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Speaker 1: I gotta do the introduction. This is not only my brother,
Speaker 1: it's not only a person a new for twenty years,
Speaker 1: Kevi real Me and him never changed, always see each other,
Speaker 1: always smile, always proud of each other. But not only
Speaker 1: that top five producer all times, all times. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about from the and I'm talking about from the beginning
Speaker 1: of the hip hop to right now maybe top three. Damn.
Speaker 1: He's been here, he's been He's made albums, he's made artists,
Speaker 1: He's took artists from people he's an ex to all
Speaker 1: over the world. With the sound that he made, he
Speaker 1: continuously changed the sound of music, change the sound of
Speaker 1: music with me when he made a record for me
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get into that later and people started
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Speaker 1: the highest up. He's worked with him all tonight. We
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Speaker 1: salute our legends. We give all people they flowers when
Speaker 1: they can smell them, and they treats when they can
Speaker 1: help them. This is a show that we celebrate all legends.
Speaker 1: You know, so many people, uh that was me. So
Speaker 1: many people are busy, busy. You know, once you get
Speaker 1: ten years in this game, people say this over for
Speaker 1: you and things like that. That's not what we do here.
Speaker 1: It's I just wanted to explain that. But I want
Speaker 1: to let you know that tonight we are celebrating the
Speaker 1: legacy of Swiss motherfucking I want to take it from
Speaker 1: the beginning. I want to take it the beginning, very
Speaker 1: early on, because I believe the first time the um
Speaker 1: what what was it? Rough rider anthem? Was that the
Speaker 1: first time? What was the first time people heard? The
Speaker 1: first time I think was this group called the Reefs, right,
Speaker 1: and and the Reefs was signed Who's they signed to?
Speaker 1: They were signed to? Um? What's our brother? That that
Speaker 1: that manages um? He managed usua um big big, big exact.
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting his name. Brother that had the stroke? Oh Stewart, okay, um,
Speaker 1: he's gonna kill me for that. I'm you gotta excuse me.
Speaker 1: I'm straight. I'm from Shanghai, buy Texas. Mark what's Mark
Speaker 1: um um Um? Yeah? Mark Pitts legendary and Mark Pitts
Speaker 1: had stopped drop beat before everybody for about three thousand.
Speaker 1: She wanted to get it to fifteen. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm cool, Thank god as I said that, but get
Speaker 1: I did the Reefs and then I did flip most
Speaker 1: squad um run for cover, and then I met this
Speaker 1: fly dude, Yeah you go, that's right, And then it
Speaker 1: was we we we we we we uh disrespected a
Speaker 1: couple of things and was banned from TV. And then
Speaker 1: at that same time Cameron Glory with my brother and
Speaker 1: um Tara Rufo came after that, and then my rough
Speaker 1: Rider family all that before. That's always thought rough Rider
Speaker 1: anthem came out first. So you was on before that,
Speaker 1: I was earlier. This this is this is pun sleeping
Speaker 1: on the couch already telling you. So now your uncle
Speaker 1: is actually because people people don't understand that that's your
Speaker 1: real uncle. Like people think when you say uncle, they
Speaker 1: think that you're saying like uncle, like who raised you,
Speaker 1: but not really, this is your mother's brother, correct, my
Speaker 1: father's brother, your father's brother, and he is dun yeah,
Speaker 1: tatting on my mom is real life, for real. And
Speaker 1: one thing that people don't understand it probably in two
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen, is you know, rough Riders was in the
Speaker 1: streets before music, you know, from the bikes two three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand bikers street respected, you know before a lot
Speaker 1: of different names with logos and letters in front of them.
Speaker 1: You know, my family was literally in the streets movement,
Speaker 1: and it was my grandfather that was running Hollom at
Speaker 1: that time, building up the buildings. You know, um imam
Speaker 1: at that time running the fo I at that time,
Speaker 1: and you know, the movement that we had on was
Speaker 1: was was going against what my grandfather movement was. And
Speaker 1: so he made us make a choice. You're gonna do
Speaker 1: that if you're going to do the street vibe and
Speaker 1: and take away from the positivity that I'm putting in
Speaker 1: the community, I gotta leave or you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: problem with us. And those are the triple rolls, right
Speaker 1: And so um my uncle Juan, you know, he uh
Speaker 1: had this artist that he was talking about, d MX,
Speaker 1: Hollom Nights, a couple of artists and then we just
Speaker 1: you know, changed the whole direction into a positive way.
Speaker 1: Still keep the street now. DMX was like the first
Speaker 1: artist that rough Rider signed, correct, Yes, um, I mean
Speaker 1: that got signed to a major label. Yeah, and before
Speaker 1: the Locks Yeah they were no no, no, no, was
Speaker 1: it locks first first? Yeah? It was. It was first
Speaker 1: with rough Riders. Lux has been X has been first,
Speaker 1: Blocks was X pops. You understand That's how I said
Speaker 1: it on here too. Yeah, that's that's that's that's how
Speaker 1: that went. But I can't say that was concurrent. I
Speaker 1: can't say that my uncle Y had them in the
Speaker 1: studio at the same time. You know, I remember hearing
Speaker 1: more songs from the locks Uh studio done than X.
Speaker 1: X was more mixtape vibe at that particular time, and
Speaker 1: I love both of them. Remember, I wish I can
Speaker 1: get those beginning mixtapes that I heard from them, because
Speaker 1: it's just it was is there was in a very
Speaker 1: authentic space at that time. Is so authentic and X
Speaker 1: being like he's like, there's never be another X. But
Speaker 1: what I'm asking you is, did you know that from
Speaker 1: the beginning, Yes, I did from the beginning, like even
Speaker 1: before like he met with Leo with the box calling
Speaker 1: right there, who got the phone? Yeah, I got your
Speaker 1: killing that on Instagram. But so from the beginning, you
Speaker 1: knew this guy would change hip hop. And let me
Speaker 1: tell you how much I knew that. I knew it
Speaker 1: so much that I got kicked out of New York
Speaker 1: schools um and I had to move to Atlanta. I
Speaker 1: had that written down by the way kick out of school.
Speaker 1: And you know after that, I passed all the different
Speaker 1: things I wasn't used to, the gang activity and all
Speaker 1: those different things. I eventually landed back on my all
Speaker 1: my music right, and the way that I survived and
Speaker 1: that music. Ring was reciting X verses that nobody never
Speaker 1: knew about. X was out of the time, or he
Speaker 1: wasn't out, he wasn't out, But I just knew so
Speaker 1: much of his lyrics that I was living through him
Speaker 1: even in high school. And people were like, damn like,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, ship ain't they ain't gonna never know
Speaker 1: who excellent? So let me do my thing a little bit,
Speaker 1: I know. And I just he was really living in
Speaker 1: that street. That's why you said that, no, because I
Speaker 1: just never thought that we would ever be uh as
Speaker 1: far as we got, you know, I never I never
Speaker 1: knew that we can get out that backyard that we
Speaker 1: was in. I never knew that we can get out
Speaker 1: that box that we was in, that mentality that that
Speaker 1: we was in. So I was just having fun and
Speaker 1: kind of paying homage to X and and freestyling because
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's not here to say it. It's so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it right. And to this day, that's
Speaker 1: my dog. And I got a lot of great news
Speaker 1: from him this year. His album is Crazy and and
Speaker 1: and and I promise you it's going to it's going
Speaker 1: to change the game. And I don't say that like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like I downplay everything. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, like what Dog got to say
Speaker 1: on this is it's going to go from the streets
Speaker 1: to the Grammys and Charlotte. Like that's you know, because
Speaker 1: like I go home perfect time right now. I go home.
Speaker 1: I go home to a very comfortable lifestyle that I
Speaker 1: worked hard for, slept on studio floors, everything. And to
Speaker 1: see my brother that I started with not be where
Speaker 1: he should be. It fucks with me every night. So
Speaker 1: I didn't use all the excuses that I could have
Speaker 1: used not to know. We heard Room was a rock
Speaker 1: nation at first, but now we're hearing epic, epic, epic
Speaker 1: things are going on. I mean with the dog is
Speaker 1: he's epic, He's an epic energy, he's an epic vibe,
Speaker 1: he's an epic inspiration. There's none before, none to come after.
Speaker 1: And we got to protect that by any means necessary.
Speaker 1: And but I think the most important part is a
Speaker 1: relationship with two brothers. It's like like the music, the music,
Speaker 1: the music comes later. You know the fact that you
Speaker 1: can reach and pull your brother up with you, and
Speaker 1: and and walk. That same walk to me is more
Speaker 1: than the money, more than a deal, more than music,
Speaker 1: Like I funk with X right now because he's spiritually
Speaker 1: and mentally ready. He's always been lyrically ready. If you're
Speaker 1: not spiritually and mentally ready to go out to the world,
Speaker 1: and it's a waste, it's a waste of time. Everybody
Speaker 1: can want the return of him, but he got to
Speaker 1: want to return for himself. But it's like, it's like
Speaker 1: you're just saying because like everybody, you know, we see
Speaker 1: you on the Graham and we have about luxurious life,
Speaker 1: like you don't really have have to do a DMX album.
Speaker 1: So what really drives you? I think I do. I
Speaker 1: think I do that because like money doesn't define you
Speaker 1: or your lifestyle. It's like you know, when when you
Speaker 1: go back and you look at the things that really
Speaker 1: makes sense. It's brotherhood. You know. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of rich billionaires and I call him poor kings. They
Speaker 1: got big boats, hookers on them, no family, no nothing.
Speaker 1: Is that really living life happy at all? They're not happy.
Speaker 1: I don't care about your money. Like I never even
Speaker 1: did music for money. I did music for a feeling,
Speaker 1: for an expression, for an outlet that I couldn't express
Speaker 1: in an academic way. You know that I figured out
Speaker 1: how to do in a creative way, you know, and
Speaker 1: and I never and and I understood. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: you know, this kid that's being quiet in class is
Speaker 1: smarter than all of us. You understanding. We just gotta
Speaker 1: give that person a chance to identify that. You know,
Speaker 1: X has a long history of a lot of different
Speaker 1: things that a lot of people are gonna understand in
Speaker 1: this album. And you understand, like why he's who he is.
Speaker 1: There's a reason from that, from birth, from the way
Speaker 1: he was treated, from the way he was handled, from
Speaker 1: the way he was delivered. That's the reason why X
Speaker 1: sing like the way he is. It's not because he's
Speaker 1: just uh portray in a certain style. People like to say, Yo,
Speaker 1: EX is the closest thing to Pope. I said, X
Speaker 1: is the closest thing to nobody. Nobody. Yeah, because many
Speaker 1: million in the bank, right and then abandoned billings with
Speaker 1: with with candles where we had to find out gave
Speaker 1: his money away. He didn't blow his money. He gave
Speaker 1: his money away to homeless people. I see this man
Speaker 1: take shoes off his feet, sit down like this and
Speaker 1: people in this room singing this. Out of this man,
Speaker 1: I can't leave that stranded. Now, let's make some noise
Speaker 1: to that guy there. Party shot time. Are we ready
Speaker 1: for that? You know, put Paul some ice in my
Speaker 1: check because you don't need arts, man, you need mccardi.
