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Speaker 2: All right, this is Podcast Nation coming to you from Indianapolis,

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Speaker 2: Indiana Combine Edition. Of course, we gotta go out with

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Speaker 2: a bang because this is the last and final episode

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Speaker 2: for you guys on Dallascowboys dot Com. Welcome in Nicole Hudgson,

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Speaker 2: Patrick no C. Walker, and the one and only.

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Speaker 3: Head coach, Brian Schottenheimer. How you doing, coach?

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Speaker 4: What's up gang? Good to be with you guys today. Hey,

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Speaker 4: you glad to have you.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: We're just gonna straight to it.

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Speaker 2: I know you have a busy schedule ahead, but you're

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Speaker 2: obviously walking into year two.

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Speaker 6: For you.

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Speaker 3: What feels different walking into year two compared to your one?

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Speaker 7: I think the understanding of how everything flows, you know,

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Speaker 7: last year I was definitely, uh, you know, what's the

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Speaker 7: preferbial saying where you're.

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Speaker 4: Drinking water out of a fire hose.

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Speaker 7: That was real, you know, from getting the job and

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Speaker 7: then trying to get the staff together. This year, you

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Speaker 7: kind of have a little bit better understand how the

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Speaker 7: schedule works and how the calendar flows. And the thing

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Speaker 7: I'm most excited about is I've.

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Speaker 4: Got the better feel for the players here.

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Speaker 7: Last year, I came here kind of coming in hot

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Speaker 7: and was figuring it out on the run. And this

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Speaker 7: year I've got a much better sense of these guys,

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Speaker 7: or at least most of them. And now after this

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Speaker 7: week here with them, I feel really good about where

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Speaker 7: I am from my understanding of.

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Speaker 5: The draft class.

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Speaker 8: Now, you're obviously a huge advocate of accountability, and you

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Speaker 8: hold yourself to the same standard. You're saying the standard

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Speaker 8: is the standard in assessing the twenty twenty five NFL season.

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Speaker 8: Bryan Schottenheimer, the head coach, Brian Schottenheimer, the offensive play caller,

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Speaker 8: what would you say is the biggest opportunity for growth

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Speaker 8: going into year two for you in Dallas?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And the number one thing we got to fix, obviously, Patrick,

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Speaker 7: is the ball. You know, we got to get the

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Speaker 7: ball protected on offense, we got to take it away

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Speaker 7: on defense.

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Speaker 4: Being minus nine is never good enough.

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Speaker 7: That's the first thing that jumps out at me as

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Speaker 7: the head coach from a play calling standpoint.

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Speaker 4: Again, we always want to evolve.

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Speaker 7: I mean, as you go into the season, you got

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Speaker 7: to study, you got a look and everybody's got, you know,

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Speaker 7: a year to look at us and what we did

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Speaker 7: offensively and how to handle our pieces and how I

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Speaker 7: kind of go through a flow.

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Speaker 4: So the scheme has to evolve, but I have to have.

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Speaker 8: To evolve as a play caller as well now to

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Speaker 8: be fair, because there are two sides to the coin.

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Speaker 8: The other side is what excites you the most about

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Speaker 8: what you saw from yourself and leading the team.

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Speaker 7: Probably that the energy never kind of never dropped, you know.

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Speaker 7: I'm an energetic guy. I like to have fun. I

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: They fire me up.

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Speaker 7: And probably that's the thing that that's what motivates you.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 7: It's what gets you up after a big win, it

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Speaker 7: gets you up after a tough loss. It's just a hey,

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Speaker 2: Something that you know, Will McLay told me when he

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Speaker 2: fun and also challenging at the same time. Learning the

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Speaker 2: different nuances of Christian Parker's defensive scheme three four moving

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Speaker 4: I think it's just the layers to it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I think when you look at it,

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Speaker 4: Not that we'll do it all year one, not that

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it would be amazing, and he's a pretty good teacher,

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Speaker 7: especially with the new side of the ball on defense.

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Speaker 7: But to hear the conversations and to hear the connection

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Speaker 2: When you're evaluating players, since we are at the combine,

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Speaker 2: got to talk combine. When you're evaluating players, what do

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Speaker 4: You know, love, of the game. It's real.

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Speaker 7: I think love of the game is something that you

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Speaker 7: can see from the film. You know, it's hard to

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Speaker 7: ask probing questions. It gives this big thing of why

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Speaker 7: they love the game. We try, but I think when

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Speaker 7: can see guys that not only how they play, but

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Speaker 7: can see you can see it in their body language.

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Speaker 5: It's real.

