1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Up next, The Truth with Lisa both part of the Gang. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: You've heard a lot about Russian interference in the election, 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: but how much influence did China have over the election? Also, 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: did the coronavirus escape from a lab? And Uhan I 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: get you those answers on The Truth with Lisa Booth. 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Truth with Lisa Booth. I've got 7 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: an exciting show for you guys this week. My guest 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: is Republican Senator Tom Cotton from Arkansas. He's a graduate 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: of Harvard Law School and also clerked with the US 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit before enlisting in 11 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: the military. He went on to serve nearly five years 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: an active duty in the United States Military as an 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: infantry officer, doing tours both in Iraq and Afghanistan. While 14 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: an active duty, he earned the Bronze Star Medal, the 15 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: Combat Infantry Badge, and the Ranger tab. As a United 16 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: States Senator, Cotton has emerged as one of the most 17 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: outspoken conservative members of Congress, which has earned him a 18 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: spot as one of the left most hated figures. Khan 19 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: has also been one of our country's most important leaders 20 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: on national security matters, He's been especially vocal on the 21 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: threat posed by China and then dangers or military faces 22 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: as they become too woke. So get ready for an 23 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: in depth, educational, and provocative conversation with one of the 24 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: Senate's most fearless members. Without further ado and a welcome 25 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: Senator Tom Cotton to the show. Senator, thank you so 26 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: much for joining me on the Truth with Lisa Booth. 27 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: At least it's good to be healthy. And congratulations on 28 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: the podcast. Thank you so much. You know, when I 29 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: was thinking about topics today, I was like, oh my god, like, 30 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: where do we start it. It seems like the entire 31 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: country is unraveling, and you know, if they're about a 32 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: billion different items to discuss. But you know, your background 33 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: is really in foreign policy, and as I mentioned, it 34 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: really seems like our country is being pulled apart by 35 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: the seams were divided, racially, divided politically. Right now, if 36 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: you're a country like China looking at America, what are 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: you thinking? Well, I think China, as a rising power 38 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: with global ambitions to replace the United States, views this 39 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: as an opportunity this time early in the Biden administration, 40 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: as an opportunity to consolidate some of the games that's 41 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: made of the last twenty years or so, and also 42 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: testified the administration. Now it doesn't help. I mean by 43 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: administration is either parenting Chinese communist propaganda or providing Chinese 44 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: communist propaganda to use against us. You may have seen 45 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: just last week our ambassador of United Nations condemned America 46 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: and our founding principles as inherently racist and intertwined with 47 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: white supremacy. Lisa, that's the kind of thing that UM 48 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: we used to hear at the United Nations from communist 49 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: ambassadors in places like Soviet Russia or from China. UM 50 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: not something that our own ambassador would say, rather than 51 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: defending all of the progress we've made over two hundred 52 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: and fifty years and citing Abraham Lincoln's view the correct 53 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: view of things like the declaration that we were a 54 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: nation conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that 55 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: all men are created equal. But these are the exact 56 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: same talking points you heard from uh China's foreign minister 57 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: up in Alaska a few weeks ago when he spouted 58 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: them at our Secretary of State and our National security adviser. 59 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: So I think the Chinese communist view, this is a 60 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: period of time when they can probe and test and 61 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: see just how far they can push the Vibe administration. 62 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: That's one reason, for instance, that you've seen an increasing 63 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: number of incursions into Taiwanese airspace over the last month, 64 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: dozens of bombers in five years now. Someone may say, well, 65 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: all they're doing is just flying through some empty air, 66 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: but if they established that as a normal pattern that 67 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: happens day after day after day, it significantly reduces the 68 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: warning time and the advanced intelligence we have if they 69 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: ever decided to go for the jugular in Taiwan, which 70 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: Jiju and Ping has made personally a priority for him, 71 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: a part of his legacy, not just something that Chinese 72 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: leaders have wanted to do for more than seventy years now. 73 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: So I'm very worried about the aggressive behavior and rhetorical 74 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: we see from China's leaders. I'm also worried about what 75 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: the Biden administration is doing to underscore and reinforce some 76 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: of those messages. And I really worry about whether they'll 77 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: be tough enough in the long run to say, keep 78 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: the tariffs in place to protect America's jobs or punished 79 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: China for imprisoning democracy advocates like Jimmy Law in Hong Kong, 80 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: or for threatening our allies and our partners like Japan 81 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: and Taiwan in the Western Pacific. Well, and so about that, So, 82 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: I mean, all we heard was about Russia collusion and 83 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: Russia trying to influence the election, But the end CSC 84 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: acknowledged that China wanted Joe Biden to win the election 85 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: and that they were trying to influence the policy environment 86 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: during the election. We have Hunter Biden, Joe Biden's son, 87 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,799 Speaker 1: with business dealings tied to the Communist Party of China. 