1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: Good morning. 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 3: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 3: stories we're following today. 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: Karen, we begin with the latest on the government shutdown. 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: It's about to lead to a partial shutdown of the 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: nation's air space. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy says the Federal 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: Aviation Administration will begin cutting flight capacity by ten percent 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: at forty high volume locations starting tomorrow. That's to alleviate 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: pressure on air traffic controllers who are working through the 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: shutdown without pay. 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 4: I anticipate there'll be additional disruptions, there'll be frustration. We 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 4: are working with the airlines, they're going to work with passengers, 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 4: but in the end, our sole role is to make 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 4: sure that we keep this airspace as safe as possible. 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy made the announcement alongside FAA Administrator 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: Brian Bedford. We get more from Bloomberg Aviation correspondent Sid Phillip. 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 5: This would actually be a really bad step for the 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 5: airline industry because they're going to have to reduce flights 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 5: in order to actually make these cuts, and so we're 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 5: going to see a situation where airlines are forced to 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 5: have to cut the flights, cut roots, and cut services 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 5: to destinations, which could lead to some disruption for passengers 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 5: who book travel, especially as we go into the holidays, 25 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 5: and we have to see how long the shutdown last. 26 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: Bloomberg sid Philip reports the cuts are expected to be staggered, 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: with four percent of flights reduced tomorrow and five percent Saturday. 28 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: Sources tell Bloomberg News international flights will not be affected. 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: Well along with the shutdown, Nathan, the big wins for 30 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: Democrats in this week's elections have shifted the political landscape. 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: President Trump says the mid term stakes are set after 32 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: New Yorkers elected Democratic socialists O Run Mom Donnie to 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: be their next mayor. 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 6: The decision facing all Americans could not be more clear. 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 6: We have a choice between communism and common sense. Does 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 6: that make sense to you? Common sense? It's common sense 37 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 6: or communism. 38 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: President Trump spoke at the American Business Forum in Miami. 39 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: But Democratic Congressman Ted Low says there's a reason why 40 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 3: voters in blue and purple states pick their candidates on Tuesday. 41 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 7: Under the policies of Donald Trump and Republicans. 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 8: Inflation continues to increase, food prices have gone up, and 43 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 8: health care cross of skyrocketing. 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: Democratic Tim Loeu of California spoke to ABC News and 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 3: now Republicans are split on hunter respond to their losses. 46 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 3: The Washington Post reports some strategists think President Trump needs 47 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: to get more involved to fire up his base, while 48 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: others suggest Congression or Republicans develop their own message on 49 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: the economy. 50 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: Of course, Karen zornmom Donnie was one of the big 51 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: Democratic winners on election night, and now some of the 52 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: world's business leaders are adapting to a new reality. A 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: cretic of capitalism about to run the world's financial capital 54 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Diamond tell CNN he's willing 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: to help. 56 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 4: I'm hoping any mayor goes what's right to help of 57 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: that city. 58 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 9: If you do it right, it benefits all the citizens. 59 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 3: If you do it wrong, it hurts all the citizens. 60 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 6: So yeah, I would help someone if they wanted my help. 61 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: And Zora mum Donnie says he's willing to work with 62 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: Diamond and other Wall Street CEOs. 63 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 10: I look forward to meeting with Jamie Diamond and meeting 64 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 10: with anyone who is concerned about the future of our 65 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 10: city and is invested in the vitality of that same city. 66 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 10: And these are not very different from the conversations I 67 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 10: had over the course of this campaign with many business leaders. 68 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 10: But while we may have disagreements on fiscal policy, we 69 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 10: also found many areas of agreement as to what the 70 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 10: city actually needed. 