Speaker 1: R and B Money.
Speaker 2: We are.
Speaker 1: Than take Alli.
Speaker 3: We are the authorities on R and B.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Tank.
Speaker 3: This is the R and B Money Podcast, the authority
Speaker 3: on all things R and B. Oh you do you do?
Speaker 3: You see the depth in my eyes as I as
Speaker 3: I look down and look up. Because your your gift
Speaker 3: and your talent and your expression, your art, it's gotta
Speaker 3: have some depth.
Speaker 1: To ladies, get your crystals out. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: You have to smell good and look good and be
Speaker 3: good every time you walk in the room.
Speaker 1: The energy must change to you. Just consume you consume.
Speaker 3: Everything because everyone's focused on you. I'm talking about a gift,
Speaker 3: talking about my sister, my loved one.
Speaker 2: We love you, yes, yeah, yes, yes, we must have
Speaker 2: come on the brown skin girls all around. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: you know, I mean it's not formal with us, but
Speaker 2: it's like we we needed to give you, you know,
Speaker 2: some formal flowers, you know what I mean, on this
Speaker 2: platform and really speak life and love and congrats to
Speaker 2: you because.
Speaker 1: You are you are amazing. You are amazing. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: are amazing. Yeah. And We're going to get.
Speaker 3: Into the the nooks and crannies of this amazing being.
Speaker 3: And you know, one thing I want to say is
Speaker 3: that like just knowing you as a creative and knowing
Speaker 3: the great work that you've done, but also knowing that
Speaker 3: you have greater work coming and to do, is like
Speaker 3: that's what gets That's what I get excited about, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying where I'm like, no, yeah, you
Speaker 3: might have heard that, but I'm telling you right now
Speaker 3: you don't know what's been read, Like you ain't.
Speaker 1: You ain't heard this yet.
Speaker 4: I feel like I've been practicing this whole time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who haven't practicing out? But all you've done?
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess you know, we've We've been talking
Speaker 4: about this lately, the songwriters, especially the females. We don't
Speaker 4: really I mean, y'all be getting to the bag. We
Speaker 4: get to a certain age and we'll be like, wait,
Speaker 4: what's happening? You know? And so it is as a
Speaker 4: it's a young boys sport. I feel in a certain
Speaker 4: way with the songwriting, just running around working for free,
Speaker 4: hoping that something lands. I've That's why I feel like
Speaker 4: I've been practicing this whole time.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, I think that, But I think it's
Speaker 3: with you know, as you speak in comparison to women
Speaker 3: and men. I think the the I think the deciding
Speaker 3: factor in that a lot of times is family, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, because when it comes when it
Speaker 3: comes to women, women are able to say, hey, man,
Speaker 3: you know this, the family thing is what I'm doing,
Speaker 3: and this now comes first. It's now comes back and
Speaker 3: speak to my own situation where you know, my wife
Speaker 3: was out dancing for everybody and being creative and doing
Speaker 3: the whole thing. And now we got one baby and
Speaker 3: she's like, Okay, I'm gonna dance a little bit, and
Speaker 3: now we got two babies. I can't dance. Oh, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? And what would she like to
Speaker 3: be out there getting to it? Yeah, I would love
Speaker 3: for her too, to back to her younger day. She
Speaker 3: could do that. But then the family thing kind of.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't even have a family yet. I'm
Speaker 4: a dog mom, but.
Speaker 1: I'm a dog mob.
Speaker 4: But I do have that sense of like things it
Speaker 4: have to pivot, you know what I mean. Like I
Speaker 4: can't be in the studio to four five o'clock in
Speaker 4: the morning every day, you know, just on a whim,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I got about four or
Speaker 4: five hours for the studio. Now you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: And we got to get to it because I have other.
Speaker 1: Things to do. Your dialup is different now too, though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I'm not doing the twelve hour sessions for
Speaker 4: free them or.
Speaker 1: Like not for fun.
Speaker 4: Now you gotta have a bag, like you want me
Speaker 4: to come and care, and like come and care on time,
Speaker 4: and I might cook you a meal. Like I've become
Speaker 4: your person, you know what I'm saying. So it's like,
Speaker 4: I'm not just writing a song. It's therapy, it's love,
Speaker 4: it's you know, I'm giving a lot of myself, a.
Speaker 1: Real creative, a real creative.
Speaker 2: No, because I'm so glad that you said it that way,
Speaker 2: because people don't look at it as that's part of
Speaker 2: the service, right are They actually actually may some of
Speaker 2: them may just take that in as you know, selfish
Speaker 2: people may just take.
Speaker 1: That in as that it's just part of the service.
Speaker 1: She was here to do this, so she did that. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. This is a different type of care.
Speaker 2: There's different type of love because the other part is,
Speaker 2: and I know this because I've known you for so long,
Speaker 2: you actually tailor make records. So it's not like, oh,
Speaker 2: here it goes forty songs I wrote over the last whatever,
Speaker 2: and you just pick one.
Speaker 4: Yes, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: You're from the school of we're gonna talk, We're gonna
Speaker 2: spend some time so that when you sing this song,
Speaker 2: you evoke a different type of emotion.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 2: You might cry because you're gonna go back to the
Speaker 2: therapy session that we had earlier today when I cooked
Speaker 2: you this meal.
Speaker 1: And now we got these hit records exactly.
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't even necessarily say they were hit records.
Speaker 4: They were great songs, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 4: I damn, I don't know if that I guess to
Speaker 4: me in my mind, you know, what is a hit?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Something that hits you in
Speaker 4: the heart, something that hits you in the soul. Like
Speaker 4: so like the hit traditionally, I don't think I've written
Speaker 4: one yet that that.
Speaker 1: You've written hits to me, to me too.
Speaker 4: Right, So yeah, but it's all spiritual, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, Like even with Beyonce, like how I got.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we just go We're gonna do
Speaker 1: someone had champagne somewhere close that we can pour.
Speaker 4: It feels it's all spiritual. Like the first time I
Speaker 4: met her, I was like, God, I need a miracle
Speaker 4: like this twenty eleven and marcella Dangerous partner hits me
Speaker 4: like you want to come and write for Beyonce? I
Speaker 4: didn't make that album. The next time I got to
Speaker 4: encounter her was at at a funeral, like randomly, and
Speaker 4: that's how I got to do Bigger and Brown Skin Girl,
Speaker 4: Like it took someone passing somebody that's very near and
Speaker 4: dear to all this Nipsey hustle rest in peace. But
Speaker 4: that's so it's all spiritual, you know what I mean. Like, so,
Speaker 4: I didn't even think she was gonna recognize me, but
Speaker 4: Evan Ross was like, hey, b you know you know
Speaker 4: Stacey birth Evan She sung at Evan Ross's birthday, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: his mom's birthday party like weeks before and it passed away,
Speaker 4: and so so I'm like, damn, I don't want to
Speaker 4: bother her, like she canna remember me? And Evan was like,
Speaker 4: you remember? Do you know?
Speaker 1: Stacy?
Speaker 4: I'm like hey girl, and she's like, oh hey, it's
Speaker 4: super sweet, and so I was like, what you working on?
Speaker 4: Da da da? I mean we was in a panic
Speaker 4: room for like forty five minutes, it felt like. And
Speaker 4: so we were talking and we were the only two
Speaker 4: women in the room, and so we were just talking
Speaker 4: about childbirth and all this stuff. I'm like, I can't
Speaker 4: wait to have a kid. I just have to find
Speaker 4: some premium sperm. And we just see premium. So we were
Speaker 4: just talking, kicking it and I'm like, so you're working
Speaker 4: on an album. She's like, yeah, I'm doing an afrobeat album.
