1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hey, Hello, Hi, what is your name? 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Nancy. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Nancy like Nancy Drew the famous Uh what does she do? 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: She's like a detective, right? 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: I think? Yeah, I think she's like a detective of 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: a book. Right. I think. 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. Is that uh where you came up 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: with the name Nancy? 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I don't know. 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: I was thinking like a fake name, and I just 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: thought of Nancy because nobody would guess that I am Nancy. 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: I don't know I would be I could be convinced 13 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: that your real name is Nancy. You sound like a Nancy. 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: Oh cool, I'm fucked. 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: Wow, you know you're not fucked. You're not fucked. You're 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: not fucked. I'm gonna assume your gender real cood? Are 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: you a man? 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: I am a man? 19 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like like a really like I 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: don't know why, but I feel like like a really 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: like Nancy could be the name of like a really confident, 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: attractive man. I really feel that way. 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: That's that's a pretty good. Yeah. If I ever get 24 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: a son on Monday with me Nancy. 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: Well I wouldn't. You shouldn't do that experiment on your son. 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: You should let some other poor motherfucker try that one out. 27 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: But I think it could work. I think Nancy could 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: work as like as a masculine name, like well, it's 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: like well like like actually, I mean there's there's Clancy, 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: which is like an extremely masculine name. That's like a 31 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: lumberjack name, Clancy. 32 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's that guy Tom Clancy. 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: I don't even know who that guy is, but he 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: just shows up on video games. 35 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's killed a bunch of people. What's up, Nancy? 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: How you doing? What can I house? What made you 37 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: want to call this phone? 38 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: This is crazy. 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: I'd never thought that I would get here, but I 40 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: when I was eavesdrop, I mean daydreaming while I do 41 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: quite a lot, I thought about I could tell you 42 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: a story of how I was a CEO of a 43 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: small company at an age of nineteen. 44 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: You were the CEO of a company at the age 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: of nineteen. What kind of company was that? Were you 46 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: a drug dealer? 47 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: No? So it was actually my dad's company. It was 48 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: like a physical therapy machine manufacturing company. 49 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: So like there was like heating paths and. 50 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 4: Like massage chairs, I guess. 51 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: And then yeah, and then he suddenly died. Oh, I 52 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: had to take over the company for like a week. 53 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm really sorry to hear about your dad, But also 54 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: I have to imagine that a lot of the people 55 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: who worked at that company were a little pissed off 56 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: that the CEO's nineteen year old son was now telling 57 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: them what to do. 58 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I mean what was I was just. 59 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: Trying to, I don't know, just survive. I mean. The 60 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: worst thing was my uncle was trying to basically overthrow 61 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: me and trying to take over the company and his wife. 62 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: So basically my aunt knew that and was scheming with 63 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: basically rest of the family to prevent him from doing that. 64 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: This is the plot. I think this is the plot 65 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: of the Lion King, right, this is the plot. Yeah, 66 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: this is the plot of the Lion King. Simba's dad, 67 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: Mufasa dies and so he becomes the king of the 68 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: of the massage chair company, and his uncle gets like 69 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: really pissed off and jealous and tries to dethrone him. 70 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. 71 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: You live, bro, you lived the Lion King, but for 72 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: massage chairs. 73 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, I guess I am the massage chair king. 74 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 2: Lion King. 75 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're the massage chair lion king. So what happened 76 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: with your uncle? Did he like, did he banish you? 77 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: No? 78 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: So actually what happened was I was a CEO and 79 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: then my aunt came up to me and was like, listen, dude, 80 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: this is like your uncle's trying to overthrow the company. 81 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: But your dad never thought that he was a good 82 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: like a good fit for the CEO, and I don't agree. 83 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: Also, so. 84 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 3: We're going to create a water tight contract so that 85 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 3: he cannot take over the company. So me at nineteen. 86 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: By the way, this I like, I'm an American And 87 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 3: this happened in Indonesia because that's where my dad's business was. 88 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: So I was like jet lagged. 89 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: Because I just flew like twelve hours out of freaking 90 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: nowhere all into my. 91 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: Your dad, your dad passes away, and then like how 92 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: soon after you get the news? Are you thrown on 93 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: a plane to Indonesia? 94 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: Oh? 95 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, like the day after. 96 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: That's insane because. 97 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: I got I got the call from my sister like, oh, 98 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: by the way, dad died, and the next say, I 99 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: flew and then I went there. I don't I don't 100 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 3: know how long signed the plane ride was probably like hours, 101 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: and then I got there and then basically his like 102 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: biggest shareholder slashed. His mentor who's like seventy years old, 103 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: was basically told me like, by the way, this company 104 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: is too small, doesn't have a board, and because this 105 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 3: is a very patriarchal culture, you're the only son, so 106 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: you are in charge. 107 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: So I was like, what the hell. 108 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: So that's how kind of it became that and then 109 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 3: basically I was like the proxy. My mom made most 110 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: of the decision, but I was kind of like the figurehead. 111 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: I guess. 112 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 113 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: So yeah, I. 114 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: Mean that's how most that I think that's how most 115 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: organizations work, is that there's a guy who like is 116 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, he's the quote unquote CEO, president, whatever, but 117 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: it's really you know, his mom or the shareholders that 118 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: actually make the decisions. 119 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's true. Yeah, so that's kind 120 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: of what I told the shareholder to to Like, dude, 121 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: I am in college, I don't know any things about business, 122 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: but yeah, so we have to create like a watertight 123 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: contract so that my uncle could not take over. And 124 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 3: then we were also afraid that when he finds out 125 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: the news that he was not going to take over 126 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: the company, which I thought he thought it was guaranteed. 127 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: We had to like basically create like a protection system 128 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: for my aunt so he doesn't do anything rational out 129 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: of anger. 130 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's what happened. 131 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I I was curious about that, Like, what happened 132 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: with your uncle? Did he did he crash out? Did 133 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: he get pissed? 134 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 135 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: I mean so, so this was kind of the game plan. 136 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: The game plan was, we write the contract, we give 137 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 3: it to my aunt with an excuse that the seven 138 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: year old shareholder will basically take my place in an excuse. 139 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: That I have to go back to school, blah blah blah. 140 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: And and basically like I flew out to basically get 141 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: rid of, like to not be in the mess when 142 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 3: it happened, I just told them to just message me 143 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: if shit hits the fan, and all I heard was 144 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: all good, So I'm assuming shit did not hit the 145 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 3: fan too much. 146 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: Is your dad Indonesian? Is your family like Indonesian or 147 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: do you guys just like why is the company in Indonesia? 148 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 149 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 3: So my family, So, my my ethnicity is Korean. I 150 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 3: am from here, but my dad's family is from Korea. 151 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: And I guess, like I don't really know the logistics, 152 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: but I just I think just opening a company and 153 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: managing a company was a lot cheaper Indonesia and my 154 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: aunt and uncle who I spoke about before, lived there, 155 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: so I think just because of like connections and yeah, 156 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: just mostly connections and opportunity. I'm assuming he started his 157 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: company in Indonesia and he was going through shit too. 158 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: I did not know this, but then like apparently like 159 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: he had like all the right proper visas and everything, 160 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 3: but apparently like police will be waiting outside his house 161 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: waiting for a bribe or if you know, if he 162 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: doesn't bribe them, then they can just deport him. 163 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: So he was going through that too. So it was 164 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: a lot were. 165 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: You were you were you close with your dad at 166 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: the time that he passed away? Did you have much 167 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: of a relationship with him? 168 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: So this is kind of the weird thing. 