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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is all football, no narrative.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with some heroes. Chris Westling to my left,

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Speaker 1: Gregg Rose, the thought of my ride. What's up boys?

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Speaker 1: All Right? Mark Sessler in the wilderness on this Monday.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's actually literal or figurative, but

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Speaker 1: probably both. He is out there solving uh unsolved crimes

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Speaker 1: or they guess they've been solved at the Manson murders

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Speaker 1: or whatnot. He's obsessed at them, right, he's Mark has

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Speaker 1: gone down to Manson wormhole. Uh, we'll leave it at that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost since the less we explain, you

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Speaker 1: just leave it open and Mark wants to get into

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Speaker 1: it more we can. But that's probably where he's right

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Speaker 1: now doing some investigating. I was just told before we

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Speaker 1: came in today. Big show. By the way, this is

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Speaker 1: our big ramp up week to free agency. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have Bucky Brooks a little later in the week bring

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Speaker 1: to Bring Back, Go Get My Lunch Jerk game to

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Speaker 1: make some predictions on free agency. And today we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get into the news and the franchise tags a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff to get to. But as I was coming

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Speaker 1: in the door, t d our great producer, uh, the

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Speaker 1: great Prince of Georgia I call him. Uh he not

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Speaker 1: until now, but I like it. Uh. He made me

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Speaker 1: aware that this week our show goes over ten million downloads.

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Speaker 1: That's also the ten million times tds. Right, they're gonna sell.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna celebrate the ten millions by retiring that that

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Speaker 1: is the essential celebration song. It's just time to find

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Speaker 1: something else, and we'll work with you to make it happen.

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Speaker 1: Come up with a song and better encapsulates that moment

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Speaker 1: better than celebration. Okay, alright, alright, So anyway, ten million

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Speaker 1: dollars and uh listeners, we have so much of them,

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Speaker 1: in fact, speaking of which we cannot have gotten literally

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Speaker 1: cannot have gotten to ten million downloads without our listeners.

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Speaker 1: So thank you to them. And that prompted us to

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Speaker 1: to check go over to the iTunes, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I think give us a rate. If you're in Stitcher,

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Speaker 1: ORB to listen to the show. Uh, so we checked

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Speaker 1: out iTunes, checked out the comments section, and uh, you

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Speaker 1: guys as always killed at great comments. So I'll refer

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Speaker 1: to my the gentleman on the left and the right

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Speaker 1: of me. To those who don't know, we also have videos. Uh,

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Speaker 1: these guys and you know in studio here West, give

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Speaker 1: me something. Would we read me a comment? There's a

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Speaker 1: top ten list that I liked on here, top ten

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Speaker 1: reasons too that I like around the league. Here we go,

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Speaker 1: who's it? Bye? You gotta give him a shout either

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Speaker 1: real James Earl Jones. All right, you know who you are. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a celebrity listener. You have to read this in

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Speaker 1: the voice of James Earl Jones. Oh, like Darth Vader forgets,

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Speaker 1: doesn't do impression. James Earl Jones played Darth Vader. We

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Speaker 1: got it, We got we got it. Oh you want

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Speaker 1: me to read a little couple? Yeah? Why not? Mark

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Speaker 1: Sessler a k a. The Quiet Storm roots for the

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Speaker 1: Browns who play in a factory of sadness. Occasionally Mark

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Speaker 1: finds sullis in the wilderness. What about one for West

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Speaker 1: Number four? Chris Wesley and a k a. The Scientist

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Speaker 1: a k a. The Mailman was once a Bengals fan,

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Speaker 1: but now claims no allegiance. He is the most knowledgeable,

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Speaker 1: but also the most hyperbolic. That's the most ridiculous sentence

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Speaker 1: I've ever read something like Greg on that list. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, let's see Greg Rosenthal a k a. The

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Speaker 1: Boss once played in the underground emo rock band Delaware.

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Speaker 1: He is the boss of this crew of misfits. He

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Speaker 1: I guess what all am I on there? I like, wait,

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Speaker 1: I was wait? No, Greg got his I want to

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Speaker 1: hear it. Dan Hans this is the host, a Jets

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Speaker 1: he steers the conversation towards him. Seriously, these comments are

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Speaker 1: awesome nine out of ten. Couldn't be more complimentary, But

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Speaker 1: it's always the ones that are negative that Yeah, grow

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Speaker 1: up one star. I mean that the NFL enterprise has

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Speaker 1: these children attempting to act like I'll just stop after that.

