Speaker 1: Hello everyone, I'm Tory Deal and I'm a Nissa Ferreira
Speaker 1: and this is MTV's official Challenge podcast. Hey We're back,
Speaker 1: We're bad Yay.
Speaker 2: We are so excited to kick off All Starscore with
Speaker 2: you guys.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be amazing. We have been waiting so long.
Speaker 1: I know all of you out there have been waiting
Speaker 1: so long, and here it is, this highly anticipated season
Speaker 1: of All Stars Tour. What are you excited about?
Speaker 2: I'm excited that we don't have to wait any longer, Like,
Speaker 2: can we be real? This has been teased for over
Speaker 2: a year now, Like I have had enough of waiting
Speaker 2: for this. The lineup of this cast is absolutely insane.
Speaker 2: Anybody who's a true fan is gonna look at this
Speaker 2: and be like, oh my gosh, the relationships that happened
Speaker 2: previously to bring them on here.
Speaker 1: We got the Carra, we have a Laurel like we
Speaker 1: have Nicole, We've got Leroy, We've got Rachel hasn't been
Speaker 1: back in EON's Rachel, Tina and Veronica are back together
Speaker 1: like it's mine blowing and I love it and I
Speaker 1: totally totally think it's worth the wait. But I wish
Speaker 1: we could have eighteen thousand seasons of it.
Speaker 2: Let's get into this first episode because there's so much
Speaker 2: to talk about.
Speaker 1: There's so much to cover.
Speaker 2: We got introduced to so many people that we haven't
Speaker 2: seen in a really long time. The challenge was absolutely insane, Like,
Speaker 2: I think they really stepped it up to make sure
Speaker 2: that these all Stars are being pushed to their limit,
Speaker 2: and we learned how this game is going to go
Speaker 2: moving forward in terms of the structure of how it's
Speaker 2: going to play out. So I think there's a lot
Speaker 2: to discuss here, and I want to know what you
Speaker 2: think first about the performance and the breakdown of that
Speaker 2: first challenge.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, this first challenge reached for the stars one
Speaker 1: I love stars. I got a tattooed on my body.
Speaker 1: The fact that you've got to get a star to
Speaker 1: run the final, and the fact that this first challenge
Speaker 1: has stars that get to fit on these little pegs
Speaker 1: and they're in different orientations, which makes it hard because
Speaker 1: when they it's it's hot as shit. Clearly these people
Speaker 1: look like they're having a hard time even if you're fit.
Speaker 1: This seemed like a pretty difficult challenge except for Kara,
Speaker 1: who totally dominated it. Yeah, and was done in what
Speaker 1: seemed like five minutes. It definitely was like the world's
Speaker 1: longest shuttle run, though like it did not seem it
Speaker 1: did not seem easy. So for viewers and other challengers
Speaker 1: who say that All Stars is, you know, easy and whatever,
Speaker 1: it's not. I'm exhausted watching these people run back and forth.
Speaker 1: So I mean, my kudos to everybody who participated because
Speaker 1: it did not seem easy. Wasn't surprised by Kara Avery
Speaker 1: or Rachel. I mean, Rachel's always been incredible at the challenges.
Speaker 1: I came to parties, she came to play. She still
Speaker 1: seems to have that mindset. So I am super happy.
Speaker 1: And then you have Brad, Adam and Brandon winning for
Speaker 1: the guys. I'm so happy about Brandon. He has definitely
Speaker 1: gotten the shitty end of the stick on previous challenge.
Speaker 1: I am a friend and I have done challenges with
Speaker 1: him before, and he's all around, like awesome guy. It's
Speaker 1: just so great to see, you know, it's nostalgic for me.
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. I'm totally jealous of it, but like
Speaker 1: to see the people I played with over the last
Speaker 1: two decades come back and still kick ass.
Speaker 2: I also think like this challenge was obviously really incredibly hard,
Speaker 2: and I was surprised to see who came at the bottom. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to throw any shade on our boy, Leroy,
Speaker 2: and I'm really.
Speaker 1: Excited to get into it with him in this episode.
Speaker 2: But like, LeRoy's like a beast, So it's like I
Speaker 2: want to know what went wrong?
Speaker 1: But chance it like look at the pieces and look
Speaker 1: how like right, Ryan was Dick spacing? Yeah, you knew
Speaker 1: that they were in different Once you found out that
Speaker 1: they were in different orientations, I think that you would
Speaker 1: weild my advice you go back to the box, you
Speaker 1: look for said orientations. I would spend more time at
Speaker 1: the box trying to find the right star so I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have to run back and forth as much. But
Speaker 1: easier said than done. I wasn't there. You know how
Speaker 1: stressful it is when you are. But yeah, Lee Roy
Speaker 1: was like totally and even Derek I think Derek has
Speaker 1: proved himself. Tyree's you know, he's a trainer, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you never know what can happen in these challenges.
Speaker 2: Adam really surprised me too, because Adam isn't somebody that
Speaker 2: I know anything about.
Speaker 1: I don't know his history. Oh, he's always been a beast.
Speaker 2: And like, if I would have looked at the guys lineup,
Speaker 2: I would have just put, like, you know, Tony above
Speaker 2: Adam just based on what I've seen Tony do.
Speaker 1: Adam absolutely knocked it out of the water. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: really did. He knocked it out of the water. He
Speaker 1: knocked it out of the water. He knocked it straight.
Speaker 1: I can't. This is why I love you so much.
Speaker 1: Your analogy is the best. They're the worst. That's what
Speaker 1: makes you, you know what. I like that you know
Speaker 1: the bottom four you got to pick from there, and
Speaker 1: then the top I thought the top six were gonna
Speaker 1: be safe same, but but they're not. No, it's just
Speaker 1: a two winners. And then you have this middle group.
Speaker 1: So it's almost like you wanted a win to get
Speaker 1: a star, but you also like we're cool in the
Speaker 1: middle because you have power, you know. So it's interesting
Speaker 1: like do you want to win or do you want
Speaker 1: to wait till later.
Speaker 2: This blend of how they're doing it is amazing because
Speaker 2: also you're penalized if you don't perform well, which I
Speaker 2: think a lot of the challenge fandom really does like,
Speaker 2: because then you can't just be targeting the same person
Speaker 2: over and over again. Now it's solely based on performance,
Speaker 2: but there's a pool that you get to choose from,
Speaker 2: and now it makes the bottom political, which, like you
Speaker 2: were saying, like it brings it to that question do
Speaker 2: we want to win to get my star or do
Speaker 2: I need to have the power this week to make
Speaker 2: sure that somebody who might be in the bottom is
Speaker 2: going to be safe?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Because that's the only challenge where you can win a
Speaker 1: star as we know so far. So it's there's gonna
Speaker 1: I mean later in the season, there's gonna be new incentive.
Speaker 1: Oh besides safety or you know whatever else. Do you
Speaker 1: think that they're not going to compete for stars every
Speaker 1: single week? No, they're not. All the six stars were
Speaker 1: already given out. I thought that it would reshuffle everything.
Speaker 4: That's what I thought too, But that's why I was confused,
Speaker 4: and then I had I had the biggest brain fart
Speaker 4: until I was like, oh so if Kara, so listen,
Speaker 4: if I'm correct, Kara, and all six of the people
Speaker 4: that were those are all the stars that are given
Speaker 4: out because I think those are the amount of people
Speaker 4: that are going to be in the final this, So
Speaker 4: in order to get stars, you have to steal them.
Speaker 1: Okay. I think that's why car was like, you need
Speaker 1: to you need to steal mine. I would have to
Speaker 1: be dead to like leg go my star.
Speaker 2: This is such an important revelation because I think a
Speaker 2: lot of the viewers are also gonna have to go
Speaker 2: babystep through this because it's a genius.
Speaker 1: I think I'm correct. I'm pretty sure you are. Because
Speaker 1: it's the only thing that would make sense because if
Speaker 1: you keep winning stars, people would start to it. It
Speaker 1: puts like giveback and like the skull moment and like
Speaker 1: whatever else, right, like you have to go now, you
Speaker 1: have to go. Like the first challenge sets the tone.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen later, but the stars
Speaker 1: are given out. He didn't say they're gonna be extra stars.