88 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: So my question, how involved was China in the election 89 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: and why don't we hear about possible collusion given all 90 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: of that, Well, I think it's obvious to anyone with 91 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: a bit of common sense that China wanted Donald Trump 92 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: to lose and Joe Biden to win. Donald Trump was 93 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: the first president in modern times to take a tough 94 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: line on China, and he moved a lot of other 95 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: politicians in Washington do the same thing. Um And in 96 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: some cases that was Republican politicians Lisa who had been 97 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: who had adopted too much of a pro business, pro 98 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: Chamber Commerce view of trade with China, what it was 99 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: doing to devastate working Americans and take away jobs and 100 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: factories from our country. So there's no doubt, I mean, 101 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: anybody who comment tense could see that, um that Donald 102 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: Trump would not again Beijing's favorite. Um, you don't need 103 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: the intelligence, even though our intelligence officials have stated publicly 104 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: that China was working in various ways to try to 105 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: shape the election environment. And one of those ways very 106 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: simple is you know, you can just look at the 107 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: ups and downs of trade negotiations with China. They were 108 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: clearly trying to manipulate American opinion to include American elite 109 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: opinion sometimes in listening America's CEOs, to try to create 110 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: a more favorable environment for China in a tougher environment 111 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. On the Russia front, Lisa just let 112 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: me add it is now more than a parent um 113 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: that while Donald Trump took a firm line on Russia, 114 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: the kind of line I had long advocated because of 115 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: one of the recruits the line activities, Joe Biden is 116 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: um speaking loudly and caring a little more than a twig. 117 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: He is unraveling a lot of our tough positions on Ussia, 118 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: and he announced a few sanctions last week and beat 119 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: his chest as if he was the tough guy. But 120 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: he openly admitted they were half measures, that he could 121 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: have done more, and he didn't. He asked Vladimir Putin 122 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: to meet him in some fancy European capital this summer 123 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: for a summit. What had he not done? Though? He 124 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: didn't impose sanctions on Russia's undersea pipeline in Germany, which 125 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: is their number one foreign policy and economic priority. Those 126 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: sanctions have been ready to go on the shelf. I 127 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: helped pass them with several of the centers and congressmen 128 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: some time back, and the Biden administration were an implement. 129 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: The Biden administration gave Vladimir Putin his previously most important 130 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: foreign policy objective, which was a five year extension of 131 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: a nuclear arms control agreement, an extension that is single 132 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 1: or is that as one sided against America and deeply 133 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: favorable to Russia. He didn't ask for a single concession, 134 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: he didn't try to get any leverage in it, He 135 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: didn't try to negotiate anything. He gave it a way 136 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: to Russia in the first two weeks of his administration, 137 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: so It's just another example of how the blue media 138 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: to store did the environment for the last four years 139 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: and portrayed everything in the worst possible life against Republicans, 140 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: when in reality, the last four years, we're tough on China, 141 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: we're tough on Russia. Right now we're going soft on Russia, 142 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: and I'm afraid we may soon go soft on China. Well, 143 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: and they're also concerns that the dossier that was being 144 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: pushed and that was used by the do O J 145 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: and the FBI to obtain those FISA warrants was actually 146 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: Russian disinformation. Do we ever get to the bottom of that? 147 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like the media is so uh, 148 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, unquestioning when it comes to things that could 149 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: be hurtful to you know, Donald Trump, but seems to 150 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: lack any sort of critical thinking or interest in anything 151 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: that could potentially be you know, damaging against the intelligence 152 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: community or Joe Biden. But do we ever find out 153 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: if the Russian or if the dossier was in fact, 154 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: you know, comprised of Russian disinformation? Yeah, I don't think 155 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: there's much question, Lisa, that this dossier was riddled with 156 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: Russian disinformation, um and sufterfuge I mean, it doesn't take 157 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: a genius to figure out that if some if someone 158 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: is trolling around Moscow or St. Petersburg or European capitals saying, hey, 159 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: we're looking for dirt on Donald Trump, were paid by 160 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: his political adversaries to dig up that dirt, and especially 161 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: um dirt related to Russia. That Russian intelligence, which is 162 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: very well sourced throughout Europe, is going to get winto that, 163 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: and then for them it's going to be practically a 164 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,119 Speaker 1: sport to see what they could get into a dossier 165 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: like that. UM. So there's little doubt that a lot 166 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: of the most fantastic, preposterous claims that were never supported 167 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: by any evidence, um, must have originated with Russian intelligence 168 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: officers again almost as a matter of sport, filling this 169 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: dossier with lies and nonsense, which the Democratic Party and 170 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: then the Blue media bought, hook line thinker and helped 171 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: are obsessed about it for two and a half years 172 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: or in some way four years of the Trump presidency well, 173 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: and also used by our own government to target a 174 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: