1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: All right, man, we're back another one for episode of 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: The Club five twenty podcasts. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 3: I'm the house. My name is DJ. 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: Well's special special guests in the building. To my left, 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: we're gonna introduce my man's last one. To my far left, 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: we got my dog. 8 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 4: They should be hearing out the pear LEAs how you 9 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 4: was nasty. 10 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: Let's get to it. 11 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 4: I know you always keep your feet proper. Now he 12 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 4: showing out to that, and you know what. 13 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying, he's not playing. He ain't playing with him today, 14 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: but normally he and the black forces with the white license. 15 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what I'm saying. 16 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: You from p A T. 17 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, when you see the black forces down there with that. 18 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: Means we don't really do The Black forces is the 19 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: bad thug niggas and the white forces the pretty boys like, 20 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: we don't do that. It's either in you or it's not. 21 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, regardless what you got on. 22 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: But the forces I wasn't as big as air Max 23 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: where I'm from, we used to wear the ax. 24 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, ninety five, that was big. 25 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: The force wasn't this big coming up in pa Okay, Okay, 26 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: all black ninety fives. 27 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 3: Or is that straight? And he called him ninety five. Yeah, 28 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: especially the rebels. 29 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, yuh tell me right, my dog, you're not show 30 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 5: young tig how you are man chilling bro hype man. 31 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 5: We got somebody in here that's kind of like an 32 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 5: inspiration us. He started the pile, they got the pore started, 33 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 5: They rolling got their whole. They taking over everything, all 34 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 5: the smoke productions everywhere. 35 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 1: So it's hape to have somebody in here. 36 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 5: That we kind of look up to in the podcast 37 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 5: and with Joe and Gilly and all those too, So 38 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 5: it's gonna be a good show for. 39 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: Us for show listen, you know, as a patience, Man, 40 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: I'm locked in but waiting for this episode man for 41 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: Shore come time, boy. 42 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I can't wait till we get to it. 43 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 2: Come on, man, we got a ba hip, like you said, 44 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: all the smoke him and Max showed the way for 45 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: this podcast game man, we got stack Jack and the 46 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: billing Steve Jackson. 47 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 4: Appreciate you putting big. 48 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me man, and good y'all y'all 49 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: flowers too. Y'all y'all created a nice show and made 50 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: a lot of way in a short time. Every time 51 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: I look on social media, I see something from y'all 52 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: show trending, So that mean y'all doing something right. So Man, 53 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm honest to be on y'all show man. 54 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: Definitely, Man, appreciate you to like you said, Man, I 55 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: love podcasting, man, especially in the sports situation. 56 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 4: All the smoke knuckle heads. 57 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: Like y'all was the ones right there, you know, to 58 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: help pave the white for us to be in the situation. Man, 59 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: So shout out to y'all man for being trail bases 60 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: in the Man. We gotta start off with a question, man, Yeah, 61 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying. We talked about the force. 62 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: You and Jordan brad athlete your chairs for so solution. 63 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm the threes and fours guy. Yeah, threes and fours 64 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: is my ship, you know. They it's just the most 65 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: comfortable one. And actually, you know when I that's what 66 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: I played in. I played in threes and four. So 67 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: that's just my go to I rock the ones now 68 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: because you know that's the most. That's the shoot. They 69 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: sent us the most. We have every one. You know, 70 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: they might not send all the flaship, but they gonna 71 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: send you every Jordan's one you know what I'm saying. 72 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: But for the most part, threes and fours, Soure. 73 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 4: We know you was hooping in the protegees and you 74 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 4: got to the to the joord. 75 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: But look at you. I played them ship. Let me 76 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: tell you what's about the protegee Shout out, shout, don't 77 00:02:53,800 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: shout out at the same time, Bro, every quarter of 78 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: the game. If you want to know what moves I 79 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: made on the court, all you had to do is 80 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: look because the black ship from the shoes. Then each 81 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: quarter I'm tearing a hole in each paradog. I played 82 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: no shoes for like six months. After that. I had 83 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: bone spurs in my foot for three years fucking with 84 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: them protegees, trying to be lawyer in my homeboy. We 85 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: made a little bread off of it, but it was 86 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: not worth it. 87 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: Bro, I'm telling it wasn't worth it. Go through the 88 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 2: crazy shoe wrikings. We're gonna put in the protegee. We 89 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: never got put in the Starberris. 90 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: They made by the same people them gave out the plug. 91 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: Oh so I didn't know that. No, Steph did it. 92 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: He gave a flooded like Jake. I think we could 93 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: do it too it. Let's try it, hey, and it 94 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: didn't work. That's how the dope game works. 95 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: I ain't know. 96 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: Subber was a plug that changed a lot. Now step 97 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: but step Ate. Steph made some good money and he's 98 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: still making good money. He just started Xavier threes for 99 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: a son in China to it. They're doing pretty good 100 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: as well. Shout the stuff man, shout the step that's crazy. 101 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: Were talking about the Triple Bes that nobody got their shoes. 102 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: He was like, they was us still waiting on them. 103 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm still waiting on my Triple Be. The ball that 104 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: ship was way better than Page. I'm sorry. Nothing was 105 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: wanting them protoge unless she went some sketches out there. 106 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: They were in schedules. Now he was trying to get 107 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: a deal with it. They were like in the were 108 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: lock in with me. They got they got Joel and 109 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: bid though they straight and niggas with anything. 110 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: Now they're paying. Yeah, they're paying niggas around and. 111 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: Stagging and staggering. We talked about going viral, and one 112 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: time I said something about Michael Jackson. Everybody killed me. 113 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 5: I said, Drake seeing just as good as Michael something 114 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 5: like that. That ain't what I meant. 115 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: It was a long night. 116 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: It was long week, it was a long night, so 117 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: it came it came out wrong though, But you was 118 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: all like you were crazy, like this nigga, crazy nigga 119 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: say anything. Man you had, you had went crazy. He 120 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: d m me Michael Jackson songs for like the whole day. 121 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, Bro, I was just drunk, bro, Like, you 122 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: know what, It's funny because it's funny and I do 123 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: remember that now, but it's funny because people are people. 124 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,239 Speaker 1: Do really compare Chris Brown and Drake to Michael Jackson, 125 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: Like as far as starts and starts starting, you know 126 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I would be I would say this, 127 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: Chris Brown is by far the closest thing to Michael Ja. Absolutely, 128 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And if you had to 129 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: have a Michael in hip hop, Yeah, I was wild 130 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: and I always admit I want to be Drake. 131 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 6: I'll step in now. See see you just talking about stardom. 132 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 6: That liquor was kicking his ass. He's talking about vocally. Absolutely, 133 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 6: I didn't want you to tap back in, but you 134 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 6: tap back in. But y'all, y'all went in because you 135 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 6: dre shot us cool and Dre. I'm big on music, 136 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 6: roll up music too, but I'm tapped in with y'all. 137 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 6: You know what I mean, background and body at work. 138 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 6: But they said something that you was right. It just 139 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 6: I made my nay dms go crazy. 140 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: I was just tripped. I was just like, so cool 141 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: and Dre send me the acapella and everything. 142 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 3: You know, really no music. 143 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm just tipsy, bro, just talking shit. Bro, that weren't 144 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: even posted to go nothing like. 145 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: That was not real. 146 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: If somebody, if you have to pick somebody that could 147 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: be close to Mike vocal, who would you pick? Male 148 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: or female? Because I think it's for me. It's only 149 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: one female that I can think that's closer to Mike 150 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: and vocals. 151 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: You're gonna say, Whitning Houston. 152 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, that's it. Bro. 153 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: We locked in. 154 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 5: We had Joe Button on the podcast. He said, you 155 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 5: don't mention music no more like you done. So I'm 156 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 5: gonna just be done. I'm gonna be done. 157 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: Shout out Drake, shout out Mike. 158 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 2: Make it so funny, you know what i'maying. We' from Indiana. 159 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: So for you to make that type with the two 160 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: one nine. 161 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: They was hot. Oh yeah, everybody who is the biggest rappit. 162 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: From and then gives so far we don't have Yeah, 163 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: he dropping the products Gibbs too. 164 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 6: I want to I want to go back to the 165 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 6: you know what I mean to the beginning, Poor Arthur sir, 166 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 6: who put the pill in your hands like when you 167 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 6: pick it up and frond a love for it. 168 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: So I grew up and put out the texts a 169 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: small town. 170 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: All my family worked the refinery, so I grew up 171 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: on the west side of my All my uncles, my cousin, 172 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: they all played basketball and the protect. You know, football 173 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: is big on Fridays, but when football is over, it's 174 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: that same energy transfers to basketball. So on Friday nights. 175 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: Growing up, there was one high school that we all 176 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: grew up went to. It's called Lincol High School. Everybody 177 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: have a Lincol High School and they used to win 178 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: state championships and grow up. So growing up I used 179 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: to watch them and go watch them play. So it 180 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: just I inherited from my uncles and cousins. But at 181 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: five years old, that's when they all knew I was good. 182 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: I had forty two points. I had forty points in 183 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: the forty two point game, and uh, yeah, I. 184 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: Say how many assistans? 185 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: No, I didn't know what. I didn't know what it 186 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: was back there, but five years old, forty points, we 187 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: had forty two another kid that he scored on the 188 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: other two. And after that game, I start getting treated different, 189 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, by coaches, by my uncles, 190 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: by everybody. And uh, I didn't know I had it 191 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: at the time. I just thought I was just taller 192 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: and I was more athletic. But that's when it started. 193 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 6: At uh damn, my memory kicking in a little bit 194 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 6: ninety five. Did y'all want to you led them to 195 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 6: the chip at Lincoln. 196 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: High School state championship? 197 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 198 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 6: That was your junior year, My junior year. Okay, how 199 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 6: was that? I want another question though, to just two part, 200 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 6: like I want you to talk about that. But is 201 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 6: it any other pros that come from Lincoln? 202 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: No, so BJ Tyler had a two year stint. He 203 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: would up going to Texas. Yeah, and he had a 204 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: two extent, but nobody. The crazy part about it is 205 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: is a town that's fifteen minutes away called Baumba, Texas, 206 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: and the high school coach I had at the year. 207 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: We want to state championship. Ended up getting another kid 208 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: that ended up going to high going out of high 209 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: school as well, and ended and went in the state 210 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: championship as well, Kendrick Perkins. So we got the same 211 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: high school coach, you, Yeah, we got the same time. 212 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 6: I'm talking about Kendrick dribbling down the street and at thirteen, 213 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 6: when he was sixteen fifteen, he was that big, but 214 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 6: he was getting it off the rim and bringing it 215 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 6: up like he had all that before he got the 216 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 6: Boston Now he had all that. 217 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: Bro Now I remember him with the unclean soldier. Him 218 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: and Borrow linked up as you like, Nah, he went 219 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: to the hospital. You got it. You gotta be nice. 220 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 3: So you just you just hoopedush your guys at Lincoln. 221 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: We don't want the chip, but yeah, like we had 222 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: the guys I played with. We've been knowing each other 223 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: from elementary all the way to high school. So leaving 224 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: them my SENI my senior year was something I didn't 225 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: want to do. What made coach Smith come grab you? 226 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: Well? 227 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: Josh Passler up being the coach for Memphis and Georgia Tech. 228 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: He was my AU coach. He was the same angor 229 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: as accident. Yeah, coach. That's crazy. 230 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was our coach. 231 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: Bro. He drove to my hometown. Let me till I 232 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: met Josh. So I was killing Texas basketball, but I 233 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: wasn't ranked too high. So he drove to my hometown 234 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: in the middle of the ghetto during the daytime where 235 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: it's crack being so nigga smoking all kind of shaft. 236 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: He pulls up by himself. Everybody back. I think it's 237 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: the police, like who are you looking for? And he 238 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: caused my name, So I'm like, I don't know. You 239 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: don't put me on the blast in front of the homies, 240 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. And he was like, nah, 241 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: my name is Josh Passler. I go to Kingwood to 242 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: have my own age. 243 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 3: How old are you? 244 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: Brothers, Like, I'm seventeen. Told me as AU team wanted 245 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: me to come play on this team. I'm like, Bro, 246 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: I ain't got no money, ain't no car, I can't 247 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: get to Houston. He drove Bro three times a week 248 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: from Houston, which is I wouldn't have picking me up. 249 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: I would have back to practice and I won't have 250 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: back then I won't have back to go to school. 