Speaker 1: He didn't say you get a star for trying, right,
Speaker 1: he said, now you're gonna have to steal stars. It's
Speaker 1: literally six spots at the table. That's what it is. Like,
Speaker 1: it's they're stealing now you know at least yeah, now
Speaker 1: you know it's three and you know what it's like
Speaker 1: to be in like before the final and you're like,
Speaker 1: this is it TJ's gonna tell us we're going to
Speaker 1: the final. There's like ten of us, I know, and
Speaker 1: we're like, I know this number isn't right, but you
Speaker 1: never know. Yeah, now there's double elimination and there's something
Speaker 1: you know, so it's it's interesting, but this is the
Speaker 1: way they used to play it. You know, there was one, two,
Speaker 1: and three, and I would love to see how how
Speaker 1: this goes. I love that they bring like the old school,
Speaker 1: you know format of like knowing that they're going to
Speaker 1: be six people in the final.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as we know so far, it was like this
Speaker 2: amazing blend of like great competition, great strategy, but then
Speaker 2: also these really hilarious funnymons like you have TJ missing
Speaker 2: the apple, you have tea drink, you have the Tony
Speaker 2: thing where he's like goes, I'm sorry, goes.
Speaker 1: For Veronica's flag. I can't. I mean, it was the
Speaker 1: build up to I'm back baby in it Tony time.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's Veronica time because that's the name you pull, dude,
Speaker 1: not him of any dough for it. And he wasn't
Speaker 1: even gonna be top three. He was like the sixth person.
Speaker 1: It was the seventh, seventh, whatever, like eighth, he.
Speaker 2: Wasn't or even better, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Listen, it was hilarious and in proper Tony fashion. Oh god,
Speaker 1: it was so so good. All right, So the middle
Speaker 1: group not nominates Tyree and Steve, and we have Tyree
Speaker 1: going back in and it's sad because it seems like
Speaker 1: it's always his fate to go in the first one
Speaker 1: and they have to play catch a falling star. What
Speaker 1: do you think about this elimination?
Speaker 2: I think it's it's nice because there was that aspect
Speaker 2: of it could have gotten physical, true, but also at
Speaker 2: the same time, like it was, it was really good
Speaker 2: to watch as a viewer because the pendulum swung. At
Speaker 2: one point in time, Tyree was absolutely crushing it and
Speaker 2: then Steve. You I thought for sure he was gonna lose,
Speaker 2: and I was like, damn, you know that sucks, But
Speaker 2: he made a great strategy mid game.
Speaker 1: If I if it were me, I would have put
Speaker 1: all of them in my sports bra. Yeah, you would
Speaker 1: have gone nuts. Literally. I would have been like a
Speaker 1: chipmunk who runs the world Squirrels, who runs the world squirrels?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 1: It cats. So if I were in front of you,
Speaker 1: I'd be on the floor like Pete le.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I thought it was great because it was anyone's game.
Speaker 1: But god like Steve hiding it from himself, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that killed me. That was about to be the biggest mind.
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't know where it was because after all,
Speaker 1: the sand was all over him. I couldn't find the
Speaker 1: fallen fallen stars ones, I couldn't see anything. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: sandy balls. I was very confused.
Speaker 2: I'm like, how did Tyree not notice that Steve was
Speaker 2: hiding though? But I guess like there was just so
Speaker 2: many to go through that his mind was just so
Speaker 2: focused on what was right in front of his face.
Speaker 1: How many did he hide? Like six? Because he was
Speaker 1: just swimming there like a sea otter for a little bit,
Speaker 1: just like lounging. Yeah, and he was like, I'm just
Speaker 1: going to do this. But we've seen it before where
Speaker 1: people have done stuff like that Cete and uh drug
Speaker 1: stuff along the bottom of the water whatever, because you know,
Speaker 1: they don't tell you certain things you can't do. So
Speaker 1: you know, that's smart on Steve for being able to
Speaker 1: be quick on his feet. Yes, yes, I and get
Speaker 1: that done. But I still feel bad for Tyree because
Speaker 1: he was just so close. Yeah, well, like you know,
Speaker 1: with this game, we've seen it.
Speaker 2: Steve went out pretty crappily the last All Stars, and
Speaker 2: he got his ability to come back and get a
Speaker 2: come back. I think as long as there's more All
Speaker 2: Stars that we love a redemption story, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't like when he steals my boo
Speaker 1: star brand. It's been my boo for years. Okay, my babes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: who would you have stolen your star from? Anissa? I
Speaker 1: would have gotten a star in the first Child. Oh
Speaker 1: what's a good answer? You know me in first Challenges? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't have a bad time, and it's a star
Speaker 1: like puzzly kind of thing. Yeah, you would have crushed it.
Speaker 1: I would have picked up all the boxes on my
Speaker 1: fucking back and I would have put them next to
Speaker 1: each other because I would not have wanted to do
Speaker 1: a shuttle run in the hot sun of Africa. Dude.
Speaker 2: And actually, funny story, we actually competed there for Global
Speaker 2: Champions in that exact same house.
Speaker 1: I was like, I know that water slide, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you did. I was supposed to be on that one. Yeah, same,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that house is bomb, so bomb I'm excited
Speaker 2: to see like what comes up from you know, all
Speaker 2: of all of this season in that amazing house. And
Speaker 2: South Africa is absolutely beautiful, Like it's just such place.
Speaker 2: It's incredible, and I'm just this season's gonna be insane
Speaker 2: and I'm really excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're gonna do something a little different for
Speaker 1: this season.
Speaker 2: We're gonna give out our personal all star of the
Speaker 2: episode and no Star of the episode also, and he said,
Speaker 2: who are you gonna give your all star two for
Speaker 2: this episode?
Speaker 1: You know, car Maria definitely killed this first challenge and
Speaker 1: you know, got to call spade a spade. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: should be to everybody. Yep, you know, and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna you can't. You can't take it from her. Nope,
Speaker 1: what about you?
Speaker 2: I would say I have two So because you said Kara,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say the other one because kra was one
Speaker 2: of mine. And the other one is Steve because he's
Speaker 2: a little squirrely boy and who rules the world squirrel?
Speaker 2: Yeah so uh and I'm a huge animal activist, so
Speaker 2: I love Steve. And that was a great that's a
Speaker 2: great strategy.
Speaker 1: Who would you give your no star too? Somebody who
Speaker 1: had that. I'm gonna give me no started Tony. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gotta go to Tony. It's like party. There was
Speaker 1: no chance you were winning that because he already lost.
Speaker 1: And then and then you then you pulled Veronica's name.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 1: That was It was the look on TJ's face. Whether
Speaker 1: it was edited or not, but it was pure, like Tony.
Speaker 2: Like you like you weren't just looking at the color
Speaker 2: of your boxes like all the time.
Speaker 1: And you dove and he dove. I mean, you would
Speaker 1: have thought like it was the end. All of the
Speaker 1: money was right there. Yeah, you can't make this up.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: Tony's incredible. I'm so happy to have him back on
Speaker 1: our screen.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy to have Leroy back on our screen too,
Speaker 2: And I'm so excited to have him on the podcast.
Speaker 1: I know, I cannot wait to see him and hear
Speaker 1: from him. He is always such a joy, so funny,
Speaker 1: and I just feel I'm so happy to be back
Speaker 1: on the podcast with my bestie. But also I'm so
Speaker 1: happy to see All Stars four because this is what
Speaker 1: the world needs. I agree, the world needed this.
Speaker 2: All right, guys, we're going to take a quick break,
Speaker 2: but we're going to be right back with Leroy after this.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get back to the show. I would love
Speaker 1: to introduce this wonderful human being to the podcast. He
Speaker 1: said he retired, but clearly not because we see him
Speaker 1: on this season of All Stars. For he was on
Speaker 1: Real World Las Vegas and he's done thirteen seasons of
Speaker 1: the challenge. Please welcome Leroy Garrett.
Speaker 3: That was great. I actually thank you. I retired. I
Speaker 3: retired from the challenge. It's not All Stars too totally different.
Speaker 1: But isn't All Stars considered a challenge? I mean, clearly
Speaker 1: from the first episode, it's amazing when you pulled up,
Speaker 1: did it feel different?
Speaker 2: And I feel like a different challenge where you're like, wait,
Speaker 2: this feels like the Challenge again.
Speaker 5: It was super nostalgic seeing like all the people from
Speaker 5: back in to day, people who have been filmed with
Speaker 5: in a while. So, I mean, it definitely still felt like,
Speaker 5: you know, a regular challenge, but you know, being there,
Speaker 5: it definitely was like a like when I first started,
Speaker 5: like my first season one, I'm like, damn, this is
Speaker 5: this is totally different to walk into a challenge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that house though looks sick.
Speaker 3: The house was nice.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: They let us The way they let us into the
Speaker 5: house was they went by seniority. So who's ever done
Speaker 5: it the longest? I think Keifla and Flora, they all
Speaker 5: were able to go in first and pick their own rooms,
Speaker 5: and then they had what.
Speaker 1: I want, that's what I will. I've been pushing for
Speaker 1: that for like the last decade because.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be one of the first ones.
