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Speaker 1: We're back. Wait. I mean, I'm Robert Evans. This is

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Speaker 1: Behind the Bastard podcast. Bad People talk about Brandy Posey.

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Speaker 1: That's me. We are here. It's part two. Hitler Fox, Hitler,

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Speaker 1: Fox Boogaloo. Hitler's dick. Everybody's thinking about it, and everybody's

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Speaker 1: thinking about it. Hitler's stupid dick. Hitler. And I'm gonna guess,

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Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't seem like a guy who did

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Speaker 1: a lot of core strengthening exercises. And then I guess

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Speaker 1: a little little low energy. No, yeah, Hitler is like,

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Speaker 1: uh like a like a like a five pump kind

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Speaker 1: of guy. I know'd at you. I know what his

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Speaker 1: hair would do because I can imagine like a sweat

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Speaker 1: drenched fucking Hitler with just like that little thing flipping

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Speaker 1: down on the front of it. He's just constantly just yeah,

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Speaker 1: so mad, like every organ as um makes him mad

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Speaker 1: because it makes him happy. It just gets angrier and

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Speaker 1: angrier the more he comes. Yeah, exactly, Hitler doesn't make

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Speaker 1: me feel good. I don't understand Hitler. And I was

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Speaker 1: going a little Russian there, a little a little yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm not great at accents. It's okay anyway, Uh, podcast

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Speaker 1: The Hitler. When we left off, we had just sort

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Speaker 1: of established Hitler's youth in his young adulthood, the way

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Speaker 1: his best friends talked about him and his sexual life,

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Speaker 1: although after they were no longer his best friends. Again,

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Speaker 1: I'll take everything here about Hitler with a little bit

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Speaker 1: of salt um. Yeah exactly. When then we know about

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Speaker 1: the guy for sure? Is that burked Gotten was his

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Speaker 1: happy place. It's basically a quiet mountain town where he had.

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Speaker 1: He eventually built a giant fortress up there, but it

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Speaker 1: of the mountaine. We could stare pensively out of the

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Speaker 1: skyline and contemplate being Hitler. Uh, he just needed, imo.

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Speaker 1: I think he just needed like Elliott Smith would have

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Speaker 1: saved the world a lot of problems. Yeah, exactly, guys,

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Speaker 1: feel so seen. I feel so seen. He is also right,

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Speaker 1: like his saying, I understand becoming a Transylvania. The accidents

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Speaker 1: are going to be all over the place, oh boy. Now.

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Speaker 1: In autumn of nineteen six, Hitler took a trip to

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Speaker 1: Burked's Gotten in order to relax and plot the Nazi

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Speaker 1: He was going up to big Bear to like write,

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Speaker 1: he also took a bunch of spinach with him that

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Speaker 1: he didn't end up eating. Almost certainly, that's every writer's

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Speaker 1: retreat I've ever gone on. I'm just like, I'm bringing

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Speaker 1: nothing but kale and kids eating. I just go to

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Speaker 1: taco belt. Hitler had that experience too. Oh, yeah for sure. Yeah. Now,

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Speaker 1: while he was staying in a fancy hotel, hil their

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Speaker 1: meddle lady named Maria writer Mimi to her friends. Now,

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Speaker 1: young Mimi was in a rough spot in life. Her

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Speaker 1: a member of the Social Democratic Party, had pulled her

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Speaker 1: family clothing store. Now, the store was located in the

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Speaker 1: Hitler saw her as soon as he arrived. Uh, seemingly

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Speaker 1: at once, this thirty seven year old politician saw a

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Speaker 1: dad's ever been proud of him, Like there's one more. Okay, great,

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Speaker 1: That became a pattern with Hitler. The older he grew,

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Speaker 1: the age of the girls he flirted with stay the same. Yep, yep. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Nothing you've said is is surprising to me.

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Speaker 1: He sees her too in his Theatrically captivated, he asks

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Speaker 1: If like we'd kept our thing up, that's excuse, the

421
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 1: truth would have come out. And oh so it's like

422
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 1: he knows it's not supposed to be doing that. Yes,

423
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: and this is not a lot of times when you

424
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: talk about people dating teenagers or whatever in the past.

425
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: It was definitely more normal back then. Again, this was

426
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 1: a political liability for a thirty seven year old. It

427
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: would have been weird. If he'd been twenty five and

428
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: dating a sixteen year old, that would have been pretty

429
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: normal for Austria in nineteen This is weird. Yeah, yeah,

430
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: what he's doing is weird and he knows it. Yeah.

431
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: Uh So. Mimi claims that she found out later that

432
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: the letters you know, sent into the Nazi party office

433
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: were actually written by a woman who was close to

434
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 1: Hitler and jealous of his relationship with Mimi. It was

435
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: possibly this lady who was like his bodyguard slash chauffeur,

436
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 1: who was like in love with him that he may

437
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: have also fucked. We don't really know that much about

438
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: that relationship. There's a lot of rumored relationships that we

439
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: don't have confirmation of, But one thing that is confirmed

440
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: is the not these were unbelievably caddy bitches. There was

441
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: tons of tons of blackmail within the Nazis. Gross, and

442
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: they were all fucking with each other. Yea. And they're

443
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: all fucking messy. Just a bunch of messy bitches for

444
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: messy messy bitches. Yeah, that's the Nazis. So Mimi and

445
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: Hitler drifted apart for a while. The whole relationship was

446
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: a huge deal for her, but it seems to have

447
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: been more of a bump on the road for Hitler.

448
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: During this time, he repeatedly flirted with his best friend,

449
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: han Stengel's wife, as well as Henrietta Hoffman, the daughter

450
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,239
Speaker 1: of his photographer and fiance of Balder von Sharrock, one

451
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: of his top Nazis. Hitler dated or at least made

452
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 1: moves on Jenny how one of his drivers, and the

453
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: bodyguard Lady I talked about maybe the woman who sent

454
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: the letter. It's hard to tell how true all the

455
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: different rumors about women might have been with with, but

456
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: it seems like by the mid twenties he's famous enough that,

457
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are following for his charms. Yeah,

458
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: largely for his fame. According to Ian Kershaw quote. None

459
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: of his liaisons, it seems, had been more than superficial.

