1 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome in. I'm Doug Gli. This is the newest 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: All Ball. It's part two of my discussion with Kyle 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: mill and Kyle Milling is a longtime friend of mine. 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: UH played to my dad's AU team when I was 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: in middle and into high school. I was a backup. UH. 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: In the first episode, we talked about his personal basketball 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: journey growing up Pawa, San Diego, ultimately going to UC 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: Santa Barbara, then deciding he wasn't happy there despite the 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: fact that the campus even Jerry pim It's kind of 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: like paradise, right, Um. And he went to Oregon, had 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: a had a great run in Oregon playing under Jerry Green. 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: I told my own Jerry Green. UH kind of recruiting story. Anyway. UM. 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: When we last left you, UH, Kyle was discussing the 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: end of his basketball journey as a player. Now he's 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: a talented coach in Hiroshima in Japan. He's coached for 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: years in UH in France and both pro B and 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: in the Pro A. UM and you know again, among 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: the discussions in episode one, if you missed and you 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: should download it, listen to it, rate it, review it. 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: It's awesome. UM. He talked about meeting his wife in France. 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: He talked about playing in Toulon, buying a house and 22 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: Toulon and all the all the things that that he 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: did kind of to become, you know, a Frenchman. If 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: you will, um, when you get done playing, you're kind 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: of looking for what's next, and I think you'll be 26 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: interested in the journey. So what I wanted to do 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: is I wanted to make this a second part so 28 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: that if you really enjoyed it, you got a chance 29 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: to dig in on the really good stuff, the coaching stuff, 30 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: because I have lots of coaches there. I UM, I've 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: had friends that continue to reach out to me. Hey man, 32 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: when I'm recruiting, when I'm going to see going into 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: a gym, when I'm driving in the middle of nowhere, 34 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: I like listen to guys talk about ball, and Kyle 35 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: is just one of those guys. He's got two sons 36 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: that play college basketball. You'll hear about them. One who 37 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: just transferred came from Nevada to uh you C. Davis. 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: It's got another one in junior college and uh He's 39 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: This interview took place he was in his apartment in Hiroshima, Japan. 40 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: We we talked sushi. Um, we talked sushi rolls. We 41 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: talked all the best eating in France and other places. 42 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: I think you're really gonna enjoy it. Here's part two 43 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: on my discussion with Kyle Milling When, Um, when did 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: you decide, Hey, I want to coach. But after all, 45 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: when I was done playing in Monaco, I had always 46 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: wanted to go home. And uh I got taken online class. 47 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: I've got my degree, but I took online classes become 48 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: a teacher. So I went back to San Diego. I 49 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: got my teaching certificate, was teaching in high school and 50 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: coaching in high school and Mont Carmel, and uh I 51 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: loved it. And I was coaching a youth stuff for 52 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: my sons and stuff. I loved it, but uh I 53 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: wanted more like a higher level as well. The higher 54 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: level I missed it. And uh I was there at 55 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 1: home two years same time, trying to get my wife. 56 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: My wife's a nurse and we're trying to get her 57 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: her nursing certificate. We had big problems with that with 58 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: foreign nurses. The Nursing Board basically didn't want to qualifier 59 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: to be a California nurse. So anyways, in the same time, 60 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: when my best friends in France called me asked me 61 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: if I'd be interested to become an assistant coach on 62 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: Toulon and Toulon the same team I where I played 63 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: forever and basically didn't hesitate. We packed up our bags 64 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: again and went back across the waters. You mentioned your 65 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: your boys, Um, how long were they? So they were 66 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: only in How long were they win in San Diego? Uh? 67 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: Fifth grade? Fourth grade is sixth grade and the third 68 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: grade to fifth grade. Okay, so you get you get 69 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: back to France and now they're in the that's the 70 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: age once you get to like seventh day, like now 71 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: you want to become a hooper? Right? What's that? Like? 72 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: What was their upbringing like in France? Like do they 73 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: have with the on the Toulon junior team and you 74 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: did and you didn't coach him? Were you in the 75 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: gym with you every night? They can be privately what 76 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: was what was? What was there? All? It's all club 77 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: in France. Everything's clubs, so they have clubs that aren't professional. 78 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: But at the same time there's no youth leagues and 79 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: there's no so they played for my my team have 80 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: the youth teams? So each teams basically two year levels, 81 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: so you have a seven eight year olds, eight nine 82 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: year olds, ten of eleven year olds, and then when 83 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: you could high school, it's three years, so it's a fifteen, sixteen, 84 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: seventeen year old. So I know they played in the 85 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: youth teams and uh, you know, I never coached him. 86 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: So they come to practice and hang out with us 87 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: and hang out with the guys and stuff. But you 88 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: know they practice between two to As they get older, 89 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: it's more and more times per week. But you know, 90 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: their jerseys are the two loan and ashtvs. The team name, 91 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: same same club as the pro games. So basically the 92 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: whole system is you build up, you go from little kids. All. 93 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: The whole goal is you go from the they called 94 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: baby basket, the baby basketball, to high school basketball to 95 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: the basically college age because there's no college team there 96 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: and uh, the eighteen or twenty year old team. And 97 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: the whole goals are for those teams to try to 98 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: get one or two players per year to make the proteins. 99 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: What what how? How is the training when they train? 100 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: What do they do that's that's different from what we do. 101 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: Probably a lot of exercises, a lot of cones. They 102 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: like put them cones out there, a lot of individual 103 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: you know, between the drible, in between the passing, between 104 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,679 Speaker 1: the repetition and drills. There's a lot less playing five 105 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: on five or stuff. There's a you know, either reduced 106 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: numbers through out therese forum force two on twos, but 107 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: a lot more skill work than probably in the States 108 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: when they're younger, and a lot more practice because the 109 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: only play once a week. And if that so, you know, 110 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: they're not playing twice a week, three times a week 111 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: or just games uh you know, four games a day 112 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: on the weekends or so. It's basically a lot more 113 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: skill work throughout the week and than they do in 114 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: the States. That's why so many guys are more fundamentally sound. 