1 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: Healthcare coverage from Farm Bureau Health Plans is like an 3 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: extra set of pads when you meet them the most. 4 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: They've been protecting Tennesseeans for seventy five years. I'm Mike 5 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: Keith and our special guest, the great one himself, the 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: legend Jim Wise from Tennessee Titans dot Com, Senior writer editor, 7 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: sitting in for Amy Wells. Welcome, Jim Wyatt. Glad to 8 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: be here. I appreciate the intro. I'm not worthy of that. 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: You are totally worthy. You are a legend, and we 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: are thrilled to have you on the Official Titans Podcast, 11 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: The ot people love you. They make it clear every 12 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: time you're on they enjoy it very much. By the way, 13 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: Amy Wells and baby and husband and everybody doing well. 14 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: We look forward Damy being back sometime in the near future. 15 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: I just wanted to give everybody an update because many 16 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: people have been asking everybody is great. I know people 17 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: are following her and having a chance to look at 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: that beautiful daughter, and so that's been exciting for all 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: of us as well. But Jim Wyatt, you are a 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: worthy replacement you Pop News already on this Thursday. We 21 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: know what the dates and the times are for the 22 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: Titans preseason games. Yeah, and we knew the first one already, 23 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: the Baltimore game, which is gonna be six thirty on Thursday, 24 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: August the eleventh. We now know the Tampa Bay game 25 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: is a Saturday kickoff at six pm on August the twentieth, 26 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: and the Arizona game is a Saturday, August twenty seventh, 27 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: kickoff at six pm. Now what we don't know yet 28 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: is info about potential joint practices with the Buccaneers and 29 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, something that Mike Vrabel talked about at the 30 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: owners meetings. You know when those might take place, what 31 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: it might look like from a fan perspective during camp. 32 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: Those are things that we're still gonna have to continue 33 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: to wait on. I would suspect the days would be 34 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Thursday, day off preseason games Saturday, but well, 35 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes. So what we know for 36 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: the two home preseason games Saturday at sixth Central, the 37 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: twentieth for Tampa and the twenty seventh for Arizona. So 38 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: if you're planning to come to the preseason games, then 39 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: that's a great time. Six o'clock is a great time 40 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: if you're in the Nashville area, if you're in the 41 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: Memphis area, the Knoxville area, Chattanooga, coming from Kentucky or Alabama, 42 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: it's a it's a good time to come. And your 43 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: kids are grown and my kids are grown. But I 44 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: advised somebody again last night at the Titans Foundation dinner 45 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: because they asked me, they said, I have a young child. 46 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: I said, listen, preseason is a great thing with kids 47 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: because it is a great time to try it out, 48 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: to test run, to let them see how loud it 49 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 1: is and how interested they are and how many times 50 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: they got to go to the concession standing, how many 51 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: times they got to go to the bathroom. And because 52 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: there's no stress due to the ball game, you're right 53 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: and you get a chance to see a lot of 54 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: guys as you're not going to see otherwise. Because you know, 55 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: this is a time when we're nearing roster cuts. Some 56 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: roster cuts have been made. You know, we still don't 57 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: know for sure what the training camp fans sketch will 58 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: looks like. And because of ongoing construction, because of the 59 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: construction has taking place, the second wing is big. It 60 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: sits right where a bunch of stands used to sit. 61 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: Parking is limited here now we don't have the spaces 62 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: that we had in years pass, so even with some 63 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: of our neighbors, right, So it's hard to make promises 64 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: on what's going to be available as far as training 65 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: camp viewing. But this is one thing you know, is 66 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: you've got a couple of preseason games, is Tom Brady play. 67 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: I can't promise anybody that is Kyler Murray playing. Can't 68 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: promise you boy that And you know, from Titan's perspective, 69 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: you just don't know exactly what it's gonna look like either. 70 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: But but it is a great opportunity to get in 71 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: the stadium, you know, see live action and h and 72 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: as not as not as stressful. Now, I like the 73 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: six o'clock start because we get out of a little 74 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: bit earlier as well get home. And yeah, it did 75 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. So six o'clock Central. So the 76 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: Baltimore preseason game in Baltimore is a Thursday night. It's 77 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: a seven thirty Eastern, six thirty Central. But I've already 78 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: checked Jim Wyatt. If you're going in on Wednesday, Toronto 79 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: at Baltimore at Camden Yards. You got baseball. I actually 80 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: looked at that myself. How about that? Yeah, maybe catch 81 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: a little Major League baseball. That's a great trip to. 82 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: People are always dumbfounded when they say to me, where 83 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: is your favorite place to go on the road, and 84 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: Baltimore is top three, and they're like, waite, you guys 85 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: have had this rivalry with Baltimore. We hate the ravens 86 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: that I love the Baltimore trip because I like where 87 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: our press box booth is. It's a great viewing booth. 88 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: I love the places to go eat in Baltimore. I 89 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: love the inner Harbor, I love Camden Yards, the fan 90 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: base there. They're serious business. I don't know how it's serious. 91 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: They'll be in the preseason. But it's a real NFL 92 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: city with a real NFL feel, and it's very different 93 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: from anything around here in terms of the you know, 94 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: the inner harbor and the places to eat and the 95 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: places to go. It's it's not the Wire, you know, 96 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,679 Speaker 1: It's it's not it's a it's a neat, neat town. 97 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: And you can go to Annapolis, which, if you've never 98 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: been to Annapolis, one of the most beautiful places in 99 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: the United States of America. It's a good spot. And 100 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: so if you were thinking about taking a preseason trip, 101 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: especially if you like Major League Baseball, great thing to 102 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: do it is, I mean, and if you're still I mean, 103 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: I guess schools are back, you know August the eleven, 104 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: that's still in a stage. Maybe maybe some schools are 105 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: not backs. You can get a late summer vacation. Maybe 106 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: you can go there a little bit earlier. True, and uh, 107 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: hit DC because you can you can either fly into 108 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: restraint to DC and then driving to Baltimore or in 109 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 1: fly to BWI. I do agree with you from everything 110 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: from the press box location, great site lines there. I 111 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: really like that stadium. I think the video boards are good. Uh. 112 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: You know, they used to serve crab cake in the 113 