460
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: No deep feelings were ever stirred. Women were for Hitler

461
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: a sport, an adornment in a men's world, whether in

462
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: the men's home in Vienna, the regiment during the war,

463
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: the Munich barracks until his discharge, and his regular gatherings

464
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: of party cronies and Cafe Neumau or a Cafe Heck

465
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: in the nineteen twenties. Hitler's environment had always been overwhelmingly male.

466
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: Very occasionally a woman would be admitted into our intimate

467
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: circle recard recalled Heinrich Hoffman, but she never was allowed

468
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: to become the center of it, and had to remain

469
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: seen but not heard. She could occasionally take a small

470
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: part in the conversation, but never was she allowed to

471
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: hold forth or to contradict Hitler. I love a silent wife,

472
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: silent dumb. That's the way Hitler likes him. A silent,

473
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: quiet woman who's barely alive, God Hitler. Now. Hitler's next

474
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: confirmed fling was with Gilly Rouble, his half niece. Oh

475
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: six s here we go. You can't stop a Hitler

476
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: male from fucking his own niece cannot stay away from

477
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: It's a thing here. Two generations, you guys fucking they're

478
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: the same age when they start to Uh so he

479
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: met her when she was four eight years old. Her

480
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: father had died when she was young, and her mother

481
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: worked as a housekeeper. They were poor. Um Hitler did

482
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: wait until she was sixteen. Uh oh, well, what a gentleman,

483
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: What a gentleman. And that's the age when Uncle Alf

484
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: as she called him, asked her and her mom to

485
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: move to Munich and become his housekeepers. Now for them

486
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: it would have seemed like a real upgrade, because he

487
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: was a very powerful man by this point. He set

488
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: Gilly and Angela up in an apartment, and while her

489
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: mom cleaned house, Hitler took his teenage niece out on

490
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: the town. He found out she wanted to be a singer,

491
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: and R. Kelly like started paying for music lessons and

492
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: promising to make her famous, like sol track so tracks.

493
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: It's not just hit He wasn't just one of these guys.

494
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: He was all of them. Yeah, he's the prototype for

495
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: there's before him too. But it's like he really is

496
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: just greatest hits all around. How many was he into Jello?

497
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: What he was he drugging ladies? Yes? Is he like

498
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: super into Jello at any point? Yeah, I mean credit

499
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: where it's due. That might be an area where Cosby

500
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: innovated on Hitler. Yeah, yeah, right, although, yeah, there's some

501
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,239
Speaker 1: other crimes coming up herself. Over the next year or so,

502
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: Hitler fell increasingly in love with his teenage niece. This

503
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: did not go over well with his inner circle. Han

504
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: Stengel hated Gilly, calling her an empty headed slut with

505
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: the coarse sort of bloom of a servant girl, which

506
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: is some real sexist, rich guyship. Yeah, please blame the

507
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: child that was brought here by the adult man in power.

508
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: Please please please. Yeah. Also, if he'd known Hitler's family history,

509
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: he would have known servants were sort of the family thing. Yeah,

510
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: that's kind of how it works out for them. Weird

511
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: that he and his dad both not only sleep with

512
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: their nieces but both bring them in as like serving girls.

513
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: How How where do you think Hitler was of that relationship.

514
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is there's a lot of rumors

515
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: that he was to an extent and he was trying

516
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: to keep it hidden from people, because I'm just wondering

517
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: if that's like him trying to like normalize how his

518
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: parents got together in some way. Maybe he even was

519
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: thinking that consciously. I'm I'm certain it wasn't conscious, but

520
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: that may that may have been a factor, and being

521
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: like wanting to sort of be like, well, no, you know,

522
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: if I'm like the biggest man in Germany and this

523
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: is what I do, then it wasn't messed up. How

524
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: I grew up fine, and I don't have to think

525
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: about it that much. Yeah, exactly. No. My my mother,

526
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: aunt wife, my mother, aunt wife, cousin. Yeah. So Putsy

527
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: had to admit still that the infatuation his fewer had

528
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: with this teenage girl was pretty significant. He said that

529
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: she quote had the effect of making him behave like

530
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: a man in love. He hovered at her elbow in

531
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: a very plausible imitation of adolescent infatuation. So Gelly wound

532
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: up having an affair with Hitler's longtime chauffeur, Emil Maurice.

533
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: Forgave her but fired Maurice when a local Nazi party

534
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: leader named munder wind that Gilly was distracting Hitler from politics.

535
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: Hitler fired Munder For a while, Gilly Rabul threatened to

536
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: derail the coming of the Third Reich entirely. Hitler started

537
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: canceling plans for speeches and meetings to take her on picnics. Now,

538
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: Gilly's probably the single most controversial piece of Hitler's backstory.

539
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: Off the top of my head, the only thing historians

540
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 1: debate more of viciferiously about Hitler is whether or not

541
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: he was like an active or passive participant in the Holocaust. Like,

542
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: those are like two of the things that are most

543
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: questioned about this guy. Um. The relationship is, among other things,

544
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: the origin of the Hitler liked poop myth. So that's

545
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: where we're going next. Oh hell yeah, you know. It's

546
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: just sometimes you think you're just gonna have a Friday,

547
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: and here it is, and here it is, here it is.

548
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: It does feel great. Hitler bought the gigantic apartment that

549
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: he had first promised Mimi Reader, but he was over her,

550
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: so he moved his seventeen year old niece, and Gilly's

551
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: mother was sent off to Berkis Godden to keep Hitler's

552
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: holiday at home clean and to keep her away from

553
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: Hitler and her daughter. So Gilly and Hitler lived in

554
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: separate bedrooms but on the same floor. Now, our main

555
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: sources for this particular story about the relationship come from

556
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: a journalist named Conrad Hayden and our old pal hun Stengel.

557
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: They also come from Gregor Strasser, a former Nazi who

558
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: fell out with Hitler. So all these stories are from

559
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: very anti Hitler people who have reason to exaggerate things

560
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: just far away. I bring that up. Yeah, so I

561
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: just like that. They've got a real like I Love

562
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: Lucy set up in their house. Oh yeah, it's very

563
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: much that, but with poop. So Vanity Fair quotes all

564
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: of these sources, and I'm going to read they're kind

565
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: of recollection of events. Starting with Heyden quote, Hitler wrote

566
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: the young girl a letter couched in the most unmistakable terms.