115 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: You could say, yeah, so you say you arrived, you've 116 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: been a high school coach and now you're assistant. What 117 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: did when your assistant? What did you focus on? Like, 118 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: did you did the head coach breaking down lee your defense? 119 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: Like were you just working working with the guys, just 120 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: working with the bigs? Would you do well? I typical 121 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: French writing for the system. Most teams I've one assistant, 122 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: especially in the lower team, bigger teams now have two 123 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: or three assistants, so basically it was me. I was 124 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: the only assistant. He was my best friend. The head coach. 125 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: I took the big guys to work. What's that what's 126 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: his name, law Lindiam And uh he's still coaching now. 127 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: He's one of the best coaches in France still And uh, 128 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: and it was I took the big guys doing individual work. 129 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: I do a lot of the warm ups the first 130 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, fifteen twenty minutes a female beither offensive drills 131 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: to warm up or defensive drills a warm up. And 132 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: took care all the video as well to prepare for 133 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: the other teams. And uh, and obviously he's French. I'm American, 134 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: so we had three American players at the time, so 135 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: I took kind of took care of American players, are 136 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: translating as well, many things like that. So did you 137 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: like it? Yeah, I know I loved it. We had 138 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: well the team, but later too, we've always they have 139 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: always kind of been a lower budget team, so we 140 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: had won the lowest budgets. It was the second division 141 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: at the time in Proby and uh. The first year 142 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: we uh we made the playoffs. Second year we finished 143 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: second basically having a used amount of money. So oh, 144 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: we had a great time winning, winning when it makes 145 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: it fun. So um. And then how did you eat 146 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: your first coaching job? Well, my buddy along got moved 147 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: up to you got a job in the first division 148 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: and Dijon, so he left and basically they just promoted 149 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: me to the hedge job. So I took over the 150 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: team after being two years as his assistant. Were any 151 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: of the guys on the team? So, guys did you 152 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: played with? No, they had all left. A couple of 153 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: younger French players were had grown up playing on the 154 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 1: youth teams and stuff, so so I had either throwing 155 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: them elbows during practice or had watched them playing kind 156 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: of grew up at them. But okay, so the head 157 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: coach and get your own team. Okay, how much involvement 158 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: did you have in terms of players selection? Pretty pretty 159 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: much all of it. So the GM of the time 160 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: actually was my buddy's dad, and uh we had maybe 161 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: one or two or three French guys who still have 162 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: contracts that they stayed. But the way we worked in 163 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: is basically did the recruiting or the selection the players, 164 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: and then the GM at the time he basically verified 165 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: he had been there thirty years and it was basically 166 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: he was the the boss of everything. And uh, he 167 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: would verify the players and then UH, I kind of 168 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: had a price, gave him a price, and then he 169 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: did the final negotiation of the agent songs. But basically 170 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: your first American uh, Maurice Acker, and I had Rob 171 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: Shooter for man. Mariice Acker, little point guard from Marquette 172 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: who Chris do Chris Dove he went to went to Bellamine. 173 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: But he's had a great career in Europe now as well. 174 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: And uh and uh we had a great team the 175 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: first year. First year, we we basically had the lowest 176 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: budget in France, the second division, and we wanted the 177 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: first year. So as far as I starting my coaching career, 178 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,599 Speaker 1: kuld have started in a better way. So you go, 179 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: you go the first acasition next year, right, because how 180 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: do you function in the first division when you had 181 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: the lowest budget in the second But we had the 182 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: lowest budget again in the first division, and we ended 183 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: up when we started great. We were at the top 184 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: first half of the year. We're probably in the top 185 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: eight or nine. We're doing incredibly well again. And I 186 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: took a lot of guys would come from the second division. 187 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: I wanted guys who were hungry because we had no money, 188 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: so I wanted guys basically sold it. You come played 189 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: for me first division. You may not make a lot 190 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: of money, but you get your foot in the door, 191 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: and if you have a great year, you get paid 192 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: to show yourself. You getting better contracts somewhere else actually exactly, 193 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: so you know, I saw the sold it like that. 194 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: So we ended up doing really well in the beginning, 195 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: and then halfway through the year, well I basically signed 196 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: or a rumor came out that I was gonna leave, 197 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: and uh, we kind of didn't do so well after that, 198 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: but we're in the whole the whole goal. The whole 199 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: goal was to stay in the first division, which halfway 200 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: through the year we almost had a locked up, and 201 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: then uh to end up basically leaving, not leave with 202 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: the rumor got out that I was leaving it. So 203 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: how the rumor come out? So you did interview with somebody? Yeah, yeah, 204 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: I interview with someone and it was my two thirds 205 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 1: of the way through and uh, somewhere around there, and uh, 206 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how I got an agents. Where are 207 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: the agents leak everything. Agents leaked it to the press, 208 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: and then so I got out on the press that 209 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: I was gonna leave. Basically I denied it, of course, 210 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: but I was out there that I was gonna leave. 211 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: And then, uh so we strugg a little bit after, 212 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: but in the last game of the year and verified 213 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: that I was gonna leave. So where'd you go? Okay, 214 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: So before we get to the most, so, what do 215 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: you like as a head coach right like at this 216 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: point in time? Like what are you running as far 217 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: as your system? Are you practicing like an American coach? 218 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: And practicing like French coach? Like? What what are you like? Uh? 219 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: I'd say I had a mix between the American style 220 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: the French style, because I wouldn't say we practiced super 221 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: long like maybe some European coaches will do. But so 222 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: I kept the practice hard, a little short, but very hard. 223 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: But we you know, we had the two days and 224 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: uh and as well, so I kind of mixed the 225 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: two cultures together again. And uh so when we had 226 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: at least amount of money, I we we ran. I 227 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: tried to get a team selected to a kind of 228 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: the classic modern day type thing with a lot of 229 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: three point shots, I knew weren't to be as big 230 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: as physical as so many other teams, So especially that 231 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: first year in the first Division, we had a team 232 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: that shot a lot of threes. My whole goal is 233 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: to get hot. We had to win basically twelve games 234 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: to stay in the first Division. So I was trying 235 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: to build a team where my mind I was like, 236 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: we can get hot towel the thirteen games of the 237 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: year and when basically that's enough to stay in the 238 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: first division. And the first couple of years, man, one 239 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: of the best defense is always so uh you let 240 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: the lead a rebound into which I always try to 241 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: sell that that's two things you can teach and almost 242 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: anyone can do. So we focused on defense and basically 243 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: shooting threes and survive or how many do you win 244 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: when you try to try to win to overard thirteen? 