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: press box at halftime. I don't know that they do 114 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: that on a consistent basis anymore. But you can get 115 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: great food in the Inner Harbor. Uh, Fell's Point area. 116 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if people are familiar with that. It's 117 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: a real trendy place I like to run when I 118 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: go to different cities, and it's got a tremendous running 119 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: path right along the I guess the Inner Harbor. Uh 120 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: that that is going to hopefully be great that time 121 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: we're there. Baltimore is a pretty cool city. Yeah, obviously, 122 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: you get, you stray, just like anybody anywhere else you stray, 123 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: maybe outside of some places that can get a little 124 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: bit rough any major city, Yeah sure, But but I 125 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: enjoy going and and even if it's just a preseason game. Yeah, 126 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 1: I think fans they're probably still going to get worked 127 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: up over the Titans coming to town. Yeah, probably so, 128 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: but I really I love it. And so let me 129 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: throw this one at you, since we have the great 130 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: Jim Wyatt on the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans, 131 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: if you could send a Titans fan to any road 132 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: game this year, and let's take out Green Bay, Okay, 133 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: because I think Green Bay's the obvious one for a 134 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: lot of people that they want to go. And quite frankly, 135 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of opportunities at Green Bay unless 136 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: you're willing to pay an arm at a leg for tickets, 137 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: because it's one of the few venues in any sport 138 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: in this country that sells out. You know, essentially it's 139 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: the University of Alabama and the Green Bay Packers and 140 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: everywhere else you can generally get a ticket. Let's take 141 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: Green Bay out of the equation. And I'd say that 142 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: you were sending a Titans fan. They came to you 143 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: and they said, the great Jim Wyatt, tell me where 144 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: should I go to see a Titans game on the 145 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: road this year? Where's your pick? I'd say, La, go 146 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: go see so Far Stadium, see the Chargers. Take advantage 147 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: of the you know, Los Angeles, California weather in December, 148 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: That's where I'd say go. I mean, obviously DC, if 149 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: you hit the Baltimore trip down the preseason, like we're 150 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: encouraging people to do, you don't necessarily feel like you 151 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: have to go to Washington in October. If you take 152 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: care of that daily double and do DC, then Washington 153 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: is it's a good trip, but it's I don't know 154 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: that it would be at the top of my list. 155 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: Any is a great drive trip if you're coming from Nashville. 156 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: My wife and son made the easy drive up there 157 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: last year and went. You come back and be back 158 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: in school the next day. But if I'm if I'm 159 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: making a destination trump, it would be to see so 160 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: Far see the Titans play the Chargers on Sunday. Tomb 161 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: of the eighteenth. I was hoping that would be a 162 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: September October time on the schedule for baseball reasons as well. 163 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: Got there and check a couple of Dogga games out 164 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: that didn't work out, but you can't. You can never 165 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: go wrong with a trip to Los Angeles at any 166 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: time of year. I agree. I think the December trip 167 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: is a good one. I was impressed with so far. 168 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure they figured out some of the ingress egress 169 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: issues they had last year. We parked like a mile away, 170 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: so it didn't feel so bad after we kick the 171 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: snot out of them that we were able to walk. 172 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: But I mean, it was a long walk back to 173 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: the car, and they admitted at the time they were 174 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: figuring all of that out. But it's a it's a 175 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: great complex. I think the stadium is is cool. It's 176 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: not my favorite stadium, but the whole complex is fantastic. 177 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: It is, I mean, and it's it's not like, you know, 178 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: Nashville still you compare Nashville to some other cities. It's 179 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: a great place to get down town early, hang out. 180 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: It gets something to eat, you know, stopping one of 181 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: the honky tonks, just kind of hang around the area 182 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: and then walk over the bridge and you're at the stadium. 183 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: So far is a little bit different in that regard 184 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: because it's in Englewood, so if you're going, you're going 185 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: to the game, but also some stuff going on on 186 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: the outskirts. I didn't take advantage of it as much 187 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: on that trip as far as just walking around and 188 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: seeing the perimeter of the place. I got dropped off 189 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: but an Uber driver and then I took an uber 190 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: either at night to catch a red eye coming back 191 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: from that night game. But I know the grounds are 192 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: beautiful and the stadium is just sprawling stadium inside. Yeah, 193 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: it's a place you It's like Jerry World in Dallas. 194 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: It's a place you want to see. Yes, if you're 195 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: a sports fan and you're having a conversation with your buddies, 196 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: it's a place you want to be able to say, 197 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: I've gone to a game. Yeah, And it's and it's 198 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: huge and a lot of Titans fans where they're like 199 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: Titans have a lot of fans in California. That to 200 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: California Titans fan group always has huge pep rillies before 201 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: the game, got you know, gathering parties. I'm sure they'll 202 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: do that on the Saturday night before that game. So 203 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: it's it's a neat atmosphere, cool stadium. Get to La 204 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: a couple of days early, enjoy that and so that's 205 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: that's what makes that number one on my list. All right, 206 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: let's touch on the Titans Foundation dinner. First time we've 207 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: ever done a Titans Foundation dinner. Hard to believe that 208 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: it's taken us this long, but it was very successful, 209 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: raising over a quarter million dollars and still figuring, you 210 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: know what that final total is going to be for 211 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: the Titans Foundation, which serves schools and charities and you know, 212 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: partners that need the help in different ways all over 213 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: our region. So really a great turnout, nearly five hundred 214 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: people on hand, massive night overall. What jumped out to 215 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: you about the dinner? It was great. I mean I 216 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: thought everybody was on stage, was very entertaining, very relaxed. 217 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: You know. I thought Javan and Keith kicking it off. 218 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: You know, I always like hearing stories about them and 219 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: hearing Keith talk about how much he's been embraced by 220 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: the Titans fan base, and that's what encouraged him to 221 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: kind of stay here and raise his family here talking 222 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: about Keith Bullock. Yeah, I thought that was great, and 223 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: then it was neat to kind of see those guys 224 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: jump into that Houston trup, one of the one of 225 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: the one of the auction items that drew a pretty 226 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: big number. So I enjoy hearing those. The Robert Woods 227 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: interview that Charles Davis did was great, and I could 228 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: tell that fans encourage you to call him Bobby Trees. 