1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: You want to bring up my stuff. Let's talk about 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: your home cam. Excuse me, I'm not talking you. Well, 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: i'm talking to you. We've all shame. I'm not talking 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: to you, and I'm shut to you, ging mouth. I've 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: had enough of you, you beast, beast. Yeah, how dare you? 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: How dare me? You came into my own and I apologized. No, 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: you didn't three, Actually you didn't. 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: I don't like you. 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Guess what. I don't particularly like you either. 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: Oh good. 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: I can't find one damn thing to like about you 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: right now. Oh good, I've never found one thing to 13 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: like about you. 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 2: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodunks podcast 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, October third, twenty twenty three. 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: I'm Jay east keats here in the Classic Factory, and 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: alongside me as always, it's Matapsha Hopoy, Trick, Kirby hel 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: Hey Yo over Yonder, the man making the magic hap 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: been super producer, a super guy with dates. It's JD. Hello, Hey, JD. Hey. 20 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: We were a little concerned heading into today's show whether 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: you had the right date on the title that we 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: see there off the top, because I said right before 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: we went Live. Sometimes you struggle when we get into 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: a new month. 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 3: I do catch wait till the new year, but yeah, 26 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: I was a ninety percent sure and uh hey came 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 3: up on top this with time. 28 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 4: So very happy you nailed it and nailed it. 29 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: Its October third. Before we get into today's no Dunk's 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: a quick update about our guy tasks. Yesterday, Tassi got 31 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: the green light from all doctors to move into an 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: inpatient rehab facility. This is incredibly positive news. Massive stepped 33 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: forward in his recovery, so he's going to be in 34 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: the new hospital here for for some time until he's 35 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: strong enough both physically and mentally before you can head home. 36 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: No exact timeline with that, but Danny, his wife, is 37 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: hopeful it won't be too long. So awesome, awesome news 38 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: here for Tessie. 39 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, great update, No idea how much longer he's got, 40 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 4: but great to season progress for sure. 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: Shout out to the stream team joining us live here 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: on YouTube. We love to see that. Like the vid 43 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: comment away subscribe, we just hit eighty six thousand subs, 44 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: so thank you there. All you podcast listeners leave your 45 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 2: boys a five star rating and review, especially as we 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: get ready for the NBA season helps some new NBA 47 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 2: fans maybe find the show and get hooked. And that's 48 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: the whole point here, because we're every day once the 49 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: season gets underway. But today TK we're doing a podcast 50 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 2: we've never done before. That's right, we're looking back at 51 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: last year's NBA predictions because in a couple of weeks time, 52 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: we'll start doing our preseason prediction podcast. We'll do a 53 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: lot of over unders, we'll do some tears. We'll obviously 54 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: make predictions when it comes to the awards. We do 55 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: this every year. Sometimes they're called burning questions, sometimes they're not. 56 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: But it is a series of pods that we do 57 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: leading up to the start of the season where we 58 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: try and make a bunch of predictions, and you know 59 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: what happens is we make them, then the season starts 60 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: and we just keep making predictions throughout the season, but 61 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: no one remembers the ones we did. So we thought 62 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: it would be fun here to look back at last 63 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: year's those preseason shows and draft our best and our 64 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: worst NBA predictions from last season. How much work did 65 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: you put into this bad? Did you watch all of 66 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: them or listen to all of them? 67 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 4: I went back and I watched all five of our 68 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: burning questions previous from last year. I'll admit it. I 69 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: watched it in two X speed. I didn't want to 70 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 4: relive it again, skeets, because for as many positive moments 71 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 4: as there are, there are some humiliating moments as well. Yeah, 72 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: that's that'll be the best part. 73 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. We'll save that for the second part 74 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: of the show when we draft our worst predictions. But 75 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: we did get some things right. That's right, And we're 76 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: going to do a draft here. We're actually gonna have 77 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: three picks each and you don't have to pick your own, 78 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: by the way, like you might have heard something that 79 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: task said on a particular question and he knocked it 80 00:03:58,400 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: out of the park. You can feel free to draft 81 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: or of course myself or yourself. So you get us started. 82 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: You get the first pick when it comes to drafting 83 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: our best NBA predictions from last season. What do you got? 84 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 4: Is this a first pick? Like an NBA draft? I 85 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: want to take the absolute best take or should I 86 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 4: be building to like when I get to my third 87 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 4: round pick? Wow, what a prediction? What a prediction. That's 88 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 4: a tough call. I'll start with a big one. Here, 89 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: Tass was the only one to get MVP right. 90 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: That's a good one. 91 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: That's a good one. Yeah, call Joel Embiid and if 92 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken, he picked Nikola Jokic to win his 93 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 4: second of two MVPs like the previous season in our 94 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 4: twenty one twenty two previews as well. So a two 95 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 4: year streak for tasks that's tough to do. I'm on 96 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 4: a I don't know, lifelong streak of botching my MVP calls. 97 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: But I went with Luca, you went with Giannis, and 98 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: Tass said it's Inbiid's time to win this one. Here 99 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 4: it was maybe looking shaky through March, but then Yoker 100 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 4: said I don't want a third MVP helped them, and 101 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: Embiid said, I definitely want a first MVP. He ended 102 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 4: up taking it, and Tess is the one who was right. 103 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 2: He nailed it for two consecutive years, though within one 104 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: of the shows. I think this was maybe the second 105 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: show of those burning questions the series. 106 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 4: There. 107 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 2: Test did say after he picked and beat, he said, 108 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: fade me, There's no way I can pick it right 109 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: two years in a row. So even he was like, 110 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: I mean, one of the odds on here. They got 111 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 2: this right after having Yo kitsch o the year before. 112 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 2: But yeah, he nailed it. I have it in my 113 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: notes as well. You had Luca. I loved your reasoning 114 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: for Luca. You were like, he was looking cut. Remember 115 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: that whole storyline. Oh my god, Luca looks so good, 116 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: He's coming into shape. Watch out. Okay, there was that, 117 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 2: but he had a new haircut as well, if I'm 118 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: not mistaken, that's right. But you also pointed out, you know, 119 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: he lost Brunson obviously going to the next thinking Okay, 120 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: well there's even you know, more of a vacuum for 121 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: of him to fill, and he would have dumb stats, 122 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 2: which he did. But yeah, the the Mavericks overall floundering 123 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: and Luca, I mean, I don't even know where he finished. 124 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: I didn't even look that up. Where did he finish 125 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: in the MVP vote? I mean assume he was top ten. 126 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 4: He must have been top ten, but I bet he 127 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 4: was outside of the top five. 128 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, because that's the fine exactly. 129 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Tatum would have been probably number four, and 130 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 4: they definitely did not make it to even the play 131 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 4: in tournament, so he wasn't getting any votes there. But yeah, 132 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 4: I'll toss to you a quick little bone here as well. 133 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: Skeets. 134 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 4: You had the Mavericks as your most overrated team heading 135 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 4: into the season. 136 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: I did. I did. I had that in my list too. 137 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: I was like, I was pretty convinced the defense was 138 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: gonna fall off and that they were gonna go the 139 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: way of the Hawks a couple of years prior where 140 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: they made that sort of surprise conference finals, fun run, 141 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: excuse me, and then sort of come back to earth. 