Speaker 1: As the new year is people, let me tell you
Speaker 1: something about the mccardi eight in three and three. You know,
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta activation called no commissions and no
Speaker 1: commissions for the artists, for the artists. People. We give
Speaker 1: a hundred percent back to the artists of what they said.
Speaker 1: And let me give you a number. In the last
Speaker 1: three shows, we gave back to the artists three million dollars.
Speaker 1: So that's why we're gonna take this RICCARDI shot, you
Speaker 1: understand for giving back to the artists and the people
Speaker 1: in their pocket chairs to that. Let's black gonna lie
Speaker 1: shout to ko. It tastes like Puerto Rico. Remember Puerto Rico, Cuba.
Speaker 1: Remember we come on man. I told him every party,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't believe me when we first met. I believe you.
Speaker 1: I've been believing you. I can't I can't believe that
Speaker 1: I'm sending in front of my brother and at this table,
Speaker 1: all this fucking shows me and mom wata here we
Speaker 1: celebrate hip hop man And one of the craziest beasts
Speaker 1: of all time to me was Jigga, what's my mother?
Speaker 1: I can't curse on this show. Whatever you're going to
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, but listen. When I heard that,
Speaker 1: I want to say, I thought you played it for
Speaker 1: me once and it said Nori. But I'm bugging right,
Speaker 1: I'm bugging but in my mind drunk face. But yo, dad,
Speaker 1: do you remember Calfe? Calfe? I remember the first like
Speaker 1: it came out. Flex had dropped it. Boom right, Flex
Speaker 1: had it, and this is this is this time if
Speaker 1: flex player record with New York City should go back
Speaker 1: to what flex player record that right now? But let
Speaker 1: me just say something. He played it. We ain't never
Speaker 1: heard it. Flex played it, and it was like the
Speaker 1: whole cit knew the record already, didn't dropped it. At
Speaker 1: seven o'clock we went to the club everywhere like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we knew little you know what I'm saying the hook,
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I never record close. But the
Speaker 1: regular original record was Jada what it wasn't he ja?
Speaker 1: And he didn't want it. He didn't want it. It
Speaker 1: came out and we got into some words. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Jada, Yo, did you have to drop a verse
Speaker 1: on Yeah? I feel like you want to finish that stay.
Speaker 1: He didn't drop a verse on that. But you know what,
Speaker 1: that's what I shout out to Jada for giving back
Speaker 1: those clothes to the homeless. When I get back to
Speaker 1: New York, they're gonna give out like and even everybody
Speaker 1: and that all this stuff that you got in your closet,
Speaker 1: pull up the truck. Like, I shout to Jada for
Speaker 1: that initiatives for that. Jada had Jigga first. That's what
Speaker 1: it was. I think you played me, Jada. I think
Speaker 1: that's what it was. And you know most of my records, damn,
Speaker 1: most of my records, when they come out, they're not
Speaker 1: who they were for, right, Like bringing him out was
Speaker 1: when Beanie Ce who got out of jail. Oh right,
Speaker 1: make sense, you know what I'm saying. Sense? But touch
Speaker 1: it was for Eve I know. I heard Buster told
Speaker 1: me that story. He doesn't touch it was for Eve
Speaker 1: Dn Max didn't like stop dry, you know what I'm saying. Like, so,
Speaker 1: you know, none of my records really went to the
Speaker 1: people that But do you know the impact of that,
Speaker 1: what it did to the city. Yeah, because that was
Speaker 1: like that was it. It was like Swiss is it
Speaker 1: if you ain't got a Swiss beat? Like for real?
Speaker 1: Like it was like at that moment, and I trust me,
Speaker 1: I want to claim it because I worked through them
Speaker 1: earlier time. You know what I'm saying, I want to
Speaker 1: come but I remember that record was just saying like
Speaker 1: Nori discovered me in the Neptune, not just playing around
Speaker 1: we under state right, thank you Swiss say that like
Speaker 1: I was, I was producing other people, but Nor was
Speaker 1: spreading the word about who I was in a way
Speaker 1: I never I never, I've never seen an artist at
Speaker 1: his level doing that for me. He was the first
Speaker 1: artist that people came back like, yo, Nor, he said,
Speaker 1: we should be in the studio with you know who
Speaker 1: we're doing. I'm like, he was like, let me just
Speaker 1: tell you something about that now, let me let me
Speaker 1: just go back to bagging him because he was like
Speaker 1: eighteen seventeen. Because I'm thirty nine seventeen, I'm thirty eight, okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, so I don't even know that close. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm thirty nine yea. I looked and it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, but everybody thought I was older anyway.
Speaker 1: So this Nika paid me nothing. Now we're gonna get
Speaker 1: in the band from TV for nothing but fire like
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about that's you know, I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get into a story. It's gonna sound crazy, but I
Speaker 1: developed what what? Because think about NA style at that time.
Speaker 1: He was cool. Think about Prodigy style at the time.
Speaker 1: He was cool, Havoc Stile cool, cap Home, my own partner.
Speaker 1: They were cool. And I was like, I'm not really cool,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I'm cool, but I'm not like I'm
Speaker 1: like a hyper guy. Makes sense, I'm developed what what?
Speaker 1: So I needed somebody to compliment that with the energy,
Speaker 1: So I went there. We don't know. Bad from TV
Speaker 1: was original record. It was supposed to be me and Nature,
Speaker 1: remember and Nature? I mean I had later verse and
Speaker 1: Nature couldn't get with the with the he had like
Speaker 1: wrote to some other song and he couldn't write the verse.
Speaker 1: So is he on it? No? No, No, he's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. This is the It wasn't Bad from TV?
Speaker 1: Was someone? Then? Yeah, this is unless you're lady. This
Speaker 1: is all you and then like the last hour, I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, Nate, I can't just stay here. He
Speaker 1: was like, let me try another beat and he was
Speaker 1: doing band from TV. And from that moment on, I
Speaker 1: never seen a person writ over so fast. Nature wrote
Speaker 1: that ship, didn't he droped him off? That ship was
Speaker 1: electric Like I'm like, and I hunt you murder. I
Speaker 1: was mad at all of them because they didn't even
Speaker 1: let the beat play. It was they to the introd like,
Speaker 1: what the bad TV? The beach I heard from Bad
Speaker 1: from TV is just the intro. I'm not gonna let
Speaker 1: the beat play like this is it right? I just
Speaker 1: got looped and then the intro got loop that's bad
Speaker 1: from TV. It was a beat that came after that.
Speaker 1: Why you understand? Like I never understand. I hurt my heart.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you how I remember it? Right. That's
Speaker 1: funny because I figured let me finish. I had already
Speaker 1: labor the verse for Nature on a different Swiss beat,
Speaker 1: so I had called Pun just to hang out, like
Speaker 1: he'll come hang out because I never asked to get
Speaker 1: it on prorectly, by the way, but we'll get to that, right,
Speaker 1: So I just called him just to hang out. What's up.
Speaker 1: I an't know, so I called him just to hang out.
Speaker 1: So when Nature came around to the beat, we Swiss
Speaker 1: wish it later wrote to it real fast punished in
Speaker 1: the coup the lounge, She's like, I'm going to use
Speaker 1: your bath the lounge and on the couch with an
Speaker 1: oozing next. Yeah, there's that ned beginning. That's why they
Speaker 1: too lazy first. So this Nature for his lads Verse
Speaker 1: pun winning and snuck in and not the spartest guy
Speaker 1: in the world. He just kept looking at me when
Speaker 1: the race that I'm like, I'm not called that's some
Speaker 1: pieces of punny body that thing and who's next? Pun
Speaker 1: Cam Cam didn't call that? Style? No cam did come
Speaker 1: that night. I got Ja Styles, Jayda Style. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: came then and I got The only people I didn't
Speaker 1: get was a Um, Jada and Style. I play that
Speaker 1: song again. That that that that was so do you
Speaker 1: remember what that record did to the tunnel? It was
Speaker 1: it was dangerous, like you know, you know I had
Speaker 1: a raising in the mouth game order protection from you
Speaker 1: from the tunnel because of the band from TV. Seriously,
Speaker 1: now he was protection. You got order of protection. The
Speaker 1: tunnel took an order of protection. No, you don't understand.
Speaker 1: That's how crazy it was. Blown that raising game was
Speaker 1: man from TV hit I was, I was. I was
Speaker 1: with the Bronx at that time. And then and it
Speaker 1: was dancing. You know, it was dancing and listen pun
Speaker 1: me and whoa, whoa, that's fun. Like now, what was
Speaker 1: the closest memories of pluning just being on that couch
Speaker 1: and Sony Studio was an actual Lady Electric Lady Mine's
Speaker 1: last one was it was in Sony Studios in the
Speaker 1: East studio where it was because I remember he was
Speaker 1: the only person I would let use it because it
Speaker 1: was easy to get to. You own Sony studio at
Speaker 1: one time. That was that they built me a room
Speaker 1: like you know they it was good. You had the
Speaker 1: room under the ground. That was room. That was the room.
Speaker 1: That was That was the jake good. That was Swiss kidnap.
Speaker 1: You won't do it. When you came down stairs, I
Speaker 1: cast stairs. I put the voodoo on you. You walk in.
Speaker 1: Stephen said, you had the dest on you coming that
Speaker 1: the room. I was telling you the track. So I
Speaker 1: was charging you crazy money and you get happy with
Speaker 1: a crazy head. That was Attraction three. That wasn't the track.
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you, man, I'm just so
Speaker 1: proud of you. I've seen you from the beginning. I
Speaker 1: see now. This is a question I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you because, like you said, your uncle's was these guys,
Speaker 1: it's in the streets, they started this music business. How
Speaker 1: was your first approach coming to them and saying, you
Speaker 1: know what I want to I'm gonna produce. So well
Speaker 1: it did. I didn't come to them. They came to
Speaker 1: me because they was doing something they wanted. They were
Speaker 1: doing something positive and they knew I was doing music,
Speaker 1: and it was like, yo. My aunt was like, your
Speaker 1: uncles are starting this positive movement called rough Riders, and
Speaker 1: you should come up for the summer and and be
Speaker 1: a part of it. And I went up that summer
Speaker 1: and never went back to act and I went back
Speaker 1: to Atlanta. From that point before it was a record
Speaker 1: like music movement. This is now. This this is when
Speaker 1: it was becoming a label. And my aunt Chavan was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know you're the only one in the family taking
Speaker 1: music serious. You should come up for the summer and
Speaker 1: see what it is about. I went up for that
Speaker 1: summer that as a rose over. I'm still I'm to
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still moving off that plane ticket from
Speaker 1: New York from to New York right now, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, you know, like at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, we all got opportunities, we all got chances,
Speaker 1: we all got chances, we all got opportunities. It's what
Speaker 1: we do with it. You understand, like we could take
Speaker 1: opportunities for granted, or we can understand that it's a
Speaker 1: once in a lifetime chance to be great. Are you
Speaker 1: willing to take that chance? Are you willing to go
Speaker 1: that far? I was sleeping on floors. I have bruises
Speaker 1: on my face, my shoulders, my elbows because I was
Speaker 1: down hungry to get to where I'm at today. And
Speaker 1: I still work like I have nothing today. You know,
Speaker 1: it's still like I've been at meetings since nine am,
Speaker 1: which is the reason why I got my shades on
Speaker 1: and another business. I'm in Harvard Business School right now,
Speaker 1: accelerating my craft and accelrating, you know, my mental capacity
Speaker 1: because you know this, this all came to me early.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know what I was doing back then.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm just starting now because i know
Speaker 1: what I'm doing now, So I gave y'all three and
Speaker 1: fifty million records. So we're for not knowing what I'm doing,
Speaker 1: what you imagine when I'm ready to do right now?