229 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: They did, they sat on so Charles set me up. 230 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: Charles last question to Robert Woods was when you score 231 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: your first Titans touchdown on Titan's radio, should it be 232 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: touchdown Robert Woods or touchdown Bobby Trees. And so Robert 233 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: Woods let the crowd decide would it be his real 234 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: name or would it be his fantastic nickname? And it's 235 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: pretty overwhelming. It's gonna be the nickname, yes, and uh 236 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: so fans love that. I think at one point you 237 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: even called him, you know, Robert Woods again and kind 238 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: of galler react. Yeah. The women in the friend who 239 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: had been drinking shouted me down every time I mentioned 240 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: Robert Woods. They yelled Bobby Trees at me. It's like, finally, 241 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: just okay, we got it. So they were having a 242 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: good test they were. I think there were two things 243 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: that's me. The program was a little less than two hours, 244 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: which I love. I don't like a long program. I 245 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: don't think anybody wants to sit through, you know, some 246 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: sort of epic. You know, we're watching the Titanic or something. 247 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: I think they want they want to have some fun, 248 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: get in, get out. I thought the crowd had a 249 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: great time. I have been to very few of those 250 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: programs where a crowd had a better time than that 251 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: crowd had. Yeah, it was great, and uh, you know, 252 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: I thought John and Mike very relaxed. I thought Jake 253 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: Owen did a good job in the three Naville Tennessee 254 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, so they you know, they pulled Jake 255 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: Owen up and he does three songs and people are like, 256 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: this is Jacob. I mean everybody's looking around, going this 257 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: is Jake going. Yeah. Yeah, so he did well. I 258 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: thought the turnout was great. I thought the enthusiasm for 259 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: the for the auction was great. And um, I only 260 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: regrets I didn't try that bread pudding. I stood by 261 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: the bread pudding during the course work. I was working, 262 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: but there was a time when I was kind of 263 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: standing there and listening and had my tape recorder when 264 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: I was talking to Charles after he got off stage, 265 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: and the bread pudding was right there, and I thought 266 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: about getting a plate and a fork and kind of 267 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: helping pass the time eating the bread pudding right into it, 268 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: and regretted on the way home. Well, Charles Davis is, 269 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: of course a guy that we value and consider a 270 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: friend CBS Sports and NFL Network. He is going to 271 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: be back to do Titans preseason games again this year. 272 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: We're excited about that, and we asked him to come 273 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: in and be part of the program just to sort 274 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: of add to the specialness of the evening. We wanted 275 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: to do something a little different, so we let him 276 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: interview Robert Woods, Bobby Trees, and and I thought that 277 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: was just fantastic too. I thought, I thought, this is cool. 278 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: It's just Charles David's interviewed me. You know, yeah, that 279 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: was good. It was good. It's cool to see the 280 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: rookie class there. I know a handful of guys couldn't 281 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: make it because they were at the Rookie premiere, but 282 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: it's good to see those guys. They're very able. Having 283 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: a little fun with them. Um, I thought it was 284 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: a great night and Charles, you know, I stood and 285 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: watched the second half of it once Charles were off 286 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: the stage with him. And he's just such a nice guy. 287 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: I mean, so many people approached him, wanted pictures, had 288 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: a few words for him. He takes time to ask 289 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: people their name, where they're from. Um, you know, very 290 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: genuine guy and you you learned that by being around him. 291 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: So Mike and John both wanted to do something different, 292 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: and so Mike wanted to show plays from last year 293 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: that illustrated on big plays, how many efforts you need 294 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: to have in order for a big play to happen, 295 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: because that's what he emphasizes to the football team. He 296 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: was very specific about what he wanted. We went back 297 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: and forth picking plays and it was really interesting. There 298 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: were three offensive plays. Derrick Henry run, a Dontrelle Hilliard run, 299 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: and then the Ryan Tannehill play where he escaped in 300 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: Houston and through the past downfield of Nick Westbrook a 301 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: keena which set up the final touchdown special teams play 302 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: in the New Orleans game, Dylan Cole with a big 303 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: hit on a kickoff after he had been double team 304 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: blocked to the ground. He got up and made the hit, 305 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: and then a great recovery by Torry Carter, and then 306 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: four defensive plays. Obviously Big Jeff's involved, Elijah Molden's involved, 307 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Byard's involved, but it was interesting to see him 308 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: break down. Okay, the Ola A Daney sack in overtime 309 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: at Seattle, which should have been a safety, happened because 310 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: the coverage was so good. And I found that fascinating 311 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: because I had not watched that play or any of 312 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: those plays in that way and the way he watches football. 313 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, look at the block Nick Westbrook a 314 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: Keen has got on the Derrick Henry run. Or look 315 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: at Kevin Byard's coverage here, or look at this pass 316 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: rush from Bud Dupree for which they get no statistical credit, 317 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: but it's still a good play. Yeah, And that's kind 318 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: of what he's all about. I think it's what he preaches. 319 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody is involved in every play. Everybody makes 320 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: a difference when something good happens. You know, we all 321 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: have been around Mike Rabel long enough to know he's 322 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: not a fan of, you know, singling out guys. I mean, 323 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: it's a team effort, even when it doesn't look like 324 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: it sometimes, And all those plays that you mentioned and 325 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: all the ones that were highlighted, you know, we're a 326 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: perfect example of what teamwork is all about. And you know, 327 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: and I think that's how when you preach that mentality 328 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: and your style of play, you got everybody working together 329 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: and everybody kind of applauding one another when things go right. 330 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: So in John Robinson's segment, I had challenged him when 331 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: we sat down to dis us what the part of 332 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,239 Speaker 1: the program was going to be, I said, people are 333 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: fascinated with the GM thing that people are just I am. 334 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: I never wanted to be a coach. Would I be 335 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: a GM That would be interesting? And I think a 336 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: lot of people are like that, maybe because they're into 337 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: fantasy football or they like the draft or whatever. But 338 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: the part of what he does that fascinates me is 339 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: how they get to that point to make their decisions. 