567
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: It was a letter in which the uncle and lover

568
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: gave himself completely away. It expressed feelings which could be

569
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: expected from a man with masochistic copperphile inclinations, bordering on

570
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: what hav Alock Ellis calls undinism. The letter probably would

571
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: have been repulsive to Gilly if she had received it,

572
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: but she never did. Hitler left the letter lying around

573
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: and fell into the hands of his landlady's son, a

574
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: certain doctor Rudolph. The letter was bound to the base

575
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: Hitler and make him ridiculous in the eyes of anyone

576
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: who might see it. Hitler seems to have feared that

577
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: it was Rudolph's intention to make it public. So coprophile

578
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: is obviously loving poop, and udinism is loving to be

579
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: urinated at all. So that's that's how this journalist sort

580
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: of describes this mythical letter that Hitler almost sends Gilly,

581
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: but it gets intercepted, and then another nazis like threatening

582
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: the blackmail hit Hitler with it. I again, that's an

583
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: intense letter. How many rough drafts you go do you

584
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: go through? For you telling your niece you want to

585
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: poop in her or be pooped in by her? Yeah,

586
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, we'd have to ask John McAfee.

587
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: That so putsy hop Stengel told a pretty similar story

588
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: in his biography, but he claims that the pointographic content

589
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: was different. Rather than a letter about his desire to

590
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: be pooped in by Gilly, hom Stengel claims that the

591
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: thing that got intercepted was Hitler's nude sketches of his niece. Uh.

592
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: He describes the drawings as depraved, intimate sketches of Gilly

593
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: rabble with every anatomical detail, which could have meant that

594
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: it was something we'd consider really weird to be on

595
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: the pale, or could have meant that he was just

596
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: drawing point of a girl he thought was his girlfriend.

597
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: I mean girls, because she's his seventeen year old niece.

598
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: But it might not have been a poop thing. It

599
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: could just be like a nude photos. Now, the most

600
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: direct story we have, or most direct evidence we have

601
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: of the Hitler liked poop myth, comes from Auto Strasser. Now,

602
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: Otto was a leading figure in the Nazi Party for

603
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: a while and then fell a foul of the party.

604
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: His brother, who was also a Nazi, was murdered, and

605
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: Otto became like a critic of the regime, and he

606
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: wrote about this in a nineteen forty book that he

607
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: published after he had fallen out with the party. So

608
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: again grain assault. Here, Otto Strasser claims that basically, after

609
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: a period of excitement, Gilly got bored of being Hitler's girlfriend,

610
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: since Hitler believed he had to present an image of

611
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: being available and married to Germany. Hitler's handler's like kind

612
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: of thought that hitler sex appeal was a big part

613
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: of Nazism's draw and if he was known that he

614
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: had a girlfriend, like, women wouldn't vote for him and

615
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: then he wouldn't be able to win election, which they

616
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: may have been right about. There's something, I mean, there's

617
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: something there. I guess. Yeah, it's hard to say. This

618
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: was like pretty soon after women got the vote too,

619
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: so like people were I mean, people were sexist for

620
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: a lot of reasoning got a vote for available, sexy,

621
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: sexy Hitler. He sees my ballot, I'll get to be

622
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: Mrs Hitler. Yeah, exactly Hitler. So basically Strasser claimed that,

623
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: like Gilly was really bored all the time, and it's

624
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: like really frustrated and depressed at not being able to

625
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: go out with her boyfriend. And finally Hitler like allowed

626
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: him Strasser to take Gilly out to a Marty Girl

627
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: party because he was like, Okay, I'll let you do something,

628
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: but I can't go with you because it will look bad,

629
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: So you go with my friend. So Strasser claims that

630
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: during this party, they were sitting down at a table

631
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: and talking and she opened up to him with a

632
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: very emotional horror story. Quote from Strasser, Hitler made her

633
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 1: undress while he would lie down on the floor. Then

634
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: she would have to squat down over his face where

635
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: he could examine her at close range, and this made

636
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: him very excited. When the excitement reached its peak, he

637
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: demanded that she urinate on him, and that gave him

638
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: his sexual pleasure. Gilly said the whole performance was extremely

639
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: disgusting to her, and although it was sexually stimulating, it

640
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: gave her no gratification. So cool, cool, What a party?

641
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: What a party? The German parties man? Yeah, yeah, and again.

642
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: Strasser hated Hitler by that point, may have just been

643
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: trying to slander his name. Other reports of Gilly and

644
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: Hitler's relationship say that it was about as normal as

645
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: a actual liaison between a niece and her uncle could be.

646
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: We don't know what they got up to. What we

647
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: do know is that in nineteen thirty one, at the

648
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: cusp of Hitler reaching power, Mimi Reader came back into

649
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: his life. This is while he's living with Gilly. She's

650
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: like a legal age this time and not even related

651
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: to him. She's like eighteen now, So while Hitler's living

652
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: with and banging his niece. Uh, Mimi Reader comes you know,

653
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: into town. She'd married a guy in the intervening years,

654
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: but dumped him, you know, a little bit in and

655
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: basically traveled to Munich for a Hitler booty call. So

656
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: this is her version of events as described by the

657
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: book Explaining Hitler. She quote calls Hitler's adjutant Julia Schaub,

658
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: informed that Mimi is in town. Hitler tells Schaub bring

659
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: her over. Mimi places the episode that follows in the

660
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: summer of nineteen thirty one, when Hitler was living in

661
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: his big new apartment with Gilly Rouble. Now, Mamy claims

662
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: that during this visit, I let everything happen, so they

663
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: had sex. This is this is like one of the

664
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: first confirmations we have, and she doesn't give us a

665
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: lot of detail about this. We know that Hitler has

666
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: a booty call with Mimi in early you know, summer

667
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: or whatever, nineteen thirty one, and then not a whole

668
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: long while later, maybe just a couple of weeks, maybe

669
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: a few days, Kelly Rabble commits suicide. Yeah. Now, there

670
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: are a number of theories as to why. One says

671
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: she was jealous that Hitler had slept with Mimi, and

672
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: being nineteen at the time, took the most dramatic revenge

673
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: she could imagine. Another theory says she started an affair

674
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: with a Jewish dance teacher in Vienna and was about

675
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: to leave Hitler, and so he had her murdered. Some

676
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: the version say that he murdered her himself. Yet another

677
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: variant is that she wanted to leave for Vienna because

678
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: she was just bored, but he refused to let her go,

679
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: and she killed herself in protest, because again she was nineteen.