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Speaker 1: Good job. But there was one bearing me too write

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Speaker 1: yeah one, some Ravens fans called you the podcast was

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Speaker 1: great except for Dan Hans is a douche. I disagree

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Speaker 1: with that anyway. So everyone, even the people that send

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Speaker 1: And also all the people that are are trying to

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Speaker 1: to Roger Dell at three forty five Park Avenue in

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Speaker 1: we might be making some progress on that front. It's

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Speaker 1: all up to Greg to get it done though. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: do you think Roger has come across any of those hoping, Well,

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Speaker 1: It's great. It's great to be here and great to

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Speaker 1: be doing the show. Hopefully we'll get another ten million,

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Speaker 1: week away. So TV, let's sue some news. They're schemers,

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Speaker 1: schemers trying to control their little worlds? Is that the Joker?

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Speaker 1: and it's like, you know what's Zach? You're right for you,

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Speaker 1: You're right, z Drizzle. We're gonna miss you, budd. You

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Speaker 1: the market. Secondly, Greg, yes, you're thrown of ease that

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Speaker 1: let's let's get a little nervous, right because you you're

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Speaker 1: And I know he's probably a million dollars, but there

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Speaker 1: speaking of and the quest of lady Westling, have you

425
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: considered Tinder? Now? What's tinder? Come on, I know what,

426
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: I know what tinder is, but now I'm not gonna

427
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 1: do tinder. We one night, one boy in downtown Culver. Uh.

428
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: I was out with West and Mark and my wife

429
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 1: and we try to convince West to get on the

430
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: dating side. It didn't take to it too well. He

431
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: just wants to do it the old old fashioned way,

432
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: which I retect, go to a bar and make bad decisions.

433
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: That's the problem. Alright. So we're we're still working on that.

434
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: Chris Canty got cut by the Avens and Brandon Cofield

435
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: also got Barry Cofield. Oh excuse me, Barry I call

436
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: him Brandon. Who else was in Washington? Stephen Bowen and

437
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: he got of these old these old guys that you know,

438
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: you spent a lot of money. Washington's another sneaky team

439
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: to watch this year is spending a lot of money.

440
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: Don't you think they're kind of in that see I know,

441
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 1: but they've got they're kind of in that cycle where

442
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: they laid back for a few years. Now they're cutting

443
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 1: their old mistakes. Now they're ready to get They forgot

444
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: about Albert Haynesworth and crazy Scott mcgluen has has always

445
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: been a build through the draft guy. Okay, um, all right?

446
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: Anything else? Any other cuts? I think we covered all

447
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, we've been adding some of them. You know.

448
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: That's another tracker page. We have cooking right notable cuts. Yeah,

449
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: we've been doing that. We have our top one on

450
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: one list, which is up and so we're adding players

451
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: to the mix. So, for instance, Taiwan Branch Safety of

452
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 1: the Raiders, he got cut partline uh is up there

453
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 1: at ninety nine or so. That's something and somehow Michael

454
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: Vick remains at one oh one. Let's tell me the

455
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 1: mechanics behind that. Well, we add people to the list

456
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: and we take people off as there's cuts, as there's tags.

457
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 1: But no matter what Michael Vick, they what it wants

458
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 1: to be a big name. Yeah, you gotta. And here

459
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: it was Teed Gain or Kenny Britt Right, you can't.

460
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: You can't have Ron Parker sitting there at one on one.

461
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 1: It's just a bad way to end things. And you know,

462
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: these these numbers are all, you know, made up in

463
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: nonsense anyway, And speaking of speaking of bad, bad things,

464
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: I should bring it up just because it's kind of

465
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: the eight pound grill in the room. There has been

466
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: some some feedback, whether it be Greg doing radio shows

467
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: in Missouri or some stuff you've seen on Twitter West

468
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: where people are under the impression some people in the

469
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: media this is Greg Rosenthal's top one on one list,

470
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: and perhaps Chris Westling is somehow in in Greg's shadow,

471
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: which could be leading to some tension. I don't sense

472
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: it necessarily right now, but I'm not gonna say it's

473
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: not there your thoughts, guys, there's no tension. I just

474
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: thought it was funny. I was checking out one of

475
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: the SB Nation blogs and they wrote was a Baltimore

476
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: beat down. It's something with it they should change then

477
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: with a ridiculous name, and they wrote the NFL and

478
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal have released their top one agent. They have

479
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: no clue. I like it's me and the NFL too.

480
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm like a whole separate entity. No, they have no

481
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: clue that I'm a corporeal entity at all. They just

482
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: I don't exist. They ignored in the radio station. So

483
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: I tweeted that and told him they were dead to

484
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: me and have not heard back from them. I listened

485
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: to Greg did a radio hit in Kansas City, and

486
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: I listened to it, and uh, I quite enjoyed it.