Speaker 1: Thank you were riding in on my dinosaur. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: How was it to watch the episode back? Though? Like
Speaker 1: I feel like it's crazyly right.
Speaker 2: I remember sitting on that stage with you in Double
Speaker 2: Agents and You're like, I'm gonna retire, and CT was like.
Speaker 1: You're gonna come back, you know you always do.
Speaker 2: Everyone comes back, And then now you you made your
Speaker 2: comeback in a way like yeah, maybe it's not the actual.
Speaker 1: Challenge, but it kind of fuck it is.
Speaker 2: So what was it like being back in the house
Speaker 2: and then like, obviously you get to be there with
Speaker 2: Cam again, and what made you want to come back
Speaker 2: out of retirement?
Speaker 5: I mean, well, we all know while into retirement from
Speaker 5: I think everybody does you know?
Speaker 3: I made that very clear.
Speaker 5: So once the changes were made over with the network,
Speaker 5: gave me made me feel a lot better than a
Speaker 5: policy was put in place that what happened to me
Speaker 5: in the past wouldn't happen to anyone else. So I
Speaker 5: was like, that's all I really wanted, you know, was
Speaker 5: just for the network to take some accountability and to
Speaker 5: be able to move forward. So it was I never
Speaker 5: when I actually ended up leaving the show. It wasn't
Speaker 5: because I hated the show where I was tired of
Speaker 5: doing the show. I loved it right, but I was
Speaker 5: just mentally what I was going through, and especially at
Speaker 5: that time with the whole George Floyd thing and everything
Speaker 5: I had been through, I.
Speaker 3: Was like, man, I'm tired of this, Like this is
Speaker 3: this is, isn't it.
Speaker 5: So once, like I said, the changes were made over
Speaker 5: at the network, I felt comfortable with coming back. And
Speaker 5: then it was perfect timing too, so we had Cam
Speaker 5: and I just had a baby, so it was like, Yo,
Speaker 5: let's do this. My sister decided that she will watch
Speaker 5: him while we were gonna be gone. But yeah, I was.
Speaker 5: I was super excited to be back. I was so
Speaker 5: happy to be back.
Speaker 1: I'm happy that that you could feel whole going back
Speaker 1: on the show, because I know it can take a
Speaker 1: toll on you just as is just as a person
Speaker 1: on the show. But like I think, with the things
Speaker 1: that you've gone through we've gone through, it's nice to
Speaker 1: come back and feel like you were heard and seen
Speaker 1: and like you can do it and it's like okay
Speaker 1: and it's safe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was huge.
Speaker 5: Well, before we did the season, I don't know if
Speaker 5: I'll know it, but they had well, now you have
Speaker 5: to you have to do like a.
Speaker 1: Uh bias training.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so so that we've never had to do
Speaker 3: nothing like that before.
Speaker 1: Lero, you and I were supposed to teach it together,
Speaker 1: but I was the call with the other guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've never done anything like that before. So that's
Speaker 5: so that made me feel really good. Before the season,
Speaker 5: they let me actually talk to the cast and explain
Speaker 5: what wasn't going to be tolerated, talked about everything that
Speaker 5: happened to me, So it was it was really dope.
Speaker 3: They really made me feel comfortable, and I think that's
Speaker 3: for everybody, not just for me.
Speaker 5: There's shit just happened that everybody still like moving forward,
Speaker 5: I feel like it's a clean slate. But yeah, being
Speaker 5: back was it was a blessing and it was it
Speaker 5: was just fun. It was really some people I didn't
Speaker 5: know we were going to be there, had no idea Car
Speaker 5: was going to be there. So just seeing all these
Speaker 5: people who haven't been on there just as long as
Speaker 5: I have was really good too.
Speaker 2: So walking into the house and then seeing all these
Speaker 2: people that you didn't expect to see, you know, obviously
Speaker 2: people you've known for a really long time, and then
Speaker 2: also car and Maria, like, what were some standout people
Speaker 2: that you were like, Holy crap, I cannot believe they're
Speaker 2: back right now.
Speaker 5: Definitely couldn't believe Cars back. What's really happy to see her? Tyree, Brandon,
Speaker 5: uh Tony, so many, so many people, Rachel, I think
Speaker 5: that I do a season when Rachel did Balance.
Speaker 1: Yeah you did? You did do a season with Rachel?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know the excess too.
Speaker 5: So it was it was really good to see people
Speaker 5: that I've never even met before, and then people that
Speaker 5: I'm familiar with, and then you know, it was like,
Speaker 5: what was crazy? Was I felt like with All Stars four,
Speaker 5: you put actual challengers on All Stars Normally it's like
Speaker 5: people back in the day, so that made it kind
Speaker 5: of feel like a challenge a little bit. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 5: a lot some people that could, you know, All Stars,
Speaker 5: I don't think that they could actually compete on the
Speaker 5: actual challenge because they may be a little bit harder
Speaker 5: or the challenges a lot longer. And then you have
Speaker 5: challengers that can kind of like do back and forth.
Speaker 5: Some people from All Stars are like really old, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You Adams old. Adam's older than us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't mean disrespectfully, but some of the challenges
Speaker 5: in the regular flagship shows, they will always say, it's
Speaker 5: way different than what we were doing on All Stars.
Speaker 1: But the first one looked hard, the first one difficult.
Speaker 1: You can't me that you can't put that on the
Speaker 1: flag ship.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, it's not even just the challenge is
Speaker 5: just a game, period. The game on the actual flagship
Speaker 5: is so much more intensive, yes, than it is, right.
Speaker 5: So I don't think that if somebody from back in
Speaker 5: the day was to come and actually just do a challenge,
Speaker 5: they would be like, hell, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1: They would hate it. I'll never do it again. To
Speaker 1: somebody about that last night, it's very yes, so.
Speaker 5: Not just about how and way more competitive. You gotta
Speaker 5: think like people that are actually doing the challenge, challenge.
Speaker 3: They're training every day.
Speaker 5: Like even myself, I just show up to All Stars
Speaker 5: and it was kind of like whatever. So I think
Speaker 5: it's it's just it's just different. But I'm still competitive,
Speaker 5: but just different. I mean, you have Floria, she was
Speaker 5: fifty one. She hasn't she hasn't done nothing competitive and
Speaker 5: I don't know how long.
Speaker 1: Who looks great. By the way I wrote that in
Speaker 1: my I was when she said her age a challenge.
Speaker 1: I think that MTV has done something to us where
Speaker 1: we're just not aging like regular people. No offense the
Speaker 1: regular people listening to this. I'm just saying, perhaps the
Speaker 1: challenge is like the Fountain of youth, Like there's enough
Speaker 1: stress in botox forever. I mean I only started three years.
Speaker 5: Speaking of Flora, she's she's one of the greatest people
Speaker 5: I've ever met from the show.
Speaker 1: Yes, I love her and you knew her before. Was
Speaker 1: this the first time that you had met.
Speaker 3: No, this is my first time meaning her. Yeah, I've
Speaker 3: never even heard of her.
Speaker 1: What makes you say that she was one of the
Speaker 1: greatest people.
Speaker 5: She's just like like for her, she really wasn't there
Speaker 5: for like the money. She was like it was just
Speaker 5: like super genuine. She was just fun to be around,
Speaker 5: Like she didn't have any type of alterior motives. You know,
Speaker 5: a lot of us Challengers seven myself, we coming there
Speaker 5: and be gaming game and gaming, and She's just like, hey,
Speaker 5: I'm just here to have a good time.
Speaker 3: So it's rare that you see that.
Speaker 1: What about is it? Keiflaif? Yeah? How was he?
Speaker 3: Super cool?
Speaker 5: Super cool O g real chill uh back at home
Speaker 5: in east from Atlanta. He has ah he came from
Speaker 5: the first I think road Real season. Yeah, so while
Speaker 5: I was there, I was basically being taken back down
Speaker 5: memory lane and see how all these puzzle pieces connect.
Speaker 5: You know, I had no idea that Ayana and Veronica
Speaker 5: came from the same season when they did their road
Speaker 5: Rules keep it from the first season.
Speaker 3: Flora was from Miami. Yeah, it was wild. It was
Speaker 3: also wild to see Laurel there with the cold.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was just so much to happen to where you're like,
Speaker 3: holy shit, a.
Speaker 1: Lot of webs because you have like car and Laurel,
Speaker 1: Laurel and Nicole, then you have Tina, Veronica and Rachel.
Speaker 1: You have just all of these old friendships and people
Speaker 1: that definitely have known each other for forever, but haven't
Speaker 1: seen each other in like decades, so like you have
Speaker 1: old ship nostalgic stuff, Like there's just so much going on.