Speaker 4: I was like, girl, you know, I'm Haitian with the sea, Like,
Speaker 4: how do I get on the album? I'll find you?
Speaker 1: And did out find you?
Speaker 3: It's a hell of a line to either be dismissive
Speaker 3: or to let you know. This is the kind of
Speaker 3: power and intent that I have. I will find you,
Speaker 3: and she found you, think me.
Speaker 1: So let's go to.
Speaker 2: You finding you, you finding you, you finding this gift?
Speaker 1: Give us little Stacy Brooklyn, New York.
Speaker 2: Oh God, as Tank would say, if somebody identified the
Speaker 2: gift or you identified as yourself, it took.
Speaker 4: I mean, so I was raised in Haiti and then
Speaker 4: came to America.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh so you were actually born in.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I was born in Brooklyn and then like
Speaker 4: a month after I was born. My mom took me
Speaker 4: back to Haiti too so she can get herself. So
Speaker 4: she was nineteen when she had me, so she went
Speaker 4: to come back to America get things together before she
Speaker 4: brought me back. So I was living with my grandma
Speaker 4: in like a one room shack, and I thought that
Speaker 4: place was just the biggest place. Yeah. And so when
Speaker 4: I came to America, I was having a hard time
Speaker 4: fitting in. I was overweight, like I had big hair
Speaker 4: that my mom didn't quite know how to put me
Speaker 4: together yet, you know what I'm saying. So I begged
Speaker 4: her to go to private school. I'm like, girl, this
Speaker 4: this public school is brutal.
Speaker 1: Give me.
Speaker 4: A different mind.
Speaker 2: You you're talking to two public school kids, we know.
Speaker 4: Skipping in their uniforms, all happy. I was like, where
Speaker 4: y'all go? We on a different bus.
Speaker 1: At this point, I'm like eight, ok. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I spent a year or two in public school,
Speaker 4: and then I begged my mom put me in private school.
Speaker 4: So in that same private school where I thought be safe,
Speaker 4: I used to pretend to pass out to leave school
Speaker 4: because the girls were very brutal. The girl these girls
Speaker 4: were like mean mean. I was like, okay, I'm getting
Speaker 4: all excited.
Speaker 1: Did you say pretend to pass out? Yeah?
Speaker 4: So I was like, am I going to do a
Speaker 4: deep dive? Am I going to do a knee and
Speaker 4: then a drop or what? Yeah? He got that crazy.
Speaker 4: So the first time it worked.
Speaker 1: I the first time it worked. Do you still breathe
Speaker 1: when you passed? No?
Speaker 4: That's why I used to fall on my face because
Speaker 4: that way you wouldn't even see if I was breathing
Speaker 4: or not, you know what I mean. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be on a ambulance. Get here, Yeah, and you
Speaker 4: hear it. I'm like, what if she's faking? What if
Speaker 4: she's said whatever? So went home. We lived in a
Speaker 4: two family houses, so the elder people downstairs knew I
Speaker 4: was upstairs. My mom went back to work, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm upstairs cooking, you know, watching TV. And I discovered
Speaker 4: biggie for the first time. And it was a video
Speaker 4: on a local access channel. Like it wasn't cable. We
Speaker 4: didn't have cable. It was just like random, if you
Speaker 4: fix the antenna a certain way, you could get your channel.
Speaker 4: So I think it was Bobby Simmon's Flavor video. And
Speaker 4: I was calling this nine hundred number that I could
Speaker 4: never get through. It was always busy because I saw
Speaker 4: Biggie for the first time and he said fat black
Speaker 4: and ugly. As ever, however, and that, however, changed my
Speaker 4: whole trajectory because I was like, he made me feel
Speaker 4: comfortable being that, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, okay, so I need to see him again.
Speaker 4: If I passed out around this time, they played it
Speaker 4: around this time, so I just kept doing it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so I could see the video and then discovered a
Speaker 4: bunch of other videos. But that's that's the first time,
Speaker 4: Like it worked. So yeah, that, however, changed my whole
Speaker 4: life actually, you know, just in.
Speaker 1: Terms of just how you thought about yourself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, fat black and ugly. However, however, stay to
Speaker 4: the thoughts of space card on the class, you.
Speaker 3: Know, and you're still eight, so you're developing a mindset
Speaker 3: and the confidence early on about you know what.
Speaker 1: Let me just be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not in school, but at home of course, of course,
Speaker 4: right there, I was still on the honor roll, still
Speaker 4: crushing it.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, not in school, still on the honor roll.
Speaker 1: Not in school.
Speaker 4: High school got better. High school is way better.
Speaker 2: That's what music does too, though, right because I'm sure
Speaker 2: when he's writing that lyric, he's not thinking that. He's
Speaker 2: not thinking about the eight year old little girl at
Speaker 2: the house that he could inspire. He's wrapping on his
Speaker 2: ship exactly, you know what I mean, and rapping about
Speaker 2: his confidence. And I think that that isn't I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's studied enough in what we do, because
Speaker 2: I will take the effects of the negative part of it,
Speaker 2: do that all the time.
Speaker 1: But him. But just like you said that, that one line, however,
Speaker 1: change game changing for a kid.
Speaker 2: We don't have a Stacey Bark if we don't have that,
Speaker 2: Can I say that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 4: Facts? And I didn't even know I was going to
Speaker 4: become an artist. I just knew this music was like
Speaker 4: saving me, you know what I mean. I was always
Speaker 4: a wordsmith. I always like write, I would journal all
Speaker 4: the time. It wasn't until I thought I was going
Speaker 4: to be an entreatment lawyer. And it wasn't until I'm
Speaker 4: a hit boy on MySpace in like two thousand and four.
Speaker 4: He I was interning a jive at the time, and
Speaker 4: he thought maybe I was an an arcus. My occupation said,
Speaker 4: I worked a job at what capacity? Who cares?
Speaker 2: Who cares you never know.
Speaker 4: And he posted something on the Kerry Hilton's page like
Speaker 4: the Clutch, like it was a big thing for me.
Speaker 4: I was like, I wanted to be part of the clutch,
Speaker 4: you know. I saw him post under Carrie's page, do
Speaker 4: you want to write to this beat? And I was like,
Speaker 4: send it to me? And then he sent me a
Speaker 4: whole pack. I was like, oh, this nigga is dumb,
Speaker 4: but this is the hip boy in Fontana House, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: This before club this, well.
Speaker 4: This is during I guess surf club was always their thing.
Speaker 4: I adapted it because I became the first, you know,
Speaker 4: female and surf club, but this was yeah, and then
Speaker 4: Chasing Cat Yeah yeah, club Gang Gang Yeah. And so
Speaker 4: he sent me a pack of beats and I was like, yoh,
Speaker 4: these are fires. So I was like, how can I
Speaker 4: I met this guy named Corey who became my artist.
Speaker 4: Mind you, I'm nineteen artists. But I would bring him
Speaker 4: up to the office and I dress him up and
Speaker 4: we'll write ship.
Speaker 1: Well, y'all would go through his fIF before y'all went
Speaker 1: up there, like yeah, this.
Speaker 4: Is what you're gonna wear and we're gonna take a
Speaker 4: meeting with Men or Mark Pitts or whoever. I thought
Speaker 4: I was gonna get him a deal with Wow. But
Speaker 4: we was writing the Hip Boys.
Speaker 1: Beat and You in New York at this point. Yeah, yeap.