245 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: How much like fourteen I think or something, But we 246 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: hadn't one like nine. Early becas we were doing like 247 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: really well, and then it was like, we want to 248 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: lose a streak, and it was it was a longer 249 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: and then you're going to lose a streak in Europe 250 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: and it's not a couple of weeks. Things you could 251 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: turn into like a couple of months. So we're playing 252 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: once a week, it gets long. A couple of playing 253 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: once a week with some breaks in between, losing streaks 254 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: can get long. So did you coach in English or 255 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: in French? Frankly? Mixed longly a little bit like you 256 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: called to you talk? Or do you go to to 257 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: run too? Like? Wait, what do you do? It depends 258 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: who was who was breaking ball up? Um? Do you 259 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: did you start thinking? Do you think in French? But 260 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: do you think? What are you thinking? In English? Now? 261 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: I still think in English? Uh, pretty much always thinking English. 262 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: But I would flip flow between what I was talking to. 263 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: I speak basically I got a big accent, but so 264 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: depending on who I was talking to, uh, speaking French, 265 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: speaking English and mixing, mixing and match and then sam. 266 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: In the French league now you can have up to 267 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: five to six foreign players in the first division, so 268 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: depending on the group, you know, it's basically a half 269 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: and half, so you gotta kind of mix it. Do 270 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: you like that? Do you like the interflex and more 271 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: foreign count? Uh? What? It depends what side you're on, 272 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: because I mean the French league there's a lot of 273 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: good young French players, and so you know, a lot 274 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: of teams will bring some imports in and maybe the 275 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: French guys are just as good or deserve it, but 276 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: they need a chance and they're confidence French players some 277 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: of them missing. Maybe it's a little bit of confidence 278 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: and that American killer instinct, but they have just as 279 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: much physical talent and almost talent, but it's just that 280 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: mental side of it that they're missing. So maybe with 281 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: the playing time, a little bit extra playing time, a 282 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: little bit more responsibility, maybe hit that next level basically. 283 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: But you know, of course, if you're to the open 284 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: borders and you know, like the team idly Mos, I 285 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: only took one year. I took four foreigners had like six, 286 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: six or seven French. I didn't take the full quarter. 287 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: I went to the young French guy style too. So 288 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 289 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 290 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app 291 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: search f s are to listen live. What is it 292 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: like to kind of guy? Oh, it's hard because I 293 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: still you know, some some coaches probably don't care, but 294 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: I uh, I had been cut myself and I had 295 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: been treated you know good obviously throughout my career, but 296 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: I have been treated like a piece of crap too. Man. 297 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: I never obviously enjoyed being treated like a piece of crap, 298 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: so when but it's still a business. So when you 299 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: do have to cut a player, it's obviously not it's 300 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: not easy. And uh there are some coaches who put 301 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: the guy on our track at six o'clock in the 302 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: morning and force them out and run them out and 303 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: I can't do that. And I could never do that, 304 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: and so you know, maybe sometimes people say maybe that'd 305 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: be too nice, but it was hard. So uh, limoge, 306 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: how do you do? Lemo? The first year very goodly 307 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: most historically is one of the best French teams, one 308 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: of the most titles I think throughout history, your second 309 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: most or something. And they hadn't been the playoffs in 310 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: a few years. Mayways. First year we finished third, made semifinals, 311 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: played the euro Cup, finished some top six teams. We 312 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: had a great year and I had a lot of 313 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: good young French players who had some responsibility the year 314 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: before because obviously they were good players, but they even 315 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: put them more on the map because they're room. I 316 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: had a lot more responsibilities, so um and and then 317 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: where'd you go next? The second year, I got cut 318 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: halfway through the year after so as my first experience 319 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: as a coach of getting fired and so so what 320 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: do you remember about what do you rememb about getting 321 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: back a lot? Okay, so at the time you record 322 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: was what we were four and seven in the league, 323 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: euro Cup or like two and three ye or two 324 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: and four. It's not bad. It was a it was 325 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: a relationship type problem that started everything basically. So, so 326 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: I I we had a player, you know, smarter, smarter Samuels. 327 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: I went to Louise. Yeah. Yeah, so I had him 328 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: the year before. He's a great player and he's a 329 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: good guy, a great player. Yeah, but he played in 330 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: the NBA and then he kind of hat was good 331 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: at Europe and started having some problems every my first year. 332 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: We took him towards the end of the year and 333 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: he really helped us and I had a great year, 334 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: but I didn't want him back the second year with 335 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: the GM and some of the fans who kind of 336 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: controlled the team there wanted him back and he was 337 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: I said no. All summer you mentioned the GM and 338 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: posing on me, and I had taken two French centers. 