Speaker 1: And I tell people like sky is not the limits
Speaker 1: of just a view, and you know, the thing is
Speaker 1: like the hood. We always want excuses of like why
Speaker 1: are we not in position? They got me like this,
Speaker 1: they got me like that, and they want me like this.
Speaker 1: Don't like man, figure it out. That same person complaining
Speaker 1: about something didn't look for a job that day, didn't
Speaker 1: pick up a book that day, didn't look for no
Speaker 1: inspiration that day. They want to sit on that stew
Speaker 1: like the pot of goal on falling their lap. And
Speaker 1: I'm not messing with none of those type of people.
Speaker 1: Anybody that's around me. They better have vision, they better
Speaker 1: have a goal. And it's not just to lean on
Speaker 1: me because I'm not. I'm not. We're not doing I'm
Speaker 1: a grown ass man. You're grown man, You're healthy, Get
Speaker 1: out there and feed your family on your own. I
Speaker 1: also see you a Cassidy, y'all, y'all back together. That
Speaker 1: is dope that well, you know, I put Cassidy on
Speaker 1: punishment for a little bit because you know, I come
Speaker 1: from a place where this protocol and you know, there's
Speaker 1: consequences and there's different things that you know, uh, you
Speaker 1: can fly and can't fly. You know, I don't act
Speaker 1: tough in this music thing. I never came off as
Speaker 1: a threat, um, but but we could be a serious problem.
Speaker 1: You understand. I'm in here with you. I'm in here
Speaker 1: with my Bocardi family. Likely you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not in here with a bunch of goons, a
Speaker 1: bunch of nothing. Like. I'm comfortable on my skin, and
Speaker 1: I come with great energy. I come with positive intentions.
Speaker 1: I don't come in here to fund on nobody's stunning
Speaker 1: on nobody. I'm gonna here dressed just like everybody in here,
Speaker 1: because like you know what we all hat, we respect
Speaker 1: that thing. I caught the Haitian hat right little, right now,
Speaker 1: a little, I say, you know what I'm saying, shout
Speaker 1: out to my Haitian crowd. Went out there to Haiti.
Speaker 1: You know, I did a great initiative there. I did
Speaker 1: the biggest event there for free for the people. Three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand people showed up, and I noticed didn't make
Speaker 1: the news, but there wasn't one stabbing, one shooting, one fight,
Speaker 1: all up and I just hate that that didn't make
Speaker 1: the news. One person was a drink chance. Yeah about say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie straight. It's good man, a cold
Speaker 1: shot guy. Okay, let's get some ship. Okay, let's get
Speaker 1: somebod it's on his business day. That is good. Hit
Speaker 1: me later, you know. But like for me, one thing
Speaker 1: about Baccarti is like, you know, running all three hundred
Speaker 1: brands in the company as the global creative director, I'm
Speaker 1: not paying nobody to hold up no bottles. I don't
Speaker 1: even like that fire culture. You know, no disrespect to
Speaker 1: no other brand. Everybody got to do it how they
Speaker 1: do it. But one thing that we're doing at Baccarti
Speaker 1: is we're investing directly into the people, buy the artists,
Speaker 1: for the artists, with the people. You know. The fact
Speaker 1: that we can say in three shows we gave back
Speaker 1: three million dollars. That's like, that's for real papers difference,
Speaker 1: Like let's make a difference paper, the fact that we're interacting.
Speaker 1: And but like you know, this is an educational platform
Speaker 1: as well, and I never thought that, excuse me, the
Speaker 1: creatives and a brand can mixed together. Because they're two
Speaker 1: selfish things. The artists want to be selfish on that
Speaker 1: side and the brand want to be selfish on that side.
Speaker 1: But the thing that we created with my partnership with
Speaker 1: Riccardia is equal agenda of just doing great things and
Speaker 1: this artists bass so like like this, like I mean
Speaker 1: like paintings, like the things like that, and No Commission
Speaker 1: is global. You know we just last year London, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got Berlin this year due by you know, we're
Speaker 1: going to l A. You know, we're coming back to Miami.
Speaker 1: You know, we're looking at Shanghai. You know this this
Speaker 1: is this is a global tribute to let me ask
Speaker 1: you something, right, if I want to buy art there
Speaker 1: we go, how do how do I go about buying art?
Speaker 1: Call that your brother? Like but I'm just saying to
Speaker 1: like the people, not not me per se, but but
Speaker 1: me per se. But not now, but like like like
Speaker 1: let's bo dude wants to invest into some art. What
Speaker 1: what should he look for? What he's doing first? And
Speaker 1: almost you know a lot of people think that art
Speaker 1: is just for rich people. And that's why No Commissions
Speaker 1: is great because we created the entry point. You know,
Speaker 1: there was people that I was able to come to
Speaker 1: no commissions and get things for a couple of hundred
Speaker 1: dollars a couple of thousands, or a couple of hundred thousands.
Speaker 1: You understanding, so that you know, we created the entry point,
Speaker 1: so you know the miscommunication with artists. How am I
Speaker 1: part of that? If I go in the gallery and
Speaker 1: everything is twenty thousand, but I got four thousand. So
Speaker 1: being that I don't got that twenty thousand, you don't
Speaker 1: want to talk to me. I can't be a part
Speaker 1: of this. I don't like that story. So we created
Speaker 1: a new story to where you could be living with
Speaker 1: your mother and participating no commissions. You can be on
Speaker 1: your way up and just trying to figure it out
Speaker 1: and participate. You can be the biggest of the biggest
Speaker 1: and participate. And the key thing is the entry point
Speaker 1: for the millennials because art is something that saved people lives.
Speaker 1: Art is a different type of communication. You understand, Like
Speaker 1: everybody can't communicate on an academic level, but you might
Speaker 1: have that person right there that can paint something so amazing,
Speaker 1: that can be a videographer, a photographer, you know, and
Speaker 1: just create. Some of them bring something extra to the
Speaker 1: world and that's the platform that I built that made
Speaker 1: me very dangerous to the art business and the galleries
Speaker 1: and different things like that. Because I created the entry point,
Speaker 1: I took away the stigmatism of So you're saying, because
Speaker 1: I remember Kanye because sort of saying like, but he
Speaker 1: was trying to um, you know, migrate from being like
Speaker 1: just the artist to like to this colden field. Like
Speaker 1: he felt like he wasn't being respected. You're saying, that's
Speaker 1: the opposite with you when you go into the art field,
Speaker 1: because you're just basically given. You know, when you look
Speaker 1: at art and artists. We come from a industry called
Speaker 1: music art, which is art, and we just bring it
Speaker 1: down to the basic levels. When everybody deal with us,
Speaker 1: no out of how good the deal seems, there's always
Speaker 1: somebody hand in our pockets. Left right backside, there's a
Speaker 1: hand in our pockets. So we might feel that we
Speaker 1: have the freedom. You know, in Harvard, the professor said,
Speaker 1: the illness I was like, I couldn't believe that the
Speaker 1: way would being down the way that are the industry
Speaker 1: is being dealt with. They was actually taught to do that,
Speaker 1: the professor said, if you want them to work harder,
Speaker 1: make them feel like they owned something. I was like, hmmm.
Speaker 1: He said, example, you know you have two dollars, give
Speaker 1: him one dollar. But you know you've got two dollars
Speaker 1: in your budget. Give him one dollar first, he only
Speaker 1: one dollar. Do your job. Let him work for a week.
Speaker 1: After that week, you walk up to him. He's walking
Speaker 1: in the yard or wherever he's walking. You walk up
Speaker 1: and say, man, and do on a great job. He
Speaker 1: goes another dollar what he already owned. I was supposed
Speaker 1: to be giving down the second dollar was in the budget.
Speaker 1: But what are you going to do after the boss
Speaker 1: tell you you was on your a game? Hey, going
Speaker 1: another dollar? What's harder? You're gonna be like, Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: on my grind, I'm on my I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1: The boss came up to me, he told me, I
Speaker 1: M might running this company, So you're gonna go harder
Speaker 1: just because the way that was done. And I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: that sounds like the label deal. Give them a label,
Speaker 1: bringing the artists cheaper, make them feel like they own something,
Speaker 1: because if you own something, you're gonna say, I got
Speaker 1: this artist here, but he can't charge me too much
Speaker 1: because I'm a partner in this and this is my label.
Speaker 1: But are you a partner? Do you have veto rights?
Speaker 1: Are you on the board meetings? Are you really a
Speaker 1: part of this industry? No? The funk out of here?
Speaker 1: Those are faith? Those are those are facts? Smoking mirrors? Nick,
Speaker 1: tell me a person that had a label did have
Speaker 1: been to a major label board meeting? Nothing a board meeting.
Speaker 1: Then we're talking about ownership. When you're talking about that,
Speaker 1: are you saying like the rocket Fellers that those type
Speaker 1: of the talking about everybody imprint deals. I'm talking about everybody.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. You know, if you were a universal
Speaker 1: all you had the board meeting out of a VINDI
Speaker 1: with the distributors, the board meetings today, the board meeting
Speaker 1: and people that that's who' agree with this, say, I
Speaker 1: are you a part of those meetings. I'm a part
Speaker 1: of those meetings now, so I know how they go.
Speaker 1: But if we're not a part of those meetings and
Speaker 1: the ownership doesn't mean anything, it's a smoking mirror. Make
Speaker 1: them feel like they owned something in their work. Harder
Speaker 1: you understand. I don't why why no musicians have their
Speaker 1: own yachts or they own seven fifty sevens. And then
Speaker 1: you look at other industries of people that's doing five
Speaker 1: of the work that they're doing, because this business is
Speaker 1: not set up for artists to win. So you have
Speaker 1: to understand when it's your time to get off the
Speaker 1: titty and go live your own dream. Like we want
Speaker 1: to be pacified and want to be rewarded at the
Speaker 1: same time, it doesn't work like that. I retired from
Speaker 1: music when I made Onto the Next One. I wrote
Speaker 1: that song as my retirement song, which was my last Grammy,
Speaker 1: because I was mentally onto the next platform were the easier,
Speaker 1: goddamn it continue? And I just think that we got
Speaker 1: to be mentally ready to make any step that we
Speaker 1: feel as life changing to ourselves without I don't care
Speaker 1: about the fair I don't care about the politics because like, look, man,
Speaker 1: life was full of politics. Look who our president is.
