotta brag about her a little bit. I mean, now, 359 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, when people do montages, there's all kinds of 360 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: services out there that you can search keywords and stuff 361 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: on the internet. There was no none of the She 362 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: used to watch these shows and record them on a 363 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: VCR tape and then right down the time, like we'd 364 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: be you know, you know, at night at home or whatever, 365 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: and and you know, we'd be watching you know, Larry 366 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: King Live, and somebody would say something and she'd write 367 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: it down and then she, you know, Joe would have 368 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: to go rewind that tape eight hours and find that 369 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: one word. There's no transcripts or anything. You know. That's 370 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: how that all started. And this whole industry now does this, 371 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: and there's whole businesses that are devoted to providing these things. 372 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: You know, she started it at her desk there with 373 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: the VCR. So that's right, Kathleen. I mean those momtages 374 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: not only changed the trajectory of the show, they changed 375 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: the trajectory of what people on radio started doing. You 376 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: had another one. What my favorite? And I love the Gravitas, 377 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: but my favorite is the Taurus sell Kathleen, and so 378 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: loved it. He loved it. You can see it when 379 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: he whenever he played it, it would just light him up. 380 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: He'd smile. It was explained the Tauris Selly bit to people, 381 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is so funny. Well, John Booty 382 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: helped me with that, I have to say, and we 383 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: talked about what I wanted to do, and that was 384 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: taking the prosecutor right, George listing the charges against Torres 385 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: Sally Sally then Senator Torres Sally from New Jersey correct, 386 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: and he had given a very passionate speech on the 387 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: Senate floor denying it all. And you know when I 388 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: was crying, Yeah, I go crying about his childhood. And 389 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: we interspersed the prosecutor listening all the things that he did, 390 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, watch of cash gold watches. And then you 391 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: have Touris Sally saying something like when I was a boy. 392 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: This goes back a eighteen two thousand one. This is 393 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: a This is a montage of Senator Toura Sally, the 394 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: guy you had just heard a press conference where he 395 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: denied corruption charges. What we did after every denial, we 396 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: we inserted cut ins of a lawyer for the guy 397 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: who had corrupted trus Eli brand Simon, who was listing 398 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: this is not ts Eli's lawyer, it's the guy who 399 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: tried to buy trs Eli. It's his lawyer documenting what 400 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: trus Eli did while torris Elli is denying it, all 401 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: to challenge my integrity is beneath contempt. I do not 402 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: deserve this treatment. She watches a Rolex watch, diamond earrings 403 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: for his girlfriend. I have never television set ever, Oriental rug, 404 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: grandfather claw, other antique items, done anything suits at any time. 405 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: Parks to me fourteen deliveries of the envelopes of cash 406 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: to tors Eli's house to betray the trust of the 407 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: people of the state of New Jersey. Now let's move 408 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: over to the internet side. George, you were over at 409 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: Fox and then you were with us. How did that happen. 410 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: Kathleen had said to me that, you know, they're looking 411 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: for somebody. You know, it was there was two thousand 412 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: and they were looking for somebody to start a website 413 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: for Rush because you know Rush, he wanted to be 414 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: on the cutting edge of everything and websites were starting 415 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: to get popular then, and so she said, you know, 416 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: you should go for this job. And I thought about it, 417 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: and I I said sure. So um, I had worked, 418 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: as I said, with Matt Rudge, so I knew a 419 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: little bit. He taught me a lot about what he 420 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: did and and you know, the news business, and and 421 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: so I went and I interviewed with John Axton and 422 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: they decided to give me the job. So basically, at 423 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: that time Rush's website there was a website. It was 424 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: that picture of Rush where he's standing pointing to the 425 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,239 Speaker 1: golden EIB microphone, and that was it. It was just 426 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: that picture. That was a still thing. I started in 427 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: June of two thousand and I. Um, my first day, 428 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: I sat with John Acton and Brian Click click and 429 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: they had a you know, plans for how we're going 430 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: to build a website. And I was gonna be in 431 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: charge of the content, and so, you know, they really 432 