680
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: Either way, one detail is consistent across all these stories.

681
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: Skelly Robble entered Hitler's room, found his six point five

682
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: millimeter Mauser handgun, and shot herself dead through the chest,

683
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: which again is part of why people think it might

684
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: have been a murder because she shot herself chest. That's

685
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: a hard shot to take, But it's also not uncommon

686
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: for women who commit suicide with guns to avoid shooting

687
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: themselves in the head. Interesting. Wow, so nobody knows. This

688
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: is debated to this day. There are people right now

689
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: who are trying to have her body exhumed uh in

690
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: order to like to and like think that they found out,

691
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: like it's a big controversy and stuff. We don't we

692
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: don't really know what happened. It was a massive scandal

693
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: at the time. People thought it was going to derail

694
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: Hitler's political career. Right on the custom Prison too Power.

695
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: The Nazi Party immediately responded with like basically claiming that

696
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: she'd killed herself because she was nervous over an upcoming

697
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: music recital. The body was taken away courtesy of the

698
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: Bavarian Minister of Justice, who was a Nazi sympathizer. Um

699
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: her death was declared a suicide after a quick inquest.

700
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: It was all clearly shushed up by the Nazis government,

701
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: and like the fact that law enforcement was fans with

702
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: the Nazis. The whole story is it's really hard to

703
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: grasp exactly what happened here. There's certainly a good chance

704
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: she was murdered, but there's at least an equally good

705
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: chance that she was just driven to suicide by her

706
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: relationship with Hitler. Well, and she's also been like so

707
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: isolated at this point, like your whole world is this guy,

708
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 1: and he doesn't let you leave anywhere, and it's like, yeah,

709
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 1: I can see learning about him screwing Mimi when she's

710
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: living with him could have made her commit suicide. I

711
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: can see how she might not have known that at

712
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: all and have just been fed up by it. Yeah

713
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: for sure. Uh yeah, driving women to suicide, along with

714
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: flirting via whip was sort of Hitler's thing. Robert Waite,

715
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: a psychologist, wrote a psychoanalytical biography of Hitler titled The

716
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: Psychopathic God. Now, wait is like the first guy who

717
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: got Langer's oss report to classified, and he's definitely a

718
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: member of the Hitler was into weird ship sexually camp,

719
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: so a lot of his conclusions really debatable, but he

720
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: makes a decent case to suggest that Hitler was doing

721
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: something fucked up to the girls he liked. Quote. The

722
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: idea that Hitler had a sexual perversion particularly abhorrent to

723
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: women is further supported by a statistic. Of the seven

724
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: women who we can be reasonably reasonably sure had intimate

725
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: relations with Hitler, six committed suicide or seriously attempted. So damn, yeah,

726
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: so something something, something fucked up. God damn yeah, he's

727
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: he's up in some bad business. Doesn't have to be

728
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: kinky X. Even more likely, maybe that he's just really

729
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: emotionally abusive being Hitler. Yeah, yeah, something about you know,

730
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: he doesn't seem like a supportive boyfriend. Does not seem

731
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: like a supportive boyfriend. No, No, this is a guy.

732
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's he's we even some bullshit in your ears.

733
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: Suicide is the single biggest through line, rather than poop,

734
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 1: of Hitler's sex life. Eva Brown, who was Hitler's wife eventually,

735
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: who Hitler met in nineteen twenty nine and while she

736
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: was seventeen years old and he was in his forties,

737
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: attempted suicide in nineteen thirty two and again in nineteen

738
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: thirty five, and then obviously committed suicide with him in

739
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: nineteen forty five. There were two attempts before that point

740
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: while they were still together. Yeah wow, well, wells, we'll see,

741
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. Frau Ingle, another possible Hitler lover,

742
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: successfully committed suicide, so did Renette Mueller and Susie Liptower.

743
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: We don't know a lot about most of these relationships. Gilly,

744
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: Mimi and Eva are the only women we get a

745
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: lot of detail about, and Mimi is the only lover

746
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: who survived fucking Hitler long enough to give it a

747
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: tailed interview. Uh, it turns out that being in love

748
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: with the leader of the German Reich was even more

749
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: dangerous than fighting in Stalingrad. So we're going to talk

750
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: about why that may have been and about some of

751
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: the things that we do know about his sex life

752
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: from some of these women, the other details. But first

753
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: is an ad transition. Yeah, let's do some ads. Let's

754
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: do some ads. Don't think about Hitler sweaty balls. Well,

755
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: you think about these products. Damn it, that's a really

756
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: bad ad pivot. I'm glad Sophie's not here. She's gonna

757
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: be really pissed at that. Um uh products, We're back.

758
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: What a nice break from thinking about his shitty sweaty balls.

759
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: Shitty sweaty balls or who knows well, as doctor said,

760
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: not but okay, I don't know. It's a good song. Uh. So.

761
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: One of the women who committed suicide and is believed

762
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: to have been a lover of Hitler was a Rent Mueller.

763
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: Uh she was an actress and she got to tell

764
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of her story before leaping out of

765
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: a window and falling to her death in n seven.

766
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: Damn Yeah, so I'll quote Vanity Fair. These stories came

767
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: from the guy who was her director, so we don't

768
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: have her directly being quoted on this. The guy who

769
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: worked with her later told the OSS about like what

770
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: had gone down between them quote her director one A.

771
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: Zeisler later told the OSS that she had confided in

772
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: him shortly after spending a night with Hitler in the

773
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: Reichs Chancellory, how distressed she was that the nature of

774
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: the sexual practices Hitler demanded of her, of which, to

775
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: her mortification, she complied. She claimed Hitler fell on the

776
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: floor and begged her to kick him, condemned himself as unworthy,

777
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 1: and just grappled in an agonizing manner. The scene became

778
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: intolerable to her, and finally she acceded to his wishes.

779
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: As she continued to kick him, he became more and

780
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: more excited. Yeah, so that's a really different one. That's

781
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: like the Hitler liked being, And that's to me more

782
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: believable than some of the like a lot of powerful

783
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: men they want to sex workers, Like that's what these

784
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: guys go in for. Yeah, yeah, exactly like they want

785
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: to be. They want to be the sub. I don't

786
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: have any trouble imagining Hitler wanting a woman to just

787
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 1: kick him a bunch. Now he like masterbates on the floor.