251 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: The next day. He did this shit three times a 252 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: week just so I can have a chance to play 253 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: AAU basketball. And his dad had a relationship with he 254 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: worked for red He was a big wig in the 255 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: Red Cross and he had a relationship with Steve Smith. 256 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: So he started coming at AAU games. And Uh, I 257 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: remember trying out. This is the school year finish start, 258 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: and I'm on the football field running trying to for football. 259 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: I'm running routes. Got to pass on. I ain't thinking 260 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: about basketball yet. My mom coaching, my uncle come around 261 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: the corner. I'm like, ah, Ship, this can't be good. 262 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: Like take that shit off. You're going to Okill. I'm 263 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: going to Okill for what I want to we can 264 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: go back to back. I'm trying to say, like, nah, 265 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: your ass stay here, You're going to jail. You know 266 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Cause I stayed in trouble. I stayed 267 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: in trouble around that time, so I didn't see what 268 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: they was doing for me at the time. 269 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 270 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: I was hard, heited, I wanted to be home with 271 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: my friends, and uh, sending me okay was the best 272 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: thing that ever happened to me. That's crazy. 273 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: And we just had to move on saying, I know 274 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: we had a little bit of this conversation with who 275 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: your top five? You know, so who y'all started five? 276 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: You're taking oak Hill, Brandon Jennings, Okay, DJ at the one, 277 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: Rondo m hm, I'm sorry. I got to go small 278 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: BJ Ronald because they were just that good when it 279 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: was there. We're talking about Ed Okill, Yes, sir, h Nello, 280 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: Josh k d tough, that's that's crazy five. 281 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: I got to give you on though. Was the problem 282 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: too nasty Tripp monster. 283 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 4: And it's quite as kept he don't get spoken on that. 284 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 4: But no one was killed out there too. 285 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 3: Nolan is a winner, Yes, sir, you know what I'm saying. 286 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: Nolan is a winner. 287 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: Shout. I know, none as the one. You know, even 288 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: that dude, he brought the winning field. No, just a winner, 289 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: but he was solid. 290 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 2: Sure, we got to talk about it, man. One of 291 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: our favorite o gs, Mike Bibbie, that's my real brother. 292 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: That was when I first got my rookie year. He 293 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: was out. 294 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: Oh my god, people in the world. 295 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: Bro Let me let me tell you how close me 296 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: and Mike is. I My wife talked about natuation when 297 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: that I had it was end up getting married and 298 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: end up calling the wedding off at the right you 299 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: read to start because my wife was signed to my 300 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: fiance at the time, was signing the prenup and I 301 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: was hurt at the time, I was crying. Afterwards, I 302 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: was hurt because then all this stuff, my family was there. 303 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 3: It was just a lot on me. 304 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,599 Speaker 1: Mike Mom came and wiped snock from my nose and 305 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: from my face with a bad hands and told me 306 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: I became a man. That That's when I knew she 307 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: she really loved me. So for his mama to do 308 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: that to me, I let y'all know how tight we are. 309 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying That his mama is really 310 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: the reason why I made it to the NBA. 311 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: That's real. That's hard, bro. How did I even link 312 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: up though? 313 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: Like so high school, we both signed with Arizona, so 314 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: we both was going we had the number of recruiting 315 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: class that year, and the first semester I actually stayed 316 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: with him on campus because I couldn't pass the test. 317 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: I I wudn't even going to the I wasn't even 318 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: going actually to take it. I was just like, I'm 319 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to just give me the grade or something, 320 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: And I took the tests a couple of times and 321 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: still couldn't pass it. Where I end up after the 322 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: first semester, they had to kick me off campus. So 323 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: his mo mom had got together, was like, he can't 324 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 1: come back to put on like that, that ain't it? Like, 325 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: So she my mama, let me stay with her and 326 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: I worked out with his older brother Dane. They was 327 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: taking me to workout every day. And one morning she 328 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: woke me up like get your shoes, and Dange wasn't there, 329 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: so I'm like, what're we going? So like just get 330 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: your shoes and we in the car. She ended up 331 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: driving me to the Phoenix Sons Arena where they play 332 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: it now, and we walked them. I'm looking at her 333 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: like because when we drive in, like she didn't have 334 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: to say a name to you know, normally you got 335 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: to have a pass up. She just waved out and I'm. 336 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, poor like that his motherfucker my hard. 337 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. So we come down and pull and she know 338 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: she had had already talked to Danny Ainge and to 339 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: bring me down there to play pickup, and Jason Kidd 340 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: immediately embraced me. He ended up picking moments team and 341 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: that's when I was young, So I was catching lives 342 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: and all kinds of shit. I was going crazy in there. 343 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: Off high. I was high, and all that going I was. 344 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: I was wrong. And after I played, Danny ain't told 345 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: me that they had they had one pick in the 346 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: draft of the second to the last pick, but the 347 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: roster was full. But they're like, you know you played 348 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: well up today that we're gonna draft you and guarantee 349 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: you twenty fifty thousand, but we're gonna see you the CBA. Nigga, 350 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: I was drafted. In my mind, I'm in the league. 351 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: I didn't you get damn fifty thousand. All that Nigga's good, 352 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: let's go, you know what I'm saying. But once you 353 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: get in the dough, you notice tm J T. Once 354 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: you get in the dough, you good. And I got drafted. 355 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: I bounced overseas, but my name was in that system. 356 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. For getting drafted, that's all 357 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: I needed. And that all the Mike to Mike Mom, that's. 358 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: Dope, bro. I didn't know. Danna Angel said boss too. 359 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: That's one of the people I fried. You know, you 360 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: don't like to talk about it because you keep saying 361 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: we was on the same teams, like. 362 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: That's god man, But I fried, Like. 363 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: I feel like they said said if I didn't, I said, 364 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: I fried everybody else. 365 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: That was there. 366 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my dog, that's my dog. I had a 367 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: great day that day. I was young and hunger. I 368 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: had a great day that day. That's hard bro a 369 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: great day. How was that? 370 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 3: Overseas stint though? Like, where'd you go? 371 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: First? I went to I went to Venezuela. First, tell 372 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: you about my first day of Venezuela, which is crazy. 373 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: I get there automatically didn't go because you know, I've 374 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: never been out the country, being up a small time 375 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: and put off that. I like, I'm you're going to 376 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: Venezuela fresh out of high school, played basketball like my 377 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: mom was terrified. I get there the first day. They 378 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: picked me up and uh, they take me straight to practice. 379 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: And it's like a bridge probably like a mile ahead 380 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: of us. So now when we get to come around 381 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: the corner's the bridge is traffic. So everybody going slow. 382 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: So he he trying to figure out why is the traffic. 383 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: When we get to under bridge, it's a fourteen year old, 384 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: this small kid by fourteen fishes old land on the 385 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: ground here, just jumped off the bridge. That's my first 386 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: day up. So I'm looking out the window seeing the 387 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: dead body. My first day in Venezuela. Damn. I'm like, 388 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't tell you. I'm not gonna take 389 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: this ship. I can't. 390 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Call my ma, Mama, my mama. 391 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: G I'm like, Mama, as soon as I'll tell everything 392 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: I see, I'm like, I ain't even do that. She's like, 393 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: so what you're gonna come what You're gonna come back 394 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: home and do the ain't gonna be in miles you look. 395 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: So I'm like, damn, I. 396 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: Can't. I was. I was the food. I was bro 397 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: bro to be honest, I ode ill served at the 398 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: age of seventeen twice before I got to Mike sou 399 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: I was so I needed a lot of change. 400 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, A lot. 401 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: That's why I credit so many people, you know what 402 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying in my life because if I didn't have 403 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: all these people, I wouldn't be here right now. Real 404 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: yeah story right there. 405 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: So So when you actually got on the court, that 406 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: is crazy. 407 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: How was that though, and Venezuela was cool because you know, 408 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: I was playing basketball, I was making money. I wasn't 409 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: making much, you know what I'm saying. I wasn't with 410 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: my wife then, but I made thirty thousand dollars. The 411 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: women were so beautiful, and Venezuela I left all my 412 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: money that was doing. 413 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 3: I'm just keeping it. 414 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: I had never been out of the country, and you 415 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: take a little ghetto nigga from put Out bringing to 416 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: Venezuela where they breathed Miss Americas. You know what I'm saying, 417 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: I lost it. I don't keep poting. I lost. I 418 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: probably came back to like eight dollars, ten dollars. I 419 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: lived it all there, you know what I'm saying. A 420 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: brick of weed that had they say your brickle weed 421 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: had seeds in it. It was, but you like two 422 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: hundred dollars. So I was getting the chicken. I had 423 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: had to give me a pack of new Ports a box, 424 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: put all the cigarette the tobacco, and stuffed the weed 425 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: and all of them. 426 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: So I had packed some cigarettes. But when it was 427 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: all weed. 428 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: So I was enjoying myself out there. I was eighteen nineteen. 429 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do. I wasn't thinking about 430 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: saving no money and going home, nothing like that. 431 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 4: Bro. 432 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: It was. It was a great experience, but my mind 433 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: still was like, if I'm having fun here, imagine what 434 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have when I get to the league. Bro. 435 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 436 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 5: If I can enjoy this, I can enjoy anything. So 437 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 5: that's how I feel when I first went to Miami. Yeah, 438 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 5: I ain't going back to now. 439 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: I've heard a lot with oh No and you. Joe 440 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: just the best, said Lord, I like this stuff. 441 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 3: Overseas. 442 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: I've been bens wading for six months. I played two 443 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: years in Dominican Public Dominican Republic, won the championship there, 444 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: played in Australia, broke my foot in Australia, and show 445 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: France for like two weeks. I couldn't stand it because 446 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: the smell and they just they just wasn't taking care 447 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: of themselves, you know what I'm saying, Like the gym, 448 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: all that stuff like it wasn't something I wanted to 449 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: be a part of. 450 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 6: I was that transition from you know, the overseas world. 451 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 6: Now you I don't want to mess it up like 452 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 6: I think he went to New Jersey first. Yeah, yeah, 453 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 6: so you went straight to New Jersey. How was that 454 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 6: like transition? 455 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 3: Well for me, I broke both of my feet. 456 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: Uh. The second time I broke my foot, I was 457 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: was the last day of cuts for the Bulls, and 458 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: I made the team. Like I went from not being 459 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: on the having a pinion in the Pendy Jersey to 460 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: the last day I got on the purple I mean 461 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: the regulationship. 462 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: Like, you know what I'm saying, I'm with the starters. 463 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: So when if you went the starters last day when 464 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: they got two people making the team, you basically know 465 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: you're making the team. 466 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 467 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: Broke my foot the day of last cuts, going for 468 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: a leg, broke my foot, called my mama again, but 469 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: this time I was crying like a little bit to 470 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: my ball and like maybe this ain't it. 471 00:19:59,000 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 472 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: I broke both my feet, like going through all the ship, 473 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: maybe I gotta do something else. And it wasn't nothing 474 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: else for me to do because I wasn't smart, you 475 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I wasn't prepared to go to 476 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: school and get a job and those ship like that. 477 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: She's like, so what you're gonna do. You're gonna come home, 478 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: You're gonna heal up, and you're gonna get back out there. Mama, 479 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: she wouldn't let me sit in that ship. 480 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 481 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: She wouldn't let me sit in that ship, even though 482 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: she was hurt too, because she she's seen it on 483 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: me like I was dead though, you know what I'm saying. 484 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: I was there, bro, I feel to make the team. 485 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 3: I'm here. All the hardwork is over. 486 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: I made it and that ship happened the day of 487 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: and uh I was devastated for a while. 488 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 3: Bri, I ain't gonna lie. I stayed home. 489 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: I had to play basketball for like eight months, didn't 490 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: do nothing, and I didn't think I you know, I 491 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: didn'tink I ever play again. 492 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 3: Okay, crazy, you gotta go. 493 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 5: You go from that feeling to being the NBA champions. 494 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 5: Them they're crazy though, So what made you start hooping again? 