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Speaker 4: You can kind of feel that, man, this guy does

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Speaker 8: The off season is, as far as team building is concern,

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Speaker 8: is basically a two party equation. You have the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 8: you have free agency, and once you guys leave this

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Speaker 8: get some deals done inside and outside of the building.

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Speaker 8: Just talk about the importance of trying to make sure

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it works together, I mean it really does. You

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Speaker 7: The plan obviously for free agency was laid out before

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Speaker 7: so that's part of it. Then obviously there'll be more

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Speaker 8: And speaking to the free agency component, part of that

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Speaker 8: George Pickens.

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Speaker 5: Stephen Jones said.

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Speaker 8: More than once that you guys were quote unquote leaning

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's Steven nailed it. I mean we're

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Speaker 7: leaning that direction again. I think, you know, if that's

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Speaker 4: I think GP understands that.

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Speaker 7: What I know about GP is he loves foot But

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Speaker 7: what people don't see too is how much he loves

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Speaker 7: Dak Prescott, Ceedee Lamb. You know that's what That's what

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Speaker 7: he loves and I think that's why again we feel

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Speaker 5: A long time.

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Speaker 8: And where do you guys stand right now? And obviously

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Speaker 8: it goes without saying you want Brandon Aubrey in the

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Speaker 8: in the league, hands down, Butter is where it's at.

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Speaker 4: Extra butter, yeah, extra, But where'd.

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Speaker 5: You guys in negotiations with him?

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Speaker 8: And just you know, what would have been the positive

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Speaker 4: I think it goes back to the same thing.

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Speaker 7: You know, when you build the right culture here, the

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Speaker 7: players want to stay. The players want to be here,

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Speaker 7: and so as the negotiations in the business side of

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Speaker 7: thing for us as the Cowboys organization is knowing that,

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Speaker 7: you know, Brandon doesn't want to go anywhere.

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Speaker 4: He wants to be here.

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Speaker 7: We want Brandon here and now again we just kind

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Speaker 3: I want to get back to the offensive side of

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Speaker 2: Obviously finishing at the top of the league amongst a

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say the screen game. You know, that's

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Speaker 7: very good with the ball in their hands outside got

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Speaker 4: So I think the screen game is the first thing

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Speaker 8: You know, I'm exceedingly intrigued Shaddy with this maresly a

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Speaker 8: file situation. So this is something that Scott Simons had

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Speaker 8: told us ahead of speaking with you in your press

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Speaker 8: conference yesterday, and you solidified it. Marrisly a foul will

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Speaker 8: be moved to outside linebacker for the Dallas Cowboys. Nicole

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Speaker 8: had a great conversation with Marius yesterday and he's excited,

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Speaker 8: champing at the bit get going there. But as far

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Speaker 8: as the transition process to get him from inside linebacker

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Speaker 8: Obviously he needs to bulk up, but you know, as

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Speaker 8: far as the details go.

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Speaker 5: What does that look like?

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Speaker 8: And are you guys going to tap resources like DeMarcus

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Speaker 5: What's the process to get him what he needs to.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, what I would say first and foremost is

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Speaker 7: And again that shows you, guys, we're kind of thinking

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Speaker 2: All right, Coach, Well, we've all talked about how excited

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Speaker 1: To the Cowboys Nation podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into podcast Nation, coming to you from Indianapolis, Indiana.

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Speaker 3: Combine. Addition, Nicole Hutcheson, Patrick no C. Walker, and the.

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Speaker 14: Hey, pleasures online. This is a this is a fun

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Speaker 14: It's I get to talk with my cowboys friends.

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Speaker 6: It was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: That's why you're here. All right, let's get straight into it,

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Speaker 2: this combine. You said it's been a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Of course, what's a position that has intrigued you the most.

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Speaker 3: Since you've been here.

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Speaker 14: Well, maybe it's just recency bias because we saw him

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Speaker 6: These linebackers were so dang impressive.

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Speaker 14: The Sunny Styles, I don't I mean, I don't want

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Speaker 6: He's not making it to twelve.

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Speaker 14: I'm sorry, So I don't want to talk about him

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Speaker 14: I have him too low. I mean, I think once

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Speaker 2: Higher talking about AND i want to piggyback off of

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Speaker 14: I'd said this is an above average, class and you

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Speaker 14: Dallas, WELL i MEAN i Mentioned Jacob, rodriguez and he's

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Speaker 14: This just give me the good football, players the guys

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Speaker 6: Production give me those type of. Guys and That's Jacob.

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Speaker 6: Off SO i think That rodriguez is.