487
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: Uh again, it was all Greg's list. It's kind of

488
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: if you did you made. You went out of your

489
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: way to bring West up fans of the Rocky series.

490
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: Uh well, maybe tie this to Rocky five, where in

491
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: this case West you're Tommy the Gun, Tommy the machine gun,

492
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: and uh you are Rocky Bobo the trainer. Greg. But

493
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: you should know this ended with a street fight Rocky five.

494
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: I don't think we acknowledged that Rocky five exists. I

495
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: don't like my chances in a street fight with we

496
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: all right, so we we touched on in Dominan sue,

497
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: but I really we all decided when we were planning

498
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: the show, we got really digging on that. And and Greg,

499
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: you wrote just an excellent piece, uh today on the

500
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: around the NFL site and Dominicans. Who's six best landing spots.

501
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: There's gonna be no shortage of suitors for the great

502
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. So, uh, we'll go one by one on

503
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: this list. Let's start right. You have right at the

504
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: top of this you don't rank. Is this a ranking

505
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: most likely to least? Pretty much? But this was a

506
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: tough one because, like, who couldn't use Dominican sue. Usually

507
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: you're picking teams that have a need. It's like everyone

508
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: has a need for Dominican su This is gonna be

509
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: like a fifty or sixty million dollar investment ultimately, right,

510
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 1: with guaranteed money. Right. And but the crazy thing now

511
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 1: is there's you know, you can make the case twenty

512
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: teams have the cap space in the room to really

513
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: do it. We're not in the NFL anymore where many

514
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: teams are in problems. I mean there's like the Steelers,

515
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: the Saints, and that's about it. Cowboys. So at the

516
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: top of the list you have the Oakland Raiders and Uh,

517
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: this is coming off. I thought it was. It was interesting.

518
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: I was working, uh the solo shift on Sunday and

519
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: Lamar Woodley got cut and it brought back memories of

520
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: what a train wreck. Uh. Reggie Mackenzie's first offseason with

521
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: money was last year. Do you think this time he'll

522
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: just go all in and grab a guy that's actually

523
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: in his prime one of our top forty guys by

524
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: the way, last year, Lamar Woodley, I do think Mackenzie

525
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: could go in. I think Mark Davis is motivated to

526
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: go in. They have to spend a lot of cash

527
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: to get to the new salary cap floor, which is

528
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: a new rule that's part of the new collective bargain aguniment.

529
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: But it really kicks in this year and just doesn't

530
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: he seem like an Oakland Raider and Dominican Sue and

531
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 1: in Dominicans who's on the record saying he's letting his

532
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: agent pick where he goes. He's going which team gives

533
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: him the most money, and I think that can be Oakland.

534
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders seem like the exactly the kind

535
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: of team you used to drive the price up on

536
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: a better team. I don't know he's gonna go where where.

537
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's a difference of like one million

538
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: dollars or something like that or less, maybe, but he's

539
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: gonna go with the team that pays him the model.

540
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: He's on the record about saying that about his agent.

541
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: He's also on the record as saying he wants to

542
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: go wherever he can market himself the best. So I

543
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: think the two New York teams Dallas, Chicago, Oakland's not bad.

544
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: In a Bay area, he could do a lot of

545
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: like there's no there, they're renegade, you know stuff history

546
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: Raiders defense. I could see it. I could totally see it.

547
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: Plus this is also this is all the also the

548
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: team getting mentioned in reports, which you assume kind of

549
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: comes from his agent. I did talk to Ian uh

550
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: to get some background to try to say where I

551
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 1: might be right or wrong on this report, and the

552
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: Raiders make sense as a top pic. Have you ever

553
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: noticed that, Uh, this go get your Lunch game is

554
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: rigged because Greg always has inside info from his little

555
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: conversations with Ian. Yeah, I'm on to you. It's not

556
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: like I'm winning that much. So you're saying, even though

557
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: you have all this inside info, you're still not winning.

558
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: There was a time when when uh, we have this

559
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: drop a bunch of in her blowtorch and TD is

560
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: just completely forgotten about. It doesn't even have podcast, you

561
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: know that fires the hell's going on out here? Whoa, whoa, whoa?

562
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: What's going on? We're just gonna do our own drops.

563
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 1: I was just saying, we our last show, we did

564
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: an entire show about the scientists, and there was not

565
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: one bunch in burner blowtorch. Speaking of drops and how

566
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: you guys don't like the celebration job. I'm not a

567
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: huge fan of the heat cool because I thought it

568
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: was our podcast, That's what I thought it was. Well,

569
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: this is because we like you don't see me trying

570
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: to interrupt it when you go, hey boys, or whatever

571
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: it is you say at the top of the show,

572
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: what up? Boys, replaced all of our good drops and

573
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: put in twelve copies of celebrating What is this? You know?