Speaker 1: I just want to know how you even got here,
Speaker 1: Like who convinced? Did you have to convince Cam? Or
Speaker 1: to Cam convince you? Like, let's go get you, let's
Speaker 1: go get this diaper money?
Speaker 5: She had to convince me? They called They called Cam
Speaker 5: and asked her to ask me. Yes, so they didn't
Speaker 5: call me that they asked him to ask me I
Speaker 5: was They knew what to do. I said, hell no,
Speaker 5: I said, baby, you go, I'll stay with the baby.
Speaker 5: I was going to go to the trade and have
Speaker 5: some help with the baby because her leave me with
Speaker 5: the baby by myself.
Speaker 3: It has been tragic. So I'm gonna go to.
Speaker 5: The trade with my sister cam Camp because he was
Speaker 5: still nursing, you know, so it'd been tough for me
Speaker 5: to do it by myself. So she was like, nah, baby,
Speaker 5: I already don't feel comfortable going without you.
Speaker 3: Won't you go?
Speaker 5: And I'm like, hell no, I'm not going without you.
Speaker 5: So my sister was like, look give me the baby,
Speaker 5: y'all both go, And we sat down and thought about it.
Speaker 5: We started looking at, you know, finances and how we
Speaker 5: could benefit that. So we're like oo. All the way
Speaker 5: up until we were about to leave, we were so
Speaker 5: in short because it's just tough to leave your baby behind,
Speaker 5: like he was not even one years old yet. And
Speaker 5: then you start thinking to yourself like what kind of
Speaker 5: parents does this make me? Are we bad parents? Because
Speaker 5: we want to leave.
Speaker 3: It's just so much that we that we were going through.
Speaker 5: And the actual day that we left to go film,
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm gonna be able to do this.
Speaker 5: And so we we fly to de Trade and my
Speaker 5: sister drops us off the airport and we just started bawling.
Speaker 3: We just crying, just like yo, let go.
Speaker 5: So we're now we're at the airport talking to the
Speaker 5: agent cam and I looked like we got into a
Speaker 5: fight because we both sitting there.
Speaker 3: It's not coming out of our nose. We both just
Speaker 3: crying and I'm just I didn't I didn't think it
Speaker 3: was going to be that bad.
Speaker 5: But it hit me like a train and I'm like
Speaker 5: I'm looking at him, he was sleeping. I'm like, damn
Speaker 5: and my baby and I can't do this, and uh so, yeah,
Speaker 5: it was it was.
Speaker 3: It was tough.
Speaker 2: It definitely was tough, even here in her interviews talking
Speaker 2: about how she had a c section and how she's
Speaker 2: going to be, you know, pushing her body to another
Speaker 2: limit post having a baby. I mean, like, I can't
Speaker 2: imagine what you two mentally had to just the obstacles
Speaker 2: you had to kind of cross to get to the show, let.
Speaker 1: Alone what comes up once you're on the show.
Speaker 2: So it was really it's really powerful to see two
Speaker 2: parents step away like that and do it doing it
Speaker 2: for the better of your family, which is what you said, Like,
Speaker 2: it's not like you're leaving because you're you're trying to
Speaker 2: make things more complicated.
Speaker 1: You're actually trying to make your life better. Yeah, it's respectable.
Speaker 3: Shout out.
Speaker 5: Shout out to women though, right because a lot of
Speaker 5: times what I like about All Stars is that a
Speaker 5: lot of times when women have kids.
Speaker 3: It's like their their challenge. Career is over if.
Speaker 5: You can't go back, and it's rady to see mothers
Speaker 5: come back.
Speaker 3: So to be able to see Rachel with three.
Speaker 5: Kids, you know, to have a healthy supporters back at home,
Speaker 5: Kim who just literally had a baby. Kim had to
Speaker 5: pump milk before every single challenge, so it was it
Speaker 5: was crazy. So a lot of times you see the
Speaker 5: dads are always on their cts, on their brads, on
Speaker 5: their dere's on their branding's on there. All the guys
Speaker 5: are always there, but it's very rare that you get
Speaker 5: a chance to see the moms. So I just didn't
Speaker 5: want I was happy that came was there because I
Speaker 5: didn't want her to lose herself in motherhood.
Speaker 3: Like yo, like you can do this too, and she
Speaker 3: did it. M H.
Speaker 1: I love that you guys are so supportive of each other.
Speaker 1: But it's also I think for people to know that,
Speaker 1: like you can have a family and chase dreams, you're
Speaker 1: not a bad parent if you go out, Like look
Speaker 1: at actors and actresses and athletes, like they leave, they
Speaker 1: have to leave, you know what I mean. They travel
Speaker 1: a lot, but they're trying to do this to make
Speaker 1: a better life in the end. It's not like you know,
Speaker 1: you just left Kingston by himself at home, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, you guys are still good parents,
Speaker 1: and I think it's awesome, like you said, to see
Speaker 1: moms on there, right, you know, like they really that
Speaker 1: mom strength is something else like these women are so
Speaker 1: so strong, for real strong. So I love it, and
Speaker 1: I love how supportive you guys are of one another.
Speaker 1: And I'm happy that she said get your ass back
Speaker 1: on because we missed you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was good to be back.
Speaker 2: And when you like pulled up to the first challenge,
Speaker 2: you know, obviously you find out that everybody's competing as individuals.
Speaker 2: When you ranked yourself amongst these other guys, where did
Speaker 2: you put yourself before the competition started?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: When I seen what we had to do, I was like,
Speaker 5: endurance wise, I was like, ooh, I'll be able to
Speaker 5: dominate this easily.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Like my training, I'm always
Speaker 3: in really good shape.
Speaker 5: But when you have to, if you don't get your
Speaker 5: star correct, you got to keep running back and forth.
Speaker 5: So that's rights Like I'm like, damn, but you never
Speaker 5: really kid what I've learned after do in so many seasons.
Speaker 5: You can't judge a book by his cover, So I
Speaker 5: didn't think I was gonna be like the best at it.
Speaker 5: But my main focus is like I need to get
Speaker 5: one of those stars, and everybody who does the challenge
Speaker 5: or all Stars, we're all hungry. So you could sit
Speaker 5: there and be looking at your competition like Dan this person,
Speaker 5: like they out of shape, but they hungry. You feel
Speaker 5: me like Tyree is a bigger guy, but he has
Speaker 5: a kid. Like when you when you're fighting, you know
Speaker 5: everybody has a kid, and I'm fighting for myself and like,
Speaker 5: all right, you get it.
Speaker 3: But when you have.
Speaker 5: A child at home and the mouth that you need
Speaker 5: to be, you really fighting. So I didn't underestimate anybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah that makes sense. So what Corey has been saying
Speaker 1: all these years, now you get it. I'm doing this
Speaker 1: for my dude, because.
Speaker 5: I used to be thinking, like, man, people that got kids,
Speaker 5: like I don't want to hear that. I literally was
Speaker 5: insensitive to the fact that people with children when they
Speaker 5: would be crying and saying they missed their kid, I'm like,
Speaker 5: come on, man, we're here to get this money. Now
Speaker 5: that I'm on the other side of that, every interview,
Speaker 5: I can't believe my little baby like Lee hold it together, Brow,
Speaker 5: hold it together, one and a half man about to be.
Speaker 1: Too oh, sub staking cues.
Speaker 3: Really cute.
Speaker 1: Ye, he's really smart, and you have another one on
Speaker 1: the way.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: So we'll find out. We don't know what we're having
Speaker 5: surprise pray for a girl. If you guys pray, pray
Speaker 5: that we have a healthy baby.
Speaker 1: Only pray with you, Leroy. So I guess, I guess
Speaker 1: I will toss a prayer in. Might toss a prayer
Speaker 1: in the prayer job. Yeah. Yeah, it's just like insane. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, your life is.
Speaker 2: Expanding so much off the show and then like you
Speaker 2: get to come back in and we get a taste
Speaker 2: of it as you come back on, and even like
Speaker 2: talking about how when you walked in there were so
Speaker 2: many people from different generations of the Challenge. It's really
Speaker 2: beautiful to see like you and Cam who come from
Speaker 2: different generations of the Challenge and have a life that
Speaker 2: you've melded together now to create a bigger life. And
Speaker 2: it's just wild to see how the Challenge family operates
Speaker 2: and continues to grow intergenerationally.
Speaker 1: It's just beautiful.
Speaker 5: Yeah, never would I have thought that that I would
Speaker 5: you know, end up marrying somebody having a baby with
Speaker 5: somebody from the Challenge.