441
00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,360
Speaker 14: A GUY i keep coming back to as, MAN i

442
00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,720
Speaker 14: just this is a type of Player i'd rather have

443
00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,159
Speaker 14: on my team instead of facing him and trying to

444
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,919
Speaker 14: come up with a game plan going up against him.

445
00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,240
Speaker 8: And kind of segueing off of, That i've always been

446
00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,280
Speaker 8: intrigued with picking the brains of analysts and scouts as

447
00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,360
Speaker 8: far as when you're coming to THE nfl, combining you're

448
00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,880
Speaker 8: going to these pro, days what's your weighted scale as

449
00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,000
Speaker 8: far as drills and forty yard? Dashes and are they

450
00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,720
Speaker 8: simply enhancers for what you already know and have seen

451
00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,560
Speaker 8: in your film study and your tape study or with

452
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,320
Speaker 8: you is it a situation where if a guy unfortunately

453
00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,919
Speaker 8: bombs at the pro day or the, combine does that

454
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,360
Speaker 8: undermine the homework you've?

455
00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:08,720
Speaker 5: Done how does your skill work?

456
00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,120
Speaker 14: There it's SO i look at the testing The Combine

457
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 14: Pro day's workouts as a big cross checking exercise because

458
00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:16,879
Speaker 14: we've watched all the.

459
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 6: Tape you, know the combine should not be your first

460
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:20,080
Speaker 6: exposure to a.

461
00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 14: Player watch him as a football, player get a sense

462
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,359
Speaker 14: for what he does, best and then have expectations for

463
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,679
Speaker 14: what type of athlete he. Is so you go into the,

464
00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,640
Speaker 14: workouts going to the combine, saying, okay on, tape he's

465
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 14: a four four eight, athlete and then, okay if he

466
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 14: works out and he's right around, there that matches up

467
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,880
Speaker 14: with what he's what we put on. Tape if he's

468
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,879
Speaker 14: a lot faster or a lot, slower then you go

469
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,640
Speaker 14: back to the tape and figure it out and, say,

470
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 14: okay what maybe he was dealing with a hamstring injury

471
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,160
Speaker 14: that the three GAMES i, watched or maybe you know who.

472
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 14: Knows it's a fact finding, mission but if there's ever

473
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,360
Speaker 14: a big, discrepancy you need to figure out why instead

474
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 14: of just trusting one or the other because something's off

475
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 14: in one of those. Calculations but AND i always tell

476
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,120
Speaker 14: tell agents all the, time, like have your guys run

477
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 14: at the, combine because first of, all it's a fast

478
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 14: track out.

479
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 6: There there's a good chance your best time is going

480
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:12,679
Speaker 6: to come.

481
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,919
Speaker 14: Here and then you don't want to put all your

482
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,400
Speaker 14: eggs in one basket at the pro day where maybe

483
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 14: you're just having a bad.

484
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 6: Day you, know maybe you've got woke up with the

485
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 6: cold that. Day if you.

486
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,120
Speaker 14: Don't run the way you want to hear In, indie

487
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 14: you have that makeup at the pro day where you

488
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 14: can possibly do. Better so unless there's a legit injury

489
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 14: that keep you from working out, here and take advantage of.

490
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 6: It And i'm glad so many of the linebackers did.

491
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 6: Yesterday let's say The.

492
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 2: Cowboys now we all know that The cowboys should attack defense, early,

493
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 2: right but let's say they. Don't cowboys don't have a

494
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 2: second or third. Round let's say they just don't and

495
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 2: draft it offensive, lineman you never. Know but second, third

496
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 2: they don't have picks for those two. Rounds so what's

497
00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 2: a realistic option or for The cowboys to find a

498
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,959
Speaker 2: way to get in the second and third round and

499
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 2: position group that you're, Saying, okay they're deep enough to some.

500
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 3: Really good quality guys could fall to the second third.

501
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 5: Round at what?

502
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 6: Position let's go.

503
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,439
Speaker 14: Corner so, YEAH i, mean AND i think that with

504
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 14: two first round, picks obviously you have options where if

505
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 14: you want to move back with one of, THOSE i

506
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 14: think the bigger question would be who wants to move?

507
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 14: Up you, know do you have that trade, partners the phone?

508
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 14: Ringing are you going to get good? Value it's not

509
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 14: someone trying to just take advantage, of you, know just

510
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 14: see if you'll move back for.

511
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 6: Anything so that'll be the first.

512
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 14: Hurdle and then BUT i do think that it's corners

513
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,959
Speaker 14: a good position to bring up because it's in my,

514
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 14: OPINION i need to drop off after round. THREE i

515
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 14: think rounds, one, two, three there's some good value at the.

