1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys 3 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: training live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Broughness, Rob Phillips, 5 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. What's up. It's Wednesday, August eighth from Oxnard, California. 6 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: Welcome into Talking Cowboys. Rob Phillips, Brian brought us Mickey 7 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: Spagnola at the River Ridge Complex here in Oxnard. Bill 8 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Jones has left me in the captain's chair for the 9 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: remainder of training camp. We've got a preseason game tomorrow 10 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: night in San Francisco. Will continue previewing that as well 11 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: for the next hour. Kent Garrison has got us on 12 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: the air. Thank you for that and welcome fellas. Good 13 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: to be here. Better believe it's Talking Cowboys. Yeah, did 14 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: you talk about cowboys last night? In your hand? Absolutely 15 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: all night long? Did you? Yes? All night? All night? 16 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: Who'd you harass? He mingled? That's you, He'll mingle, But 17 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: he'll harass though, too. Who'd you harass? No? Nobody? Really? Yeah, 18 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: you beat anybody down with your story. We're retracing the 19 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: annual media party that yeah, I'm sorry about so nice 20 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: to put on every year. They do it for Mickey? 21 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: Is what they do? Is it just for Mackace is 22 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: on the was a senior member of the media staff? 23 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: Am I right? Were you the senior member there yesterday 24 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: of media other than Brad Sham? Brad Sham Mike Fishers 25 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: cover this team for a long time. Not as long 26 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 1: as me. No, but I'm saying it's not as well either. 27 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: But wow, Okay, I knew, I knew I could get 28 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: this show started the right direction. He's going in, He's 29 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: going in for two minutes in. Can I ask a 30 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: real quick question? Yeah, bring Okay, I'm not gonna make 31 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: it a personal thing. Was it because newspapermen generally, No, 32 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm just serious. I'm serious about this because you did 33 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: you you covered it when there you got ink on 34 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: your hands, That's right. Did you watched the show The Post? 35 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: The movie The Post, which I absolutely love, great movie. 36 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: You you're You're That's how newspapers? That was? Mickey? Right? 37 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: Was it? Was it so competitive to this day that 38 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: you don't have good relationships with guys that were that 39 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: were part of that that that covered the team like 40 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: you covered the team. Is there's still that bitterness somewhat, 41 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: but only it seems like with the guys that were 42 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: at the Morning News, we kind of got along with 43 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: the guys at the Start Telegram, okay, but the gat 44 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: was Galloway. Was he with you or Hernings morning? Okay? Okay, yeah, 45 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: before he went over there, and you know guys like 46 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: Gary Myers. Yeah, you know, I don't like Gary Myers either, 47 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: put up with I don't like Lacey. At least now 48 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: we speak civilly to each other, you know, before I 49 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: just like, so if you guys were working shoulder to shoulder, 50 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: it was, it was it was difficult. I never teld 51 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: you my story from the preseason game in San Diego. No, 52 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: you know that press box, You're like, oh, I hate that. 53 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: Wait wait wait year was this nineteen eighty nine, eighty six? Maybe? Okay, 54 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: all right, and we're we're in the press box and 55 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: the Times heralds right now. It's good. This is good. 56 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: Until the left was the Morning News, right, we had 57 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: ordered that was back in the day when you had 58 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: to order a phone, the phone, you had to order 59 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: a phone. Yeah, they didn't provide phone, so the phone 60 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: is sitting next to me, in front of me, and 61 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: my guys are all to my right. Gary Myers is 62 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: on my left, and they forgot to order a phone. 63 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: Of course they did, right, ha ha ha right right uh. 64 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: And he reaches for the phone and I go, Gary, 65 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: you know that's our phone. Oh it is I go, yeah, 66 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: it is ours. We paid for it. And he goes, well, 67 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: it's okay if I use it. I said, you use 68 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: it now. But when it gets to nine forty five, right, 69 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: you can't use the phone. And and so it gets 70 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: to nine forty five and all of a sudden he 71 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: grabs the phone. I said, hey, what did I tell you? 72 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: And I took it and I put it over and 73 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: seat in front of the guy next to me. Yeah, 74 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: it's like, you cannot use our phone. See Vicky surprised. 75 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Vicky didn't roll up the sleeves the full day, put 76 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: your Jack Johnson. You know, we did bare knuckles. We 77 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: didn't get bought out by the Morning News because they 78 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: out competed us. Right, Okay, you know it was a war. 79 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: It was a battle. It's also just like who you are. 80 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: It's not it's not just the time period, No, it 81 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: is the time, it's who you are too. Who okay, 82 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: who on the other team did you respect? Who is 83 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: the most respected guy you said? You know when you 84 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: when you were battling with those cats, who was the 85 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: one guy you said? You know what? That guy he's 86 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: good at his I'm trying. I'm trying to remember when 87 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: see that time David Moore was at the fort Or 88 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: Star Telegram. Okay, and so David Moore a young guy 89 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: then and then he moved, Yeah, he moved to the 90 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: morning news. Um still covering the team. Yeah. Uh? Jan Hubbard, Yeah, 91 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: I think, um maybe maybe, and the guys that did 92 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: um kind of put him on the Hi. I'm trying 93 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: to think. I'm trying to remember the guys, the guys 94 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: that did baseball. Oh yeah, okay, who we weren't battling 95 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: back in Uh David David david that NBA right, Uh yeah, 96 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: the columnists, David Stevens, Yes, yes, how do I remember this? Yeah? 97 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: Thank you? Yeah, David, because you read him prod I did. 98 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: I enjoyed getting ink on my hand, David Davidson. Guys, guys, 99 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: he was a good cat. He was a good cat. 100 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: So things changed with those guys. Well, no, just the bitterness. 101 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, because I feel like, finally it's me. 102 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: It's competitive, but everybody gets along. It's like for the 103 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: most part. I mean, you obviously still have your enemies, 104 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: but yeah, Scouting, I'm I don't mean to throw you 105 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: into me, into your story, but Scouting, they're still guys 106 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: from twenty five years ago that I you know, I 107 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: see them and I my teeth grind a little bit. 108 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: I'm sure they do the same with me. I'm pretty 109 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: hated you probably, Oh, I just got into everybody's I 110 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: was always involved in everybody's business. Yeah, well not everybody's business, 111 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: but I but I was so I was like Mickey, 112 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm competitive. Yeah, you know, I wanted our group to 113 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: be better. You know, I was a little I wasn't cocky, 114 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: you know, but I just you know, I think there's 115 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: a certain way you do your job, but you want 116 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: to be better than the guys. You're battle and you're 117 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: you're the only way we got to measure ourselves. And 118 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: is the wins losses, Like in those three years, I mean, 119 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: I come from off a super Bowl winning team to 120 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: go in five and eleven for three straight years. And 121 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: the great documentary is about to come out today about 122 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: that the you know, the Bill Parcels the last ride, 123 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: which you were gracious enough to pay. But I'm saying, yeah, 124 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: Mickey covered the team. We were god awful. We were 125 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: we were got off it. It reminded me of it 126 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: reminded me of a time where I'm like, gosh, can 127 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: I do I know what the hell I'm doing here? 128 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: Do I know? Do am I helping this team? Am 129 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: I doing? That's that's the thing about I appreciate Parcels 130 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: coming in and changing over. But the whole story, though, 131 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: is we're all competitive. Yeah. I mean, Mickey didn't want 132 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: them to get a story. I didn't want them to 133 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: draft a guy. So I can understand where he's coming. 