142 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, I did have the mass as overrated. 143 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: So I got that one. 144 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm not up next year. You got the 145 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: MVP out of the way. I'm glad you went with that. 146 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: I am going to go you know what, I'm gonna 147 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: stick with tasks and you on this one. This was 148 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: sort of a joint prediction. You guys were talking up 149 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: the Nuggets as the number one seed in the West. Now, 150 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: when we asked this question, there was a debate of like, 151 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: who wins the West? What does that mean? Is it 152 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: number one overall record in the regular season, or is 153 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: it like goes on to actually win the Western Conference. 154 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: And we went back and forth on that. But you 155 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: guys were just like pointing out man Denver plus six 156 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: point fifty as a number one seed. You guys called 157 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: them one of you called them like a wins machine, 158 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: and you know that came to fruition in them going 159 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: through to win the championship and racking up the victory. 160 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it was a weird year. There wasn't like 161 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: a you know, an elite, elite, runaway sixty five win 162 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: team in really either conference, especially the West. But kudos 163 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: to you guys, So I'm gonna draft you guys being 164 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: right about the Nuggets at least getting a lot of 165 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: wins and being like one of the elite teams. 166 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think my exact quote in our very first 167 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 4: preview podcast, one hundred percent best bet on the board 168 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 4: plus six fifty Nuggets to finish with the one seed 169 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 4: in the Western Conference, and then I took the Warriors 170 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 4: to beat. 171 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: Them in the playoffs. Yeah. 172 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing with all these predictions, skeets, we're 173 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 4: hedging hard on all of them. You talk long enough, 174 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: you can play both sides every coin here, but it 175 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: felt good to at least get one thing right. In 176 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 4: the very first preview podcast, I had that on my 177 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: list as well. 178 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: Good job by you and Tess. I'm gonna give that 179 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: one to both of you. 180 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 4: Okay, you're up next for you drafted hats off to 181 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 4: use skeets hats off. See here, sweet sweet, you nailed 182 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 4: three first time all Stars. Oh. 183 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 2: I had this in my notes. 184 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, this was good. We were talking about who's gonna 185 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 4: be the first time all Stars heading into this season. 186 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 4: I said, I was marinating a medium take. We might 187 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 4: not have any first time all Stars. I think we 188 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: had four last year. You mentioned Anthony Edwards, Darren Fox, 189 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 4: and your biggest pull I thought was Tyrese Halliburton there 190 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 4: on the Pacers, a surprise team the first two thirds 191 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 4: of the season, just in time for All Stars. So 192 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 4: obviously he made it as well. And then you didn't 193 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 4: even have to mention him. Shake Gil Just Alexander made 194 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: All Star last season. After you had been saying for 195 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 4: a couple of seasons that he was gonna make it. 196 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 4: He finally did. So you nailed four first time All Stars. 197 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: I was impressed. 198 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 4: There were some more as well. I know Markinen made it, 199 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 4: some other guys, Jaron Jackson exactly, but I mean hitting 200 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 4: four of them, that's nice. 201 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: That's not bad. I laughed when you had the medium 202 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: take brewing that they were gonna be no first time 203 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: All Stars. That's actually a hot take because that's pretty rare, 204 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: very very rare, And as we just saw, we had 205 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: six new ones last year, so to have zero with 206 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: what you were predicting, I mean, that's that was That 207 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: was a region. 208 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 4: You know. 209 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: Tass had a lot of love for Anthony Edwards too. 210 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: I mean he was like he was on that one. 211 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, maybe it'll be tough with three wolves. 212 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 2: Of course Rudy doesn't make it, Cat doesn't make it, 213 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: Edwards does, but yeah, you go in with the Opher 214 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: was I almost had that down as one of my 215 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: worst predictions, but I like that you put it in there. 216 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess I also wasn't thinking about it. 217 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 4: Seems like there are twelve All Star spots per conference, 218 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 4: but there's really about fifteen once injury replacements get factored 219 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 4: in here. So yeah, big whiff from me. But you 220 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 4: hit it out of the park literally four right, that's 221 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 4: like the hitting for the cycle. 222 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: The Tyres one was my best one. I was throwing 223 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: out the idea like he might have Dejonte Murray like stats, 224 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: which got him an All Star nod. When he was 225 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: with the Spurs still, and that's what ended up happening. Now, 226 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: I will say I was completely wrong about the Pacers 227 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 2: in general. I'm sure we'll get to you later when 228 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: we talk about the worst teams in the league. Whoops, 229 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 2: whift on that one, but I'll take it. I felt 230 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: good about that also, just to speak to that point 231 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: of like, yeah, there's twelve all stars in both conference, 232 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: but not really because there's way more. Always that's why 233 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: we don't need to expand the rosters. True, we get 234 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: into that, oh this guy didn't make it, we should 235 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: expand the rosters. Oh it should be fifteen. It's like 236 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 2: we don't need to. There's always guys missing it, and 237 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: we get up into these crazy total numbers where it's 238 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: like we're naming twenty guys at the end of the 239 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: day that ultimately make it. 240 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 4: That's exactly right. The rosters are expanded. You just don't 241 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: know it at the time. 242 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: Okay, my next one here. I like this one, and 243 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 2: it's a bit of a cheat, I will admit, but 244 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: we did our classic first player to score fifty points 245 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: in a game. Now you went with Joelle and beat Technically, 246 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: it wasn't true Darius Garland did it on the same 247 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: night time zones, and I guess Garland did beat Joel Embiid, 248 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: but you called Look, you called the player, obviously the 249 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: guy that went on to win MVP. Now you also 250 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: said it was a bowl that you said opening night, 251 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: Joel Embiid's going for fifty Okay, that didn't happen. But 252 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: November thirteenth, that's a couple weeks into the start of 253 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: the season. Garland fifty one and Embiid fifty nine, so 254 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 2: almost you got to give it to Embid scoring more 255 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: than Garland in a way, Ty goes to more points 256 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: score but same night, two different games. But that's a 257 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 2: hell of a call. But let me expand on that. 258 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: Tass had Anthony Davis a solid pick. He did it 259 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: in late November, and I took Devin Booker, who did 260 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: also in late November. So it went like this, Garland, Okay, okay, 261 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: just to remind you there, you took Joel Embid, task 262 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: took Anthony Davis, I took Devin Booker November thirteenth, Garland 263 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: and Embiid three days later. Steph Curry, Okay, we missed 264 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: on that one. Late November. Devin Booker fifty one points 265 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 2: in thirty one minutes against your Bulls. Less than a 266 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: week later, Anthony Davis scores fifty five. There's a lot 267 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: of fifties, so so get this though. The next two 268 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: fifty burgers come from Embiid and Booker. Five of the 269 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: first seven fifty point games were the three guys we picked. 270 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 4: That's pretty good, actual not bad. That's not bad. I 271 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 4: know we whiffed on all of our random picks. Like, 272 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 4: who's a random guy that's gonna do it? Mine was 273 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 4: Jalen Green. I do think I saw his season high 274 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 4: live last year, but that does not count. But I 275 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 4: mean hitting what five of the first seven? Is that 276 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 4: what you said? That's yeahs doing it multiple multiple times. 277 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: But I guess one tip I would say is like 278 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: pick the best players in the league. They tend to 279 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: score fifty. 