516
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 14: Position LIKE i Love Chris johnson From San Diego, state you,

517
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,479
Speaker 14: know the first, round you, know the Two tennessee, Kids

518
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 14: Brandon csafe From South. Carolina BUT i do think once

519
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 14: you get to round, four there's a little bit of

520
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 14: a drop off in the depth and what you can

521
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 14: expect to find atner. Back So i'd love to see

522
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 14: The cowboys move around a little. Bit and you, know

523
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,199
Speaker 14: it'd be great to come away from this draft with

524
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 14: two top twenty, picks but i'd, rather you, know if

525
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 14: you're able to turn one of those draft picks into two,

526
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 14: THREE i think you gotta jump at that.

527
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 8: Opportunity so then my question for That dane. Is let's

528
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 8: say The cowboys sticking pick at twelve and. Twenty when

529
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 8: it comes to the TRUE bpa model VERSUS bpa versus

530
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 8: need model hybrid, model where do you what do you

531
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 8: air on that? Side BECAUSE i post the same question

532
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 8: To will. McLay i posed the same question To Christian

533
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 8: Progret and it seems as if this particular, year more than,

534
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 8: any The cowboys are leaning towards TRUE. Bpa but at

535
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 8: the same, time they have so many needs on the

536
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 8: defensive side of the, ball, Right and if you're sticking and,

537
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 8: picking that means you're likely not going to have Those

538
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 8: day two, picks second, round third.

539
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 5: Round what would your approach? Be and are you still going.

540
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 8: TRUE bpa if THE bpa happens to be an offensive?

541
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 14: PLAYER i think you have to GO, Bpa like that's

542
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 14: just the right way to go about. It but you

543
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 14: have to be smart, too you, know If Jeremiah love

544
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 14: is still on the board at, twelve, like can you

545
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 14: really can you make that move if you're The?

546
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 6: Cowboys you, know like it would BE i.

547
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 14: Don't first of, ALL i don't think you will Be

548
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 14: he's one of the top three players in this, draft

549
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 14: but not everyone's gonna be on board to taking a

550
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 14: running back in the top, ten and so if just

551
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 14: in case that, happened could you Let Jeremiah love fall to?

552
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 14: THIRTEEN i don't know THAT i, could even though that's

553
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 14: not a need for this. Team so it's an interesting

554
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 14: philosophical question THAT i think every team battles. With now

555
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 14: some teams will BECAUSE i think we need to remember

556
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 14: a lot of team boards are one, hundred one hundred

557
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 14: and twenty one hundred and fifty, names, like they're not

558
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 14: the full three hundred and fifty four hundred guys that

559
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 14: are have a chance to get, Drafted so you, know

560
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 14: the first rounds really condensed with the guys that are looking,

561
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 14: at so they're already stacked their board with maybe just

562
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 14: the guys that they're looking at which fit the needs

563
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 14: that they. Have and the other thing is, too is

564
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 14: you hope that in free agency they're able to do

565
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 14: enough where there's not a clear don't go into round

566
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 14: one saying, okay we don't have our edge, rusher yet

567
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 14: we have to go edg rusher were forced to go

568
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 14: in a certain, Direction so that's the hope and free

569
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 14: agency and then that way you can go into the

570
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 14: draft being a little more open minded about you know,

571
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 14: what we really we didn't plan On francis now we

572
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 14: know what being here the right time From, miami but

573
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 14: we have such a high grade on him THAT i

574
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 14: don't think we can let him. Pass AND i think

575
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 14: that'd be an interesting fan reaction if they did win

576
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 14: offense at. Twelve but if the right player is, THERE

577
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 14: i don't think you can completely just be closed minded to.

578
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 2: That speaking of a right, player who's stock would you

579
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 2: say has kind of skyrocketed over the first couple of

580
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: days through interviews. Podiums who's someone that The cowboys should

581
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 2: keep an eye out?

582
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 14: On, WELL i, mean first, OFF i have to Mention

583
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 14: Sunny styles again just because well you, said you said the,

584
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 14: interviews and that's the thing that doesn't get talked about.

585
00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 14: Enough and like the feedback from the Scouts i've talked

586
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 14: to On Sunny styles, INTERVIEW i just, LIKE i DON'T

587
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 14: i don't, KNOW i don't have a word to describe.

588
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 6: It it's like beyond.

589
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 14: Glowing so, yeah he factory's twenty, one just turn twenty

590
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 14: one years, old six,' five two hundred and, forty pounds

591
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 14: did what he?

592
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 6: Did yesterday and. The testing, All right, i'm sorry No More,

593
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 6: sunny style but, You.

594
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 14: Know i'm interested To See caleb downs and how he

595
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 14: works out today because he's another one where talking to scouts.