495 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 5: Like obviously he said your mom was pushing you. 496 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: Well, I got an opportunity to play summer League with Vancouver. 497 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 3: I got opportunity to play Mike. 498 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: Mike came went to Vancouver, and uh I went out 499 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: that with Mike and I ended up playing some league 500 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: with them, and I was busting Sharip abdu Ram, that's 501 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: my boy. I was. 502 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: I was hungry, bro. You know what I'm saying. 503 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: I was hungry. 504 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 505 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: I was. I was hungry. And I was out there shining, shining, shining, 506 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: preseason shine and practice shining. And they cut me. 507 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 3: I'm like, God, damn, I'm like what I got to 508 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: do about? 509 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: Like it? Is it? I'm starting to learn the game too, though, 510 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: the posess, the political side of basketball. 511 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 3: It ain't about how good you is. You know what 512 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 513 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: You got to fit in with You got to fit 514 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: in with the team, and they want you to buy in. 515 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't buying inn the ship at that time. 516 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I was. 517 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't coachable and none of that. 518 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 3: I was just raw. 519 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: Give me the ball, get out the way, let me 520 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: compete against my man. You know what I'm saying. I 521 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: didn't know how to run plays, none of that shit. 522 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: So so they was right for to be keep me punking. 523 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: They was right for cutting me because I was just 524 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: a raw basketball player. I was. I didn't know how 525 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: to play the game yet. You know what I'm saying, 526 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: but as time passed, I played in summer League with 527 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: a couple other teams, and I ended up getting an 528 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: invite to camp with New Jersey And that's all because 529 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: Steph Marberry and King Martin. Yeah, I ended up going 530 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: up to preach the pre camp and I ended up 531 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: playing Steph and King. King got the drafted number one 532 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: that year, and they came and watched his practicing, like 533 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: bringing the camp. The byron was asking to bring him 534 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: the camp and men Ken he birol the number. Me 535 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 1: and Keen I already knew each other, and being from Texas, 536 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: King just wasn't he Keen lead. I think he's a 537 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: year younger than me. He had an injury. He had 538 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: an injury going into that year, so he broke his foot. 539 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: He broke his foot, still got drafted number one, and 540 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: that's why he went plus why he wont practicing. So 541 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: but anyway, they got me in and once I got in, 542 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, I just yeah, yeah, everything worked out for me. 543 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: I had number one. You got the number one pick 544 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: and the starting point guard on your side. You know 545 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's kind of hard to. 546 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 3: Go who shows in the roads. What was that vent 547 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: that grabs you. 548 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: It was it was stuff. So you know, me being 549 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: from Texas, we used to have the starch down pants, 550 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: but with a bitches can stand up. He was on 551 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: the pocket. 552 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: Ship kick. 553 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: It did that. 554 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 6: You you went to some workout and did you go 555 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 6: somebody in New York and said you was in the 556 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 6: gym and like literally took your fans off falls. 557 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: It's like set them up. They really stood up like Harton. 558 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: So I told you, so, look, I'm getting ready to 559 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: come in the draft. This is this. I knew what 560 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: I knew. Face was drafting me and they flew me 561 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: out to New Jersey to work out in New Jersey 562 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: gym with this guy name I forgot his name, but 563 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: he was working out our handthm time. This is my 564 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: first time meeting now was like set sixteen seventeen. Be'st 565 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: niggas the biggest dude I've ever seen in my life. 566 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 3: I'm like this nigga in high school and. 567 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: We ended up working out together. He actually work out 568 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: with him. So I wasn't planning on working out. So 569 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: I had on some jeans. I told you who takes, 570 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: So my shit was starched down talking about I pulled 571 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: them business off and just stood them up. 572 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 4: I showed him. 573 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: I showed him to practice one day and Steph was like, 574 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: oh now, oh now a nigga. Steph took me. This 575 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: is a true story. Steph took me, brought me an 576 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: escalade this when Esclades first came out. Bought me like 577 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: ten pass of Tims baggy jeans. He brought me the 578 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: whole swagh. He like, man, take that shot off. He 579 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: made me take my jeans off and left and they 580 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: threw them in the trash. Win'm on state flow jeans 581 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: out here. I'm like, sh that's ship since we're. 582 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: Here, because I ain't gonna ain't gonna front. I used 583 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 3: to start my ship, okay, real ship, though I should. 584 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: Never stood how the fun was putting in the cleaners 585 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: and and you say heavy starts, you want heavy starts, 586 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: so start. 587 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 3: You can see the iron print on the business. 588 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: You just that just how we did it out next, 589 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 1: I don't want with the night back in the day 590 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: off the way from you had jeans on, you flipped 591 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: the bottom. 592 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 3: You flipped the bottom. 593 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 1: Yeah that you got it. And then your pass too 594 00:24:51,800 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: big hit with this one? 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Were like switch because the Stephen 626 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: Jackson I know, I don't. I don't remember Jersey and stuff. 627 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 5: I know you from Fivecats, Yeah, from Golden State, you 628 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 5: know the spursanship of me was the guy the bodcast because. 629 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: You was averaging twenty you was cooking. But when was 630 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: that year? If you were a click? But see that's 631 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: that's the difference. You play the game. You know the game. 632 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: If I would agree with you, because that was my 633 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: best year. 634 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my best years playing basketball. 635 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: But New Jersey it clicked because when I got there 636 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: byron On was fucking with me and I ended up 637 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: starting my first first game of season. I ended up starting, 638 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: I end up making it I end up making a 639 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: Rookie All Star Game. I'm leading all rookies in storing, 640 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: even the number one pick that's on my team. I'm 641 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: leading all scoring going into the Rookie game. I come 642 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: back from the Rookie game, I don't play no mo 643 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Why do you think that 644 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: I have no idea? So for me, this is what 645 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: I think. So Byron had a son named Thomas Scott 646 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: that was the same age of me, and he was 647 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: there around the time, so I hung with him. I 648 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: was the youngest of him, so I hung with him 649 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: a lot, and his wife basically treated me like a son. 650 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: So I don't know if he thought that I was 651 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: hitting on his wife or something like that, but that's 652 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: that's the only thing I could think of, because that 653 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: the animosity that he showed to just stop playing me 654 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: with no kind of excuse, you know what. I don't 655 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: even talk to me about it, Like I thought it 656 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: had to be personal, you know what I'm saying. And 657 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: his wife was just she was a mother to me 658 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: because I was still young and she felt like I 659 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: needed some guys, and my mom appreciated. But I think 660 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: he took it the wrong way okay, yeah, because. 661 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 4: I got a story about when we play. You played 662 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 4: on the podcast. 663 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 5: I'm gonna let you get to that because you want 664 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 5: a championship with the Spurs, so you know when you 665 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 5: were rookie, you're gonna play. Well, I didn't play, so 666 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 5: I'm talking at the end of the bench, so I 667 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 5: just yelled ship out. I can't remember who the point 668 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 5: guard with your team was. I think it might have 669 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 5: been light He went he went to. 670 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: The basketball t was like, hell no, and he looks. 671 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: He looked at the intern shut your ass up. But 672 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm laughing because now I got I got him start 673 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: like I'm getting under your skin. I can't play that 674 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: when I'm. 675 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 3: Mad, I can't play up. 676 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm gonna keep talking. 677 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 5: So next time he comes he comes to the sideline, 678 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 5: I say something else like that ship off. He would us, 679 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 5: you know, talking ship but they starting knowing me and ship. 680 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 5: So now I'm standing up doing all the antique something 681 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 5: I ain't playing. 682 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to entertain myself. Really, So it gets 683 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: to the last shot of the game, right. 684 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 3: One of the best storytellers, this nigga. 685 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: So he got the wall on the wing bar bench. 686 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: So I'm like, mom, like, mo wk that ship up? Man, 687 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: he's Jack. Jack won dribble right hit the game winner. 688 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: I think you on the stands right on the stairs. 689 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, she was about to come from me. 690 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: I ran to the back of the locker room. I 691 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: was like, watch I come back out and shut the fuck. 692 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say that. That was my only game 693 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: winn in my career, was the only one that walk Off, 694 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, walk Off hit the shot. I ran to 695 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: the back, like, oh, Ship came back there and shut 696 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: the funk up. I was like, I ain't gonna say nothing. 697 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: Who else was coach on that? You know? I ended 698 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: up making Off should have made it because Ship changed 699 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: when I got there. But I was happy for him 700 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: because that was really my partner in crime. Like I 701 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: felt like I was back with Ron our test, you 702 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, with Jerl on that wing and 703 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: were arguing about who guarding. 704 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 705 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: I love having another guy that's gonna compete on the 706 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: wing like that, Like playing with Ron was the best 707 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: ever bro run a test, Like I would never have 708 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: a teammate that could dominate on both fans of the 709 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: court every night if he wanted to. You know what 710 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like running somebody who I feel like, as 711 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: a team, the only teammate that could have won m 712 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: v P and Defensive Player Year in the same year. 713 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: And we're here with it. Listen, we are babies, man. 714 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We was locked in on 715 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 2: that Pacer stuff. Man, that day that that happened. 716 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 4: Nobody could believe that should happened at all. 717 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: We didn't. I couldn't even believe it either, Bro, to 718 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: be honest. 719 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 4: That was our championship year. 720 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 3: Though I ain't gonna thank you. 721 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 4: We were smacking all four pistols that year. Bro. 722 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 5: At the time, I played on the Pacers before and 723 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 5: that organization, everybody knew that was a year. Like even 724 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 5: when I came on the team, they didn't think we 725 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 5: was winting no championship year. 726 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: They knew that riggie too, because that was the year 727 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: for us to win. You know what I'm saying that 728 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: that ship that won this ship happened five like five minutes, 729 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: fucked up our whole season, But we was beating the 730 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: ship out of them to bow out. 731 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 3: Ye, I was cracking everybody shipbod we. 732 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: Was pacers might never want to to get I mean 733 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to get close like that. 734 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: I mean pg in them they were straight white. That 735 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 3: was the best team to me. 736 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: I know they went to the finals with Regid them, 737 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: but the team. 738 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 3: We had was the best team. I had killers. 739 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: I had killers, but from top to from all the 740 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: way around though, from one, two, three, five, like Jeff Foster, Jamano, 741 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: Neil Ron test Me, Regim Miller, Jamal Tesley, who had 742 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 1: Scott poll on sideline. We had fucking Fred Jones. Uh, 743 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: we had we had a mob, bro, we had a 744 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: solid mob. I don't I didn't see nobody beating us 745 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: in the seven game series at all. That what a 746 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: run on testing his right mind. Nah, it wouldn't happen now, y'all. 747 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: That was the year. 748 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 5: I just remember from that fight because Fred Jones, he 749 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 5: used to be in India a lot. He used to 750 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 5: litter for a minute. I used to always mess when 751 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 5: he would come hoop at the gym and ship when 752 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 5: he had that broom. 753 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: Everybody else whooping as it was the fun you do 754 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: it for, Sweet. 755 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: Fred Weeds Ben brother ended up. 756 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: If y'all look at the film Ben Brother because I 757 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: think Benham has just lost somebody in their family. Before 758 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: the game, Ben Brother had ended up right behind Fred 759 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: and tried to knock his head. He turned into. 760 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 3: Fred got out of all this. 761 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: He didn't get hit, and it was a big boy 762 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: he throwing a big boy like he moves on. It's 763 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: because if you look at the videos at the time 764 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: where they was paying it to everything happened and everybody else, 765 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: you don't see emotion. 766 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 4: But Fred was in the stands ducking for his life. 767 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 3: He was like, damn, My thing was why even go 768 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 3: out there? 769 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm say, going and saying to me, 770 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: and like I really don't feel like we should have got. 771 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 3: Suspended like Ron maybe. 772 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: But then again, if you think about, Okay, if somebody 773 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: we out at a restaurant and somebody throw a beer 774 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: on your face, that's the salt. You know what I'm saying, 775 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: You can press charges on them, right Not if you're 776 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: a black athlete, Yeah, I got not if you're a 777 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: black athlete. 