280 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 2: That's a good idea, though. I mean, if anybody out 281 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: there had predicted Garland as actually the first, that would 282 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 2: have been a hell of a pick. Yeah, random players 283 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 2: to score fifty, you said Jalen Green, he had four 284 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: games of forty plus. I mean, you're flirting with it 285 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: when you get to that, and you'll do it again 286 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: this year, task had Jordan Poole. He had forty three 287 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: and forty one, both in games in December, and I 288 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 2: really reached. I went to Desmond Bean. What do you 289 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: think Desmond Beans high was last year? 290 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: Thirty seven were very close thirty eight. 291 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he never cracked forty. 292 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 4: So I think it's unreasonable. Though he could do it. 293 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: It was pretty off. Well, it was that one. I 294 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: love that one. So we called the fifty Burgers for 295 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 2: the most part. All right, your final one here? Where 296 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: are you drafting? 297 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 4: Uh, that's a tough call, but I'm gonna I'm gonna 298 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 4: be congratulatory to myself here. Sure. I called two of 299 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 4: the category leaders heading into the season. I said Demonta 300 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: Sabonis was going to lead the league in rebounds. 301 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: He did. 302 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 4: And I thought said James Harden was going to lead 303 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 4: the league in assists. He did. I also said Zion 304 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 4: would lead the league in scoring because I was riding 305 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 4: the lefty wave. He finished twelfth in the league in scoring, 306 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: but still twenty six per game. Pretty solid. If he 307 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 4: would have been in the thirties, I would have even 308 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 4: it would have felt even better here. But you know, 309 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 4: I think going into the season, if you can pick 310 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 4: two out of three category winners. That's pretty solid. 311 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: You didn't give us the steels leaders or blocks leaders 312 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: or defense. 313 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I'm mean, I'm. 314 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,599 Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, that's a good call. You had Harden Sabonis. 315 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: That's really nice. And then yeah, there was a lot 316 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: of on love or anticipation of what he keptated. I mean, 317 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: hast talked him up a lot in those preseason shows 318 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 2: and obviously just didn't play a lot. Good call by you, man, 319 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: got your eyes on who's going to do it this year? 320 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: Without tipping your hand, how much work do you put 321 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: into this car? The numbers? 322 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 4: I look at the previous season leaders, and then I 323 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 4: picked the guy who was third. That's basically how it 324 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: goes like. He's probably gonna jump up a little bit here. 325 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 4: So who was third in the league in rebounding? Maybe 326 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 4: Jokic will win the league's rebounding title. I haven't thought 327 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 4: about it yet. 328 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: All right, My final one for best predictions, this is 329 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: sort of an all encompassing one, but I guess if 330 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: I had to get specific, I would talk about when 331 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: we were asked favorite under the radar offseason move, and 332 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: I went with Kevin Herder time going to the Kings. 333 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: That ended up being great. Seventy five games started, fifteen 334 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: points per game, forty percent from deep, and we had 335 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: a big debate how we felt about him wearing a headband. 336 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: We might have to do the same thing with Tyler 337 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: Herro apparently coming up this season. But there was a 338 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: live comment and I was talking up the Kings and 339 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: it just said, Skeets is a King's sicko, because I 340 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: was going, this is the year, this is when they 341 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: finally make the playoffs. It's all coming together. Mike Brown, 342 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: is there, Fox going another level? You got some bonus, 343 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: you got these pieces, They've added some shooting, and it 344 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: actually worked out. So I have to take a small 345 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: victory lap on being right about the Sacramento Kings. 346 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 4: Even going back to our over Under podcast, we were 347 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 4: high on the Kings hitting the over to the point 348 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 4: where we talked up the King so much in the 349 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 4: preview podcast that we're like, this is we're maybe going 350 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 4: overboard here. Yeah, we kind of all undersold it really 351 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 4: considering the season that the Kings had, but I thought 352 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 4: that in general, you nailed the Kings, and we as 353 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 4: a whole nailed the Kings. We'd just thought they were 354 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 4: going to be better than anticipated last year, and I 355 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 4: thought we got a pretty solid read on the seventy 356 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 4: six ers as well. Yeah, we hit the nail on 357 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 4: the head within beads score and fifty points. Task had 358 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 4: them for MVP. I had Doc Rivers on the hot 359 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 4: seat as a coach, but not until after a postseason failure. 360 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 4: We thought they'd be a great regular season team and 361 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 4: then fall short in the playoffs. That's exactly what happened. 362 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 4: So one Eastern Conference team, one Western Conference team that 363 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: we actually had a good read on. 364 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about the King so much in these 365 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: preseason shows that at one point you said, quote, we 366 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: got to chill out. You were like, oh, okay, man, 367 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: we are two in on the Sacramento Kings. Here's a 368 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: spoiler for our upcoming you know, preseason prediction pots. I'm 369 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: doubling down. 370 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 4: I'll do it again. 371 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: I'm doing it again running back. Maybe everybody's sleeping on 372 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: the Kings again. I absolutely love it. I'm going full 373 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: Kang's sick of mode for the second year in a row. Okay, 374 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: love that one. I guess it's up to me here 375 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: with the with the final pick. Oh, there are a 376 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: couple like smaller ones tasks. Dark horse pick for most 377 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: improved was Lowry markining. 378 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: That was my dark horse pick for most improved. 379 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I have it done as task it could be 380 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: all right correctly. Wow, well that's a good one. I 381 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: mean you had so you had Tyrese Maxey. 382 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: I had MAXI. But then you said who's your dark 383 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: horses and I said marketing. 384 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, my bad. So test had Kate Cunningham. Okay, 385 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: that makes more sense, So that's good. I did call 386 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: Mel Brogden winning six Man of the Year. 387 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: Yep. 388 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: So we got that one right. But I'm gonna go 389 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: with the coaches win coaches on the hot seat. You 390 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: already slipped it in there because you were all over 391 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: the Doc Rivers part of like he won't be fired 392 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: during the regular season. They will flame out in the 393 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: playoffs and then he will be gone. And I agreed 394 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: with you on that one. But we also had Nash 395 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: and Nate McMillan. We did have TIBs. I gotta be honest, 396 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 2: we had TIBs in there as well. We thought if 397 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: they get off to a British start, maybe TIBs was gone. 398 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: So he of course was okay, but we said if 399 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: Nash and the Nets struggled to start Nate McMillan and 400 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: the Hawks, they're gonna be gone. The Nets. They start 401 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: two and five, Nash can't check the Hawks. They had 402 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 2: the weirdest season of all time. They go twenty nine 403 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: and thirty and finally decide to move off of Nate McMillan. 404 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: He's fired in February, and then Doc as we talked about, Uh, 405 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: totally good in the regular season, and then the playoffs 406 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: he's canned after they lose. So not not bad there 407 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: were you had TIBs as well. For some reason, we 408 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: were like, I guess the Knicks maybe we had. 409 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 4: A disappointing playoffs this season prior right like they'd had 410 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 4: the great run then they had a bad on But 411 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 4: I don't They definitely turned things around, kind of like 412 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: in January when they made changes to uh, their line 413 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 4: up in their rotation. But yeah, we were definitely I 414 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 4: and Tommy but everything else. I'm pretty impressed. Did anybody else? 415 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 4: Are those the only three coaches that were fired last year? 416 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: Put me on the spot there. 417 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 4: I don't know, I mean boontonholes are at the end 418 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 4: of the year. Yeah, Yeah, we're definitely high on the 419 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 4: Bucks coming into last season. Maybe that's it off the 420 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 4: top of my head. 421 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody let us know in the stream team. So okay, 422 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: those are our best prediction. Not a bad little draft there. 