596
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 14: Ask him you know who's impressed during. The Interviews sunny

597
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 14: styles is the name that always gets. Brought Up caleb

598
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 14: downs is. The OTHER and i don't another SITUATION where

599
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 14: i don't think he should be there. At twelve but

600
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 14: not every team is on board with drafting a safety

601
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 14: in the. Top ten so it's at least. A possibility

602
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 14: it's not a zero, percent chance it might be, twenty

603
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 14: percent but at least there's. A CHANCE and, I think

604
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 14: i'm you don't watch him, and, say oh that's a,

605
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 14: freak athlete AND so I.

606
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 6: Want i want to see how. WE tests i want

607
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 6: to see how.

608
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,719
Speaker 14: He moves but the real secret to what makes him

609
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 14: so specials how smart, he is how intelligent, he is

610
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 14: what he brings to, the field, the communication how he

611
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 14: gets makes. Everybody right, you know he can REALLY and i,

612
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 14: think this he's like a defensive coordinator's dream because of

613
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 14: the ways that you can deploy your coverage and disguise

614
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 14: and these, trap coverages and he's the skeleton key that

615
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 14: unlocks everything because of, the communication the way he gets

616
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 14: everything everybody lined. Up right but the interviews have been

617
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 14: fantastic and now it's kind of it's time for the Testing,

618
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 14: with DOWNS and i mean you to see how.

619
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 8: That goes so for my, Final, question dane you're making

620
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 8: this really easy for me because it Was About. Caleb

621
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 8: downs so in Speaking About, caleb downs excellent information you

622
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 8: just provided on that. Young Man If, caleb downs for,

623
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 8: whatever reason is available, at Twelve the cowboys are going

624
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 8: to have to have a conversation with themselves culturally because typically.

625
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 5: They don't go high.

626
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 8: On safeties they like to develop late round picks from

627
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 8: safeties and move them up into. Starting roles but assuming

628
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 8: They Take caleb downs, at twelve what do you see

629
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 8: from him In A christian? Parker system and what immediately

630
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 8: comes to Mind Is, Ryan, Smith Arizona.

631
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 5: Buddha baker do you see those types of traits In The? Caleb?

632
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 14: DOWNS yeah, I DO and i think that the what

633
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 14: you Love About caleb downs is he could be whatever

634
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 14: you want him. To be, you know if you want

635
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 14: him to play in, the post he can. Do that

636
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 14: you want to play a, robber role he can do

637
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 14: that play more of a nickel or, you know closer

638
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 14: to the box where he's almost an.

639
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 6: Extra linebacker he can.

640
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 14: Do that AND so i, think of, you know With

641
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 14: with parker and what he wants to be, ON defense

642
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 14: i think, you know whether you know You're running cover six,

643
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 14: or what he will always adjust to the strengths of

644
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 14: his team and really lean. Into THAT and i think

645
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 14: That's Where caleb downs can really help you be multiple

646
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 14: because WHAT'S the. Nfl about it's. About mismatches, you know

647
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 14: the offense is trying to find. The mismatch the defense

648
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 14: is trying to do. The same we talked so much

649
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 14: About Nick emmon worry and what he meant For the

650
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 14: seahawks this year and how he helped against mismatches because

651
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 14: he could be, a linebacker, a corner whatever he wanted.

652
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 14: To be downs can also be a part of. That

653
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 14: too but the thing Is with downs is he's Also Your,

654
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 14: devin Witherspoon Because devin witherspoon's the Guy for seattle that Was,

655
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 14: telling nick hey, do This Telling, rik, woollen hey you

656
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Speaker 15: No.

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Speaker 3: C walker we got the defensive.

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Speaker 2: Coordinator, Joining Us. CHRISTIAN parker, I mean i know we

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Speaker 2: got a chance, to talk, you know a couple of,

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Speaker 3: We got the noop.

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Speaker 2: As well We got greek life. Over here but let's

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Speaker 2: just get straight. Into it how has, you know been

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Speaker 2: adjusting to the new defensive roles for first time as D.

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Speaker 17: BEEN good I think i've seen the transition enough times

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Speaker 17: had to go through with building, the staff coaching the

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Speaker 5: Those things so it's definitely been.

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Speaker 17: A process like hiring a staff for the first time

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Speaker 17: was a pretty, cool experience and now we're kind of

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Speaker 17: getting into the defense and what we're, looking at, you

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Speaker 17: know for different positions.

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Speaker 5: And everything so that's been pretty.