778 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 3: You can't. You know what I'm saying. 779 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: We was at work, bro, you know what I'm saying. 780 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: Anybody was getting saw to the work. They're not getting 781 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: in trouble. Why would we get in trouble because we 782 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: defended ourselves. And I have to say this too, when 783 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: you look at the tape I got, I got suspended 784 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: thirty games, got fined three million dollars, right, so if 785 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: you look at the tape, I ran up six rolls 786 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: to get and I grabbed run. If I was on 787 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: some bullshit, I could hit somebody on row one, two, three, four, five, six. 788 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't on. I went up and I grabbed Ron 789 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: immediately look at the tape. As soon as I grab him, 790 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: they throw another beer in his face. That's the dude 791 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: I hit. 792 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 793 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: So that's why I'm feel like I shouldn't have I 794 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: shouldn't have got suspended for defending my teammate and being 795 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I didn't go Now, if 796 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: I went up there in the first row, hit a nigga, 797 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: second row, hit a nigga, like okay, yeah, kicking ass, 798 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: I have to leave. I didn't do that. You can't. 799 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 3: You can't a leisure and all every. 800 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: For real you and Jayo because Jao hit dude, he slipped. 801 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: But if he didn't slip, bro. 802 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 3: And he's still left on the stretcher. 803 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the dude Jayo slipped and the dude still left 804 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: on the stretcher. 805 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 3: That's how crazy. 806 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad he did. Oh my god, can 807 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: you imagine Jao teeing up and lining somebody up. What dude? 808 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: Clay Click kicked that off though, So no wrong was wrong. 809 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 3: So I'm at the free throw line. 810 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: Look at the game. 811 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 3: I'm at the free throw line. 812 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you some shit that a lot of 813 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: people don't know. I'm at the free throw line. I'm 814 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: shooting the free throw. All I hear is you can 815 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: get your file back. And Jamal Tense is telling that 816 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: to Ron. I'm like, man, what we don't tell him that? 817 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: So I'm like, fuck it, I go you know what 818 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: I thought. I hit him, make the free throw. I 819 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: ran back. Look at the tape. I ran back fast 820 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: and jumped and guarded Ben just so wrong. Cann't file 821 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: him guarding Ben. I'm just letting Ben go score with 822 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: the termin and out go ahead. You know, I'm just 823 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: playing token defense. I ain't follow him go score wrong, 824 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: come from out of nowhere and file him hard. I'm like, oh, 825 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: being turned around and got ten times bigger nigga swilling. 826 00:34:58,960 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm like that incredible. 827 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 7: I'm like, boom, nigga run I thought run head came off. 828 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 7: My nigga pushed Ron ship back so fast. I'm about guy. 829 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: I've never seen a nigga put his hands in somebody's 830 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: face like that, though, and Ron just you know, he 831 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: tried to get himself together. 832 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 3: I know he was kind of woozy. 833 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: He had to be. 834 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 3: He tried to get it something. We ended up breaking 835 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 3: it up. 836 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,479 Speaker 1: But if Ron would have never came up in five 837 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: Ben I was guarding him tip with the game would 838 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: have ran out. We'd have been out of you know 839 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But Jamal Sensey told it, bro, get 840 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 1: your file back from last year something in the finals 841 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: that I hadn't you know what I'm saying, didn't know 842 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 1: nothing about it, and I ended up in that ship 843 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: and that's how all that ship started off. That ship 844 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: would never happened. That's crazy, fuck bro crazy. 845 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 6: I want to talk about them Spurs teams though, because 846 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 6: you played to me with the best fire for it 847 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 6: to ever do this. 848 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 3: I agree with you on that. Like, how was that point? 849 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 3: I know it was a couple of fun niggas on 850 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 3: the team. If you don't want to, I. 851 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: Met you. 852 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 4: I met you. 853 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 3: I keep it from Yeah, you ain't got to speak 854 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 3: on the bigges. How was that playing for Pop Bro 855 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 3: one of the graziest. 856 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: So I say this and people think I'm crazy, But 857 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: Pop is not a great coach. Hold on, he's a 858 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: great leader, you know what I'm saying. See if you 859 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: look at the Spurs teams and look at all the 860 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: coaches that come under Pop, that's head coaching somewhere else. 861 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: Look at all the guys that came in and came 862 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: into Spurs organization. That was film guys, that's GMS and 863 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: President of the team, Sam Preston. All these guys right 864 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: all over the league. They so he Pop is a 865 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: great leader. When you when you play for the Spurs teams, 866 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: when you look at the timeouts, Pop has a When 867 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: I was there was an offensive coach and the defensive coach. 868 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: My offense coach was Mike Budd Newser He's been Coach 869 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: of the Year two years. Mike Brown. That was your guy, 870 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: Bud news Mike Brown and sant Sacramento. He was the 871 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: defensive coach. So doing timeouts they meet, but budd comes 872 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: in with offense, the time out, Mike comes in. That's 873 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: why That's why I say Pop is not a great coach, 874 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: He's a great leader. He leads the organization from the 875 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: top with everybody from the gym to the ball boys 876 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: to the camera guys. Everybody sneaking championship or bus right. 877 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: And you go to a lot of organizations where the 878 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: leader of the organization doesn't have the power to have 879 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: everybody buying into that. That's why I say he's the 880 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: best leader because he can. He can bring any coaches 881 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: in there, make them look good, and send them off 882 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: somewhere else with their head coaches. He got a guy 883 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: that was the film guy when I was there. He's 884 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: the head coach of the Utah Jazz. Now you know 885 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So Pop, That's why I say he's 886 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: a leader. He's not a great coach. He brings he 887 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: brings great coaches under him. But he's a great leader. 888 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's a better leader in the NBA. 889 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: But my time there was a blessing because I learned 890 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: how to be a professional. I learned the NBA has 891 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: more than just playing basketball. I learned how to prepare 892 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I learned how to be 893 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: a man because Steve Smith. He showed me how to 894 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: be a man with David Robinson. But not having Tim 895 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 1: Duncan there, I don't think I ever would have played. 896 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: I would have got an opportunity to be on the court. 897 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: When I first got there. Everybody don't know Tim is 898 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: the action junky. So he playing paintball. He's like, he 899 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: like he got he got a thing. He had a 900 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 1: case full of guns, like he he do UFC training, 901 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: like he wanted those action type guys. 902 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 3: He like ashes. 903 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: So when I first got there, he needed somebody to 904 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: go play paintball with him. Yeah, I know that's right 905 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 1: up my alley. 906 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 3: You're talking about throwing Jesus whatever. 907 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: Ship Samples used to wear. Crazy. That's the worst one ever, 908 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: the worst. Let you know. He didn't give a respect though. 909 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 1: He liked to play paintball. So I showed him, you know, 910 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: I showed him paintball with Diggie's on Chuck. He's like, boy, 911 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: you can't. You got to have some comfortable shoes like this, 912 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: ain't you know we can do a drive by. He's like, nah, 913 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: this ain't it. But you gotta get elbow passed. So 914 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: I used to go play with him, so training camp 915 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: this funny story. So we go play and like, I 916 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: ain't scared of ship, like I really ain't. Besides God, 917 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: I ain't scared of no human. I ain't scared of nothing. 918 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: That's just my problem. That's why I've probably been so 919 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: much ship. And the name of the game is you 920 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: got to go grab the flag in the middle. So 921 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, ain't nobody gonna go grab the flag? Yeah, nigga, 922 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: scary that. I dropped my gun, hall ass teach, So 923 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 1: I'm just start playing. So I didn't know they had 924 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: masks that don't fog up. I'm not hip to that. 925 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm just, you know, I'm just trying to have on 926 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: some ghetto ship. My mask fogged up. I gotta run 927 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: up the steps. 928 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 3: Boom boom. 929 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: Nigga, shoot me, Nigga, I got it, Nigga. I missed 930 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: the last step and my mask lder uh, nigga, blood everywhere, Nigga, 931 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: my mouth, I'm talking, My shit is so swollen. Nigga's 932 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 1: blood everywhere, my tooth and went to my lip. All 933 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: kind of ship, right, So I slipped my mask down 934 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: and I'm running down trying to tell the niggas I 935 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: hit my mouth. These nigga shoot. I'm like, they shoot 936 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: me and they think it's paint, but it's blood and 937 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: it took over all my whole shirt. So I'm like, man, 938 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: stop me. You know what I'm saying, bleed par real. 939 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: So we gotta go to practice the next day. I mean, 940 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: with Tim, we lift and waives Pop coming out. What 941 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: happened this when Tim fuck with me? I mean, I 942 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: was playing at the house with my homeboard flat box. 943 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, The straight up lied. Tim 944 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:16,919 Speaker 1: thought I was gonna say. You know what I'm saying, 945 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: straight up live to Pop nigga. You know, Pop knew 946 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: I was lying. He knew that shit. Ever since then, 947 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: Tim bosh for me doing practice put I wasn't playing. 948 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: I was on practice squad. Put me on the first 949 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 1: five with him to day he tell her, So Seattle, 950 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 1: We're playing in Seattle. One day, it's been like twenty 951 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: five games into the season. I'm coming off the bench 952 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: on averisent by eighteen off the bench at the time. Yeah, 953 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm killing to it. Yeah, getting to off the bench. 954 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Playing probably like twenty five 955 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: minutes and pop cars like, come to my room. I'm like, 956 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: I get in this room, Tim and there I'm like, yep, 957 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: they know they know we're gonna start you tonight. Okay, 958 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: get kicked off the team. We're gonna start you tonight. 959 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: You know you've been playing well, I'm like, okay, cool, 960 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: but that on wasn't That depends the work hardest part. 961 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: I told you Steve Smith was my o G. So 962 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: I was taking his spot. So you know, I walk 963 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: in the locker room, I'm like, walk by him, don't 964 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: want to speak to him like this o G. Like, 965 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: I don't know how he's gonna feel like, Hey, you 966 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: gooted for me. I'm rooting you the same way like 967 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: he was a real It was like, we don't do that. 968 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,479 Speaker 1: I'm root for you just the way. It ain't personal, 969 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I didn't understand that I 970 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: wasn't a professional then, you know what I'm saying. But 971 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: for him to do that, it gave me the conference 972 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,959 Speaker 1: to go out there and play. So shout to Steve Smith. 973 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: But that's how I ended up really getting on the 974 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: court and getting a chance to play was because the Tim, 975 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: because Tim kept vouching for me. Was that this was so, 976 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 1: this is O three yep, did you want to chip? 977 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: And that finals was crazy. I remember you having one 978 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: of the colts in and outs every like I was 979 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: aware who you. 980 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 3: Was, Kenny Martin, and I ever seen in all life. 981 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 982 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: And I ain't I'm just not. I'm not like teaching. 983 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 1: I ain't the greatest handler. 984 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 985 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: I can control my ship. But some ship had come 986 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: out there now instinct. 987 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. The niggas do this on purpose. 988 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. My ship just came off instinct. 989 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 4: I remember that that was one of the hardest thing 990 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,959 Speaker 4: I've ever seen in my life. 991 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 2: That was crazy. But man, like I said, we have 992 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 2: town babies, and y'all was going crazy. And to see 993 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 2: it at the same time the coast is going crazy. 994 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 2: How was that the night life in the city because 995 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 2: the city ain't been the same since, But how was 996 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 2: that energy in the city when the coast is killing, 997 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 2: y'all killing, and everybody was outside and jail had the 998 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 2: clubs and had our own club every night, Sir. 999 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: Seven seven, shout out McAfee. Bob Sanders, Bob saying the 1000 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: whole nine. It was the line. 1001 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 3: It was the line back of the name. 1002 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: No no no, no no no. 1003 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 3: White. 1004 00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: Freenie g next up with m That was my dogs. 1005 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: They always out. We was all out together, bro. That 1006 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 1: was my first That's probably the only time that I've 1007 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: been in the city as the football team and we 1008 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: hung together every night. I didn't do that to know 1009 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 1: other city that that team. Those two teams were basically 1010 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 1: like family, broke cause we supported each other, you know 1011 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think I stayed right next door 1012 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: to Tony Dungeon, and the night I got hit by 1013 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: the car, that was the first person at my house 1014 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: when I got home from getting stitched up. 1015 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 3: He was the first person. 