Speaker 1: Look what we're dealing with right now. But the truth
Speaker 1: of the matter is left. Actually we had to deal
Speaker 1: with someone with every president since Reagan, like since Reaganamics
Speaker 1: like this ain't nothing new. This ain't nothing but the
Speaker 1: recycling of of the system. But how you treat your
Speaker 1: own system mentally and spiritually is on you. We prepare
Speaker 1: for any war, That's why we still around even talk
Speaker 1: about this ship we've been was supposed to be going.
Speaker 1: Everybody in this room, I understand you think. You think
Speaker 1: the digital age the level of the playing field as
Speaker 1: far as you're talking about that just didn't general just artists,
Speaker 1: the labels and just straight to to consumer. Well, Um,
Speaker 1: the reason why I like the digital aspect of of
Speaker 1: of where we at today is because it gives the
Speaker 1: independent life life and before we was trapped into one
Speaker 1: way or nothing. You know, now if you really got
Speaker 1: your hustle on, like my brother and you guys here,
Speaker 1: you can go viral and start something. I can imagine
Speaker 1: if this forum that we're on right now didn't exist.
Speaker 1: Let me kind of stop you for one second because
Speaker 1: I understand exactly where you're going. But if you're older artists,
Speaker 1: I'm with, just music does the streaming level to playing field?
Speaker 1: Because just think about it, Like, when you're a new artist,
Speaker 1: you can you can you can drop a record and
Speaker 1: not pay for radio, not pay for nothing. And the
Speaker 1: new artist buzz is going to get people to play
Speaker 1: a record because they don't want to be late on
Speaker 1: the new ship. But when your artists have been around
Speaker 1: for fifteen twenty years and you drop something, you might
Speaker 1: not get the same you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: does streaming, like on the radio, what I'm saying, to
Speaker 1: the streaming level the playing field or does it flatline it?
Speaker 1: You know that depends on the artists straight up. You
Speaker 1: understand a lot of artists and not real with themselves.
Speaker 1: You understand they're gonna put something out that's just not
Speaker 1: that time to put what they're putting out. So the
Speaker 1: results that they're getting out is what it is. I
Speaker 1: don't care who you are, where are you from. You
Speaker 1: got a hot show that's popping. It's on right decisions.
Speaker 1: If you artists, no matter who you are, if you've
Speaker 1: got that record and you've got that right direction, you
Speaker 1: don't have to do no work. But his song requires
Speaker 1: no work. It goes ordentically, and the people feel that,
Speaker 1: and that resurgence of that spreads. But if you're disgrunted
Speaker 1: and jealous and living in a time that we know
Speaker 1: you're not in, and you're not gauging your views and
Speaker 1: and your vibes are right, and you don't get the
Speaker 1: results you want, who fault is that yours? Not the people,
Speaker 1: because the people just want to have fun they're not
Speaker 1: even caring who's saying what and what it could be.
Speaker 1: Whoever rested right now as long as who saying both
Speaker 1: could put out a song with the right dancing, the
Speaker 1: right beat and it could go that's all. So nobody
Speaker 1: had an ease sign of drink champion in the case
Speaker 1: you're thinking about that, you know that. I think. I
Speaker 1: think also the definition of a hit record is changing
Speaker 1: because there's there's artists that you will never you might
Speaker 1: not even know they have successful careers because they're going
Speaker 1: to direct the consumer because right now, like right you
Speaker 1: know you've worked with the greats eminem jay z, dmx Nory,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't even like Kanye Kanye, you know so,
Speaker 1: And now a new guy comes on your beat, boys
Speaker 1: the way that that was or that my own stuff.
Speaker 1: But now guy, you know, somebody calls you your beat.
Speaker 1: He like it was a bit of that aversion. But
Speaker 1: he's killing it. But you you don't even know what
Speaker 1: he's said. How the funk is he killing him? You
Speaker 1: can't understand what he's killing, what this thing is out
Speaker 1: there that's killing it. I don't understand what they're saying,
Speaker 1: But to me, they're still killing saying I dig something
Speaker 1: up away. I gotta tell you something. I gotta when
Speaker 1: you hear my record those people you're talking about, watch
Speaker 1: how I checked their passports at the dark and and
Speaker 1: it was a breath of fresh air because I witnessed
Speaker 1: that people are doing what they're doing because of a fad.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're hiding all of this talent because you
Speaker 1: think that's what they want to hear. I couldn't when
Speaker 1: you hear these verses clearly that you're gonna hear, I
Speaker 1: was like, Bro, do you mean you couldn't. This is
Speaker 1: the whole time you're going there's really talented people in
Speaker 1: that space of what we feel that's not talent. I've
Speaker 1: witnessed it, and you're gonna witness it too very soon.
Speaker 1: You don't be like that's who, Yeah, that's him, and
Speaker 1: that's who, Yeah, that's him too. Because I just wanted
Speaker 1: to challenge people to do something different, because when they're
Speaker 1: applying their life is great. But the challenge that I'm
Speaker 1: I want to challenge them to apply just an atmosphere
Speaker 1: is differently. I don't want what you have already. I
Speaker 1: did you to do this, And when I dared them
Speaker 1: to do that hunting points on the boards. You know
Speaker 1: how long? You know how much time I spent in Jamaica.
Speaker 1: I just feel like, you know how much. I just
Speaker 1: don't need it, Like I got five kids, Bro, when
Speaker 1: I drink that because we're celebrating you tonight, tonight, got
Speaker 1: twenty years work. We're head come on when you do
Speaker 1: the what the fucker? Yeah? I always we got to
Speaker 1: deal with Tiger on what we've done because we go
Speaker 1: to check our own joint is they do listen to
Speaker 1: what we do. It's because you know what, I know,
Speaker 1: I got to change McCarty. Right now, we're gonna dance
Speaker 1: act and that's not competition, and no one, no it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not. It's not. It's nobody's calling. But I know
Speaker 1: it's you'd be tig of bone in this thing out
Speaker 1: in here because it's a beautiful thing. How because a
Speaker 1: level spell back was this level. You gotta balance. It's
Speaker 1: we're kind of here, you go, Bud, where's the blog check?
Speaker 1: I gotta bring the Google. I'm gonna take that pick
Speaker 1: up the veggie. I always say my jacket for the
Speaker 1: dance's hot gets hot if you ain't get the locks
Speaker 1: out and get the locks out right now? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the locks out? Fine? Hold on, I mean Jada kiss, shoot,
Speaker 1: uncousine ahead, don't locks another locks that coming? But because
Speaker 1: I heard when you said the Lost album came out
Speaker 1: on rock Nation, you was cool with it. You just
Speaker 1: didn't want to let your copy. You just didn't want
Speaker 1: to see them throwing up the rocks side. I got
Speaker 1: a lot of trouble for that. Why what happened? You know?
Speaker 1: I was? I was no, no, no, I was, honestly,
Speaker 1: with all due respects, I was. I was wrong. I
Speaker 1: was wrong for saying that um on a national broadcast
Speaker 1: about my about my brother's and why would you say that? No?
Speaker 1: I was, I was a little I was talking a
Speaker 1: little reckless. But where did I was on Shade for five?
Speaker 1: From Shade for Let's toast coming into Yeah, take off
Speaker 1: your glasses for that. I don't know just what happened
Speaker 1: to the eight because god damn, let I didn't I
Speaker 1: got I got a perfect in Miami tast with I
Speaker 1: don't know if I like your in Miami and you
Speaker 1: look good, bro yo. He went to Candle remember the
Speaker 1: video shoot you can't office and Candle my studio first?
Speaker 1: What was it? What was it set it up? Set
Speaker 1: it up up? Yeah? But when Nori hit this new
Speaker 1: thing I made for him, Paul who I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: Goddamn still so so yeah, I got in trouble. Huh
Speaker 1: style speak called me because you know he's the savage
Speaker 1: of the group. Don't never talk her name like that.
Speaker 1: Wait when you said damn, why would you like yo
Speaker 1: yo up? In my mind he was up there like
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I felt like I just violated myself.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, continued Swiss stud Belder. Because I was as
Speaker 1: a man, I can admit when I'm wrong, and out
Speaker 1: of twenty some years with the locks, it was the
Speaker 1: first time I was wrong. I was. I spoke about
Speaker 1: I spoke about the incident on Shape four five. I
Speaker 1: spoke about what I spoke about, how I felt about
Speaker 1: kissed on up the rock sign and why you saw
Speaker 1: kiss old the rocket sign. Oh, I never knew that.
Speaker 1: I've seen him throw it up. It's this, it's public information.
Speaker 1: And the reason and the reason why I had a
Speaker 1: problem with it was because you know, I was around
Speaker 1: for I was around for everything, and I knew that
Speaker 1: how hard it was to fight for it who we had,
Speaker 1: and I knew that my great friend Jay would never
Speaker 1: thought a rough right of sign of no matter what
Speaker 1: deal he would ever do, because early on, just because
Speaker 1: like you know, you know, um Mom was in them
Speaker 1: put a lot of time into changing people's lives. They
Speaker 1: put a lot of times and the changing people's lives,
Speaker 1: and they put their lives on the line for changing
Speaker 1: people's lives. So naturally, I'm gonna be emotional when I
Speaker 1: see something that's other than where it all comes from, naturally.
Speaker 1: So naturally how overreacted when the question was brought up
Speaker 1: to me? I was like, what was the question? Acts
Speaker 1: of here? Where you think about the locks with um
Speaker 1: with Rocket Feller, And I said, I think that it's
Speaker 1: a great deal, which I do because they work hard
Speaker 1: to even have this this type of outlet, and then
Speaker 1: like they doing, what's up? Mr Lee, You've got no control.
Speaker 1: That's not even Mr Lee, that's Mr Chi. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But if they go to their masters,
Speaker 1: because from what I hear, they go, they worked hard
Speaker 1: to even be able to put out that type of
Speaker 1: album in two thousands sixteen slash seventeen, And I was
Speaker 1: I was wrong for expressing that on that public outlet.
Speaker 1: Even though I called a couple of group members a
Speaker 1: couple of times. If I couldn't reach them, I should
Speaker 1: have dead it it. But I was a little nice,
Speaker 1: like I am. Now we got through. We ain't but
Speaker 1: I'm the most honest one. I'm nice, which this is
Speaker 1: what it is. And TV told me you have wall
Speaker 1: paint from your face when you try to get averse
Speaker 1: from you, because I don't really be on that other
Speaker 1: ship already. You know, I'm not scared to express it.
Speaker 1: I'm into the art life, so sometimes I paint my
Speaker 1: face and sometimes it's those shades on. Just be on
Speaker 1: my cool league. You know, we see that had I
Speaker 1: got on SAP, I said, because you worked it out.
Speaker 1: But of course we worked it out because you know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the styles had every
Speaker 1: right to call me and be on that vibe. And
Speaker 1: I listened to him. I was in in the airport
Speaker 1: in Shanghai and he texts me the file's message them.
Speaker 1: I was laughing, they're not making a joke because it's
Speaker 1: something serious. And I listened to what he said. He
Speaker 1: had good points. And as a man, anybody watching this,
Speaker 1: as a man, if you're in the wrong, you gotta
Speaker 1: take that charge. Take that charge, apologize I was wrong.