134 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: I can understand the sports hate a little bit. But 135 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, there's some of these guys that do they 136 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: rub you the wrong way and you just in it's 137 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: twenty five year long grudge, you know, And and maybe 138 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: that's a bad way to live. No, I mean it 139 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: is probably not healthy. And in the newspaper business, you 140 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: were every day with these guys. Yeah, it wasn't just 141 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: here every day with these guys. You know, you're you're 142 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: living training camp with him. You went out and had 143 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: drinks with him last night. I did. I wouldn't do that. 144 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: He did mingle though he did. He did move around. 145 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: Oh no, he's to move around seven or Spagnola, Illinois. 146 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: I got another another good one for you. No, Rob's 147 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: heard this story. So it was training camp eighty six. Yeah. Uh, 148 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys had just won the rights to herschel Walker 149 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: and Tom and I'm I'm in thousand Oaks in my room. 150 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: I gotta do a big, long takeout on herschel Walker. 151 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: And I called him put a. I got a phone number, 152 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: called him, left a message. It is eleven o'clock out here, 153 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: So that's two o'clock in the morning in New Jersey 154 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: where he was staying and probably Trump Tower or whatever 155 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: wherever he was. And I get a phone call, Hi, 156 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: this is herschel Walker voice, herschel Walker. Yeah, and I 157 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: I've never heard this story and I I wasn't gonna 158 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 1: buy it. Like he's calling me at two am. And 159 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: my college roommate covered Georgia for the Atlanta Paper when 160 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: he was playing there, and he had his voice down 161 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: perfectly high pitch, high pitch kind of squealing, and I go, 162 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: this is John. I just know it's John and I'm 163 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: not buying in and I just like, hi, thanks for 164 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: calling me back, and I and I just like innocuous 165 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: stuff because I didn't believe it was him, right, well 166 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: it was him. Yeah. Finally it came around and I said, oh, 167 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: this is really him. So we have this half hour conversation. 168 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: I had written this long story. Now I got to 169 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: go back and put stuff in him. Right. So at 170 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: the end, he goes, um, do you know Gary Myers? 171 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: And I go, yeah, I do, and he goes, well, 172 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: he uh. He tried to call me too, and I 173 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: didn't get an answer for him. Could you leave him 174 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: a message that I called? And I said absolutely, I 175 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: will no story. He never got that message. Good deal. Well, 176 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's competitive in the newspaper business, competitive 177 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: and scouting environment. It's competitive on the football field, right. 178 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: You gotta respect for your opponent, but you gotta, you know, 179 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: do whatever it takes to win. The Cowboys are trying 180 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: to lay that foundation these last two weeks in camp. 181 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: They've got a game tomorrow. That's a really good transition 182 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: on his part. Thank you, Thank you, broadcaster. Then one 183 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: more week when they get back on Friday, running of days. Yeah, 184 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: before they get back to Frisco and then continue training 185 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: camp there. Let's continue evaluating what we've seen and maybe 186 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: take an eye towards tomorrow night. Hey, let me touch 187 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: on what you just said. Go ahead. So you finished 188 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: training camp here, but it's not over, No, it's not. 189 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: So do the coaches have to work really hard when 190 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: they get back to get them to start concentrating again 191 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: like they did here because now you're home, you're living 192 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: at home, you got your family. Do you lose your 193 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: concentration on what you gotta do because this is gonna 194 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: be two of days there too, and you got a 195 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: young team. That's a good point. The thing that I 196 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: think you get their attention is you remind them every 197 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: day that the days are running out. You know, you're 198 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: trying to make a football team. I mean, there's there's 199 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: a lot of spots that are up for this. Yeah, 200 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: on this team, it's not and there's no cuts, yeah, 201 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: and there's no cuts to the final one. So you 202 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: have got to carry this thing through September first, you know, 203 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: and even after September one. There's other teams playing preseason 204 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: games too, and they might determine that, you know, you're 205 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: not good enough, and we're gonna go get this guy 206 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: from the Buccaneers or we're gonna get this guy from 207 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: the Rams. So there's I think to answer your question, Mickey, 208 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: there's always that pressure if you if you don't realize 209 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: what's ahead and stay focused, you're gonna get cut. Because 210 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: if you if you lose at the at the final ten, 211 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, twelve days or whatever we're at right now, 212 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: if you start losing concentration, don't play, don't practice well, 213 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: don't play well in the preseason, it won't matter. But 214 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: you've got to You've got to carry this thing through. 215 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, when you get back home, Yeah, there's gonna 216 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 1: be more distractions because you're probably gonna be sleeping in 217 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: your own bed, You're probably gonna be family members are 218 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,599 Speaker 1: gonna be around. But you got to focus in on 219 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: where you at, where are you right now, on as 220 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: far as the roster, where you're on the depth chart, 221 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: all these things. You need to be like Antoine Woods, 222 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: those guys mean, Mickey's brought his name up a long 223 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: time ago. Yeah, you need to keep pushing. You need 224 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: to keep pushing Rico Gathers, keep pushing to try and 225 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: make them make a decision about you as a as 226 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: a tied end on this team. What do you think happens? Now? 227 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: They'll put the young guys up in the hotel, Yeah 228 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: next door, have a job, yeah next Now will there 229 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: be curfews? Dallas ism Frisco's a nice down and you've 230 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: been you know, kind of held up here for three 231 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: three and a half. But a lot of these players, 232 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: if you remember, guys every day at the start, when 233 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: we come to work, we look on the field, A 234 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: lot of those rookies are out there running. I wonder 235 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: if somebody get kids have got apartments and stuff already, 236 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: so maybe they don't need to be but yeah, next door, 237 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: the kids that don't have places, they put next door. 238 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: But I think it's I think it's you know, I 239 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: don't know about the curfew aspect of it, but I 240 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: feel like though that there's you have to monitor what's 241 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: going up. But you need your own self discipline, if 242 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: you know, if you look what happened in Cleveland with 243 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: that kid, you know, you know Callaway, you know he 244 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: gets in trouble and now it's news and you know, 245 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: now his careers started off badly, you know that way 246 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: you just can't find yourself to get you can't be 247 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: getting in trouble because don't give them a reason to 248 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: cut you. Make them cut you or keep you because 249 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: of what you're doing on the field, not because you're 250 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: at or find establishments around the star and having a 251 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: little bit too much fun out out of the deck 252 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: of concrete Cowboy, And Yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen. 253 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: I don't think that's an easy walking though. Yeah, that 254 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: is an easy walk in plain side of Ford Center. 255 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: And now they just can't lose focus. That's that's the thing. 256 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: But I don't I don't worry about that as much 257 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: as I would for another football team in this team's past, 258 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: because of I mean, we've gone up and down the roster. 