71 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: It was New York mayor like Zoron Mum Donnie and 72 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: along with Jamie Diamond, City Group CEO Jane Fraser says, quote, 73 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: we hope to work with the mayor elect on making 74 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: the city an even better place for our people and 75 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: clients to live and work. 76 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: Well, Nathan. The Supreme Court heard arguments about whether President 77 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: Trump can unilaterally impose sweeping tariffs. It is a pivotal 78 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: test of just how far a president's authority can reach, 79 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: and Bloomberg's Amy Morris has more from Washington. 80 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 9: Justice has seemed skeptical of Trump's power to unilaterally impose 81 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 9: sweeping tariffs. Several conservative justices signaled their concerns. Chief Justice 82 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 9: John Roberts questioned the executive branch taxing authority. 83 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 11: The vehicle is in position of taxes on Americans, and 84 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 11: that has always been the core power of Congress. 85 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 9: But Solicitor General John Souer, defending the tariffs, argues, this 86 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 9: is not a tax. These are regulatory tariffs. They are 87 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 9: not revenue raising tariffs. The fact that they raise revenues 88 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 9: only incidental. A decision could come by mid to late December. 89 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 9: In Washington. Amy Morris Bloomberg Radio, Amy. 90 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: Thanks. 91 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: Let's turn to the markets now. Futures are little changed 92 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: to lower this morning, following yesterday's gains on Wall Street. 93 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: Shares of Qualcomm are down three percent. The largest maker 94 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: of smartphone processors became the latest chip maker to post 95 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: profit above estimates and deliver an upbeat forecast, but that 96 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: wasn't good enough for outsized expectations. Qualcom stock is up 97 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: forty percent since April. 98 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 3: The Revolution and artificial intelligence Nathan has helped lead to 99 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: the most job cuts in the month of October in 100 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 3: more than two decades, According to data from outplacement firm Challenger, 101 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: Gray and Christmas. Companies last month announced more than one 102 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty three thousand job cuts, and that's nearly 103 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 3: triple the number during the same month last year. The 104 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: job cuts are attributed to AI adoptions, softening consumer and 105 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 3: corporate spending, and rising costs, which are driving built tightening 106 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: and hiring freezes. 107 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: All global bond sales have soared to a record this year. 108 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: Bowers are taking advantage of easy market conditions to fund 109 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: everything from the boom at Ai projects to a revival 110 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: and acquisitions. Issuances set a new annual record of five 111 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: point nine to four trillion dollars, topping the previous high 112 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: set last year, and there's still nearly two months of 113 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: this year to go. 114 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: Well. Over in Europe, Nathan, it's decision day at the 115 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: Bank of England and a tricky call for the UK's 116 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: rate setting committee, and Bloomberg's Un Potts joins us from 117 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 3: London with more you and good morning. 118 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 12: Karl and Nathan. The Bank of England has been cutting 119 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 12: rates once a quarter since August of last year, but 120 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 12: the expectation from markets and economists is that the Beewee 121 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 12: will break that pattern today and leave rates on hold 122 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 12: at four percent. Governor Andrew Bailey is seen as the 123 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 12: key swing voter on a divided committee, and although there 124 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 12: are signs of a cooling of inflation pressures, policymakers may 125 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 12: prefer to wait and see what's in the government's budgets. 126 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 12: That's due in less than three weeks from now. In London. 127 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: I'm youuing pots Blomberg Radio Time Now for a look 128 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: at some of the other stories making news in New 129 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: York and around the world, and for that reck, joined 130 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: by Bloomberg's Monica Rigs Moonica, good morning. 131 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 8: Good morning, Karen. Federal investigators will be back out in Louisville, 132 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 8: Kentucky this morning scouring the charge site where a UPS 133 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 8: plane crashed earlier this week, killing at least twelve people. 134 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 8: Doctor Jason Smith is a trauma surgeon at the University 135 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 8: of Louisville Hospital. 136 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,119 Speaker 7: We've seen blast injuries from the explosion itself. We've also 137 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 7: seen some shrapnel injuries where flying pieces of debris have 138 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 7: hit either bystanders or people in relatively close proximity to 139 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 7: the accident. 140 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 8: Authorities there are still trying to figure out why the 141 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 8: plane caught fire and lost an engine shortly after takeoff. 142 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 8: Partial snap benefits for November will be a little more 143 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 8: than estimated, the USDA, revising its guidance last night. 144 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 9: To comply with a federal court order. 