169 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: I think we kind of did so, like because of 170 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 3: his business and because I was in America. I like 171 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 3: the last time before he died, Like the last time 172 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 3: I saw him was like I don't know, like ten 173 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 3: years ago, and he would WOA like once in a while, 174 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 3: like but like he we would always like talk. 175 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: On the phone every I. 176 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 3: Would say, like like three four. 177 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: Times a week we would talk. 178 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: But whoa, yeah, okay, you like everybody, go ahead. Oh, 179 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, like everybody thought like my 180 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 3: mom and dad were divorced because like they're separated for 181 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: so long, But honestly, it was just my dad was 182 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: just financially supporting us. 183 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: And that's it. 184 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: Bro, hold on, hold on, hold on. So you're telling me, Okay, 185 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: you're telling me, and you were living with your mom, 186 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: like your mom was the parent in the house with you. Yeah, okay, 187 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: so you're telling me. Do you tell me that your 188 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: dad went to Indonesia and just didn't come back for 189 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: ten years, and so you but you would still but 190 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: you would still talk to him on the phone three 191 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: times a week, but you didn't see him in person 192 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: in ten years. Yeah, and he didn't see your mom 193 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: in person for ten years. 194 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 195 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 3: I mean he did like come to visit like once, 196 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: I think, like in the middle of it to like 197 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: maybe three four, like maybe like five years since we 198 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: were separated because of the whole thing. So I saw 199 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: him once then, but like other than that, yeah, it 200 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: was it was kind of years of not seeing him. 201 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: So yeah, it was kind of like a time machine too, 202 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: because he would remember, like things that I liked five 203 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: years ago, and when I saw him that day, he 204 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: would buy things or give me gifts that I was 205 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: interested in five years ago and bring him and was like, oh, 206 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 3: I was a child and now I'm more of a 207 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: teenager now, so I'm not really into cartoons on my 208 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: T shirt. 209 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: But okay, you know, damn man, So you what's do 210 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: you give? Any Like, Okay, where in America were you even? 211 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say very vague and say like. 212 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: West Coast okay, And so yeah, I mean, how did 213 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: it feel when your dad passed away? Because I mean 214 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: that's such a interest, that's such an interesting I've never 215 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: heard I you know, obviously, you know there are people 216 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: you know, I've talked to on the show and that 217 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: I've heard of of, like you know, their dads weren't 218 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: in their lives, and then you know those people whose 219 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: dads are in their lives, but your dad is like 220 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: it was like a phone. 221 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it was definitely kind of weird because 222 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, like my my siblings were more attached 223 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 3: with my dad for sure. 224 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 225 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 3: I think they just had better memories of him. I have, 226 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: like mental issues that like long term memory is like 227 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: very foggy because of it, so I don't remember much. 228 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, so like I would say, like a lot 229 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 3: of most of my memories just like of his voice, 230 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: I guess. I mean I do still like remember like 231 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: little slivers of seeing him and things like that. But then, yeah, 232 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 3: I think that was kind of the thing was like 233 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: on the plane, I just remember thinking like, oh, like 234 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: last time I saw him was like five years ago, 235 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: and the next time I'm going to see him as 236 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: like dead, which was true, I did see him dead, 237 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: But then like also it was also like everybody around 238 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: me was like I don't know, It's like was like 239 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: urging me to be sadder than I looked, and I 240 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: felt like I had to be crying and be sad, 241 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 3: but I don't know, and I kind of felt bad 242 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: about it too. I was like, this is my dad, 243 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: Like yeah, I'm like very sad about it, but like 244 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: I don't look like, you know, like my mom who's 245 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: like on the floor like about to pass out, you know. 246 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: What I mean? 247 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: So your mom is very sad? 248 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, my mom was very sad. 249 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And but did she see him very often over 250 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: those ten years? 251 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: No, she was like with us, so it was kind 252 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: of like that too. I mean, she's kind of an 253 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: odd character too. She like she's one person that I 254 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 3: know who like genuinely is okay without interacting with humans 255 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: as much. 256 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: If that. 257 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: Like, I've never like seen her really lonely, and she 258 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: literally never. 259 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: Really gets out of the house. 260 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 3: She has like maybe one or two friends, so I 261 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: don't know, And I think like my dad was maybe 262 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: the one anchor she had at that time, so I mean, 263 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: and also, you know, like he's her husband's I guess 264 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: it makes sense that he was. 265 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: She was very devastated. 266 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, why are you the youngest or are you 267 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: are you the oldest? 268 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: I'm the middle. 269 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 3: Child, so but like, but I have two sisters, so 270 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: I guess I guess like the logistic was like I'm 271 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: the only man of the house. Yeah, and it's like yeah, 272 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: and it's like a traditional Asian household, so I think 273 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: that's kind of how it was. And also my older 274 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: sister could not leave the country at the time because 275 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: of like visa and issues like that. 276 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 5: So huh. 277 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: Interesting. So how's your relationship with your mom? 278 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 4: Oh? 279 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: Not the greatest, to be honest, I mean we are 280 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: working on it, I. 281 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: Guess, but I like she. 282 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: I mean we still like talking like once in a while. 283 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 3: But so my mom's kind of a has an odd 284 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 3: personality in a way that like other moms would like 285 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 3: really appreciate, like if their son calls them and you know, 286 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 3: but like she's more of the person like if I call, 287 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: then she's like, only call me if you have like 288 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 3: an objective, if there's something that we need to talk about. Yeah, yeah, 289 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 3: she's Yeah, she's very much like that. I mean, she's 290 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: gotten better because I've like told her like, hey, like 291 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 3: I would just want to catch up and you know, 292 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: like see how you're doing. Because now she travels for work, 293 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 3: so so you know, like I would love to just 294 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 3: catch up. So now she's better at just answering my 295 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: phone and but yeah, but she's kind of a NodD ball. 296 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: But I think that's kind of how she survives the 297 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 3: whole turmoil too, because I think I think that's just 298 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: allowed her to be more resilient. 299 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: I guess, bro. 300 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: How are you doing like like all that, like let 301 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: me let me stop you real quick. All right, so 302 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: you were this had okay, so to go back to 303 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: your main story. Okay, So you became the CEO of 304 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: this company. You were there for like a week, and 305 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: now who's running the company now? 306 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so that's seventy year old shareholder. So we 307 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: basically created the contract and said, hey, you're going to 308 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 3: take over the company, and and he was actually very 309 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 3: nice about it, and he said, you know, like you 310 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 3: guys are still the family. So what profit like comes 311 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 3: out of it, Like, we will give like livery percentage 312 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 3: of it too, And I and I think, and I think, 313 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if this is correct, but I just remember, 314 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm just doing this to say things because 315 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 3: Danny Jobs, I generally don't care about profit. I don't 316 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: care about money. This is a whole shit show. 317 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 2: That I don't want to be a part of. 318 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: Inter So so I remember I just left, and I 319 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: told my mom too. I was like, I don't want 320 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: to be a part of this. If things happened, things happen. 321 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 3: If you can, you just take care of it, because 322 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: I don't want to be a part of it. And 323 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: I think last thing I heard was that basically like 324 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 3: that company got liquidated, and I think it got consumed 325 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 3: by another bigger company, if I remember correctly. So because 326 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 3: I remember I was like, I was like receiving chats 327 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 3: from my aunt, just like updates or like, and I 328 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 3: would just ignore them because because my mom would just 329 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 3: deal with it, and I just that's the past. I 330 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 3: just want to leave. But then I stopped hearing them, 331 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: and then I remember my mom was like, oh, yeah, that. 332 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: Company is no more. 333 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 3: So I was like, okay, well good for good for us, 334 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: I guess. So yeah, so that's what happened to the company. 335 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 1: How how okay? So this was when you were in nineteen. 336 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: How old are you now? 337 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 3: I am now almost twenty nine, thirty thirty? 338 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: Oh oh fuck, oh shit, okay, damn all right, so 339 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: this was a long time ago. 340 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, this was a long time ago. Yeah yeah, yeah, 341 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: in many years of therapy and not like a real one. 342 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,239 Speaker 2: And then so I'm I'm able to talk about it. 343 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: I guess, bro, how you okay? So back to what 344 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: I Yeah, how you doing now? Man? What's up? Goddamn 345 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: eleven years? Okay, what's up? How you doing? Oh? 346 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: I'm doing great now. 347 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: I just tell this story and people are like, to 348 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 3: my friends, I guess and They're like, dude, this is 349 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 3: like a drama. And I'm like, uh, yeah, I guess. 