259 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: There's there's some guys that you know what their spots are. 260 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: Most of the guys don't. I mean, they may make 261 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: the team, but they're not guaranteed to start. They're not 262 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: guaranteed to get consistent snaps. I think you've talked about 263 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver the team. The guys that are gonna make 264 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: the team at wide receiver are going to be the 265 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: most consistent guys for three and a half weeks and 266 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: then into the star practices as well. Maybe the good 267 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: thing is is when they return, you got a game 268 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: to play the next day, right, and so it'll be 269 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: treated like a night before a game. Everybody will be um. 270 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: You know, you try and scramble the best you can't 271 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: in the hotel, and then the night before they stay 272 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: at the hotel. But then there's that that next day 273 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: it's a day off. Yeah, and then you get back 274 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: on Monday and you gotta get reminded that hey, we 275 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: got two days and this stuff is not over. You know, 276 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: you changed locations, but it's not over. And I could 277 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: remember back in the day when they had split camps 278 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: and we changed locations and the next practice was just 279 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: got off. Yeah. Well, and to your point, this is 280 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: kind of a that's a good point. This is always 281 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: a benchmark time for me anyway, watching a team around camp, 282 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: these last two practices that they've had, because they had 283 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: one in the afternoon, typical pad practice. Then you turn 284 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: around and you have Garrett has been grinding them so 285 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: much he decided, let's see you get something out of 286 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: these practices if you scout them. Yeah, okay, So what 287 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: did you think of those last two practices? Because you're 288 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: to a point in camp where they've been grinding in pads. 289 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: They see an opponent coming up and they're sick of 290 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: each other. Right, what have you seen these last two days? 291 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: If I could real quick, Mickey, I'll tell you where 292 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: it became very evident to me. Standing in the corner 293 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: of this exact corner we're behind, they throw a vertical 294 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: route to Tavon Austin along with Jordan Lewis and coverage, 295 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: and both are on the dead sprint to try and 296 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: get the balls overthrown. And what happens. Instead of jogging back, 297 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: they both turned and walked together up the field and 298 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: you and you could this was the non pad. This 299 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: this is where I think Garrett looked at his team 300 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,119 Speaker 1: a little bit and he saw how much these receivers 301 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: are running and these defensive backs are running non stop. 302 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: You go down here, linebacker drills, Ben Bloom. I know 303 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: it's football, folks, I get it, I really do. But you, 304 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: as a former guy, former scout, you get something out 305 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: of these practice. You can evaluate how hard the practice is. 306 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: I give Garrett a lot of credit for that, the 307 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: tempo of the practice, the physicality of the practice. But 308 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: I think he looked at guys like I saw my 309 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: own eyes, you know, Tabon Fraser, Tabon Austin, who can 310 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: run all day, and him and Jordan Lewis are kind 311 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: of like both kind of looking at each other like, okay, 312 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: we survived another one. And then they go walking back, 313 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: but you could tell there's a little bit of soreness 314 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: to him. You know, he's just trying to help them 315 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: get through. And I think there's a lot of guys 316 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: that are like those two guys out there. And it 317 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: sounded like he made a mental note during that practice 318 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: that hey, I may need to talk to my staff 319 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: and we may need to tail it back a little 320 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: bit on him. They did. How about the one the 321 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: compete thing with vander eshh, Yeah, and he was gonna 322 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: go for the fourth time in a row, and they 323 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: were running wheel routes and he's running thirty forty yards 324 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: downfield trying to cover the full back up and he 325 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: goes back up there and it's like, well, you're not 326 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: gonna make that guy, Garrett, I mean, Garrett's gas. I 327 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: give Garrett credit again for that too. Garrett looked at 328 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: like quickly Bloom tries to or that no Brown tries 329 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: to send an Ola Wally on yah run. Garrett's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, 330 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: what's going on here? You know? And the vanders is 331 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: like he's just lining up, like, hey, I'll do whatever 332 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: you want me to do. But yeah, I think that 333 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: Garrett that It's one of my criticisms of Garrett has 334 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: been not knowing the condition of his team. It's sometimes 335 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: in games, you know, And there he showed me, Hey, 336 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: he learned, he's seen something. He was able to read 337 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: his team. He knew these guys had been practicing hard. 338 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: He wasn't just throwing him a bone because he's a 339 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: good guy. He was throwing him. He was throwing him 340 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: a bone because he was He's like, Okay, I've worked 341 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: these guys hard. They've They've given me everything that I've 342 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: asked from them, and a little bit more. I need 343 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: to back off him a little bit. I think that 344 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: was a smart play getting ready. You want these guys 345 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: in tomorrow night in San Francisco to be at their 346 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: absolute best. I mean, somebody actually came up to me 347 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: after that practice and said his Vanderish in bad shape. 348 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: I go, what are you talking about? And he goes, oh, 349 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: I saw him Ben over grabbing his shorts and I said, 350 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: do you do you realize what took place? You know? 351 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: And to your point, think about the day before the 352 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: blue white practice when he did the little deal where okay, 353 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: pick a guy, a non skilled guy to catch a punt. 354 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: If he catches it, we're not running, and he kind 355 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: of knew they didn't need to run, right, you know. 356 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: And then and then that's Martin catches the ball and 357 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: everybody goes crazy. But he was starting to see, you 358 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: know what, I better start backing off. Just you know, 359 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: those wide receivers at one point there was only seven 360 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: of them out right, and and you could see they're 361 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: running and running and running, and then they're running the 362 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: sprints at the end and then the sprints at the end, 363 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: and they were they were in they were in last. 364 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: The seven of them were all in last place every time, 365 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: and they were just dragon. I think, like I say, 366 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: he's been critical before, but knowing your team is part 367 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: of the coaching dealing. I think that if you check that, 368 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: mark Off is like, hey, I think he's understanding it. 369 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: He has to do the age. These practices are great 370 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: to watch from a fence if you're out here along 371 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: the fence line, or if you're standing on the end 372 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: zone like we get to you know, you could see it. 373 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: Do you watch what we do with training Camp live? 374 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: You could see the competitive aspect of practice. It's a 375 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: it's a grind every every rep, no doubt about it. Well, Nick, 376 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: let's back off for just a couple of minutes, take 377 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: a break, come back. 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But 427 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: like I say, the thing on Dallas Cowboys dot com today, 428 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: I wrote something about each pition your beast not tried. 429 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: I mean I just kind of something maybe to look 430 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: for when you in the game, just you know, kind 431 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: of an idea of who's competing for what positions? Who 432 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: probably needs to get off to a good start, So 433 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: that will be up later day. I know some people 434 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: on Twitter ask me, hey, who do you who are 435 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: you looking at? I know we're gonna probably do something. 436 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: We've every thing in traditional where we do like the 437 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: gut feeling with a couple of guys that we were 438 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: looking at, you know, kind of that thing. So a 439 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: lot of things still on Dallas Cowboys dot Com that 440 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, pertaining to what we're doing with the shows. 