574
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: It's it's make a better one in the better blow too.

575
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: That the reason why TV feels this way is because

576
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: the gold standard came up with that. It's like a

577
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: new coach coming in. And that's true. It is interesting

578
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: how you've basically kept the gold standard out of this room.

579
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: That's not true. It's very I got news to you

580
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: guys coming soon. Uh we go. The Detroit Lions are

581
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: second on this list, so Greg, even though the Sue

582
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: is gonna probably you would imagine, despite the Lions confidence

583
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: on the issue, he's probably gonna test the open market.

584
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: He could end up back in Detroit, which doesn't happen

585
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: very often. Well, they do have one big advantage, which

586
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: is that they can negotiate with him between now and

587
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: March seven, and you never know. They've just been so

588
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: confident publicly that I don't think they've given up on it.

589
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: So I'm not giving up on it either. Where's shaking

590
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: his head? They're the irrational confidence team. By the way,

591
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: I don't understand a Lions fans don't worry about Sue

592
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: possibly leaving because you guys hosted Kendall Langford. That's what's happening.

593
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: Here's fans. You want to talk about a team that

594
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: I could picture and Dominican Sue in the uniform number

595
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: three on the list of Chicago Barris. I could see

596
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: him in that uniform on Soldier Field, that torn up turf,

597
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: just doing damnage. If you linked to him since late

598
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: last year or two. So yeah, they have and that

599
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, they get linked for a reason. There's there's

600
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: someone talking about it. I'm not sure who it is,

601
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: but there's someone talking about it. And they have a

602
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: new general manager, new coach, ready to spend, ready to

603
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: make a splash. They know how good Sue is. Let's

604
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: do it. Here are two team. Your next two teams

605
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: don't excite me as much, the Jaguars and Colts. You're

606
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: gonna put in the Dominquin Sioux in the a f

607
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: C South, No, thank you, that's not where he belongs. Well,

608
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: they've got a coach, Gus Bradley, who I think could

609
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: do a good job with Sue, and they seem like

610
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: they're ready to spend some big money. I don't think

611
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: that's his biggest marketing opportunity in northeastern Florida. That's fair.

612
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: But if they're if they're saying, hey, we're the jaguarography there,

613
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: We've got no count no state income tax, and we're

614
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: gonna pay you ten million dollars more than any other team.

615
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,719
Speaker 1: The Jaguars would have to pay maybe a little bit

616
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: of a Jaguars tax here. Again, I love the city

617
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: of Indianapolis. I have been there for Super Bowl and

618
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: for common Very nice city, very nice people. Uh in

619
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: that city too cold in February. What a joke that was.

620
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: But you're not marketing yourself in Indy. Come on, what

621
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: do you mean? Well, but they're good team, you're That's

622
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: the part I don't get about the marketing. Forget the

623
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: marketing thing. First of all, it doesn't matter. And we're

624
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It doesn't matter what team you're on.

625
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers plays in like a small town when you

626
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: filled with well who works there, there's you know, there's

627
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: no industry there. It's like people and he's the biggest

628
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: star in the world, your biggest star in the league.

629
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: You hit on a point, though, because this is exactly

630
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: the idea of an athlete quote wanting to market himself.

631
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: This is how Marshawn Lynch ends up in Turkey on

632
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: behalf of an organization trying to promote football. When Marhawn

633
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: Lynch is trying to promote his brand, it's like it

634
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: just leads the dumb decisions. Just you know, you don't

635
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: have to go to Turkey to get more money and

636
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: get more famous. Marshall, just come back here and talk

637
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: to us here. Turkey is underrated though well from what

638
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: I've heard had seen, as they have great persons as

639
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: a potential vacation spot. People like Turkey. I'm just saying,

640
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: top five sneaky vacation spots. Turkey might make them get

641
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: out of here with that. No one else is buying this.

642
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: You guys just aren't aware. That's how. That's how it's sneaky,

643
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: sneaky Behind Newsbekistan finally on your list. The Miami Dolphins.

644
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins, Well, I don't want to see this

645
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: as a Jets fan, This one's interesting. Just let's let's

646
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: just say keep an eye on this one. It's kind

647
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: of a wild card, but let's just keep an eye

648
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: on this one. And let's see if Mike tannonbob the

649
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: new Dolphins when he says wild card has inside infil

650
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, they've made big splashes before

651
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: Mike Tannenbaum has, So let's let's see they're rebuilding that

652
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: two game blind's rigged. Greg has inside infill not like

653
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: anyone knows. I wish I knew. You gotta play on

654
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: the honor system. Honestly, when we play the Sandwich game,

655
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: which is very important in terms of morale for this group,

656
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: and we take it very seriously. We have a gifted

657
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: mathematician on Twitter that helps us track this stuff. You

658
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: can add two and three, this is great. If this

659
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 1: is the best the trash dock you guys can come

660
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: up with, said, Hey, you're too you'd know too much

661
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: about about the NFL. We can't even be in the

662
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: same games as you. Thanks. I mean, you're complimented me.