Speaker 4: And so he went to five times. So he always
Speaker 4: knew how to like audio engineer, so he would engineer
Speaker 4: himself and I would just help write the songs and
Speaker 4: set up meetings and do whatever we were doing. I
Speaker 4: was nineteen at the time, nineteen twenty.
Speaker 1: This is great, this is great.
Speaker 3: Do you know at this time that you're good at
Speaker 3: it or you just you just I just I'm just
Speaker 3: having a good time.
Speaker 4: I'm really just moving forward like I had no filter.
Speaker 4: I just was fearless, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 4: mean the fear grew over time after you get in
Speaker 4: the business for really and you're like, oh, okay, I'm
Speaker 4: just I'm gonna sit it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Had you ever had that moment? Because I had that
Speaker 2: moment when I first came. I first went to LA
Speaker 2: as an adult, and I had a ten pack of
Speaker 2: songs that I had written, and I realized when I
Speaker 2: got into this studio that I couldn't fuck with them
Speaker 2: niggas I was playing the.
Speaker 1: Records from me. I was like, yeah, they like yo,
Speaker 1: you want to play something?
Speaker 4: Nope, no, I want to set it out.
Speaker 1: No. I had that.
Speaker 2: I literally had that moment where I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: I got I gotta go get to work because they're
Speaker 2: better than me, and I don't like it and I
Speaker 2: don't like that, you know what I'm saying. Like for real,
Speaker 2: I was, so, did you as a writer, did you
Speaker 2: have that moment early on?
Speaker 4: Or was it you know what? I never had. I
Speaker 4: never had that feeling. I was more like just scared
Speaker 4: of the people. Okay, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 4: my first disappointment was kind of like derailing you know
Speaker 4: what I mean a little bit when I came my
Speaker 4: first time in LA. I don't want to mention who
Speaker 4: the producer was because we were cool now and I
Speaker 4: love you, but you know you, so we he flew
Speaker 4: me out to LA to work on I Forget some
Speaker 4: Interscoe project whatever. But I was in the midst of,
Speaker 4: you know, negotiating publishing deal and he left me out
Speaker 4: in LA and I had literally dropped out of college,
Speaker 4: went to Atlanta, was on my grind and you know,
Speaker 4: trying to get a publishing deal because I didn't want
Speaker 4: to go home and be handed to my mom because
Speaker 4: she'd have been like, Okay, so bring your other back
Speaker 4: and go reregister in school. So he bought me out
Speaker 4: to LA and literally I was down to my last
Speaker 4: I didn't have money because I was, you know, fresh
Speaker 4: out of college. I use all my savings, and I
Speaker 4: didn't want to call my mom for help. I was
Speaker 4: like and they were calling me on the phone to
Speaker 4: get to get out of the hotel. They were like yeah, no, no,
Speaker 4: no you yeah. And I didn't have a ticket back.
Speaker 4: I didn't have any hotel fair and I didn't know
Speaker 4: nobody in La. It was my first time there and
Speaker 4: I'm like twenty one, twenty two at this time. And
Speaker 4: so I remember that I had a friend named Malaccu
Speaker 4: that I met in New York and he lives in LA,
Speaker 4: but I only ever saw him in New York. So
Speaker 4: I called him like, hey boo, hey boo, hey boo,
Speaker 4: I'm kind of stranded and I need a place to stay.
Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be a couple of
Speaker 4: days and turned into a whole month, and thank god, Ethiopia.
Speaker 4: She called me and was like, we're going to do
Speaker 4: the deal directly through Universal and not through this other person.
Speaker 4: And I'm so thankful for Ethiopia. I'm so sorry I
Speaker 4: took you for granted. E. I love you so much.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and that's when I met you. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: when I met you. I met you through Ethiopia.
Speaker 4: She was always a believer, and.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, she is special.
Speaker 4: I had all the people thought I was so, you know, disruptive,
Speaker 4: and I really.
Speaker 1: Was, well, You've never disrupted to me. So I didn't
Speaker 1: know any of it, you know what I mean, Like, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, after being in it for so long and then
Speaker 4: you're like, wait, so I'm running out of this advance money?
Speaker 1: Do we reup? Got that thing? Y'all call advance? Y'all
Speaker 1: got some more of that?
Speaker 4: Right? And I'm not knowing I'm at record playing Child's
Speaker 4: old studio, not knowing that I'm gonna have to pay
Speaker 4: it back. You were in there with your publish you know, studios. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so I mean I had no little advance. But then
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, put me in the London and
Speaker 4: then put me in But.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask what did she buy with her advance?
Speaker 1: Getting there? Here's the crazy part. Retails and fly ship.
Speaker 1: I never. I never knew I was.
Speaker 3: I never knew to way later till I didn't need
Speaker 3: it that you could do that with your publishing deal, right.
Speaker 3: I didn't know you could have studio, have them get
Speaker 3: you a hotel, all of these things.
Speaker 1: It was just you know, gonna be paid back. I
Speaker 1: didn't know it was.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad I didn't know it wasn't. I would
Speaker 3: have went all love it. I know what crazing you
Speaker 3: were working.
Speaker 2: You've been down at Sam's downtown, l at the Brow,
Speaker 2: y'all come on back to the studio.
Speaker 1: I'm working.
Speaker 3: It's about it a Chris Stal like people coming by
Speaker 3: to write.
Speaker 1: Did you have a placement already? I was? I did
Speaker 1: be just believing.
Speaker 4: There was a song I wrote called Yearbook, And I
Speaker 4: remember when me and Hi Boy did it. We were
Speaker 4: like because I was determined to write a song that
Speaker 4: wasn't about love, and it was literally my friend Tyrene
Speaker 4: had passed away in in a car accident and this
Speaker 4: song was dedicated to her. And Ethiop was driving it
Speaker 4: Alabama and she said that she had that song on repeat,
Speaker 4: and I was like, that was the song for her,
Speaker 4: Like she believed in me. I didn't have a placement.
Speaker 4: I mean placements came like shortly after, but I didn't
Speaker 4: have anything. She just believed.
Speaker 3: Wow, those are the days, man, Those are the days
Speaker 3: where people like come on people. People believed and they
Speaker 3: acted on it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't no analytic, no data, no data by any means.
Speaker 1: It was like you something. So first, you don't mind
Speaker 1: me asking how much you get?
Speaker 4: I had like sixty thousand. I mean that that's decent.
Speaker 2: For somebody who, yeah, he can't go nowhere else. You
Speaker 2: just get sixty thousand dollars, that's the fact. So like
Speaker 2: to give me sixty thousand, right, you're.
Speaker 1: Gonna have to start making payments on the media stays immediately. Nice,
Speaker 1: know what was your did you have? What was your
Speaker 1: m d r C?
Speaker 4: I think you know what. I don't know because I'm
Speaker 4: going on no more, but I'm still in the deal.
Speaker 4: Since seven U m PG, I think it was like
Speaker 4: a three song m d r C, which could be
Speaker 4: seventy depending on.
Speaker 1: Which three whole compositions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you in the room with mad writers.
Speaker 1: It starts with the w' not with the H.
Speaker 4: So three can turn into seventy writers one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: You know, So if you're getting fifty percent as a writer,
Speaker 4: and then there's seven other writers in there.
Speaker 1: Do the math.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna get tricky real unless you write a
Speaker 2: smash that supersedes the deal and makes the money back.
Speaker 4: Well that was Miley for me with a door here.
Speaker 1: Come on my Bangas. But about seven eight million something
Speaker 1: like that, you know.