political campaign. Yes, that is true, uh, and it is 175 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: something that should have been again uh, sending alarm bails 176 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: from the very beginning, this kind of this dossier that 177 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: is kind of half baked and obviously filled with lies, 178 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: uh and nonsense, was then longer through the Foreign Intelligence 179 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: Surveillance Court without even telling the judges on that court 180 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: the providence of it that it is paid opposition research 181 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: by Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee. But 182 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: so about that, I mean, so we also saw this 183 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: story recently debunked. The Russian bounty story from the New 184 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: York Times was debunked. You know, we just talked about 185 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: the you know, Russia collusion narrative that was debunked. You 186 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: also had leaks coming uh during under the Trump administration, 187 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: the allegations of Ukraine quid pro quo? Why did the 188 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: Why did the US intelligence community? He seemed to really 189 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: have it out for President Trump. Well, so LUSA on 190 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: the on the Russian bounty question, I'll say that it 191 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: seems to be plausible on its face. If you told 192 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: me that Vladimir Putin was putting bounties on American soldiers 193 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: or Americans period, it's nothing happened this miss out on hand, 194 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: that sounds like something Vladimir Putin would do. But when 195 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: those reports first hit the media last summer, I didn't 196 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: assume they were true. UM. I did what any responsible 197 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: leader should do. I tried to review the facts in 198 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: the evidence. I sit on the Intelligence Committee. I reviewed 199 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: these documents, and I gotta tell you, I didn't see 200 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: anything there. I certainly didn't see anything there to justify 201 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: any policy action in response to what we're fairly thinly 202 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: sourced allegations. But of course the blue media and the 203 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: Democrats treated it as gospel. The Biden administration, now by 204 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, I should add, picked up rand with those allegations, 205 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: even used them in a presidential debate against Donald Trump. UM. 206 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: Just last week, the Biden administration presumably authorized that information 207 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: to be released from the intelligence unit they had low 208 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: only low to moderate competence. That's pretty low. I gotta 209 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: tell you, just from a tradecraft perspective, UM, I can't 210 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: say that those leagues last summer came from the intelligence 211 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: community itself. I think it's probably as likely that they 212 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: came from Democrats in Congress who had seen those documents 213 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: and misrepresented to the media. Adam Schiff, I'm looking right 214 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: at you right now as a potential source for that, 215 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: and maybe the Biden administration realized that they had been 216 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: misled during the campaign that they certainly weren't looking at 217 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: it with a very skeptical eye. More broadly, as you say, though, Um, 218 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: there was a disconcerting pattern of leak intelligence not just 219 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: in the Trump administration, but going back to the Bush 220 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: administration as well. You may recall leaks about Iran's nuclear 221 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: program that were designed to tie the hands of Republican 222 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: that have presumably some liberal Democrats inside the bureaucracy didn't like. Um, 223 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: that is the exact opposite of what we should expect 224 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: from our intelligence professionals. Something I've stressed, not just in 225 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: the Trump era but with the new leaders there, that 226 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: they need to take very seriously to throw a part 227 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: of the influence over the intelligence we yet as well 228 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: as unauthorized lakes. Wow, alright, hold it right there, Senator Moore. 229 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: Was Senator Tom Cotton after the break. So I want 230 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: to get into something. So the former CDC director Robert 231 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: Redfield recently said he's a you know, virologist. He recently 232 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: was criticized for saying that he believes the coronavirus escaped 233 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: from a lab and Wuhan obviously you know that the 234 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: high security bio lab there the Wuhan Institute of Virology 235 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: was studying coronavirus at the time, So that seems like 236 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: a very plausible scenario. Why do you think given that 237 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: it was so panned what he said, it was so 238 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: heavily criticized, it's kind of boggles the mind. Right, Yeah, So, Lisa, 239 00:13:55,240 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: I send this UM as early as February UM that 240 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: the most likely exclamation for this virus's origin was in 241 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: those laboratories in Wuhan. Now, to be specific, I'm not 242 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: saying that it's a man made virus or that it 243 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: was genetically modified some some way. I'm simply saying what 244 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: you pointed out, Lisa. Um. We know that those laboratories 245 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: were studying deadly coronaviruses and other pathogens. We further know 246 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: that China's labs have a long history of shoddy sloppy 247 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: safety practices, and even to be fair, labs around the 248 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: world are not perfect. Sometimes they do have accidents in 249 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: which viruses can escape from them, but China's in particular 250 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: have a long history of this. UM. Some labs let 251 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: stars leak out of it a couple of decades ago, 252 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: and this lab in particular in Wuhan was visited by 253 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: American diplomats in two thousand eighteen, who wrote back that 254 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: they were very concerned about the quality of the construction 255 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: and the safety practices of the staff at this laboratory. 