340 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: I would love to be in a room and listen 341 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: to this guy can do this, and this guy can 342 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: do this or he can't do this because how I 343 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: watch a game and how they watch a game. It's 344 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: totally different, right it is. And I think that'd be 345 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: a hard job to do because I watched these guys 346 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: and we all do, you know, we stand on the 347 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: practice field and watch games, and when you're comparing one 348 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: guy to the next, just a lot of them are 349 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: very close. And what they do from a from a 350 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: talent stampoint, from a skill set stampoint. But what are 351 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: the particular things you look for in picking player A 352 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: over player B. You know, because a lot of these 353 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: guys look like they're exploding off the ball to me, 354 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: a lot of them looking fast, a lot of their 355 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: movement skills look very similar. But there's a little small 356 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: detail pieces that they identify in selecting players. And sometimes 357 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: you're right, sometimes you're wrong, but it's it's a fine 358 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: line there and picking these guys. So I've known John 359 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: for a long time like you have, and I knew 360 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: that there was no way in the world that he 361 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: was going to show us what they liked about trailing 362 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: Burke's on tape or Roger mccrarry or Malik Willis. He's 363 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: not going to do that with the rookies. And for 364 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. The main one is he's not 365 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: gonna do one of the rookies and not do all 366 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: of them because they're not going to single out a game. 367 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: So I said, what if we did Harold Landry. Okay, 368 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: you drafted him, He's been here four years, he's played 369 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: his off, he's a pro bowler, and you've just signed 370 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: him to a new contract. So you've said he's good 371 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: by signing him to the new contract. I would like 372 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: to see what you saw in Harold Landry on his 373 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: Boston College table, John embraced it. I was so thrilled, 374 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: And when I looked at the crowd last night, he 375 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: showed six plays, very different plays from Harold Landry and 376 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: what they saw playing in space, rushing from the left side, 377 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: rushing from the right side, rushing in the middle, different 378 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: moves that he made. And when I looked at the 379 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: crowd last night, I was amazed how transfixed they were 380 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: on what John was looking for in Harold that he 381 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: saw and those traits that allowed Harold to become Harold. 382 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: That part of it was just different and fascinating, and 383 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: I was worried it was too quote unquote inside baseball. 384 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I thought, you know, people 385 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: might like to see this, and I think they did. Yeah, 386 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: I think so too. I think people, you know, you 387 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: could watch these guys. You know, most time people are 388 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: watching games on CBS or ESPN and they're watching, you know, 389 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: see how plays unfold, see how who makes the tackle, 390 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: see what you know, seeing the biggest highlights of certain plays. 391 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: But when you're focused on one guy and you're looking 392 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: exactly what he's doing, how he's coming off the ball, 393 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: how he's doing in one man on man combat, how 394 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: he's finishing, I think you get a detail there that 395 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: you probably don't normally don't get when you're watching tape 396 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: or you're watching a game. So I think it's good 397 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: at John and John has done this a whole life. 398 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean he's he's been evaluating these players. He knows 399 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: exactly what to look for, so you're kind of getting 400 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,239 Speaker 1: a little sneak peek in his world. Well, we were 401 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: trying to do something in the program that was different. 402 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: We were trying to show people, and introducing the rookies 403 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: was fantastic. I love introducing the rookies. The crowd likes 404 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: the rookies being there, and I think that the young 405 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: men did a great job and it kind of gives 406 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: them an idea of what this is gonna be like. 407 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: I think they're kind of like boy, people are disinterested 408 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: on May the eighteenth, very interested in THEO Jackson too. Yeah, 409 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: they kind of like THEO Jackson. How did you think 410 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: THEO Jackson did in the Rookie Mini Camp. I thought 411 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: he did really well. I mean I did a piece 412 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: on I guess the Monday after the It was really good, 413 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: by the way, thank you, and it just kind of 414 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: broke down each guy, and I thought he's one of 415 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: the ones that stood out both days, especially Saturday, had 416 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: the interception and had another one. You know, he seemed 417 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: like he knew what he was doing. Impressed with him, 418 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: you know, from him media session after at the end 419 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: of that Rookie Mini camp. He just seems like it's 420 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: very mature and and willing to take on whatever they're 421 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: gonna put on his plate. And we'll see what that 422 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: ends up being him. I hear a lot of people 423 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: comparing him to Dame Crookshank as he filling that role. 424 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: You know, it took a while for Dane Crookshank really 425 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: to settle in. I mean, he had to deal with injuries. 426 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: He was good at the end, and now he's obviously 427 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: moved on to somewhere else. But lot's going to be 428 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: up to up to him as far as how much 429 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: he proves he can do early. But I thought he 430 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: got off to a great start. Dane's a little bigger, 431 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: not a lot, I mean, because Theo's bigger than I 432 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: thought he was. He's six one and a half nearly 433 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: two hundred pounds. Dane six two two ten. Dane kind 434 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: of looks like a lineback. Yes, I don't think THEO 435 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: is the natural athlete that Dane is in terms of 436 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: the forty time and the thing. I mean, Dane is 437 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: an exceptional athlete. I think THEO Jackson is a better 438 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: natural football player. And I really thought the staff at 439 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: Tennessee last year did an amazing job with him, in 440 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: particular the defensive coordinator Ten Banks and the secondary coach 441 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: Willie Martinez, because this was a guy who he didn't 442 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: really have a role, and they went to him and 443 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: they said you're going to be the leader of the secondary, 444 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it's like he just decides 445 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: this is gonna happen. I mean, Jim a year ago, 446 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: he didn't get drafted. I mean he didn't even get 447 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: invited to the combine. This year, he didn't get invited 448 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl. That was how late his progression 449 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: was in the process. And yet if you watched him 450 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: play this fall, he showed up in every single game 451 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: for Tennessee, no matter who the opponent was, and he 452 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: played with a swagger. It was like he thought he 453 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: was Eric Barry. Do you remember watching Eric Barry. Eric 454 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: Berry was a guy who expected to make every play. Well, listen, 455 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: THEO Jackson is not Eric Berry talent wise, Eric Berry 456 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: is a generational talent. But I'm saying in his mind 457 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: he thought he was. And as a defensive back, thinking 458 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,239 Speaker 1: you're good is vital. Yeah, and he shot. I mean, 459 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: and he works out of too. He knows where to be. 460 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you could tell even in the rookie camp 461 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: that he was you know, he had studied, he was 462 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: in the right place, played the star position. I guess 463 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: in Tennessee, which I guess is a combination of what 464 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: corner line, biker safety. They lined him up everywhere. They 465 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: blitzed him. They put him on tight ends, they put 466 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: him on running backs out of the backfield, they put 467 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: him on wide receivers. I mean, he's really probably a 468 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: safety's he's realistically, he probably doesn't have enough twitch as 469 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: they like to say, and enough long speed to be 470 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: a corner. But he's just kind of like Elijah Molden. 471 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: He's one of those dudes that's just gonna show up. Yeah, 472 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: I think I have some interesting decisions there. I mean, 473 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: competition is gonna be fun to watch because of Molden 474 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: that you mentioned, and because of you know, Christian Fulton 475 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: coming back and with Caleb Farley questions about his health 476 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,239 Speaker 1: and where he's going to be in the competition. One 477 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: of the other guys I thought, the stud out in 478 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: the rookie campus, Roger McCreary, I thought he was really good. 479 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: So two of the highlights to me from that camp 480 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: with the DBS, and there's some self is gonna need 481 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: to be sorted out here over the next couple of months. 482 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: But that's good. Yes it is. I compared the second 483 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: and dairy back to another and Jim and I are 484 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 1: both baseball fans, so you'll have to pardoners. Jim Wyatt, 485 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: our guest on the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans, 486 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: I compared the secondary to your bullpen. You can never 487 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: have enough guys to come in and throw left handed 488 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: in a bullpen. Ever, you could say, well, we don't 489 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: need another left hander. You always need one more and 490 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: in the secondary you always need more talent, which is 491 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: why I thought taking McCrary was so smart. Yeah, and 492 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: people have questioned that, like when you're picking in the 493 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: second round, A lot of people were after the draft. 494 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: Is why you're taking a corner there? Is it? Because 495 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: Farley's not going to be ready, and you know, I 496 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: guess Tom will tell where Farley is from a health standpoint, 497 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: but even if he is ready, I mean, you need 498 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: to have depth there. I remember first covering the team. 499 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: You know the way Floyd Rees used to talk, and 500 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: you can never have enough corners back there. So you 501 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: know the competition is going to include kayleb Forty, Kristin Fulton, 502 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: Chris Jackson's going to be in the med and he's 503 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: not gonna go away, No he's not. And then McCurry, 504 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: Elijah Moldham bust a screen in there. I didn't even mention, 505 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, Greg Mabin. So I think you're starting off 506 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: from a pretty good point there as far as numbers, 507 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: and we'll just have to sell how the competition plays out. 508 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: But I mean, look around the AFC, look around the NFL, 509 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: at what you're dealing with on the other side of 510 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: the football. And we have covered some teams that were 511 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: not real strong in the secondary and we saw what 512 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: happened to some of those teams, and you give up 513 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: a lot of points, can't get off the field. I 514 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: think this is gonna be a competitive group. I think 515 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: it's a well skilled group and I think it's going 516 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: to be interesting to see how it shakes out and 517 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: who who earns the right to be on the field, 518 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: and not only the starting spots, but in nickel dime, 519 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 1: you know, extra dB packages. You know. It stands out 520 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: about this draft class, in this rookie class to me, Jim, 521 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: they're not young. None of them are twenty years old. 522 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: They're all twenty two, twenty three, so I'm getting close 523 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: to twenty four years old. And I think that's gonna 524 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: be a benefit for a team like the Titans. And 525 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: I think we saw it and Mike Vrabel touched on 526 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: it at the Titans Foundation dinner. John Robinson has talked 527 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: about it. They have fit in well very quickly as 528 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: they've joined the veterans this week, and a lot of 529 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: it I think has to do not only with talent, 530 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: but the fact that they're a little more grown up 531 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: than your average rookie class. Yeah, because didn't THEO. Did 532 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: THEO play six years? I mean he started, he played 533 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: four years in Tennessee. After two years he played, I 534 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: know he was there five from sure, So I mean 535 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: you're getting situations where guys do he's almost twenty fixture, 536 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: that's good. I mean, was it Kenney Brett that was 537 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: maybe twenty when he got drafted here? And then we've 538 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: had some other guys who weren't even twenty one years old, 539 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: and then you are dealing with more maturity issues and 540 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: fitting in. You know, these guys are going from being 541 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, veteran leaders at their causes and now they're 542 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: ding on the NFL locker room where these guys or 543 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: someone we're in the thirties and it's a completely different environment. 544 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: Lots expected out if you will you walk in. These 545 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: guys are expecting you to be accountable and to know 546 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: what to do. So to have more mature guys, it's 547 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: a big help and something that will benefit them coming in. 548 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: You know what I think is also benefiting not just 549 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: Titans rookies, but rookies around the league. I think there's 550 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: a benefit to the nil thing and the name image 551 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: likeness has put a few bucks in a lot of 552 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: people's pockets. Now, some guys are getting hundreds of thousands 553 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: towards millions of dollars. But I mean even if you 554 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: just got a few thousand dollars, now you've had to 555 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: handle a little money, yeah, because so many guys go 556 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: from nothing to more than you can ever imagine. Well, 557 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: if they've had a little bit of money and they say, okay, 558 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: I got ten grand, well I can't go spend that 559 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: on everything. So maybe they've learned how to handle that 560 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: a little bit. Maybe they went out and bought themselves 561 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: a couch or a TV or something that they could afford. 