145 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 8: It now says recipients will get sixty five percent of 146 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 8: their benefits this month, as the government shutdown continues. 147 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 9: President Trump says. 148 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 8: He is not going to the G twenty summit later 149 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 8: this month in South Africa. 150 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 6: You know, I'm not going to. We have a G 151 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 6: twenty meeting of South Africa. South Africa shouldn't even be 152 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 6: in the geez anymore because what's happened there is bad. 153 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 13: I'm not going. 154 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 6: I told him, I'm not going. I'm not going to 155 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 6: represent our country there. 156 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 8: Trump was speaking at a business forum in Miami last 157 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 8: night and said the US will stop all aid to 158 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 8: Nigeria and go guns a blazing if the country doesn't 159 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 8: stop killing Christians. The Israeli military says Hamas has handed 160 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 8: over remains believed to be another deceased hostage to the 161 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 8: Red Cross. If confirmed by forensic testing, that leaves the 162 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 8: remains of just six others in Gaza Here at home, 163 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 8: unionized Starbucks baristas are prepping for the biggest strike they've 164 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 8: ever been on next week unless they can secure a contract. 165 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 8: Those strikes would start November thirteenth, the company's Red Cup Day. 166 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 8: And we're learning a little bit more about how jewel 167 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 8: thieves were able to crack security at the Louver last 168 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 8: month to steal one hundred million dollars worth of Crown Jewels. 169 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 8: French prosecutors say the password to the museum's video surveillance 170 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 8: system was louver and they were just one camera off 171 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 8: from getting caught because there was just one camera on 172 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 8: the window they broke into. Four suspects have been charge 173 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 8: for the robbery. So far, at least one remains at large. 174 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 8: Global News twenty four hours a day and whenever you 175 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 8: want it with Bloomberg News Now. I'm Monica Rix and 176 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 8: this is Bloomberg Karen. 177 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 9: Thanks Monica. 178 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: Time now for our Bloomberg Sports update, and for that 179 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: we bring in John stash Hour. 180 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 9: Thanks Darin. 181 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 13: Week ten in the NFL begins tonight in the AFC West, 182 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 13: the two and six Raiders visiting the seven and two Broncos. 183 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 13: They've won six in a row. FC South Sunday has 184 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 13: Houston at Jacksonville on the Texans will be quarterback by 185 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 13: Davis Mills CJ. Stroud out he's in concussion protocol and 186 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 13: Arizona QB Kyler Murray's going to miss at least another month. 187 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 13: He's been placed on injured reserve. Another milestone for Alex 188 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 13: Zobevskin in the last year past, Wayne Gretskin became the 189 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 13: NHL's all time leading goal scorer last night, career goal 190 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 13: number nine hundred. That to Bloomberg Sports Update. 191 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: Stay with us more from Bloomberg day Break coming up after. 192 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: This Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 193 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 194 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 195 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. With the government shutdown in 196 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: Washington down to a record day thirty seven, the Trump 197 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 2: administration says it is forced to cut back on flights 198 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: in some of the nation's busiest airspace starting on day 199 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 2: thirty eight. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy says there's too much 200 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: strain on air traffic controllers working through the shutdown without pay. 201 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 4: There is going to be a ten percent reduction in 202 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: capacity at forty of our locations. The administrator is going 203 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 4: to tell you that it's been This is database. 204 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy made the announcement alongside FA Administrator 205 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: Brian Bedford, and for more, We're joined by Bloomberg News 206 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 2: Managing Editor for Space and Aviation, Benedict Camel. Ten percent 207 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: in forty locations sounds major, Benedict. How disruptive could this be? 208 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 11: Good morning, Good morning. Yes, this will be disruptive, and 209 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 11: particularly on domestic routes. What we know for now is 210 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 11: this isn't going to be on the routes that are 211 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 11: in the country in not so much the international routes. 