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: had no idea what I was gonna do. They said, well, 433 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: why don't you go listen to the show. You know, 434 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: they had a little room for me. Um. I didn't 435 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: even have an office then, we barely had the internet 436 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: in the office that we were in. UM. And I, 437 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: you know, I sat and I listened to Rush for 438 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: three hours with I made a word file and I 439 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: still have it someplace, and I just kind of my 440 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: concept was that, you know, we're gonna just cut up 441 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: Rushes radio show in in like the form of a 442 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: website with articles, and so I would just listen and 443 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: to what he was doing, his topics, and I wrote 444 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: the headlines down on this word file. And then my 445 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: idea was, also you incorporate his nicknames and the things 446 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 1: that he said. So I'd say the truth detector, Clinton 447 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: says this, or or you know, uh, doctor of Democracy, 448 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, blah blah blah. And I made this little sheet, 449 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: like a little you know, eight or nine story sheet. 450 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: And after the show, I went back into John and 451 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: Brian and I showed them what I did and they 452 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: were like, wow, this this looks pretty good. Let's send 453 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: it to Rush. And so we sent it to Rush 454 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: and he says, I like it, go for it. And 455 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: that's how it stard And so then we built a 456 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 1: website from the bottom up, and um, you know, I 457 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: started hiring some staff. I hired Dean and Mojoe, and 458 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: that was at the beginning there. Um, and we just started, 459 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: um translating Russia's UH radio show to the to the Internet. 460 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: Every day. Yeah, we gotta transcribe, you gotta transcribe. Well, 461 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: in the beginning, we didn't have a transcriber. We were 462 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: we were recording the show on cassette tapes and like 463 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: playing it back and trying to write down what Rush said, 464 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: and then we would do like little intros into the 465 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: into audio. And then one day Russia is like, let's 466 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: just transcribe the show. I want full transcripts on the website. 467 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: And the suits at Premier at that time they weren't, 468 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, too thrilled with that, because you know, they 469 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: thought that that might add fodder to the people that 470 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: were you know, media matters was just starting then, and 471 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, they were a little leary about translating everything 472 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: Rush said for people to pick it over and find 473 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: things to object to. But Rush had the opposite view, 474 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: which was that if we printed transcripts of everything he said, 475 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: he would be proven, you know, he'd be able to 476 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: prove that he was taken out of context. And he 477 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: was really visionary in that because, you know, we started 478 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: printing transcripts of the show and we have a great 479 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: transcriber who did it for us for twenty years, Mark 480 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: kissling Berry. He's like the Babe Ruth of caption erst Yeah, 481 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: he's the fastest. He's in the Guinness Book, were all 482 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: the records. He's great um. And so we had the 483 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: greatest radio show host of all time with the greatest 484 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: caption er, and we would just translate it to the web. 485 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: Every day we print those transcripts, we cut them up 486 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: into different articles with headlines, and then we later we 487 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: added the Ditto cam and we added the Rush twenty 488 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: four seven subscriber service, and we had one of the 489 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: first podcasts, and we just built that site into something 490 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: that Rush was really really proud of and we were 491 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: really proud of, and it was it was a very 492 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: unique experience to be able to have one job was 493 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: to listen to one man talk for three hours every 494 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: day thing about Russia's you know, James and Kathleen knows 495 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: is there. There were no meetings, there was no direction given. 496 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: He just assumed that I was going to get it right. 