663
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: We're just saying, use your your conscience if if it

664
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: comes down to uh stuff, you know, I'm just saying

665
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: it's only fair. Well, you do have access to shadow.

666
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 1: We lead figures that we do not have the access

667
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: too here and you're in meetings like four hours a

668
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: day now, Yeah you think they even know how to

669
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: spell in Dominicans. Soon give you a break, uh and

670
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: uh okay. So then and then you have his wild Cars,

671
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: the Bills, Brown's Jets and Giants. Yeah, those are just

672
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: some you know, I got lazy after writing six teams

673
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: really and uh yeah they all have money, they could

674
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: all That's the thing. You could make a list of

675
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: fifteen teams that wouldn't be crazy to want in Dominicans

676
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: to all four of those teams have some nice caps

677
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: based definitely a need, not really a need. In the

678
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: New York with the Jets, well, if they thought that

679
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: would be interesting at least if they let snacks go, yeah, uh,

680
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: they would have the whole there. And oh man, but

681
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: Sue's not a no Sue, yeah right, it would just

682
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: be adding to their art their strength. So next to Wilkerson,

683
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, and Richardson and rich oh Sheldon. Oh

684
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: all right, I should have put the Redskins because when

685
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: I was making this list, I was thinking of ownership.

686
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: That's what you got to think about when you think

687
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: about Sue is ownership spending lots of money, so bills.

688
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: They have new owners they're ready to spend. I think

689
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: the Brown's ownership is really desperate right now. I think

690
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: Woody Johnson could be a little desperate. Right, Maybe perhaps

691
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: you have to throw the Redskins in there. Brought you

692
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: brought up the Browns were meant to hit that In

693
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: the news, Josh McCown signed a three year deal with

694
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: the Breath, uh, which of course I think it led

695
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: to Mark ending up in a bar on Friday night,

696
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: uh and making a long walk home. Josh McCown is

697
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel's UH competition. It looks like Brian Hoyer gone

698
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: McCown in the house West. You were with Mark on

699
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: on Friday after work. Tell me his headspace at that moment.

700
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: We actually walked. Uh. It was a good minute walked

701
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: to UH an area place called Lost in Found and UH.

702
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: I think for at least twenty of those minutes we

703
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: were talking Josh McCown. He hates the move with a passion.

704
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: I think it was the most sensible move that could

705
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: have made. I don't know. They already decided Brian Hoyer.

706
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: They decided Brian Hoyer is not a starting NFL smart

707
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: So why bring him back and have him clashed with

708
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel or be promised one thing and not delivered.

709
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: You bring him accown, he can start and not embarrass you,

710
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: and he's gonna mentor Manzel. They've called him like a

711
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: coach player for what he did last year in Tampa.

712
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: It makes all the sense in the world to me,

713
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: I guess. But if it's weird to me to make

714
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: any case, the account is particularly better than Matt Moore

715
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: or Michael Vick or Jake locker. I guess it's a

716
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: different kind of quarterback, so I'll take him out of

717
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: the mix. But to me, it's like, Okay, mccowny, they're

718
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: all about the same. One of those guys can help

719
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: mentor your your second year more. I don't know. I

720
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: don't know anything about his mentoring abilities. It's all I know.

721
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: It's all funny money. But any deal for Josh McCown

722
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: in two thousand fifteen that can max out of twenty

723
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: million just seems a little rich for me. I don't know.

724
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: It's like a one year contract. Yeah, I mean, ultimately

725
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: it's probably for one year unless he really exceeds expectations

726
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: and then Mark can be moaning about some other quarterback

727
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: next year on a walk to a bar. That's garanteed.

728
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: All right, Finally we are going to get our friend,

729
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: our colleague. He hails from a New Jersey, Well hails

730
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: from New Jersey, I believe, but he lives in a

731
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: haunted mansion in the Garden State. His name is Connor

732
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: or some people call him space Ghost, and welcome to

733
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: you Around the NFL podcast. Connor, what's going on? Fellas?

734
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: I forgot? We always forget. You're a Browns fan too,

735
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: by the way, So what was your thoughts on Josh McCown.