350 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: So I'm doing great though. 351 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 3: Now I am in a PhD program and I'm about 352 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 3: to graduate and yeah, so everything's going pretty well. 353 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: Cool. Do you still talk to your mom or is 354 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: it like you know, she's like, only call me when 355 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: you need some. 356 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: Oh actually yeah? 357 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: So oh So I actually just got back from a 358 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 3: family Redian trip because because my mom's mom, so my grandma, 359 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: she's like ninety, so my mom wanted this to be 360 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: like a last little trip before she probably will pass 361 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: away soon. So I actually just. 362 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: Got back from family reunion with my mom, my. 363 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 3: Siblings, and my uncle and cousins who I have not 364 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 3: seen for like twenty years. So I saw them for 365 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 3: the first time in like twenty years, like two three 366 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: days ago, which was pretty wild. 367 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, and do you still keep up with your 368 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: siblings your sisters? 369 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah those Yeah, my sisters are like I'm 370 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 3: kind of the I guess, like my anchor to the family. 371 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 3: I like they I still like hang out with them 372 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 3: and get along with them and text them. 373 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: So yeah, nice, man, Uh, you gotta you gotta, you 374 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: gotta a lady a guy in your life. What's what's 375 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: going on over there? 376 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 377 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 3: I actually I recently started dating this girl. I mean, 378 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 3: like we've been talking for like four. 379 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: Months, but uh like. 380 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: And like recently became serious. 381 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 6: I guess. 382 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 3: Cool. 383 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah she's pretty cool. 384 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 385 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: Cool. Do you do you like get did you, like, say, 386 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 1: did you get any money from from this company that 387 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: you like saved it all? Or was that kind of 388 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: just like a was that was that lucrative at all? 389 00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: Actually? 390 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 3: No, So when we like I remember like when like 391 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,239 Speaker 3: when we were just processing everything, we I remember just 392 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 3: like counting the investments, like because a lot of investments 393 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: actually comes with death. 394 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: I guess I just. 395 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 3: I don't know how money works, but it's basically the 396 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 3: profits that we were making at the time were basically 397 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 3: split even with like the depth that the company had. 398 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 3: So I think we Yeah, so I think we basically 399 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 3: didn't get anything. Or if we did, I think that 400 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: covered form like the funeral and the other stuff that 401 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 3: we had to do. 402 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: While we were there. 403 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, we just broke even. 404 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 405 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: Huh. This is an interesting, interesting story. This is very interesting. 406 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: Do you feel like what you said you went through 407 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: like multiple years of therapy or whatever, Like, do you 408 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: do you think like this untraditional or I guess I don't. 409 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: Maybe it's not untraditional, maybe it it is traditional. I 410 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: don't fuck know, But is it like do you think 411 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: this family dynamic had like a long term effect on 412 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: you now that you're like, you know, approaching thirty, Like, 413 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: do you feel like it's like like like it's still 414 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: like lingering somehow. 415 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 3: I mean like it's something that I personally like steer 416 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: away from it, so like you know, like the whole 417 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: like Asian traditional like ivy idea of like oh, you know, 418 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 3: like no matter what your parents do, like it could 419 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 3: it could do like absolutely one hundred percent wrong, Like 420 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 3: you know, you still need to follow them, and you 421 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 3: know you need to like basically you know, support them 422 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: until they die, and you know you'd be feel like 423 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 3: you'd have to be indebted to them, like for the 424 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: rest of your life kind of thing. My sisters still 425 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: kind of believe that. I think that's why they are 426 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: more like family oriented and still like live with my 427 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: like live near my mom and things, and I live 428 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 3: across the country now. But I think I just kind 429 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 3: of feared really away from that, you know. I think 430 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 3: that's also why I clash with my mom a lot, 431 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: because my sisters are always like you know, like it is, 432 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 3: that is how she is, you know, so just don't 433 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 3: make her mad, you know, just like move along with 434 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 3: it while I try to kind of, as they put it, 435 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 3: like like put more fuel in the fire, you know, 436 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 3: like if like I try to be like, you know, 437 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: she what she said or what she did was wrong, 438 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 3: like we should not do this, you know. So actually 439 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 3: another crazy thing now that you say this, so kind 440 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: of going off with that ideology, Like my mom actually 441 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: never told my grandma that my dad is dead. So 442 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 3: even during their family reunion, my grandma still thought my 443 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 3: dad was alive and was asking me like what your 444 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: could your dad not come to the reunion because he's busy? 445 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, he's just really busy. 446 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: Oh how long how long after he died was this? 447 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: I mean, this was like. 448 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 3: Last week, so I guess it was like Jesus, it's 449 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 3: been like ten years. 450 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: That's kind of crazy. 451 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 452 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, So like I always say, like, there's gonna 453 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 3: be that, like my Grandma's gonna be that meme of 454 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: like a surprised dude's face, like when she goes up 455 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: to heaven and sees my dad. 456 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: Like why the fuck are you here? You know. 457 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: So, so, yeah, interesting what Nancy? 458 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 3: Right? 459 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Nancy, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna do this. I 460 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: don't know how many people we got hanging out in 461 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: the live twitch chap, but if anyone in the live 462 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: twitch chat has questions for Nancy, I'm gonna I'm gonna 463 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: let let's let's answer some questions or feed you some 464 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: questions from the live twitch chat if the twitch chat 465 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 1: wants to ask any questions. Sometimes the twitch chat ask questions, 466 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: other times they just talk to each other about, uh, 467 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: whatever is going on in their life. Okay, here we go. 468 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: All right, someone said, why did you not tell the 469 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: grandma that your dad is dead? 470 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 2: Oh? 471 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, like so, my family's reasoning was, like she's 472 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 3: very old because she was like eighty at that time, 473 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: and they thought that the news of it, like they 474 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 3: were very close, like he was like she she treated 475 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 3: him like like her own son. So they thought that 476 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 3: if she found out that he was dead, then that 477 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 3: would cost so much like mental stress on him on her, 478 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 3: that she would also die. But yeah, so that's what 479 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 3: that was the reasoning. 480 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. What's your PhD in? 481 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 6: Oh? 482 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 3: So, I'm gonna also be very vague and say, like 483 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 3: related to some medical science research, is what I'm gonna say. 484 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: That sounds important. That sounds like it's good. It sounds 485 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: like you're doing something important and real. You're not getting 486 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: like if you're not doing like film history or some bullshit. 487 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: Someone people are saying, did the uncle kill the dad? 488 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: Do you think your uncle killed your dad? 489 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: No? 490 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 3: I know that for sure, that's not what happened. So 491 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 3: he actually died from like a blain brain bleed. Actually, 492 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: this is a really. 493 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: Crazy story too. 494 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 3: So my dad had high blood pressure for like the 495 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: longest time, and I guess like he was like out 496 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 3: in the middle I love nowhere like in Indonesia for 497 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 3: like a business meeting with that share holder that that 498 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 3: I talked about, and I guess like an aneurysm in 499 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: his brain like burst in the middle of night, because 500 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 3: I guess he was just very stressed about that busy 501 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 3: So like two am, three am, like my shareholder, the 502 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 3: shareholder guy said, you know, I'm gonna give him a name. 503 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: He's named Brian. So Brian. 504 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 3: Apparently, like I was sleeping next to him in the 505 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: hotel room and my dad like suddenly like turned on 506 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 3: the night lamp and was like my meds, my meds, 507 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 3: and then fell down and then uh he was and 508 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 3: then like the nearest hospital was like I think they 509 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: said like five hours, and so the ambulance was driving 510 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 3: for five hours. 511 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: But obviously if you have a. 512 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 3: Brain bleed, you don't have five hours. So I guess 513 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: he passed away in the ambulance and just arrived dead 514 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 3: at the hospital. 515 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: Oh man, So yeah, fuck man, he was in the middle. 516 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: He was like in the middle of nowhere, Indonesia, five 517 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: hours away from a hospital and got a brain aneurysm 518 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: because he was stressed out about a meeting. 519 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 2: Exactly. 