339 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: So that didn't go too well with the two French 340 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: centers who were good players playing national team or great 341 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: great players, so kind of made the balance of the 342 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: team off. And Tomarto knew basically, even though I had 343 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: no problems with him, he knew that I didn't want 344 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: him anyways. So at one point I was in the game, 345 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: I was young, the Somarto to defend and he told 346 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: me basically, funk off, and he told me to sun off. 347 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: I said, fuck me, and like you know, basically, you 348 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: go sit out and you're not gonna play again. And 349 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: that was my time. And I knew at the time 350 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: it was a little uh because most we most just 351 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: bumped through maybe seventeen eighteen coaches and twenty years or 352 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: something basics. So basically every six day months a year, 353 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: the coaching is fired. So it's a crazy place. And 354 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: so basically I knew my time, it's either gonna be 355 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: me or some Marto was gonna have to leave. So 356 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: I took that as my opportunity to try to get 357 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: him gone. And anyway, so he was he was, he 358 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: was gonna get the GM said, okay, we'll get rid 359 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: of him. Basically, we won two games without him. We 360 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: lost two games without him in the games that we 361 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: need some arter back. And he came back. And that 362 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: was the end for me because the whole situation, we 363 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: lost maybe one or two games more. And then the 364 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: GM pulled me aside. He didn't pull me aside. We 365 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: lost the game at home. He pulled me outside the 366 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: v I P thing and it was raining outside and 367 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: basically told me we're gonna make a change under the 368 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: rain after a game. So that was not the best experience. 369 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: So your family, your kids are like middle school age 370 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: at this point in time, right, Were they in the motion? 371 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: Were they still back in to them? They were in 372 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: the first year. They didn't come because I told him 373 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: the emotion is a crazy place. Obviously, every six months 374 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: the year you get fired, had a great year. Next 375 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: year they come up. Wife. My wife got their probably November, 376 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: middle of November. I got fired into the end of December, 377 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: January or something like that. So she was there about 378 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: a month. So did you immediately get another job or 379 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: did you sit out the rest of the year that 380 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: that year? I sat out. There's a year and then 381 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: when I stay in the most took care of my 382 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: kids basically because they were they were playing for Lemos, 383 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: the youth teams and stuff that had to be weird, right, Oh, 384 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: that was very weird because I'd go to the so 385 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: the youth teams there, of the college age kids, my 386 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: son was still in high school, the oldest one of 387 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,239 Speaker 1: the youth playing in the college age kids, so they 388 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: played before the pro the pro players. So I'd go 389 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: to get my son's games basically before the pro game 390 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: and let's seek out for the program started. But but 391 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: it was it was a little weird. In Lemos. You 392 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: walk down the street, it's it's a basketball town, so 393 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, you get gas, the baker, you do whatever, 394 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: and everyone can recognize you and it's the basically only 395 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: thing to do there, and so it was hard to 396 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: stay there. But yeah, unless you're exactly inconspicuous, I grew 397 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: up here, put out some glasses. Nobody would ever know, right, 398 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: it just looked like some little little dude. It's not 399 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: exactly easy easy to hide. Okay, so then we're next. 400 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: But so I sat out that year and then uh, 401 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: well the springtime of that year, actually I had a job, 402 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: another good French job that the president said, Yes, the 403 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: GM said, yes, the contract was sent. I signed a 404 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: pre contract anyways, basically a few days and for us 405 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: was to sign a real contract. But I was recruiting players. 406 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: I was starting to the gym every day messages. Anyways, 407 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: they reneged on it. The GM reneged on it for 408 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: some reason I still don't know. Anyways, So I got 409 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 1: totally screwed on that one, and uh and that one 410 00:21:55,800 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: with and then eventually ended up in Japan. Okay, So 411 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: but didn't you was it Lamos? When did you have 412 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: you had one of the kids that was drafted right? Yeah, yeah, 413 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 1: he's now with Lakers to eight though, I think right 414 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: by the way playing for Miles Simon. There's your there's 415 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: your world coming full circle. Um, So what was that 416 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: like for you? You're coaching a kid who, like you're told, 417 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: is going to be an NBA draft pick. You've seen 418 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: it all, done it all. What did you think, like, 419 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: what did you think of him in terms of that 420 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: part of his development and and what he could be 421 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: coming into Lemos When he was younger he was I mean, 422 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: people were talking about when he was sixteen seventeen, talking 423 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 1: about him being you know, the number one, big, number two, 424 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: big one of the best players ever come out of 425 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: Europe and so he came to Lemos or that type 426 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: of hype where he's supposed to be basically top five 427 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: big and so U he came to Leeve. So I 428 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: was a good opportunity for me obviously to to coach 429 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: him and to have him there. And uh, I mean 430 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: athletically physically and athletically that's that's why he had the hype. 431 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: And he's incredibly physically gifted. H Yeah, you just can't 432 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: do things that like I've never seen before for especially 433 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: for his age he was eighteen whatever, and uh so 434 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: you know, I'm getting drafted I think there's a lot 435 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: of pressure on me too, because obviously with his agents, 436 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: you know, you play him. Uh you know what, he 437 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: was young and we had a good team, so the 438 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: whole goal is obviously to win. But then you have 439 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: this pressure on the team too with the buyouts, ABA 440 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: buyouts and big money. So you know, you one game 441 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: played ten minutes, we win the game by twenty, you know, 442 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, thirty minutes later, I get 443 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: a phone call from his Asian or the g M 444 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: A He's gotta play a little bit more. You know, 445 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of stuff writing on this. You know, 446 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: it's like, but we won the game by twenty he's 447 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: gotta play. So it was different management thing too, as 448 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: far as management the other good players we had, as 449 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: well as trying to get in minutes and and growing 450 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: him as a player too. So during this time, teams 451 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: getting recruited, right, So what what was your what was 452 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: the like? What'd you tell him? Like? How did you 453 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: how did you help me? Like you gotta him make 454 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: their own decision and you were very much an independent thinker. 