788
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: That's yea, yeah, that's kind of sounds like the Hitler

789
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: we know. Yeah now that that that definitely sounds way

790
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: more because it's like there's a lot of self hate

791
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: going on. So it's like being able to actually like

792
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,479
Speaker 1: exercise that party yourself. Yeah, that seems for sure. Yeah,

793
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: I can see how that happened. Uh, And that also

794
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: just makes a lot of sense with like, um, it

795
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: would be very difficult to reconcile those two things if

796
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: you were a woman that knew that versus the image

797
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: of the world that Hitler that you knew, So that

798
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: would be I mean, I can see how that would

799
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: help with the suicide or it's it's there's also a

800
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: lot of people who suspect that she did not commit suicide,

801
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: that she was murdered because she knew about Hitler's sexual

802
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: preferences because she was kind of you know, dropped out

803
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: type of a window in nine seven might have been thrown.

804
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: We'll never know. This whole state was controlled by the

805
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: Nazis by that point, so you're not getting a good

806
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: in quest or anything. Well, it's like, how many of

807
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: these women, Like, was it actually suicide versus murder? Well,

808
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: that's that everyone nobody knows. With Gilly, I like, it's

809
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: possible they were all murdered and none of them killed themselves.

810
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: A man with Hitler, I don't have trouble believing, like

811
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: Eva Brown definitely tried to kill herself beforehand, So I

812
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: also I suspect it's a mix. I suspect one or

813
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: two of these women were murdered someone whom committed suicide.

814
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: Whatever the case, being with Hitler is not great for

815
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: her long terms. Good again, Mimi Reader is the only

816
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: one we get along, which you know, she's kind of

817
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: Hitler is the romance character and her recollection of things,

818
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: but like she lived through it. If that seems to

819
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: be pretty hard. Damn really dodged a bullet there, the

820
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: bullet Eva Brown did not dodge. Now, I think people

821
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: who focus too much on the possibility of sexual deviance

822
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: and Hitler kind of might have some kind of bad

823
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: intentions under the surface. I feel like focusing on that

824
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: on like the weird sex aspect of things, is a

825
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: way to make him seem less scary, Like calling him

826
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: a sexual serial killer actually makes him less area because

827
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: if Hitler is like a serial killer doing all of

828
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: these things because he's just Jeffrey Dahmer in charge of

829
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: a nation. Or if he's some poop feeding sex monster,

830
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: then he's not a normal human being like all of us. Yeah, exactly. Well,

831
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: and it's also like that's also demonizing those sexual practices

832
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, your kinks to your kinks,

833
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: as long as they're consensual, there's something the matter with them.

834
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: Whether or not Hitler was pooping in people's mouths, A

835
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: lot of people who didn't become Hitler were pooping in

836
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: each other's mouth and it's fine. Yeah, yeah. Now. Martin Amos,

837
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: best selling English author, is very much a proponent of

838
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: the weird sex view of Hitler. He was behind one

839
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: of these recent waves of Hitler kink stories, one that

840
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: hit back in two thousand and fourteen because during a

841
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: speech he started making claims that he believed he basically

842
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: claimed that this was a typical sexual encounter in the

843
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: life of Alf Hitler. Quote, he would fortify his underpants

844
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: with clean serviettes and napkins, and then he would go

845
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: into some sort of excitation with Ava Brown, staying at

846
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: a safe distance. So Amos believes that, and I'm going

847
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: to quote from an article about him. There are three

848
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: schools of thought when it comes to hitler sexuality. One

849
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: of normality, which Amos says that he can be immediately

850
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: thrown out because it is impossible to see Hitler is

851
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: a considerate and energetic lover. The next one is a sexuality,

852
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: and the third is perversion. Now, this belief is in

853
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 1: line with what spurned Nazis like han Stengel and Strasser claim,

854
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: and is also in line with the Languor report, but

855
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: very much out of line with the recollections of Mimi Reader,

856
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: who probably did fuck him and says that he was

857
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: pretty normal outside, like he was a weird guy, but

858
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: like in terms of the way he fucked nothing that

859
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: crazy um. Hitler sister Paula does believe Mimi Reader was

860
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: like the love of Hitler's life, and a lot of

861
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: other people will say that Gilly was the love of

862
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: his life. It's impossible to know maybe he cared that

863
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: much about any of them. I don't know if he's

864
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: actually capable of love. That's a great question. And and

865
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that like like Herman Garring is

866
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: one of the people who's like he was different after Gilly.

867
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: Like a lot of a lot of people who wound

868
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: up in trial after World War Two were the biggest

869
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: proponents of the Hitler totally changed after his niece killed herself.

870
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: And there's some suspicion among historians that like, well, you're

871
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,479
Speaker 1: just trying to like make it seem make yourself seem

872
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: less comple is it, and that like, no, when I

873
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: got involved with this guy, he was a normal dude

874
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: and then he went crazy and I, you know it

875
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: wasn't I I did, you know? It was out of

876
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: my hands. Also, what a way to blame it on

877
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: a woman. I mean the somersaults that people will pull

878
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: to blame everything on a woman. It's it's amazing. And

879
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: it comes down to like the ultimate example of that

880
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: is not to throw a shade on Simon Wiesenthal because

881
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: he's a hero, but like the Hitler got syphilis from

882
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: a Jewish prostitute. It's like both blame it on a

883
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: Jewish person and on a woman. There we go, yeah,

884
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: oh cool, that just what a what a neat little

885
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: bu little bow. We wrapped that up and he couldn't

886
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: help it. Yeah, So this like the attitude that Hitler

887
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: was just like sort of irredeemably weird and couldn't possibly

888
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: have attracted a woman naturally, and there was always strange.