Speaker 3: When we're home, it's like we don't even think about that.
Speaker 3: We just live like regular people.
Speaker 5: But yeah, crazy, Oh, before I forget congratulations.
Speaker 3: Story on your win.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 5: I mean, we don't talk. I don't get a sense
Speaker 5: to see you, but yeah, I've seen it. I was like, damn,
Speaker 5: so congratulations on that. And Anissa for the last season
Speaker 5: that you did. You did, I'm like, fuck man with
Speaker 5: them injuries, girl, you know they.
Speaker 1: Can't say it and leave it all out there, you know.
Speaker 1: But I also I hurt myself before the final even started.
Speaker 1: It's okay because I was with people that I respected
Speaker 1: in that final and it was just it was an
Speaker 1: honor to play with them.
Speaker 3: In the year.
Speaker 1: We did great and and I'm awesome now, So yeah,
Speaker 1: great going. Thanks Lee.
Speaker 2: So when it came when it comes to this particular
Speaker 2: challenge walking up to it, like strategizing how you were
Speaker 2: going to do this, Like you mentioned, the stars were
Speaker 2: really difficult to understand. But we did see Ryan. I
Speaker 2: think it was Ryan had that moment where he measured
Speaker 2: it like it was a penis. Did anybodyis let anybody
Speaker 2: else have that idea? Or did you and Cam strategize
Speaker 2: prior to this figuring out what was going to be
Speaker 2: the best way to go about it, or you just
Speaker 2: like let's just figure it out.
Speaker 1: On the fly.
Speaker 5: Thank God for Cam because my strategy going in is
Speaker 5: always I was.
Speaker 3: She was like, listen, instead of like trying to race
Speaker 3: all the way.
Speaker 5: Down there, run by each puzzle thing slowly to kind
Speaker 5: of like look at it first, so then you could
Speaker 5: kind of get an eye of what it is, and
Speaker 5: you know, get your star. And with the measuring with
Speaker 5: the penis thing, I mean, penis coming all different sizes,
Speaker 5: so I don't know what kind of size stream they.
Speaker 1: Say, from like your thumb to your pinky is your
Speaker 1: penis if you were to have one, and he was
Speaker 1: just measuring with these two fingers to try and.
Speaker 3: Find Yeah, okay, how it worked. It worked, It worked
Speaker 3: for him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And then and the first tund was a little
Speaker 5: bit of luck too, because you could grab the first
Speaker 5: star and it could fit like as you've seen.
Speaker 3: I think it was tyree at first. He was just
Speaker 3: getting them right away.
Speaker 5: And so so some luck was definitely involved. And if
Speaker 5: you were able to get like the first couple of them,
Speaker 5: that's less that you got to run, you know, so
Speaker 5: and as you start getting tired, you grabbing for the
Speaker 5: same piece. It was definitely a difficult challenge and it
Speaker 5: made me think to myself, like, damn, should I have
Speaker 5: come back. You start thinking I was thinking about I
Speaker 5: was getting so tired, Right, so I'm tired. I'm watching
Speaker 5: someone who I normally way better shaping them and they're
Speaker 5: just cruising. So I'm like, damnly, are you not in
Speaker 5: good shape?
Speaker 3: And what's going on?
Speaker 5: And it definitely you know, first chuns off the gate.
Speaker 5: You don't want to be last, and that's exactly where
Speaker 5: my ass was headed.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, It's interesting because the pattern of
Speaker 2: the season is now officially going to be if you're
Speaker 2: in the middle, you have power, right.
Speaker 1: We learned that because there are the people who vote.
Speaker 2: So when you started to realize that you were, were
Speaker 2: you in cam next to each other at all? When
Speaker 2: you were when you were competing, could you see each
Speaker 2: other's progress?
Speaker 3: No, listen, I was seeing stars, Lily. I was so
Speaker 3: happy when I watched the episode and they didn't show
Speaker 3: how bad I was struggling, because I was just it's
Speaker 3: just stopping the air up. It's not like I was
Speaker 3: like drinking some off a plate was bruggling.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 5: I felt just like ah man so and then the
Speaker 5: watch cam actually completed and I didn't I was like, damn,
Speaker 5: like I'm out here looking bad. But okay, so what
Speaker 5: I let me go back to the quick. I was
Speaker 5: so upset that the name of the game was you
Speaker 5: have to go into elimination because you know, everybody, we
Speaker 5: all want to just skate to the end, So you
Speaker 5: have to go into elimination and get a start. It
Speaker 5: is the only way you can get a star. And
Speaker 5: I was like, f like, I don't want to go
Speaker 5: into an elimination, so.
Speaker 1: The daily would only be if you to make you safe.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't change you won't get a star.
Speaker 5: You just want to No, no, yeah, you could go
Speaker 5: in and take a star and do all those other stuff.
Speaker 3: Who wants to do that? We'll see if that happens.
Speaker 5: The beauty of it is for that was good for
Speaker 5: Cam andized like if she went in and she felt like, hey,
Speaker 5: I don't know if I can run this finals, she
Speaker 5: could just take a star from someone else and give
Speaker 5: it to me, so I don't have to actually go in.
Speaker 5: I could actually you know, skate.
Speaker 3: How want to?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tory, would you like to start dating?
Speaker 3: Just in case.
Speaker 1: Don't start?
Speaker 3: Help me?
Speaker 1: I want to know after after seeing it, you know,
Speaker 1: because you couldn't see it while you were actually competing
Speaker 1: in the first challenge, did it open your eyes to
Speaker 1: like competitors you thought weren't going to do well and
Speaker 1: did for people that surprised you, or people that you
Speaker 1: now think you should keep an eye on, or I
Speaker 1: was I was.
Speaker 5: I was really happy for Brandon. I was really happy
Speaker 5: that Brandon got a start because I mean, I've done
Speaker 5: plenty of seasons with him. He hasn't done seasons in
Speaker 5: a while. I was happy that he was able to
Speaker 5: show up and people to see like, damn, he's tough.
Speaker 3: We all know cars of right. Tyree was actually doing
Speaker 3: good too. Derek.
Speaker 5: Derek actually didn't do as well in this one, but
Speaker 5: just just seeing people like that who who always get
Speaker 5: sit home first or something like that, it's good to
Speaker 5: see them actually do well. So what Brandon getting that
Speaker 5: star was was great. And to see Rachel get up there,
Speaker 5: mom right, so thick.
Speaker 1: Girl. I was waiting. I'm like, please get in there, girl, please.
Speaker 2: But honestly, like it was impressive watching Kara, like she yeah,
Speaker 2: she beat everybody as much.
Speaker 1: As her and I don't get along.
Speaker 2: She is impressive and you really can't take it from her,
Speaker 2: like she is like.
Speaker 5: That said that to her, even though, like I mean,
Speaker 5: she's she always has a target on her back because
Speaker 5: Carl Marie is good and just being an individual games
Speaker 5: like it could be male or female, who's gonna win it.
Speaker 5: I didn't go into it thinking like, guy's gonna get this.
Speaker 5: I'm like, damn, last the last individual season I did
Speaker 5: was Ben and Cars smoked everybody.
Speaker 3: So yeah, she will have a huge targeting on her back.
Speaker 3: Cam as well. A lot of good people out there has.
Speaker 1: A reputation though, too, because your reputation Supersedia. Not Tony
Speaker 1: jumping on Veronica's flat, it was so it was so.
Speaker 3: Tony of Yeah. It really was just.
Speaker 1: Pull my name, Veronica, And then.
Speaker 3: TJ's like, what was good to see Tony was?
Speaker 5: I could tell that he has did a complete one
Speaker 5: eight right, He's I've seen a lot.
Speaker 3: Of maturity in him.
Speaker 5: You know, we've all made mistakes in the past, and
Speaker 5: he really came on there this season and I was
Speaker 5: just like, damn, man, I was proud of him. I
Speaker 5: was just proud of his gameplay and just having conversations
Speaker 5: and I'm like, damn, so.
Speaker 3: He's got us act together. Shout out to Tony.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely another one that I think everyone's really
Speaker 2: excited to see back. I mean literally, like you were
Speaker 2: saying in the beginning, the lineup of this All Stars cast,
Speaker 2: it feels like a regular season, Like there's so many
Speaker 2: big names on it that I think that's why I've
Speaker 2: been so anticipated. People have been waiting for this season
Speaker 2: to drop for like a year now, so it's just
Speaker 2: taken forever.
Speaker 3: And like this first, my son's eighteen. Now, by the way,
Speaker 3: that's how longest fence is a secret. He's grown. He's
Speaker 3: gonna get on the next season. Jeez.