520 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: Yes, nuts man. Do you think how old. 521 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: Was he at that time? 522 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 3: I think he was like. 523 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 2: Early fifties, mid fifties maybe. 524 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: Shit. Man, does that make you think about like life 525 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: at all? Are you? 526 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 3: Are you? 527 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: Like, damn, I gotta make sure I'm not working so 528 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: hard I don't get a fucking like brain bleed. 529 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: Oh. 530 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 3: I mean like for first few years, I was like 531 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: in this constant state, like I could die any moment. 532 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 533 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, I was like a. 534 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: Constant like I was like you know, like I remember 535 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 3: I was like walking down the street and I will 536 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 3: be like I could like that bus could hit me, 537 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 3: or you know, like something could follow my head and 538 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 3: I could die. And I was like in a constant 539 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 3: stead of panic. But now I kind of like flipped 540 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 3: the other way of like I can die any moment, like, 541 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 3: so might as. 542 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: Well enjoy every day. 543 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: Like like you know, other people are like, oh, I 544 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 3: have this money, and I should save you know, all 545 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 3: of it. I mean, yeah, I've just obviously be piscally 546 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 3: responsible and save some of it. But I'm just like, 547 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 3: you know, like if it'll make you happy, you know, 548 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: go to that place, you know, buy that whatever ridiculous 549 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 3: thing that you want to buy. 550 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: You know. 551 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 3: So I kind of flipped the other way now with 552 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 3: that ideology too. 553 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: It's kind of funny to me that well I don't funny, 554 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, but like the just the fact that 555 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: like they're like, hey, so your dad died of stress 556 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: from running this company, so why don't you run it instead? 557 00:31:59,360 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: Right? 558 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean they were just like you 559 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: don't know what to do, and he's there just like 560 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 3: I'm just like standing there, just like waving, and they're 561 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: like that's the guy. We're gonna grab that guy. 562 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: Oh so yeah. 563 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: All right, let me see let me look for one 564 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: more question. Oh okay, people were asking if your dad, 565 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: if your uncle killed your dad because it was ah, 566 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: it's a lion king. Do you still talk to the uncle? 567 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: That's my question, that's not in the chat. I'm just curious, 568 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: Oh hell to the No. 569 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I just felt really uncomfortable too. 570 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: I mean one because like I know that like. 571 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 3: Whole thing, and so that just leaves a. 572 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: Bad taste in the mouth. 573 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: But also, like while we were there, he knew that 574 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: he had a chance of taking over the company, so 575 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 3: like while we were there, he would basically like quote 576 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 3: unquote pamper us, like take us to like fancy department stores, 577 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 3: and like I remember, like he bought this really expensive 578 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 3: lipstick for my sister, and you know we obviously were like, oh, 579 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 3: you know, they're politely accept and thank you, and then 580 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 3: I remember my sister like leaned overs like I don't 581 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 3: even wear a lisstick, So like all that like pampering 582 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: just like and then you know, leading to him not 583 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 3: getting what he wanted. 584 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wanting. Yeah, but that's that's just want to Yeah, 585 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: that's yeah, because he's like like he he's just acting 586 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: under the assumption that he's about to have a ship 587 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: ton of money and spending it before he can even 588 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: confirm that he will have it. 589 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: Exactly. 590 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, So like all in all, because of all of 591 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: the mess, Yeah, I don't talk to the and I 592 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 3: don't talk to the uncle. I try to, Like, I 593 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 3: don't think I'll ever go back to Indonesia ever. 594 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 4: Oh yeah. 595 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: The aunt though, the aunt's interesting to me because the 596 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: aunt was like, yo, my uncle. The aunt was like, Yo, 597 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: my husband's kind of a dumbass, and I don't think 598 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: he should have this company, So you should. I'm gonna 599 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: make sure that it goes to you. 600 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean my I mean that's like my aunt, 601 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: Like she's such a sweetheart, Like she is one of 602 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 3: the nicest persons that I've ever met. And I think 603 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 3: part of it was like she, you know, she was 604 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 3: my dad's sister, so I think he she had his 605 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 3: best interest. 606 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh. Okay, well that 607 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: changes everything, Okay, okay, oh that's just completely Okay, this 608 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: was your uncle, this was your uncle. Okay, this is 609 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: not your blood uncle, this is your uncle. 610 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. 611 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like, oh okay. 612 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: That changes completely everything. Yeah, that changes complete Yeah. But 613 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: then of course your aunt is gonna have your have 614 00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: your back on that or not. Of course, I guess 615 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: it's not a given. But uh, your aunt, your aunt 616 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: could totally I mean, it's in your aunt's best interest 617 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: that you know, she's her I guess she gets the 618 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: money right over the fuck. But that's uh, damn, that's 619 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: that's yeah. Oh that makes your uncle like a triple dumbass. Honestly, 620 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: sorry to keep calling your uncle a dumbass, but I 621 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: get the sense you don't particularly like him, and it's 622 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: fun to call people a dumbass. 623 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's fine. You know, I don't 624 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 3: think I mean, he doesn't speak English, so I don't 625 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 3: think he can even listen to this podcast anyway. 626 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: So well, Nancy again, you know, look, if you're ever 627 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: thinking about really adopting that name, I think it's a 628 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: good name. Is Uh. Thank you for sharing the story 629 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: with us. This was fast. I feel like I just 630 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: watched a movie talking to you. 631 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 3: Oh well, I'm glad it was entertaining. 632 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 2: Thanks, Lyle. 633 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 634 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go. 635 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 4: Live your life? 636 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 2: Indonesia is a great place. They have great food. Visit 637 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 2: it some time. 638 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 3: Just get your vaccinations beforehand. 639 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: Beautiful, have a good rest of the night, Nancy. Thank 640 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: you for sharing, and good luck doing medical good luck 641 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: doing medical stuff on the West coast of the United States. 642 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. You have a good night, by Lyle. 643 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: Bye bye, Nancy. That was a nice call. That was 644 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: like I've never seen I hate I do this a lot. 645 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: Like I'll be like, oh, that was like the Wire. 646 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: Never seen the wire. I was about to say that 647 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: was like secession. But I've never seen secession. But I 648 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: think I think I know enough about I never seen 649 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: a single episode or I never read the Wikipedia page. 650 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: I don't know a single thing about secession, but I 651 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: know that it's about succeeding succession, you success, and so 652 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna assume this is this guy's life is like secession. 653 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 1: Lion King vibes. I haven't seen you know, I have 654 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: seen The Lion King, but I saw it a long 655 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: time ago. It's been a while. Maybe I'll'll watch it again, 656 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll watch it right now. 657 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 4: Hello, Hey man, I just have like a lot of 658 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 4: stuff going on recently, and I'm kind of bummed out, 659 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 4: all right. I mean, I'm good, I just it's just 660 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,280 Speaker 4: like it's kind of lonely out here. 661 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: Where are you? 662 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: Where is that here? 663 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 4: I mean I'm in my apartment, but like you know, 664 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 4: there's just no people to talk to, like. 665 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: Even metaphor yeah, what so you have? 666 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean like I can't even ask I 667 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 4: can't even ask this guy like if they want to 668 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 4: go work out, you know. And then like I've even 669 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 4: I've gone to one of your shows in LA and 670 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 4: I brought somebody, like a significant other, and then like now, 671 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 4: i mean like I don't think that my lifestyle was 672 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 4: the problem, but I guess my lifestyle was a problem. 673 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 4: And now like I don't even talk to that person 674 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 4: anymore because like because I just I mean New Year's 675 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 4: came along, and I just is like I'm just I 676 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 4: just felt like it was a resolute resolution not to 677 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 4: talk to that person anymore because I just don't have. 678 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 2: I just I'm not like. 679 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 4: I just feel like, you know, if you have like 680 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 4: what do you call that when it's conditional love? And 681 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 4: then like unconditional love is different, and I'm just like 682 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 4: it was a conditional love type of thing, and I'm 683 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 4: just like yeah, like damn, like. 684 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: Guy, yeah, well you know, it's I've been I've actually 685 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: been thinking recently a lot about that concept because like 686 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: I think all love has uh. I think I don't 687 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: think that like truly unconditional love exists. I think there's 688 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 1: like I ideally you find love with like the minimum 689 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: amount of conditions possible, you know what I mean? Like 690 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: you like like like like if you're like, if you 691 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: hit someone, they're probably not gonna love you. You know, that's 692 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: a good condition to have, Like there's never gonna there's 693 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: never gonna be zero conditions. You know what you said that? 694 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: What was it? What was your lifestyle that that that 695 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: you said was fucking this up? 696 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 4: Solutly? Like to be honest, I get fired for my 697 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 4: job because I've smoking weed and I don't think that's 698 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 4: a big issue, but because you know, people know who 699 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 4: they hired. But I digress. And it's just kind of like, hey, man, 700 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 4: like if you wanted somebody to be like that, why 701 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 4: don't you just take my I would I would be 702 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 4: okay if you just took my bong and just threw 703 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 4: it in the trash without me knowing, you know, if 704 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 4: you really wanted to beat with somebody like so, I 705 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 4: just feel like the person who I was with didn't 706 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 4: take the steps to really like appropriate the conditions. 