Speaker 4: But that was the first time I was recouped out
Speaker 4: of my deal. Like that was like I was in
Speaker 4: the green.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to InSync. They got me out of mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah you hear me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one songs come in what's the nbr C?
Speaker 4: It was come in check but it was it was cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you out of that.
Speaker 2: It's called overflow. They're sending you the over Oh you
Speaker 2: have money in the Yeah, now that's great. What's your
Speaker 2: what's your first placement?
Speaker 1: Do you remember it?
Speaker 4: It was Sierra but it was on No, it was
Speaker 4: Sierra and but she put it on It was a
Speaker 4: song called when I, but she put it on her
Speaker 4: deluxe albums. I didn't really count it count that. That
Speaker 4: still counts, but then it was Brittany serious.
Speaker 3: It counts, but in publishing terms it didn't back then,
Speaker 3: counting the street stuff, count the streets.
Speaker 1: What if you do? I wrote, I wrote up.
Speaker 4: It's on the left.
Speaker 1: I ain't telling nobody all that. Listen, I'm on that
Speaker 1: out if you see right here in Target until they
Speaker 1: start asking and then you're like, yeah, it was the
Speaker 1: Targets coming. It ain't no, no, you gotta go to
Speaker 1: me like that time the Target.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, tanged me like that one time I had
Speaker 2: a feature on a Target edition.
Speaker 3: That's how you feel. I saw most of my records
Speaker 3: at Target. So that's the one I wanted to ask
Speaker 3: me about that song? Come on, shut off to my way.
Speaker 3: That's the one I want to I'm gonna put you
Speaker 3: with most of my fans. Target, Bonus, Target.
Speaker 4: Don't.
Speaker 1: Man, what what? Yeah? We now we found Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: we sound like that. We we were.
Speaker 3: We were there at a time where I would go
Speaker 3: to the military base you know what I'm saying and
Speaker 3: set up and hundreds of people would come in and
Speaker 3: I would sit down and I would sign their CD
Speaker 3: and give them a hug and crack jokes.
Speaker 1: And like that was My cousin Yuan said, you wasn't there,
Speaker 1: a big baby, I'm not old.
Speaker 5: You just wasn't there.
Speaker 4: Wasn't there you know some of like the gen Zs
Speaker 4: they like all that, and like they're collecting tape.
Speaker 1: Vinyl.
Speaker 2: Vinyl is out here selling right now in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: niggas is selling vinyl.
Speaker 4: I trump like, all we have is this somebody's playlist
Speaker 4: And point zero zero nine cent for stream a single
Speaker 4: and it was like you got the single of the
Speaker 4: acapella the instrumental and you had to pay for that.
Speaker 1: And I think that again going back to it, just
Speaker 1: the experience with people.
Speaker 3: Just going with that door to door, like like I
Speaker 3: get it, we can connect to them without having to
Speaker 3: do all that. But why not this just be an
Speaker 3: addition to still doing the really cool things, cool groundwork
Speaker 3: like nothing. I'm gonna tell you right now, there is
Speaker 3: no Tank without a promo tour of over forty dates.
Speaker 3: There wouldn't be me, Me going down to Chattanooga, in
Speaker 3: Charleston and and and all these and Gainesville and all
Speaker 3: these different places that needed to see me before they
Speaker 3: would make a decision on if they were going to
Speaker 3: play my record or not.
Speaker 1: We need to see the boy, shut him down, shut
Speaker 1: him down.
Speaker 4: How many numbers have got all right? I mean, even
Speaker 4: if it's some bullshit. They can play it because data
Speaker 4: and analytics, and the data and analytics didn't exist. It
Speaker 4: was like real persons.
Speaker 1: They've turned the music business into baseball. Yeah, because that's
Speaker 1: literally what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's the first place that I remember years ago, like
Speaker 2: watching I Forgot. I think it was the Boston Red
Speaker 2: Sox at the time, and it was like this young
Speaker 2: I can't think of the guy's name, but he was
Speaker 2: like the youngest general manager, and his whole shit was
Speaker 2: about analytics, how many times this and how many times that,
Speaker 2: and not really gauging the player in a sense, right,
Speaker 2: just looking at the numbers. And I think that's what
Speaker 2: we've become in music now, where they just gauge the numbers.
Speaker 2: They're not looking at the player, they're not looking at
Speaker 2: the developed artists, they're not looking at the season. They're
Speaker 2: looking at the Oh these numbers say, yeah.
Speaker 4: And numbers don't lie. But at the same time, numbers
Speaker 4: do lie, but they do in a sense where.
Speaker 1: Like numbers just don't tell the whole story exactly, they
Speaker 1: don't tell the whole story ahead whether.
Speaker 4: It's terrible or amazing, either way you're going to share it.
Speaker 4: So there's no gauge of like what's I really like it? Like,
Speaker 4: did I really like it? Or did I just hear
Speaker 4: it on TikTok a bunch of times?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, are you sending to some of your friends?
Speaker 1: It's look at this bullshit?
Speaker 4: Yeah right.
Speaker 1: At what I was going to.
Speaker 2: Say about the numbers, do lie, Let's keep it a buck.
Speaker 2: Niggas got phones that are somewhere in a garage just
Speaker 2: churning numbers. So numbers do line numbers. Let's let's keep
Speaker 2: it in this R Muny podcast. I'm gonna tell this
Speaker 2: ship how I really go and how this business really is.
Speaker 2: It's phones that are going twenty four to seven thousands
Speaker 2: of them running up fake views.
Speaker 1: Like so when you look at all.
Speaker 4: Of that type like come on, man, how can we
Speaker 4: really gauge?
Speaker 3: You know how the people really care? When you go
Speaker 3: into that building and the people show up, Man, you
Speaker 3: can't make the people. You can't make the people show up,
Speaker 3: spend their harder money, get a babysitter, right yeah, and
Speaker 3: come out skip a few dinners to afford the like Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the new gauge. That's how you know the people.
Speaker 3: The people tell the story. The people they show up
Speaker 3: tell the story. Those numbers, those those are real, Those
Speaker 3: are real. So you said Brittany was the you threw Brittany.
Speaker 1: Brittany on the circuit Sierra Britney beyond say you went
Speaker 1: like Perry the ship.
Speaker 4: I think back to that practice thing. I really didn't.
Speaker 4: I wasn't. Most of everything I was doing was out
Speaker 4: of like pain and like struggle, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like there's never been like, uh, all the music I
Speaker 4: was making was out of struggle. Like even when I
Speaker 4: was writing for Rihanna, I didn't have guys to get
Speaker 4: to the studio.
Speaker 1: I was gonna let you say, Rihanna, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, studio.
Speaker 4: I didn't know how it was cheers, Cheers.
Speaker 1: Cheers, cheers to you because you wrote that and.
Speaker 4: It's not Rihanna's. So she's too far up the totem
Speaker 4: pole to even know where, like to know what's going
Speaker 4: on with the people that are helping to make her album.
Speaker 4: But that was a real thing, like you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. So it's just been like that's I say,
Speaker 4: It's all been practiced, like I'm just now getting to me.
Speaker 2: So when you get to a record like cheers, right,
Speaker 2: and like you said, you have songs on now albums.
Speaker 2: You got it, but like you got it's cracking, Like
Speaker 2: people are singing this song.
Speaker 1: How does that feel?
Speaker 4: It's it's an awesome feeling to be like I was
Speaker 4: in another country and I'm hearing cheers at the bar.
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's dope. I'll hear Miley like or I was.