256 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: When you combine that with other evidence that was widely 257 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: known at the beginning of that the almost half of 258 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: the first patients that were known to have the coronavirus 259 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: had no contact whatsoever with that food market that Chinese 260 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: uh that China claimed was the source of the virus, 261 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: That that food market didn't sell bats, that the bats 262 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: from which this coronavirus likely came don't live within hundreds 263 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: of miles of Wuhan. All of the evidence points to 264 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: those labs uh. In last February, when I voiced that opinion, 265 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: the Blue media denounced me as a conspiracy theorist and 266 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: someone who was spreading lies and propaganda. And yet today 267 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: you have senior Biden adminstration officials testifying in front of 268 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: Congress that that's one of two likely scenarios. Now we 269 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: may never know the exact origin of this virus, because 270 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: the Chinese Communists had probably destroyed all the physical evidence. 271 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: Is possible that one day we will have a whistleblower, 272 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: defector of some sort who can testify to the origins 273 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: of the virus. But this is now widely accepted um 274 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: not only by the United States government, but even by 275 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: the blue media that was attacking me over a year 276 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: ago for stating guests And again, it's just a part 277 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: of the blue media's um willingness to spread any kind 278 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: of lie or use any kind of spin, distort any fact, 279 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: or made any fact if it aided in their efforts 280 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: to hurt Republicans in the election last year. Now that 281 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: the elections are over, now that they can't deny the 282 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: evidence themselves, they're starting to be a little more open 283 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: minded about a surprise surprise. But do you think it's 284 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: is it deeper than that in the sense because I 285 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: remember you have said that and I was like, yes, 286 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. Again when the former 287 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: CDC director said it is a yep, that makes the 288 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: most sense here, But you know, still receives criticism. I mean, 289 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: how much does China, How much stake does China have 290 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: in the American media? How we already see the major 291 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: corporations are beholden to China. It seems the government officials 292 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: are beholden to China. Is the media behold into China. Well, Lisa, 293 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: it is simply a fact that Fox Moves is the 294 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: only major news network in America that is not owned 295 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: by or affiliated a large corporate studio, corporate studios depending heavily, 296 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: heavily on access to the Chinese market and in some 297 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: cases Chinese funding. Just think about it. ABC owned by Disney, 298 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: NBC owned by Comcast Universal, CBS associated with Viacom, seeing 299 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: the end Time Warner. Every one of those major news 300 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: outlets is owned by or affiliated with a corporate studio 301 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: who is heavily beholden to the Chinese Communist Party. Is 302 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: it any real surprise that for years these major news 303 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: networks have been relatively soft on China and in some 304 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: cases acted like a stay length of bodyguards for Chinese 305 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: rulers against the common sense and judgments and intuition of 306 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: the American people. It's actually kind of scary to be, 307 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, perfectly honest and and sir evilly doubt the 308 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: Beat China Plan, which calls for the discoupling of our 309 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: economy from China. And I totally agree that that's what 310 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: we need to do. But how do we do it when, 311 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: as we've just noted, We have so many entities in 312 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: America that we're holding to China, and we saw that 313 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: just recently with the the m MB pulling out of 314 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: Georgia overlies about their election law. Yet they just announced 315 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: a deal with the Communist Party, with the telecommunications firm 316 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: ten Cent, you know. So how do we decouple when 317 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: there seems to be no interest or no fortitude from 318 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: our own American companies, the media, you know, and the 319 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: list goes on. First off, let me just address that 320 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: appalling corporate hypocrisy Lisa Um that corporate executives like Rob 321 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: manform Major League Baseball will criticize Georgia's elected legislature while 322 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: cutting deals with Chinese owned infil cleated companies, Or that 323 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: the nba UM will denounce America's elected political leaders while 324 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: turning a blind eye to genocide in China. Coca Cola 325 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: will denounce denounce its legislature in Georgia. Get Coca Cola's 326 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: up on Capitol Hill last year lobbying aggressively against the 327 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: bill that would try to stop the trade enslave labor 328 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: in Jin Chang Province. Are all the hype of hypocrisy 329 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: and all these corporate exects can get off their moral 330 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: high horse and go back to overseeing men playing a 331 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: boys game for making sugary beverages that kill a hundred 332 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: and sixty thousand Americans a year. For all I'm concerned, 333 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: I don't need their advice on things about which they 334 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: know nothing and about which they are deeply invested financially. 