707 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: They didn't like that you were smoking weed. 708 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 4: Man, No, they didn't, so like now do they they did? 709 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 1: They tell you? They tell you that you didn't they 710 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,479 Speaker 1: didn't like you smoking weed. 711 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 7: Yeah, but I was. 712 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 4: Just like, it's just so fucked up because like, I 713 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 4: don't I'm no contact with my family too, you know 714 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 4: how kids are or whatever, And I'm like no contact 715 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 4: with family, and then like people, I don't talk to 716 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 4: people either. I just kind of I just kind of 717 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 4: sit around and I don't I don't feel I don't 718 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 4: feel like I need to impress anybody. 719 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: All right, hm hmm. What how old are you? 720 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, in twenty eight eight. I have what's going on, 721 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 4: like outside of whatever we're talking about, Like, I have 722 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 4: other things I'm doing now that are more important. But 723 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 4: you know, it's kind of like, dang, like I really 724 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 4: wish that I would have somebody to hang out with 725 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 4: or at least or at least bring with me, you know, 726 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 4: to the place I'm going. 727 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 5: I guess, yeah, yeah, yeah, what you said, you have 728 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 5: other things going away to the other things. 729 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 7: A recruiter hit me up for the military Okay, So yeah, 730 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 7: I have a degree and stuff and whatever. I'm kind 731 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 7: of like I have a background and corrections. I guess, 732 00:41:55,239 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 7: like sort of paramilitary, so you know, all right, I 733 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 7: guess it's not unexpected. But they called me, and I'm like, 734 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 7: I wish I had somebody to bring with me. I 735 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 7: don't know if they're listening, but probably not. 736 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: You wish you had somebody to bring with you on 737 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: on military deployment. 738 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 7: Essentially, Yeah, let me ask you. 739 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: I am genuinely curious why you know in this particular 740 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: phone call, because I could sit here and like, do 741 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: you I'm guess, like, I guess I want to know 742 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: if there's a particular like preference for this phone call 743 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: because I could we could sit well, I'm only asking 744 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: is like we could I could sit here, we could 745 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: talk and I could we could attempt to uh create 746 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: solutions perhaps. 747 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not like, or we could just or 748 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 4: we could just. 749 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: Suck around, or we could just fuck around, or I 750 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: could or I could I just suck around? 751 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 4: Well all right, super ugly, I'm like pretty no, hold on. 752 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: Hold on, don't hold on, hold on, Why why are 753 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: you bringing that up? 754 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 4: Even you know, because like fuck man, I've the reason 755 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 4: I smoked weeds so much is because I just have 756 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 4: like the the behavior of other people and stuff in 757 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 4: the world, and then like my behavior versus that, you know, 758 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 4: uh okay, weed's legal in California, right, and so I'm 759 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 4: just like, fuck, yeah, I smoked weed all day, bro. 760 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 4: And then so like that's how I get around socially. 761 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 4: But then like now that the like it's not legal subterally, 762 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 4: so like I'm literally getting getting ripped apart right now. 763 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 4: I can't find a job, you know, And like I 764 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 4: thought it was something I was good, Like, I thought 765 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 4: we were good for it, and I'm like, yeah, dude, 766 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 4: like everyone's kind of relaxed. I was pretty chill, and 767 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 4: then now I have no chill, Like I've found myself 768 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 4: kind of like insulting people online. 769 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: Why are you? 770 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 2: Why are you? 771 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: No? You know? Please please? I don't look I don't 772 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: know you at all, but as a fellow, I would 773 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: love to one day. I really like a utopia would 774 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: look like one day I go on Reddit and all 775 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: the post there's no posts and there's no comments because 776 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: everyone got a life and went outside. That would make 777 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: me so happy. If I went on Reddit one day 778 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: and there was there was it was just blank. It 779 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: was like nothing to be seen because and then I 780 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: look outside and everyone's like playing catch with each other 781 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, drinking hot cocoa like every you know, 782 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: that's that's util right there, and so I that we 783 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: could start, you know, with you in that utopia. The 784 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: key why what do you? 785 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 3: What do you? What do you? 786 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 1: What are you insulting? What are you insulting people on 787 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 1: Reddit about? 788 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 4: You know, people need stimulation, whether it's bad or not. 789 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 4: But like you know, and it's like sometimes it's not 790 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 4: that good, but I do give that good stimulation. 791 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: What is your hold on what is your idea of 792 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: good stimulation? Are you call? Are you calling people fat 793 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:37,760 Speaker 1: on the internet? 794 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 4: Damn no, I'm just calling all right. 795 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 796 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,399 Speaker 4: I'm kind of losing it now, I'm kind of losing touch. 797 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 4: But I'll say this is that a lot of people 798 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 4: don't pay attention to what's going on. And I'm like, 799 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not one for it to be like 800 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 4: supportive of like drugs and stuff, but I will say 801 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 4: it's a problem. And then like, you know, uh, that's 802 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,839 Speaker 4: I think it's funny when I see homeless people. I 803 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 4: am sorry. I'm sorry, but. 804 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, Okay, just back up for me 805 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 1: real quick. Who are you fighting with on the internet. 806 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 4: I'll be I'll be saying stuff, you know, against like 807 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 4: whatever people people have, like I need I need this 808 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 4: to be happy. And it's like, dude, I don't even 809 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 4: smoke anymore, you know, And then it's like, okay, you 810 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 4: need you need drugs to be happy. And then all 811 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 4: of a sudden, I'm like, I will devote my entire 812 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 4: cause to defeating the illegal drug operations. 813 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, what's your name again? 814 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 2: Bob? 815 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 1: Bob? We have we, we are we. This conversation has 816 00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: leapt into a different and to a into Mars right now. Okay, 817 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna reel it. We're gonna reel We're gonna reel 818 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: it back to Earth. Okay, We're gonna reel this conversation 819 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: back to the the planet Earth. So you you know what, 820 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't actually care what you're arguing with people about 821 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: on the internet. To be honest with you, I'm curious, why, 822 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:27,839 Speaker 1: oh god, why do you like getting high all the time? 823 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: I know, I really I don't want to go on 824 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: a whole stupid because I can't go. I can't in 825 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 1: any sort of good faith sit here and tell you 826 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 1: to stop getting high because I get high every day. 827 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,320 Speaker 1: So I can't do that without being a total hypocrite. 828 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 1: But I do. But I just as a fellow human being. 829 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: And we're on the phone together right now. Just what 830 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm just curious. 831 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, man, I'm I'm just saying, 832 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I want to be 833 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 4: able to paper parking. Okay, you know what I'm saying. 834 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: That's a good goal. That's a great goal to have 835 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 1: to be able to pay for parking. I believe you 836 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: can achieve that. 837 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 6: And it's hard. 838 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 4: I can't pay for parking, you know, because people steal 839 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 4: my debit card. What I'm taking them out to dinner, 840 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 4: you know, and then that. 841 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 1: Card dude who stole who stole your debit card? When 842 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: you take them out to dinner? What are you talking about? 843 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 2: I don't fucking know. 844 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 6: It's gone. 845 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm like, I all, I'm like, hey, 846 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 4: why just left this place. 847 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:34,720 Speaker 6: I'm checking my wallet. 848 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 2: I can't pay for parking. 849 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:40,439 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. 850 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:40,879 Speaker 2: I don't know. 851 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,760 Speaker 1: It's okay, do me a favorite when when when I 852 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna this is, I'm gonna put this 853 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: in a podcast and put it on the internet. Don't 854 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: don't go into the comments section and argue with people. 855 00:48:53,760 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: Just just go just I just bob. Bob. Is your name. 856 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 2: Coop? You can call me Coop? 857 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 3: All right? 858 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: I like I like Coop. That's a fun name. Hmmm, 859 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: did you what did you have a time in your 860 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: life where you've like you felt. 861 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 2: Good, that's sucked up? 862 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 4: Well did you ask that? 863 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 6: Yeah? 864 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 4: I have, I have I have a good time sometimes. 