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Speaker 8: Fun too and speaking of building, the staff now that

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Speaker 8: the staff, is finalized as you take a step back

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Speaker 8: and you look at it as, a whole what's the

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Speaker 8: whatever that? Might be how intentional was that as you

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Speaker 17: That, STAFF yeah i think we think we have a

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Speaker 17: think that the balance we were trying. To find we

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Speaker 17: have a couple of. College guys we have some experienced.

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Speaker 17: Pro guys we have guys who have kind of been

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Speaker 17: in both worlds in the last three or. Four years

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Speaker 17: guys that know, each other guys. THAT don't a lot

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Speaker 17: of guys have a similar schematic background in, the sense

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Speaker 17: do like everybody knows how Much Defense kirby smart usually Carries.

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Speaker 17: At georgia So just treder is not going to blink

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Speaker 17: At that scott BEING a dc in his own right

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Speaker 17: from LIBERTY to smu and And at harding back in.

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Speaker 17: The day that's gonna be a huge ASSET. For Us

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Speaker 17: derek ansley has a saving background, by trade but he's

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Speaker 17: also coached in this similar System With brandon staley who

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Speaker 17: you know he's been in a bunch of different schemes

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Speaker 17: and some of the three. Safety things they did some

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Speaker 17: different Things. In arizona. That's INTRIGUING but i know. His

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Speaker 17: background i've, known him, you, know forever so we've talked

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Speaker 5: FOCUS on i think we can do. Something special.

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Speaker 3: IT'S funny i Talked To ryan smith this week and

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Speaker 17: Ryan, smith, yeah well, FIRST off i didn't realize how

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Speaker 17: and then getting to the football stuff the. Following day

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Speaker 8: has already begun from the defensive, coaching staff you leading,

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Speaker 8: that charge and now as you're here at the twenty

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Speaker 8: and realistically how long would your expectation be to see

872
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 8: you guys go from ground zero to finding a groove

873
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 8: as a Defense.

874
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 17: In, DALLAS yeah i think, you know first, of all

875
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 17: with the overhauling, of it we just have to be

876
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 17: cohesive and on the same, page upstairs, you know which

877
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 17: is what we're doing. Right Now so i'm talking down

878
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 17: to what we call, offensive, formations, motion IDs runs. And

879
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 17: passes so the breakdown, is clean. You know then we've kind.

880
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 17: Of started we've been out, here meeting meeting every morning

881
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 17: as a, defensive staff just kind of getting into the

882
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 17: tape and kind of getting getting acclimated. With THAT but

883
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 17: i think it all starts with. The players so evaluating

884
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 17: our roster free agency. To draft, they're all, you know

885
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 17: in cohesion with, each other but being able to find

886
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 17: the best fits at. DIFFERENT spots a lot of them are,

887
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 17: already here, you know some of them are. Already here

888
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 17: we're not saying that we're about to bring a whole,

889
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 17: new eleven but, you know there's definitely some positions where

890
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 17: we need some better. Schematic fit and Everybody on will

891
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 17: McClay side and on, our side his coach has been

892
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 17: very aggressive.

893
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 8: In that and really quickly you mentioned something that stands

894
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,959
Speaker 8: out there in conjunction with what Something that simons said

895
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 8: to Us and schottenheimer put out. There yesterday mary c,

896
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 8: Lea foul you guys are moving him down to. Outside

897
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 8: linebacker can you talk about what you see in your

898
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 8: scouting of marys lea file that makes you look at him, and,

899
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 8: say hey there's an edge rusher in there waiting to.

900
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 8: Break out and what's going to be the challenge of

901
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 8: transitioning him man And having shaderra transition him over these next.

902
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 17: Several, MONTHS yeah i think watching him just going back

903
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 17: the last couple, of years, you know in twenty twenty,

904
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 17: four especially you saw him coming off the edge. A

905
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 17: lot you saw him surfing on, backside runs and he

906
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 17: has exceptional. Arm length, you know he's an aggressive, fast

907
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 17: player and he has an awareness for. The ball his

908
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 17: first college Position Coach. CLARK lee i actually Worked with

909
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 17: Clark At, notre DAME and I called clark. About him

910
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 17: he just talked about how smart and instinctive, he was

911
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 17: and you feel that. On tape the biggest adjustment for

912
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 17: him is going from on the second level having five

913
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 17: or six yards of distance to assess what's going on

914
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 17: trigger versus.

915
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 5: Right now that's that's. Immediate action so you can.

916
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 17: See you got to bump it up a, little bit,

917
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 17: you know of offensive tackles right to.

918
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 5: Lock up you got to wait, there long.

919
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 17: You KNOW so i think that's gonna be the biggest adjustment,

920
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 17: for him just changing his sight lines and and just

921
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 17: the the how immediate things are going to occur. For

922
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 17: him but we're. Looking forward he's excited about. The transition,

923
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 17: You know it's not like he's it's a foreign world.