Speaker 4: I didn't even know how big of a deal Brown
Speaker 4: Skin Girl was until I got to Nigeria and everywhere
Speaker 4: I go they're playing this song because it's the continent
Speaker 4: like all Brown Skin Girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jerry, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So I'm just like the flight attendant like, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 4: this is crazy. And you know I was a part
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 1: You know, do you say, hey, I wrote I wrote that.
Speaker 1: I never You've never had that moment.
Speaker 4: I never do. I just like two people watch.
Speaker 1: Tank does it all the time.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know I wrote that song?
Speaker 1: Right, well look at it? Oh you like that?
Speaker 4: You like that? I don't know something to do with that,
Speaker 4: lying with nip I do that sometimes, especially like a
Speaker 4: lot of athletes play it. I'm like, really proud of
Speaker 4: that song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, Victory lap is victory.
Speaker 4: It is He's and we did it in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 4: and then he put out the album in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 4: So when he hit me like, hey, what you're publishing
Speaker 4: and I was like, I don't even know what I
Speaker 4: did on the song. Can you send it to me?
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, that's what it became. Because I
Speaker 4: would literally just go lay mad vocals. I'm like, all right, whatever, y'all.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 4: They took that out of some take, they put that together.
Speaker 1: They just so this wasn't okay, give us that thing,
Speaker 1: come on, because it was.
Speaker 4: I just didn't mad takes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like I definitely started it like that, I remember, but
Speaker 4: all the little pieces and they put.
Speaker 1: That together the producers.
Speaker 4: Wow, So it became what it became, and yeah, amazing.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about Collide?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Slim soundtrack was so fire.
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 2: I literally remember exactly where I was the first time
Speaker 2: I heard it. I was in Las Vegas and Ethiopia.
Speaker 2: He's that motown at the time, and I had met
Speaker 2: the guys at Earth Gang and I met Tiana Major nine,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, this is incredible.
Speaker 4: It was a collaborative effort. Lena and I connected, uh
Speaker 4: and she I went to a private screening of the film.
Speaker 4: So I was like super moved by it. And Jody
Speaker 4: is my homegirl too, so it was just super moved
Speaker 4: by it. So I put together a room. It was
Speaker 4: myself Fresh Worldwide, Fresh Sonya elist myself, Dappotromero, Benny Cassette.
Speaker 1: You put a room to go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like, I like when we're doing situations like that.
Speaker 4: I liked a room full of people I love, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, and the ones that's gonna get
Speaker 4: it done. We're not gonna do seventy melodies and then
Speaker 4: be trying to know we're gonna one take Jacob.
Speaker 1: The Avengers exactly.
Speaker 4: So so that's how I came about. Oh and everything
Speaker 4: was in the room too, So it was a definite
Speaker 4: collaborative effort except for the hook. The hook I had
Speaker 4: on another song that didn't you know how you have
Speaker 4: but just it the beat got sold or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful disaster.
Speaker 4: Yeah, separate beautiful disaster. And another song called Collide.
Speaker 3: And then when we Collide Collide is such it's massive
Speaker 3: is myself and I remember when you met her, you
Speaker 3: and you met her, like.
Speaker 1: Yo, how did you not your accent? And how you man?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just I was just I was I
Speaker 3: was like fanning out over like over that song and
Speaker 3: then over her like performance.
Speaker 1: I was just like her performance. I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: she killed that song.
Speaker 4: Like at first song was demoing and and then she
Speaker 4: she's the amazing.
Speaker 3: The feeling and the spirit and the all the depth
Speaker 3: and that when we collide Jesus Rice, that's one of
Speaker 3: the one that's one of those that climax like you know,
Speaker 3: like those there are very few records that like haunt
Speaker 3: me like where I'm like, my motto is, when those
Speaker 3: songs were being created, nowhere else in the universe was
Speaker 3: there a better song being made?
Speaker 1: Speak on that.
Speaker 4: That's actually we'll say it again.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can, because a lyric like
Speaker 1: when you were.
Speaker 4: Being born, there was no greater thing being happening.
Speaker 1: Nothing else better was happening nowhere. That's the lyric. Nowhere
Speaker 1: Like that's what songs like that represent to me.
Speaker 4: That means the world coming from you, guys, honestly, you
Speaker 4: know I feel about you.
Speaker 2: I literally still play that song probably at least once
Speaker 2: a month. Wow, And it's been off for some years,
Speaker 2: a couple of.
Speaker 1: Years before the pandemic just to revisit like I used
Speaker 1: to obviously when it was I burnt it when you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: When I first hit and after I heard that, I
Speaker 2: think it was the social we were out there for
Speaker 2: the social wars. Listening to it every day, listen to
Speaker 2: it every day. Now, it's still a constant for me.
Speaker 2: That record is still a constant for me. I love
Speaker 2: that song.
Speaker 1: I love that I love that song crying. You know,
Speaker 1: we both were both cancers, were both cancer, so I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we're sensitive about our.
Speaker 4: Ship, very sensitive times a day. I mean not because
Speaker 4: I'm sad, it'd be happy to you sometimes three times.
Speaker 1: It's so funny because like I said, we both can
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't really there a male cancer, no, but I know.
Speaker 1: A lot of male cancers. Niggas be crying, you know, y'all.
Speaker 4: Y'all's emotion. Y'all are emotional, but it comes out in aggression.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. There's the cancer.
Speaker 4: It's very much. You know, I give a cry, I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'll be back. I'm gonna go cry, break, cry, break,
Speaker 4: unless it's happy tears and then I'll everybody.
Speaker 2: But there's something else I wanted to ask you because
Speaker 2: you've been you know, you've been a part of these
Speaker 2: these moments that are just so special. Being a part
Speaker 2: of a moment like Brown Skinned Girl, where Blue Ivy
Speaker 2: wins a Grammy, where the baby win.
Speaker 4: A Grammy was she was literally on my mind. Behold
Speaker 4: because so after Lemonade, like I'm thinking, okay, and then
Speaker 4: Beyonce and jay Z did this that album together, but
Speaker 4: I'm thinking post Lemonade, like what should she give? You
Speaker 4: know what I mean? And I was thinking abot Blue
Speaker 4: Ivy the whole time. So when and Bigger when it
Speaker 4: says trying to be a good wife still really hot,
Speaker 4: I can't try, but I promise you I will fight.
Speaker 1: So I fight.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about Blue Ivy, like the reason why you
Speaker 4: would stick around. I mean this cause this was before
Speaker 4: she got pregnant with the twins. But she was always
Speaker 4: on my mind, like she was the first you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So you know, Blue Ivy like my
Speaker 4: baby cousin that she don't even know. Girl, I love
Speaker 4: you to seek. So I was always thinking about her
Speaker 4: the whole time. And then she put Blue Ivy in
Speaker 4: the bigger video, put it out on my birthday, called
Speaker 4: it the gift.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: God, Like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 4: The writing be spiritual, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 4: it's not I'm not trying to right hits, Like it
Speaker 4: comes to me literally through God, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's wow. Wow.
Speaker 4: So I'm thinking about the whole picture. I'm like, how
Speaker 4: will I Siss be feeling now? Forgiveness is key because
Speaker 4: we're part of some can way bigger, you know, like
Speaker 4: you have a family with this man, Like where are
Speaker 4: you going?
Speaker 1: You know that's crazy.