865 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 2: I have a good time sometimes. 866 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 1: Man, okay, but you have a good time something? So 867 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: you so you you sometimes have a good time. 868 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 4: It but I have to pay for it, you know, 869 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 4: like I have to pay for friends to bring them 870 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 4: out because they have issues. And then it's like why 871 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 4: did they have issues? Are you fellon or you know? 872 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 4: I just wish people were not so terrible? 873 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 3: What do you? All? 874 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 1: Right? Hold on? 875 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 3: What? So? What? 876 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,399 Speaker 1: You two things? And and I this your I can 877 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 1: sense in your voice that you're about to take this 878 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 1: conversation back to Mars and we're keeping it. We're going 879 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 1: to keep it earth. Okay, what why are you who 880 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: are you paying to go out with you. 881 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 4: No, it's just like I need I need to like 882 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 4: I needed to go to like you know sometimes essentially 883 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 4: you know, it's like I was using the restroom right, 884 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,839 Speaker 4: Like sometimes I need to use the restroom mentally, right Yeah. 885 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, let me just hit these people 886 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,879 Speaker 4: up and see you and see like what I can 887 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 4: do to like get some social interaction. Yeah, you know. 888 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 4: And then like once you're once you're like I even 889 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 4: I had friends in high school, dude, I did, and 890 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 4: like it just I like cut myself off because I 891 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 4: just had it was a trust issue, like really bad 892 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 4: trust issue, you know. And then like they're talking about 893 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 4: I want to share, like bro, like that's my girl, 894 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 4: Like you're going to share or something, right, and so 895 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 4: like I just at that point, look yeah, I know. 896 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm like I'm gonna stop you again. 897 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 4: I'm not sharing women with other dudes. 898 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: Can I see? Do you have a real therapist that 899 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: you talk to? 900 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:12,479 Speaker 2: Yeah? 901 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 4: I went to therapy and this guy just had met 902 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 4: his iPad and then like he was like really gluttonous, 903 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 4: kind of like fatty boy, and I was like, all right, 904 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 4: I'm just. 905 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 1: Gonna walk out of here, okay, So yeah, so you 906 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 1: were like, so if you're so, if the therapist is fat, 907 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: You're like, you're up. You're kind of like, oh, why 908 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: am I gonna let you coach my life if you're 909 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: if you're. 910 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 4: Fat, well, I mean, dude looked like he was taking 911 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 4: medication for his own self. And I'm like, bro, like, 912 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 4: I don't go to a therapist, Like, look, it's fair. 913 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,439 Speaker 1: No one has answers no, no, yeah, yeah, I don't know, man. 914 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:53,839 Speaker 1: I just. 915 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 4: You're not my therapist either. 916 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 2: I'm not. 917 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: No, I'm not. I know, I'm not your say, I'm just. 918 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 1: I'm we're too. We are two complete strangers talking on 919 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 1: the phone together on a podcast right now. I understand 920 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 1: that to be the context. But I'm just and I'm 921 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 1: just but I'm. 922 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm I'm I just the thing I want the most. 923 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 4: If I was on this planet for as long as 924 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 4: I will be right, Yes, it is like I wish 925 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 4: I could cast a magical fucking spell due and just 926 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 4: at least have an inkling of my peace of mind 927 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 4: like just on like at least shown to somebody else, right, 928 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 4: or at least like a couple like some people right, 929 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 4: at least at least, like if if I had some 930 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 4: energy in my pot, in my in my person and 931 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 4: that energy was like projected, I guess that would be nice. 932 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, stare right there, stare right there, stare 933 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: right there. If you okay, you could, if you could 934 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 1: wave a magic wand you would have peace of mind 935 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: that was shared with another person. 936 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 4: Said at least at least one person. Okay, I mean 937 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 4: I don't know here. 938 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: I go, well, yeah, but like I mean, do you 939 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 1: have like do you do you have peace of mind already? 940 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 1: Because you can't have peace of mind to share with 941 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 1: another person if you don't have, like I guess, peace 942 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:44,360 Speaker 1: of mind. 943 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 3: You know. 944 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to be weird, but I'm 945 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 4: drinking this and this meat a lotta is really good. Yeah, 946 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 4: I've been drinking. 947 00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is a michta. 948 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 4: Well, you put a beer in a cup and there's 949 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 4: like a a rim of taking, and then they give 950 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 4: you some salt like whatever flavor, and you pour that 951 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 4: in a beer and you have a beer with some 952 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 4: salt and taking rim. 953 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:19,439 Speaker 3: It's pretty good. 954 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Alcohol will give you, it will definitely give you 955 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 1: temporary piece of mind and then you you but you 956 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,719 Speaker 1: kind of borrow the piece of mind. I don't, I don't. 957 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: You don't. I'm getting this. I don't really want to 958 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 1: go on a motivational fucking whatever thing. 959 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,879 Speaker 4: But Okay, we're trying our hardest out here. Okay, yeah 960 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 4: I know you are. Mm hmm, but yeah mm hmmm. 961 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,359 Speaker 1: Do give a job or what else do you work? 962 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 1: Do you work? 963 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 3: Dude? 964 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:56,439 Speaker 6: I can't. 965 00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 4: I saw two hundred applications, man, two hundred, and I 966 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 4: have a degree, and like I'm like, bro, okay, I smoke, 967 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 4: we I get it, but like who's who's fucking with me? 968 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:07,839 Speaker 3: Bro? 969 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 4: Like like why is there? Like is this someone on 970 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 4: my phone that's like part of like the I T 971 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:20,399 Speaker 4: Department And they're like, wow, this guy when he's we're weird, 972 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,479 Speaker 4: we're bringing him in. So don't give him a fucking job. 973 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 4: Let him do this and that and to make some money. 974 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 1: And then like you know, I'm sorry, I can, I can. 975 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 1: I fuck. I really don't want to try to go 976 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 1: on a mote. I like, I just I'm just trying 977 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: so hard. I just want to talk to you, and 978 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to go on a motivational rant. But 979 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: I have a little I just have a little thing 980 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,359 Speaker 1: that I want to. Can I go on a little 981 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 1: motivational rant, like a tiny one. 982 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:52,839 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm if it makes I mean, all right, you. 983 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,439 Speaker 1: Know what, you know what you know? Fine, all right, fine, fine, 984 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 1: I want, I want. 985 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,840 Speaker 4: Because I know I special place for me, man, I 986 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 4: have like a special place in my heart for you. 987 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 4: Thank you feel free? 988 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:13,919 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, listen, First of all, just say look, 989 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 1: and this is a thing across the fucking board. Uh 990 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: the it's just across the fucking board that yes, getting 991 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 1: a job is like, this is really hard. It's like 992 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 1: insanely fucking difficult. Even if you feel like two hundred 993 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:33,919 Speaker 1: motherfucking apple, it's like, annoy, it's really hard. I'm I'm 994 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 1: the most privileged individual on the planet that I can 995 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 1: do this stupid podcast and I don't have to do it, 996 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 1: but I know it's hard. I just if I the 997 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: only the thing that's fucking standing out to me in 998 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:54,760 Speaker 1: talking to you and is just that when you say 999 00:56:54,880 --> 00:57:00,400 Speaker 1: that like everything is terrible and people are terrible, and 1000 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 1: that's just what you're what that's just etched in this stone, 1001 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 1: that's just carved in stone into your brain. It's it's 1002 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: just what, It's just what it's just becomes your fucking reality. 1003 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,919 Speaker 1: It's just what you see. So if you walk around 1004 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 1: being like everyone is fucking terrible, then of course everyone 1005 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: ends up being terrible, and and there's a lot of 1006 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 1: like genuine like real life bad stuff, but there's also 1007 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 1: a good portion of it where it's like if you 1008 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 1: as long as if you're walking around trying to assume 1009 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 1: some form of positive attent of other positive intent of 1010 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 1: other people, you find it more than if you walk 1011 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 1: around assuming that everyone's terrible. That's it. That's the end 1012 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 1: of my vovational rant. No more motivational rants. 1013 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 4: Get and you're just saying positive about it. That's cool, 1014 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 4: not be not. 1015 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 1: Like not like fucking hey, everything's amazing, rainbows are awesome, 1016 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: life is good, isn't it good? Not like that, but 1017 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 1: just like, at least you don't have to do that, 1018 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 1: You don't have to walk around like a fucking teletubby, 1019 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 1: but just the opposite. But just don't do the opposite. 1020 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 1: Don't don't walk around like you're you know, because then 1021 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 1: then you're just fu you just prematurely fuck yourself. 