455 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: You're still an independent thinker. And I know he's like 456 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: the the input from a dad France an American, very 457 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: very different. What was you input? Like? Okay, okay, the 458 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: Two Sons game is probably a little bit more French 459 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: than my English youngest one, so I think game. And 460 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: of course he fell in love for the first time 461 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: and he knows that year, so I think him probably 462 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: in the beginning of I kind of pushed him to 463 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: go to the States because I wanted to continue his 464 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: education because in France in Europe, basically once you're done 465 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: with the high school stuff, if you continue playing, you 466 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: basically stopped school and you you concentrate on basketball. So 467 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: I really wanted him to continue his education for him 468 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: with his girlfriend who was playing really well. The themost 469 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: team was gonna off from a pro contract and to 470 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: practice the pros, play with pros, kind of like a 471 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: long term thing. And I think if I would have 472 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: left it totally up to him, he probably would have 473 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: stayed in France because he wasn't an American dreaming, and 474 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: uh so I pushed him a little bit. And then 475 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: once Craig Neal was in Monaco at the time, coaching 476 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: the young kids in Monico, and that's how he saw 477 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: Kane and got him to Nevada the first years for 478 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: my youngest son, he's an American dream and he's all 479 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: in on Jacob's uh you know, the more of the 480 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: American side and how good is how good is Jacob 481 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: comparison to King Jacob can play. He's he's at Miramar 482 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: Community College, so like he's suffering through the coronavirus a 483 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: little bit because he basically didn't play a game for 484 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: a year and a half and uh, you know, so 485 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: that I basically had no tapes on him. But I'm 486 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: sure he'll be a hopefully in the division one some 487 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: day and playing and he's tall, learned the best six seven, 488 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: almost six eight, but like this year the junior college coach, 489 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna playing one through five. You can play 490 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: big guy, you can play guard, you can do a 491 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: lot of things. Is the ultimate goal for both of 492 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: them to play back in France? Uh? Yeah, the third 493 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: for sure, I think. I think so. So I still 494 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: kind of been everywhere, but I still chrished the education thing. 495 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: So Jacob, for example, he's talked about being the doctors 496 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: and if you can be a doctor and maybe a 497 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: little bit better and playing overseas. But but so we'll see. 498 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: I'll let them choose whatever. Obviously. After that, what do 499 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: you like is a parent? Like last year, can'st at Nevada? 500 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: Like when you watch the games? How do you handle 501 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: in terms of your desire for your son to play? 502 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: But then you're also a coach, right, so you have 503 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: that kind of perspective of it. Yeah, what was I 504 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: was up a lot of times on uh five in 505 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: the morning watching games, that's for sure, And uh, I 506 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: can say and it's stupid with the core. I couldn't 507 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: be there in person. I wish I could be there more. 508 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: But Washington played no one what you can do. And 509 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: then Nevada was a little frustrating because you always played 510 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: with like a break on, but because he grew up 511 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: in the Europe making the nexte past and making you know, 512 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: playing team ball, and Nevada was basically, uh, you know, 513 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: if you got the ball, you better shoot it. And 514 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: so uh he uh, he played. He had fun, but 515 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: it's always uh stressful watching your son play or whatever. 516 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: So um okay, So when did you get to Japan? 517 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: Last year? Made to Yokohama. So what were you doing 518 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: during when COVID when everything was shut down two years ago? 519 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: Then what are you? Yeah, last year or two years 520 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: and two years ago? So what are yeah, what are 521 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: you doing with that COVID? When COVID first hit, I 522 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: was home in Francer, so there I was doing not 523 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: so that was that. That was a little moos yere No, 524 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: that was after So I I went one year basically 525 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: with no job. So you didn't you did nothing for 526 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: a year and that was the year that day had COVID. Yeah, oh, 527 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: so you didn't miss anything. What do you do with 528 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: your time? Just just your son? Yeah, A lot, a 529 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: lot of walks, a lot of in France for those 530 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: three months, three or four months while you're supposed to 531 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: be locked up in the house. You can't even like, well, 532 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: you can go to the grocery store. That's about it. 533 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: So it was. It was long. So I got pulled 534 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: over by the cops for walking my dog outside and 535 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: it's like, well, what are you doing, trans but what 536 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: are you doing outside? I'm walking the dog. Dog gotta 537 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: take a ship And he's like, yeah, you got a house. 538 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: Apartment was like a house talking going to the mouth 539 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: through I take a ship in the house. I was 540 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: like like, come on, man, So I got a ticket. 541 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: I got having thirty five year old ticket house probably 542 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: four outside my house. You got a hundred thirty five 543 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: year old ticket for taking your dog and taken down closer. Yeah, 544 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: so it was it was long. Now in France, like 545 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: in America, most people pick up after their dogs. In France, 546 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: do you always have to bring that? You bring the bag? 547 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: Because I'm question, man, it's everything's clean. What's what's the 548 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: French culture? Like people most people who cleaned up after 549 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: their dogs in the cities on the city streets. But 550 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: we live kind of even the countryside. Yeah, we're on 551 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: the basically I walked my dog through wine fields. He fertilizes, 552 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: she fertilizes the So if I have so, if I 553 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: have a bottle of chardonnay, I just I can. I 554 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: can sit there and go like, that's really good. It's 555 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: probably Kyle Mullin's dog look like a little little labrador, 556 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: a little labrador mixing a little little little labrador. Um. Okay, 557 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: So you get to Japan. What's it like coaching in Japan? 558 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: I love it because, uh, well, one one, I mean, 559 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: there's always stressed to win, but there's probably a little 560 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: bit less stress. But the players there's a lot less egos, 561 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot less attitudes to manage, and uh, as 562 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: far as uh telling them what to do and getting 563 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: them to do it, it's a lot easier and uh 564 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: and the respectful I mean in France and here in Japan. 