423 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: As we just went over, we got some things right. 424 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: Did we have to Did we have to massage them 425 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: a little bit at times? Sure, because like you said, 426 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: it's uh you, I don't even do it purposely, but 427 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: you just end up hedging on a lot of this 428 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 2: stuff when you do all these predictions. But not bad. 429 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna take a quick break and when we come back. Really, 430 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: what anybody wants to hear us talk about is our 431 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 2: worst predictions from battle season. Oh there's some brutal ones. 432 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. Yeah, JD was throwing that out there. 433 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 2: A right formal Fridays, let's put on full on suits 434 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: and nice shoes. 435 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 3: Hi wow, Oh, I don't think I'll bother with the 436 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: shoes or the pants. 437 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: Actually, so you just want to wear a dress shirt 438 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: to tie and a nice jacket. 439 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: I want to class the place up, you know, shut 440 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 3: it up. Classic Factory should be classy at least one 441 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 3: day of the week. Maybe pop some bubbly. I don't 442 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: know so formal. Some can peys. 443 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm in hopefully sends us some nice suits to 444 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: make it a reality. Okay, we've done our best predictions 445 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: from last season. Not bad, i'd say overall, but TK 446 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 2: you said off the top man, we had some stinkers. 447 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: Why do you just keep going first here in our draft? 448 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: What it's your first pick? When it comes to our 449 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: worst NBA prediction from last season, We've. 450 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 4: Touched on it a little, skeets, but I got to 451 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 4: take a massive l here for my award winners. My 452 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 4: award winners in general were terrible. I did get Palo 453 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 4: Boncaro Rookie of the Year, easy one. I think that 454 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 4: was the number one pick. We all picked him. He 455 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 4: was the favorite heading in. That was a pretty obvious one. 456 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 4: Like I said, I mentioned marketing In as a dark 457 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 4: horse for mi IP, but I was really going Maxi. 458 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 4: He didn't do it. But my other three picks were brutal. 459 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 4: Rudy Gobert Defensive Player of the Year. Nope, not even close, 460 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 4: not even really mentioned when we're talking about it. But 461 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 4: I wasn't alone on that one. I picked Spencer Dinwiddie 462 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 4: to win sixth Man of the Year. Saw that I 463 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: started every game he played for the Mavericks fifty three 464 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 4: out of fifty three games as the start. 465 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 2: That's a problem to a world. 466 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 4: That was ridiculous. He wasn't even like the favorite on 467 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 4: his team Christian wood was. I was like, no, there's 468 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 4: another Maverick, like like, they're gonna send him to the bench. 469 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 4: And then he went six Man of the Year. What 470 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 4: a ridiculous one. And then of course, uh, Luca is 471 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 4: my MVP pick. I think I picked him three straight years. 472 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 4: And over the summer I was like, I'm not doing it, man, 473 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 4: there's no way I'm getting fooled again. Season comes over. 474 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 4: He's looking tan, he's got a fresh cut. Oh skeets, 475 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 4: he's been playing all ye you're in your old basket. 476 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 4: This is a new year for the Mavericks. It was 477 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 4: not a new year for the Mavericks. Seriously, three years 478 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 4: in a row, I think, so at least two years. 479 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: I'll do it. Yess are crazy. He's got to get 480 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 4: one some time. But man, I couldn't have been further 481 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 4: off on this. Spencer did Woodie. I was cracking up 482 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 4: what I saw. I was like, what are you thinking man, Yeah, 483 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 4: absolute clown. 484 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: I'll double down with you, especially a defensive Player of 485 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: the Year. I remember sitting here going, there's only five 486 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 2: realistic winners. Like I'm saying it with such conviction. I'm like, 487 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 2: only Giannis could win it, only Bam could win it, 488 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 2: only Embiid could win it, only Rudy could win it, 489 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: and only Draymond win it. You have to pick from 490 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: one of those five guys, uh, which we all did. Okay, 491 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 2: we all picked from that pool, and of course Jaron 492 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 2: Jackson Junior went so yeah, yeah, was off that one. 493 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: The Rudy one was interesting because you were like, we 494 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: were like, well, he's going to improve the defense. I mean, 495 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: he's obviously a great elite center at protecting the rim. 496 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: So like, if they just improve on that end, which 497 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: we think they will quite drastically, he'll be on the 498 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: running again. He'll win another one. Minnesota only improved from 499 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: thirteenth to tenth in defensive rating, I mean a slight increase, 500 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: but not what we thought. We thought they'd be top five, 501 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 2: top three, Yeah. 502 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 4: We thought they would be a lot better. Yeah, But 503 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 4: I think if how would this work if you went 504 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 4: back in the past and told us how the season 505 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 4: played out and the Timberwolves finished top ten in defense, 506 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 4: we probably still would have went in on Gobert. We're 507 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 4: like ten, that's quite an improvement. Thirteen to ten is 508 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 4: not a huge improvement, but top ten sounds good. We 509 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 4: were talking up the narrative of everything, and like you're saying, 510 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 4: Jeron Jackson junior name not even mentioned, like as a 511 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 4: bone throw from the stream team. 512 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: A lot of the issues, like the guy can never 513 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 2: stay on the court, I mean because of either injury 514 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: or because he just fouls out all the time or 515 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: it gets himself in foul trouble. But yeah, him and 516 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: the Grizzlies had a great year and he was a 517 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: deserving winner. So yeah, we we whiffed on that one. 518 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: That was a big oversight, not even mentioning like you said, 519 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: triple J there for dpoy. All right, I'll go first 520 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: with this one. My first pick, I should say, in 521 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: the worst predictions that we made all of us, which 522 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: team will finish with the worst record everybody? Tass actually 523 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: had the Pacers, so he went with them, and I 524 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: was agreeing. I remember I was like, it's either pacers 525 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: or jazz pacers. Are jazz pacers they finished thirty five 526 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: and forty seven, seven teams with the worst record, so 527 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 2: they were not all that bad. I had the Jazz, 528 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 2: like I said, pretty similar record, thirty seven and forty five, 529 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: even better than the Pacers. I thought they were gonna 530 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: be absolutely garbage. Thought they were gonna trade everyone, which 531 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: they sort of did in the end anyway, and it 532 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 2: didn't really matter. Larry Marketing incredible that. You know, there's 533 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: just the job they did there shocked me. And then Trey, 534 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 2: you at even worse than Pacers and Jazz with the 535 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: worst record. My man TK goes with the Thunder and 536 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 2: your reasoning. They're gonna push all in for Victor wemenyama 537 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: Oka see a very respectable forty and forty two, like 538 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 2: a really good year. And now now, I wait, do 539 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: you see us getting into the start of this season. 540 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of talk about like how 541 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: good they could be. Maybe they're like a top five, 542 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 2: top four team in the West. But yeah, Pacers, Jazz 543 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: and Thunder for the worst record, we we botched that one. 544 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 4: They were like the best stories of last season inspired 545 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 4: them from worst record to best story in the league. 546 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 4: But yeah, coming into last season, chat Holme Grinn. We 547 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 4: knew he was gonna be out for the thunder shake 548 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 4: Gil just Alexander had maybe sprained an ankle right before 549 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 4: training camps started. They had shut him down midway through 550 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 4: the season the previous two years. I was like, it's 551 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 4: gonna happen again. That's just a thunder style here. They're 552 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 4: gonna go for VIC. They didn't go for VIC. They 553 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 4: had a great year. 554 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, we were just straight up wrong on that one. 555 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: I guess. Look, I threw a wild card worst team 556 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 2: in the mix. At the end, I said the Hornets, 557 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: the Hornets are going to be bad. They were. I 558 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: remember we pounded the under on there over under. They 559 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: finished twenty seven and fifty five, and they were bad 560 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: and got the number two pick. And we'll see if 561 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: they get any better with mister Beast feastables. 