335 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: That's one reason why, though, that we need what I 336 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: call a targeted decoupling of our economy from China. UM. 337 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: So we got to look at the kinds of good 338 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: in some services on which we're somewhat dependent from China, 339 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: and it by those places where we can no longer 340 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: be dependent. Some of those are very obvious, like high 341 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: tech UH goods or critical goods that we don't produce 342 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: in America or we don't produce yet we cannot depend 343 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: on China for things like semiconductors or some of the 344 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: electronic components UM that drive our economy in many cases 345 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: drive military ships and planes and vehicles. Things like rare 346 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: earth elements that are anything but rare. Actually you can 347 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: really find them anywhere in the world. It's rare is 348 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: the mining and the processing and the manufacturing of them, 349 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: in which China largely has the world market cornered. But 350 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: it's not just those kind of high tech items as well. 351 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: We saw last year very basic things that there's no 352 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: reason can't be made in the United States or that 353 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: we can't buy from our allies, things like medical protective 354 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: masks and surgical gloves, and basic pharmaceuticals like generic imuprofen 355 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: and see and infant uh. Those things are those are 356 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: things on which we can no longer depend on China. 357 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: And we need to also help reduce and ultimately in 358 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: the influence of what I call the China lobby in America. 359 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: So those corporate studios and their news divisions, we need 360 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: to take a look at their investments in China and 361 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: China's investments in them, just like we would if they 362 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: were defense contractors in the Cold War, we would never 363 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: let them deal. The Soviet Union or the Warsaw Pact 364 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: blocked back then. We need to be very, very expansive 365 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: in what we look at in terms of critical industries, 366 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: so we're not dependent on China, and so China doesn't 367 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: have this massive lobby inside the United States to try 368 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: to influence our politics. Well, and you mentioned the genocide 369 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: that's being carried out against the weaker population. Right now, 370 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: for those unfamiliar, what is happening to the weaker population. 371 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: So the weakers are ethnic and religious minority in northwestern 372 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: China UM and the last six or seven years j 373 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: and Paying has personally overseen a campaign of genocide, slave labor, 374 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: and mass rape UM. He has engaged in ethnic cleansing 375 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: against this relatively small minority UM in which, by some 376 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: accounts of many as two million UM are locked up 377 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: in concentration camps being re educated UM. They've disappeared for 378 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: months on end, being forced to renounce their cultural traditions, 379 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: their language, their religious beliefs. Sometimes pressure is brought to 380 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: bear on their children or siblings or other relatives overseas 381 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: to include in the United States, to try to force 382 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: their relatives back home to surrender all of those things 383 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: that they hold. Dear, just think about that, your cultural 384 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: traditions and your language and your religion. UM. They're also 385 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: used that population UH to UM produce goods like sugar 386 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: or cotton that companies like Coca Cola either depend upon 387 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: or are worried that they are so worried that they 388 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: depend upon that they'll secretly lobby against the bill in 389 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: Congress last year that's designed to stop that slave trade. UH. 390 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: And then you know, some of the most revolting allegations, 391 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: which I have no reason to doubt, are that they 392 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: are also again trying to engage in ethnic cleansing, not 393 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: just by moving Han Chinese in to Jean Jay Province 394 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: and taking the land and taking the homes of these 395 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: religious ethnic minorities, but also systematically sterilizing weaker women or 396 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: systematically raping them as well. All of these um ahorrent 397 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: practices over the last six or seven years have been 398 00:23:55,359 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: pretty well documented by either defectors, by people who escaped 399 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: Jim Jean Province have spoken UH to media in the 400 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: free world, or by documents that have been UM released 401 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: presumably by centers with inside the Communist polit Buro in China. 402 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: But it all is personally driven by jej and Payne 403 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: UM and we cannot continue to stand by to do 404 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: and simply do business while turning a blind eye to 405 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: one of the worst episodes of genocide and ethnic cleansing 406 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: in recent times. It's it's disgusting, and it's disgusting that 407 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: these companies try to take stands on these issues and 408 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: try to be purport to be of any sort of 409 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: moral authority and then have turn a blind eye to 410 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: two genocide. But I also want to get into something 411 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: else you recently introduced because it's of interest to me. 412 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: So you introduce the legislation in the Senate called the 413 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: Combating Racist Training in the Military Act. What exactly does 414 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: it do and why did you feel compelled to introduce it? 415 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: Elsa taking a step back in the military um, and 416 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: um just looking at the problem in context. Um. So 417 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: many liberals in our society, whether they are senators or reporters, 418 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: or university presidents or professors, are totally in brawl to 419 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: what's known as critical race theory, this noxious claim that 420 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: somehow America is inherently and systematically racist. As our own 421 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: ambassador United Nations announced last week, white supremacy has woven 422 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: into our founding principles. But they see everything in the 423 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: world through the lens of race and class oppression. Um, 424 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: that there can only be oppressors in the oppressed. In 425 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: a way, it's kind of a warmed over Marxism, Lisa, 426 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: But as opposed to economic or material classes, it's all 427 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: based on race. Um, and it really does reject um. 428 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: The central teaching of Martin Luther King Jr. That we 429 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: should judge people by the content of their character, not 430 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: by the color of their skin. It which is especially 431 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: our children to be obsessed with race UM and see 432 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: each other first and foremost as representatives of a racial 433 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: group as opposed to individuals. UM. I was very concerned 434 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: when I saw some of them central tracts of this 435 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: critical race theory on the suggested reading list of certain 436 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: military UH leaders. Very concerned about some reports I've heard 437 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: from the students at our service academies that they're being 438 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: exposed and indoctrinated with these ideas. So my legislation in 439 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: the military complexes very context is very simply, UM, we 440 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: will not support teaching that is antithetical to our declaration 441 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: and to our constitution. Look at our armed forces have 442 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: always been on the vanguard of racial integration and racial equality. 