441 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: But you know what we're kind of going to look 442 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: for to se should be up a little bit later, definitely, 443 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: we'll look forward to that should be up on Dallas 444 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys Mobile soon. How about your Deep Blue thing today? Yeah, 445 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: that is that's airing today live. You've got to check 446 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: that out right. Where can I find it? Yeah, Dallas 447 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com, Facebook, Live, Twitter, the app, all our 448 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 1: connected devices. Three pm Central, one pm Pacific Live Parcel's 449 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: Final Ride. It is incredible, folks on regular TV, not 450 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: no deep but it will be locally um leading up 451 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: to the game tonight tonight to night to night. Sorry, 452 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: so like uh, seven o'clock, it's a nine o'clock game 453 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: out there, so seven o'clock, the pregame shows eight to 454 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,239 Speaker 1: the probably seven eight ken is that right? It may 455 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: need I mean need confirmation on that one. But but 456 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot of avenues to see this. That's that's 457 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: the forty two minute version, right, Yeah, this is the 458 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: full one in its that's correct. It's too different. The 459 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: one that's on CBS had to be cut down to 460 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: forty two minutes for TV. The actual one that it 461 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 1: was we're putting on our website and on all our 462 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: platforms is an hour in twenty So there's forty extra minutes. Basically, 463 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: you'll see it. Yeah, yeah, you can see it in 464 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: your entire in its entirety today. So you overwrote, Well, 465 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: we we had so much great stuff. I mean, ken't 466 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: just some of the stuff we on Earth, some of 467 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: the old press conferences, uh, the interviewers, the interody and 468 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: and Greg Ellis and Mike Zimmer, Sean Payton, I mean, 469 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: and that Chris Mortenson, mean, so many people that were 470 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: involved in all that. That was my answer to my editors. 471 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: They said you overwrote. I said I was too good 472 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: to leave anything. Well, I mean, hey, Kent was like, look, 473 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna put together the best possible stuff and just 474 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: see how long it goes. And that's when we got 475 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: everything we could in there, the last drop of it. 476 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: So I think everybody will enjoy it. It chronicles the 477 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: O three season bill coming in and also his impact 478 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: on the organization in the four years that he was 479 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: Can I promote one another thing? Hit it? Okay? We 480 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: do a thing with Alexa, Yes, sir, and it's if 481 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: if you guys have the Alexa Divide. I'm learning a 482 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: lot about it and we do a lot of content 483 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: for it for Dallas Cowboys. For the Dallas Cowboys. When 484 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: you ask Alexa question, give me news about the Cowboys. Yeah, 485 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: how you're through your Amazon right, So we're doing a 486 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: lot of things on that. So if you have any 487 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: questions that you want to get answered for that, make 488 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: sure you submit it to at Brian broad Us because 489 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: I like doing that stuff, answering those questions, and Rob 490 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: does a good job of kind of getting everybody involved. 491 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: But I've I've liked the way that's going with the 492 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 1: Alexa So if you do have questions and you want 493 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: to get him answered that way, let me know, send 494 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: him to me and then Rob and I will work 495 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: to get those things answered as well. We got daily 496 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: do that all season, yep, daily updates. Lindsay's involved with 497 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: it too. We'll be talking to players, getting some quick 498 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: bites from players, exclusive stuff. If you have a question 499 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: right for a player that you want us to try 500 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: to get answered for you, tweet me at Rob Phillips 501 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: three or at lens Cast Draper and we'll see what 502 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: we can do. Get exclusive. Exclusive. It's exclusive, exclusive, exclusive. 503 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: It's a great way. I mean, you did it with 504 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: me the other day and you could kind of you could, 505 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: you could center it just keeps going news news, news, news, 506 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean you could just keep everything you want to hear. 507 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: So again the avenue for answering some questions that way 508 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: might be good as well. Wherever you are making her smart, 509 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: then huh, we're trying. We're always What are the cowboys doing? Yeah, exactly, 510 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: here are what the cowboys are doing. Alexa's knowledge is growing. Yes, indeed. 511 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's hit the phone lines. First call 512 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: of the show, Miles in Connecticut. What's up? You're on 513 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: talking cowboys? Hey guys, how you doing? A long time listener? 514 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: A big, big fan of the show. Great, thanks, I 515 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: just wanted to say to my main man, Brian there 516 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: man if he if he loved football and the xes 517 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: and os and all that, Brian, you're You're a dream 518 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 1: for all of us. Thank you appreciate that. It's very 519 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: kind of really really appreciate it. So I know we've 520 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: got a lot of depth and a lot of positions 521 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: across the board, especially on defense. And who's like the 522 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: guy for all you guys like your pet cat right now, 523 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: the guy who'd like bang on the table for to 524 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: make this team. That's a good question, he had. The 525 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: original one, you were the first guy question? Was first 526 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: guy to talk about Antoine really, because I was standing 527 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: there next to Clancy Pendergast, the Cowboys former assistant who's 528 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: at USC. I'm talking with him and number sixty four 529 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: comes walking by. I got no idea who he is. 530 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: And Jerry looks at him and starts saying, Hey, you 531 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: know what got my eye on you? Yeah, got my 532 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: eye on you, and he says, don't let up, and 533 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: the kid turns and goes, I don't know what that means, right, 534 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: And I instantly said, I like this guy. I don't 535 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: know anything about him. So I started asking Clancy and 536 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: he goes, oh, yeah, that's my guy, donnah, and then 537 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: you go talk to him and it's like okay. And 538 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: then the next day or two days later, he's in 539 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: that goal line drill, you know, making tackles, getting penetration, 540 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,479 Speaker 1: doing the little worm crawl on the ground, and it's like, okay, well, 541 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: let's keep an eye on this guy. And then the 542 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: next day he's on the first team. It's amazing, he's 543 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: done a nice job and he hell, at this point 544 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: he might be your week one starter, ye, the way 545 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: things are going, because yeah, I mean he got well 546 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: you got jahad Ward in that mix. Remember he came 547 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: he Malik played the three technique right originally his rookie 548 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: years did. Maybe it's those two guys. It's two big 549 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: bodies inside if you're gonna do it that way, But yeah, 550 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: you got a pet cat Bran. Well, I'll tell you 551 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: what I've kind of gone through my mind of you know, 552 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: initially it really started up. I love what I'm seeing 553 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: with these cornerbacks, you know, and I think if you 554 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: again you go through what a what I wrote today 555 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: on for Dallas Scotways dot com and he went position 556 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: by positions today just kind of give me a yeah, 557 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: give it a read. But you know we've early initially 558 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: Donovan Olumba was showing me some things and number thirty 559 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: two at the corner, and then all of a sudden, 560 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: there's here comes Davis Ward, Verius Ward. He comes in. 561 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: Now he's starting to play. I'm interested to see because 562 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: there's gonna be there's a battle. There's gonna be a 563 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: battle for those I think for that final two spots. 564 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: Who is going to be I think he could probably 565 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: get four. But if they keeps six, who is going 566 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: to be the guy with Ward, with Alumba, with Duke Thomas, 567 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, with that group, who who is going to 568 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: be the guys that play well enough in mar kids 569 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: White's I'm saying, there's I think there's four guys battling 570 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: for two spots spots and and maybe maybe if if 571 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: three of those guys show up out of the four, okay, 572 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: does that allow you to maybe move somebody to pick 573 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: up something from another team. Again, I'm looking at positions 574 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: that maybe have a little but the best surplus to 575 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: get the best return. So you know, maybe this is 576 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: a position need to keep an eye on. If somebody 577 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: in that group of six, you know, like I said, 578 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: I don't think they trade starters and stuff like that, 579 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: but some of those backups keep an eye on that position. 