Speaker 2: That's amazing records, amazing amazing records. Yeah, yeah, because you
Speaker 2: had two records on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I didn't even know that because the once I knew
Speaker 4: The Bigger was making an album, I didn't even care
Speaker 4: because Brownscan Girl was like a last minute thing, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like she was deciding whether she
Speaker 4: was keeping it or not. And then people were working
Speaker 4: on verses and she chose mine, but it wasn't the
Speaker 4: same order, so I was like, oh, she didn't keep
Speaker 4: my verse. Whatever, Bigger still the first song on the album,
Speaker 4: still whatever, you know. And then my friend Fresh was like, nah,
Speaker 4: you got to listen to the whole song. It's the
Speaker 4: third verse. She used your verse.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow, so you even know I
Speaker 1: was bigger.
Speaker 4: I was like, girl, yes they got.
Speaker 2: Because people don't understand that at a certain level of
Speaker 2: artists too. You don't leave the studio with the songs
Speaker 2: you know. You know, it's just not in the streets
Speaker 2: with a Beyonce records playing.
Speaker 1: Now, this is not how this works. And you got it?
Speaker 1: Like did you make it?
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: We will see listen and Tank just had that moment
Speaker 2: on the eleven eleven album, the Chris Brown album.
Speaker 1: We're like, did the song make it? Are we? And
Speaker 1: I listening like, wen't make it? I don't eve the
Speaker 1: song we did? I think he would have told us.
Speaker 1: He told us, He told us. And then we're listening
Speaker 1: to uh.
Speaker 3: Which which we just went number one, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: and I promise you, I didn't hear it until a
Speaker 3: week ago.
Speaker 1: No the hearing.
Speaker 3: Like, so I'm listening to the song and I'm like,
Speaker 3: why is this nigger ad living like me? At the
Speaker 3: end of the song, Oh, I did that lives? He
Speaker 3: was we just went to the studio. He's like, big bro,
Speaker 3: go do somed lips? Do it?
Speaker 1: Take her ad? Lips. He's like, and I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3: It and those those are some Oh wow, you know
Speaker 3: you just it's like you said, though, it just be
Speaker 3: you just want to be part of it, like you
Speaker 3: just want to be in it, and whatever comes of it,
Speaker 3: it just is what it is, and nine times out
Speaker 3: of ten, ten times ten it ends up blessing you in.
Speaker 4: Some way or somewhere.
Speaker 1: As Jasper would say, be useful, be useful, use be useful.
Speaker 1: I promise I'm going be useful. You let me, you
Speaker 1: let me in this door. Please, I'm gonna do something
Speaker 1: we need.
Speaker 4: I I want something to eat.
Speaker 1: What you need?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 4: Are you okay.
Speaker 1: Creating them? Traps?
Speaker 4: Girl?
Speaker 3: You trip?
Speaker 5: You gotta be loose to.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I want to ask the question ship
Speaker 3: Stacey Barth the artists which I am a fan of,
Speaker 3: I'm a champion. We we we excuse me, sorry, I
Speaker 3: do speak French. I forgot to tell you that.
Speaker 1: What what and when?
Speaker 3: Like this is like we've had this conversation like the
Speaker 3: things you write and singing, we need that from you.
Speaker 4: It's I'm I was on hole for like three years.
Speaker 4: I was signed to a situation that you know, it
Speaker 4: went I'm not gonna say I went left.
Speaker 1: But life happened and it didn't go right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm just gathering myself right now. I'm like
Speaker 4: healing and I have a whole project actually ready, but
Speaker 4: I just needed to heal before I step out in
Speaker 4: front of people again, you know. But the album is
Speaker 4: called Love Life, and it's my journey to loving life,
Speaker 4: and it's really it's really powerful. I think the women
Speaker 4: are gonna really love it. The men are going to
Speaker 4: love it too because some of the topics I'm addressing
Speaker 4: the man and the woman, the broken man and the
Speaker 4: broken woman.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm going to be ready by July. Like
Speaker 4: I'm going to drive something for my birthday.
Speaker 1: It is the month.
Speaker 4: Eighteenth actually falls on a Friday, So I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: it's perfect, yell thought, we're here to help. I'm in
Speaker 4: my I don't know how, but God will kind of
Speaker 4: space in my life. I don't know how, but I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: July July nineteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we are, we are looking today, we.
Speaker 3: Are anxiously awaiting July nineteen. We're gonna We're gonna force
Speaker 3: your hand too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just need to support. Honestly, you're going to.
Speaker 1: Force the R and B Money podcast community to force
Speaker 1: your hand. What's your Instagram?
Speaker 3: I am stay, I am Stacey bar Flood the comments
Speaker 3: with July nineteen, July nineteenth, flood them.
Speaker 2: Not not not the way y'all be attacking me. Y'all
Speaker 2: be nice. Y'all be attacking me. They they attacked me
Speaker 2: about my beat. I'm like, don't be mean.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 4: The Internet government, y'all gotta be nice. I'll be going.
Speaker 1: I actually think they're funny.
Speaker 4: I find a lot of that stuffy.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something,
Speaker 1: let me explain. Come on, tell us something.
Speaker 3: There is a hunger. You got to understand something that
Speaker 3: people that eat from what you serve.
Speaker 1: M hm hmm. Come on, preacher, pastor, do not allow
Speaker 1: them to starve to death. Don't look at me. I
Speaker 1: gave three songs. I'm about dropping another one on them.
Speaker 3: Once you allow famine in the land, oh man, then
Speaker 3: chaos ensuit.
Speaker 1: And and and one of two things are gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Come on, that's what it is. They are gonna rise
Speaker 1: up hm hmm against.
Speaker 3: The peopleeople that feed them, or they're going to go
Speaker 3: to somebody else to get fed.
Speaker 4: I feel that. But the thing about getting fed somewhere
Speaker 4: else is never going to be the.
Speaker 3: It's not about at that point, it's about survival. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and they would and they would rather be guess what
Speaker 3: they would rather be you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was both the use July ninth, take my
Speaker 1: time j Whenever I feel like.
Speaker 4: Trust me, it's not that listen, that's and get a
Speaker 4: team and like, you know, like people that really we
Speaker 4: just genuinely like one of the things one.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited.
Speaker 4: I'm ready to get back outside. Money Long invited me
Speaker 4: to well an event it was women in Hollywood, wait,
Speaker 4: black women and black women that I was so moved
Speaker 4: and inspired by everybody ever, all the women that were
Speaker 4: giving their speeches and and she invited me like it
Speaker 4: was almost like she was like, non, friend, you ain't
Speaker 4: where you're supposed to be. Come with me, and I'm
Speaker 4: I'm usually the one reaching back like carrying every Listen,
Speaker 4: you let me in the door meet and.
Speaker 2: All you know what I shout out, they are amazing,
Speaker 2: those sisters are amazing, but amazing events.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's she reads a special event.
Speaker 4: Yeah you're not. And we've known, we've been in all
Speaker 4: the same rooms writing for Rihanna and writing for whoever
Speaker 4: and whatever.
Speaker 1: And that was in the trenches together. Yeah yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 4: Probably like eighty pounds bigger her and Ester Deane would
Speaker 4: like walk with me exercising, like yeah, yeah, So it's
Speaker 4: that reach back. And I just wanted to say I
Speaker 4: love you Money, and I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 2: Oh you know how you know how we feel about money. Money,
Speaker 2: So Stacey, as we look forward to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's lie nice.
Speaker 6: Today.
Speaker 1: Lord, I don't know, but make away, absolutely make away.
Speaker 1: The Lord is going to make away over there.