924
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 17: To him he's aligned in that spot in, some way

925
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 17: shape or form before As a sam linebacker in the,

926
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 17: Four three so it'll be it'll be EXCITING for.

927
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: I got a chance to actually talk to him yesterday

928
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: and asked about how he's feeling with. The transition he, was,

929
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: Like man. I'm EXCITED but i, asked him, you know

930
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: what's the ideal size he wants to. Get to he

931
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 2: said about two. Forty plus is that something that you

932
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: feel is a good size?

933
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 5: For? HIM yeah i. Think so, YOU know i think

934
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 5: that when you're.

935
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,959
Speaker 17: PLAYING linebacker i haven't seen him in person yet because

936
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 17: he's Been, in Florida but i've seen his frame when

937
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 17: he was coming out. And everything so you saw a

938
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 17: frame that can, hold weight and usually with guys, like

939
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 17: that you're almost working harder to stay down in wait

940
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 17: to play. Another, POSITION now i think that can naturally

941
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 17: happen for him in terms of his natural weightlifting and

942
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 17: eating progression and. Everything else so with his, ARM length

943
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 17: i think that's probably appropriate with.

944
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 5: HIS frame i want to.

945
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: Look BACK at i remember you saying you want to.

946
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: Be multiple But when offensin's offices turned on, the tape

947
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: what do you want them to have to?

948
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 5: Prepare for that's a.

949
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 17: GOOD question i want them to HAVE to i mean

950
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 17: it's easy to. Say everything we don't want to do that. The,

951
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 17: whole yeah we don't want To be jack of our.

952
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 5: Trade.

953
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 17: MASTER none i think that, you know you want them

954
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 17: to prepare for a. Long, day yeah well that's first.

955
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 17: And foremost, YOU know i think, you know the play style.

956
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 17: IS critical i think sometimes we talk too much about

957
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 17: SCHEME and I mean i'm talking about like, as coaches

958
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 17: players and less about the.

959
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 5: Play style what do we want that to? Look like

960
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 5: what are our principals?

961
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 17: To play how are we taking, on blocks how are,

962
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 17: we tackling how we leverage routes on the, back end

963
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 17: and how are we taking the?

964
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 5: Ball away how are we?

965
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 17: SITUATIONALLY aware i think that's where it starts from a

966
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 17: football one on one. Education standpoint as we kind of

967
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 17: put all, that together then you kind of get into.

968
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 5: The scheme so what is a quarter flat drop for?

969
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 5: A linebacker?

970
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 17: You know what is a power scoot technique for a

971
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 17: defensive line and what is closed to crush mean for an?

972
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 17: Edge russer you start there and, then okay we. Got,

973
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 17: this okay now it's going to. Make sense we put this,

974
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 17: call in this call in so when offenses, face us

975
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 17: they need to expect that nothing is going to look.

976
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 17: The same sometimes disguise, Is good sometimes disguise is literally not.

977
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 5: Doing anything so if.

978
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 17: You're in a shell and, nobody's moving well that's a

979
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 17: disguise in itself because it's. No indicators so being able

980
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 17: to balance between all OF that i think.

981
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 5: Is critical but the play styling and the fundamentals is.

982
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 8: Most important so they can expect to, be confused and

983
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 8: they should have the ice bath ready afterwards.

984
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 17: FOR they i think. THAT'S appropriate i think that you

985
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 17: want to. Play this this is, a violent, physical game

986
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 17: so it's meant to be played. That way but you

987
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 17: can only do that if you're doing the little.

988
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 8: Things right going back to the personnel aspect, of it

989
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 8: one of your biggest calling cards has been your ability

990
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 8: to develop young, defensive Bags obviously pants certain The, Second

991
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 8: quinya Mitchell and Regien. And philly when you're coming in

992
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 8: and you're evaluating a guy Like civilon revel third round pick,

993
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 8: last year didn't have an off season to prepare last

994
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 8: year because he was returning from THAT. Torn acl you

995
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 8: have him in his first healthy off season and. He's

996
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 8: Excited the cowboys are excited to get you. Guys together

997
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 8: when you talk about, his traits what stands out the

998
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 8: most to You about revel and also how excited are

999
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 8: you to get your hands, on him but not Just You,

1000
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 8: Ryan Smith, Derek Angeley, robert muschamp and to develop that

1001
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 8: young man in the way he.

1002
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 5: Can, be yeah. Really excited. Number one you know how.