Speaker 1: I won't do that again. My bad. You know a
Speaker 1: lot of the egos to kill him. A lot of
Speaker 1: people let the ego mislead them in life. I know
Speaker 1: that I could never go to war with the Locks,
Speaker 1: even though their first name was the Warlocks. Right, those
Speaker 1: those are my brothers. We're never going to have a
Speaker 1: confrontation for the industry to sit. I can watch your
Speaker 1: legacy that we worked hard for burn because of some
Speaker 1: small time things. We really was in these streets for real,
Speaker 1: I love nothing. We are the streets was the first
Speaker 1: put my life. It just turned seventeen. I know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's mix Loyd for goddamn birthday. You got to put
Speaker 1: your head for He violated me, don't you It was
Speaker 1: It was seven seconds later I said, that's like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm so used to it shot to styles
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Speaker 1: Then ask some real questions. Let's get into some real
Speaker 1: like the question. Whatever we want to do. Let's go on. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm here to make the ratings go up. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: they talk. So when you and Kanye West battle on
Speaker 1: stage so much, Jam, I love that moment. It described
Speaker 1: that moment, was that put together? What was that like?
Speaker 1: Spirit a moment you and Kanye. This is the craziest
Speaker 1: nigger in life, in in his life, but this before
Speaker 1: he got crazy. He was like saying, at this time,
Speaker 1: I respect Kanye for taking that battle because you know, um,
Speaker 1: a lot of producers I asked turned down that Tom Tom.
Speaker 1: So you're saying this was your whole idea. Yeah, in
Speaker 1: New York City, I was leading Summer Jam. Of course
Speaker 1: we orchestrated this. Never do this. I've never knew this
Speaker 1: been you've been, You've asked people to do this before
Speaker 1: time is running out because we don't have time. We
Speaker 1: just started. We just we just got so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make this go. No that shout ABLECARDI Now I got
Speaker 1: my cup right here. This iscarty eight great right here too,
Speaker 1: let's do shots. I don't do like Drenking let us man,
Speaker 1: what does that leave bro like? I mean, all right,
Speaker 1: that Carty is double enough? So okay, So you had
Speaker 1: this idea for a producer, you know, because when I
Speaker 1: look at Summer Jam, I noticed that a lot of
Speaker 1: the performing artists musically got to shine, and the producers
Speaker 1: was always behind those big hit records. That these artists
Speaker 1: was able to go on stage and do their thing too.
Speaker 1: So I said, you know what, let's play how muche
Speaker 1: to the producers and Summer Jam is is it's very controversial.
Speaker 1: So I said, you know what, Let's make it a
Speaker 1: battle where I'm talking ship and then whoever come out
Speaker 1: and challenged me to me talking ship with their greatest
Speaker 1: couple of hits? And I give him my greatest couple
Speaker 1: of hits. And we gave the people a show that
Speaker 1: was respectable and and and they paid how much to producing?
Speaker 1: Everybody turned down the request except for Kanye, And I
Speaker 1: give him no names that you could say to turn
Speaker 1: it down. Who else would you name him? The premier
Speaker 1: turn down. I'm not challenging the permission, dropping like he
Speaker 1: dropped that New York State of Mind one track. He's
Speaker 1: in there rock but but just just you know, you
Speaker 1: know you're gonna way too far, too far. He drive,
Speaker 1: reminisce with me, what the funk am I gonna do?
Speaker 1: Stop driving? Who said? Just just he reached out to
Speaker 1: Jeff Blaze, not not he didn't definitely Blazes time to
Speaker 1: I think I think Jeff Blaze could probably beat me
Speaker 1: today in the battle because I'm not really thinking about it.
Speaker 1: But if I thought about it, I'd probably give him
Speaker 1: a little bit of a run for his money. When
Speaker 1: you're saying battle, When you're saying battle, are you saying
Speaker 1: hits y'all? At that time it was hits right, So
Speaker 1: imagine he came with the crowd, helped me to read
Speaker 1: do like the whole street out. But I got something
Speaker 1: for that too. I got something for that. People gotta understand,
Speaker 1: Like I used to make everybody, what were we doing? Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: let's go say you something. It's good. It's good man,
Speaker 1: love love love. Yeah, I'm saying, Twain, got that fat.
Speaker 1: I need your Bott's number. Something come in here with
Speaker 1: its pretty boy ship. Yeah, the same moving in on us,
Speaker 1: tell you something. Twin was the star, one of the
Speaker 1: stars of this show. You know some fat I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened. My unfortunate accident happened. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about here to day. So it's and you know what,
Speaker 1: we are so proud to see twin head right now. Yo,
Speaker 1: somebody give Twin of Mike please and just let him
Speaker 1: give him a no no no yeah. Two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: Drake Chance family harm me. Thank you for the prayers.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, man, appreciate all the love, other support
Speaker 1: and prayers have been working because I'm getting better and
Speaker 1: I'm alive. I'm here. I could have been six ft
Speaker 1: under it, but I'm here and I can keep moving forward.
Speaker 1: And even though if I don't walk again, I'm still living.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I still hope. Man, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm I'm here, You're gonna walk here. Mother,
Speaker 1: I'm here. Are you crazy? A whole hands and and
Speaker 1: and and give a little blessings. We we thank you
Speaker 1: for Twin being here with us today on um and
Speaker 1: in life farm, in real farm. And we thank you
Speaker 1: for protecting him and guiding him and getting him to
Speaker 1: this level of being conscious, being loved. And we never
Speaker 1: forget all the prayers, all the deeds that has been
Speaker 1: done today and waking up this morning, it is just
Speaker 1: a plus and Amy pray. Amen. That's that was real
Speaker 1: ship right there, serious because that's that's twins off. That's
Speaker 1: our little brother, little brother. Motherfucker's my brother too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but listen, um, because we're very scared. We don't sure
Speaker 1: you want to stay right there. He's good, he's good.
Speaker 1: But you know, usually I asked you to take a
Speaker 1: shot because something but that I want to go. We
Speaker 1: love right now there, that's right, motherfucker. But okay, so
Speaker 1: now Swiss, I'm ready. What's up? So we're gonna take
Speaker 1: it because you was getting into the battles and you
Speaker 1: was talking about we gotta we gotta complete that store.
Speaker 1: So he said, we don't want to find out who
Speaker 1: he as he said, just blaze me who he asked.
Speaker 1: Timberland asked, okay, you know I battle any one of
Speaker 1: them today too. That's right work, you know, that's dance.
Speaker 1: So Kanye stepped up. Kanye stepped up to the plate.
Speaker 1: He was a game rob this moment. You know, she
Speaker 1: was like, Kanye, is this now? Definitely don't got blod here.
Speaker 1: Let's keep him the backpack on he had a backpack.
Speaker 1: The backpack backpack Kanye know, like, what was what was
Speaker 1: Jesus big Jesus piece uh Okay, Louis Vutan sneaker, Kanye
Speaker 1: is Jesus walks colors drop out nights before Jesus? Is
Speaker 1: it that time? He was hot Kanye Kyan Pepper, Kanye
Speaker 1: Kanye Kanye. But I respect that I gave him the
Speaker 1: concept and he was just like, all right, let's make
Speaker 1: it fresh. And the craziest part I was like he came.
Speaker 1: I told him my playlist, He told me his playlist.
Speaker 1: I kept my players and he changed his players. I
Speaker 1: was like, are you sure you don't want to because
Speaker 1: like I didn't. It wasn't about no big eyes a
Speaker 1: little us know, but what at what point changed his playlist?
Speaker 1: When I was showtime, there was showtime. I heard songs
Speaker 1: that that he didn't present. I was like, so, y'all
Speaker 1: both knew what songs y'all was gonna play. I told
Speaker 1: him I was. I never changed. I was gonna play
Speaker 1: because I just wanted to play what I was gonna play.
Speaker 1: And the songs that he picked before I thought was stronger,
Speaker 1: you know, because I didn't want it to be like, um,
Speaker 1: a big little youth thing I wanted. I wanted him
Speaker 1: to be great and I wanted me to be great,
Speaker 1: and he was great. But you know, I think the
Speaker 1: selection um that we first it was better, you know, right,
Speaker 1: because it's not like you know, me, me going on
Speaker 1: a summer jam stage and showing off on another person.
Speaker 1: Because that man is talented as a genius. You know,
Speaker 1: he a mass of his craft, just like Timberland, Dr
Speaker 1: Dre Pharrell just blaze. All the producers their massive, their
Speaker 1: own crafts. And the one thing I do miss about
Speaker 1: music is that you know, um, we all had different
Speaker 1: things to bring to the table. You know when you
Speaker 1: heard that sign it was a different sound totally not
Speaker 1: about a a bounce. We came. We felt like we
Speaker 1: we wanted to come with, you know. And there's a
Speaker 1: couple of new producers that's doing that and I respect
Speaker 1: them all. Like a signature sound. Yeah, there's a couple
Speaker 1: of producers on in it, and there's a couple of
Speaker 1: people that's taken advantage of the technology. But Swiss Beast
Speaker 1: is about to make an album right now. I'm asking
Speaker 1: that sh done and then and the label says we
Speaker 1: hire some new new dudes. Who is Swiss Beasts going
Speaker 1: high producer? Why I'm not scared of new dudes. I
Speaker 1: got new dudes on my team. I respect new dudes.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like when I say my bad,
Speaker 1: let me rephrase the question they're saying, go get some
Speaker 1: like the the producers that's trending now because it was
Speaker 1: who is Swiss gonna say? You know what I'm producing?
Speaker 1: You like? But if you're making an album, because you know,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, your artists too. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: there's a lot of new producers are like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not stuck in my past. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of producers get stuck in the pass and they don't
Speaker 1: really respect. Somebody need a goddamn fixed that. This is
Speaker 1: the smoking in the background, but my headphones don't block
Speaker 1: them out? Or who is who is? If they say, now,
Speaker 1: we said you you got three people? No, no, let's
Speaker 1: say five. So you've got five people to to to
Speaker 1: to pay other than you to finish your album right now?
Speaker 1: You gotta love you bad with names, bro, That's just
Speaker 1: I admit to it. I'm bad with names. I like
Speaker 1: I like metro Booman, you know, you can say the
Speaker 1: song that you like the brother I like Mike Will,
Speaker 1: I like Metro Boman, I like boy Wonder. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, every you know, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, tied snags. I like everybody that's
Speaker 1: being creative this. You know, you got to think about this,
Speaker 1: like right, there's a lot of people that's doing music
Speaker 1: that could have been robbing our kids and our mothers
Speaker 1: and brothers and our cousins. As long as people doing
Speaker 1: something positive, like with DMX and too, he's kind of
Speaker 1: said the same thing, shout to the dog. But so
Speaker 1: you're not gonna you're not gonna call Dr Dre. That's
Speaker 1: not a new producer. Man, you just kind of just
Speaker 1: switched it up. I'm calling Dry. Just happened. You might
Speaker 1: as well call Premier too. Maybe I'm out alowing with
Speaker 1: my questions. Yeah, I'm sorry. Let's get you a new producer.
Speaker 1: Anybody that's doing something positive with music. It's just like art.
Speaker 1: It's an expression. You can relate to it or you can't.