Speaker 3: You've you've you've you've written a lot of jams. I'm
Speaker 3: sure you've been inspired about a lot of jams. Swell,
Speaker 3: I'm just taking my time here, taking time. Play this
Speaker 3: star to keyboarding, play it like it's expensive.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: The people want to know, they say, the music that
Speaker 3: made you feel good, the music that changed your life.
Speaker 3: They want to know you what they want to know.
Speaker 4: H top.
Speaker 6: Your top five, top Fall, your top fun RB singer okay, okay,
Speaker 6: R and B song.
Speaker 3: We've got to know you've got a shows when you
Speaker 3: got a cube.
Speaker 5: But we're looking Ford to your top four.
Speaker 4: Yes, you definitely want to tailside.
Speaker 7: Your fea is phenomenal for what the it was in
Speaker 7: the clouds today.
Speaker 1: Baby yeah yeah, come on Miami Milvin, it's him.
Speaker 4: Wow. Even when you're playing, it's phenomenal. It's crazy sore.
Speaker 1: Top five r n B.
Speaker 3: You know what, if you would like to go male
Speaker 3: and female, you can if you like to mix them
Speaker 3: up and just do a tough because it's really supposed
Speaker 3: to be just the top five, and you know, and
Speaker 3: very people come in here with take liberties. You are
Speaker 3: a person who can take liberties. You are you can,
Speaker 3: you can do what you want to do.
Speaker 4: But damn, I would have to break it down male
Speaker 4: and female and then the singer songwriters and then the
Speaker 4: singers ship, you know, because it's different if okay, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna just start off obviously, Okay, Whitney Y Beyonce.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel the theme Lauren hell oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: How many is that they're talking about? Like the rent do?
Speaker 1: There's so many things do get your rent money real quick?
Speaker 4: Can we can? We shoes?
Speaker 1: I also need some.
Speaker 4: Performers like everything every damn.
Speaker 1: Oh, but keep going. That was keep the party going,
Speaker 1: Keep going.
Speaker 4: You know, I love Indi.
Speaker 1: I re too love Indi.
Speaker 4: I her voice and her songs like she's one of
Speaker 4: the people. Like when I heard video. That's another one
Speaker 4: that changed me. Video not the aftercast by Yeah, that
Speaker 4: song changed me in eleventh grade. I was like, word
Speaker 4: she she gets that? You see me first? Can we
Speaker 4: just do female.
Speaker 1: Workout?
Speaker 4: I forgot Jillie from Philly Women that raised me? Ye
Speaker 4: mentioned all the girls? Mm hmm, Hello, I'm missing people.
Speaker 4: Damn am I missing off the top? New or.
Speaker 1: World? Crazy?
Speaker 4: Crazy crazy? Have to just be in R and B
Speaker 4: or be in a country.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, turn up.
Speaker 4: One of my I have a song with her called
Speaker 4: Naked that like she's playing guitar on like I have
Speaker 4: Shanaia mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Of course you do. Of course. Of course when I
Speaker 1: met her, I was like, oh, got it? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: name pet names forgot when you hang out with somebody
Speaker 1: long enough.
Speaker 4: It was the first day, you know, I love her,
Speaker 4: Celine Dion come on, come on, okay then, and.
Speaker 3: I'm just hyping her too, I mean, come on, you
Speaker 3: get it, Yeah, you get it. You a nickname for her?
Speaker 3: Atlanta's more sad.
Speaker 4: Or.
Speaker 1: I wasn't just in the R and B like, right, no,
Speaker 1: you can hear, you can hear your songs. More set
Speaker 1: is my god. Her vocal.
Speaker 4: Ironic, so nic.
Speaker 1: Undecided, uninvited, I'm sorry, uninvited.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something about that, boys.
Speaker 3: Jesus uninvited. That's another one of those ones where when
Speaker 3: that was being made, nothing better was being made.
Speaker 4: Fats.
Speaker 1: I listened to that every now and then just for
Speaker 1: my soul.
Speaker 4: Because her songwriting was just that's the thing. It was like,
Speaker 4: I was between hip hop, R and B and country
Speaker 4: and then you know all the pop, you know, alternative
Speaker 4: in between, like the Avril Levines and yeah, every Levine
Speaker 4: was actually the reason why I wrote Cheers because that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: yeah yeah. At the end of what was that song
Speaker 4: she did, I'm with You? That was another song I
Speaker 4: heard in the eleventh grade and I was like, oh, nah,
Speaker 4: I feel like this all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna write about this one day.
Speaker 4: No, I didn't even write. I was playing it for
Speaker 4: the runners. I was playing them all the like the
Speaker 4: the pop two thousand girls, like the Vanessa Carlton and
Speaker 4: that's what kicked it off. And yeah, and so then
Speaker 4: I played I'm with you and then they sampled that
Speaker 4: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Speaker 4: every again weekend. Yeah, that's how I went.
Speaker 1: Wow, I love story rag Story.
Speaker 4: So we're done. We're done.
Speaker 1: Okay, So the top ten no, sorry, you can messing
Speaker 1: me up the top R and B songs?
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, that's another difficult one. How does it feel.
Speaker 2: Angela's come on, We're gonna start off with Angela and
Speaker 2: rap as soon as that's how we're gonna kick this thing.
Speaker 4: What I haven't show play that way?
Speaker 1: What in that video?
Speaker 4: My tender mind was like, oh my god, if you hug.
Speaker 5: Me, no, we will never come back. The shirt will
Speaker 5: come on, yeah, come on, I brought him with me.
Speaker 4: Kenny Lattimore for you, I will That song always had
Speaker 4: me by the show call like, I love that song.
Speaker 4: Hm hmm. What's the other one? Eric about on and on?
Speaker 4: I remember I was in the fourth grade and I
Speaker 4: heard that. I was like, who is this woman? Who
Speaker 4: is she?
Speaker 1: I was?
Speaker 4: I was already burning incense and doing all the spiritual things.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know, baby, yeah, you know. It always
Speaker 4: gave a candle, It always gave an infant. But when
Speaker 4: I saw her speaking of candles, speaking of candles, y'all
Speaker 4: on the way, like.
Speaker 3: The pause for this promotional opportunity, promotional, and it smells
Speaker 3: it smells great.
Speaker 4: You want this in your marble.
Speaker 1: This is uh, this is not a lightweight cans. This
Speaker 1: is a heavyweight candle.
Speaker 3: This is the sense for me, coconut oil, No paraps, none,
Speaker 3: all proceeds.
Speaker 1: Just go to Jack and I got your commission. Baby hold.
Speaker 4: Hold Lauren Hill good Olds so simple.
Speaker 1: Yeah, make it hard, rather make it you know what.
Speaker 4: One of my favorite songs right now is made for
Speaker 4: me money long. Yeah. I mean because you know, as
Speaker 4: a songwriter, you hear a song and be like, this
Speaker 4: is one of those songs you kind of wish you wrote,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I felt like that about Callide. Oh yeah what yeah?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: John Legend Ordinary People.
Speaker 1: That was the most.
Speaker 4: Brilliant. Yes, he's a brilliant songwriter. I used to be
Speaker 4: signed him. You know that, he's literally one of my
Speaker 4: favorite Damn, I was naming all the girlies. John, my bad.
Speaker 4: Had they given me a male list, you'd have been
Speaker 4: definitely top five. But yeah, yeah, okay, Tangluke.
Speaker 1: James, Yeah, listen, I'm not upset with it.
Speaker 4: Let's get into not upset with you. You know who?
Speaker 4: I really loved to Anthony, him with him. He was
Speaker 4: literally one of my favorite voices in high school. And
Speaker 4: then I loved music, soul.