562 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: You know. It's like as parents, you train your kids. 563 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: You give them an allowance because you want them to 564 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: start kind of learning how to handle money. Some of 565 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: these guys have handled a good bit of money, some 566 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: of them have handled just some. But in most cases, 567 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: all of these guys coming into the league now have 568 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to have a couple of bucks in 569 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: their pocket, unlike guys in the past, at least from 570 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: a legal standpoint, And I think it makes a difference. Yeah, 571 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: that's interesting. I don't really thought about that, but I 572 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: think that there's something to that. And then you don't 573 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: want guys, you know, getting paid and then first thing 574 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 1: they're worrying about is what am I gonna buy? I mean, 575 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: you want them to focus on football and put some 576 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: of the other stuff on the back burner. So I 577 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: do think that, you know, that's an interesting point. I 578 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 1: think it will be something to watch the Super Seniors 579 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: coming off COVID And this is a this is a deeper, 580 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: older group like a cold strange for the Patriots from UTC. 581 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: He's six years at Chattanooka, he's twenty four years old. 582 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: There's just a difference in a twenty year old and 583 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: a twenty three twenty four year old. Yeah, so that 584 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: helps you not only from a body stampoint and being 585 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: more developed than maybe being stronger coming the league, but 586 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: obviously from a maturity standpoint as well, and the team's 587 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: benefit from that well. And you think for guys, our 588 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: insurance goes down when we turn twenty five, and there's 589 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: a reason. I mean, statistically, you make better decisions as 590 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: a guy the older that you get as you get 591 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 1: out of your early twenties. Towards your mid twenties, and 592 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: so you know, those sorts of things factor in because 593 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: so many people don't get this is a job, right 594 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: and training Barks, obviously, the youngest of the group, would 595 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: just think when you saw that stat he as the 596 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: first Titan draft after the Music City miracle, You've had 597 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: that stat right after it happened. And when you put 598 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: that out, I had to just stop. I had to 599 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: stop and really give that some serious consideration. But I mean, 600 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 1: he's almost twenty two, right, is he twenty two? Ye 601 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: of two thousand, Yeah, so he is twenty two, So 602 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: it's not like he's even twenty. Right. He had a 603 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: tough first day and then he bounced back. But it's 604 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 1: gonna be an adjustment for trailing Burkes, it is. And uh, 605 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean I do think he's a I mean, he's 606 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: a horrid working kid. Everything you heard about him coming 607 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: out of Arkansas, it's just how he works, just what 608 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: a relentless competitor is. And it's tough when you're a 609 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: rookie coming in here as the first pick, following a 610 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: guy you know who who was very popular and very 611 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: successful here and he's not here to replace a J. 612 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: Brown he's kind of here to kind of forge a 613 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: place for him self. You know, will he go through 614 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: some growing pains, No question that people are patient with 615 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: him as he kind of works his way through it. 616 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna need some other guys to step up. 617 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: Robert Woods, who who talked last night. I'm gonna post 618 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: a story on him on the website just about how 619 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: he's fitting in, how they think he's fitting in, how 620 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: he's coming along, I mean, the faster Robert Woods gets 621 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: up to speed, the faster, you know, even even Kyle Phillips, 622 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean gets up to speed. And Nick Wespricachina's he 623 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: kind of steps up into more of a roll. You 624 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: don't want to have all the pressure on your first 625 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: round pick um, you know know, as a rookie. And so 626 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: I hope they're able to be good around him, and 627 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: and we'll see who else emergers. I think some of 628 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: the guys in this wide receiver group that are capable 629 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: of maybe garner some attention. The two from last year 630 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: are of most interest to me as we move into 631 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: the final phase of the offseason program. Des Fitzpatrick and 632 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: Racy McMath can one or both take a step to 633 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: become part of the rotation. Yeah, and I think think, 634 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: you know, obviously if Fitzpatrick is the one I'm really 635 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: curious about, because he did come in, um, you know, 636 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: with such high hopes, and then he was cut and 637 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: they were somewhat critical of him, and then towards the 638 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: end of the the season it seemed like they were almost 639 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: trying to reassure him a little bit or throw a 640 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: little praise his way to help kind of build his confidence. 641 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: And I know he's worked. I mean, he's uh, you know, 642 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: he's one of the guys that went down and threw 643 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: some with Ryan Tanneyhill in Florida. I think he's put 644 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: the time in. I think from a toughness competitiveness standpoint, 645 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: I think they'd liked what they saw of him towards 646 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: the second half of the season. And uh, and he 647 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: has gotten a little bit of experience and been able 648 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: to score touchdown and been able to experience kind of 649 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: the highs and lows of a season. And I think 650 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: that all should help him going into camp this year. Yeah. 651 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: And McMath is a phenomenal athlete. We saw it in 652 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: camp last year. I mean at the start, I mean, 653 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: you're who was it that was it. Julio even said 654 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: he reminds him a little bit of aj right, and 655 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: then he kind of faded a little bit. I mean, 656 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of times, you know, your 657 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: youth and inexperience, eventually we'll maybe catch up to you 658 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 1: a little bit and your body gets worn down. I 659 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: think now he's got a full season under his bell. 660 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: As long as he can be healthy, he's got the 661 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: skill set and some ability to really be an interesting 662 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: competitor well. And that's why when you watch guys in camp, 663 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: you can't get too crazy, because you know, particularly with 664 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: the rookies, nine out of ten are going to hit 665 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: a wall at some point. They're they're physically tired because 666 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: the job is so different than what they've done. They're 667 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: physically tired because the season is so long, the mental 668 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: part of it is so tough. The day in, day 669 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: out of it is so tough. You know, like I 670 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: said earlier, it's a job. And then you get a 671 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: guy like Daz who came in. They traded to get there. 