562 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, Chest getting a jersey sponsor. That's amazing. 563 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, mister beasts, come on, no dunks, let's talk hoops. 564 00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: I didn't even realize he was the best. 565 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 4: Maybe just advertising. 566 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: No, I think he is who he said something like 567 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 2: his you know, his hometown team or Charlotte. I guess 568 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 2: maybe that's where he's from. Or I don't know if 569 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 2: that's where he lives, okay, okay, or is that the 570 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: latest room that he's locked himself in or one hundred 571 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 2: people in. I'm not sure. Anyway, we were wrong about 572 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 2: that one. What do you got next? 573 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 4: Okay? Uh hm, I don't know if I want to 574 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 4: fire this bullet right away, Skeets, but I'm gonna do it. 575 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 4: Our finals picks were all wrong. Yeah, they were all wrong. 576 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 4: Like I said, we were all high on the Bucks. 577 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 4: We all took the Bucks to win the finals last year. 578 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 4: They didn't make it out of the first round. I 579 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 4: had Bucks over Warriors, task had Bucks over Clippers, and Skeets, 580 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 4: you were the closest. You had the Bucks over the Nuggets. Yeah. 581 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 4: But yeah, you know the Bucks. They had won a 582 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 4: championship a couple of years prior. We knew that Chris 583 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 4: Middleton had been injured in the previous playoffs. He was 584 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 4: coming back. They had the continuity. They were just running 585 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 4: it back. They were good during the regular season. You know, 586 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 4: they finished with the best record in the Eastern Conference. 587 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 4: Easy to forget now, and we just thought it would 588 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: kind of be Bucks time all over again. Uh. It 589 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 4: was not the case. Then they had an embarrassing postseason. 590 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: NBA Finals prediction as a question in these shows is 591 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: always my least favorite question we have. It's so I mean, 592 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: it's just so silly. So much can change. Uh, And 593 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, who was good last year and who's 594 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 2: still got a good team? And I'll go with them? Yeah, 595 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: I mean I felt good about having the Nuggets at 596 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: least there. But yeah, we all had Giannis for finals MVP. 597 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: We all had the Bucks, like you said, and we 598 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: were all wrong. They make the second round, we look 599 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: like fools. But now they got Dami, so now they're laughing. 600 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: So will we do it again? 601 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, probably a lot of people will probably have them there. 602 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 2: They will probably have Bucks over Nuggets. That'll probably be 603 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 2: the a lot of people's prediction. 604 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 4: That might be the consensus Bucks. 605 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: I guess. All right, next one for me? Where do 606 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: I go here? I'm gonna go with surprise playoff team. 607 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 2: We were wrong a lot about this, uh Tass and myself. 608 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 2: I remember talking them up a ton, the Blazers. We 609 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 2: had the Blazers as a surprise playoff team tasks. He 610 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 2: had less conviction than I did. I was really in 611 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 2: on them. No, now I will say the Bliezers started 612 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: nineteen and seventeen, okay, and then they had a five 613 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: game losing streak and then just the you know, the 614 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: wheels fell off. This this team they were shutting down Dame. 615 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: It was you know, obviously turned into a mess. But 616 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: they got the number three pick and they get screwed. 617 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 2: But they finished thirty three and forty nine. I thought 618 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: I thought they'd be a playoff team. I thought they 619 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 2: least be in the play in and they weren't even there. 620 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: So me and Task both had that and then you, 621 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe this one when I like went back 622 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 2: and listened, you had the Wizards. The Wizards over the 623 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: Knicks or the Knicks maybe is not the crazy part 624 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: as a potential play in that was your call. I 625 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: was like, you must have been one of the only 626 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: people out there, like sort of having some faith in 627 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 2: the Washington was like Joe, like Joe House probably couldn't 628 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: even believe in the Wizards as much as you did. 629 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I love Kuzma, Yeah, yeah, I got 630 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: a soft spot for Porzingis Bradley be supposed to be 631 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 4: a player? Hey, they were only five games out of 632 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 4: the ten seed skeat's not that crazy. 633 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: Oh, actually it's is that it really only. 634 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: Five games out? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I mean thirty five 635 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 4: and forty seven, pretty far under five hundred, but still 636 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 4: competitive until the very end. 637 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 2: Feels like you were hating on the Knicks, maybe heading 638 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: into me. No, no, no, that couldn't be me saying 639 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 2: Tim's is gonna be fired, the Wizards are gonna be better. 640 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 4: I got a jover for. 641 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: The Nicks, all right, So we were wrong when it 642 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: came to a lot of those surprise playoff teams. I 643 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: also threw in the Kings obviously as one, and so 644 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: we got that one right, all right, Final one here, 645 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: final worst prediction in our draft. 646 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 4: I shouldn't be a GM because I said that Buddy Healed, 647 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 4: Miles Turner, and Jordan Clarkson would all be traded. Those 648 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 4: are the stars that are going to be traded. They 649 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 4: were in like every rumor, and then Turner got a 650 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 4: new deal, Clarkson got a new deal. Buddy Healed has 651 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,479 Speaker 4: not yet. He's still in trade rumors right now. But 652 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 4: that guy's always going to be in trade rumor. So 653 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 4: whift on those three and completely whipped on my under 654 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 4: the radar move John Walder the Clippers. I was just 655 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 4: excited to see him come back. They needed a point guard. 656 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 4: You know, he was leaving Houston after a tumultuous tenure 657 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 4: there where they basically sent him away from the team. 658 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 4: Thirty four games for John wall and he's out of 659 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 4: the league right now. Is that right? I don't think 660 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 4: he has a team really. 661 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, that's unfortunate. 662 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 4: That's too bad. 663 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: That was under the radar. 664 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 4: So he said, yeah, that was my under the radar hit. 665 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: This was under the radar that much. 666 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 1: YEA. 667 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: All right, to wrap up our worst picks here, I'm 668 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: going to draft specifically me because I really swerved on 669 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: this one. When will Lebron break the all time scoring record? 670 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 2: It was interesting to hear everybody's prediction. You had January 671 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: thirty first at Madison Square Garden in the fourth quarter. 672 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: You were getting very specific. Task went right before the 673 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: All Star break. He went February fifteenth. Now he was 674 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: really the closest, I would say in the end, and 675 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: I swerved and I said, nah, it's gonna happen after 676 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: the All Star break. I don't think he's even gonna 677 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 2: get there to the total points because he'll miss games 678 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Lebron did it on February eighth 679 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 2: at home versus the thunder so Times was a week off. 680 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you guys, were you guys split the difference? 681 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 2: We were right in predicting that Kareem Abdul Jabbar would 682 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: be there. That was the topic. Is he gonna travel raleic? 683 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: How are they gonna do that? He was there? 684 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 4: He was there. 685 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: They had that one right. So I was like, I 686 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: remember saying, nah, after the All Star break. 687 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 4: After the All Star break, did anybody predict that Thomas 688 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 4: Bryant would be posting up as Lebron took his fade away. 689 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: Give me the Ball? No, nobody mentioned that. Did you 690 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: have anything else? 691 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, here's a couple that I felt bad about. I said, 692 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 4: we'd only have forty six wedgies. Yeah, you went really 693 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 4: so pessimistic. Man, I was either gonna go sixty two 694 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 4: or forty six. That was my number. That sixty two 695 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 4: would have been awesome, But that was just because Aaron 696 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 4: Judge was sucking dingers at the time. We got the 697 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 4: fifty eight. Come on, man, forty six. Have some faith 698 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 4: in yourself. 