1003
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 17: HE'S built I mean i remember sitting in the former

1004
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 17: interview room here last year with him coming OUT of

1005
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 17: ecu and talking. To him, you know he has a

1006
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 17: hell of. A story football means a lot to him

1007
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 17: and he wants to work hard. At IT so i

1008
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 17: think that's where. It starts he has that building. HIS

1009
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 17: mind i, think physicality like physically, excuse me, his traits,

1010
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 17: the height, the speed. The, POWER yeah i mean he

1011
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 17: has all. Of that so now it's about just working

1012
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 17: really from the neck up in terms of how the

1013
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 17: position needs to. Be played, you know when you're injured,

1014
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 17: coming out it's hard for you to focus on the

1015
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 17: little things, because again like that macro level vision is

1016
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 17: so important because you've got to be able to go

1017
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 17: out there and, execute right but then you miss the

1018
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 17: steps of certain other things in terms of like the.

1019
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 17: Rookie development so really just acting like we're starting with

1020
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 17: a blank slate.

1021
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 5: With him, YOU know i think he's.

1022
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 17: Going to be coached by the best With With da

1023
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 17: Smithy and rob those guys do a really good job

1024
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 17: of bringing. Guys Along obviously i'll be involved in that process,

1025
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 17: as well. You know so we're really excited to to

1026
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 17: take it as far.

1027
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 8: As we can and as you guys are meeting with,

1028
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 8: these prospects specifically, defensive, backs cornerbacks even more specifically From

1029
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 8: A christian, parker standpoint what are some non negotiables that

1030
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 8: you have to see in a cornerback prospect or someone

1031
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 8: who's been in the league even a year or two, that,

1032
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 8: says hey you have to HAVE a B and c

1033
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 8: or we're not entertaining bring You to dallas.

1034
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 17: AT all i think you have to be physically and.

1035
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 17: MENTALLY tough i think that's where. It starts so you

1036
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 17: got you want guys that are willing, to tackle willing

1037
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 17: to put their hands on, people impressed and you know

1038
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 17: they can bounce back from things that may not be

1039
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 17: perfect that you Have to it's a. Different position it's

1040
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 17: a lot only spot. Out there, you know There's No.

1041
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 17: Wi fi you when you're flying your That's the west on.

1042
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 17: Your phone that's how it feels out there on, the islands,

1043
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 17: You know so you have to be able to survive

1044
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 17: out there without looking for confirmation and comfort from. Anybody

1045
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 17: else so you want people who are comfortable. DOING that

1046
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 17: i think once you get, from that like the, foot

1047
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 17: speed the balance and body control. Is important you have

1048
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 17: to be able to start stop just as fast as.

1049
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 17: You start so the forty time. Is cool you want

1050
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 17: guys who have level, three speed but they better be

1051
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 17: able to sit it down on the, dig routes the,

1052
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 17: curl routes and be disruptive on the.

1053
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: Football important sorry, MY bad i mean to cut. YOU

1054
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: off i know you got, to go but. Real fast

1055
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: you're a part of a pretty much rebuilding stage For this.

1056
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 2: DALLAS defense i mean it's no question that, they finished,

1057
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: you know dead last and pretty much every statistical category.

1058
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: Last year but what excites you the most about being

1059
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 2: a part of this kind of new chapter Of this.

1060
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 17: Dallas, DEFENSE yeah I mean i think that we just

1061
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 17: have a chance to build it in, our image, you

1062
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 17: KNOW and i think that we have the right people.

1063
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 17: DOING it i think everybody is urgent and making. It

1064
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 17: happen it's my first opportunity to make. This HAPPEN and

1065
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 17: i think you kind of just dream as a coach

1066
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 17: to to hit that button and call. The place so

1067
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 17: with the staff that we were able to hire an

1068
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 17: organization like this that's so rich. In tradition, you know

1069
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 17: you don't have to look very far walking in the

1070
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 17: building to see an example of what it needs to.

1071
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 17: Look like and so we're going to do our own version.

1072
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 17: Of that but we're really excited to make.

1073
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 5: That.

1074
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: Happen Well, Christian parker cowboys, defensive coordinator excited to have.

1075
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: You here thank you so much for taking time out

1076
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: to come and chat With The dallas cowboys folks.

1077
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 5: Over, here.

1078
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: Obliged OBLIGE but nfl combine continues Here, In.

1079
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 3: Indianapolis indiana but that's a wrap here For.

1080
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: Podcast nation we are heading Back, to dallas so. So

1081
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: long we'll see you guys Back, In dallas texas prospects

1082
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: looking to continue to make. An impression we'll See what

1083
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: dallas ends up taking IN The nfl Draft.

1084
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,239
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1085
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