Speaker 1: All right, we got to take a quick break, but
Speaker 1: we'll be right back after for this. Okay, let's get
Speaker 1: back to the show.
Speaker 2: I want to just get into voting a little bit,
Speaker 2: Like once you found out you were in the bottom,
Speaker 2: which obviously is like nobody wants to experience the bottom
Speaker 2: on the first episode, but you then found out that
Speaker 2: the middle had a lot of power, and obviously Cam
Speaker 2: has a great political game. So when you found out
Speaker 2: that like voting was going to eventually put two of
Speaker 2: the people into elimination and that you had Cam in
Speaker 2: the middle to be able to help with the votes,
Speaker 2: did you feel a little bit more comfortable.
Speaker 5: When you're losing in a challenge throughout the day, you
Speaker 5: imminately start counting. Yeah, before we even get back on
Speaker 5: a podium with TJ and you start counting your numbers,
Speaker 5: you start seeing in there before you.
Speaker 3: Already know you lost.
Speaker 5: So seeing that, I was like, okay, cool, Like I'm straight,
Speaker 5: I should be good, but you just never know.
Speaker 3: So many people haven't talked to in a while.
Speaker 5: I try to kind of base it off of relationships
Speaker 5: that I had in the past, and I've always been
Speaker 5: a pretty straight up player, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So it's just kind of like I should be good,
Speaker 5: but it's definitely scary.
Speaker 3: You don't.
Speaker 5: You don't want to be in the bottom. And obviously
Speaker 5: Cam is gonna always campaign as any as any you know,
Speaker 5: significant other would. And then when I started looking at
Speaker 5: the people, it's all about who you're in the bottom with,
Speaker 5: right If you're in the bottom with some people who
Speaker 5: don't have any people in the game, you straight.
Speaker 3: But I didn't want to say that out aloud. I
Speaker 3: reallybody passing a cigarette. I'm chilling, That's how I feel.
Speaker 5: I'm good, And so tyree knew it was going to
Speaker 5: be bad for him, and Steve knew it was going
Speaker 5: to be bad for him, like it wasn't you know,
Speaker 5: And Tyree knew it.
Speaker 3: He's like, damn, man, with you down here, bro, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be hard for somebody to say her name.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, Tyree always has that luck though, it's
Speaker 1: like every single time there is need to break.
Speaker 3: It's tough, you know, your game playing.
Speaker 5: Since I've had and I've had a lot of seasons too,
Speaker 5: so I've I've had some stuff where I did the
Speaker 5: people to where they probably won't want to vote me.
Speaker 5: But for the most part, I don't really have any
Speaker 5: enemies like that. I'm like, whatever, so we'll see how
Speaker 5: how if I come in the bottom again. If it's
Speaker 5: like that, people can't like trust me. People wanted me
Speaker 5: out of the game. They wanted me and Cam out
Speaker 5: of there.
Speaker 1: Soon, I'm sure because especially like it's like you don't
Speaker 1: even have to know Cam to know who she is
Speaker 1: and the way that she plays the game. I mean
Speaker 1: when we did Double Agents, it was like Cam knew
Speaker 1: every step before it was even made. I would sit
Speaker 1: there and she'd be like, niece, just trust me. And
Speaker 1: I mean I was playing with y'all and I know,
Speaker 1: I was like I almost felt like I was bambooz
Speaker 1: a little bit, but also like I give a shit
Speaker 1: because you know, I love you and I've known you forever.
Speaker 1: I love Cam. But it's just incredible the way that
Speaker 1: you both play. And I just want to know who
Speaker 1: is in your alliance at this point and was this
Speaker 1: something that you thought of before you got there. When
Speaker 1: you showed up at the house, you were like that person,
Speaker 1: that person, that person.
Speaker 5: Uh, well, really quickly, there's only two people that I've
Speaker 5: ever played.
Speaker 3: A game with that's gaming non stop. It's Cam and Paulie. Paulie.
Speaker 5: It's just I'm like, damn, bro, I'm trying to work out.
Speaker 5: He's like strategy the same yeah, and uh and Cam
Speaker 5: is the same way. She's like constantly just going that's
Speaker 5: and that's that's just their thing. But coming into the game,
Speaker 5: like I said, I didn't know a lot of these
Speaker 5: people were coming.
Speaker 3: A lot of them.
Speaker 5: I don't talk to me and Rachel are coop, but
Speaker 5: we don't talk like that.
Speaker 3: It might be whatever. So it was my number one
Speaker 3: guy was Brandon coming into the game.
Speaker 5: Brandon and Uh. I had a conversation with Tyree when
Speaker 5: we see each other at the airport. But other than that,
Speaker 5: we were just like, you know, we had no idea
Speaker 5: Carl was coming.
Speaker 3: We had a relationship with Kara uh outside of the challenge.
Speaker 3: Inside of the challenge, it was a little sticky. But yeah,
Speaker 3: so that was that was pretty much it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this with this.
Speaker 1: Season, Oh yeah, hype it up, wave it up.
Speaker 5: When I tell you it's gonna be And I'm not
Speaker 5: just saying that because like I'm on there, but it's
Speaker 5: gonna be a really it's so much drama that went
Speaker 5: on this season. It's just like, whoa, it's gonna be good.
Speaker 1: What I've been waited? Who should we look out for?
Speaker 1: Like what what? What possible rivalry is going to form?
Speaker 3: Like give us something, Camra, car.
Speaker 1: I just dropped my pen, not that you dropped your pen.
Speaker 3: What Yeah, it gets it gets really good. It gets
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 1: Oh I want to know this though. Is there any
Speaker 1: sicely hot romances.
Speaker 3: Who looks up on there? Nah? Yeah no no Laura
Speaker 3: La Nicole.
Speaker 2: Yeah we did there, which is shocking because after this
Speaker 2: she was like she's invisible.
Speaker 1: It was like not that her lips are clearly.
Speaker 5: I can't say this season I got a chance to
Speaker 5: really get a chance to know Jay better.
Speaker 3: Jay and I were there.
Speaker 5: J and I were cool from bally Yexa's too. And
Speaker 5: when he see me this season, he was like, man,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm sorry. I guess you know he had
Speaker 5: voted me in or something West like got in his
Speaker 5: head and he was like, man, this season, bro, I
Speaker 5: got you.
Speaker 3: So him and I became really cool this season, cooler
Speaker 3: thanm you know.
Speaker 5: We always were strained, but I hadn't seen him in
Speaker 5: a while. So he be on the lookout for Jay.
Speaker 5: Be on the lookout for Jay. Be on the lookout
Speaker 5: for Jake.
Speaker 1: We love a comeback. He's been crossfitting, you know, crossfitting
Speaker 1: and becoming a firefighters joke.
Speaker 3: J may Or may not redeem it. Yeah, this season
Speaker 3: we love that.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of comeback story and redeeming selves, can we
Speaker 2: talk about the elimination a little bit against Steve and
Speaker 2: Tyree because.
Speaker 1: Both of them.
Speaker 2: Steve last season or was it All Stars when he
Speaker 2: went against Tech and was absolutely demolished by Tech, and
Speaker 2: I think he felt like he had a lot to prove.
Speaker 1: And obviously Tyron improved because he's always down there.
Speaker 2: I hadn't put on a great shot like this elimination.
Speaker 2: Like I really thought Tyree was going to put it
Speaker 2: in the like we was going to take it home.
Speaker 1: He was going to put it in at one point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was going to say put it in the bag
Speaker 1: and put it in cylindrical thing where all the other
Speaker 1: star balls are. Like what, I want to know where
Speaker 1: that ball? I don't know that.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 5: Seeing Tyree go down there, I was like, I felt
Speaker 5: bad that he had to go in there. But I'm
Speaker 5: like ship you and me, bro, so you know, same
Speaker 5: with Steve. That's how it always is.
Speaker 3: But watching that that was a very tough elimination because
Speaker 3: it was anybody's game.
Speaker 5: It wasn't like, you know, you could go in there
Speaker 5: and just kind of could tell like who's gonna win.
Speaker 5: And he was just dominating man, And Steve came with
Speaker 5: that good strategy of how they wanted the balls.
Speaker 3: And I was pissed when Steve won because I was like, man, hell,
Speaker 3: you can't do that. That's cheap, you can't. I really
Speaker 3: wanted to see Tyree come back, and yeah.
Speaker 1: That would have been nice for his morale too, But yeah.
Speaker 5: You're talking about a great comeback, like wow, and and
Speaker 5: Steve forgot what.
Speaker 1: The ball was at he did, Yeah, he did.
Speaker 3: I think that, Yeah, they do.
Speaker 5: He forgot, he forgot what was that he hot back
Speaker 5: in the water when he grabbed it.