497 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: Maybe every once in a while he'd say, hey, uh, 498 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: I like this headline better, or do this different way, 499 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: but hardly ever, it was just, you know, he let 500 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: us go, He let us add graphics to what he said, 501 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: and he trusted us that we weren't going to do 502 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: something that was out of step with what his he 503 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: was doing, and it just really became like this kind 504 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: of like symbiotic thing where we'd listened to him and 505 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: we'd know what to do and and you know, we 506 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: did it for for twenty years. The greatest just the 507 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: greatest boss. The kind of job does your boss just 508 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: let you just you know, let you do what you 509 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: want to do and not you know, just you have 510 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: an idea, you come up with an idea, you're able 511 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: to illustrate it, and when he does it, he does 512 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: your idea hundred fifty times better then you did it. 513 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: And it's it's amazing. It's a great feeling. It's a 514 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: great feeling. Yeah, it just he was the greatest that 515 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: now this is where I want to, uh to ask 516 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: you guys, we've talked about what you did. And by 517 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: the way, with the website, George, you know, for years 518 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: rush always told us he's not going to do a 519 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: website until he can understand himself how to monetize it properly, 520 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: because this is a business. And and that's what he did, 521 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: and that's what you brought to the table, a way 522 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: to do it in such a way that it became 523 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: part of the enterprise and it wasn't a loss leader away. 524 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: It was actually added to the bottom line. And that 525 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: was one of the things everybody in the radio industry 526 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: then the TV industry, websites were thought of to be 527 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: loss leaders and Rushi did not want that. And that 528 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: was one of the mandates when I when I came 529 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: in there was that, you know, we were going to 530 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: make this a business that worked. And the reason it 531 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: did was because rush knew that the content was what 532 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,959 Speaker 1: was gonna make it, and he was gonna make it 533 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: and that that's what you know. People thought that they 534 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't pay for the rest twenties four seven subscription service 535 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: when you can listen to free on the radio, um, 536 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: but rush knew that people would because we were providing 537 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: them something that was unique. You could only get Rush 538 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: in one place and uh, and it worked. And he 539 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: was visionary as as he always was. He like you said, 540 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: he didn't want to just do something that everybody else 541 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: was doing. He wanted to try to blaze a new 542 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: new path and we did. And then after that a 543 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: lot of radio show hosts would try to do you know, 544 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people did what we did, but rushed 545 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: it at first. I see, this is the thing that 546 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: that that blows my mind. And and with you too. 547 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: Everybody that works for Rush could have done something different 548 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 1: and been highly successful at it because they have so 549 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: much talent. But when they came on with Rush, this 550 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: is where they called home and it became a family, 551 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: and it became we want to all do the best 552 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: for us. She's that you're feeling on it too. Oh yes, 553 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: And I you know, I I sort of ran the 554 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I just sort of tried 555 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: to run the website the way Rush ran things, which 556 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: was we were going to just improv it the way 557 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: he did. And we weren't going to have tons of meetings. 558 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: I mean we had some, but we didn't have many, 559 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: and we just knew the mandate was that Rush comes 560 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: first and that we're gonna follow Russia's lead because Rush 561 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: was gonna know what was gonna work. And that's what 562 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: we did. And so it was such a great atmosphere 563 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: and it was such a great little team. Ali came on, 564 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think a year or two after the 565 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: rest of us, and because we were doing we needed 566 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: more people. It was it was too hard. Rush said 567 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: too many things in three hours. We had this close 568 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: knit team, and like everybody else in the organization, there 569 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: was very little turnover. We were all there for twenty years. 570 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: We were there because Rush kept us there. The Rush 571 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: is so compelling. He was so and some of these 572 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: people weren't even conservatives or or I don't even know. 573 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: We never even talked about that. It was just he's 574 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: just you know, once you start listening to him every day. 575 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: For everyone, who would want to do anything else. I mean, 576 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: it was a great job. I mean, what who would 577 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: It's no, I don't I don't know if any other 578 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: job like it, and you know, I don't think I'll 579 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 1: ever see another job like it. It. It's just because 580 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: nobody else is compelling enough to say so much in 581 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: three hours that you know, really you could. You could 582 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: write a whole newspaper based on what he he said. 583 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,919 Speaker 1: And that was sort of one of the things we 584 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: we thought about the website. You know, we're not any 585 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: different than the New York Times or the Wall Street 586 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: Journal of the Washington Post were rush, you know, and 587 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: we're doing it with four people and they're doing it 588 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: with five thousand people. But you know, what he's saying is, 589 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: you know, to us and to the audience, is is 590 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: just as important, if not more important, because he's the 591 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: only one saying it. You can go to it, like 592 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: he used to say, you can go to the New 593 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: York Times, Washington Post, ABCC. He has, but there was 594 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: only one Rush slumba dot com and that's where you 595 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,479 Speaker 1: where you you got those his opinion on things, which 596 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: was groundbreaking. Turns out I knew this was happy. You 597 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: can just sensed these things. November was our biggest traffic 598 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: month of the year at Russia Limbaugh dot com. We 599 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: had a record number of millions and millions and millions 600 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: of page views. So that is continuing to just go gangbusters. 601 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: And I'm really proud of it because we're proud of 602 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: the website. It is a plethora of data and information. 603 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's its own encyclopedia set when 604 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: you get down to it. Just the daily content of 605 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: every brother, the transcript, the voluminous content in this program, 606 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,439 Speaker 1: documented and preserved each and every day, and researchable by 607 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: everybody who goes to the website. If you heard me 608 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: say something on a previous program, you can't quite remember 609 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: what it is, you can keyword search it and find 610 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: the exact thing that I said. The literal voluminous content 611 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: at russi lumbaw dot com. I'll stack it up against 612 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: any media website in terms of actual substantive content, not 613 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: just what the news was, but what I thought of it, 614 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: not a daily basis. Let me just ask you this 615 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: and we'll we'll we'll end on this note. I want 616 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: both of you to think about for the second some 617 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: of your favorite memories of Russia. And if there's one 618 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: thing in particular that you want the world to know 619 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: about Russian law, what would it be. Let's start with you, 620 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: Kathleen m h. I mean twenty nine years I have, 621 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: that's it's hard. Um. I would say my favorite memory 622 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: was after my daughter Grace was born in two thousand 623 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 1: and seven after she was born. That Thanksgiving, Rush invited George, 624 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: Grace and I to spend Thanksgiving with the Limbos in 625 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: Palm Beach. And it was spectacular because we got to 626 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: meet all of his wonderful family and spend time with them. 627 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: And he used to invite seventy five or eighty family 628 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: members and he put them up at the Breakers and 629 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: he would entertain them for the entire weekend. And he 630 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: invited us UH to attend, and he was so generous 631 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: to us, right, George, it was unbelievable. Like we had 632 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: had a dinner on the Friday after Thanksgiving at the 633 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: golf club, the local golf club that he belonged to, 634 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: and he before dinner, he invited George and I uh 635 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: to to come up to the front of the room 636 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: and he was crying and carrying on, and there were 637 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: there were some other people. Matt Drudge was there, there 638 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: was some other you know friends was there, and and 639 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: Coulter and Rush stood up and he spoke about George 640 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: and I and our contributions to the show and the 641 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: people that we were, and it was unbelievable and unexpected 642 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: and amazing. I mean, can you imagine games you know 643 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: what that was like for us. And then the next 644 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: day he invited us over to his home to watch 645 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: a football game, a college football game, and George and 646 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: I we were supposed to be there at one o'clock. 647 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: We were scrambling around at the breakst time to get up. 648 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: We were late as always, and we're on our way 649 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: and I said, George, we're going to his house for 650 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: the first time, and we don't have a gift. We 651 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: got to bring a house warming gift or something to 652 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: say thank you. So George said, we'll stop at Green's Pharmacy. 