565 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: And you lose the game, and I've had many times 566 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: when the players come up, sorry, sorry, coach Starry and 567 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: apologize my fault, my fault. You know, I was like, no, 568 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: it's okay, it's how your faulting. The team's fallow. No, 569 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: it's my fault, my fault. No, we're in Europe, you know, 570 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: it's you lose a game, it's coach's fault. Yes, Now, 571 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: what is your view on American style versus the foreign 572 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: style in terms of like my perspective has always been 573 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: since I when I started traveling, playing overseas, whatever, and 574 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: then anytime a coach there is like they respect the 575 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: athleticism and the American player, but they don't actually respect 576 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: the way those guys play. Is that a fair Like 577 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: you watching the Olympics, you know, and we can say, hey, 578 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: they didn't send run at whatever. There's still plenty of 579 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: good players, but those games were really competitive, and that 580 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: kind of fee into that, hey, our style is actually 581 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: better basketball. Yeah, no, it's uh, that's basically I mean, 582 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: if you watch it, I mean that's you know, I 583 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: probably agree. You watch you know, the Spain team, the 584 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: French team, check team whatever, play and you watch American 585 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: As far as quality of basketball, it's it's night and day. 586 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: But the Americans obviously they have more athleticism and more talent, 587 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: but the game, the game is completely different. So you know, 588 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: you put those some of those European players in the 589 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: NBA game probably a different show too, whatever, you know, 590 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: So I think the international they put the top American 591 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: EuroLeague players, but then with the USA jersey on the Olympics, 592 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: they probably win by thirty year. I agree. I agree. 593 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: You find the best guys that have played in Europe 594 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: that understand the game, the physicality of it. And what 595 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: I always find interesting now is twenty years ago it was, oh, 596 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: the Europeans are soft when they come to the NBA 597 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: or you know, European basketball soft. And now people basically 598 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: saying you watched the USA team plays, Oh, yeah, and 599 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: the NBA players are soft. The Upans are beating them up. 600 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: You know. It was like, that's a big, big, big change. Um. You, 601 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: any time I've seen a picture of you, a video 602 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: of you, you always go black suit, white shirt, black tie, right, 603 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: are you a madman guy? Like, where does that come from? 604 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: That's not a black tie, but it's I'm classic dark suit, 605 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: white shirt. In this year, we have a team tie 606 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: we gotta wear, but also like a red tie, blue tie. Yeah. Now, 607 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: how are you on officials here in Japan? Easy? France? 608 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: I was a little harder, Uh yeah, but I always 609 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: make up a joke after it. So I wasn't a 610 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,719 Speaker 1: big TA guy, but I'd write them and then uh, 611 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, good good. Throw some humor in there. So 612 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: French human helped. Huh French humor, Yeah, French huber humber. 613 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: What here was something like? French humor different than American 614 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,479 Speaker 1: Like we're very we're very arcastic in basketball, you're very 615 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: sarcastic to talk to you guys talk a lot of ship, right, 616 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: but you gotta be careful and you know who you're Like, 617 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: what's French humor like, it's it's I'm kind of sarcastic, 618 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: but French humor overall is a lot different. We can 619 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: watch a movie with my wife and French on what 620 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't like to do it, but it should be 621 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: Dye laughing, should be die laughing. I'll be watching It's 622 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: not funny. It was, but it's different. So I I 623 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: I write them, but then make jokes. We're here in Japan. 624 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: There's such a respect thing that that's when my wife 625 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: and my mom she watches you know, some games online 626 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: and France am sure to be drenched. I'd be read. 627 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: My mom always about to have a heart attack or something. 628 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: She watches the game in Japan and I'm sitting my 629 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: face is you know, not read. I'm not sweating. I'm 630 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: not screaming and yelling, but there's a whole thing too 631 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: or like that just doesn't work here either. You know. 632 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: So the coaches who some foreign coaches have come here 633 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: and they you know, they keep that European mentality, they 634 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: basically don't last because there's such a respect. You respect 635 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: their reps. There's no ship talking. The players don't talk 636 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: shit here. That's looked down upon. You know, the player 637 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: falls down, the other player will pick them up. And uh, 638 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: you know so American players who are talking and talking 639 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: ship that that doesn't work here either. So it's it's 640 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: a whole respect thing, respecting your respecting your opponent, respecting 641 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: your abously, respecting their respecting the people who are on 642 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: the tables, the score clocks. Um, how's the sushi. It's incredible. 643 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: It's more Toshima because like everything, like my favorite sushi 644 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: spot and Sego. You know, they've got all these different 645 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: kinds of roles, all these twists, uh, wrapped, all these 646 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: different guys of wraps and stead. So I showed the 647 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: Japanese guys a picture of the sushi and that is 648 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 1: my favorite spot. There's what is that? It's like my sushi. 649 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: So it's all slashimi pretty much. She they've got a 650 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: few rolls and stuff, but they're not big on roll 651 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: They're just basically straight different slices of the tuna, different 652 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 1: slices of the salmon, different slices. Uh, you know, basically 653 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,959 Speaker 1: basically sushimi. But all the other food here is incredible, okay, 654 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: So when they so okay, so the foods incredible? What 655 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: else is incredible in Japan food west food wise? Yeah, 656 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: all there, but then meat period, like chicken, the different 657 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: kinds of fish, soups and salads every well last year, 658 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: last year I lost about ten or fifteen pounds dated 659 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: back when I got back to the States in France 660 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: this year about ten already, so um okay. So when 661 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: you like, when they bring it, is there anything like here? 662 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: You know, you have the ginger and you have the wasabi, 663 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: and you got the little thing, and we think like 664 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: that's how you eat in Japan? How do you eat 665 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: pass sushi restaurant? How you pretty close to say at 666 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: the sabi and the soy sauce, little dips and stuff. 667 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: But ever everything's a little smaller like place and hotels, 668 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: you you know, a little little tice side dish, uh, 669 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: solid little tice side dish and totally a little tice 670 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: side dishes. Everything smaller, so you have these big servings 671 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: or you know anything. So it's it's also delicate and 672 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: nice little dishes, these little pretty dishes, you know. I think, 673 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: how do you have you picked up in the language? 674 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: You know? So I started taking lessons about it. Last 675 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: year I didn't pick up too much because I don't 676 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: know if I had stay much. I actually had a 677 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: job in France and I thought I was gonna go, 678 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: and then I ended up not going. So this year 679 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: I started taking lessons. So I try to learn a word, 680 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: every new phrase or whatever a few days and try 681 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: to say practice for the guys, create a little uh 682 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: humor again, or some jokes with the guys or whatever. 