443 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: Truman desegregated our military long before our schools were UM. 444 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: And when I served in the military, I served alongside 445 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: fellow soldiers of all races, and I can tell you 446 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: race was the last thing we ever saw. What we 447 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: focused on is our mission and focused on caring for 448 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: the body to our right, entire left, and making sure 449 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: that everyone came home alive and well. Um, if we 450 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: teach an entire generation of our young troopers that the 451 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: most important thing about each other is not how they 452 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: can conduct the mission, not their dedication to each other, 453 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: not their patriotism and their love of America's ideals, but 454 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: rather what they should see is each other is representative 455 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: racial group. It will substantially impair our readiness to fight 456 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: and win our nation's wars and our unit cohesion. The 457 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: last place, the last place we should be indoctrinating America's 458 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: youth with these um ideas is in our military. But 459 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: the indoctrination is about control. So I mean, we've seen 460 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: with the left, they've used their ideology to essentially get 461 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: control over the media. They now have control over government, 462 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: control of corporations, as we've seen with recent stances taken 463 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: against conservative states like Georgia as well as our school system. 464 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: So I mean, is that what it's about with the 465 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: military as well well, in in so many cases to 466 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: decidedly so, what the left wants to do is establish 467 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: that this nonsense, these lies as the new dogma, and 468 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: then to harass and persecute, cancel anybody who questions that dogma. Well, 469 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: of course that dogma should be questioned because it is wrong. Uh, 470 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: it is morally wrong, it is factually and historically wrong 471 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: about our country's history, UM, and we should not let 472 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: them exert that kind of control in the military. You know, 473 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: one of the reasons the military is still the most 474 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: respected institution in America at least is because it is 475 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: viewed as nonpartisan and a political and dedicated to the 476 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: most important duty that one can perform in any nation, 477 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: to include our nation, which is the protection and preservation 478 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: of our free and independent way of life. But we saw, 479 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: you know, we saw back in January it was reported 480 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: that the National Guard was doing background checks to eat 481 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: out Trump supporters from the National Guard troops in d C. 482 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: I mean that strikes me as very un American. You know, 483 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: why do why do we want the troops in Washington, 484 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: d C? To be beholden to Joe Biden? That that 485 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: that that just that that disturbs me. Yeah, you know, 486 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: you saw also in an instance where I think the 487 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: delegate from bomb took some of their National Guard soldiers 488 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: to a fellow UM House members office, I don't know, 489 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: to protest or meet with them or what have you. 490 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: Uh again, this is this is uh very harmful to 491 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: our military and therefore to our nation. The reason one 492 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: reason why our military is so esteemed it is because 493 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: it isn't partisan. Because it is it's a political, and 494 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: we shouldn't be taking steps to politicize it in any 495 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: way or to check political loyalthies. Look, I I starved 496 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: alongside Democrats, alongside Republicans, observatives, and liberals. Um, it didn't 497 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: come up much occasionally, did you know? I was in 498 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: Afghanistan when Barack Obama was inaugurated and said obviously prompted 499 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: a lot of conversation, but that was conversation for the 500 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: dining hall or the gym or the card table. It 501 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: was not conversation for the patrol when we were mounted 502 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: up and moving through enemy territory. Um. And we all 503 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: we need to keep in mind that's the mission of 504 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: our military. It's not to be a political debating society 505 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: or be used as a political prop Well. And we 506 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: also saw the military attack, military leaders attack Tucker Carlson, 507 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: private citizen and a journalist as well, which I believe 508 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: is unprecedented. It is, and I shouldn't have done that. Um. 509 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: You know, Look, it's one thing, if the civilian press 510 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: secretary that kind of gone get asked a question spontaneously 511 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: about it, and the expressed as his prior admiration for 512 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: our troops or disagrees with a member of the media. Um. 513 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: But to have what appeared to be a concerted and 514 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: organized social media campaign from senior military leaders was disappointed 515 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: to me. And I expressed the disappointment, uh to the 516 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: pentagon'st leadership, and I hope you don't ever see it again. 