1022 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, all right, cool. 1023 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 1: Well Bob, I'm gonna let you go back I mean, 1024 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 1: it was a cool talk. It was nice talking to you. 1025 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 6: Man. 1026 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 1: I hope you're I hope you're okay. I don't know you. 1027 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 1: I hope you're okay. I hope you're not going completely 1028 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 1: and I hope you're going I don't I hope you 1029 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 1: are not going more insane. I hope you're not going 1030 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 1: significantly more insane than the average person on the planet 1031 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 1: is going insane at this current time. 1032 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 4: I think it's okay to cry. I wanted to say 1033 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 4: something to the viewers to cry. I mean, just like, 1034 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 4: calm down, don't cry too much. But if you can't 1035 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 4: help it, fuck it. Just light it up. 1036 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well, have a good night, Bob, thanks for calling. 1037 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 4: Cheers, Yeah, Coop, Yeah, I'm gonna have this all right, cool, 1038 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 4: all right, take care, Coop, all right later. 1039 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 1: Up. It's good to cry. It's good to cry. Sometimes 1040 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 1: you cry. When is the last time I cried? I 1041 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 1: cried recently? Yeah? No, I cry a lot. I actually 1042 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 1: cry fairly often. No, cry, Oh my god, cry Yeah, cry, laugh, cry, uh, drink, 1043 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:54,439 Speaker 1: drink a diet coke, live for eighty years, and then 1044 00:59:55,280 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 1: pass away peacefully in your sleep, ideally rounded by at 1045 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 1: least one other human being if you can hack that. 1046 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: But even if not, this is fine. There's no this. Well, 1047 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's not a win lose life. Isn't 1048 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 1: it really a wind lose proposition? I don't think and 1049 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 1: those if you want it to be, I kind of 1050 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 1: want I kind of want it to be. I kind 1051 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 1: of want to do stuff, but I guess you don't 1052 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 1: have to do stuff. I don't know. I feel like 1053 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm okay now. I feel like I'm on Mars. But 1054 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 1: it's good. Maybe it's good to leave Earth now and 1055 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 1: then Hello, Hello, what's up man? How you doing? What's 1056 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:34,000 Speaker 1: your name? 1057 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 4: My name is Coal? 1058 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 1: Coal? 1059 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 3: What up? 1060 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 1: Coal? 1061 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1062 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 1063 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1064 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 6: I saw you. I saw you in l a kind 1065 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 6: of recently. I guess it was in like November. 1066 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,800 Speaker 1: Oh shit, Yeah that was ah Yeah that was fun. 1067 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: That was a good time. Those are fun shows. 1068 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 6: Yeah. I drove from I drove from Phoenix, Arizona. 1069 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 1: Where are you? Which one were you at? Do you 1070 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 1: remember anything that happened at the show? 1071 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 6: I think I was at Night two. 1072 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 1: Was that the one where the lady talked about having 1073 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 1: sex with Mark Zuckerberg and her dream? 1074 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:12,120 Speaker 6: Yes? 1075 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 1: It was okay, Yeah, that was interesting. 1076 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, that happened. 1077 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 1: So what's going on with you? 1078 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 3: Man? 1079 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:26,320 Speaker 2: Dude? 1080 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 6: I mean I've been watching your stream for years now 1081 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,080 Speaker 6: and I finally had the urge to call in because 1082 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 6: I don't know, life's just like a crazy, crazy journey 1083 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 6: and recently, recently, I feel like I've made a lot 1084 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 6: of big changes. That's just been really crazy. The catalyst 1085 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 6: of it all. The interesting thing is that I was 1086 01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 6: engaged to be married and now I'm not. So that 1087 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 6: was kind of really tough, but it ended up being 1088 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 6: like a catalyst for me to really get into like 1089 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 6: mindfulness and ship. 1090 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,160 Speaker 1: How long how long were you with this person for? 1091 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 1: Like how long are you like in total like dating 1092 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 1: and engage? 1093 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 2: Probably two years? 1094 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 1: Oh all right? Two years? 1095 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:33,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1096 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 1: And uh, do you want to talk about what happens? 1097 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1098 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 6: It was, I mean, it was an unfortunate situation. 1099 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 1: You know. 1100 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 6: It's it's one of those situations where you love the 1101 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:51,400 Speaker 6: person still, yeah, but you come to realize that you 1102 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 6: kind of just don't work together unfortunately. Yeah. And the 1103 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 6: crazy thing is we we separate after like a year 1104 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 6: and we ended up getting back together, and it's like 1105 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 6: we didn't learn our lesson, you know, like we tried 1106 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:12,800 Speaker 6: to just jump back in even though there were so 1107 01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 6: many issues, and we tried to like honeymoon face it 1108 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 6: out again and like forget about the issues that happened. 1109 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: You know, can I ask if you wanted, if you 1110 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 1: are cool to talk about them, Like what was the 1111 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,280 Speaker 1: main one or a couple of ones? 1112 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 6: Yeah? So yeah, what happened is I flirted with a girl. 1113 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 1: Oh no, I flirted. 1114 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 6: With a girl, right, And I was like feeling kind 1115 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 6: of weird about it. I was like, oh, you know, 1116 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 6: I definitely like flirted with this person while I was 1117 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 6: in this relationship, and I started journaling, so I journaled 1118 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 6: about it, you know, like I kind of feel shitty 1119 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 6: that I did this, you know, like it feels like cheating, 1120 01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 6: even though it wasn't physically doing something with someone. And 1121 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 6: what happened was my ex read my journal and then 1122 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,439 Speaker 6: I came home and she had moved out. 1123 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 1: This was, uh, this was a bit like the first 1124 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 1: time you guys got separated. Yeah, yeah, and then and 1125 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 1: then what was it? What was it that got you 1126 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:27,760 Speaker 1: back together? 1127 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 6: We did this thing you're not supposed to do where 1128 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 6: even though you're broken up, we kept having sex with 1129 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 6: each other. And that was not a very good thing 1130 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 6: to do, but we both participated in it and not 1131 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 6: very proud of it, but we kind of it was 1132 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,840 Speaker 6: just what was easy. Like we were both two lonely 1133 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 6: people who like, like I knew the right path for 1134 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 6: me was to like focus on myself and grow, but 1135 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 6: it was just like so easy to go back to 1136 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 6: what was familiar. 1137 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, uh yeah, I think, well, it's 1138 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,960 Speaker 1: like a human default nature. That's why I mean, that's 1139 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,040 Speaker 1: why people stay in like fucking like that's why people 1140 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 1: stay in like abusive relationships and shit like that is. 1141 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm talking about I'm talking, I'm talking about 1142 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 1: shit that I have, and I'm by the way, just 1143 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm just really want to iterate in this very moment 1144 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:30,040 Speaker 1: that I am talking publicly on a podcast to thousands 1145 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 1: of people about shit that I fucking don't know anything about. 1146 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 1: But why have a podcast if you're not gonna do that? 1147 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,560 Speaker 1: That's I think that's the whole point of having a podcast. 1148 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,960 Speaker 1: So uh but yeah, I think that's why people stay 1149 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,720 Speaker 1: in relationships like that is because it's just like complacency 1150 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 1: is just a fucking hell of a drug, and complacency 1151 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 1: is a hell of a drug, and it's always like, 1152 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think it's like human nature 1153 01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:59,960 Speaker 1: to just kind of do whatever the easiest, safest thing is, 1154 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, I think what most people do. 1155 01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:05,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, m hm. 1156 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 1: So whether or not that's good, I don't fucking know. 1157 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a I don't know anything. 1158 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 6: But yeah, at the time it felt good. At the time, 1159 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:21,640 Speaker 6: it felt good, But like I said, we kind of 1160 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,680 Speaker 6: jumped back into the relationship and that kind of lack 1161 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:31,560 Speaker 6: of trust remained kind of deep within our foundation. Sure, 1162 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 6: So you know, the thing that happened recently was I 1163 01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 6: was talking with a coworker, an ex coworker of mine 1164 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 6: that she wasn't comfortable with me talking to because this 1165 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:50,200 Speaker 6: was a woman, and you know, in my dumb man brain, 1166 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 6: I was like, I'm not interested in this person, so 1167 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 6: therefore it's okay. But it obviously brought up like hints 1168 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,320 Speaker 6: of the past for her, and her trust is with 1169 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 6: me talking to another girl. So yeah, it's it's so 1170 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 6: interesting that that kind of thing broke up an engagement. 1171 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 6: But you know, her finding out I had reached out 1172 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 6: to this ex coworker to see how they were doing. 1173 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:23,360 Speaker 6: That's what ended up uh, breaking it all down and. 1174 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 1: So what uh yeah, So I mean, do you still 1175 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:31,560 Speaker 1: talk to this lady that you were engaged with? No? 1176 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 6: She, Uh No, I haven't been able to reach out 1177 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:40,600 Speaker 6: with her. I called her a month ago. That was 1178 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 6: the last time I spoke with her. I kind of 1179 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:46,320 Speaker 6: really I kind of wanted some closure. And you know, 1180 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 6: my thing was, I wanted to get to a point 1181 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,480 Speaker 6: where I didn't want to call her out of necessity 1182 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:55,280 Speaker 6: because like, like after we broke up, I struggled with 1183 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,920 Speaker 6: anxiety and my panic attacks came back and I started 1184 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 6: having these panic attacks and I want it's so badly 1185 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,520 Speaker 6: to like call her to make it go away, and 1186 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 6: I didn't want to like use her. If that makes sense. 1187 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, feel better? 1188 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah because you yeah, because if 1189 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,760 Speaker 1: you do that, you open up a whole canno that 1190 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, there's no such thing as free. You can't 1191 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,120 Speaker 1: just like you know, she's like, you know, you can't 1192 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 1: just use it as like a band aid. It opens 1193 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,640 Speaker 1: up a whole can of worms. 