889
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: It's not only out of line with what like made

890
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: me read reported, it's out of line with like what

891
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: his friends who didn't go on trial for war crimes

892
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: reported from this stage of his life. We I I

893
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: found an interview in time with a Carl Wilhelm Krauss,

894
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: who worked as Hitler's ballet for five years from thirty

895
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: four to thirty nine. They were like friendly, uh, and

896
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: here's what Krause reported quote. What I can state here

897
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: is that Hitler certainly did not hate women. Proof of

898
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: this are the many actresses who were invited along during

899
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: the early years to afternoon and evening performances. Often during

900
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: our travels, he would suddenly be totally enchanted, exclaiming, My God,

901
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 1: isn't that a beautiful girl? He then turned around, making

902
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: me who was behind him moved to the sides that

903
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: he had an undrestricted view behind him and could follow

904
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: the lady with his gaze if in any given place

905
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: an exceptionally beautiful woman would catch his eye. Bruckner more

906
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: often than not had to find out her address. After that,

907
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: the lady was invited for coffee either to Munich Berlin

908
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: or the ober Saltzberg, just so Hitler could have a

909
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: chat with her. That sounds like normal, famous, famous That

910
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: sounds like fucking any rich, famous guy in l A

911
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: seeing a girl who thinks he's cute and having someone

912
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: from his entourage go down there. Oh yeah, absolutely, that's classic.

913
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: Sounds like normal famous dude behavior. Uh. John Tolin talked

914
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: to Emil Maurice, Hitler's longtime chauffeur, and uh, there's the

915
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: guy who made love to Gilly and then got fired.

916
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: But they were He and Hitler were close for a

917
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: long time, and despite being exiled by Hitler for fucking

918
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: his niece, Emil Maurice gave a pretty reasonable appraisal of

919
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 1: his old boss's sex life, quote, we chased girls together

920
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: and I used to follow him like a shadow. The

921
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: two would spend time at the Art Academy and an

922
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: artist studio's admiring models posing in the nude. Calling himself

923
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: Harry Wolf, Hitler would occasionally pass an evening with Maurice,

924
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: roaming the night spots and streets for girls. Since the

925
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: latter was attractive, to women. He would act as a

926
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: go between every so often. According to Maurice, Hitler would

927
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: entertain one of these conquests by proxy in his little room.

928
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: He always offered flowers, even when he was penniless, And

929
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: we used to go out and admire the ballet dancers.

930
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: Sounds again, normal hot friend wingman for him, Like yeah,

931
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: that's all standard. Yeah again, these are like the and

932
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: this is a guy you'd expect Emil Maurice would have

933
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: bad ship to say about Hitler, but like, there's nothing

934
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: about that. I don't believe that sounds like a million guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

935
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: there's nothing. Ultimately, there's nothing special about Hitler whatsoever. Like

936
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: it's like, there's that's the conclusion you're drawing too. Now.

937
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: The last destination on our tour to Hitler's love life is,

938
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: of course, his relationship with Eva Brown or Brown Uh.

939
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: Eva was, as I stated, seventeen when they met. She

940
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: had been educated in a convent like Mimi Reader and

941
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: worked at Heinrich Hoffman, his photographer's shop, you know he

942
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: she was working there when Hitler met her. Now, this

943
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: is during the same year that Gilly and Hitler were

944
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: supposedly in the midst of the greatest romance of his life,

945
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: so they were living together in a relationship at this

946
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: point when he meets and invites Eva Brown out to

947
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: the opera, he probably started sucking her on the side

948
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: while he was still with his niece, and then at

949
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: one point fooling around with Mimi. So there's a point

950
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: in time when Hitler's like fooling around with three ladies,

951
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: one of whom lives with him, uh, and not telling

952
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: any of them about this. I mean that's also standard

953
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: standard for guy. Yeah exactly, none of this is weird. Yeah, yeah,

954
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: you're in like you you're you're in the power that

955
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: you've craved for so long. So we're gonna like, you know,

956
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: a bunch of ladies. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And like the

957
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: Eva Brown's two suicide attempts, one of them coincides with

958
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: like when Mimi would have come over, and when like

959
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: Gelly would have killed herself, and one of them coincides

960
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: with another potential person that we think Hitler might have

961
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: been sucking around with. So it's very possible that Eva

962
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: Brown's early suicide attempts in thirty two and thirty five

963
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: were because she was a teenager hooking up in an

964
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: angry man in his forties who played mind games with

965
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: her and fucked around on the sly. Yeah no, I

966
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: mean not all about that. Tracks tracks so much better

967
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: than sexual serial killer. Yeah yeah. Now, Eva Brown makes

968
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: is someone who I'd never really had makes sense to

969
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: me as a historical character before. But she makes so

970
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: much sense if you think of her as a sensitive,

971
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: artistic young woman dating a really really abusive dude that

972
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: she's in love with. Eric Kempa, another Hitler chauffeur, called

973
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: her the unhappiest woman in Germany. I really like Eva

974
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: Brown is portrayed by the offered Jane Tyne. Now. Jane

975
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: is a romance writer, mostly romantic historical fiction from what

976
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: I can tell, but she's also written some serious historic essays,

977
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: and the one of hers that I read was pretty good.

978
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: I like the way she presents Eva because, as a

979
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: general rule, brilliant as they are, most of great Hitler

980
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: biographers are male and kind of suck at getting into

981
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: Ava Brown's head even a little bit. So I'm gonna

982
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: read a quote from Jane kind of describing Ava Brown

983
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: a little differently than I had heard her describe before.

984
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: Quote from Eva's letters, we learned that her parents disapproved

985
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: and that Hitler would frequently ignore her in public, merely

986
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: passing her an envelope of money until the end of

987
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: the At the end of the evening, when she was

988
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: finally a lot of room in the Berlin Chancellery, she

989
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: was forced to use a back entrance in case anyone

990
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: saw her. Hitler and his henchman tried their hardest to

991
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: keep Eva out of the spotlight and forbade any picture

992
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: of her to be published because they were keen to

993
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: project the idea that he was married to Germany. Yet

994
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: Eva herself ensured the opposite for posterity. She was an

995
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: early adopter of cine film and made endless home movies.

996
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: Today she would have been constantly on Facebook, instagramming her

997
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: meals and taking selfies at the Berghoff. One of her

998
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: more astonishing ambitions was to star one day in a

999
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: biopic of her life with the man she always called Wolf.

1000
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, she's sounds like a pretty normal teenager dating

1001
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: a famous guy exactly. I also like what Jane has

1002
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: to say about the Hitler is Weird at sex Smith's

1003
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: because I think what she says rings true with an

1004
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: awful lot of the other research I've read quote it

1005
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: is impossible to peer behind the bedroom door. But suggestions

1006
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: that Hitler was sexually avoid because of his obsession with

1007
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: hygiene is contradicted by observers of the time, who suggests

1008
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: that Hitler and Eva did share a bed as a

1009
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 1: couple the interconnecting bedrooms at the Berghoff and Hitler's ballet.