1016 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: Knocked on my door, Tony Dungeon. So I think just 1017 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: the fact that a lot of the guys stayed in 1018 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: the same neighborhoods and we support that. 1019 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 3: It was just dope. 1020 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: And then it was a lot of guys on the 1021 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: team that grew up like us, you know what I'm saying, 1022 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 1: Andrew James, they grew up from the struggle too, So 1023 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 1: it was it was a great connection. Bro. You ever 1024 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: hear Riverside on a Sunday. I sure did. 1025 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 3: Set all here. Theseggas, they're gonna make. 1026 00:43:52,520 --> 00:44:01,760 Speaker 1: It families everywhere. That's so crazy. We had a sheriff 1027 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: came to my house. Jail had a sheriff come to 1028 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: the house and give all of his gun license after that. Yeah, 1029 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's why I felt like that they had 1030 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: a gun Like kids untouchable, I'm gonna get off, get off, And. 1031 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 4: It was crazy as a kid. 1032 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 3: That that's how going. 1033 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 2: Like you would see Jamali and the random s places, 1034 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: Freshman all Fresh and Helf Fresh White T, Fresh Forces, 1035 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 2: Fresh j Brother. 1036 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: Cut my hair and he wore he wore Fresh Path Ones. 1037 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: J T even practiced in the Fresh Path ones one day. 1038 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 3: Solid that's untied. How was that like playing with him? 1039 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 6: He's under another point guard for sure, that's super underrated. 1040 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 6: He was THEMN there to me before right for Austin 1041 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 6: like the one type of player you know. So how 1042 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 6: was that playing with Jamal. 1043 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: One of the best post up guards you could ever 1044 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: play against. His post game was underrated and as far 1045 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,879 Speaker 1: as his passing and bar handling, you ain't gonna find 1046 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: too many guys that's gonna do. The playground ship in 1047 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: the game that he would do you know what I'm saying, 1048 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: He'll he'll post up and turn around and throw it 1049 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: through the guy legs on the box right down to 1050 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: on the box once you threw his legs like. He 1051 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: was doing stuff like that. So he was very probably 1052 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 1: the most besides Baron David was the most creative person 1053 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: with the ball I play with, and uh, like he's 1054 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: very underrated. I just think because he the way he 1055 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: played it was slow. He didn't give the even give 1056 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: the effort all the time on defense like that, So 1057 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: people kind of knocked him for that. 1058 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 3: As far as talent, he had it all six. 1059 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably a little taller, he looks. 1060 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 3: He looked real little on them. 1061 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: It just got the ball on. 1062 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he could pass, like. 1063 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 2: Especially when the coach he is playing for him to 1064 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 2: play the way he played under that coach at the time, Yeah, 1065 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 2: because LB wasn't going for that. Yeah, so for him 1066 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 2: to get that off, that's why. Yeah, we got some 1067 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,280 Speaker 2: inner City. 1068 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 6: Outside of Tim Duncan. Who the best player you ever 1069 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,439 Speaker 6: played with? Tim got to be one. 1070 00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 3: Tim is the best I played with. 1071 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: If I have to go, it's out a run and 1072 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 1: jo I got Barren number three, But it's out of 1073 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: Ron and jail for too, because I seen Ron do 1074 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: some amazing things on that court, Like it's dominated on 1075 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: both sides of the court. And I seen Jermaine Damnar 1076 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: to get seventy points. You know what I'm saying one night, So. 1077 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 4: People sleep on used to get bucket broad don't happen. 1078 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 1: He's in the Hall of Fame already. That don't happen. 1079 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 1: But run Roun's a Hall of Famer, So I give 1080 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: you that. 1081 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 6: I want to talk about that Warriors team though, yeah, 1082 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 6: that's probably I don't know. I ain't gonna say the 1083 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,720 Speaker 6: most fried team. 1084 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 3: On record, that's the if we're not the most burnout 1085 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 3: team in the. 1086 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: Indiana team Charlotte, I mean the Golden State team was 1087 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: probably the most burnout team ever in life. 1088 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 5: Yeall made basketball fund though, Like watching y'all was like, damn, 1089 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:54,919 Speaker 5: that looks fun. 1090 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: But just imagine a whole bunch of people you grew 1091 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: up knowing high school. Y'all hit up on the same 1092 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: NBA team. Y'all got a coach Donnie that the first 1093 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: day I get there, just how he tell me and 1094 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: Bettie we captains. He brings us to this little hole 1095 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: in the wall, talk about I'm gonna take out to 1096 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 1: this hole in the wall bar to play shuffle board. 1097 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 3: Who knows what shuffle board is. 1098 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: Niggas don't know what that is, right, I'm like cool, 1099 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: whatever we get there, it's with the sand, the little 1100 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 1: metal balls and you slider time, you know what I mean. 1101 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 1: So we didn't play the ship at all. This nigga 1102 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: got a bottle of scotch and got me and bet 1103 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: piss it drunk, talk about the to the Betie, blinking 1104 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: our eyes and as we had like the fifth shoddy 1105 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,240 Speaker 1: tablets up, Larry, come on, Larry, hey, you guys are captains, 1106 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:44,439 Speaker 1: and he stumble out. We roll with him. We called, 1107 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: we called the we called the driver from the and 1108 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 1: him and last. So he left with me this SMI 1109 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,919 Speaker 1: beaty sent at the bar like nigga talking about drunk 1110 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: because I don't drink scotch. We're sitting there waitting like 1111 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,320 Speaker 1: I guess we captains. 1112 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 3: We had to buind our way home. 1113 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: So that day we we knew that this all now 1114 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 1: we coach. When we took our last drug test, me 1115 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 1: and Bed coming out of the locker room with our 1116 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: pink slip because they get your pink slip. I did 1117 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 1: take you test my head coaches out like this, given 1118 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 1: it's high five, come out. Yeah. Yeah, we already smoking 1119 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 1: because we live in the same building. But he giving 1120 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: us high five. That's what that's listen to explaining how 1121 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 1: our team was. You know what I'm saying, man, and 1122 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: our best friends. When we got that Montella didn't have 1123 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,800 Speaker 1: a tattoo. You look at him now, your whole body tattoo. 1124 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: He had one tattoo that was Matt. The best Matt 1125 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: thought right there that boys did that to my taste, 1126 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: is that you. 1127 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 3: And Matt first time linking up. Yep. 1128 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: So that's how me and Matt became close. When his 1129 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: mom died, you know what I'm saying, I stayed with 1130 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: him the whole time. You know what I'm saying, We 1131 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,800 Speaker 1: really became But his mama died fast too from cancer, 1132 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: and uh, instead of me going home doing those little 1133 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: breaks shit, I just stayed with him. And that's what 1134 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: that's That's how Barnes started. Didn't start with the podcast 1135 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 1: started way before that in Golden State. But that team 1136 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: bro was just a whole bunch of guys that been 1137 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: knowing each other. We get a chance to play together. 1138 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: We didn't think we was gonna make the playoffs and 1139 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: no ship like that. We were just hungry and you know, 1140 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,760 Speaker 1: playing hard and playing for each other. Good shit happened. 1141 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: Y'all was going out every night, every night. But it's 1142 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 1: not one city. Let me tell you the story of 1143 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 1: New Year's. We're in Houston on New Years. We had 1144 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: just beat the Rockets, right, so this is a typical 1145 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 1: night with us. So this is New Year's. We beat 1146 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: the rockets. We in the club. It's about club like 1147 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: an hour two for being closed. 1148 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 3: By this time. 1149 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: Our whole team is drunk, so everybody has a role. 1150 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 1: So I passed out the Bandanna, so everybody got a 1151 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: red band downers. I don't know why Nbad's trip everybody. Okay, 1152 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: Matt rot Mad is the drunk, pretty white boy, so 1153 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: we all drunk niggas and white beat us. He run 1154 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 1: around ripping niggas, white beat us off like some I 1155 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: don't know some school days type I don't know old schools, 1156 00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,080 Speaker 1: and I don't know some drunk white boys sh no 1157 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 1: niggas and the half niggas drunk half wife beat his. 1158 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:03,399 Speaker 3: Own half farf right. 1159 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 1: So normally it's my job to find Baron Davis. If 1160 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,839 Speaker 1: you don't find Baron Davis, it's gonna be a night 1161 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 1: that we're gonna remember all we we're gonna regret it. 1162 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: So I end up getting too fucked Uphy. I lose 1163 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: barn and I get tapped by one my home. I 1164 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: was like, bro, look your boy like what He on 1165 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: his way to the DJ so look as soon as 1166 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 1: he grabbed the microphone my homebore Coppo tech d Finnig. 1167 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: Get us all to night, get us all the dated, 1168 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: so I said, He grabbed the mic, stopped the music. Hey, 1169 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,320 Speaker 1: we're the Warriors. 1170 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 3: We come to the city. 1171 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 1: We take y'all bitches. We beat our team. What's up, 1172 00:50:52,160 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 1: Luther Head? Because we gang bang? And he paused, And 1173 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 1: we sell drugs. I told you, I told you. I'm like, 1174 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 1: oh man, somebody gonna get this. This is New Year's 1175 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 1: in Houston. So every drugs, this is the time we 1176 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: get outside. Police everywhere. The police is everywhere. You know what, 1177 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying, peep outside that to fight or something. So 1178 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: we all coming out, you know, we deep and the 1179 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,240 Speaker 1: police saying something to us. This nigga betells the police 1180 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: stand down. I am an honorary captain. I have this 1181 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 1: under control. Stand down. This nigga told HP to stand down. 1182 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 3: I am an honorary captain. 1183 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: We was out there dying dog. That was one of 1184 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: the best. Nice but that's the type of night used 1185 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: to have every night, thog. Every night everybody had a 1186 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,240 Speaker 1: different niggas called Jay rich Don Julio. 1187 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 3: That was his favorite drink. 1188 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: Then we was drinking back there. Yeah, yeah, we was 1189 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,360 Speaker 1: going because I. 1190 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 6: Heard them stories about yourn rogers. Didn't know how y'all 1191 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 6: got up and still one out in handle business. 1192 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: Miami night we played Orlando. Beat We beat Orlando. We 1193 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 1: fly straight to Miami on the back to back. We 1194 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 1: stay out till seven thirty in the morning. The whole team, 1195 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,839 Speaker 1: we all just go straight from the club to the bus. 1196 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,359 Speaker 1: We get on the busy Eric at the time, he's 1197 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: one of the best trainers in the league for the war, 1198 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: so he brought all our stuff on the bus. So 1199 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: everybody on the bus with the clothes that had on 1200 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 1: from the game Orlando. That's crazy. We go to shoot 1201 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: around Nellie walk out. There's about two people on the 1202 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: court shooting everybody else those office like alcohol. He's like 1203 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 1: held break it and bring it ahead, We bring it 1204 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 1: and he's like, make go get back on the bus 1205 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 1: and we better win the night. One by thirty d 1206 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 1: wading him, that's crazy one by thirty. I thought we 1207 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 1: parted when I was a rookie on Atlanta with bill Yonaim. 1208 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know he was comfortable talking about that, but 1209 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 3: I just hear about yad. 1210 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 1: Bro. 1211 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 3: That's what made me sponge to y'all because I'm a Friday. 1212 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,919 Speaker 3: Got the NBA is a joke. 1213 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 1: I ain't if I would have took the game more series. 1214 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 1: I probably had a couple of All Star games, you 1215 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, without the broad ship. But I 1216 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 1: don't change it for not because I enjoyed my career. Bro, 1217 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,920 Speaker 1: your legend and I played with some solid brothers too. 1218 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 1: How was that? 1219 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 3: Can you speak on that? 1220 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 5: Uh? 1221 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 3: That Maverick series though? 1222 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: For me, Bro, I I watched that series a lot 1223 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: because I didn't get the credit from the team for 1224 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 1: what I did. 1225 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 3: I saved us in the Western Conference finals. I saved us. 1226 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 3: Bro Genobilie was the only person that was was being 1227 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:48,320 Speaker 3: solid Tony. 1228 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 1: Tony wasn't playing well because they were playing they had 1229 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: to bring speedy classes in. Tim was getting doubled, so 1230 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 1: he really couldn't get off and they was all they 1231 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,800 Speaker 1: weren't really doing that. So if you look at the games, 1232 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm making all the big shots, even when we have 1233 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,280 Speaker 1: we're going through droughts, I'm the only one scoring. 1234 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,919 Speaker 3: So when the last when it came. 1235 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,439 Speaker 1: To game six, when they end up putting Steve Current 1236 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 1: and hit throws fourth, it was big for us. Well, 1237 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 1: look at the whole games, the whole game and was 1238 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 1: still making big shots for him to give him the 1239 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 1: MVP at the end of the game, like that shit 1240 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 1: crushed me. And the only reason that I don't talk 1241 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 1: about this a lot because Genobi came to me when 1242 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 1: I was in my locker. I was about to start crying, 1243 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 1: but he came like, bro, you deserved the MVP. For 1244 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: him to tell me that I was cool because that 1245 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 1: was the only person on the court that whole series 1246 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 1: that was riding with me. You know what I'm saying, 1247 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,760 Speaker 1: And it meant a lot. But I watched that series 1248 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 1: a lot brough because I don't feel like I got 1249 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 1: the credit I deserved for that series. I was busting 1250 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: the ass and I was high every game, every game, 1251 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:43,919 Speaker 1: every game. 1252 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 3: You a legend now I want to talk about that 1253 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 3: Maverie series with you would. 