1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day at Bloomberg 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: dot com, the Radio plus mobile app, and on your radio. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg business flash from Bloomberg World Handquarters, 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: Signed Charlie Pellett, Hesse and P five hundred. Index closing 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: near a record strongest job gains since October, giving stocks 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: another leg up. SMP climbing thirty two points to twenty 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: one twenty nine, a gain of one and a half percent. 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Naz dac rallied eighty points today, up one point six 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: percent to forty nine fifty six down. 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Well get in line. Chinese companies have agreed 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: to pay at least four hundred million euros over the 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: next two years for a c Milan formerly owned by 22 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: Silvio Berlisconi, and the sale comes as Chinese investment in 23 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: European football has grown rapidly. Last month, Chinese retail group 24 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: Sooning Holdings paid about three hundred million dollars for a 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: seventy stake in inter Milan, another soccer soccer team. Why 26 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: has this interest so popular? Let's find out from Chris Russo, 27 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: managing director in the tech, media and telecom group of 28 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Hulahan Loki, and he joins us in studio. Chris, thanks 29 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: for coming in, Thank you for having me. So why 30 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: would anyone pay four hundred million euros or three hundred 31 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: million dollars for a European soccer team. Well, I think 32 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: what you've been seeing over the last couple of years 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: is the economics of these teams get a lot better. 34 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: Part of that is because of new TV right steals 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: that are really becoming a big, large, compelling revenue streams 36 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: for these teams, especially in the ep L and some 37 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: of the other major territories. I think what you're also 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: seeing is that Europe is where the action is right 39 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: now in terms of teams being available. When you think 40 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: about the United States, there really aren't that many pro 41 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: teams that have sold in the past couple of years, 42 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: So Europe is really the opportunity that people are looking at. Well, 43 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: do people those still look at European teams and maybe 44 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: South American teams as the place to get the premier 45 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: soccer teams because they've been doing it for so long, 46 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: right and and I think that's one of the reasons 47 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: why the sports more popular. There's so many people who 48 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: come in the United States to live they're watching this 49 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: sport on top of all the kids that's played now 50 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: for so long, and become soccer fans to a certain extent. Well, well, 51 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: clearly in other parts of the world soccer has been 52 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: popular for longer, but now what you see happening in 53 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: the United States is more and more young fans are 54 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: becoming English Premier League ands La Liga fans, etcetera. But 55 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 1: you're also seeing a lot of strength in Major League 56 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: Soccer as well, where franchise fees have gone from about 57 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: ten million dollars to a hundred million dollars over the 58 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: last ten years. So I think both in terms of 59 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: the U S teams and the international teams, there's been 60 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: a lot of growth. Tell us about some of the 61 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: US investors who have been purchasing these European and English 62 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: soccer teams. Sure, I recently Josh Harris, who's ahead of 63 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: Apollo Investments, invested in Crystal Palace. UH. Jason Levian, who 64 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: owns a d C United, just bought Swansea City. UH. 65 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: There are a number of existing investors, the Malcolm Glazer 66 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: family UH and Stan Cronkie. So they're about six Premier 67 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: League teams now that are owned by Americans, And I 68 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: think it's becoming viewed as a better investment again, in 69 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: part because the economics are better, in part because there's 70 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: a perception that there's even more growth ahead for soccer, 71 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: both in the US and overseas. Overseas, I'm surprised because 72 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: I would think that overseas it's already so hot, so 73 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: strong in many country teas, that's really the only major 74 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: sport you have. You don't have, you know, four or 75 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: five like the United States stays. You know. I think 76 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: that that in terms of maybe the rights fees in 77 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: in Europe, those are are strong, but there are also 78 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: opportunities to sell the product via TV and China in 79 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: the developing world, in the US and South America. So 80 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: a lot of the revenue streams are not not only 81 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: being driven by what's happening in Europe, but by the 82 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: TV distribution to other parts of the world. Well, I 83 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: note that part of your experience the lengthy list, but 84 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: part of your experiences the NFL Internet network. That's that 85 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: business model. Tell us how that can apply to some 86 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: of these teams. Well, I think what you're seeing with 87 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of teams, especially the most 88 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: popular ones, is they're looking at themselves as media brands 89 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: onto themselves. So they're creating over the top networks, video 90 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: networks that are reaching fans directly, not necessarily in their 91 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: home territories, but in other parts of the world. So 92 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: if you're Manchester United, you now have a way to 93 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: deliver great video content two fans all over the world 94 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: and be able to charge for that. So I think 95 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: the dig revolution has really opened up a lot of 96 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: new revenue streams for these global brands. You know, and 97 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: yet there's still people who just can't bear to watch 98 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: soccer live on you know in person or on television 99 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: because there's not a scoring, it takes too long, etcetera, etcetera. Well, 100 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: I think I think fans in the US especially are 101 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: getting a lot more sophisticated in the way they watch 102 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: the game and understand the beauty and excitement of a 103 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: great corner kick or a great pass. And so I 104 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: think as people get more involved in the sport, they 105 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: become to they come to appreciate things other than just 106 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: the score. And also the technology that is used in 107 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: television to show the match has changed absolutely. There are 108 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: are more interesting graphics and stats and data that make 109 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: it more compelling. I think you're able to see more 110 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: pregame and postgame information and recaps and highlights, so all 111 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: of that enhanced experience really makes it more interesting for 112 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: the fan. One of the aspects, of course, if this 113 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: unique summer of soccer, as you like to call Chris Throe, 114 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: So the Olympics later this summer are going to feature 115 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: the powerhouse US women's soccer team. But are It seems 116 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: like the money and the interest in these deals are 117 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: still much more with men's soccer the women's Is it 118 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: partly because there just isn't as much women's soccer around 119 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: the world as as men's well in the United States 120 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: that the women's U S women's team is very popular, 121 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: draws huge ratings when when when the team plays in 122 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: the Olympics of the World Cup. The the US women's 123 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: leagues have not been as successful as I think people 124 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: would have hoped, but I do think that that can 125 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: happen over time, and I think certainly there are a 126 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: lot of young girls who play soccer growing up who 127 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: are becoming fans later, and I think there really are 128 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: bright prospects for women's soccer going forward, even though I 129 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: think they have a ways to go in terms of 130 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: the commercial revenues that are generated. I just wonder if 131 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: you have any thoughts just quickly about the Olympics that 132 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: are gonna be taking place in Brazil. Is that gonna 133 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: come off all? Right? Yeah? I I hope it will. 134 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: I certainly read the same story as you do about 135 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: some of the channel as they're having there about Zeka, 136 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: et cetera. But I think once the game gets games 137 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: get going and people focus on the stories and the competition. Um, 138 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: my hope is that all all of that will be 139 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: behind us. Well, we gotta hope for the athletes. We 140 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: gotta hope for Brazil. They've had a lot of tough 141 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: stuff this year, Chris Rope, so we hope that you 142 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: will come back soon. 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