Speaker 1: That's why there's different genres and music, different genres and
Speaker 1: art and different genres and everything that we uh facing
Speaker 1: this world. You know, I'm not gonna sit here and
Speaker 1: play around with none of those producers because you know, um,
Speaker 1: they all got a little bit of influence. And myself, Timberland,
Speaker 1: whoever you want to name, we're part of their DNA
Speaker 1: whether we like it or not. They took a part
Speaker 1: of what we did and created themselves. If I diss them,
Speaker 1: I'm technically this and myself. They just they're just on
Speaker 1: another platform and see another stage that they got to
Speaker 1: perform on. That doesn't deplete my stage. That just like
Speaker 1: it's a compliment of each other. You understanding what I
Speaker 1: have to do. The things that I don't like, I
Speaker 1: have to fix. So my album, I'm like, bars, let's
Speaker 1: name of the album. Let's make a public the name.
Speaker 1: I don't know the name of the album. I don't
Speaker 1: even think that. I don't even think about no name.
Speaker 1: I just thought about like fucking up everything. That's the
Speaker 1: name of the album. But now let's take it to
Speaker 1: the first rough rideout for rough ride of compilation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is the difference compilation and the album because it
Speaker 1: wasn't an artist. The first rough adage was a compilation.
Speaker 1: The first rough out of album was dmx so so
Speaker 1: the first rough out of album multiples, the conglomerate of
Speaker 1: multiple artists up and coming, known not known. You know,
Speaker 1: That's that's when people heard Beanies. First hard Verse was
Speaker 1: on the album. That's when people heard Infrared and Cross,
Speaker 1: That's when people heard you know, Eve, That's when people
Speaker 1: heard drag On. That's when people got exposed to a
Speaker 1: lot of things that I wasn't really out there yet,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so you know, first
Speaker 1: niggas won that first album? What what was? What was it?
Speaker 1: Because there were all separate entities, You had all these
Speaker 1: separate groups. Now just saying the compilation album, Well, we
Speaker 1: had no separate groups. And I never even knew what
Speaker 1: the compilation was before I did that album. I just
Speaker 1: knew that we was making an album with the family,
Speaker 1: and uh, we was taking everybody's verses and putting out
Speaker 1: siders on them to fill up the space. You know,
Speaker 1: I was too young to understand what was a compilation
Speaker 1: not a compilation. I didn't give a funk what it was.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to produce the best ship and make
Speaker 1: the people feel good. And I was hungry. I was thirsty.
Speaker 1: I was going up against Greece. I was going up
Speaker 1: against Pete K. I was going up against you know,
Speaker 1: uh young Lord. I was going up against a lot
Speaker 1: of producers at that time that you know, spunk bigger,
Speaker 1: a lot of producers that had like a lot of recognition.
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to make the best music I
Speaker 1: can making. And when I looked up, I had like
Speaker 1: ninety percent of that done. And then I've seen I
Speaker 1: looked up, I had an eighty percent of the Locks
Speaker 1: album done, no percent of E done. I even setting
Speaker 1: up extra next album done, and and you know, I
Speaker 1: just I just wanted to go hard. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Now, why are you in grease at that
Speaker 1: would like work together and looking together as a taxi situation?
Speaker 1: You know, Um, we've grown in now. Um. I never
Speaker 1: knew why a Greece had a problem with me, because
Speaker 1: you know, my uncle when I was when I went
Speaker 1: to Atlanta, my uncle was like, you know, I got
Speaker 1: a couple of producers that I wanted. I want to
Speaker 1: uh continue the movement while while are you gone? And
Speaker 1: he took me to Young Lord's house, and he took
Speaker 1: me to Greece house and he took me to Young
Speaker 1: Lord's house. I seemed like a real stable environment. And
Speaker 1: I was like, no, young long guy like a great
Speaker 1: he had a great foundation. I went to Greece when
Speaker 1: it's abandon building. I'm like, damn, he might need it
Speaker 1: more than young lord. So I picked Greece to be
Speaker 1: the producer at that time when I wasn't available. And
Speaker 1: competition naturally, uh turns into what it turns into, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But you know, I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: keep it positive. I didn't did a lot of things
Speaker 1: to him, did a lot of things. You know. Um,
Speaker 1: he hadn't spoken by my name since I handled the
Speaker 1: last situation. And I'm gonna just say blessings to him
Speaker 1: and thank you for what he contributed to the frost
Speaker 1: out of the family. No sucking ship. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know he's blocking. No, let me stop easy, Okay,
Speaker 1: Let's keep it positive. Keep positive. It's positive. It's all positive.
Speaker 1: I just always, you know, always, just notice that you know,
Speaker 1: he brought this, was was there for them very very
Speaker 1: very weekend. That's all. That's all I always sto we Uh.
Speaker 1: I kind of like the Me and Greece back and forth,
Speaker 1: you know, because it just felt good you're talking about
Speaker 1: every whatever whatever one my dog had a fight with
Speaker 1: his dog to my real dogs. Now we really had
Speaker 1: we really had, we really had powers. You're talking about
Speaker 1: real people. I think people are polls now we me
Speaker 1: and me and Greece went back to like his dog
Speaker 1: had dogs problem. Goddamn, they don't get no rather than that,
Speaker 1: and then you know, we were talking about people. Unless
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, I'm talking. He let him tell you, you know, okay,
Speaker 1: let me let him tell you. And then we we
Speaker 1: and we eventually got into it and we had to
Speaker 1: handle it like men and whatever. Knew that I respect
Speaker 1: him as a man, and I respect him and respect
Speaker 1: me as a man. I agree to never talk to
Speaker 1: him talk on his name negative, and he agreed never
Speaker 1: to talk on my name negative. And uh, if that
Speaker 1: was done, then we just did with the consequences. But
Speaker 1: that was the deal that we made. So I can't
Speaker 1: be even here on this show today and talk about
Speaker 1: that man negative. I respect him. He made a lot
Speaker 1: of hits for dogs. He's a great producer. He put
Speaker 1: a Hollom on the map. He put a lot of
Speaker 1: people big yell as well. Right all that you know,
Speaker 1: my my dad managed big al you understand my favorite
Speaker 1: ear my dad. My dad is serious. My dad was
Speaker 1: a party with my fami boyfriend out with cool Hirk.
Speaker 1: Him and cool Hirk was neighbors upstairs downstairs, so those
Speaker 1: beginning parties, my dad was a part of those parties.
Speaker 1: I never even said that ship public. Now you did,
Speaker 1: chance serious start. Let's just make some noise for that,
Speaker 1: lamb lily. So now so, now, when is the moment
Speaker 1: where Swiss is like, I'm that nick because we all
Speaker 1: went crazy. I went crazy. Mins is night night. I
Speaker 1: think it's probably called the bet for TV. But I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna save my eyes because it's your interview, Like
Speaker 1: what is like? What is the like? I mean, not
Speaker 1: not crazy, I'm just saying, what is the part where
Speaker 1: you said, Dad, I made it? Because the thing about
Speaker 1: exactly when that was tell us, tell us to us. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, when I got into music, I never understood
Speaker 1: that it was a business. I never understood that it
Speaker 1: made billions. I never understand that it saved so many
Speaker 1: people from the street life that were living. It was
Speaker 1: just something that I lived in, seeing every day growing
Speaker 1: up in the South Bronx and then migrating back and
Speaker 1: forth to hallm. You know, it was something that we
Speaker 1: were playing at MPVs, Land Cruises, you know, or the Covans.
Speaker 1: It was, it was just it was just the way
Speaker 1: of life naturally. And you know, when I was doing music,
Speaker 1: you know, I was already count millions on the weekends,
Speaker 1: you know, and I hated money because it was it
Speaker 1: was it was, it was messing up my phone. I
Speaker 1: was counting money on the weekends, millions of dollars because
Speaker 1: of that, because of the business that half of my
Speaker 1: team was in, and so I never really cared about
Speaker 1: the money thing like that, all Iceberg, Jacobi Jar, Nordica,
Speaker 1: all those things that was being passed down to me.
Speaker 1: I never had to really buy those things. Yeah, all
Speaker 1: of that, I speaking all that. So, you know, I
Speaker 1: was brought up fresh. I grew up in the hood
Speaker 1: Jackson Avenue seven hundred department to E. I can't say
Speaker 1: that I had a bad I can't. I can't. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not from I'm five, Okay. I can't say
Speaker 1: that I had a bad time in the hood. As
Speaker 1: bad as the hood was, like, I never had a
Speaker 1: bad time, Like I really, I really had like a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. I really, I really miss all my
Speaker 1: friends that uh not here to celebrate rank chance with
Speaker 1: us today or not able to see that shot. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's seriously like, yeah, let's celebrate all the Yeah.
Speaker 1: Great shout out to everybody that's not head to celebrate tonight. Yo,
Speaker 1: I can't believe BOCCARDI listen. I drink the whole bottle
Speaker 1: with y'all. Know we're gonna listen. I'm supposed to go
Speaker 1: to leven after this. Yeah, turn out alright, look it
Speaker 1: back to it, put it down. I love him. You
Speaker 1: know that's the remix of he just. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: This is a problem right now. You're gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: Tastes like Puerto Rico. Somebody's cool. You get your tam match.
Speaker 1: It is some Puerto Rico. Now, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: you why because every time I eat French fries and
Speaker 1: porter because a little birds come over. You know what's
Speaker 1: up a French fries in Puerto Rico. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about the French fries and you never eat friend
Speaker 1: talking about and say, of course, everybody tell them not
Speaker 1: to go to talk about where you go. I'm nice
Speaker 1: in part I ain't never eat fries in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: We got no in Porto Rico. This is a little blackbirds.
Speaker 1: You know these little birds, they're fucking nuisance. I know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about them this game. And then right
Speaker 1: right there to you like, yeah you ain't working with that?
Speaker 1: Where did we end off? I was really I was
Speaker 1: really about to get into man is where drink chance?
Speaker 1: Fuck up a drink chance? This is this is our downfall.
Speaker 1: This is you know why, because we should lose the legends,
Speaker 1: we should lose what we gotta do. So now now
Speaker 1: you were talking about where you grew up the apartment
Speaker 1: because we were going off your family and cool Hurrican
Speaker 1: all that. I just burpt from ship. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's ulble card if it's a card car. It was great.
Speaker 1: I was amazing right now. I can't my birthday smell good?
Speaker 1: When I birthted, I said, I like it. It's just
Speaker 1: kindly shout the bus around bus arounds and hit me
Speaker 1: like are you on the shew yes, shout the bus man.
Speaker 1: We had for two point five seconds, but he was
Speaker 1: that quick. No, No, it was quite album got hit
Speaker 1: number one, so we need jug bus one, you know what.
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, get ready to go and you know, and
Speaker 1: that's what we want to do Swiss. We want to
Speaker 1: continue to salute to people that's been out here doing it.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people criticize on sometimes and they
Speaker 1: say why you don't off the new niggas, And I say,
Speaker 1: I got love for the new niggas. I listened to
Speaker 1: the ship, but I don't got new stories. Like when
Speaker 1: I sit here and we talked about band from TV
Speaker 1: right now, you you told me your own perspective of
Speaker 1: band from TV or did you did you fully get
Speaker 1: into them your own perspective. I'm gonna say something on that.