1254 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 1: Go though, Oh okay, oh yeah, after talking about the 1255 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: one with the Spirst, so so that that one was 1256 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 1: special because a lot of people don't know don Nelson 1257 00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: was suing them. Oh damn, damn. You know he had 1258 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: he had some the contract shit with Mark Cuban, so 1259 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 1: he was suing them during that time, you know. 1260 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:08,279 Speaker 3: What I'm saying. 1261 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 1: So his whole his whole idea was every time I 1262 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,280 Speaker 1: played Dallas, I want. 1263 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 3: To beat them. 1264 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 1: I don't care about nothing else. And he knew Dirk's 1265 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,280 Speaker 1: game better than anybody. So he gave us the blueprint. 1266 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,279 Speaker 1: Make him go right. If he go left, he got 1267 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,319 Speaker 1: so he can fade away, he got. But if going right, 1268 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 1: he don't even want to. He don't want to put 1269 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,879 Speaker 1: the ball down. Damn. So me and Matt made sure 1270 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 1: we made him go right every time, and we were 1271 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: super physical with him. You know what I'm saying. Dirk 1272 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,799 Speaker 1: wasn't super physical. If you let him get the shot off, 1273 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 1: that's your ass. Nothing you can do, you know what 1274 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. There's nothing you can do. And he want 1275 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: MVP that year. He was the MVP that year. That 1276 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 1: was the best team in the West. So I just 1277 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 1: think Donnie Nelson prepared us so well for them, you 1278 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because that's all because after we 1279 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: beat them, he didn't care about the rest of the season. Nigga. 1280 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: We was preparing ourselves for the second round. Gets you talk. 1281 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 1: He didn't give a fuck. He was sharting up with 1282 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: Folk cigars in his pocket. 1283 00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 3: Eight in the month. 1284 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: He got drinking beer and shit. He didn'tet, but damn 1285 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 1: dog after he beat Dallas and that was his ship, bro, 1286 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 1: and we understood that why. 1287 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 3: We want to win so hard. 1288 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 1: But if we don't have Baron Davis the way he 1289 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: played Game one, we don't win that series in Dallas. 1290 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: He went crazy that game one, Bro, thirty some points 1291 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 1: like he was and he kept all shots, was timely, 1292 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:20,720 Speaker 1: so cold. 1293 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 4: He's one of the coldest point guards. 1294 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 3: That's one of these shouts of myg he loved. 1295 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, he didn't want to tell me. I didn't watch 1296 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 5: the NBA like that. And him and give the rings 1297 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,399 Speaker 5: was the first some of the first point guards I watched. 1298 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 1: B He don't get hurt. He might go down to 1299 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 1: top ten point goar whatever. He don't get hurt because athletics, 1300 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:39,399 Speaker 1: he had it all. 1301 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 3: He could score, that's all. 1302 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 1: Like he was mad. 1303 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,320 Speaker 3: I said he had a b BL. 1304 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:56,800 Speaker 1: But you know he needs to show up with practice, 1305 00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 1: with his knee braises on top and sweat. So this 1306 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 1: is what I started fucking. I used to watch you 1307 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 1: do the show with Skip Bas and Ship. Used to 1308 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 1: go in there and be real and never what time 1309 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 1: you talk about everybody you was better than and everybody 1310 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 1: was mad at you. I was like, no, he just 1311 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 1: competent as fuck. Thank you, broank you like I didn't 1312 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 1: have a better career in rayality, But if you look 1313 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: at the games I played against a lot of these people, 1314 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: I balled out a lot of we might not have 1315 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: won the game with my matches with a lot of 1316 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 1: these people who y'all look up to, I bust. They 1317 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 1: asked a lot of knights and lock them up, and 1318 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 1: you can go look at the games. I'm not making 1319 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 1: it up, but I'm not like I said, I didn't 1320 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 1: have better careers than these people. But I'm a competitor. 1321 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 1: And when it came to the game, yeah, I wasn't 1322 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 1: a better shooting than Ray, but I better postal player, 1323 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 1: I passed better. I was a better defender. I was 1324 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 1: a lot of things better than him on the court, 1325 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So as a player, people 1326 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 1: understand as a fan that like you just hating, But 1327 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 1: I did it in real time. 1328 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 3: I don't think you was hating messages. 1329 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,640 Speaker 1: You know. And I admit they have better careers than me. 1330 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I'd have a better career events either, But 1331 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 1: Benson tell you I had some great games against it. 1332 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 1: But they understand it's different when you just be like, 1333 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 1: let's go roll the ball out, Like it's a bunch 1334 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: of people to probably bust my ass. They probably don't 1335 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 1: have a better career than me, but it ain't too 1336 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 1: many people can stand in front of you so that 1337 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 1: they lose right there. Yeah, just like Jordan Crawford, Like 1338 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 1: that's my man. But if you roll the ball out, 1339 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 1: let's just go hoop. Yeah, he'll funk around, give you fifty. Yes, 1340 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 1: he could score, yeah, but like three, yeah, you know 1341 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like he'll roll the ball out, he'll 1342 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,120 Speaker 1: get buckets and a lot of people can't outscore. 1343 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 3: Was a motherfucker though he was. 1344 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 6: He was walking down down, and I love you, Jack, 1345 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 6: that nigga Jesus shuttles word. 1346 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: Was the truth for him to transition his career from. 1347 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 6: Because we grew up Milwaukee Bucks supersonic real and for 1348 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 6: him to go strictly just shoot her. 1349 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 3: I remember, you know what I mean. I don't know 1350 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 3: how he was off the court, but Jesus shows. 1351 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 1: Word, not Hughes cut was. It was athletic bro and. 1352 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 6: He he Loki had a handle to pull up off 1353 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 6: the dribb. Milwaukee was out of control, was scoring twenty 1354 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 6: five a night with another nigga with Charlan Lewis another 1355 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 6: motherfucker that people don't speak. 1356 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:15,439 Speaker 1: On like thought. 1357 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 5: I took it as you was talking about we rolled 1358 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,560 Speaker 5: the ball out and it ain't no place we don't got. 1359 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 4: I knew how, I knew what about you meant like, 1360 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:22,480 Speaker 4: we just. 1361 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 1: Put the ball out here. I can kill him too, 1362 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 1: and any given night I could be better than any 1363 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 1: one of them guys. 1364 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 6: So so speaking on that though, you know you was 1365 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 6: known for defending the ship. Who is the hardest or 1366 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 6: you can give us two hardest of the guard, Kobe, 1367 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 6: not even close? 1368 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 3: Who else? Stuff one person? 1369 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 1: Because I guarded you got mello, Yeah, I got a mellow. 1370 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,919 Speaker 1: I got a mellow pretty good. I got a mellow 1371 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 1: pretty good because you know, I played one through four, 1372 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 1: so I go to Power Force too. Yeah, but I 1373 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,480 Speaker 1: think for me, if it ain't Kobe. 1374 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 6: Somebody that nobody would think they used to God damn 1375 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 6: this nigga, Cold Brandon, motherfucking Roy Roy. 1376 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 1: I had problems with that nigga. We used to go 1377 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 1: at it though, but he was different, Bro, like no injury. 1378 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 1: He wanted the cold as ever. One of my favorite 1379 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 1: shoot gards of ball like that. Hands down, b Roy 1380 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 1: is one of the best basketball players I've ever had 1381 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:20,360 Speaker 1: to guard. 1382 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 3: I was not even close. He get this fly slot 1383 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:23,919 Speaker 3: on this show. 1384 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 1: Bro. 1385 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 2: Show both y'all both played in the city and lived 1386 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 2: to see at the same time. You know what I'm saying, 1387 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 2: You did a little bit before you did to see 1388 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 2: the city is now. But how was it to be 1389 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 2: in the city as it was growing until the meccan 1390 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 2: was now? And then how was it playing when it 1391 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 2: was already lit? 1392 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:46,440 Speaker 1: On the come up? I can't. I came three. It 1393 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 1: was beautiful because it was Atlanta. Was that it was 1394 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 1: that it was at its height, it was at his 1395 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 1: height around the time. You know what I'm saying, that's 1396 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 1: when BMF was doing a thing. The rap scene was 1397 01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 1: was sid of everybody. But that time, it wasn't no 1398 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 1: beef like you got people beefing now, like everybody support 1399 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 1: each other, Everybody hung out together, everybody went to saying. 1400 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 1: When Adams had a party, everybody was there. Like back then, 1401 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 1: everybody was having a good time. And I think it 1402 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 1: was because of people like Meach because when he used 1403 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 1: to come in to clubs, he coming with cup but 1404 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't no it wasn't no problems, Like he used 1405 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 1: to buy bottles for everybody in the section. So you 1406 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like everybody was having a good time. 1407 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 3: Back then. 1408 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't no competition, you know what I'm saying, like 1409 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 1: it is now and the different hoods beefing. So the 1410 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 1: club and the party was, it was the best time 1411 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 1: to be in Atlanta, Bro, it was the best time 1412 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 1: to be in Now is just you know, it's just 1413 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 1: too much with the pills and the drugs and when 1414 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 1: the kids killed. You know what I'm saying, like it's 1415 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 1: just the blind leading the blind now. But back then, 1416 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 1: at that height, Magic City Club, Miami and all that shit. 1417 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 1: Back then, Bro, Atlanta was beautiful. You you wanted to 1418 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 1: be in Atlanta, and even when I got here, it 1419 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 1: was still fun. You got here, I got here, oh no, 1420 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 1: oh nah, yeah, I still was having fun. 1421 01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 5: Like I remember the first the first time that I 1422 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 5: really well it was twine Walker was there the first time. 1423 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 3: He showed me some good time. 1424 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,520 Speaker 5: Man, I go to Magic City. I ended up going 1425 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 5: in there and he got a briefcase. It's I ain't 1426 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:18,640 Speaker 5: you know from in the Annapolis, I ain't never seen 1427 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 5: a briefcase full of ones. They bring the briefcase out 1428 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 5: to me, open up things with ten thousand ones or something, and. 1429 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 1: They liken get that. Every Monday. 1430 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 4: He like, young fella. 1431 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 5: He told me a thousand dollars, young fella and smooth 1432 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,600 Speaker 5: like that's my o G. I'm like, yeah, it's different. 1433 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:37,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1434 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 1: He come very Monday Monday. But we stayed in there. 1435 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 3: Shout out to the a. They stayed in them. 1436 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 1: I see. It was safe. It was safe. 1437 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 3: You ain't got around no cameras. 1438 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You like some of my 1439 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 1: Magic City, man, Well, it was like you don't hear 1440 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,680 Speaker 1: no stories that you've never heard, no stories about no 1441 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,480 Speaker 1: bullshit going on the Magic city because everybody was protecting 1442 01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,640 Speaker 1: and safe. Everybody had a good time. Yeah, I seen 1443 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 1: you what a couple of times showing a little you 1444 01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 1: be chilling. I was like, I ain't realized you was 1445 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,160 Speaker 1: that tall. Like when I got. 1446 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 4: Drafted, I ain't realized niggas was that tall? 1447 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,480 Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, point, I'm six and one. 1448 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 5: I played the two sometimes when I got here and 1449 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 5: I seen him, I'm like this nigga six' eight. 1450 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,120 Speaker 1: Like like, man, I ain't got no chance. Man, I 1451 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 1: played the two sometimes cue he comes just running around niggas. 1452 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 2: I gotta ask me, like you said all the smoke man, 1453 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 2: you and Matt went crazy? 1454 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 3: How was that? 1455 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,960 Speaker 2: And I'm saying y'all had a relationship. Now y'all come 1456 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,360 Speaker 2: as business partners, like you said, trail bladers in the 1457 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 2: situation with y'all knuckleheads. To see how y'all started to 1458 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 2: where you is now? Man, Like, what's think about? How 1459 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 2: is that feeling? 1460 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 1: Man? 1461 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 4: To see how y'all progress so far? 1462 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 3: It ain't nothing but guard bro. 1463 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 1: To be honest, bro, because you know, like, I ain't 1464 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 1: no different to y'all. Ain't no different to y'all. A 1465 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 1: lot of times, especially after the bath to our careers 1466 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 1: in guys like me and Matt don't get these opportunities. 1467 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 1: They give them to the guys that was the stars, 1468 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 1: that was on the commercials and all that shit. Well, 1469 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: I think Guard just put us in the perfect time 1470 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 1: because when me and Matt both decided to stop doing 1471 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 1: Fox at ESPN, we end up we ended up coming 1472 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,080 Speaker 1: up with all the smoke and we brought it to 1473 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 1: a woman named Ellen Records. Ellen RecordsOn was the woman 1474 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 1: who started Red Table Talk Red Table Talk and heard 1475 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 1: Matt like this. She ended up calling Brian Daily. Brian 1476 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 1: Day was the VP of Sports at Showtime. They was 1477 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: looking for another sports show, but they didn't know they 1478 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 1: wanted to have a sports show where didn't know about podcasts. 1479 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 1: We didn't even know about podcasts. When Matt told me bout, 1480 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, what is it? And when Matt brought him 1481 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 1: an idea, they said, cool, Matt, we'll do it with you. 1482 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 1: But we don't want Stephen Jackson. We heard a lot 1483 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 1: of stuff about him. Matt was like, I ain't doing 1484 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 1: anything at him. I'm not doing it. Shout out to Matt, real, yeah, 1485 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. And the first we do the 1486 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,760 Speaker 1: first photo shoot for it were smoking and ship were 1487 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 1: smoking a shit on the photo show. I got my 1488 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,120 Speaker 1: shirt off like a rap album and sh hold up, man, 1489 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on up. This might not work, man, 1490 01:04:58,440 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 1: we might not. I don't think we can. Show Time 1491 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 1: we get behind this, but they got behind it, bro, 1492 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,480 Speaker 1: and you know, we end up cleaning it up a 1493 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 1: little bit. We smoked on some shows, but we ended 1494 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,920 Speaker 1: up cleaning it up to the point where we ended 1495 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 1: up doing the deal with our hard Fire Audio and 1496 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 1: we ended up building our relationship with Showtime. 