672 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: They cut a fourth round pick. That's how poorly he 673 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: played in camp, and yet they got him back on 674 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: the practice squad and he fought his way back, and 675 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: at one point he just said something to the effect 676 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: that I'm paraphrasing, he goes a lot of the things 677 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: you were asking me to do in camp. I had 678 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: no idea what I was being asked to do, because 679 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: for a lot of these guys who go to schools, 680 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: they don't hear play calls, they don't hear a lot 681 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: of technique things because teams are trying to get them 682 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: on the field as fast as possible. They're playing four 683 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: and five receivers. It's no knock on Louisville. It's a 684 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: lot of these programs. So you're sticking these guys on 685 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: the field trying to out athlete the other team. And 686 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: you want your athlete to be able to do as 687 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: much as possible, as fast as possible, so you don't 688 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: overload him. Well, on the pros, you can't do that right. 689 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: And so he was the first one in meetings. He 690 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: was the one who was answering questions when John Robinson 691 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: quizzed guys. I mean, he put in the time, and 692 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: I think that toughness really impressed them, that he fought back, 693 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 1: because a lot of guys, and we've seen it, every 694 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: team has seen it. A lot of guys who have 695 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: that happened just quit. Yeah, I was thinking as you 696 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: were kind of kind of telling that story. I mean, 697 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: and I've seen guys who get frustrated on the practice field. 698 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we've heard Rob Moore correct him time and 699 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: time again. We've heard players correct him over doing drills, 700 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: over making sure you do that right. And some guys 701 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: either get frustrated or feel like everybody's against me, and 702 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 1: they do their attitude gets bad. But you could always tell, 703 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, even toward the end of the last season, 704 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: that he wasn't one of those guys who was kind 705 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: of drifting away. He was still in the middle of it. 706 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: Players continue to encourage him, and I think that's because 707 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: they believe that he's got it in him to be 708 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: a good player. So I think his attitude has been good. 709 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: I think helps him that he has a father that is, 710 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: you know, with the football background who has kind of 711 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: pushed him and not let up on him, because he 712 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: can take the tough, love the criticism and not mope 713 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: and pout. And we've seen some guys do that before, 714 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: especially at that position. Yeah, and uh so I think 715 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: I think, um, there was a year of learning probably 716 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: helped him a great deal, and I'm curiously how he 717 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 1: does here in um OTA's and Mini can I am too. 718 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be fun to watch. Let's 719 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 1: end with Malik willis your initial thoughts on the third 720 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 1: round quarterback out of Liberty. Well, he was better than 721 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: I thought he would be there, really, there's no question 722 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: about that. Early on on Friday, obviously there was I 723 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: think everybody's struggling on Friday. I mean they were, you know, Rabel. 724 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: We heard some colorful language from from Rabel. No. I 725 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: think he was frustrated just by some of the mistakes 726 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: that were made and even getting an exchange was was 727 00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: an issue and and a lot of sloppiness. But I 728 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: liked about him as um you know, both days, he 729 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: was the first guy out there. You know, he's got 730 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: a routine he goes through, you know with it's stretching, 731 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, kind of getting loosened up. And he and 732 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: he so he got out there early. I liked the 733 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: way he encourages everybody around him, you know, slapping fives 734 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: with guys, you know, pulling him aside, uh you know, 735 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: giving him you know, quick little pep talks. And then 736 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: I thought he showed some points and made some really 737 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: good throws. I mean he's kind of strong army and 738 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: to put it in some tight spaces on a couple 739 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: of plays, made a great touch throw down the middle 740 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: of the field, Um, you knowe to I think it 741 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: was chig and uh, I was really impressed with that. Now. 742 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: He also made a few bathrows. He had an interception 743 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: obviously mentioned with THEO the almost THEO almost guy him 744 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: another time. There were some balls that were behind guys 745 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: where they bailed him out or he just missed. There 746 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: are some plays where he he tuck it and ran 747 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: with it, um and what I don't know, Well that 748 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: was him just not being able to find go through 749 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: the reads and maybe not find guys or what happened there. 750 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: But he's he's a work in progress and I don't 751 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: know what's going to end up happening with him this year. 752 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: But you know, if somebody's asked me the day what 753 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: I see happening at the quarterback position here in the fall, 754 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: and my initial thought it was Ryan Tannehill's gonna be 755 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: the starter, Logan Woodside is gonna be the two, and 756 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: they're gonna be patient with the league. He'll be the 757 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: three could be an active on game days and and 758 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: just give him kind of a red shirt year. But 759 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 1: a lot of that depends on what happens with him 760 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: over the course of the next couple of months, how 761 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: much you can get up to speed, how much he's 762 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: able to soak some of this stuff in. And I 763 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: think they'll push him. I mean I don't. I don't 764 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: think that they're gonna put kid gloves on him and 765 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: and think, Okay, this guy, We've got no sense of 766 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: urgency here at all. I think they want to try 767 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: to get him up a speed. At the same time, 768 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: I think they when they was picked, I think they 769 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: realize that this is not a guy we're playing on 770 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: helping us in two twenty two now necessarily now the 771 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: potential is the key thing. The biggest surprise to me 772 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: about him in meeting him. He is such an aware kid, 773 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: totally gets it. He gets that he plays quarterback in 774 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: the NFL. He gets that he's got a lot to learn, 775 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: he gets that he's not entitled anything. He gets that 776 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: there is so much to this job and to what 777 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: his role is. The whole thing about being first on 778 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: the field, that's by design. He knows that's what a 779 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: quarterback is supposed to do. That part of it, I 780 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: think gives him as much of a chance as the 781 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: physical potential. Fantastic arm, tremendous lower body in terms of strength, 782 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: which obviously generates a lot of power towards not only 783 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: running but throwing, but just the thing about him, and 784 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: I'll say this, I mean a couple of the young quarterbacks. 