1010
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: Heinz Ling attests that they would go to bed together

1011
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: while Hitler's made Pauline Kohler wrote that Hitler is not

1012
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: strongly sexed. Ava Brown's correspondence reveals nothing unusual, certainly not

1013
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: on the lines of fully clothed sex, except that once

1014
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: war had broken out, Hitler wasn't able to get interested.

1015
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: She used to show her friends in nineteen thirty eight

1016
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: photograph of Neville Chamberlain on a sofa in Hitler's Munich flat, saying,

1017
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: if only he knew what goings on that sofa has

1018
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: seen like we fucked on the sofa, and then the

1019
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: Prime Minister of England said on it that sounds like

1020
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: a normal teenager, like yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you're

1021
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: still on the fence, if you're still on team. Hitler

1022
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: was a kind of demonic sexual force rather than just

1023
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: a gross shitty dude whound up in power through cunning

1024
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: and luck in the cowardice of arrogant men. Well, I'd

1025
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: like to read one more Hitler story. Mimi Reader came

1026
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: back to Hitler after their nineteen thirty one liaison. Uh.

1027
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: This was a nineteen thirty four when Hitler was in power.

1028
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: Gilly had been dead for three years, her room had

1029
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: been turned into a shrine, and Hitler was unofficially with

1030
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: Ava Brown. Now Eva doesn't live with him at this point,

1031
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: because of course he's got to appear married to Germany,

1032
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: That old, that old Germany. This gave dear Feur the

1033
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: ability to invite Mimi in when she knocked on his door.

1034
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to quote from explaining Hitler's right up of

1035
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: Mimi's recollections. Quote. Once again, the relationship came to life

1036
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: once again. He asked her to stay with him as

1037
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: his lover. She insists she will not be part of

1038
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: an illicit relationship. She wanted to be married and to

1039
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: have children. Suddenly, Hitler had a fit of rage. He shouted,

1040
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: why do you women only think of having children? He

1041
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: kept shouting. It was around three am that he could

1042
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: not take care of a woman. He shouted that he

1043
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: had a big mission to fulfill. They argued for two

1044
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: more hours than they departed, never to see each other again.

1045
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: Who dodged several bullets? Mimi, you really did? And yeah,

1046
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: it's also so crazy because it's like, Okay, you're going

1047
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: after women that are raised in convents, motherfucker, like the

1048
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: only purpose for sex in the Catholic Church is procreation,

1049
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: and then you're mad at them, like you're taught all

1050
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: the same ship. Oh god, Yeah, I think what like

1051
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 1: maybe Hitler was in the poop and pee and maybe

1052
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: he liked sex with clothes on. Maybe not. At the

1053
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: end of the day, the overwhelming picture I'm left with

1054
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: a Hitler is that he was the same Like every

1055
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: woman has dated a shitty guy just like Hitler. They

1056
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: just didn't wind up in charge of the country. Yeah, exactly.

1057
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: He's like a selfish, fucking idiot dude that needs to

1058
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: go to therapy. He's selfish, he's famous, and he's going

1059
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: to take as much advantage of that as he can.

1060
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: He's a habitual liar because he's fucking Hitler, and he's

1061
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: a motion only abusive and he screams when he doesn't

1062
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: get his way. Ye, Like, yeah, it's a he's a

1063
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: gas lighting piece of ship. Yeah, he's a Yeah, Hitler

1064
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: turns out piece of ship. Hitler turns out piece of ship.

1065
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: But not like, of course he's a bad person, but

1066
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: he's not. Like what's scarier to me about this is that,

1067
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: like there's nothing special about him. Yeah, he's just classic

1068
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 1: piece of ship. It's just a normal piece of ship. Yeah,

1069
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: it's nothing out of the ordinary. And that means, like

1070
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: the good thing that means is that like we we

1071
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: as human beings, will never deal with supernatural evil settling

1072
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: down upon the world and forcing a nightmare regime on us.

1073
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: But it also means that there's millions of guys like

1074
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: this walking around who if they ever gotten to power,

1075
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: this is that kind of potential exactly. So this is

1076
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: the this is the blueprint for those kind of guys. Yeah. Yeah,

1077
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: and that's why when you look at the fucking evolution

1078
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: of in cell culture on the Internet, they're really in

1079
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: the Nazis. Yeah, and they're really into isis too. They

1080
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: love them both. Yeah, they love the murder and the

1081
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: hatred and like the ability to do violence on like

1082
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: a world you feel is wrong to you, And yea,

1083
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: they all have issues with women, and none of them fuck,

1084
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: and none of them like ask why a woman might

1085
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: not be into them immediately. They all have that reaction

1086
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: when like a buddy's like, maybe just learned to dance

1087
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: or whatever. That's the fucking Hitler. I want people to

1088
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: like think about when they imagine what kind of man

1089
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: could do the things he did, The kind of guy

1090
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: whose friend is like, well, maybe learn to dance and

1091
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: that girl who likes dancing will be interested in you,

1092
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: And he just starts screaming like there's is if I

1093
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: could improve? Yeah, exactly, I'm already a perfect being. I

1094
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: am a perfect being me fourteen year old Horny Hitler

1095
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: is Yeah, no, that's kin Hitler. Yeah, I mean Hitler.

1096
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: He's the worst. I mean, but he's not, is the

1097
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: thing exactly, he's not. He's like, he's perfectly average. Yeah,

1098
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: he's He's a perfectly average, shitty person who wound up

1099
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: in a position of power and did the kind of

1100
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: things that like, comparing him to a serial killer is wrong.