Speaker 3: We were all just like, whoa damn?
Speaker 1: So is it safe to say that that comeback was nuts?
Speaker 3: That was that was.
Speaker 1: Okay? Okay?
Speaker 5: You know with Tyree, with Tyree losing, there's so many
Speaker 5: of us challengers that have these same stories. You know,
Speaker 5: I have never got a win up until this point.
Speaker 5: You got a Nissa, I think who hasn't got a win?
Speaker 5: You got Josh who hasn't I think he finally got
Speaker 5: him an elimination win.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: There's so many of us, different challengers that all have
Speaker 5: a whether it's your first elimination round or you never
Speaker 5: want to daily, it's always something with some people. So
Speaker 5: I hope that he gets a chance to come back. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and you know, maybe not even going to elimination, just
Speaker 5: go all the way to the final. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would like to see that too.
Speaker 3: Move on.
Speaker 1: I want to know how do you feel about Steve
Speaker 1: now they stole your boys star?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I definitely had a solar taste in
Speaker 5: my mom, like, man, what are you doing when you
Speaker 5: see when you hear of another alliance, you see another alliance, like,
Speaker 5: you know, we against him.
Speaker 3: I was just like like what and I don't. I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't know Steve at that point, but I definitely
Speaker 5: didn't like that he took Brandon Star. You know, but
Speaker 5: why wouldn't he have tookn Brandon Star? You know he doesn't,
Speaker 5: he doesn't know him, so emotions out of it. He
Speaker 5: played well. I watched before I did All Stars, I
Speaker 5: watched the previous two seasons to kind of get a
Speaker 5: feel for who might be on there now. So Steve
Speaker 5: was cool, hand model, a lot of hand jobs.
Speaker 1: He's had that just so much like and then they
Speaker 1: turned red and nobody wants that kind of a hand job,
Speaker 1: but like Steve, they don't.
Speaker 2: Okay, can we just talk about how it was such
Speaker 2: a missed edit that there wasn't like a slow mo
Speaker 2: of him hand placing that.
Speaker 1: Why they really they dropped the ball on that one
Speaker 1: that would have completed the circle.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was insane when you were watching it,
Speaker 2: Lee where you mentioned this earlier that it was really
Speaker 2: long watching them compete in the elimination, Is that about
Speaker 2: how long did it take for.
Speaker 5: Them to find the last ball because Steve he put
Speaker 5: all the balls on the sand, so they were walking
Speaker 5: around and Tyreesa had his goggles on, like, bro, take
Speaker 5: them fucking goggles off, though, like you know, and so
Speaker 5: because I feel like you could see better without them,
Speaker 5: you know, woking in the water. So everybody's screaming, and
Speaker 5: you know they're not trying to hear them that because
Speaker 5: they're the ones down there competing. They just look at
Speaker 5: we just standing there just watching. You can hear his
Speaker 5: crickets and they just looking for the balls. And then
Speaker 5: when Steve got it, I was so angry. I was
Speaker 5: like at the beginning again, like f Steve, well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think that if cam's cam's down there,
Speaker 1: or not even cams down there, you guys are playing
Speaker 1: the game. It's getting towards the end. Somebody needs a star.
Speaker 1: Would you throw yourself into elimination to get one for her?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I think I think we had already talked about that.
Speaker 5: It would have been the other way around, because we
Speaker 5: felt like I was more fit to run run a final,
Speaker 5: right if it was gonna be something that's gonna.
Speaker 3: Be strenuous or whatever.
Speaker 5: I didn't really want her having to climb the mountain,
Speaker 5: fucking scar from having a c second bus back open
Speaker 5: or carry some heavy So so yeah, but uh, we
Speaker 5: were like cool, like if if this hasn't happened, she
Speaker 5: could go get me a star. So we was already
Speaker 5: thinking that. Then people were like, oh, they must they're
Speaker 5: trying to get this season a leader on because because
Speaker 5: now you could think of like, who's the only person
Speaker 5: that's gonna do something like that, right, nobody else is.
Speaker 1: Gonna give me the give me the show, give me
Speaker 1: the whole show. Listen, hop me. I will hop in
Speaker 1: the back of somebody's pickup while they're filming us, just
Speaker 1: so they could drive it to the top of the mountains.
Speaker 1: I could win. I don't care. You would have been like, okay.
Speaker 3: Of course no. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So she she was just like listen, you know, both
Speaker 5: of us really came straight off the couch right. Every
Speaker 5: day it got closer to doing it all starts. I
Speaker 5: was like, all right, you can just start working out
Speaker 5: and I ain't ship. And then she definitely wasn't doing anything.
Speaker 5: We was chilling, but.
Speaker 1: You have been doing a lot since you ran a
Speaker 1: half marathon. Stopped drinking.
Speaker 5: I did, man, I did that all was off of
Speaker 5: I did this program called sudy f Hard.
Speaker 3: Have you heard of it?
Speaker 1: You did it twice because you messed up?
Speaker 5: Yeah three times? Ship got three times? Yeah, three times.
Speaker 5: I accidentally a chocolate chip by accident.
Speaker 1: Oh it fell into your mouth. I hate when I
Speaker 1: accidentally ate a chocolate chike.
Speaker 3: I did, and then the next one. I think I
Speaker 3: forgot to do, like my reading or whatever. But when
Speaker 3: my boy.
Speaker 5: Sent me the program and it said no drinking in there.
Speaker 5: You know, my mama passed away last year. She died
Speaker 5: of alcoholic. She died alcoholic. And I was like, you
Speaker 5: know what, Lee like, let's see if you could do
Speaker 5: this seventy five days without drinking. So for me it
Speaker 5: was more so to see if I could.
Speaker 3: Not be drinking. And now I'm like almost nine months sober.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's amazing, dude.
Speaker 2: Can you explain the rules for seventy five hards just
Speaker 2: for anybody who doesn't know what that is.
Speaker 3: Seventy five Hard is a mental toughness program.
Speaker 5: It's not like a physical program, but with doing it,
Speaker 5: you have to work out twice a day. The workouts
Speaker 5: has to be forty five minutes a piece. They can't
Speaker 5: be consecutive, so you got to have like four hours
Speaker 5: in between. You have to read ten patures of a
Speaker 5: self development book. You can't drink any alcohol. You have
Speaker 5: to drink a gallon of water every day, and you have.
Speaker 3: To you have to stick to a diet. You can't
Speaker 3: cheat on the diet.
Speaker 5: And the reason I ate this pancake by accident was
Speaker 5: I was in Detroit, cameras in Houston and Kingston. D
Speaker 5: 'm having to go to the hospital and I was
Speaker 5: just like, I was just trying to grab some food
Speaker 5: real quick, and my sister was like, yo, it was
Speaker 5: a chocolate tip in that pancake. And so just out
Speaker 5: of integrity, there's nobody watching you. I was like, you
Speaker 5: know what, I'm gonna start over.
Speaker 1: You got to keep yourself honest.
Speaker 3: Good for you. Yeah, yeah, So I did that.
Speaker 5: So it's been because it's hard to try to stay
Speaker 5: in shape if you're not doing challenges anymore. You know, right,
Speaker 5: you got it. So he's saying, hey, I'm running half marathon.
Speaker 5: I never could picture myself running fucking thirteen miles. I
Speaker 5: was like, there's no way I'll ever be able to
Speaker 5: do this, And I just like, for this cup I
Speaker 5: just kept running.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So it end up working out.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's great. I'm doing the sixty five soft
Speaker 1: what's that it's not seventy five?
Speaker 3: Part are Franklin like I.
Speaker 1: I haven't run the bridge. It's so scary and it's
Speaker 1: so cold out it just snowed. I mean, I run,
Speaker 1: but listen, I run by the I run on Kelly
Speaker 1: Drive and it is a lot, and I look at
Speaker 1: the water and it's it's gross.
Speaker 5: And I wish I could have seen you while we
Speaker 5: were while we were out there. Really is nice, man,
Speaker 5: Philly is hella nice? So you got a lot of
Speaker 5: great areas to run out.
Speaker 1: That's the nicest thing anyone, Yeah about it. Normally we're
Speaker 1: not nice, and neither's our city, but you know what
Speaker 1: there are some keep stayed right by though, and had
Speaker 1: like a really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was over. Yeah he was running the.
Speaker 1: Stupid Then Franklin back and forth and was you should
Speaker 1: start doing that. I'm like, I'll just jump amazing at
Speaker 1: that point, jeez, amazing. Well, dude, le Ray, it's so
Speaker 1: good to hear that you're absolutely crushing it, Like I
Speaker 1: love that you're doing so much just amazing work for
Speaker 1: yourself and your body off the show, like you're a
Speaker 1: straight up family man, Like your life is just expanding
Speaker 1: and blooming in so many beautiful ways, and it's great
Speaker 1: to see you back on the screen.