580 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: But the pet Cats, it's got to be those cornerbacks 581 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: right now, because I'm fascinated to see which one of 582 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: them will, which two of them of those five and 583 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: six will make this football team. About you, well, I've 584 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: been watching wide receiver probably more than any position in camp. 585 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm I'm fascinated with how many guys they've 586 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 1: got in camp and how many guys could potentially make 587 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: this team if they have a strong enough preseason. I mean, 588 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that have some talent. They've 589 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: just got to put it all together and they got 590 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: to figure out the right and mix for Dak One 591 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: guy who's gonna make the team, who I just Michael 592 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: Gallup to me, is going to be a very good 593 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: player in this league. I don't know if it's gonna 594 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: happen this year where he's gonna be a go to guy, 595 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: but I've seen it. You guys have seen it. Stephen 596 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: Jones told us during the Blue White You know, they 597 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: just they love him. They think he's got a really 598 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: high ceiling it's just gonna be a matter of consistency 599 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: from him. So I can't wait to see what he 600 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: does in the preseason games. A guy that is more 601 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: on the bubble is lancelo Or Junior. Yeah, and Mickey 602 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: and I were watching practice two days ago and you 603 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: kind of nudge me and said, he's gonna steal somebody's job. 604 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: And he keeps this up. Now, I don't know if 605 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. I think he had a drop or 606 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: two later, one drop, yeah, yeah, after he made some 607 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: fabulous catch. He's made some circus catches. I think every 608 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: day in my notes that I put out that, I 609 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: think every day I've written about him making a catch, 610 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: and it's almost been the catch of the day, you know, 611 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: whether it's a turning, adjusting, reaching one hand, leap diving, 612 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: diving off the ground, lunging, you know, he's I'm just 613 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: very hopeful of these guys that were mentioning that they've 614 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: looked good in camp. I just hope they can all 615 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: carry into the games. I just don't need I don't need, 616 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't need, uh, I don't need Woods to look 617 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: so good against Zack Martin and Travis Frederick and those 618 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 1: guys and then go out there and get blocked by 619 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: some backup. There's obviously some reason Tennessee let him go, right, Yeah, 620 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: so I mean people make mistakes. Yeah, he's not. He 621 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: doesn't have the measurables that you look at. Yeah, who 622 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: knows how the style of defense they're playing, they're knowing 623 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: and and and speaking of Lenor, just from watching the practices, 624 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be the first one up on punt 625 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: return to Uh. They they think he can do that. 626 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: And if he can do that, then he separates himself 627 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: from maybe some of the other you know, not Beasily. 628 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: Of course, Beasley is your guy inside the twenties, go 629 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: catch it, but you know, maybe maybe they get if 630 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: they're using Tavon Austin in so many different ways, maybe 631 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 1: they take that away from him. If Lenora can do it. Now, 632 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: remember we saw him last year and then he got 633 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame game and the ball clanks 634 00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: off number fourteen's chest. Yeah, and when rams game too, right, Yeah, 635 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: when you said that, Brian reminded me of a guy. 636 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: And I'm not knocking him. He's not here anymore. Andy Jones. Yeah, 637 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: he had a terrific set of practices out here a 638 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: year or two ago, and then the price season games 639 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: came along and he struggled, you know, just got here, Yeah, 640 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: trying to run routes inside. He's dropped, and I remember 641 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: that he made but he made the practice, he made 642 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: the practice squad or they cut him. I don't think 643 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: they brought him back because I remember talking to somebody 644 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: and they said, you know, sometimes you get out there 645 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: and the lights are too bright. Yeah, yeah, that's I 646 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: just want these guys that are all in competitive situations. 647 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: And that's just the selfiest side of me, because yeah, 648 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: I want Will McClay the front off as the coaches. 649 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: I want them to be able to put the best 650 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: fifty three together they can just so they can go 651 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: compete against the Eagles and the Giants and the Redskins 652 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: and Carolina. I that's that's what you want. You want whatever, 653 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: these young guys that can step up and make plays. 654 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: That's important. You know, you don't want to be a 655 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: team that's gone all through training camp and then you 656 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: have to claim like four guys because your guys can't 657 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: make plays. Right now, You're having to start from square 658 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: one with those guys. She's like, Okay, well, you know, 659 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm not against claiming one or two guys, I'm really not. 660 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: But some of these teams have to claim four or 661 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: five six guys just because their their roster is not 662 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: good enough. And I'm hopeful that everybody that's on this 663 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: roster currently when we get to the September one, you 664 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: know that way say well, it's gonna be a difficult cut. 665 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: It's really not because you know who you're gonna you know, 666 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: you know who you want to play with, but you 667 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: want to be that you want to be that team 668 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: that's been able to say, Okay, man, we gotta go 669 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: with this guy, we gotta go with this guy, we 670 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: gotta go with this guy, you know, and we all 671 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: picked kind of somewhat visible position backup offensive line. That's 672 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: that's a good that's a goold group. Yeah, what what 673 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: do they got there? Well, they've got a good starting five. Yeah, 674 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: we know. I think Joe Looney's played himself into a 675 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: position where you could kind of say, wow, Joe. I 676 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: think Joe Looney looks like a different player out here. 677 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: He's nick he brought up. Maybe he's in better shape. 678 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't look as round as Joe Looney 679 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: normally looks and I think when you watch him fake 680 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: zeke you the fake ze. But you watch him go 681 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: up against Woods, who we kind we like, and you 682 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: see him go against Jahad Warden those guys, you know, 683 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: he's playing on his feet, he's square, he's he's got 684 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: his hands inside, you know. And he got into blue 685 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: the Blue White practice the other day with the starting 686 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: five or the starting at that time. You know, he 687 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: was with the first first group. They didn't really miss 688 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: a beat, you know, with him in there there. You know, 689 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: he's the one thing I have notice with Joe, snaps 690 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: tend to be a little high sometimes and shotgun. We 691 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: need to kind of work on that and get that 692 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: spread up. But other than that, his mobility and agility, 693 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: it's been really good. And it's deceptive because you look 694 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: at him and you go huh, and then he's got 695 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: the jumbo Joe damaged classical. He is a clown, but 696 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: he has shown he can play and he can probably 697 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: play guard too, But you still need a legitimate backup guard. 