736
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: He doesn't like to he doesn't like to let that

737
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: be known because he was a real journe over a

738
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: while or whatever. That's over, that that part of your

739
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: career is over. I mean, Mark would know better than I,

740
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: but it's just yeah, I think I've just been conditioned

741
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: not to be excited about any quarterback ever, like, regardless

742
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: of of cedigree and especially Josh McCown. That it just

743
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: doesn't do it for me. M hmm. Yeah, we'll see

744
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: how it works out. So anyway, the reason we have

745
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 1: Connor on here is, uh, he wrote just a scorcher

746
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: I thought on the Around the NFL blog that was

747
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: posted today, and I'll tell you scorcher, it's going up

748
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: on two d comments that people are really responding to

749
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: Connor's work. I know you're new here, but when Dan

750
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: complements your article, just be aware there's no chance he's read.

751
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: Don't believe. I don't believe anything anyone says. He's got

752
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: a little Eddie Haskell. Uh Alright, So anyway, I loved it.

753
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: It was the name of the article, who will spend

754
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: big and free to see who will be quiet. So

755
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: you have a list here, uh five teams, and even

756
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: that you're throwing a bonus team which gets people excited.

757
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: Uh So I will list the first three and order

758
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: number one. You have the Cults who have forty million

759
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: quote to quote, Honor Connor burning a hole in Ryan

760
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: Grigson's pocket. The Raiders at number two. Well, you just

761
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: talked about the Raiders and Sue being a potential destination spot,

762
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: and the New York Jets and Woody Johnson at three,

763
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: So let's start with those first three teams. We've talked

764
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: about the Raiders and Jets a little bit, but what's

765
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: your take on why they should be thought of as

766
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: big time spenders. Well, I think the Jets obviously, I

767
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: mean Woody Johnson always kind of strikes me as a

768
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: very reactionary owner. So the criticism of Mike Tannebaum on

769
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: the way out was that he mismanaged the cap so

770
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: he hired another CAP guy to fix that. And now

771
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 1: the CAP guy that he just fired had a tendency

772
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: of not spending the surplus of free agency money that

773
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: they had, So now he's going to force the next

774
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: guy to spend the surplus of free agency money. I

775
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: think that and just kind of cyclical, and you know,

776
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: I really think they need to give the fans something

777
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: to hope for with the new head coach and a

778
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: new GM, just some pieces to put around, especially if

779
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna lead on Geno Smith and try to make

780
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: him your quarterback for another year. And then the Raiders, Um,

781
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: you know, like Greg said on his NFL Now hit,

782
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: which I paid very much attention, Yes, um, you know,

783
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: Reggie McKenzie is on his way out. And this is

784
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: what you do when you're a GM. I mean you

785
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: throw money at the problem and hope that you make

786
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs and get another contract extension. So I think

787
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: those are two that are just kind of very obvious

788
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: and and once it will see a lot of activity

789
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: for this this offseason and the and the cults. I

790
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: would think that Ryan Grigson's under a great deal of

791
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: pressure this year. I would think if this is a

792
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: team they they're expecting to compete, he hasn't been. He

793
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: hasn't been to quote damage at Gangbusters, I think is

794
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: a GM. His records good though his records they got there,

795
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: they've won, I mean, well, yeah, but number twelve is

796
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: a big reason why you think forty million, uh, you

797
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: think that they will be pretend really the biggest spender

798
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: of all. I think so, just because, like you said,

799
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: the way that last season ended getting blown out, um,

800
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, and and just appearing like such kind of

801
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: a second fiddle. As far as when it comes to,

802
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, teams with elite quarterback, I mean, he's got

803
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: to put everything around him. I mean, he needs the

804
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: running back, he needs helping the offensive line, he needs

805
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: to pass rush, and he needs more guys for Andrew

806
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: Luck to throw too. So I think he can get

807
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: some version of a lot of that stuff on the

808
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: market this year. And I really do think that he

809
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: needs to bring this team within an actual, legitimate here

810
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: shot of the super Bowl. And I think he knows that.

811
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: So I think we'll watch out for it. Will be

812
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 1: active early and often. But they're in a weird market.

813
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: They're in a weird spot because in theory they're close

814
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. They make the playoffs every year,

815
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: but the roster is terrible for the most part. I mean,

816
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: they have a lot of holes. If you look at

817
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: the rest of their team. There there's some really good

818
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,479
Speaker 1: players on it, but a lot of Holes breaks high

819
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: on this list every year because he has to keep

820
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: spending to fix the mistakes he did the year before. Right,

821
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: he just cut wreckige friends like the Frampa Bay Buccaneers.