683 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: So it's hard, but you're sound like you're enjoying yourself, 684 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: like it's it's no I can't enjoyed here. Hopefully my 685 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: wife will be here soon because last year she couldn't 686 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: get it as a corona. This year, so right now, 687 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: my wife's in France, my boys are our boys are 688 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: in America all over, but she shouldn't be hearing. About 689 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: two to three weeks. The beast has gone through so 690 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: she should be coming soon. So um, okay, how about 691 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: this if there's one place in France that an American 692 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: should go. Okay, everybody knows the basic spots, but for 693 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: my guy who's been American that's becoming a nationalized Francistan, 694 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: where should I go? Well, I like the southwest region 695 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: a lot. There you go are there, you go, there, 696 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: you go, there, you go south and near Pole, near 697 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: Pole area a little bit north because you got the 698 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: you got the old French countryside, the little city streets. 699 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 1: But the weather is nice, the food is probably the best. 700 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 1: I would say in France, what time of year I'll go? 701 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: Spring and fall? Summertime to me, maybe not now to tourists, 702 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: but two tourists. It's hot, but there's not a lot 703 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: of air conditioning and a lot of places, so I 704 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: no I was gonna drink all that stuff. And spring, uh, 705 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: spring and fall, like most places, in June, June or 706 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: September the best France, even if you go to the 707 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: French River are if you go there September June. I mean, 708 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: the weather is beautiful, there's no tourists or less tours 709 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: as old elderly and retired people out. But those the 710 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: best times of years. If can you imagine if you 711 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: told your sixteen or seventeen year old self, like, when 712 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: we're in Vegas, it's me, you and Matt Purdy and 713 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: you're you're feeding me my first beer? Right? Can you 714 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: imagine if you pulled yourself aside and said, Hey, this 715 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: is what the next thirty years year of your life, 716 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna look like you're gonna go to Santa Barbara, 717 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: okay and live on the fucking beach, but then not 718 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: be happy transfer go up to Oregon like it, Hey, 719 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: then you go to Belgium and then go to France 720 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: and then go to Lebanon and then get get back 721 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: to France and get married and have kids and play 722 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: in one place for a while, and then come and 723 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: then come back to the States and be a teacher, 724 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 1: and then go back to France and be an assistant 725 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: coach and head coach, and then go to Japan and 726 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: be a coach. Like that's an amazing ride, right, Yeah, 727 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: I know, it's it's pretty crazy. Actually high schools to 728 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 1: tell one of my friends, I'm gonna marry a woman 729 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: with an accident. I don't know why it's but I 730 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: always want to marry women with an accident, So I did. 731 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: And I've been packing my bags for basically, uh what, 732 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: We're twenty years now and I'm telling my uncle's a 733 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: few uh a few months ago, and I've been doing 734 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: it for twenty years and I some years. Oh, you're 735 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 1: not gonna settle down sometime, I don't think. So. I 736 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: love moving around and uh and I was feeling my 737 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: bags still be uh ready to go pretty much for 738 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: the next every many years. Is there any more? Are you? Like? 739 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: Do you want to do Australia? Do you want to 740 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: do Spain? I want to do Italy? Like what else? What? 741 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,439 Speaker 1: What's on the places I want to go and coach? 742 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: I think I would like to stay in Asia somewhere, 743 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 1: maybe even the different country in Asia. And Alice would like, 744 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 1: hopefully someday to get like Saudi Arabia or the Cutar 745 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: the big money, the big money and the player different 746 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 1: style of basketball. Do you want to pick your boys? Maybe? Yeah, 747 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean I've done it before. There at least one 748 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: would you like to coach? You only pick one? Which 749 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: one do you want to coach? Probably the oldest one, 750 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: because the youngest one he has too much attitude. Every 751 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: time I tell him to do something, he always has 752 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: a response, maybe listen to me a little bit more, 753 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: or Jacob, he's already told me that off a few times. 754 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: I've tried to tell the stuff, so you may do 755 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: it against what separates you as a coach. I don't know. 756 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: I think I always try to. I say sometimes I 757 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: try to manage my teams like I would manage maybe 758 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: like if I ran a restaurant or any type of 759 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: business where you've got all different jobs and roles. But 760 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: I think all the successful businesses you you treat, you 761 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: try to treat all your employees in the same manner. 762 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: So I think I have a lot of compassion. I hope. 763 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: I think I do for all my players, and I 764 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: try to, you know, treat the tent the tent guy 765 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: on the team that role just as important as the 766 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: first guy, so not a new guy in favorites. And 767 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: I feel like I think, whatever the players like to 768 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: play for me, and they give me their best, And 769 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,919 Speaker 1: because I think I try, I do. I care about 770 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: them and I showed the compassion and care for them, 771 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: and I think that helps to get them to give back. 772 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: But you're also coaching grown men, so do you do 773 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: you have coffee with them? You got to dinner with them? 774 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: Or is it when you show up the gym you 775 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: know we're here and then otherwise, you know, how do 776 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: you handle the relationship aspect of it? I think as 777 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: I've gotten more experience, I've gotten a lot. In the beginning, 778 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: it was like a player coach. That's kind of the 779 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: old school thing. But as I've gotten a little bit 780 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: more experience, uh, you know, I've got to I'll eat 781 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: with some of the players or you know, trying to 782 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 1: get to know them more and more. They're off the 783 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: court stuff for families, the people and basically you know, 784 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: on the court's business off the courts friend if not 785 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: sun and almost type of relationship where where we talk 786 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: about whatever and anything, and uh, treat them like a 787 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: man and the person and just like I hope they 788 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: look at me in the same way as Um, Okay, 789 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: are you still a Charger fan? Most people from San 790 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: Diego hate the Chargers because the Chargers left. Are you 791 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: still a charge of fan? A lot less, that's for sure. Yeah, 792 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: it's finely a little Mary. When they were losing, You're 793 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: like when they lose, it's like, oh yeah, losing and 794 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: now where they win, it's like that old nose, the 795 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:21,919 Speaker 1: charge left they got they got justin Herbert's an Oregon 796 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: guy at quarterback can be a fan. I know. I 797 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: think they looks like they gotta going again now. I 798 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: think with a good coaching staff and uh we all 799 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: love him. I wish they would have had that in 800 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: San Diego and build a new stadium there. But maybe 801 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 1: some day to get a team back. Is home France, 802 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: or is home San Diego. It's hard to see home 803 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: home still San Diego. Okay when France, how about this 804 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: one France was playing Team USA this summer. M hm, 805 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,359 Speaker 1: inside your soul, who are you cheering for? You would 806 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: say you sure, yeah, because I got a lot of friends. 