698 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: I don't think they know if they've got that guy, well, well, 699 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: could it beat Marcus Martin if he can get I 700 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: guess weight wise, where he wants to be. I don't 701 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: know if that's the case. He's been conditioning out here. 702 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: To sound crazy, I think Kadeem Edwards has played better 703 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 1: than him. Yeah yeah, I think you know number seven, 704 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: Kadeem Edwards is not the strongest guy, but Kadeem Edwards is. 705 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: He's He's again. The mobility is good, the agility is good. 706 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: You know, he's Marcus Martin needs a wake up call. 707 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: He does, and maybe because they took him off the 708 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: field a couple of times. They said, listen, you're too 709 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: you're too big, you know, don't go beat don't go 710 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: go eat with Brian broad Us at at lunch and 711 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: dinner over here, you know, go go something you know 712 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: has been Go to the Mickey Spagnola area and heat, 713 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, the salad and stuff like that. Don't go 714 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: do you know do that? You know? I you know 715 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: they brought him in. He's probably thinking, hey, I got 716 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: a job. Everything's okay, but there there's some questions about 717 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: him making this football. He's got to do more than 718 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: take up space, and he takes up a lot of space. 719 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: His body taught. Yeah, go ahead, I know I'm saying, 720 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: but at some point you gotta play. Yeah, And and 721 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: then you know who's who I mean back up center? Yeah? 722 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: Is it Zach? Well? Yeah, Joe And you know Zach Martin. 723 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: I saw it, he practiced, practiced, And then and then 724 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: the tackles you're gonna keep two of those guys, you know, 725 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: is is is fleming the answer? See, this is where 726 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: you're counting on. This is where I wrote about today though, 727 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: because and people don't you know, Vick and Ventura does 728 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: not want me to say this, But since they've moved 729 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: Chad's green to write tackle, he's played better. Yes, he 730 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 1: has played better. His reps have been better, his technique 731 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: has been better, his footwork has been better. He hasn't 732 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't get he doesn't look out of sorts when 733 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: he's setting, and you know he's doing some things in 734 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: the running game to cut off. He hasn't been terrible 735 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 1: with that. So folks, trust me, keep an open mind 736 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: about what's going on at this tackle spot. They have 737 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: not given up on Chad's green, and neither should you. 738 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: And you know, and I trust me. I know out 739 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: there everybody's throwing their pins and getting mad at me 740 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: for saying that. But if if he can if he's 741 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: better than Fleming. You know, he's he's playing games for 742 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: you and had success. But he did have a disaster 743 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. We all know that. But we shouldn't just 744 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: judge him on the Atlanta game. You know, this right 745 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: tackle thing now, I don't know if he could be 746 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: your swing tackle, Mickey, because if you put him back 747 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: over on the left side, maybe he's not confident on 748 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: the left side. Maybe he's much more confident on the 749 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: right side. But if they keep working with him on 750 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: the right side, maybe he will develop some confidence to 751 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: get over on that left side and give Cam Fleming 752 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: a run for his money. You know. I mean I 753 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 1: was talking to with once that you think they wouldn't 754 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: keep both, right, they would keep they would keep one 755 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 1: if there's some people, there's some people. If he can, yeah, 756 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: they could they have before? Yeah, I mean that's that's 757 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: guard center, guard two tackles. It's it's hard. You would 758 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: like a developmental guy though, right, that's where maybe the 759 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: Buccaneers guy or the Saints guy. Yeah, that's what they did. 760 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: Who's my guy? I always forget his name. I'm sorry 761 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: I do this because I played some games. Jonville. Yeah, 762 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: Jeremy Parnell. Jeremy Parnell. Jeremy Parnell came off the Saints 763 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: like practice squad. You know, they kind of they got 764 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: an idea of where you know, Jeremy Parnell was serviceable 765 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: for you. I mean, he did it, he did it. 766 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: Was it terrible? I mean, I know there were some 767 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 1: times where he Mickey I could feel just I could 768 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: feel Mickey just burning holes in here right now. But 769 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's not the sun, but he's he got 770 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: signed and paid. But but he wasn't terrible. Well he was, 771 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: he was, but to your point, he was truly developmental. 772 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: He was a basketball player at all. Right, Yeah, right, See, 773 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: this is where I would maybe do with our basketball 774 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: guy number eighty. I'd maybe teach him how to be 775 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: an offensive tackle. He's two eighty two right now. Maybe 776 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: if you worked with him full time on being attack 777 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: just being a tackle. Yes, but don't worry about runner 778 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: routes anymore. God had you three years now trying to 779 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: make him a tight end, and he's showing progress. You know, 780 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. Yeah, but you tackle eligible. Yeah, 781 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that call. I could do that, 782 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: you could do that. I just to me. I don't 783 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: give up on Chaz Green. I swear the mentions right 784 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 1: now on Twitter are going and he's probably been drinking 785 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: his gatorade because he's finished all finished practices. But I 786 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: think I think he I think he's one of those 787 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: guys that got beat down. I'm pulling for I think 788 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: he really got beat down by the whole There's people, 789 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 1: there's people I've talked to the believe that you could 790 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: actually trade him and get something. And people again are going, oh, 791 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 1: bag of balls, bucket of gatorade. You know No, there's 792 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: there's and you know what, And the other part about it, 793 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: he's he's really a nice guy. He's a super nice guy. 794 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: But he's pay because he's a nice guy. Pulling for 795 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: him because they need somebody. They need somebody to step 796 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: up if something happens to one of those tackles. They 797 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: need that. After the game, he has talent number one 798 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 1: and number two. After Atlanta, he stood there in front 799 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: of fifty media guys and when he knew he was 800 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 1: got awful and stood there and took all the questions. 801 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: That's on the coaches too, now, yeah, yeah, that's on 802 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: the coaches. You can't be late to change. And I 803 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,479 Speaker 1: think the coaches realize that, and and and and maybe 804 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: the good thing too out here is they haven't screwed 805 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: around with them at at at guard, Yes, he spin 806 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: at tackle the whole Carrot admitted that he admitted that, 807 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: All right, well, we'll keep an eye on number seventy nine, Thursday, 808 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: five and sixty, all of them. Yeah, all but see what, 809 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: let me see another thing. You need those backup guys 810 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: to be good to help your evaluation of your quarterback 811 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: in the running back, Yeah, give Cooper rush the chance. Yeah, 812 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: give Cooper Rushing a chance. You got some veteran guys. 813 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 1: Joe Looney playing center will help. You know. You got Flemming, 814 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: he started a Super Bowl, you know, get him out there. 815 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: You know. If Chaz Green's playing right tackle, hold up 816 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: Chaz Green, do good, do the best you can, you know, 817 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: and then kind of work some things around with the guard. 818 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: Marcus Martin has played in the league, go with him. 819 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: You want these linemen to give Cooper rush In Mike 820 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: White a chance so you can evaluate not only the receivers, 821 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: but how about those runners. Right, you got, I think 822 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: you got, I think you got with three runners for 823 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: one spot Am I right about this the way the 824 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: runners are? Yes, because I think I think Jackson, I 825 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: think Derris Jackson's got his name in the race. Now 826 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: see that's I'm saying. Jackson's in the race, Scarborough's in 827 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: the race, Williams is in the race. You want to 828 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: see one of those guys. You want to see one 829 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,479 Speaker 1: of those guys really emerged. Now, traditionally they keep draft picks. 