699 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I at least went fifty JD. Went 700 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: fifty two and Tassie you know he aimed for the stars. 701 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: He won sixty. 702 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was the closest fifty. Ye, you gotta do it. 703 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: We had fifty three in the regular season, two in 704 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: the play in tournament, three in the playoffs. That's how 705 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: you get to fifty eight. 706 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 4: Not bad, Yeah, not bad, Petch. 707 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: So you know you're definitely you're tipping your hand. You're 708 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: gonna go over forty six, You're gonna probably go over fifty. 709 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 4: I was you gotta at least pick over fifty. Yeah. 710 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 4: Otherwise it's like it's like betting the under. Like I 711 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 4: remember Joe Mandy, what's a what's the bet you making? 712 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 4: When you're playing crops? It's like there's like the cum 713 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 4: line or something like that, but there's like the do 714 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 4: not come line, which is the complete opposite where you're 715 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 4: like rooting against people to fail. That's what that bet 716 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 4: feels like. If you bet, if you guess under fifty, 717 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 4: just loser mentality. And here's another couple of l's that 718 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 4: I noticed watching these back. We never did dog Fridays. 719 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 4: During the Friday episode, part five, Hazel was like wandering 720 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 4: around and we were like we were loopy from recording 721 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 4: so much, and we were like petting her, she was 722 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 4: walking through. We were showing her on camera, like we 723 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 4: just have dogs in here every Friday. 724 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: We never did it, man, how about formal dog Fridays. 725 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: Put Hazel in a suit and let her wander around. 726 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 3: I mean, why not, right, put like a little tray on. 727 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: Her back, and put the champagne on her back and 728 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: have her, you know, come around, give us a drink. 729 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: I've gotten very used to dealing with animals because now 730 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: that Matt is living with his girlfriend, when we do, 731 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 3: is this good? He's got a goddamn menagerie around him. 732 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: There's cats and dogs everywhere, So why not? 733 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: I know, Maddio's coming here to Atlanta. Yeah, and he 734 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: usually can't stay with us because he's allergic to dogs. 735 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: But he's taken all these injections and all these uh 736 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: these needles and stuff medicine. I guess, I don't know, 737 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: and he says I'm good to go, and maybe just 738 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 2: living with a dog now he's built up his immune systems. 739 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 2: Luna's pumps very cool. 740 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 4: The other thing I was disappointed at is nobody ever 741 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 4: got the name Meatball. 742 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: Say this, Yeah, well, these were some funny nicknames that 743 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 2: we were trying to force on people. That was a 744 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: question we always do, which player needs a nickname? Jalen Bunch, 745 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 2: excuse me, task went, Jalen Brunson needs to be called 746 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: the Rock. Just still really like that's good. It's good. 747 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: I know we already had the Rock Mitch Richmond, who 748 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: is not a fan of us. We'll tell that story 749 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: some other day. Trey, though, you wanted to remove the 750 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: unicorn from Kristaps Porzingis and call him high quality horse. 751 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 2: I burst out loud, rewatching it high quality horse. I 752 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: want to make this a thing like he's on a 753 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: new team. I like that he's in a big market 754 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: in Boston. Maybe he could struggle. We're calling him high 755 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,239 Speaker 2: quality horses. No, no, yeah, I love that. And then 756 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 2: I went with Scotty Barnes needing a nickname. A lot 757 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 2: of Scotti beans. Scotti too Hotty Barney, I don't know, 758 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 2: but yeah, you wanted to name someone Meatball, which no 759 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: one got. 760 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 4: Nobody got Meatball. It was considered for a Jalen Brunson 761 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 4: as well. But I agree that Rock is really good. 762 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 4: So year two, we'll see who it is. 763 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 2: Speaking of nicknames, Media Day DeAndre Ayton. Did you see 764 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: what he said? I bring dominance. My name is domin Eaton. 765 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 2: How do you feel about that as a nickname? 766 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 4: I think if he keeps saying it, it might become true skates. 767 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: That's one of those ones that sounds bad and actually 768 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 2: looks bad. I'm like, looking at it on my screen. 769 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 2: I don't even like how it looks. 770 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 4: With the capital A in the middle of it as well. Yeah, yeah, 771 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. I think you gotta wait for somebody 772 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 4: to give you that specific nickname. No hating on Dean Drayton. 773 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 2: That sounds that sort of catchy, Okay, right there? Anything 774 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 2: else from your notes? 775 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. The only other one I felt pretty good about 776 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 4: making predictions wise was I said that massive pants were 777 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 4: gonna be the biggest fashion trend of the year. I 778 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 4: think it was pretty That was a pretty accurate remember 779 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 4: like the James Harden cookie Monster Outfitty War. That to 780 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 4: me was kind of like the point of big pants. 781 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And you know, I'm getting some uh some 782 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: blowback from my from my wife when I'm putting on 783 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 2: my jeans recently, saying your jeans are too tight. It's 784 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 2: like your jeans are too tight. What you remember, because 785 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: like that was sort of the look for a while. 786 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 2: Like they don't get me wrong, They're not like super stretch. 787 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 2: I don't have Jean thought right now jag Man, Yeah, 788 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 2: slim Jean, yeah exactly. But what's happening is gained weight 789 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: all the running. Like it blows up my calves. It 790 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 2: barely squeezed through the bottom part. And I'm like, it's 791 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: like I was wearing them when we were in Italy. 792 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, God, these are tight, tight jeans. 793 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 3: What are they wearing in Italy? 794 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: Linen and linen? I'm not going I can't go that far. 795 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, I think I look. I mean, I 796 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 2: used to wear giant ass pants when I was in 797 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 2: grade eight, grade nine. Obviously that was the stoguess. We're 798 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: back to that. But I can't do that as a 799 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, I can't do that as a forty 800 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 2: three man. That feels weird. 801 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 3: I finally got my pants and they're massive. 802 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 4: Got your cargoes. 803 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 3: They finally arrived bigger than look like a goddamn skater. 804 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 3: Boy are they ridiculously big? 805 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 4: Very very cool to see? 806 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 2: All right? So anyway, what's your thoughts on gigantic pants 807 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 2: and should I try it out? I mean, you wear 808 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 2: a loose, they're not gigantic. You just wear a loose. 809 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 4: I wear a Yeah, you probably call them a relaxed fit, 810 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 4: but my standard denim. Because I was feeling like you skates. 811 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 4: It's like I just gotta keep flip flopping back and forth. 812 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 4: Skinnies and bits. Nah, get you a pair of Levi's 813 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 4: five oh ones, the original gene. That's that's the perfect cut. 814 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 4: It's a little wider than a slim league league lega, 815 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 4: but it's also not a big huge leg. 816 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 2: You just look like a normal pair. 817 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 4: Of jean always be in. 818 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 2: You're right, You're right, the classic, and then you just 819 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 2: like wear them, just wear them into the ground, never 820 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 2: wash them. Yeah you're laughing, you're laughing, all right, guys. 821 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 2: Our actual NBA season preview series that's gonna start on Monday, 822 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 2: October sixteenth. We are gonna do things a little differently. 823 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 2: We're gonna do a lot of like over unders. We're 824 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 2: gonna do every team. We'll do that and whether we 825 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 2: like the over or the under, try and give you 826 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 2: our favorite bets. If you're into that sort of thing. 827 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 2: We'll do tears we will make predictions when it comes 828 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 2: to awards and see if Dray can get one right. 829 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 2: And yeah, we'll do some of the other fun ones too, 830 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 2: because I love to have these on the record. But 831 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: let us know what you thought about us going back 832 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,919 Speaker 2: and seeing how we did. Let's wrap up this bad 833 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: boy here with some tweet of the night fun. 834 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 3: Tweet O the night. 