517 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: That's incredible. Full it right there. We'll be back with 518 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: Senator Tom Cotton after the break. Right now, you see 519 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: Democrats trying to expand power through court packing h R 520 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: one also giving state vote to Puerto Rico in d C, 521 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: all essentially in an effort to consolidate power and to 522 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: keep Republicans from ever getting it again. The filbuster is 523 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: really the only thing standing in the way. Do you 524 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: think the philbuster is going to last until the midterm elections? 525 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: The rules in tradition of the Senate, least that that 526 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: will permit extended debates and require more than a simple 527 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: majority vote are some of the most important rules and 528 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: traditions not only in our Senate but in our country. 529 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: I mean, our founding fathers, in their wisdom, created a 530 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: government that would be stable and durable, wouldn't have wild 531 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: swings of opinion based on transient election results that might 532 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: be overturned just two years later. UM. That's the role 533 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: the Senate is designed to play. These rules and traditions 534 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: have been in place almost since the very beginning lee, 535 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: since the second decade of our constitution. Um. They were 536 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: enacted while some of the authors of the Constitution were 537 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: still in the Congress or would later serve in the 538 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: White House. UM. So these things go back over two 539 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: hundred years. They stood the test of time. Uh. They've 540 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: been an important part of our governing institutions. It ensures 541 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: that you have more consensus, more bi partisanship, and that 542 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: major changes reflect a general compromise view of the American 543 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: people as as reflective through their elected representatives in the 544 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: United States Senate. What the Democrats realize is that they 545 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: have a very slender, very perhaps brief majority to force 546 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: through these radical changes. And they don't give a damn 547 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: about the rules and the traditions of the Senate. UM. 548 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: And when I say they're trying to force through these 549 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: radical changes, least so I don't mean to say they're 550 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: trying to do things like raise your taxes or take 551 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: your guns or defund your police, although they will do 552 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: all those things, don't get me wrong. Um, but we 553 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: should undo those things when we take office. Um. We 554 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: can cut your taxes, we can stand up for law enforcement. Um. 555 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,239 Speaker 1: But what the Democrats want to do is eliminate these 556 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: rules and traditions of the Senate so they never have 557 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: to relinquish power. You mentioned several of them. They want 558 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: to pack the Supreme Court because they don't like that 559 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: it has a center right majority that supports and upholds 560 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: the Constitution that it's written. They weren't engage in the 561 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: equivalent of packing the U. S. Senate by making Washington 562 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: d C. Estate washingt DC a kind of state. It's 563 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: a city. In fact, it's a federal city, and it's 564 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: designed to be the federal city that's the seat of 565 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: our government. But the Democrats think if they make it 566 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: a state, they'll have two more Democratic senators in perpetuity. 567 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: Just like that, a single signature on a piece of paper, 568 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: it's a not cent it or the so called For 569 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: the People Act, Nancy Pelosi is crazy election law that 570 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: should be called the for the Corrupt Democratic Politicians Act, 571 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: because it is designed in every way to enhance the 572 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: power of the Democratic Party and lock them into power forever. 573 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: And that's what all of these radical proposals are designed 574 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: to do. The only thing that's protecting it right now 575 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: are the rules and the traditions of the Senate. And 576 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: that's why the Democrats have and their media allies have 577 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: mounted a frontal assault on this rules and tradition. Now, 578 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: I think some Democrats in the Senate are hesitants to 579 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: go down that road. They know how unpopular it is. 580 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: They know that they would pay a major penalty and elections, 581 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: especially in some of the states they represent, if they 582 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: do that. Um, it's something that we work on every 583 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: day in the Senate to make sure that the Democrats 584 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: don't take this radical and irreversible step. Yeah, we have 585 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: a media, as you mentioned, that is rewriting terms like 586 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: court packing. What coret packing means. Who are pushing HR 587 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: one as you know, voting rights at to essentially adopting 588 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: the terms of the left. So what happens to a 589 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: country when the media serves as a propaganda arm for 590 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: one party as opposed to an independent media UM, well, Uh, 591 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: it makes it harder for Republicans and conservatives to communicate 592 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: and get our ideas out. But I wouldn't say it's impossible. UM. 593 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say if the hardest has never been Lisa. 594 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean, look, Ronald Reagan faced an environment when he 595 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: had three major news networks ABC, CBS, NBC, and one 596 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: major newspaper that set those news news networks agenda, The 597 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: New York Times. I mean today, UM, we still have 598 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: a lot of forces stacked against us. But we have 599 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: Fox News and UM other TV networks. We have talk radio, 600 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: which generally UM has the most popular shows on the 601 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: center right. We have social media and the Internet. We 602 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: have podcasts like your podcast, Lisa, where we can get 603 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: our message out. So it's not impossible. It's not impossible 604 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: by any means. It is harder than it is for 605 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: liberals and Democrats who often have the media acting as 606 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: a stay lengths of bodyguards for them. Um. But it's 607 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: that's why it's so critical that Republicans use all the 608 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: avenues we have to explain exactly what Biden and these 609 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 1: radical Democrats are doing and drive home to the American 610 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: people the stakes of what's ahead over the next eighteen 611 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: months before elections. Well, and just one more question before. 