Speaker 1: You know, we gotta always be students. I would love
Speaker 1: to see you challenge the new people who haven't had
Speaker 1: this show. I would march when we wenew the contract,
Speaker 1: quick to see the mark Like the new niggas, I'm
Speaker 1: never ready for the don't trying to have a secret
Speaker 1: conversation about me to my they got interview. The new
Speaker 1: niggas continue to sweat some So so I just like
Speaker 1: that you know what it's not about new old this
Speaker 1: and that it's about content. Content, about content kings good content.
Speaker 1: It's about with content, Yeah, but it's curated. So when
Speaker 1: they come here you're going to make the good content.
Speaker 1: So with this platform you have, you can change everything
Speaker 1: that you might disagree with. But you just called us curating.
Speaker 1: Are we curated? Curating? That's the that means you put together?
Speaker 1: Think you know what I'm saying in my mind? Curious?
Speaker 1: That means, right? What do that means? Do you strenk
Speaker 1: chance sports? Come over here? What does that mean? When
Speaker 1: you said chance sports? Right? You think about it on
Speaker 1: your old mine? Definitely don't believe you. Let me actually
Speaker 1: sign how much of this interview is gonna be shown?
Speaker 1: Every everything, everything your That's how we do like this
Speaker 1: that don't don't don't hold nothing out. We don't don't
Speaker 1: know nothing. Nothing's just go. Let's go. So where is
Speaker 1: I hate wasting my time? No? No, no, none of
Speaker 1: it will be wasted. None. I hate wasting you know. Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Tell you something about about Swift. I see Swiss is quick.
Speaker 1: He is one hundred percent. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: He was probably one of the first producers I said
Speaker 1: I want to do. I want something like this, and
Speaker 1: he just makes it right there, like Premiere will make it.
Speaker 1: But you gotta get Premiere a rhyme do the same thing.
Speaker 1: I want to be like this and then prober like
Speaker 1: give me the roy Black, but I'll be like he'll swiss.
Speaker 1: I want some ship like this that to be like
Speaker 1: me like that. Just be looking at you, yo, like
Speaker 1: all you still like that? Like we're like I just
Speaker 1: remember I said beat box to you. We used to
Speaker 1: be like what you know, I just I just I
Speaker 1: just have fun doing what I'm doing. Anybody want to
Speaker 1: problem come dance? When Glory I was making a fifty
Speaker 1: beat tonight and keeping six literally deleted the right. You know,
Speaker 1: it's all about your word, I think, And it's all
Speaker 1: about your dedication. Don't play around with something that you
Speaker 1: don't feel. Don't worry about what nobody else feel. If
Speaker 1: you don't feel it, it don't go you understand. And
Speaker 1: when I was making those beats for you and everybody
Speaker 1: else in the world, which I was blessed to get
Speaker 1: out my hood from it, by my family and lifestyle
Speaker 1: from it, came from a nonfair you understand. Like I
Speaker 1: don't know what that means. A nonfair meaning not faring
Speaker 1: the results of failing. Like a lot of people are
Speaker 1: scared with this. One thinks that that one thinks, but
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, what I give a funk about
Speaker 1: what my family think. A lot of those people that
Speaker 1: want to judge you on what they think, they just
Speaker 1: wut you for the fake ride, like let let something
Speaker 1: not go down right, They're gonna be gone, fake friends.
Speaker 1: Family is important. If you don't got family around you,
Speaker 1: you might be in trouble. Families everything I was, I
Speaker 1: was protected to own my rights and publishing and things
Speaker 1: like that because the rough ride of family was literally
Speaker 1: my family. And I watched a lot of people come
Speaker 1: up and do the biggest things that history can never
Speaker 1: repeat again. Roman Neodles might be their male just because
Speaker 1: of that false trust and just because of that that
Speaker 1: that false judgment, and and and listen, man, you know
Speaker 1: sky is not the limits is just your view? This
Speaker 1: is all I said that A texted him. I told him,
Speaker 1: I remember, why should skies beyond limits? There's there's billions
Speaker 1: every every start we see, there's millions of galle around. Definitely,
Speaker 1: just because we can't see past the sky, Why is that?
Speaker 1: Why should the skies beyond limits? When there's footprints on Mars,
Speaker 1: don't box us in sky is nothing? Limits is just
Speaker 1: our feel because we know that there's life and the
Speaker 1: billions of phones beyond that. And once you start getting
Speaker 1: that mentality, you just gotta go. You understand, like you know, um,
Speaker 1: I'd rather help people than hurt people. But let me
Speaker 1: ask you this, nineteen is the best here in my life. Damn.
Speaker 1: I think two seventeen is. It's the best thing in
Speaker 1: my new life. Okay, I like that. That's a life.
Speaker 1: I like that, But the best in my first life,
Speaker 1: like I had ninety seven because of a couple of
Speaker 1: the War Report, but I was still selling drugs during
Speaker 1: the War Report, and it was terrible because people told
Speaker 1: me my album was classic, but I was selling three
Speaker 1: for five, so it was they're identified with me. But
Speaker 1: best yet my life because of we had the praisest
Speaker 1: records and you described that year for you, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the best year. Hungling was the beginning of my madness.
Speaker 1: I was young, no facial hairs, no you know, no hope,
Speaker 1: no guidance, didn't drink back then, neither. I started drinking
Speaker 1: at thirty and smoking at thirty cigards weed that is
Speaker 1: I've been the whole time. I didn't want to have
Speaker 1: the car people, which I don't showed every day we
Speaker 1: and cigars on occasional vacations to be in a very
Speaker 1: festive gold boat with water and jet skis in front
Speaker 1: of me as a gold sigard. Now I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, give me this thing before. I've
Speaker 1: never thrown with him before. What what is this? What
Speaker 1: is this gold papers? What is the gold paper? Ali?
Speaker 1: What is it called? Shine first and foremost? Shout out
Speaker 1: to Ali? LL tell you somebody, Ali, he's he's a
Speaker 1: conscious guy. I watched him or protect the dog in
Speaker 1: a way nobody might not ever do that again. Right.
Speaker 1: I watched him put in his hard work, dedication. I
Speaker 1: watched him support Nori. That man is anointed in the A.
Speaker 1: That's just different. Ali is just different and they don't
Speaker 1: make him. If you don't understand him, you can look
Speaker 1: pass him, but you need to look at him. Shout
Speaker 1: out to our league. That was a beauty. It's truth.
Speaker 1: So now let's go. I want to fuck. Let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's take it, d go. Let's take us through this
Speaker 1: Friday era. I remember hearing stories that you and Jabal
Speaker 1: just beating us up. He's like the bar Jabba like
Speaker 1: single he was on, just on. But you I remember, like,
Speaker 1: like you'll be fighting too, Swiss, what's going on? Back
Speaker 1: and there? This is your past life. I still fight.
Speaker 1: He just a fight for was right. The fight was
Speaker 1: right for the power about anybody. A dummy could be physical.
Speaker 1: A dummy could be physical. A genius can be mental strategic.
Speaker 1: So my my fight now is with greatness, Like let's
Speaker 1: kill him with positivity, Let's kill him with great ideas,
Speaker 1: Let's kill them with let's killing with culture movement. You understand,
Speaker 1: like you know, I used to couldn't take words. Like
Speaker 1: a lot of people talk a lot of words when
Speaker 1: they're influence all these things on the table. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I know, you don't even know what
Speaker 1: you're doing. I got I got people that called me
Speaker 1: every day wishing I had a problem with other people.
Speaker 1: I know, somebody's bothering you. Let's go, I'm gonna nobody
Speaker 1: bothering me. Like you know what, there's enough of us
Speaker 1: hurting us going on today. We gotta stop it. We
Speaker 1: have to stop it. But it's like we got to
Speaker 1: develop a patients within our own circle. You understand. We
Speaker 1: might think that like a person no better, but based
Speaker 1: on that person's upbringing, they might not know better. You
Speaker 1: might be an o G. You might be a general,
Speaker 1: he might be a pond, and the pond is gonna
Speaker 1: make the most mistakes. We got a guide that pond
Speaker 1: into being a future general or o G. It's our
Speaker 1: job if we know better understand. So it's like they
Speaker 1: could have been I could have abused my power and
Speaker 1: twenty of my homies could have been doing a bunch
Speaker 1: of times, and I would have took care of their
Speaker 1: family just because that was the protocol. But it's like,
Speaker 1: if we can help people more than we can hurt people,
Speaker 1: and we then that we're doing we're doing it, and
Speaker 1: we're doing a justice and and and our ecosystem. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. The easiest thing for me to
Speaker 1: do is the do something disrespectful. It don't take no
Speaker 1: thinking to do something disrespectful. But the most respectful thing
Speaker 1: to do is something respectful. Listen, bro, let me talk
Speaker 1: to you right now. I know you feel like this,
Speaker 1: Why are you really have a problem with me? Because well,
Speaker 1: I ain't never even really say that. Most of the
Speaker 1: beef and depths over miscommunication. If you really listen to
Speaker 1: the conversation, it's a miscommunication, you understand, And we got
Speaker 1: to have a tonnerance to understand the dialogue of the
Speaker 1: communication to indicate if it's a violation or miscommunication. A
Speaker 1: violation we gotta deal with accordingly. Miscommunication, which is most
Speaker 1: of the times you go home to your family, had
Speaker 1: gone to my family. I give your hug man, I'm
Speaker 1: happy to meet you. If you ever need something on
Speaker 1: your in the side, let me know. If I'm on,
Speaker 1: that's something to call you. Let you know. I meant
Speaker 1: a lot of ogs, real official, authentic ogs or for miscommunication,
Speaker 1: but the intentions of non violation, you know, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's a difference. Like a lot of people I came,
Speaker 1: I came, and um, they don't even know the code.
Speaker 1: They don't know the codes, and it takes a lot
Speaker 1: of ogs to explain the code, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like there's not many olds anymore. There is, but not that,
Speaker 1: but hold on being examples. A Swiss favorite and hip
Speaker 1: hop period. My favorite in hip hop is the nineties.
Speaker 1: And the reason I'm gonna say that is because ninties
Speaker 1: period night, because that's because that's take years beginning to
Speaker 1: hold that. Then because eight break, you know, I just
Speaker 1: felt like we were very experimental. It was very experimental.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to sound different. Everybody's the goal was to
Speaker 1: be as far left as right as possible. Understand um,
Speaker 1: Now nowadays it's sounding like one producer in respect to
Speaker 1: all those producers. But nowadays it's an easy fix. It's
Speaker 1: like when before we had to like this table right
Speaker 1: to get to fix. You understand, it was a process
Speaker 1: and now it's like a program process. And no disrespect
Speaker 1: to the technology or that people using technology. I use
Speaker 1: the technology, but you know, be as that versus you
Speaker 1: can How are you going to be the producer that
Speaker 1: you want to be if people think you're three people?
Speaker 1: When I was Swiss, I was only Swiss. The only
Speaker 1: thing I can say was I was so Swiss that
Speaker 1: they thought it was Swiss Beats was a group. I
Speaker 1: used to be in the em like Yo, where's the
Speaker 1: rest of Swiss Beat? Stay over there? And I used
Speaker 1: to sing around one over here, this one's coming in here.