807 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: The French fan US a talking ship. It was more 808 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: than the type of thing when yeah, we still got 809 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: the most was still number one team basically, So I 810 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 1: still too cheered for the USA. Best player you ever 811 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: played against. It's hard going back right now. Okay, I'll 812 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: share with you a story here real quick. Okay, so 813 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: college maybe, yeah, in college he was the beast. I 814 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: just remember. So I played in the Magic's roundball Chohnce 815 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: Belps got hurt so I was in a replacement for him. 816 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: So he practiced all week and Kevin Garnett shows up 817 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: the day of the game and like tref on the Shree, 818 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,879 Speaker 1: Vince Carter, you know, Stefan Marbury, like all these guys 819 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: are sucking ballers. This is high school. They're all ballers. 820 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: They're all really good. Robert Trailer, best in peace and 821 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: KG shows up the day of the game and like 822 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: as good as everybody is, he was better. You know, 823 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 1: it was like it was clothes. He was just so 824 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: big and so long and so athletic. You know it 825 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: wasn't really skilled at that point in time, but just 826 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: an absolute freak. And you know I can think of 827 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,839 Speaker 1: you know, in college, like you know, when he played 828 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: against Ray Allen. I was in my first my year 829 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: in the Big East, had four teams in the top 830 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: top ten and Iver Soon was in the league. But 831 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 1: Round was better than everybody else, like just better, Um, 832 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: is there anything can Obviously the Shriek would be that 833 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: guy with Benny. I remember, he's one of the decent 834 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: defensive player. I mean I remember playing at least once 835 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: or twice and I couldn't stop in fadeaways and moose 836 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: smooth doing everything when he's a cow there and Uh, 837 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: as far as one player who I knew, I didn't, 838 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't stop him, was maybe him one on one 839 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: type stuff. Your favorite arena where Jim Arena in France? 840 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 1: France both what's it like? It's one of the nice 841 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: arena so it's big. It's more American type style. That's um, 842 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 1: what's your guy's name? Stu an American group bought it 843 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: with Patinos in the group with Mashburn. But it's Uh, 844 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: it's an American type style. It's really big and super nice. 845 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: And you know the crowd. The crowd is okay, but 846 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: there as far as just the arena and everything, it's 847 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: as far as crowd emotions, by the number one, the 848 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: emotion crowds sick, so you couldn't hear yourself think or 849 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: talk most of the time. Does anything compared to Mac 850 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: mac Court, Uh, Mac probably number one. But I would 851 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 1: say Lemos when he was going could rival with it 852 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 1: because Lemos has a roof that level you can't see 853 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: Colin caves, so the sound so you can hear him channing. 854 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: We can also hear them booming because they move a 855 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: lot to do. That was at the end. That was 856 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 1: that was that was good all the time you started game. 857 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,439 Speaker 1: Youther to score eight? Oh run and start the game. 858 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: Also do you start booing? But that's just the way 859 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: they artist way so cut throat, therapist, awesome stuff. This 860 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: was this was amazing. This was really cool. Plus you boys, 861 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 1: I get a chance to to see it and and 862 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: watch some and I wanna, I wanna, I wanna watch 863 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: your team play a little bit and then maybe do 864 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: this a little bit more later on the year. Is 865 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 1: that cool? Yeah, no problem. Yeah, we're starting off pretty good, 866 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 1: so fun as you were seven and two. So if 867 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 1: we can keep it going. Uh, how different is is that? 868 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 1: Like the one good thing about Frances Like you know 869 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,720 Speaker 1: all the teams and all the styles and all the systems. 870 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: Is it catching up on that when you switch countries? 871 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 1: How hard is that? The first year? It was very 872 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: hard because I tried in the beginning last year to 873 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 1: bring a lot of the European game here, the pick 874 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: and roll pick at all, basically no post up. Yeah 875 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 1: we're here in the game. It's not all post up, 876 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 1: but the Merritly and import players that are basically all 877 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: big guys, so they need the ball usually have you 878 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: had a couple of true centers or picking a roll 879 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 1: they're not very good at, but you put them back 880 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: to the basket. So I basically flip flopped everything. You know. 881 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: Defensively too, you have Japanese players are fast, but they're 882 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: not as big and long as physical, so like you see, 883 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,720 Speaker 1: can switch basically at all. And uh, you can't screens. 884 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 1: I hedge. I hedge ball screen. A lot of people 885 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 1: put ice because they have these bigger import players, but 886 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: I like hedge, so we tried this year. I can't 887 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: hard edge. I have one guy Greg at Shuniki with 888 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: the yeah yeah, you know, he has a little bit 889 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: of hard time hedge, and but he's he has good 890 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: feet anyway's getting better and better at it. But so 891 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: I hedge most of ball screens, you know, switching it's 892 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 1: really late, so the style of plays different. So this 893 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: year has helped me because after one year of doing 894 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: it in Japan, I kind of know the style a 895 00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,080 Speaker 1: little bit more. So, hey man, thank you for doing it. 896 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for turn me onto beer at a very 897 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: young age. Right, good thing. You see, your your secrets 898 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: are out now. I gotta planets in France to go 899 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: and visit. I'm gonna come and stay with you. Apparently 900 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: now nobody's staying there except for your wife, but she leaves. 901 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go and and stay stay. You're playing crash 902 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 1: exactly open house. But thanks for joining me. I appreciate, 903 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 1: appreciate it. I see you're the best. Well, that was 904 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: a lot, and um, you know, it's one of those 905 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: things where I hope you have as much fun and 906 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: listening as I do in and having these talks. Look, 907 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 1: there's a lot of basketball stuff to get to. College 908 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 1: basketball teams starting to play their exhibition games. First games 909 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: of the season, Uh start on Tuesday, that's the ninth 910 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: of November. We'll have all those games, and of course 911 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: I'll do an emergency pod. I think I gotta do 912 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 1: an NBA pod, maybe recorded this weekend. I'll drop before 913 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 1: those games next week, just so we can talk about 914 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 1: the mess that is the Lakers and how fixable their 915 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: issues are. My man Colin Cowherd made the statement that 916 00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 1: the East is better than the West. We'll discuss that 917 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 1: as well. 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