Speaker 2: I do want to get one last question in before
Speaker 2: we let you go and get back to your gym session.
Speaker 1: But sorry, sorry that we're in a different time zone.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You mentioned, you know, when Steve steels Brandon Starr, that
Speaker 2: you realize that a second alliance was forming, And I
Speaker 2: just want like a little teas.
Speaker 1: For the viewers.
Speaker 2: What kind of alliances are going to be formed in
Speaker 2: this next season coming up on All Stars.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of people from road Rules.
Speaker 1: Think about that.
Speaker 5: People from you know, they definitely want to stick together.
Speaker 5: You got some pe people who like someone like Floor
Speaker 5: or keep It. Even though they're from road Rules, they're
Speaker 5: absolutely new. So we can kind of get a chance
Speaker 5: to kind of sneaking there and and do that. But it's,
Speaker 5: as I said before, this is gonna be a really
Speaker 5: really good season.
Speaker 3: I couldn't. I've been waiting a while for it to
Speaker 3: come out.
Speaker 5: I'm super excited about uh the episodes that are are
Speaker 5: that are coming, and it's gonna be a lot of drama. Normally,
Speaker 5: I'm not going drama. Like when I look at the show,
Speaker 5: I never really want to see like the drama. But
Speaker 5: it's so people know so many of us from back
Speaker 5: in the day, so you'll be a connect like, Okay,
Speaker 5: this is why this person is man.
Speaker 3: At this person or people that you think would have
Speaker 3: beef have beef. It's going to be really good.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited, you know.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't want to see the drama, but
Speaker 5: it's uh, you know. And then when drama pops off
Speaker 5: in the house, I love it. I'm like, cool, it
Speaker 5: ain't got nothing to do with me.
Speaker 1: Grab your popcorn, not your chocolate, your pancake, but grab
Speaker 1: your popcorn.
Speaker 5: So for the people who listening, don't these challenges aren't
Speaker 5: gonna be like some pushover challenges.
Speaker 3: They're really good challenges.
Speaker 5: And I feel that the game was set up to
Speaker 5: where like anybody can actually win it. Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 5: I think that's good. At first, I used to be like, man,
Speaker 5: hell I want I want to be mad in the sand.
Speaker 5: I don't want to do none of that. No more,
Speaker 5: give me a fucking puzzle too. I want to chill out. Yeah,
Speaker 5: hell no, I'm not trying to none of that. So yeah,
Speaker 5: the challenges are really good. A lot of people that
Speaker 5: you haven't seen in a while, and people that didn't
Speaker 5: do good years ago, they may or may not be
Speaker 5: redeeming themselves.
Speaker 1: I love that, all right, love that, Let's get it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Le for taking time out of your day
Speaker 1: to talk to us. We have missed you so much
Speaker 1: and I'm sure the fans will be so happy to
Speaker 1: see you back on their screens.
Speaker 5: Man, thank y'all for having me. Needs to get your
Speaker 5: ass on that, Ben Franklin.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make Toy running with me because she's back in.
Speaker 3: Tori lived out there, so she's gonna meet me.
Speaker 1: We'll meet in the middle in high five and run
Speaker 1: back to that'd be cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah we could do That's like a mile and a
Speaker 2: hal for the tip, Le and yeah, Lee, thank you
Speaker 2: so much again. Is there anywhere we can follow you
Speaker 2: on social media? Support you any businesses you want to
Speaker 2: promote before we sign off?
Speaker 5: I wish I had my cash because you guys can
Speaker 5: support me that way.
Speaker 3: It's about the only fucking support I need. With with Barbara, I.
Speaker 5: Don't I'm not accepting no more new clients. I only
Speaker 5: cut people that I know for not hearing out. Really,
Speaker 5: if I don't personally, if I don't personally know you,
Speaker 5: you don't personally have my number, you will not be
Speaker 5: receiving a haircut. I'm fully booked now, So like this
Speaker 5: is too much to be trying to like accept all
Speaker 5: these new clients. So it's just like I built this
Speaker 5: relationship with these people out here in Houston. So you
Speaker 5: can follow me on really the barber, uh the barber
Speaker 5: on Instagram, but but.
Speaker 1: You can't get a haircut. He's exclusive. I love that.
Speaker 1: Remain that way for you. You'll be sought after. You
Speaker 1: do give the freshest cuts. People hate when you leave
Speaker 1: were around. If you need a fade or anything else.
Speaker 3: I like that. We should stick with that.
Speaker 1: Gonna get t shirts made. I'm actually gonna get a
Speaker 1: fade by Leroy and let them know.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I watched a couple of previous seasons.
Speaker 1: I was like, Gobbo messed up. Everybody had like a
Speaker 1: weird bowl.
Speaker 3: That's who, that's who, that's who.
Speaker 1: Yes, we love shout out to God, but we love you.
Speaker 1: But put the clippers down. Brother.
Speaker 3: All I want to do is party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really what it was.
Speaker 3: I just want to party.
Speaker 1: I love you that royal. Thank you so much. Give
Speaker 1: camera squeeze for us please, I.
Speaker 3: Will Well she gets back from.
Speaker 1: Getting her nails done better, there's a whole baby in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I'm about to sit here and I gotta I'm gonna
Speaker 5: watch windows when she comes to the house.
Speaker 3: I need to make it seem like I was doing
Speaker 3: something she was going on.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, go clean that.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: All right, Thank you so much. God. That was an
Speaker 1: amazing interview. Leroy is so funny and like what what
Speaker 1: a man? Yeah, and so honest, like you can't. He's
Speaker 1: just great and I'm so happy to see him and
Speaker 1: Cam thriving on our TV screens and at home in
Speaker 1: the real world. So totally. I really appreciated him.
Speaker 2: And it's also great to be back with you and
Speaker 2: I know you too, kiddies. Oh my gosh, I'm so
Speaker 2: excited to watch this season. This first episode has gotten
Speaker 2: me super excited and I just think it's gonna be amazing.
Speaker 1: I burn one hundred and fifty calories watching it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like running. I'm like, well, I felt like it
Speaker 1: was in it. I got so anxious. I think I
Speaker 1: get really anxious when I watched them now, my heart
Speaker 1: rate was up.
Speaker 2: My watch told me I need to relax, and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, I'm in it.
Speaker 1: It's really good.
Speaker 2: But honestly, like, I love that Leroy tes the season
Speaker 2: the way he did, Like, I think there's going to
Speaker 2: be some amazing rival reformed. I mean listen, like from
Speaker 2: a view when you're in it, it doesn't feel great,
Speaker 2: but from a viewer's perspective, it's always nice to watch
Speaker 2: a little, you know, a little conflict every once in
Speaker 2: a while. So I'm excited to see what happens this
Speaker 2: season for sure, me too. And Anissa, I'm excited to
Speaker 2: chat about it with you on socials as it's airing.
Speaker 1: So where can we follow you and how can we
Speaker 1: support you? Folks, it's still Anissa MTV and there's nothing
Speaker 1: I can do about it. Whether I know this is
Speaker 1: on Paramount Plus, but I'm the MTV girl. Yeah, Anissa MTV.
Speaker 1: That's a n E s a MTV. I am not
Speaker 1: on Twitter because well I have one, but I can't
Speaker 1: log into my original one and I don't really care
Speaker 1: because it's still unhealthy in my mind. What else? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can find me in these streets. Yeah nice. And
Speaker 1: as for you, Tory, where can they find you and
Speaker 1: support you? You have so many things going on.
Speaker 2: You can find me on the Ben Franklin Bridge, meeting
Speaker 2: you halfway giving you a high five.
Speaker 1: Nuh I know? Yeah? Like you guys can follow me
Speaker 1: at tory.
Speaker 2: Underscore Deal if you didn't know, I released a poetry
Speaker 2: book called The Soul Spill. But listen, all of my
Speaker 2: stuff and all the ways you can support me are
Speaker 2: through my Instagram. So I'm not gonna drown you with
Speaker 2: a list of places to follow me. Just hit me
Speaker 2: up on I just look at her link tree. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you paid for it, so it's really fan Yeah. Just
Speaker 2: go look at look at my link tree and it'll
Speaker 2: be totally fine on my Instagram. More importantly, I just
Speaker 2: want you guys to watch these episodes with us and
Speaker 2: listen to the podcast because this is going to be
Speaker 2: an amazing season and I'm so excited to have you
Speaker 2: guys here with us.
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