653 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: So he ran into green Swarms. I said, by the 654 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: best thing you could buy to bring, you know, because 655 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: Rush like like the best. So George came out with 656 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: a beautiful five pound box of Whitman chocolates. It was 657 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: the sampler, you know, you get a little plate, and I, 658 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: I know, I know, we're late, and I'm like, we 659 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: really we're gonna so embarrassing. Yeah, and I'm looking out. 660 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: You got when you go to somebody's house, you have 661 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: to bring something, even if it's rush limball. So we 662 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: pull up at the gate and we were let in, 663 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: and we didn't realize that that at that time when 664 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 1: we were let into the gate and we parked, we 665 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: took a little longer in the car to get ourselves 666 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: together and to get out of the car, and we 667 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: rang the doorbell. The door opens and it's rushed and 668 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: he's like, welcome. It sure took you a lot of 669 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: time to get out of the car. And we were like, yeah, yes, 670 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: we bought you this box of candy. And he's like, wow, well, 671 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: thank you. And he proceeded to take George and I 672 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: out to the terrors where all of his entire family 673 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: and he said, everybody, everybody, can I have your attention? 674 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 1: All of you people comment Thanksgiving and you never bring 675 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: me anything, and came for the first time and they 676 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: bought nice box and candy and that was just that 677 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: was the great day. I think that was one of 678 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: the greatest days in my life. That's just funny. He 679 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: was so funny, and he was so funny, and he 680 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 1: was so and he loved the tease. Oh he would 681 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: tease me to I mean, and I loved it. I 682 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: loved it. I mean, I'm just James unbroken that he's 683 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: that he's gone, and he suffered so terribly because he 684 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: was just the greatest man just that my life is. 685 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like such a big loss, you know, 686 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: and I'm sure the listeners feel the same way, you know. 687 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he loved the audience. He would stand after 688 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: the television show every single night and greet every audience member. 689 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: What other you know, talk show host performer would greet 690 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: every audience member, Rush Limbaugh did, That's right. He would 691 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: sign autographs, he would Oh, James, I can't tell you. 692 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: He was just the most professional, wonderful person. Just I'm sorry, 693 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: and you and me and George, you talk about a guy, 694 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: I just you know, there was just nothing like him. 695 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: He was just, you know, so generous. Everybody that you've 696 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 1: talked to us said that. But he can't say it enough, 697 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: just how generous he was with his his time and 698 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: his just the way he his nature with you and 699 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: just I don't know, we we had such a unique 700 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: relationship with him because we, you know, being married and 701 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,760 Speaker 1: having the same job, and Kathleen's job was to watch 702 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: all of the know when Rush was used to say 703 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 1: on the air, um, you know, I don't have to 704 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: watch these cable shows. I pay people to do it. Well, 705 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: we were those people, yeah, you know, but George I'm 706 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,720 Speaker 1: sorry to interrupt, but even the thing people don't realize 707 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: about him was that Rush was a very shy person, 708 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: and he was a very private person, but he was 709 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: unbelievably generous, so much to the point where he would 710 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: be in his office doing show prep. He would open 711 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 1: the New York Post and he would see that maybe 712 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: something happened to a firefighter or a policeman, and he 713 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: would come out and he would say, Cookie, I want 714 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: you to find this family. I want you to find 715 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: the widow, and I want to know how much money 716 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: I can give them to help. I want to write 717 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: them a check so that every one of those children 718 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: their home is paid off and they all go through college. 719 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: So I want you to get that number and come 720 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: back to me with it, and you must tell the family. 721 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: They're never allowed to tell anybody that I did that 722 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,439 Speaker 1: for that And he did that numerous times. He did 723 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 1: that so many times. You know, he just was amazing, right, 724 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:51,720 Speaker 1: I mean, we're just blessed. I mean we wouldn't be together, 725 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: we wouldn't have our family if it wasn't for you know, 726 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: if we didn't come together with him, and he gave 727 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: us the opportunity to work together as we wouldn't know you. 728 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: We love you an inspiration to us. I mean, you're amazing. 