785 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: We've had multiple young quarterbacks, they were not aware and 786 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: maybe they learned it in time, but they didn't get 787 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: you have to talk to the media. They didn't get 788 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: that you you have to be the front guy. That 789 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,479 Speaker 1: you're automatically going to be the face, whether you want 790 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: to be or not, whether that's your your personality or not. 791 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: This is the position. This is why you get paid. 792 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: This is why you're on the side of the stadium. 793 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: This is the job. And that kid, Malik Willis is 794 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: as aware as any youngster I've ever been around. He 795 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: blew me away. Yeah, and he doesn't in a way 796 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: where he's not cocky either. I mean, he's a very 797 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: likable guy. I remember, you know me, I'm met him 798 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: at the I guess the day before the draft and 799 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: Vegas they had an event for all the rookies that 800 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: were there, and they and they were I think they 801 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: were nineteen twenty of the guys, and they were at 802 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: the NFL event that they made a field there, and 803 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: then at the end of that event, they had the 804 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: players kind of scatter across the field and there were 805 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: times where he was standing over there by himself. I mean, 806 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: this is a guy who was a potentially a first 807 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: round pick, and he's kind of an unassuming guy. Anybody 808 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: that kind of went up to him, he was very likable, 809 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: but it had just a great person. I remember asking 810 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: about the Titans, and he didn't act like he didn't 811 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 1: know that much about the Titans. He said, he played 812 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: the Titans in Madden so he knew some of the 813 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: players there. But then he comes here and he does 814 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: the press conference and you and certainly quarterbacks get a 815 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: lot of attention in college. But you've got to consider 816 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: that he was doing a lot of his stuff on 817 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: zoom because of the COVID rules. And he obviously met 818 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: with the reporters at the Senior Bowl, and met with 819 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: the reporters at the Combine, and I had to do 820 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: some stuff around the draft. He has not done a 821 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: lot of the big scrums that you have in the 822 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: press conference. So with the new audience, I thought he 823 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: was very genuine there. He's asking him tough questions about 824 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, obviously Tanney Hill and some of the things 825 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: that he had said. I thought he was very genuine 826 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: with everything he said, and I was really impressed with 827 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: him myself. He gets it, yes, and I think that 828 00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: gives him a real chance because so many fail on 829 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: the fact that they don't get it, and it hurts 830 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: them in different ways that when you go between is 831 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: this going to be the guy or not? A lot 832 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 1: of times that lack of awareness ends up being the 833 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 1: deciding factor because you're like, this guy can't lead our team. 834 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: He's not going to be able to stand in front 835 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: of the medium when he throws three picks. He's not 836 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: going to be able to stand in front of a 837 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,280 Speaker 1: locker room when he throws three picks. He's gonna wilt, 838 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,919 Speaker 1: He's gonna melt into the corner and whatever. I mean. 839 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: This is a hard job. It is a heart Now 840 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: there are a lot of rewards, but it's a hard 841 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: job and you better know it's hard and you better 842 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: know what all comes with it. Malik does it's a 843 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: guarantee of nothing, but I think between that and his potential, 844 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: it's a great starting point. I came away from watching 845 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: him talking with him, just sort of witnessing all of it, thinking, 846 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 1: this kid's got a chance, yeah, and he's gonna work 847 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: out it. Then I know a lot was made about 848 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill's mentoring comments. I thought it got way overblown 849 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: because we know what he's like, we know how he's 850 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: going to be as a teammate. He was always going 851 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: to help Selek Willis, but I think Marcus Mariota when 852 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,399 Speaker 1: he was the backup. Yeah. So so even with all 853 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: that said, I mean Malik's personality and the way he 854 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: is and the way you know he wants to learn 855 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: and he's not trying to you know, obviously you're competing, 856 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,760 Speaker 1: you want to get on the field as soon as possible, 857 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 1: but you know, I think Malik is one of these 858 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: guys who's trying to soak up as much as possible. 859 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: He's a very again, genuine, likable guy. I think that's 860 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: going to endear him to Ryan even more. But the 861 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 1: whole fan thing in August, when we see him in 862 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: the preseason and he's spectacular against backups, and I predict 863 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,240 Speaker 1: he will be You're gonna have to say, whoa there, 864 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 1: you know, easy, easy, Let's keep it all in perspective 865 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: because I think when people see his talent, they're going 866 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: to get an idea pretty quickly of how potentially special 867 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: he could become. Yeah, and it's just a matter of win. 868 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: I mean, and it's really not up not all up 869 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: to him either. I mean a lot of it's up 870 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: to Ryan Tanneyhill. Because if Ryan Tannehill comes out and 871 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 1: plays well in twoy twenty two kind of returns to form, 872 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: gets this team to a place that a lot of 873 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: people felt like it should have been in last year, 874 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,280 Speaker 1: then what I mean, then you want to keep ride 875 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: and run it back. So he just has to just 876 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: work and do everything you can to get up to speed. 877 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 1: I know they're gonna work with him to try to 878 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: help him speed up that process. But uh, you know, 879 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: the team's starting quarterback as Ryan Tannehill, and if it's 880 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 1: the Titans, they're gonna be good this year. They're gonna 881 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: need him to be good. Absolutely, Far Bureau of Health 882 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: plans they bring you the OTP and let the experts 883 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: at Far Bureau Health plans coach you through it when 884 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: you need great healthcare coverage at a price you can afford. 885 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 1: They've been protecting Tennessee in's for seventy five years. Jim 886 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: Wyatt at Tennessee Titans dot Com He's got like nineteen 887 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: articles every single day. Is that an exaggeration? Probably a 888 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 1: boy as much as the intro you gave. 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We appreciate you 898 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 1: being with us for the ode t being welcome to 899 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: the big show where the legends go. Everybody knows it's 900 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: our house fighting though Tennessee making three greatness is meant 901 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 1: to be