212 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 11: If they were to do that, that would be even 213 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 11: more disruptive. They're trying to manage it in a sort 214 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 11: of cascading way, so we're going to get a four 215 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 11: percent cutback first, then five, and then sort of work 216 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 11: our way up to ten percent. So it's not going 217 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 11: to happen in one fell swoop. We don't yet know 218 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 11: where these forty so called high volume markets will be. 219 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 11: We'll get the details on that today. And we don't 220 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 11: also know whether it will end at ten percent. Sean Duffy, 221 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 11: who we just heard, he did say this is a 222 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 11: data led exercise and if the data, in his words, 223 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 11: goes in the wrong direction, we might see additional restrictions, 224 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 11: so ten percent might not even be the end of it. 225 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 11: And with every additional percentage point, obviously the pain will 226 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 11: become more pronounced for travelers. 227 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: Even before this announcement, of course, Benedict. We've heard Transportation 228 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: Secretary Duffy say that he'd be willing to shut down 229 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: airspace entirely if the safety is an issue during the 230 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: government shut down. 231 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 9: I mean, could we see that go this far? 232 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 11: I mean, that's probably the sort of the nuclear option there, 233 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 11: I say, and we'll see where this ten percent reduction 234 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 11: takes us. What they're trying to do is essentially take 235 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 11: capacity out of a very strained market. We have had 236 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 11: days where they have been real aseruptions, but we've also 237 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 11: had a couple of days where things have sort of 238 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 11: hummed along just nicely. It's difficult to see a definitive 239 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 11: pattern at this point. It's really up and down, and 240 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 11: we are all tracking that very carefully. But one thing 241 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 11: is for sure. Sean Duffy has increased the pressure. He's 242 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 11: come out continuously in the last week saying we will 243 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 11: see disruptions, we will see chaos, we will have to 244 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 11: see action as a response. So that's sort of been 245 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 11: the continuous theme from the government side. Obviously, there's also 246 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 11: a slightly political undertone in that we know that the Republicans. 247 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 11: Republicans are blaming the Democrats for the shutdown, so that 248 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 11: is a bit of a tool that is being used. 249 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 11: But Duffy again will tell you this is the data 250 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 11: that we're seeing, and we have to respond. 251 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: In terms of how the data plays out. How could 252 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: this unfold working with the airlines to make these flight 253 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: pullbacks actually happen at airports. 254 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 11: So airlines will look at, Okay, where's the capacity that 255 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 11: we can take out of the market with minimal disruption. 256 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 11: This is why they say for now we're going to 257 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 11: foe on regional and domestic mainline flights. So that's an 258 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 11: exercise that we will go through in the next couple 259 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 11: of days. The good news is we are coming out 260 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 11: of the busiest travel season and you know the summer 261 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 11: period is over. Yes, we have Thanksgiving still coming up, 262 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 11: but right now there's a little bit of a lull 263 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 11: and they might be able to accommodate those additional seats 264 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 11: that they will need. So we heard from We heard 265 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 11: from the United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby last night in 266 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 11: a memo to employees where he said, we will try 267 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 11: and accommodate all the travelers on the council flights as 268 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 11: best as we can. Elsewhere we're working through the system, 269 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 11: so they're trying to keep these disruptions to a minimum. 270 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 11: They are also looking at the bottom line. This was 271 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 11: supposed to be a strong quarter. We came out of 272 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 11: a very good third quarter, and the hopes from airlines 273 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 11: was that things would continue like this into the fourth quarter. 274 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 11: So they obviously also don't want to see a disruption 275 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 11: that sort of destroys their earnings in the fourth quarter. 276 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 2: In our last thirty seconds, I wanted to ask you 277 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 2: about how this could affect airline profitability at a time 278 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: when we've heard from a number of these airlines during 279 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: earnings calls that they're seeing a pretty high demand for 280 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: travel right now. 281 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 11: Yes, indeed, so what we're seeing is that more travelers 282 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 11: are going into what we call the shoulder season, so 283 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 11: the week of fourth quarter they are booking additional flights. 284 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 11: We've seen a great focus on premium travel and those 285 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 11: are vulnerable markets, and we came into the year with 286 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 11: a strong sense of growth. 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