835 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 2: Wow, it's still tweeted the night to last. Damn it. Well, 836 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 2: it's pretty obvious where I'm going. Yesterday Media Day, Jimmy 837 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 2: Butler won the internet. He shows up the Miami Heat, 838 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: have a video. Nobody does media Day like Jimmy Butler 839 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 2: does Media Day. And there he is with a brand 840 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 2: new hairstyle and which I think is getting overlooked a 841 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 2: lot because everyone's just focusing on the hair. He's got 842 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: the eyebrow piercing. He's got these lips piercings. I guess 843 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 2: there are they fake. I don't know this guy committed 844 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 2: to the bit. I have no idea. He nail's painted. 845 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right, he's got the black nail polish 846 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 2: on there. So Jerome of course had some fun with this. 847 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 2: There's emo Jimmy breaking T's already making shirts. There a 848 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 2: million tweets about it. Our guy Adam Lefko sharing this 849 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 2: tweet Emo Jimmy popping up on all NBA on T 850 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 2: and T graphics This season will be hilarious with the 851 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 2: photo of Jimmy. If you remember last year twenty twenty 852 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 2: two had the long dreads. I think even the weirder 853 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 2: party had no facial hair. That part looked so strange 854 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 2: to me. And those photos were used in you know, 855 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 2: every NBA YouTube clip, if like Jimmy had a good 856 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 2: game for the heat or you saw in the broadcast. 857 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 2: As Lefko said, so now we're gonna get emo Jimmy. 858 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 2: Nora couldn't believe it. She's like, what is he doing? 859 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 2: And I'm like, he's just like this is his Halloween, 860 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 2: this is like and he's just so committed to the bit. 861 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 2: It's like, I can't wait to see what he does 862 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 2: next year. 863 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 4: He was even more committed to the bit this time 864 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 4: around than he was last year. Last year, he just 865 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 4: showed up with the new look, knowing it was gonna 866 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 4: be used on all of his headshots for the season 867 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 4: coming this time, he was talking about being in character. 868 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 4: He came in with like an outfit that matched as well. 869 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 4: And I was listening to like every walk in video 870 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 4: of Jimmy just so closely, and he was literally playing 871 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 4: a Fallout Boys song as he walked in My crazy stuff. 872 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 4: But my question is, like, how long ago did he 873 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 4: decide on this look? Was it after the Damian Lillard 874 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 4: trade went down? Because he said when he took the podium, 875 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 4: He's like, this is my emotional state. He could have 876 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 4: just been in character then, like he did he have 877 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 4: a different idea for what his look was gonna be 878 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 4: if the Lillard trade went through and he was a 879 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 4: happy guy. I don't know, but it's gonna be wild 880 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 4: to be seeing Jimmy Butler with long hair for the 881 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 4: rest of the season. Every time they show up. You 882 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 4: can't even see one of his eyes. 883 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a good point. Yes, he had that 884 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 2: video where he was like calling out the Bucks for tampering. Yeah, 885 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 2: he looked like normal Jimmy in that video. But that 886 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 2: was not that long ago. 887 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 4: So then he does this. 888 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 2: There was a video going around like he's standing beside 889 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 2: Tyler Hero and Bam and like they cannot even take 890 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 2: him seriously and like his like, uh, you know, makeup 891 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 2: artists or hair artist is up like combing his hair, 892 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 2: like he's just standing there so stoic, like he's so 893 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 2: committed to the bit. Uh, what's he gonna do next year? 894 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 2: Is like my where my my? My mind immediately went 895 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 2: I'm like mohawk was super punk, Like I was like, 896 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:33,760 Speaker 2: we're bold. 897 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 4: What some year he's got to like shave his face 898 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 4: and shave his head look completely different. I don't like 899 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 4: when he's got the facial hair, Yeah, that looks way different, 900 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 4: Like maybe he could try them mister t mohawk or 901 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 4: something like that. But it does feel like he's going 902 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 4: to continue to do this, and I'm glad somebody finally 903 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 4: cracked the code he used to be. Somebody sent us 904 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 4: a message saying, remember when Steven Adams grew a mustache 905 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 4: as a flex for Media Day and it was like, 906 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,919 Speaker 4: this is hilarious. Jimmy has taken it to the next level, 907 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 4: and then this year to get to yet another level. 908 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 4: So I wonder if anybody will ever start joining in 909 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 4: on this trend. 910 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 2: Hey, good call on some of the guys, specially Adams 911 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 2: growing mustaches. Because I was getting into an argument with 912 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 2: Nora about that. She's like so what's he doing? And 913 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I don't know. He's just being silly 914 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 2: and he knows it'll get a reaction. Okay. She's like, well, 915 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 2: other people must have done this, and I'm like, nobody's 916 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 2: done this. She's like, in the history of basketball, nobody 917 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 2: showed up looking silly for media day. I'm like, I 918 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 2: was like, no, nobody has, Like nobody does this. Why 919 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 2: would you do that? But I had forgotten that. I mean, 920 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 2: I guess a mustache is like a lower level version 921 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 2: of this. 922 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 4: It's a lower level version of this. But then Steven 923 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 4: Adams just started having a mustard. 924 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 925 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,919 Speaker 4: So like if this becomes Jimmy's permanent look, I guess 926 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 4: it's similar. 927 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 2: I mean, this would be see this, like, if he's 928 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 2: really committed to the bit, he's got to keep this 929 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 2: for opening night or opening week. Like, play in that 930 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 2: haircut would be so funny. Like it's one thing in photos, 931 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 2: it's one thing in videos talking to whoever, like whatever 932 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 2: media personality. It would be next level. If he plays 933 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 2: with this haircut. 934 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 4: That would be next level. I don't did he even 935 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 4: play any games last year with longer I don't think 936 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 4: even in preseason. I don't think think so but smart 937 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 4: stuff by Jimmy Butler, because I think what this really 938 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 4: is is obfuscation. All the talk after Miami Heat Media 939 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 4: Day is Jimmy Butler's new look, not them striking out 940 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 4: on Damian Lillard and Drew Holliday. That's how you changed 941 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 4: the narrative, change the harative. 942 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 2: Oh whoo, man, you thought ballow Boy was good. I 943 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,879 Speaker 2: thought deathtab for Coffee was gonna change the haredive as 944 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 2: he just did. That's awesome, good stuff. Any of their 945 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 2: thoughts on media day. I mean, like I always like, 946 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 2: I'm like, it is an insane day. Like there's so 947 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 2: much silliness. It's a great dave to be on Twitter, 948 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 2: slash x whatever, because you're seeing funny photos and little 949 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 2: dumb videos they make them do. And there's a clip 950 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 2: of Damian Lillard saying O G trolled him by texting 951 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 2: him just as a joke and he was all confused. 952 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 2: But you know, at the same time, it's just a 953 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 2: lot of like, hey, we're excited about this season, said 954 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 2: about the team we got blah blah blah blah blah. 955 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 2: So you know, people just go through the motions. But 956 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 2: anything else you wanted to point out. 957 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 4: I mean, biggest story was Harden no showing. I guess 958 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 4: it was a question of if he would show up. 959 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 4: And then the seventy six ers are now off to 960 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 4: Colorado for their training camp, Like they just had media 961 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 4: Day and now they're doing training camp out there. There's 962 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 4: the big CBA clause about if he doesn't report for 963 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 4: thirty days they can keep out a free agency. Blah 964 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah. Just goes to show things are 965 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 4: still awkward. Yeah, in Philadelphia, a lot of questions still 966 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 4: to be answered there. But I did see a few 967 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 4: things that I liked in media Day. I saw Kyrie 968 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 4: Irving was talking about his new celebration the bus driver. 