612 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: I know you've got a really busy schedule, so I 613 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: want to be respectful of your time. It feels like 614 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: we've reached a point where you know, yes, I have 615 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: this podcast and thank God for it. We'll see how 616 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: long I have it fingers crossed. But you know, we 617 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: we saw Parlor get the platform. We have big Tech 618 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: obviously in the tank, working in tandem with the Joe 619 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 1: Biden campaign taking down anything negative about Hunter Biden. Now 620 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: corporations working against conservative states. Have we reached a point 621 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: where it's all too big to be worked out in 622 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: the free market, and some of these instances at least 623 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: so that it may work, it will be very well 624 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: be and especially when it comes to big tech UM 625 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: and the kind of monopoly power they've begun to exert 626 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: over what is you might called the virtual or the 627 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: digital town square UM. There's a long series of first 628 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: and minute cases suggests even so called privates towns UM 629 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: company towns can't limit UM free speech. I think we 630 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: need to take a look at whether those cases would 631 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: apply to companies like Twitter and Facebook and Apple and 632 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: other social media companies um, and I think it's time 633 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: that we look at the legal standards of it as well. 634 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: Now that challenge their least I'll tell you is that 635 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: Republicans Democrats alike are pretty unhappy with big tech, but 636 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: the solutions are directly opposite. Republicans think that these tech 637 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: companies should serve more as neutral platforms and respect the 638 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: values of free speech and freedom of expression. Democrats want 639 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: these tech platforms to sensor conservatives. So it may be 640 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: hard to find compromise on legislation to rein in some 641 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: of these abuses. But it's a real high priority of 642 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: mine because I can tell you our canisons are expressing 643 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: to me all the time how worried they are that 644 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 1: they may be the next person to lose their social 645 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 1: media accounts or in some cases even lose their job 646 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: or have their homes ticketed. It is a real problem 647 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: that these big tech companies have such an outside influence 648 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: over who can be heard in our political debates. Well, 649 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: and and Senator, before we part, any words of hopefulness, 650 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: since I know the conversation was really heavy about you know, 651 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: some big concerns we're facing as a country. UM. Well, 652 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: I would encourage everyone, UM not to be discouraged. Um. 653 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: If you look at the election last year, in fact, 654 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 1: in many ways, uh, we significantly outperformed with the Democrats expected, 655 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: with the media expected. Look, we picked up seats in 656 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: the House. Nancy Plosy right now has a two steat majority, 657 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: that the smallest majority of century. UM. In the Senate, 658 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 1: it's evenly divided, UM. And the only reason the Democrats 659 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: controlled the agenda in the Senate, Florist, because they've got 660 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: the tie breaking vote. Power is very evenly divided in 661 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: the political system our country right now. I know some 662 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: of the things we've touched from at least a point 663 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: to dominant liberal control of major institutions in America. And 664 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: that's true if you look at the blue media or 665 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: big Tech, or Hollywood, or the universities or the unlucky 666 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: did parts of our government, liberals have outside influence. But 667 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: when it comes to the elected parts of our government, 668 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: our Congress and the presence day, your governor, your legislature, 669 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 1: your local government. UM, that is the one place where 670 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: we have an equal and in some ways a majority 671 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 1: voice as conservative. So I've encourage all of your listeners 672 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: not to be discouraged, not to leave the playing field, 673 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: because electoral politics is the one place where we can 674 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: ensure that our voice is heard and that we continue 675 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: to defend and promote all of the things that we 676 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: love about our country and that make our country so 677 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: dear well in fighting for culture is important and same 678 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: for our mid term Senator, I could honestly talk to 679 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: you all day. This has been a truly fascinating conversation. 680 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: I'd love to have you back some time. All right, 681 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 1: thank you, Lisa. I want to bank Senator Tom Houghton 682 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: again for such an in double interview. I found it 683 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: to be absolutely fascinating. I really hope you guys did too, 684 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: so thank you so much for listening. If you enjoy 685 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: today's show, please please please leave me a review and 686 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: rate us with five stars on Apple Podcast. You can 687 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: also find me on Twitter and Instagram at at leasta 688 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,919 Speaker 1: Mae Booth Let me know there. Did you like the show? 689 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: What did you think? 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