1101
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: Comparing him to one of these in cell kids who

1102
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: goes on a mass shooting rampage or drives a van

1103
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: into a sorority house or whatever to kill. That's who

1104
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: to compare him to. Yeah, that's much more accurate, Yeah

1105
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: for sure. And he I think that that is one

1106
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 1: way to look at sort of the Holocaust, is that

1107
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: like it was a reaction of like anger at not

1108
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: winning this war and wanting to do as much damage

1109
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: as you could. And there's like an attitude of that

1110
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: about like the destruction of Berlin that like the reason

1111
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: he didn't pull out of Berlin, or the reason he

1112
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: didn't surrender and just shoot himself that way and spare

1113
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: the city and people. As he was like, no, if

1114
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna lose, all of us are going to die,

1115
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: fucking Germany taking everybody with me. You didn't fain hard

1116
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: enough for me exactly. Like that was literally like some

1117
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: of the ship he would say, is that, like if

1118
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,479
Speaker 1: Germany doesn't win, we deserve to be destroyed. Like he's

1119
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: just a shitty, angry little prick with a temper who

1120
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: you know if if I mean get man like to

1121
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: get really dark on you. Maybe in a society where

1122
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: young men like that go on mass shooting spreeze, they're

1123
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: less likely to become hitler like I don't know if

1124
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: that's like good or whatever, but like Hitler doesn't have

1125
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: that option and just becomes Hitler. Like we're in dark

1126
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: territory here, But I do think he's that kind of guy. Yeah. Well,

1127
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: and it's also like it's being raised to think that

1128
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: you were special and then having the having that lie

1129
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: because nobody's special's special. There's a lot of people out

1130
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: there handler well, and like that's that's the big thing

1131
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: about so many of these intel guys is like they're

1132
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: raised to think that they're like the princes of their

1133
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: own little kingdom. Mama's boys, a mama's boy, Bruce V

1134
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: that pick up artist why living in his mom's basement,

1135
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: talking about how the Jews are behind everything, like it

1136
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: just keeps happening. Well, and then they're mad at they

1137
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: desperately need a woman. But they're mad at a woman

1138
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: because they think a woman sees them as weak, because

1139
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: they need them to feel special. Yeah, the idea that

1140
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: like a relationship with it give and take, and that

1141
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: you both have things to teach each other. Like he

1142
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be taught anything, no, no, no, no no,

1143
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: he just wants pure allegiance, which is why he goes

1144
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: after sixteen year olds. Yeah, probably why his dad went

1145
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: after sixteen year olds, absolutely repeatedly. Yeah, it's a power trip,

1146
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: it's a power trip. Yeah. You don't want equal of

1147
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: any kind, you know, fucking terrifying. Yeah yeah, yeah, no,

1148
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: just a real piece ship. So if you've ever wondered

1149
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: what happens if you give one of those in cells

1150
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: on Reddit the most powerful military force in continental Europe

1151
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: it was World War Two, that's what happens. Yeah, no, exactly,

1152
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: they'll just keep pushing boy, Howdie Hitler. Yeah, so teach

1153
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: your sons to dance. Teach your sons to dance. And

1154
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: that's the only thing we've learned today. Teach your sons

1155
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: to dance. You can dance if you want to. Ye.

1156
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: Make make sure if you vote for someone, they don't

1157
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: date teenagers, at the very least, at the released, at

1158
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: the very least mature. They're not dating teenagers, because that's

1159
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: how you get Hitler's. Yeah, that's how you get Hitler's.

1160
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: Don't let them funk their niece. Yeah. Can you make

1161
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: eye contact with a woman of your age without being

1162
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: filled with rage? Yeah? Yeah? Are you? Are you capable

1163
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: of like having a conversation with a woman without screaming, like, yeah, exactly. Also,

1164
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: are you capable of like seeing your dog misbehave without

1165
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: beating it and choking it and scaring a teenager? Yep? Hitler,

1166
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: God just um kind of man. There's his German shepherd

1167
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: didn't finish the job early. Yeah, no, I mean it

1168
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: was a goat that supposedly been off his dick. I

1169
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: wish that goat. I just ate the whole Hitler. Yeah, exactly,

1170
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 1: chew that tin can up. How different the world would

1171
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: be if we just had like a weird did you

1172
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: know that back in like the nineteen o nine a

1173
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: goat ata boy? What if like in the future, the

1174
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: only animals that can time traveler goats. So we did

1175
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: try to kill Hitler, but he only bit his The

1176
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: goat only just just got part of his dick. It was,

1177
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: and we actually just really made it worse than it

1178
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: was in the first place. Yeah, it would have been fine.

1179
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: Otherwise he would have just went on to become a

1180
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, like a like a sub and a dungeon.

1181
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the thing Hitler might have been

1182
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: happy with it, really gotten in touch with his demons. Yeah,

1183
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: for sure, he just wanted to be whipped. That's why

1184
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: he carried a whip with him everywhere. Yeah, somebody with

1185
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: me admitting that takes some courage that it does. It does?

1186
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: I mean it still does, you know. Like it's the

1187
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: more open people can be about the kinks and stuff

1188
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: like that, the and the more open sexually, the world

1189
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: can be more accepting than I think the lists. That's

1190
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: why I say this every day. I say it a

1191
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: lot to my roommates, to police officers during traffic stops.

1192
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: More dominatrix is the only thing that will protect us

1193
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: from more Hitler's truly, absolutely, that's I think the note

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00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna end on Brandy, We're gonna plug plus. Yeah.

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01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at brand Dazzle.

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Speaker 1: I E Posey with E y Um. I have an

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Speaker 1: That's the second Saturday. And that's some music of my alarm.

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Speaker 1: That's for no good reason, oh boy, but yeah those

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Speaker 1: are my plugs. Come see me at all the ship guys. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you if you currently know a young man who

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01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: you're worried is going down a hitlery path, tune them

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Speaker 1: into those shows. Maybe maybe open up his mind. A

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Speaker 1: little bit to some progressive comedy. Get him some dance

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Speaker 1: lessons to listen to my podcast, have a couple of men,

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Speaker 1: have me here, a couple of men laugh at themselves,

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Speaker 1: and you know, realize that it's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: Let's get him out there to get him a hug

1227
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: or hire a goat to bite his dick off. Either way,

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Speaker 1: you know it's up to you to fight the Hitler's

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Speaker 1: in your life. We all encounter a couple of Hitlers

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Speaker 1: out there. Hey, time traveling goats listening out there, Finish

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Speaker 1: the job next time, finish the job and metroactively render

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Speaker 1: this episode pointless. I am Robert Evans. You can find

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Speaker 1: us online Behind the Masters dot com. You can find

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Speaker 1: me on Twitter at I write Okay. The book culled

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Speaker 1: a brief history of vice, where I do drugs, which

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Speaker 1: of Hitler had done more of when he was young,

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Speaker 1: and that when he was old he might have also

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Speaker 1: come to some better conclusions about Zigo. I'm the podcast

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Speaker 1: I love forty percent of you.