Speaker 1: Child loved music cold That's music was.
Speaker 4: I feel like that era of music, oh Maxwell, I
Speaker 4: feel like that era of music was when I really
Speaker 4: was because you know, that's when the singer songwriter was.
Speaker 4: That neo soul vibe was like singer songwriter like people
Speaker 4: was writing a you know, I really appreciate that era
Speaker 4: of music. People be trying to like not love it.
Speaker 4: I'm like that was an era like that whole Philly
Speaker 4: sound was a time.
Speaker 1: It was a feeling like I could see it. I
Speaker 1: can still see, yeah that it was the.
Speaker 4: Kidding me a monster, ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I could keep going, but we could get to
Speaker 4: the next question because we love this ship. Mm hmm,
Speaker 4: it's this there is in the phase with me.
Speaker 3: I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names. Hey,
Speaker 3: ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 1: Who you are, Who's what you did? Don't say?
Speaker 4: She saying.
Speaker 1: Hey, you showing out in the in the new acoustics.
Speaker 1: I see what you're doing these acoustics. She's giving me
Speaker 1: the energy, giving me.
Speaker 2: I feel like Stacey is the person who made up
Speaker 2: and you know, listen, they're gonna attack me for this
Speaker 2: when I.
Speaker 1: Hear this, it's giving thing that people be saying. Wait,
Speaker 1: I see No matter who says it, I'm like, oh, Stacey.
Speaker 3: B.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna give it very so bus. It always
Speaker 4: gave the community that is part of the community, which
Speaker 4: you know lgbtqu i A. They get the credit for that,
Speaker 4: but it always gave a gift with me. You've always
Speaker 4: heard me say that. But you're not one of the girls.
Speaker 1: Girls.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: Whenever I hear that term, bro, I'm like, ever somebody
Speaker 1: says that, I love.
Speaker 4: It, especially momently it, I'd be like, I love that
Speaker 4: it's giving boo. But you are so free that that
Speaker 4: it's giving.
Speaker 1: You know, I love that all those terms to be like,
Speaker 1: they just do bro.
Speaker 4: I don't part of the community. Man, Yeah, shout out
Speaker 4: to the LGBT.
Speaker 1: I mm hmm. So we're gonna get into something. I
Speaker 1: ain't saying no names. Oh yeah, very important segment, Okay,
Speaker 1: very very important. Again.
Speaker 2: You know you're gonna tell us a story funny or
Speaker 2: fucked up? Are funny and fucked up. The only rude
Speaker 2: to the game is you can't say no names.
Speaker 4: Hmm. Will Well. One time I went to a party
Speaker 4: and it was thousands of people at the party.
Speaker 1: Thousands. I mean it was.
Speaker 4: I felt like thousands of people. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 4: and sometimes I have social anxiety. I'm like, I'm I'm
Speaker 4: like an extroverted introvert. So I just I just end
Speaker 4: up in the pool. Yeah, I was the only one.
Speaker 4: I was the only one in the pool, like at
Speaker 4: it the thousands of people in there, and I was
Speaker 4: just I just felt good in the pool. I was
Speaker 4: floating on the deep end. I knew nobody was going
Speaker 4: to come and swim over there because the deep end
Speaker 4: had to be like fourteen feet. I'm like, I'm safe
Speaker 4: over here, and.
Speaker 1: But I was.
Speaker 4: I was also a little inebriated.
Speaker 1: Did you bring a swimsuit?
Speaker 4: I did? It was under it was in Miami. You
Speaker 4: I always keep a swimsuit, Okay, okay, okay, so yeah, pressure,
Speaker 4: so yeah. I'm in there for hours though, and then
Speaker 4: while I'm getting out of the pool, I'm not no. Actually,
Speaker 4: while I'm sitting at the edge, I'm noticing that people
Speaker 4: are starting to get in and I don't want to
Speaker 4: get out, so I'm like, this, let me get out.
Speaker 4: So instead of going to the shallow and I climbed
Speaker 4: my tiny ass, you know, out of the pool, and
Speaker 4: I scraped the hell out of my leg, like, but
Speaker 4: I'm not noticing it because I'm I'm still kind of
Speaker 4: slightly underwater, so the water pressure is just like, I
Speaker 4: don't notice it. And I'm a little lit too, and
Speaker 4: so I'm like, oh, give me some galls and a
Speaker 4: band aid, I'd be fine. So I'm sitting down talking
Speaker 4: to people at this point, the sun has gone down.
Speaker 4: I'm not noticing that I'm bleeding through the galls the
Speaker 4: towel and everything, and I'm just like, oh, yeah, party
Speaker 4: in the day. Then I see my homie, I get
Speaker 4: up to hug them and I literally dropped to the floor.
Speaker 4: I passed out because I had lost so much blood.
Speaker 4: And so I don't know how they got me up
Speaker 4: on that hernia. But all I heard was somebody said,
Speaker 4: get her out of here before she gets her leg
Speaker 4: gets amputated. I don't know who that was. I just
Speaker 4: heard a screeching white woman saying like something to that effect,
Speaker 4: and then I put a whole I mean, there's thousands
Speaker 4: of people there, like eir, everybody's there. So I put
Speaker 4: the sheet over my head. And I really didn't want
Speaker 4: to go to the hospital. I didn't want know whaty
Speaker 4: to call the ambulance. I wanted to act like this
Speaker 4: never happened, like it was like no, no, no, you
Speaker 4: gotta go. You're bleeding like you're bleeding, and so I
Speaker 4: had to get tense dishes. And so that's the fuck
Speaker 4: up story. I'm not going to say whose house is
Speaker 4: was it?
Speaker 1: But yeah, you had to get tense ditches. What you
Speaker 1: didn't scrape? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no wonder she said amputated, I'm like, what
Speaker 4: what's in the water?
Speaker 1: Legs is crazy?
Speaker 4: So that's the fund up story.
Speaker 3: Look at God, you still got your legs.
Speaker 1: You got your legs, and I got a leg white.
Speaker 4: Woman being comfortable wearing my legs though, like you know,
Speaker 4: I never like wore my legs out like that. I
Speaker 4: was just getting comfortable wearing my legs and then this
Speaker 4: is here you go.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no more litting the pool for you.
Speaker 4: I don't look like that no more.
Speaker 1: Yeah me neither neither that you got to be clear. Especially, yeah, yeah, especially,
Speaker 1: we love you, Stacey, and we love you.
Speaker 3: We uh we stand on you are amazing, We stand
Speaker 3: down it and that's inside and out. I appreciate we
Speaker 3: We love you as a person, We love you as
Speaker 3: a creative, We love you as as a movie maker.
Speaker 1: Now as we because that's what we do though these songs. Yeah, right, movies.
Speaker 4: I've always had that vision, like you know, like I
Speaker 4: did a little project with Hippoy and Chase that never
Speaker 4: came out. But this was before Star, this was before
Speaker 4: all that, like music incorporated with the with the film stuff.
Speaker 4: So what what's happening with music and the merge is
Speaker 4: what I'm interested in making, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's so many stories we told, and I feel like
Speaker 4: I need more than three minutes and thirty seconds to
Speaker 4: tell them, you know.
Speaker 3: And people need it. People want they want some long
Speaker 3: form content. They want it from you to do it.
Speaker 3: July nineteenth, the pressures.
Speaker 4: On, the pressures on, you'll welle'll.
Speaker 1: Show up, the show out.
Speaker 4: God.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, y'all.
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