830 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: That's this NFL. That's just not the Cowboys. But traditionally 831 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 1: they keep draft picks. But you want to be able 832 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,479 Speaker 1: to evaluate those guys. And if you have a good line, 833 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: it helps the quarterback receivers, help the QUEI know, you 834 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: get a good evaluation if your whole team with a 835 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: with a veteran group of guys playing in front, soast go. 836 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 1: So we just talked about the entire second team offensive line. 837 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: Is there anybody behind that that you say, well, he's 838 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: a he's a practice squad. I was wrong about Jake Campos, 839 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: the kid from Iowa number sixty three. I hated him 840 00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: and No, camp Yes, his feet, his feet are better 841 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: than they were at Iowa State. He looked like a 842 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 1: disastered at Iowa. Stay he's I always keep saying not 843 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: strong enough yet. But you know what, he might be 844 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: one of these guys that I saw every morning in 845 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: the Star eating breakfast. I didn't know who the hell 846 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: he was, you know, physical, what he looked like, and 847 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: he had to stay the whole time and work and 848 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: all that. His footwork is much better. They play him 849 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: on the N six. That's I was gonna say, the 850 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: only guy of that group. I've noticed that Jap three. Yeah, 851 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 1: I never put a name with Yeah, Jay Campos, he 852 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: must have done something. But the time he walked off 853 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: the campus at aims to the time he walked on 854 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: to Star. Yeah, because he's made me look like a fool. 855 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 1: Because if you go back and read my scouting reporter 856 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: whim Iowa stayed, it was not glowing at all. It 857 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: was very questionable. Now did you say just say this? 858 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: Because I was trying to find sixty three. He's been 859 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: out on the field at the Star, working by himself. 860 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 1: That's the deal. He's by himself an offensive line, he's 861 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 1: got his footwork has become better. It's not a strong guy. 862 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: He'll get an opportun you'll see him. Hopefully he didn't 863 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: get called for holding or get somebody hurt. But but 864 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: so far, so good. I've been. I have to submit 865 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: I've been. I was wrong about my scouting report about him. 866 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 1: If you go back and read it, didn't see a 867 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: quick foot. The guy NIC's got better, and you know what, 868 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: that's what Gerard has been working with him, and not 869 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: here because gird is kind of with the defense. But 870 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: back at the Star, I've seen him out there doing 871 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 1: the little ladder drill that's on the on the field, right. 872 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: Can't hurt. We're going with a five time Pro Bowls. Yeah. 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Tim in Boston, You're up next. 921 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: What's up? Hey, guys? Lets taking my college appreciate Hey, 922 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 1: quick question, Jordan Lewis. Haven't heard his name a lot 923 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: so far? Yeah, kidding, number forty the award, hearing quite 924 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: a bit of him. Sure, what are you guys seeing 925 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: as far as uh, you know, obviously forty. He fits 926 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: that prototypical guy that I knew secondary coach likes a 927 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 1: lot um. You see him stepping up and possibly, you know, 928 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: competing for that job. And I think the thing that 929 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: makes me nervous is I've heard nothing on Jordan Lewis. Brian, Okay, 930 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 1: thanks for the call, Tim, Brian. That was our male 931 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: back question today. Brian took offense to that question a 932 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 1: little bit. He's talk he's written about him some, we've 933 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about Cheeto and admiring he just 934 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: hasn't made any like spectacular players or anything. But he's 935 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: been solid. When we talk about the second that This 936 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: is what bothered me out the question Tim and Boss. 937 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: I loved him. I loved him a matter of fact, 938 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 1: I loved to have Tim's voice to do radio with. 939 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 1: I would call called the game with Tim's voice. I'd 940 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: be good shape, definitely. But the thing, I just kind 941 00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: of this thing, I feel like we talk about the 942 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 1: secondary guys. I feel like I talk about you know, 943 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: when we write about it, and people I haven't heard 944 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: much of, and yeah we've heard, you know, when when 945 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,879 Speaker 1: guys make plays, you talk about him, Like Mickey said, 946 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: but there's times when we were just mentioning about you know, 947 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: we just mentioned about him running a vertical route with 948 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: Tavon Austin. You know, it's kind of how you work. 949 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 1: But I think I think it's easy for him to 950 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: slip through a little bit because Byron's been a star 951 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 1: in camp Geto looks great and everybody's watching up. Yeah, 952 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: he's been solid his coverage. I don't think I give 953 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: guys enough credit for coverage. That's what I'm with you 954 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: on this, Mickey, because I but I feel like when 955 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: they do do something well, that's that's the easiest thing 956 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 1: for me to write about. When when Michael Gallop is 957 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,320 Speaker 1: going against Jordan Lewis in a compete period and a 958 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: that's the easiest thing in the world to write about. 959 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: You could say technique was really good covered or Michael 960 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: Gallop ran this route kind of spun Jordan Lewis. That's 961 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: that's how you mentioned these guys. But man, if if 962 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 1: you said, Okay, hey, Brian, haven't heard a lot about 963 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: Katie Cannon. I'm with you. You got me, you got me, 964 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 1: the great words of Rowan Cabner. You got me, you know, 965 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: you know. And sometimes that's that's when you talk about 966 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 1: these guys. When you don't hear about a guy, sometimes 967 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 1: that's good because he hadn't done anything like really bad, 968 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,240 Speaker 1: Like I don't Vanderesh, Yeah, Vanderes. People are like, how's 969 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: Vanderesh playing? And I'm like, he talk about him. He 970 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: hasn't been terrible. Is there things he needs to work on? Absolutely? 971 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: But does he make does he make plays? Does he 972 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: do what he's supposed to do responsibility wise? Yeah? Absolutely, 973 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: My star of the day. The other day there was 974 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: Chris Rochard was amazing, right, I love that. Did you 975 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: hear about that him yelling at the referee? Yes, yes, 976 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 1: I was watching him. I was standing right there. Richard 977 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: looked like guy, the guy walked up. It must be 978 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,399 Speaker 1: a new official he walked up the line. It wasn't 979 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: the NFL guy. Yeah, So it was the training guy 980 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: that was on the side. Because that guy that talked 981 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 1: in there all the no, no, not that, no, no, 982 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: not the guy that talked other guy. Oh yeah, a 983 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: training guy had his hands full because he was with him. 984 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,919 Speaker 1: This who this group was like, there was shaking going 985 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: on out there. I'm thinking, okay, that that game will 986 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: be wherever the bottom two teams are, this crew will 987 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: be out there. I thought you picked Rashard just because 988 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 1: how he spoke after practice that day. No, no, no, no, 989 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: And he was no, he's oh, he's great to talk to. 990 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: He did it really if you go back watching with 991 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: with Ambar to piscope Ede. But he he went up 992 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 1: to the official. I mean, the official was walking away 993 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: from him and he's talking. He goes, I can't get 994 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: a call. I can't get that call. I can't get 995 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 1: a push off call. And the guy kept walking but 996 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 1: said something like under his breath, and Rashard just started. 997 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he's like, you will look at me like 998 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,399 Speaker 1: a man, like I am looking at you right now. 999 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 1: I mean, but he I mean, he was dropping some 1000 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't print what he the curse words were? Was it? 1001 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 1: Was it the Beasley catch? Oh yeah, it was one 1002 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 1: of the first ones out of the block. Was a 1003 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: little bit, yeah, a little bit of pushing going on there. 1004 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: Great and Richard was like, I can't get that call. 1005 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: You're gonna call stuff on me, and he was going 1006 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 1: on and this official kept walking and when he said, 1007 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 1: you will look at me like a man like with 1008 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 1: you and the eyes like I'm looking at you, I 1009 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: guess the super well, you know, and he he was 1010 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 1: like the shirt was wrenched and great when you know 1011 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get a penalty, right, say all the 1012 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 1: stuff you want to say. He kicked you out. Another 1013 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 1: Richard story. I was watching goal line, you know, we 1014 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 1: had the live goal line the other day, and he's 1015 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,959 Speaker 1: back there with Gary Brown and Gary Brown former player. 