822
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: Arthur Jones didn't really work out last year. He's made

823
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: some big Lauren Landry, I mean he's made some good

824
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: constar cheerlest Donald Thomas with with with Vante Davis was

825
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: a good trade, resigned him. Well, I was gonna say

826
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: trades better than he signs. But Trent Richardson, were you

827
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: making a point? I forgot that point. Okay, you made point. Okay,

828
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: I thought you were going somewhere else. You go somewhere else.

829
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: It was good dripping blood here for you. I thought

830
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: you did better work on the Kansas City or radio spot.

831
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: But all right, you have the Browns at four, the

832
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: Giants at five, and then your bonus team is the

833
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: Bills and Connor if you can touch on them. I

834
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting your take on why the Bills

835
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: could be big spenders because you cannot underestimate, uh, you know,

836
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan's influence on a on a person that he

837
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: hasn't really spent a lot of time with, Like I mean,

838
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: Mike Tannenbaum would just do anything that Rex said as

839
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: far as and you just looked at kind of that

840
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: disastrous two thousand eleven team and even the years leading

841
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: up to it. He's like, man, wouldn't it be cool

842
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: if we signed with Damian Thomason or you know, Jason

843
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 1: Taylor or yeah, Tim Tebow and Mike kendm was like, Okay,

844
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: you know what, why not? You know, And I think

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a similar situation in Buffalo where

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Speaker 1: he's such a strong personality that he's gonna walk in

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Speaker 1: there and be like, man, it'd be awesome if we

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Speaker 1: had an adopt and Dominican sue and then you know,

849
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Speaker 1: we'll just kind of dovetail from there. You know, we'll see,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what he ends up doing. But he's just

851
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Speaker 1: such a strong force and he gets I mean, look

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Speaker 1: at how many first round picks on defense he got

853
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Speaker 1: when he was with the Jet I think Mark Sanchez

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Speaker 1: was the only one on ofense. So I mean, it's, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things that I think you

856
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: can't underestimate just the relationships that will add there. You

857
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: have five teams on your laying low list, no bonus team,

858
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Speaker 1: which I'm disappointed in, but still there's a good five.

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Speaker 1: Here's the list. Why not just list six teams and

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00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 1: not have a bonus? Everything about that. I want everyone

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00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: to feel like they're getting a little something. So I

862
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: felt like, yeah, it like leaves something in your head

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Speaker 1: after your rita or joint. It's like, man, I thought

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Speaker 1: that took something extra of that. This one goes to eleven. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: laying low. This is the list in order, Seahawks, Steelers, Niners, Saints, Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm surprised or you guys. Take you guys, the

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Speaker 1: to scientists to my right left want to take you

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Speaker 1: to task on the final team there. I was shocked

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Speaker 1: to see the Jaguars in the list. I'm convinced they

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Speaker 1: will be spending money. Don't they have to hit the floor,

871
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: Like you were talking, they gotta spend. They're ready to

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Speaker 1: spend their desperate So my reasonings for putting them there was,

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Speaker 1: I think that they're going to spend to get to

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Speaker 1: the floor, like that is a given. They have to

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00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: spend that amount of money. But I mean, how how

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Speaker 1: desperate do you want to be in free agency? If

877
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Speaker 1: you're kind of a new GM and still kind of

878
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: a new coach with a little bit of leeway and

879
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 1: a young quarterback. There's still another yearrothy away from the playoffs.

880
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: You kind of want to match his rise with kind

881
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: of the peak of the veterans that you're gonna sign.

882
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: And it just makes no sense to go like all

883
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: raiders on your roster right now. I mean, it's been

884
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Speaker 1: enough to get to the floor, but I mean, you know,

885
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Speaker 1: you You've got some former Seahawks coaches down there, You've

886
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: got people that know what they're doing. It's all about drafting, development,

887
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: turning the roster. And I think that Dave Colbell is

888
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: smart enough to realize that, well, they're not gonna go

889
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: Raiders on the roster because nobody would be dumb enough

890
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: to go Raiders on their roster and signed a bunch

891
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: of over thirty year olds. But this team last year

892
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Speaker 1: signs a Beatles, a guy who was in the prime

893
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: of his career. They tried to sign Alex Mack who

894
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Speaker 1: was in the prime his career. So you can see

895
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: them going after got Red Bryant. Yeah, you can see

896
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: them going after Byron Maxwell and Jordan Cameron, maybe a

897
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: Julius Thomas wanted, you know, a couple of guys, right,

898
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: I think enough, like we said, enough to get to

899
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: that that threshold. But I mean I just don't you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't see what a general manager would think. You know, hey,

901
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: let's get Julius Thomas in here. I mean, that's really

902
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: just that's gonna be the one edge that we need.