969 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 4: When he puts somebody on skates, he's gonna act like 970 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 4: he's putting on a seat belt, Like he's like, you 971 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 4: know how Aaron Rodgers had the discount double check. I'm 972 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 4: going just putting the kids on the bus taking them 973 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 4: to school. Okay, pretty cool. Actually, I was like, that's 974 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 4: a nice one. 975 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 2: I sort of got to see it, you know, in action, 976 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 2: but you know, I did see the clip of him 977 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 2: doing then I saw him on a camel. I forgot 978 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 2: that they were in n Abu Dhabi. Oh right, yeah, 979 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 2: I think it's MAVs and Wolves. I think over there, Yeah, okay, okay, 980 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 2: Devin Booker was wearing Chucks first picture, brand new shoes, 981 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 2: brand new shoes coming out. Drake's the only one that 982 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 2: wears them. 983 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 4: Though, weird, but also cool and very funny to see, 984 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 4: Like alongside Kevin Durant and Bradley Beal, there's a guy 985 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 4: wearing shoes that came out in the nineteenth fie Pies, 986 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 4: Chris Paul in a Warrior's jersey. Odd, odd, odd, I 987 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,760 Speaker 4: have to say. And then I just thought the Warriors 988 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 4: had a weird media day in general, like every video 989 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,240 Speaker 4: of them that they showed their like like Curry putting 990 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 4: and there's like five guys around him, Like, ah, the 991 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 4: Warriors one was crazy, man, Warriors one was crazy. But yeah, 992 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 4: what else stuck out to you? 993 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 2: Uh yo? Kids showing up like anyone actually going back 994 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 2: to a normal job, hands and she gets good tuck 995 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 2: the worst day, you know, just had a great vacation 996 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 2: and he's coming back to the office like literally, just 997 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 2: I love that. 998 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, it seemed like he was most excited to talk 999 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 4: about doing a flip like he did a flip off 1000 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 4: of a canoe or whatever over the summer. Yeah, checked 1001 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 4: this out. That was pretty sick. That was funny. 1002 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 2: And then there's a lot of like new jerseys like 1003 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,760 Speaker 2: being leaked because they're like doing photo shoots and somebody 1004 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 2: accidentally puts it on their ig, like Dennis Shrewder. I 1005 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 2: guess has these has leaked these new Gold Raptors jerseys. Yeah, 1006 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 2: and then there's a bunch of other ones. Tough to 1007 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 2: keep up, but I'm sure we'll have more content around it, 1008 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 2: at least shorts or we'll just do a podcast later 1009 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 2: this week rounding them up because they're just coming fast 1010 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 2: and furious. They're like, oh the Kings have a new one. Oh, 1011 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 2: this team's got a new one. Oh this is new one. 1012 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's really all I got. Again, it's a 1013 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 2: lot of just silly stuff. Yeah, fun quotes. I went 1014 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 2: to Hawk's media day. Everything was about playing selfless this 1015 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 2: upcoming season. Quinn Snyder was talking about defense is a decision. 1016 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 2: If you don't play defense, you're not going to play. 1017 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 2: I was kind of surprised to hear him say that 1018 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 2: he never he hadn't had a chance to put in 1019 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 2: his system at all. Last year taken over with the 1020 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 2: Hawks about halfway through, so they're expecting better things. But 1021 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 2: my favorite thing I heard was from DeAndre Hunter. Somebody 1022 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 2: asked him about like workout videos that he put out 1023 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 2: over the summer, So, so would you work on I 1024 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 2: didn't work on anything. 1025 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,479 Speaker 4: He was joking, but he's like such a low key guy. 1026 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 4: I felt like, oh, what what anything? 1027 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 2: Well, that's it. Hey, look it works for your kitchen. Yeah, 1028 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,800 Speaker 2: doesn't barely touched the ball. Just flipping horses and dancing 1029 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 2: on tables and flipping that's all I did. I'm gonna 1030 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 2: go win MVP probably all right. So yeah, Hawks thing 1031 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 2: was fine, just fine. 1032 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was cool. Guys are all in. Yeah, big 1033 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 4: year coming up, big year coming up. Everybody said to 1034 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 4: see John Collins go, but they're excited. 1035 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1036 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard him call out, uh, kind of call 1037 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 4: out the Hawks for being selfish. There's a selfish talk 1038 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:49,439 Speaker 4: around the league. Yeah. 1039 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,919 Speaker 2: The Raptors had a whole thing going on about that too. 1040 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 4: Raptors had a I would say, surprisingly contentious media day, 1041 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 4: or more contentious than you would expect. 1042 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 2: At the very least. Yeah, maybe because it was like 1043 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 2: what Massaia was saying and then Siaka being asked about 1044 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 2: those comments, and it's like getting a little defensive, but yeah, 1045 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 2: that's weird. 1046 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 4: That's hard. That's why when people are like, hopefully they 1047 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 4: get this deal done for any team, like, hopefully they 1048 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,320 Speaker 4: get this deal done before media day starts, because that 1049 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 4: starts your season off just on a really weird note. Sure, 1050 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,800 Speaker 4: and that was the case for a lot of teams, Sixers, 1051 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess the Hawks a little bit, the 1052 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 4: Raptors as well. But if you go into the season 1053 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,359 Speaker 4: and you're having to answer questions about things that went poorly, like, 1054 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 4: that's not the way to start, that's not the way 1055 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 4: to build enthusiasm for an upcoming season. 1056 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 2: Well, you're walking into the snake pit too. You got 1057 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 2: a bunch of media's reporters like chomping at the bit 1058 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 2: because they've been dying ask all these questions. They want 1059 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,479 Speaker 2: to come out guns blazon and say all right, yeah, 1060 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 2: what about this comment? What about this? And then it's like, oh, 1061 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 2: people get their backs up against the wall. Things get misinterpreted, 1062 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 2: and you're right, it can oddly like start your season 1063 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 2: for your team or your locker room poorly. But we'll 1064 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 2: see when they get onto the court. We'll call it there. Though, guys, 1065 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 2: us know your favorite media day moment. Our guy Jerome 1066 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 2: did a fun little package, a little short that we 1067 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 2: put up. Yees Soday knocked that one out of the park, 1068 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 2: so go check that out. I'm gonna be back here 1069 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 2: tomorrow in the Classic Factory at eight fifteen in the morning. 1070 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 2: You know why. Why because I'm subbing in for Tassi 1071 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 2: to talk a little baseball No Buns. Who my guy, 1072 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 2: Joel McMillan. I'm gonna try my best to fill those 1073 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 2: big cleats of tasks, but I guess we got the 1074 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,760 Speaker 2: Wildcard games starting like in mere hours here, four games 1075 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 2: on today. I think they start like that and then 1076 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,439 Speaker 2: there's like a yeah, then there's maybe a four thirty 1077 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Jay's being one of those teams. Jay, 1078 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 2: Let's go Jays, Come now, Jays. So I'll be here 1079 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 2: at eight fifteen in the morning to talk with Joel. 1080 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,439 Speaker 2: Four No Buns. That's on the Athletic Baseball Show feed Hey, 1081 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 2: swing by, support your boy. I don't really know anything 1082 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 2: about baseball, but I'm gonna watch every game today. 1083 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 4: Wow, that's it, that's literal. 1084 00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 2: You know what I think I'll have it on. 1085 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 4: That's the best to watch. Background spot put it on. 1086 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 4: Absolutely do some other work, so watch that's right, that's right. 1087 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 2: Uh. And you know Joel, well, he'll be carrying me. 1088 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,240 Speaker 2: He'll be Steph Curry, I'll be Draymond Greene. I wouldn't 1089 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 2: punch anyone over that because that's just facts. Joel will 1090 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,399 Speaker 2: be carrying me on No Bunts eight fifteen tomorrow. We'll 1091 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 2: probably be back later this week here for No Dunks 1092 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 2: with some more content. We've got No Buffs our Survivor podcast. 1093 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 2: We'll be here on Thursday afternoon. So yeah, make sure 1094 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,280 Speaker 2: you subscribe, make sure you like, tell a friend, appreciate 1095 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 2: you joining us here today. Clipper Ros, you heard it 1096 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 2: here first. 1097 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 4: Have a great time, turn up. Love you guys awesome. 1098 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. And remember all of this upcoming 1099 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 4: season's predictions will be one hundred accurate. We're not doing 1100 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 4: this podcast next year. 1101 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 2: Embrace the day, people,