729 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: You represent us. You know you fearlessly represented us on 730 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: those dark days in February. You know you're amazing what 731 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: you're just let me just say something. You know. Something 732 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: else Rush did for me too, was allowing all of 733 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: us to come together, and Kathleen let me um, let 734 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: me just in in today with us with another story. Um. 735 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: Through meeting you, Kathleen, and of course George, but through 736 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: meeting you, Kathleen, I got a chance to meet your 737 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: family too. You got a chance to meet your mom. 738 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:51,399 Speaker 1: And your mom was a saint and I'm not saying that, 739 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: like what a beautiful, wonderful human being who was just 740 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: so gentle. Her spirit was just so so warm and loving. 741 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,439 Speaker 1: And your mother gave me a hand painted I don't 742 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 1: even know what you call, and it goes over your doors. 743 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 1: It's flowers, It's right, It's a door, hand and hand 744 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,399 Speaker 1: painted it. And she gave me, she gave me one 745 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: of her hand painted door. And every place that I 746 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: have been since then, one of the first things I 747 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: have ever done when I moved into a new place 748 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: was put that above my front door. Mama Gleason is 749 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: above my front door right now, because she and I 750 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: will never ever ever forget your mother either, for just 751 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: what is. And we can see where your love and 752 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: where you come from, and where you're from, where your 753 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: family comes from. And now you and George have this 754 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: wonderful family and we know where that's going. So thank 755 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: you so much. But you know, just so we I 756 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 1: don't end crying. Can just tell you one short little thing, um, 757 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: just one more thing. And I have to tell you 758 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: Rush's family and James you and your family too. I mean, god, 759 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 1: just beautiful people. But Russia's mother, Millie, Oh what a 760 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: fabulous lady. She was right, and she of course I 761 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: got to be friends with her right away on day 762 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: five of the television show. So we were always keeping 763 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: in touch as you did too. And one day she 764 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: called the office to speak to Rusty, which wanted, you know, hi, 765 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: this mill In Limbaugh. How are you, Kathleen. I want 766 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: to speak to Rusty and uh, and you know, we 767 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 1: got talking and talking and she said, how's your mother? 768 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: And I said, oh, you know, Millie, she's great. She's 769 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: about to go on a riverboat cruise on the Mississippi, 770 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: and she she said, she is, well, I'm gonna go 771 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: down and greet the boat. When is that? And I'm like, well, 772 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll call my mother, but you don't 773 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: have to do that. You don't have to greet her boat. 774 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: She's just gonna be on the boat going on. Well, no, oh, 775 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 1: that's what we do. That's what we do. We go 776 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,399 Speaker 1: down and we waved to the people as they go 777 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 1: along the Mississippi. We greet the boats. Well, sure enough, James, 778 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: I told my mother, and my mother is like, Cathy, 779 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 1: that is so nice. I can't believe it. And I 780 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: told my mother to make sure when you get to 781 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,240 Speaker 1: Cape Gerardo, you go to decide the boat and you wave. 782 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: And sure enough there was Milly. She was there with 783 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 1: all her blue haired friends, a whole bunch of them waving. 784 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: Joni waven and my mother's waving. And you know, James, 785 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 1: that was that generation. They were. They were just the best, 786 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: right they. I mean, if I said to George, George, 787 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 1: We're gonna go down to the rat and River and 788 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: go wave at a boat, Georgia said, okay, exactly so, 789 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: but I think you know that was million. Yeah, but 790 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: thank you James, thank you, thank you, thank you both 791 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: for me dumb memory. It really has been and I'm 792 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 1: sure I'm sure that the that our audience is going 793 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: to absolutely love it. So thank you both of you. 794 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: I love both of you so dearly. We love to change. 795 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: You're a love. Thank you so much for joining us 796 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: for this episode of Rush Limbaugh The Man Behind the 797 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: Golden E I B Microphone and are very special thanks 798 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: to my dear friends, my dear co workers Coco and Cookie, 799 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: George and Kathleen. On our next episode, you're going to 800 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 1: hear from the most famous political odd couple in American 801 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: political history, James Carvel and his wife, the lovely Mary Madlin. 802 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 1: That's coming up in our next episode, Old Russia. 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