903
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: Or even Julius Thomas and Adrian Peterson, is that really

904
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: going to make them well? I mean, they went all

905
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: in with Blake Bortles, they might as well try to

906
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: build something around him. Makes sense to me. I also

907
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: don't think they have that much time. They were terrible

908
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: last year. You know, no one wants there to admit that.

909
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,959
Speaker 1: The expectations were for them to be a lot better.

910
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: They have not really made any progress since Mike Malarkey

911
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: left town, which is not, you know, a good thing.

912
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: They need to show progress this year or else. I

913
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: don't think they will be there next year. That's just

914
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: how the NFL works. And if they're spending money, they

915
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: don't even have guys to lock up the long term deals.

916
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: You can't even identify cord players on that team, Like,

917
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Speaker 1: who who are you gonna sign Jonathan Cyprian m hmm

918
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: bi uh Connor, before you go, UH just want to

919
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: apologize for getting you caught up in the Instagram boy

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00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: stuff at the comboy inadvertently sent out a tweet when

921
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: the starter at the forty yard Dash, the Steelers employee

922
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: uh told Connor to put his phone away and then

923
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: it took off viral. E But it was a different

924
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: Instagram guy, so you weren't even the guy, but some people,

925
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: including dead Spend thought initially it was you. I had

926
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: something to do with that happening. I want to apologize. See,

927
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Speaker 1: my only issue is the real Instagram guy is balding,

928
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: and only that was only the mistaken identities. That was

929
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Speaker 1: the only thing I cared about. But otherwise, you know,

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00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: we're cool, Okay, cool, very good. Alright. That's Connor or,

931
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Speaker 1: our new Jersey correspondent for around the NFL. Thank you, Connor,

932
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, so gentlemen. Good stuff from Connor, always good.

933
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Speaker 1: Connor is a pro. We will be back before we

934
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Speaker 1: do all that. We have a new entry for the

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Speaker 1: Here it goes. It's stupid. I like it just because

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Speaker 1: it's different. But I think we should mix in a

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Speaker 1: bunch of different ones. Yeah, I like you, this is

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Speaker 1: one entry. This is I like your dancing with it.

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Speaker 1: That makes let me take I'm gonna take a picture

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Speaker 1: of you guys dancing again, and I'm gonna put up

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Speaker 1: on our site. You're gonna want to throw in some ONYX. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just do it, slam got Hey, guys are awesome, awesome.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that's pretty good though. Yeah, we're getting closer

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Speaker 1: to current, like at some point we'll get into the

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Speaker 1: two thousands. I'm looking forward to him at some point. Alright. Good,

947
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Speaker 1: thank you guys, And uh, you know what, I apologize

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Speaker 1: TD gave me a shot at on I am about

949
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Speaker 1: my comment about being our podcast. It's your podcast, to buddy,

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Speaker 1: I know you. You put a lot of effortence eight

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Speaker 1: that he does, right, Yeah, exactly, I don't know one

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Speaker 1: of four. Yeah, okay, anyway, you know what, I take

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Speaker 1: it back. I still feel it right, and it existed

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Speaker 1: for more than a year before you apology rescinded. But

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Speaker 1: I the same team, the same same team, all right,

956
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Speaker 1: So that's it. We will be back if you're again.

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Speaker 1: When West's Toaster is coming up after the free agency

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Speaker 1: madness ties down. So hit up at producer producer t

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Speaker 1: D if you want to take West on, but don't

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00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: do it unless you know football, because you're gonna embarrass yourself.

961
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Speaker 1: And it's gotta be a good tweet though. You gotta

962
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Speaker 1: you gotta be a good tweet to get t D.

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Speaker 1: I want it, I want I want it. No, that's

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Speaker 1: not And you know people have embarrassed themselves. That guy

965
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Speaker 1: from Canada that came on West he was a nice

966
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: gentleman who um seemed to be enjoying his relaxation a

967
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Speaker 1: little too much. He was on drugs, is what is

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Speaker 1: getting at. Don't do that either, don't do drugs. We

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Speaker 1: had a guy trading in him alaysed geat it out.

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Speaker 1: We had a guy who teaches English in Japan. What

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Speaker 1: about ice man? Get that too? So go a lot

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Speaker 1: of people, all right, a lot of good, good candidates,

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Speaker 1: it looks like, so keep sending that in. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back on Wednesday with Bucky Brooks, who's gonna be a

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00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: weekly guest as we get closer to the draft. So

976
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Speaker 1: that's it for Monday's edition of Around the NFL podcast.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with Mark Cesler and Wednesday. By the way,

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hands is signing off for the Mailman, the

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Speaker 1: Boss T Day and Z dressl behind the glass till

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Speaker 1: Wednesday m