1016 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: So like the first one, you know, both scarboard just 1017 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,240 Speaker 1: blasted in there for the touchdown and so like Brown 1018 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: turns to Rochard and like says something, and Rochard goes 1019 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 1: walking into this. And so the next time they get 1020 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 1: to stop Rochard, I mean Rochardon and turns to Brown, 1021 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 1: it starts going at him, and Brown's like throwing his 1022 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: hands up, you know, and Andrew Gerard's in there, and 1023 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean they're all just fighting among each other on 1024 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 1: these on these plays. Speaking of ambar aroscope, yeah, she 1025 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 1: just discovered that he can speak some spans. Mom is 1026 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 1: Hispanic yeah, yeah, and she's like seriously, yeah, and he goes, yeah, 1027 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can carry conversation on with you, 1028 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 1: but I can, I can do some. And she goes, oh, 1029 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 1: you're dead where we're gonna be doing this every time, 1030 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: you guys are gonna be But she she had some 1031 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 1: really good question. He had some good insight about the 1032 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,359 Speaker 1: secondary and what why they did some of the things 1033 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 1: they did. So if you had a chance to check 1034 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 1: that out. So look at those first two guys out 1035 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 1: for the walkthrough, Byron Jones and Jeff there you go. 1036 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,359 Speaker 1: One more thing on Jordan Lewis. They were partners together 1037 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: and the back back back they were. Yeah. Now now 1038 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 1: Byron's making that transition. George Lewis and Lance Lenora. Those 1039 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: battles they've had all throughout camp, barking at each other. 1040 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: It's been good. It's been good competition. Um, no offense 1041 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: to him. We no, no, And sometimes maybe I need 1042 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 1: to do a better job. We throw so much information. 1043 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes guys just kind of slipped through a little bit, 1044 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,959 Speaker 1: you know, Um, but you've hit on it for sure, Brian. 1045 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about the quarterbacks a little bit. Um. 1046 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 1: We touched him a little bit yesterday. They both spoke yesterday. 1047 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 1: Not Dak, not to us, he spoke to NFL Network. 1048 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: But the backups who figure to get most of the 1049 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: work tomorrow, Cooper Rush, Mike White, What do you hope 1050 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 1: to see from then tomorrow? Because look, they're not This 1051 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 1: isn't gonna be a true game plan situation for either 1052 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: team for more bout evaluation. So how yeah, just move 1053 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: the offense, get thee move the offense, get in the huddle, 1054 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,800 Speaker 1: get the call. Act like you're in charge in the huddle, 1055 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 1: so guys know who the quarterback is, get to the 1056 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, get the snap, and just run plays. 1057 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: You know, you'd like to move the ball at her 1058 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 1: first down, But just kind of how they execute, how 1059 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 1: they carry themselves, more than anything else, this will go 1060 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 1: a long way. You know. We remember remember the impression 1061 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 1: that we had of Dak Prescott after that Rams game 1062 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,359 Speaker 1: three years ago. It was like, my god, this guy, 1063 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the ball. It's like back shoulder to Deaz, 1064 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,879 Speaker 1: you know, Williams wittinga ball is going down the field, 1065 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: going who is playing a quarterback for us? Yeah? Yeah, 1066 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 1: I remember saying open air, press box. That guy I'm going, 1067 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 1: whoa who is that? You know? I mean, I say 1068 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,320 Speaker 1: next to Taylor, and Taylor's goes, she goes, dak is 1069 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 1: lighting this thing up. And I'm like, my gosh, you're right, 1070 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 1: and you know, but that's and then the next week 1071 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 1: against the Rams, all right, see me against the Dolphins. Yeah, 1072 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,840 Speaker 1: that that same thing down the field and you're going, okay, okay, 1073 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 1: this is we're starting to see some But to Mickey's point, 1074 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,399 Speaker 1: he's absolutely right. Getting the huddle, make a confident call. 1075 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 1: They're not probably gonna give you something exotic to look at, 1076 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, pick out who you'd like to kind of 1077 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: get the ball too. In the situation. Know the down 1078 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,839 Speaker 1: and distance, move the team. That's all you can ask. 1079 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 1: You're not I mean, I don't want you to be 1080 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 1: a hero tomorrow night. I just want you to be consistent, 1081 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: protect the football, move the team. That's all I ask. 1082 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: You don't have to call an audible on the goal 1083 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:59,800 Speaker 1: line instead of calling time out. You go, Romo. That 1084 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:03,879 Speaker 1: was absolute brilliance and stupidity all in the same play. 1085 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 1: It was what was the situation? Again? After I wasn't 1086 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: there for that game? Was Sean Ryan. Sean Ryan, he 1087 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 1: throws a fourth down path he gets to pass down 1088 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,240 Speaker 1: in there, remember tight end sean By, he gets knocked 1089 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,399 Speaker 1: unconscious basically, and he can't even get in his there 1090 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: picking him up, putting him in his stance because they 1091 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 1: can't they can't waste time. And like he like gets 1092 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 1: in his stance and like he falls on the ground 1093 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 1: like he's hurt, and Romo you know, knocks it in. 1094 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, they were. They're trying to call time out, 1095 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: I believe, yeah, and Romo just and he just said, 1096 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 1: now we're gonna stab at it. And he runs a 1097 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,800 Speaker 1: quarterback snating scores and they win the game, right, and 1098 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 1: Bill is just hot. Yeah, in subordination yea, not listening 1099 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,920 Speaker 1: to the coach. It was brilliant and stupidity all the same. 1100 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,319 Speaker 1: You know. It's one of those things, no, no, no, no, great, Yeah, 1101 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 1: but that was Romo like a basket, that was a 1102 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 1: Romo career. Yeah, that's good. You know we knew all a. Yeah, 1103 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 1: I smid short court shot that what that happened with 1104 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: the with Danny It didn't turn out well it was 1105 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 1: no no, no, no no no yeah, yeah, all right 1106 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: before we got a couple of minutes before we get 1107 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: out of here. You wanted to touch on Randy Gregory, right, yeah, yeah, 1108 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:15,959 Speaker 1: just a little bit. I mean he's doing a little 1109 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 1: bit more. He's got the pads on now, working on 1110 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 1: the chords, trying to get in shape, had the helmet on. 1111 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 1: So I think he's taken that was the next step. 1112 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 1: And then after that maybe Saturday, Oh, we see him 1113 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,240 Speaker 1: out here please doing a little at least individual drills 1114 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 1: something maybe maybe Yeah, Brian's ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. 1115 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 1: I'm ready to see I'm ready to see Randy Gregory play. 1116 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,239 Speaker 1: You know what, everybody I I you know what, I'm 1117 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 1: one of the guys I admitted I was not I 1118 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 1: didn't think Randy Gregor would ever play again. I'm one 1119 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 1: of those guys. I'm like this, this is he's not 1120 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 1: gonna play, you know. But you look at him and 1121 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 1: you see what he where, he's what he's gone through, 1122 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: where he's got to at this point. He physically looks 1123 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 1: really good, you know, running that low shoulder and all 1124 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 1: that stuff he does. I want to see him practice. 1125 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 1: I want to see him going against these tackles, you know, 1126 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: kind of making that you know, maybe get a couple 1127 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 1: of reps against Tyrant Smith there. You know, kind of 1128 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,799 Speaker 1: see how that works for him. You know, we had 1129 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 1: an open chair there. We should have got the six 1130 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,880 Speaker 1: time pro bowler. He's got his own show. Well, the 1131 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,800 Speaker 1: sixth time pro bowler is up next. Yeah, hanging with 1132 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 1: the boys next. No, no, no, he's with Oh I 1133 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:26,240 Speaker 1: see a little cross date. Newton will join the break next. 1134 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 1: Check that out. We could have got two hours out 1135 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,800 Speaker 1: of him on Dallas Cowboys Radio. This has been Talking Cowboys. 1136 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Enjoy the game tomorrow night, and 1137 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 1: we will be back on Friday Deep Blue to wrap 1138 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 1: it all up. Check out Deep Blue today too. 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