1497 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 3: So now we're five years in. 1498 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 1: So it ended up where five years in the podcasts 1499 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 1: now Paramount buys Showtime. Yep, they buy and they want 1500 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 1: to get rid of all of their properties, the social properties, 1501 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,400 Speaker 1: the boxing, you know, and Showtime boxing was the biggest 1502 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 1: thing that they had. Ye So during that time, Brian Daley, 1503 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 1: which is the VP, he knew that Showtime was about 1504 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,920 Speaker 1: to get brought out. So he had an idea with 1505 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 1: him and Matt, let's start our own production company. So 1506 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 1: while we were still with Showtime, we started building all 1507 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,640 Speaker 1: the smoke productions with they bred. You know what I'm saying, 1508 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 1: start building all spoke production. And during that time, I 1509 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,919 Speaker 1: had got into boxing. While I started doing the weigh 1510 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,080 Speaker 1: ins for boxing, I started doing the interviews with tanking 1511 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,040 Speaker 1: tanks wanted me all this fights and shit like that. 1512 01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 3: So I got to the box. 1513 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 1: So when we when Showtime had to buy, when Paramount 1514 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 1: was buying us out, Brian finessed some type of way 1515 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 1: where we own all Showtime Boxing properties now, so now 1516 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 1: Showtime Boxing's all the smoke fight and all the smoke boxing. 1517 01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,160 Speaker 1: So y'all, so we got we're finna be a big 1518 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 1: player in the boxing space. Now we're going to put 1519 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 1: on our own fights, taking that whole blueprint and doing 1520 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 1: that now. So I think for us with the production 1521 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,000 Speaker 1: company show we have, we have a partnership with Draft 1522 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: Kings where we have a number of shows on the network. 1523 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 1: I think just the fact that we were able to 1524 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 1: build so much stuff from just starting with the podcast, 1525 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's why I disguise the 1526 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 1: limit for y'all because y'all done so much in a 1527 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 1: short time. But for us to be able to build 1528 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:45,479 Speaker 1: a boxing the podcast and a production company and start 1529 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 1: doing live shows like that ain't number guard. But because 1530 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,440 Speaker 1: we didn't expect, we didn't know what we was doing. 1531 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 1: We didn't have no blueprint too it. We just just 1532 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,440 Speaker 1: jumped out there on the lead. But the timing and 1533 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 1: everything worked to our fail you know with Paramount and 1534 01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 1: all like everything was so why I say it was 1535 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 1: guard but because a lot of stuff that happened with us, 1536 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 1: it was just perfect time for us to. 1537 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 3: Be where we are now. Did y'all put that better 1538 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:04,439 Speaker 3: in KG back? 1539 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 1: Yes, So we had a lot to do with KG Certified. 1540 01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,680 Speaker 1: You know, we have a show called Certified Smoke. What 1541 01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,760 Speaker 1: we do across show with them, you know what I'm saying, 1542 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,120 Speaker 1: and were doing a lot of business. We was actually 1543 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 1: producing their shows with all the Smoke production. I think 1544 01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 1: they going on and doing their own stuff now, you know, 1545 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 1: trying to do their own algorithm and stuff now. But 1546 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,160 Speaker 1: we still a founder. We still do Certified Smoke, but 1547 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 1: definitely we definitely started them. We have the show with 1548 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 1: Rondo and Boogie Bully Ball. We have Rachel Nichols. You know, 1549 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,240 Speaker 1: we're building some other properties now with all of them. 1550 01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 1: On the boxing side. We have Andre Ward yes, yeah, 1551 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,840 Speaker 1: and Roy Jones we just signed them. So it's been 1552 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,440 Speaker 1: a blessing. Man. We're just trying to continue the buildings 1553 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,800 Speaker 1: because they don't expect stuff like that happened from guys 1554 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,080 Speaker 1: like us. You know what I'm saying, They don't expect that, 1555 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 1: but I'll follow that anyway. I think Matt and Brian 1556 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,120 Speaker 1: Brian Daya has been big for us because they have 1557 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 1: that mindset. Like I haven't been in one meeting. I 1558 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,640 Speaker 1: haven't missed one check. You know what I'm saying. My 1559 01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 1: job ain't to be in the meets because I know 1560 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,080 Speaker 1: that ain't my specially I didn't go to school that 1561 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,160 Speaker 1: and with school for that ship. When it's time to 1562 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,480 Speaker 1: collect money, when it's time to show up and entertained, 1563 01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 1: I know my job. So everybody and our you know, 1564 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,920 Speaker 1: a little small twelve people on our roster. You know, 1565 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 1: everybody got a job to do it. And I think 1566 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 1: we depend on everybody to do their job because you know, 1567 01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 1: everybody want to play their role and be a start 1568 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 1: their own role. 1569 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,680 Speaker 2: And that's one thing I think people don't realize, Like 1570 01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,920 Speaker 2: with these opportunities, yeah it make start as a podcast. 1571 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,720 Speaker 2: We have an opportunity for especially black entrepreneurs to. 1572 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:24,840 Speaker 3: Build enterprises offices. 1573 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:26,720 Speaker 2: If you said you're going to a showtime box, like 1574 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,080 Speaker 2: I kept seeing you at the box and stuff. So 1575 01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,200 Speaker 2: now it's all making it makes sense. But that's dope, 1576 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,479 Speaker 2: like you getting collected intellectual properties that they don't give 1577 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 2: us an opportunity to have. Look what had to happen 1578 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,759 Speaker 2: for y'all even have an opportunity because those cable networks 1579 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 2: don't fail, they sell or they just get bigger. So 1580 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,120 Speaker 2: that's dope to see y'all capitalized on. It shows of 1581 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,120 Speaker 2: the business mind. Like you said, everybody play their part. 1582 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:44,760 Speaker 2: That's the dope part. 1583 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,520 Speaker 4: Ain't nobody getting out of podcast, ain'tbody. 1584 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 2: Getting too gritty, got an operation, got machine to keep going, 1585 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:50,519 Speaker 2: And it's dope to see that for y'all. 1586 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:51,439 Speaker 3: Man, we don't see that. 1587 01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:53,320 Speaker 1: Bro. 1588 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:58,560 Speaker 6: He did this first thing with a cute choose, like 1589 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,479 Speaker 6: one of the pioneers kick this off, bro, Like how 1590 01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:02,400 Speaker 6: did that come about? 1591 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,720 Speaker 1: So for me? Like when it for the Big d 1592 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,640 Speaker 1: first started, like I was excited because I knew how 1593 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 1: I was one of those guys that wanted to play basketball, 1594 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,640 Speaker 1: and I wasn't. I wasn't going overseas, you know what 1595 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I wasn't doing those shit like that, But 1596 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to play right here and Q A lot 1597 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,120 Speaker 1: of the guys that Q like watching play, was retiring 1598 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 1: and leaving the game. So when he when he started 1599 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:25,280 Speaker 1: the League's like, bro, I want to start this league. 1600 01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,280 Speaker 1: I want to do a combine in Vegas just to 1601 01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,280 Speaker 1: see what the league was like. So during that time 1602 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,720 Speaker 1: I was doing two days, I was working that hard. 1603 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,880 Speaker 1: Eye got swollen like I because I got back into 1604 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,240 Speaker 1: that mode. You know what I'm saying. 1605 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:36,639 Speaker 3: I got back into the basketball mode. 1606 01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:37,920 Speaker 1: And when we got there, I seen a lot of 1607 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,680 Speaker 1: guys wasn't in shape, and I've seen a lot of 1608 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,240 Speaker 1: guys thinking like man, I'm just gonna get this check 1609 01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,320 Speaker 1: guaranteed ten thousand the league. I ain't gonna work. I 1610 01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 1: was gonna show up and get this money. No you're not. Yeah, 1611 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 1: first game in first day, while they having the combine, 1612 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 1: Cube asked me and al and Contino and Cormac get 1613 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,360 Speaker 1: it played like a just like a test game to 1614 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,720 Speaker 1: see what the what the league would be like. And 1615 01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,639 Speaker 1: I took that shit too serious. You know what I'm saying, 1616 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,760 Speaker 1: because I did. You know what I'm saying, because I 1617 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 1: really wanted to set the tone because I seen how 1618 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,920 Speaker 1: niggas was approaching this shit, how they were showing up 1619 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,360 Speaker 1: all fat and out of shape, and like I'm not 1620 01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 1: finna be like if y'all gonna show up like this, 1621 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give everybody one hundred points every night. 1622 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,639 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying That that was my attitude tone, 1623 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that scrimmage, I was 1624 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,439 Speaker 1: talking you know, me and our best friends. I was 1625 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,120 Speaker 1: calling Aur bitches, cursing him out like we was like 1626 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,640 Speaker 1: with me and Coy's brothers, like we was going at 1627 01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,280 Speaker 1: each other for that list short time. But everybody, like 1628 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,360 Speaker 1: one hundred people in the gym, everybody saw like, Hey, 1629 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 1: this is what the league gonna be like. And Q 1630 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,960 Speaker 1: was excited, Like that's what I needed. That's what I needed, 1631 01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:40,240 Speaker 1: And I was happy to not only play in the 1632 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,280 Speaker 1: Big Three, but shit, we all looked up to Ice Q, 1633 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 1: like I look up the fucking Q. How could I 1634 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:46,880 Speaker 1: not be in his league? And the fact that he 1635 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 1: said I had a big part of you know what 1636 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like that meant everything to me. Dog. So 1637 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,200 Speaker 1: that's why I still coach. Now, that's why I'm still 1638 01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:54,639 Speaker 1: involved in the league now, you know what I'm saying, 1639 01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,599 Speaker 1: because I know where he wants to go with the league, 1640 01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,320 Speaker 1: and we all have an opportunity to benefit off so great. 1641 01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:01,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, something that the black person 1642 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,200 Speaker 1: is building. So I'm gonna always be down with you, 1643 01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:05,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If even if it's just 1644 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 1: coaching all like I'm doing now, I'm a big part 1645 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:07,800 Speaker 1: of the league. 1646 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:12,799 Speaker 3: He said that half court bigger than bullshit. 1647 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:16,160 Speaker 4: At first one I said s court. 1648 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 1: He was like he thought that ship was easy. Then 1649 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 1: I was like, hell yeah, bro, I used to my 1650 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 1: first my years playing all my points was on the block. 1651 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 1: I hit a couple of threes, but I was I'm 1652 01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,000 Speaker 1: a big two guard, So regardless of nine ten of 1653 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,439 Speaker 1: the people that I play against in the Big three, 1654 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 1: I'm going to have advantage on the block, you know 1655 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,200 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I abused that ship. That's how 1656 01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,600 Speaker 1: that's how I had success. But when Joe came, it 1657 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:45,639 Speaker 1: was over. I ain't the biggest Joe punishing everybody said 1658 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 1: six two sixty with the hat, all that he had, 1659 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:49,720 Speaker 1: all he had it all. You know, That's been my 1660 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 1: nemmesis my whole career, though Joe's bust my ass, my whole. 1661 01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:55,360 Speaker 3: That's one that we used to go. 1662 01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:56,200 Speaker 1: But like Joe. 1663 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,559 Speaker 3: Joe spunk me around. Joe spun me around one time. 1664 01:11:58,680 --> 01:11:59,720 Speaker 3: Oh I do remember that. 1665 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:08,680 Speaker 1: Because like you can have a string, like like why 1666 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:09,719 Speaker 1: you'd be so hyped. 1667 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:12,360 Speaker 3: Like a foul happened. 1668 01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to follow him because he'slumbing around like 1669 01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,639 Speaker 1: nobody never fall. I made me stumble and Joe swimming around. 1670 01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,599 Speaker 1: It ain't nobody never made me fall. You know who 1671 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:21,240 Speaker 1: made me fall? 1672 01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:22,160 Speaker 3: Flip? 1673 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 5: He made me fall my first preseason game. He was 1674 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,760 Speaker 5: on the Bobcats. He had was in Atlanta the year 1675 01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,519 Speaker 5: before and they ain't pick up his house. I was 1676 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,760 Speaker 5: on the team first preseason game. He went snatched back. 1677 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:38,240 Speaker 5: I looked at the bench. 1678 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,080 Speaker 1: Joe Smith had a towel like this smooth was like 1679 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:51,559 Speaker 1: this baby was standing up to the league. I was hurt. 1680 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:53,559 Speaker 4: I was playing defense so hard. 1681 01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,240 Speaker 1: The next possession, dude like school, you know, flipping like 1682 01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:57,960 Speaker 1: it was the bucket. Get it. 1683 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,360 Speaker 3: That's another underwriting for sure. Did y'all win that ship 1684 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:06,240 Speaker 3: the first year the Big Three? No, No, so I wasn't. 1685 01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,479 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna kill the threes at that time. Trilogy 1686 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,800 Speaker 1: went in and oh that's they went Sean mccamp al 1687 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:18,720 Speaker 1: and Mashaan Mkantz walked everybody down for ten games twenty five. 1688 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,759 Speaker 1: You get twenty five, I get twenty five and nobody 1689 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,840 Speaker 1: could goud My Hour and rashawma Camp's go can stop. 1690 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,960 Speaker 1: For that first year, they dominated that pressure. 1691 01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,599 Speaker 5: Isaiah was playing this year on your town. I was like, nigga, 1692 01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,640 Speaker 5: you're gonna post up the whole game and out here, 1693 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,879 Speaker 5: you like, make these. 1694 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,760 Speaker 1: Gonna make you chase them out there, these motherfuckers. You 1695 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:39,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 1696 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:39,920 Speaker 3: Way I'm down. 1697 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,040 Speaker 1: I said the fuck this in this game. And he stopped. 1698 01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:43,880 Speaker 1: He stopped posting up. 1699 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:44,679 Speaker 3: And guess what happened. 1700 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:46,320 Speaker 1: They walked us down. 1701 01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,240 Speaker 3: They walked us down, and he got tired. 1702 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:51,640 Speaker 1: I told him, say, boy, you try to go out 1703 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:52,400 Speaker 1: these niggas out here. 1704 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:53,120 Speaker 3: I went out it. 1705 01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:54,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna be tied. I guess what he did at 1706 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:59,400 Speaker 1: that the game, dumb file because he was tied to 1707 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,360 Speaker 1: walk us down. We're not a fast team. We got 1708 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,880 Speaker 1: to use our size. They walked us down. 1709 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:06,760 Speaker 3: It's a big moment in the three. 