Speaker 1: Being later it was like, you know, the us that
Speaker 1: you was making it was so big that they thought
Speaker 1: you was You was like many of people, you know.
Speaker 1: And my thing that I say the producers is like, yo,
Speaker 1: that was you know, challenge yourself to be uh greater
Speaker 1: than the radio right And I'm sorry this is crazy,
Speaker 1: but is there any producer that you hate it? Like
Speaker 1: you this nigger got stopped. There's a lot of producers
Speaker 1: that's fake. But I can't say that. You know, hate
Speaker 1: is a is a big word, not not not hate
Speaker 1: like you don't want him to succeed, but like, damn
Speaker 1: this this thing is like Jones is not correct, Like
Speaker 1: you don't even get those people the time of dating
Speaker 1: and over there, you know what I'm saying, like my
Speaker 1: ads hard of THEND you to culture until what's right?
Speaker 1: I listened to feel like COUTI Bobma, they shot Day Noriega,
Speaker 1: different different things that you know, I gotta, I gotta.
Speaker 1: I got a variety of the sound cloud of my
Speaker 1: own brain. Even uh, you know somebody that's like being
Speaker 1: a little on those lines of faking this and that.
Speaker 1: Did you ever were you ever sample like heavy, like
Speaker 1: sampling old records because I don't I hate with people
Speaker 1: sample bad for TV. Let's just come on, don't change something.
Speaker 1: People keep trying to say this right here right now
Speaker 1: every time I ask you. That's why I'm asking him this,
Speaker 1: And you just changed the whole. Please go back back
Speaker 1: to this subject. Let's run back the mark. I let
Speaker 1: when people trying to rhyme with a band with TV,
Speaker 1: let's test telling me from tvl't please leave everybody. I
Speaker 1: say that right now they sample mad from TV's and balation.
Speaker 1: We're coming to see football change. Thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: Please leave le play with studio. I'm sorry what you
Speaker 1: were saying. You got me that time. But were you
Speaker 1: ever did you ever sample? Were you ever sample heaving
Speaker 1: on old records? I never would sample heavy if out
Speaker 1: of the five hundred finish song dudes, you know. I
Speaker 1: know that for a fact, as I'm asking if you
Speaker 1: ever did it? So I like, I like samples. So
Speaker 1: it's my ignorance. I'm a DJ, he's a producer. This
Speaker 1: this might be ignorant question on my end. But do
Speaker 1: you think that you ushered in the production wave of
Speaker 1: not sampling went because they changed the game? You know, um,
Speaker 1: you know Farrell thank me and Jeff Blaze thank me
Speaker 1: because you know imagine, like before I started not sample
Speaker 1: and Puff Daddy had the James Brown samples total and
Speaker 1: all these different groups on smash and I came with
Speaker 1: these non samples and the reason why I came with
Speaker 1: the non samples because everything I was sampling, I felt
Speaker 1: like somebody was stealing something from me. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: just sample, it's like hey, and then he stole my sound,
Speaker 1: like no, that's not your sound. And then I got
Speaker 1: a U Yamaha and one or whatever, the Core game
Speaker 1: one call a game one, and I just started playing
Speaker 1: playing what I felt was good. And you know resci
Speaker 1: Pec Calv you know and in Halem No you know
Speaker 1: him keV cos you knows. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I just was using the Core one and doing
Speaker 1: my thing, and I the reason why I liked it
Speaker 1: was because what I what I came with was unpredictable,
Speaker 1: and so I knew that nobody can come out with it.
Speaker 1: And I also knew that they can clear. There's no
Speaker 1: samples to clad. So what you heard right now, you
Speaker 1: can put out tomorrow. And that was like my my marketing,
Speaker 1: marketing playing at that time. So you don't have to
Speaker 1: share the publishing at all. I've gained a lot of
Speaker 1: publishing off of you know, That's what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: changed the game. Yeah, I never even knew about publishing
Speaker 1: until I got the check I never I never knew
Speaker 1: the process of a publishing check, never knew a process
Speaker 1: of royal teasing mechanic. Who's all those things? Where do
Speaker 1: we learn that? Who teach us that? Nobody? What are
Speaker 1: we going to ask at school? They don't'ta teach us ship.
Speaker 1: Nobody don't teach us anything. You know, we just a
Speaker 1: part of this environment and we where we're creative means
Speaker 1: and we do we feel that's right. Nobody never talked
Speaker 1: to us about the business. And that's why and and
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen on forward, I'm going to teach the business.
Speaker 1: I went to Harvard just because just so I can
Speaker 1: teach the people the business. I want to teach you
Speaker 1: are I want to teach you business for free. Education
Speaker 1: should be free, knowledge should be free. You understand the
Speaker 1: whole these things back from us? And then how are
Speaker 1: we going to get to the next level? How are
Speaker 1: we gonna seceed to the next level? We don't know
Speaker 1: what we're doing. We're just happy to make a sound.
Speaker 1: You understand what's the parameters of that sound to make
Speaker 1: our families living a better life other than a gett
Speaker 1: that we was brought up in. You understand, like my
Speaker 1: whole hood is dead. I don't know nobody in my
Speaker 1: hood right now, you know what I'm saying, Just like, damn,
Speaker 1: I'll go back to my streets. I want to build parks,
Speaker 1: all these different things. I don't know these motherfucker's. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like you wasn't around. Who
Speaker 1: is this? He might dance on me, you know, saying
Speaker 1: my man, who with a bunch of things like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I shouldn't be over here
Speaker 1: like this. But it's the reality of reality, and we
Speaker 1: gotta face him. We gotta change it. Everybody want to,
Speaker 1: uh talk about change, but the only change that we're
Speaker 1: gonna have us within. We gotta change with each other.
Speaker 1: You understand what's going on in Chicago, gotta change, what's
Speaker 1: going in New York, gotta change going on in the world.
Speaker 1: Gotta change. And that's when I come within. And we
Speaker 1: gotta be smart enough to change those barriers and those rules.
Speaker 1: Put them guns aways and think more women's moms white.
Speaker 1: She gotta my wife, Guys, my wife got I got
Speaker 1: seven am in the morning, was like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: the women's March. I'll be back at three o'clock, I'm like, seriously,
Speaker 1: she just did She just didn't even tell me about
Speaker 1: she just did it. And when we gotta be as men,
Speaker 1: the women is more powerful than us. I believe so
Speaker 1: the one no, I know when they stick together, no period,
Speaker 1: The women is more powerful than us because the devotion
Speaker 1: to um realism is different. Like we were, we're like um,
Speaker 1: we're trapped in a lot of different things. Ego, this
Speaker 1: man power, that ship don't mean nothing like the women.
Speaker 1: If your wife tells you she don't mess with nobody,
Speaker 1: don't mess with that person. She's gonna see something that
Speaker 1: you don't see. And we think we got all answer,
Speaker 1: but she was like, yo, I don't like him in
Speaker 1: the house. Don't let him in that house because the
Speaker 1: reason why you let him in the house, she's seeing
Speaker 1: why she don't like him in that house. He went
Speaker 1: to the bathroom, went to the taller and watched her
Speaker 1: hand to flesh your color. That's disrespectful ship. She's gonna
Speaker 1: tell you that I'm gonna go to your house, wash
Speaker 1: my hands, fush your tiler, make sure to sit down,
Speaker 1: respectful ship. Crue the enemy gonna come in and disrespect
Speaker 1: your home. Piss on the toilet, see on your floor,
Speaker 1: and you're telling me gonna check my rocks. Now we're
Speaker 1: going until you can piss on my world. Downtime. You
Speaker 1: ain't been there a long time. If you don't come outside,
Speaker 1: you know, before we get out of here, I gotta
Speaker 1: bring this record back one more motherfucker time. This record
Speaker 1: is so motherfucking New York. It's so hip hop. Drink
Speaker 1: chance Anthem, my brother and no ware produced by my
Speaker 1: nigga Swiss beats. Check it out? What what what? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: God doing? What? Everybody to the left door, left the
Speaker 1: gunlover everybody stone water, Yeah, everybody like to the stone
Speaker 1: to get up? Now down trying to get chants in
Speaker 1: me and my click. I gotta hunt his life my point?
Speaker 1: What super dog like my point? Why my super dog
Speaker 1: like my point? They don't hear me though. You want
Speaker 1: to dlink change, but not to get the life to
Speaker 1: keep the only didn't killing get clink change because I
Speaker 1: need to laf to keep the forty. Only ain't kicking, y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm one. Doesn't change because I need your life to
Speaker 1: keep the forty on me, y'all. Damn down on the
Speaker 1: drink because I ul left swizzy. What come on the love?
Speaker 1: You want to drink chaps a trick? Alf hit the
Speaker 1: phone before they only picking got fan without got a
Speaker 1: drink rocket mortgage. You come on yo, Yeah, I'm got
Speaker 1: some new ships. Yeah, I WoT some new ship cooking
Speaker 1: like your killers. But you won't never do ship. I
Speaker 1: told my nigger's twice your back at it. They slept
Speaker 1: onna slide. I'm a craft matter, used to self crack.
Speaker 1: Ain't drink a lot, ain't going when the winter time.
Speaker 1: See me want to make a lot. I mean to
Speaker 1: drink chin. Course, I drink a lot. I used to
Speaker 1: keep that clock on me. I don't think so now
Speaker 1: picking out, I'm chopping down. Okay, don't hit me up.
Speaker 1: Drink chance because that we can laugh. Used to keep
Speaker 1: the forty only ain't kick the lap. He made the
Speaker 1: drink chance because he get your lap. He used to
Speaker 1: keep the forty on. Come on, come on to drink chance.
Speaker 1: It's a drink a lot. Get the body to drink chance.
Speaker 1: I see. All I want to do is be s
Speaker 1: sell fool. Think about the money. Second, that ship is
Speaker 1: stressful to think about the fair. Love is that shit
Speaker 1: is stressful. Did it for a long time, But when
Speaker 1: you don't, still wore timberlance, never change on you. My
Speaker 1: friends still demandican man. I did it my way, acts
Speaker 1: for no permissions. The only dude smoking on trees and
Speaker 1: no permission everybody, So now get out, now down, Yes
Speaker 1: a team. This don't feel like New York. I do
Speaker 1: not know what to tell you. Let's go me the
Speaker 1: tint change because the life they keep the last time
Speaker 1: last funny. I want to drink Champs. It's a tricker,
Speaker 1: got the party. I got some rocks, so we're gonna
Speaker 1: get drunk, half fun take more shots. You see. I
Speaker 1: celebrate life. I could have been to jail and had
Speaker 1: snigger like yeah, that's what I'm here for a reason.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna celebrate. Drink more for no breezing, bro.
Speaker 1: This is drink tip season to boy, have a drink.
Speaker 1: Go ahead and enjoy your evening. Every Body to the show.
Speaker 1: Now dick up, now turn downtown watching me and my click.
Speaker 1: I got a super dog first, come on, come on
Speaker 1: one more time? Like, why come on? I want to
Speaker 1: drink wild because that's right. The forty only ain't kicking
Speaker 1: where we are on the wild because it ticking. Watch
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