1194 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 6: Yeah right, Yeah, So that was really hard. 1195 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 1: But go ahead, No, I don't have any go ahead. 1196 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 6: I was gonna say it was really hard, but what 1197 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,000 Speaker 6: got me through, like that hard time without reaching out 1198 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,680 Speaker 6: to her, which was you know, the crutch I was 1199 01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,600 Speaker 6: so used to was like just reaching out to my 1200 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:56,439 Speaker 6: family and friends. Yeah, which seems like so simple and stupid, 1201 01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,639 Speaker 6: but like I never really did. 1202 01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:03,559 Speaker 1: That before that, that's not I don't think that reaching 1203 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,880 Speaker 1: out to your family and friends is stupid. If you 1204 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:07,600 Speaker 1: told me, yeah, you know what I did is I 1205 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:13,680 Speaker 1: got I got, I got twelve MIC's hard lemonades, and 1206 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 1: I rammed them down until I forgot about my life. 1207 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,519 Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, that's a little simple and stupid. 1208 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:23,320 Speaker 1: But no, reaching out to your family and friends is 1209 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,760 Speaker 1: quite smart and good. I would say that is a 1210 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 1: smart and good method of doing what you are attempting 1211 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:31,639 Speaker 1: to do. 1212 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 6: I guess it's stupid stupid how simple it was? 1213 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,679 Speaker 1: Sure? Well, yeah, I guess it is a little stupid. Yeah, 1214 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 1: I guess it is like kind of funny that, like sure, sure, 1215 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:44,800 Speaker 1: Like you call your friend and you're like, oh, I 1216 01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:49,360 Speaker 1: should have just called my friend, you know, like, especially 1217 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 1: if you have some do your friends? Do you have 1218 01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 1: a lot of friends? 1219 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 6: I have some. Okay, I have a few core friends 1220 01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:02,720 Speaker 6: that I'm very grateful to have in my life. Like 1221 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,880 Speaker 6: I reached out to my cousin and this dude I 1222 01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 6: have known my whole life. He's my my fucking cousin, 1223 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,679 Speaker 6: you know. And it turns out like he's been struggling 1224 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,080 Speaker 6: with panic attacks his whole lives and it's just something 1225 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 6: we never talked about and just you know, calling him 1226 01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,040 Speaker 6: and being like, hey, like, how are you opened up 1227 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,400 Speaker 6: the door to have these like deeper conversations with these 1228 01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:29,040 Speaker 6: people I've been close with but have never really been 1229 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:29,840 Speaker 6: vulnerable with. 1230 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,760 Speaker 1: Bro do Yeah, that's the most vulnerable that I mean, 1231 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,320 Speaker 1: not vulnerable. That's the most valuable fucking thing that you 1232 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,960 Speaker 1: can do. If you're lucky enough to have people like 1233 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,720 Speaker 1: that in your life. I mean, those people will just 1234 01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:48,160 Speaker 1: save your Assay, those people will save your ass if 1235 01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:52,679 Speaker 1: if if you're lucky enough to have him in your life. 1236 01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,280 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's what I typically do when I'm 1237 01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,680 Speaker 1: going insane, as I call all of my friends and 1238 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 1: fans Emily and whatnot. Yes, when it's the most valuable 1239 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:09,880 Speaker 1: thing you can have. Yeah, sorry, I drank a lot. 1240 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,400 Speaker 1: I drank a lot of coffee before I started recording this, 1241 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:19,280 Speaker 1: and it's been about an hour something and I think 1242 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm getting to the point, you know, how like like, 1243 01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:26,960 Speaker 1: caffeine is just borrowing. It's really just borrowing energy. It's 1244 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,960 Speaker 1: it's you can that you never can create energy. You 1245 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:31,680 Speaker 1: can only well, I mean you can if you like 1246 01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:36,000 Speaker 1: eat lettuce and salmon. But you know, caffeine is he's 1247 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:40,160 Speaker 1: borrowed from the future. And I think I'm starting to 1248 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,519 Speaker 1: arrive at the future. And I'm sorry that's happening in 1249 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,679 Speaker 1: the middle of talking to you. But I just making 1250 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:52,120 Speaker 1: that clear in case if I start mumbling and stuttering 1251 01:11:52,320 --> 01:12:02,759 Speaker 1: and making no sense, that's what's your again, Man, I'm cool. 1252 01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:03,719 Speaker 4: Cool. 1253 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:05,880 Speaker 1: How old are you cool? 1254 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:08,000 Speaker 6: I'm twenty five. 1255 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:12,720 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, this is cool. I think this is 1256 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:16,320 Speaker 1: a good life experience. Probably you're learning how to be 1257 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 1: more vulnerable with the people who are already in your life. 1258 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 1: It's deepening your connections with them. Sounds like you're learning 1259 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,759 Speaker 1: a lot. Sounds like you're having making good skills. Again, 1260 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,400 Speaker 1: it's if you told me that you were coping by 1261 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,559 Speaker 1: you know, getting fucked up. There's worse ways to do it. 1262 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,599 Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I try to go outside and smell air, 1263 01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:44,920 Speaker 6: look at trees. It's really nice. 1264 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:52,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. Life is pretty uh pretty, it's pretty crazy. It's 1265 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,599 Speaker 1: pretty coral. I'm gonna say it, and you know what, 1266 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 1: I don't I say it's I really mean it every 1267 01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,840 Speaker 1: time I say it. I've never I've met you know what, 1268 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:04,760 Speaker 1: fucking Cole. I've never felt more in my fucking life. 1269 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,519 Speaker 1: And I say this with so much confidence, and I 1270 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:15,439 Speaker 1: mean it. I've never felt more. With every day older 1271 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,439 Speaker 1: I get that life is crazy. If I say that, 1272 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,840 Speaker 1: not it's not even a catchphrase any I just mean 1273 01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:26,720 Speaker 1: it and I feel it, and I I just I 1274 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,400 Speaker 1: just I just think life is crazy and I'm sorry, 1275 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,040 Speaker 1: but I'm also not because it is. 1276 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,479 Speaker 6: Do you think that's part of the human experience that 1277 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:42,520 Speaker 6: everyone experiences, that gradual increase of craziness. 1278 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:42,880 Speaker 1: No? 1279 01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,400 Speaker 6: Do you think there's a certain path that allowed you 1280 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,120 Speaker 6: to have this clarity? 1281 01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 1: I think, I think, I'm I think, I mean, I 1282 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,320 Speaker 1: think I've been very uh lucky in my life to 1283 01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:59,120 Speaker 1: experience that, to to feel like life is crazy. But 1284 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:03,599 Speaker 1: I also think think that you don't need a lot 1285 01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,559 Speaker 1: to feel like life is. I mean, I like sitting, 1286 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:11,120 Speaker 1: if you're like having, you know, sitting at a standing 1287 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,240 Speaker 1: like you could go into a convenience store and buy 1288 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,800 Speaker 1: a bottle of water and stand outside and drink it. 1289 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,120 Speaker 1: And and look around and be like, whoa life is crazy? 1290 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:22,519 Speaker 3: You know? 1291 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,320 Speaker 1: You know it's not a lot. 1292 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,800 Speaker 6: I don't you're talking. I have an experience every time 1293 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,160 Speaker 6: I go to a gas station and I'm like waiting 1294 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:36,800 Speaker 6: for my gas to finish, and I look around, I'm like, 1295 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,040 Speaker 6: this is a gas station. 1296 01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,320 Speaker 1: What is this fucking podcast anymore? 1297 01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:41,400 Speaker 3: What? 1298 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:46,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing anymore? Are you all right? 1299 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:47,160 Speaker 3: You know what? 1300 01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:52,880 Speaker 1: Cole? I'm glad you know what, Cole. I'm not worried 1301 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:54,479 Speaker 1: about you. I think you're gonna be all right. I'm 1302 01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:55,280 Speaker 1: not worried about you. 1303 01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:00,599 Speaker 6: I really appreciate that. Can I tak one more thing? 1304 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:07,120 Speaker 6: When I started listening to the podcast, I was still 1305 01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:11,439 Speaker 6: looking for love, and I had this habit of where, 1306 01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,280 Speaker 6: if I had I was lucky enough to meet up 1307 01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:20,080 Speaker 6: with someone off tender or whatever the fuck, I would 1308 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:24,320 Speaker 6: like leave early because I like my own bed, and 1309 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,280 Speaker 6: I'd hop in my car and I would turn on 1310 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,960 Speaker 6: Therapy Get Go, and I would go buy a large 1311 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,800 Speaker 6: milkshake and a large fry from Wiler Burger, and I 1312 01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,519 Speaker 6: would drink my milkshake and my eat my fry, and 1313 01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 6: I'd listen to therapy. Gecko from my draft home. 1314 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,000 Speaker 1: I am I'm happy. 1315 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:44,759 Speaker 6: I don't know why I'm sharing that with you. 1316 01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:49,080 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm I'm I'm happy to I'm happy 1317 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,680 Speaker 1: to be part of your post sex driving home to 1318 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 1: get food. Ah. 1319 01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't want to say it that way. 1320 01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:57,120 Speaker 3: But. 1321 01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm on, I'm on. You know what that's I I'm 1322 01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 1: really happy. I'm really honored to fit right into that 1323 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,200 Speaker 1: little part of your life. That's a nice little place 1324 01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:09,000 Speaker 1: for me to be. 1325 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,519 Speaker 6: I just want you to know there's no particular reason. 1326 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 6: It's just it happened and in it and it's stuck. 1327 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,760 Speaker 1: Every time I come, I gotta listen to therapy, get 1328 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,920 Speaker 1: go and drink a large milkshake. I don't know why, 1329 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:32,200 Speaker 1: but it's my post coom routine. Yeah all right, Well 1330 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:33,400 Speaker 1: you have a good rest of the night, Cole. 1331 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,320 Speaker 6: You two while thank care bye. 1332 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:41,360 Speaker 1: What a burger is good as hell? They have? I 1333 01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,120 Speaker 1: don't shit, I don't know if this is fat burger 1334 01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:44,639 Speaker 1: or what a burger? I think it's what a burger 1335 01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:48,360 Speaker 1: that has the Doctor Pepper milkshake. I'm a big fan 1336 01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,480 Speaker 1: of that Doctor Pepper milkshake. 1337 01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:58,880 Speaker 7: Goes on the line every night everything, And I was 1338 01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,439 Speaker 7: teaching you a loud look like but he's not really 1339 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:03,440 Speaker 7: an expert.