1710 01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,120 Speaker 4: That's a that's a historic Big three game right there. 1711 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,439 Speaker 3: You speak on the moment, you. 1712 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, so so what people don't know? So that's that's 1713 01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 1: one of my best friends in the world. We talk 1714 01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 1: all the time. So it was just a moment where 1715 01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:27,559 Speaker 1: two competitors. So o Oak wants to win just as 1716 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,320 Speaker 1: bad as I do. We was in Texas, so I 1717 01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,679 Speaker 1: feel like anyway in Texas, I can get anybody murdered. 1718 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:36,559 Speaker 3: That's just how I feel. 1719 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm not live in Texas. You know what I mean. 1720 01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:40,479 Speaker 3: I'm just keeping it real. 1721 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:41,639 Speaker 1: You know what I'm say. If I wanted to, I'm 1722 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,040 Speaker 1: a peace I'm a peace with everybody. But if I 1723 01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:44,840 Speaker 1: wanted to, I could make some shit happen in texts. 1724 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was My adrenaline was pumping. 1725 01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,439 Speaker 1: His adrenaline was pumping. He took me out the game 1726 01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,800 Speaker 1: because I was larking the refs. He's like, man, get 1727 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,000 Speaker 1: back in the game, Like I told him something, And 1728 01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 1: it was like I said something, I'm going back in 1729 01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,519 Speaker 1: the games. Like no, you're not. I'm like, who's gonna 1730 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 1: stop me? He's like, I'm gonna stop him. Nigga. You 1731 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:07,479 Speaker 1: know where you went. I'm just reminded Texas Nigga came 1732 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,679 Speaker 1: back with the hardest shit ever. I'm like American Airlines, 1733 01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm everywhere we're going, we're going back and forth to it. 1734 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 1: He knew what he was doing because I because I 1735 01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,639 Speaker 1: got mad when I did not end up winning the game, 1736 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 1: and we had the bar together right after not even 1737 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,960 Speaker 1: talking about it. But that's just our passion for wanting 1738 01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,280 Speaker 1: to win, you know what I'm saying. Like he knew 1739 01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,519 Speaker 1: he needed me in the game for us to win. 1740 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:33,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I wouldn't understand that my 1741 01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,559 Speaker 1: drelling was pumping, But that's my guy. Now, that's that's 1742 01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,360 Speaker 1: just two fiery guys, you know what I'm saying, trying 1743 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,360 Speaker 1: to win and just emotions balled over. But that's nobody 1744 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,519 Speaker 1: respect more than Charles. 1745 01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:45,840 Speaker 4: Og before we got here. Man, tell the people, you 1746 01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:47,839 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, your entrepreneurs, I got the liquor. 1747 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:48,479 Speaker 1: On the way for the people. 1748 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:48,680 Speaker 3: Man. 1749 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,280 Speaker 1: Man appreciate that. We have a mess cow that just 1750 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,760 Speaker 1: dropped called the NEOs Uh. It's in like, uh ten 1751 01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:58,160 Speaker 1: ten to fifteen states right now. It's not in Atlanta yet, 1752 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,080 Speaker 1: but it's on the west coast of New York that 1753 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 1: we sold out already in l A. And we also 1754 01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,000 Speaker 1: have a coffee table book. The first podcast with a 1755 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:09,680 Speaker 1: coffee table book with Smith with Smith and Shuster call 1756 01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,400 Speaker 1: all the Smoke Coffee table. That's all right now as well, so. 1757 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 3: We got we gotta put it on the desk that 1758 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:15,080 Speaker 3: don't nobody like. 1759 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:20,559 Speaker 1: Club. 1760 01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,639 Speaker 3: I need to be a part of that liquor brand. 1761 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we need to do a collabor with y'all. 1762 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,680 Speaker 1: Y'all man shout to all the Smoke team, Matt, Brian, Johnnie. 1763 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,400 Speaker 5: Shout always show a little bit, get me some of 1764 01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,120 Speaker 5: bucks early on the podcast game too. 1765 01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,360 Speaker 1: And then let me let me say this too, bro like, 1766 01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:39,960 Speaker 1: I'm glad y'all doing the show because a lot of 1767 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,599 Speaker 1: people think like me and Matt always try to say 1768 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,000 Speaker 1: it on our show like it ain't no competition. That's 1769 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,160 Speaker 1: why I y'all look at my Instagram. I'll be shopping 1770 01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,280 Speaker 1: out all kinds of shows all the time, different shows 1771 01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:50,720 Speaker 1: and shows that I don't even people that don't even know, 1772 01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:52,680 Speaker 1: because I want people to know it's enough for all 1773 01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,040 Speaker 1: of us out that they no competition. They won't they 1774 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,800 Speaker 1: want us to think because we're all black and we 1775 01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,560 Speaker 1: all have this certain talent to be in front of 1776 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 1: this camera and to draw people in that we're in competition. 1777 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,240 Speaker 1: We're not in competition because we all have our own 1778 01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,600 Speaker 1: different stories and people, and our stories are different. So 1779 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,600 Speaker 1: I want people to understand that your voice is just 1780 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,200 Speaker 1: as big as anybody else's voice. You know. Just believe 1781 01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:14,599 Speaker 1: in your ship. And that's why I'm glad you're doing 1782 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:15,960 Speaker 1: y'all shit, bro, and I'm honored to be here. 1783 01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:17,679 Speaker 4: I'm glad we're gonna do this again. 1784 01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,120 Speaker 3: Man. Before we got out of here, we got asked 1785 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:19,439 Speaker 3: me about it. 1786 01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,080 Speaker 1: The VP. Oh, the VP. Oh that was that's a 1787 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,519 Speaker 1: good question. So I didn't want so me and Matt 1788 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:29,120 Speaker 1: argued for four days. When I got to what we 1789 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,639 Speaker 1: did it? Baby? What we do at uh? In DC? 1790 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:33,639 Speaker 1: We went to the VP house. When I got there, 1791 01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,200 Speaker 1: Matt was calling me to this true story. He was 1792 01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,000 Speaker 1: calling me to come out to eat. I'm not I'm 1793 01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,679 Speaker 1: screening his phone call. I don't want to be here, nigga. 1794 01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,439 Speaker 1: I don't want to be in politics. I don't want 1795 01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,720 Speaker 1: to do this on my line. Baby. We at home, 1796 01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,519 Speaker 1: me and Matt arguing, like we arguing about the shit 1797 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,240 Speaker 1: because the people that support me are not They look 1798 01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,080 Speaker 1: at how I look. He at it like answers to 1799 01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,960 Speaker 1: equality and to making America the way it's supposed to 1800 01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:01,160 Speaker 1: be is not rocket science. It's not rocket science. Bro, 1801 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,360 Speaker 1: y'all know how to give equality, to make people equal, 1802 01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,240 Speaker 1: just just how y'all put people ahead of us. So 1803 01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:09,760 Speaker 1: the same way to do that is to make it 1804 01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,280 Speaker 1: equality is real simple, dog, Just give people what they need. 1805 01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:13,320 Speaker 3: It's not rocket science. 1806 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:14,799 Speaker 1: So that's why I don't want to be in politics, 1807 01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,200 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of hope dealing. That's the end 1808 01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:18,840 Speaker 1: of the day. They then to hope them. They ain't 1809 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,160 Speaker 1: into actually trying to fix shit. They want you to 1810 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:22,840 Speaker 1: make They want to make you think that they got 1811 01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:24,640 Speaker 1: the ideas or they got plans to fix shit, and 1812 01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,040 Speaker 1: shit never gets fixed. So that's why I didn't want 1813 01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:28,639 Speaker 1: to be in politics. And I seen the first hand 1814 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,400 Speaker 1: with the George Fard situation. So when Matt was telling 1815 01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,280 Speaker 1: me about going to interview to VP, I'm not with 1816 01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 1: it because the people that support me feel the same 1817 01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,599 Speaker 1: way I feel. I don't trust up. I know it's 1818 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,559 Speaker 1: all bullshit. Nobody is really for us. I'm the president 1819 01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,960 Speaker 1: of my household, you know what I'm saying. I don't 1820 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,080 Speaker 1: give a fuck about who the president. I'm the president 1821 01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,040 Speaker 1: of my shit, you know what I'm saying. And That's 1822 01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,960 Speaker 1: how I looked at it. So Matt's looking at it 1823 01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,280 Speaker 1: as my business side. What is gonna do for our show? 1824 01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,240 Speaker 1: What's gonna do fire production Company? I'm not thinking that man, 1825 01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,439 Speaker 1: fuck that, you know, I'm not you know, So the 1826 01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,640 Speaker 1: hope even the day before, She'll tell you, I'm in 1827 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,360 Speaker 1: my room, Matt is calling me to come prep. Nigga. 1828 01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm not asking her phone No, nigga, I can. I 1829 01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,280 Speaker 1: can show you messages. I'm gonna show you'll. Let's let 1830 01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,719 Speaker 1: you know how real it is, nigga, because y'all my patners. 1831 01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say you how this, This is how I 1832 01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,640 Speaker 1: was doing him when he was sending me to the messages. Bro, 1833 01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you how I was doing him. 1834 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,720 Speaker 3: Hey, you don't want to hear about the collar greens, nigga. 1835 01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:24,679 Speaker 1: In the tub, Nigga, I don't want to hear about 1836 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:31,320 Speaker 1: not want to he Okay, Bro, I'm gonna show you 1837 01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,320 Speaker 1: this is the message my brother was sending me. 1838 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:40,040 Speaker 3: Look, hold on, hold on, hold on, holo, hold Look, 1839 01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,439 Speaker 3: he texted. He teld me something. I say. He said, 1840 01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:43,840 Speaker 3: I don't want to look. 1841 01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:45,960 Speaker 1: He say, So, you're not gonna you're gonna power and 1842 01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:46,960 Speaker 1: ignore me the whole time. 1843 01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:47,759 Speaker 3: You don't want to smoke. 1844 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:50,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to smoke, don't want to hang out, 1845 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:51,479 Speaker 1: don't want. 1846 01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:52,000 Speaker 7: To eat nothing. 1847 01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:55,400 Speaker 1: Do my job. Look, do my job and be out. 1848 01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,479 Speaker 3: Nigga, He say, big, you want to play CEO D 1849 01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:58,320 Speaker 3: trying to be funny. 1850 01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:06,840 Speaker 1: Nigga. Look, I'm seeing me in an asshole. I'm seeing 1851 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:11,200 Speaker 1: a video an asshole. You know what I'm saying. I 1852 01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,200 Speaker 1: was not talking to him, dogg. So even look Matt 1853 01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:15,519 Speaker 1: said on show that even when we got to the 1854 01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:19,599 Speaker 1: BP house, I'm sitting in there like this. You know me, Jason, 1855 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:21,920 Speaker 1: I was mostly on my sleeve. Boy, I can't high. 1856 01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm I don't want to be here because I know 1857 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,000 Speaker 1: perfect example, I told him that's my wife. I said, 1858 01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,519 Speaker 1: why don't you go do it? They came back. We 1859 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,560 Speaker 1: don't want to do it without him. Because I'm the 1860 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,720 Speaker 1: face of the biggest civil rights movement ever with the 1861 01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:40,720 Speaker 1: George Floyd Ship. I know why y'all want me there, 1862 01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,120 Speaker 1: using me as a pawn. I know what you're doing. 1863 01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,560 Speaker 1: Everybody else might not see it, but I see it. 1864 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and I wanted the benefit 1865 01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,960 Speaker 1: from the ship. I'm not thinking business wise. Well, I'm 1866 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,639 Speaker 1: glad I did that ship. You know how much shit 1867 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:57,320 Speaker 1: came for much doing the interview, all kind of ship coming. 1868 01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,559 Speaker 1: And so Matt was right, and I always follow him 1869 01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,720 Speaker 1: with business, you know what I'm saying. But I did 1870 01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:04,080 Speaker 1: not want it, and I still don't want to be 1871 01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,000 Speaker 1: in politics, you know what I'm saying. But let me 1872 01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:09,200 Speaker 1: say this too. They say, what's your wife of voting? 1873 01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,680 Speaker 1: I found my why? What is it? And let me 1874 01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,280 Speaker 1: tell you why. I found my why. I can't talk 1875 01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,920 Speaker 1: too much about it, but I was recently tased by 1876 01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:17,840 Speaker 1: the police from behind. I got stitches in my chin 1877 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:21,439 Speaker 1: right now, tased from behind just because I was a 1878 01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,880 Speaker 1: big guy. Recently, Bro and me seeing that George Floyd 1879 01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:26,960 Speaker 1: shit dealing with the police and artist and how they 1880 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:30,040 Speaker 1: was treating me. Donald Trump is talking about giving police immunity. 1881 01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:34,280 Speaker 1: So I found my why. I can't live my life 1882 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,560 Speaker 1: with the police treating y'all, my sons or anybody the 1883 01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,760 Speaker 1: way they planning to treat us. Bro. So that's my 1884 01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,160 Speaker 1: wife for voting. I just found my why, especially after 1885 01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:41,800 Speaker 1: how they treated me. 1886 01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:42,639 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1887 01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:43,880 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even know no dumb shit. 1888 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:44,920 Speaker 3: He tased me. 1889 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,240 Speaker 1: He told me tats because I was a big guy. 1890 01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,400 Speaker 1: Got I broke two teeth in the back, all that 1891 01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,920 Speaker 1: and get So I'm just that that's my wife, especially 1892 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,639 Speaker 1: since being throughing it now. I never voted. I don't 1893 01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,560 Speaker 1: believe in politics, but if I had to vote, that 1894 01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,560 Speaker 1: would be my why because I don't want him to 1895 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,760 Speaker 1: get police community because they're already treating us like ship. 1896 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,880 Speaker 1: Just imagine what they're gonna do if they know they 1897 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:05,719 Speaker 1: can get away. 1898 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,120 Speaker 2: With it right straight up, We're gonna have all my 1899 01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:09,599 Speaker 2: conversation about that situation. 1900 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,679 Speaker 3: Shout the freaky Mike, Yeah, shout out to some collar Greens. 1901 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,599 Speaker 3: Come on, man, hey, I did hear that story. 1902 01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,360 Speaker 1: Now, I've been in call of Greens all my life. 1903 01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:21,840 Speaker 3: I've never seen him getting. 1904 01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:26,920 Speaker 1: Cleaning the bathtub. They take this nigga, Come on, told youth, 1905 01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry every show, bro, when have you seeing anybody 1906 01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,479 Speaker 1: clean grings? They're gonna feel that sync up on both sides. 1907 01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,360 Speaker 1: They gonna feel that sup on both sides. Nobody's going 1908 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:44,200 Speaker 1: to the bathroom in the ketching niggas Greens in the tub, man, 1909 01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:49,200 Speaker 1: come on, he's hey. Next time somebody asks her who 1910 01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:52,280 Speaker 1: her favorite rapper is rapper is? It can't be Tupac 1911 01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,240 Speaker 1: because they say, who's your favorite rapper that's alive? 1912 01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,040 Speaker 3: And she said Tupac. I know what she meant. 1913 01:22:56,720 --> 01:23:03,880 Speaker 1: She ain't no judging for that. We ain't tell me. 1914 01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:04,880 Speaker 4: Regress of her. 1915 01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:06,640 Speaker 1: Chest clubfour twenty dot com. 1916 01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,120 Speaker 3: We got merchandile baby, We. 1917 01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:09,880 Speaker 4: Live till next time. Appreciate yall 1918 01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:12,719 Speaker 2: The volume