WEBVTT - Mammograms, Weathermen, and a Jelly Roll

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everyone to Amy and TJ. And TJ is already

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<v Speaker 1>laughing at me because I have my broadcasting voice. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't help it.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you okay? Starting it? Okay, let's pretend like

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<v Speaker 2>we're starting all over and you like talking to me

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<v Speaker 2>at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome, I don't know, it feels weird. Welcome everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so hard to be natural, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>When it when it comes to an intro, Yes, you're

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<v Speaker 1>usually punching it with some energy. I don't know, almost

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years of broadcasting experience. You go into broadcasting mode.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, again, it's okay. Proof is in the pudding.

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<v Speaker 1>All you're doing is making sure that you start every podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You see how you just that just came out naturally?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? You have been I say this to you coaching me.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not coaching, but I say this to you all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. When we were on GM A three, sitting

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<v Speaker 2>on the set and before we start the show and

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<v Speaker 2>there's counting out five four three, and I'm talking to you,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like poking. Just as soon as the show starts,

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<v Speaker 2>the cameras come on and our MIC's come up, we're

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of conversation, and that's when you are

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<v Speaker 2>nailing because you're at your best. You ain't thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not looking at a prompter. You just boom and

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<v Speaker 2>you just go boom. But we Andy was the one here,

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<v Speaker 2>our producer in the room. He said, you know what, Amy,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you got this today. You can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thank you Andy, thank you very much for

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<v Speaker 1>that encouragement.

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever heard a ringing endorsement.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy, I thought you were good enough but not great,

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<v Speaker 1>but not terrible. You know who was great today?

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<v Speaker 2>Homes Oh you all, yes, Beanie bean. Today was a

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<v Speaker 2>very big day. We are recording. We hustled here because Sabine,

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<v Speaker 2>eleven year old had her first ever track meet and

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<v Speaker 2>her first ever athletic competition in her young life. Was

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<v Speaker 2>today an official track meet that we have been working

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<v Speaker 2>on and training for for weeks, her for months, but

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<v Speaker 2>we've been going out really hard with her on the

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<v Speaker 2>track for the past couple of weeks and so.

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<v Speaker 1>It was awesome. It was it was. There are those

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<v Speaker 1>moments you're coaching your kids. You're hoping that they're joways,

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<v Speaker 1>just going to give it their all. You're hoping that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want necessarily a victory. You just want them

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<v Speaker 1>to give it their all. Right, that's what you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So we wanted to win though, don't get me wrong, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, you're not telling them that, You're just saying

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<v Speaker 1>all I care about is that you give it your all.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's been really sweet to watch TJ getting

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<v Speaker 1>up really early with Sabine pretty much every morning for

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<v Speaker 1>the last several days, going to a track with was

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<v Speaker 1>not easy to find in New York City, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>in Manhattan, and getting her out onto a real track

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<v Speaker 1>and training for the two hundred meter and timing her

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<v Speaker 1>and her splits and helping her with her form, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was such a good student. Not every kid takes

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<v Speaker 1>direction well from a parent, especially, But I watched it

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<v Speaker 1>all happen. And today was the track meet. She was

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<v Speaker 1>in the two hundred and TJ tell us what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>She won her heat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, she's got legs for miles, she's got

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<v Speaker 1>your body. You call her. Your nickname for her is

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<v Speaker 1>so cute, stix. She just got these She's all legs.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she was built to be a runner. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's just it's and it's so sweet. To see

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<v Speaker 1>her just look at you and look for your direction.

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<v Speaker 1>She knows her daddy knows how to run races now,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's just it's so sweet to see it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And how sweet is it that she actually won. That

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<v Speaker 1>is rare and cool and should be celebrated.

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<v Speaker 2>Every parent can relate to that. You want you look,

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<v Speaker 2>you do want your kid to win, of course, but

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<v Speaker 2>oftentimes that's for you, right, that's for the parents. I

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<v Speaker 2>want my child to win. I could be proud, but

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted her to be able to feel good

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<v Speaker 2>about the race that she ran. And the last thing

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<v Speaker 2>is to run your race. Do not worry about where

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<v Speaker 2>any other kid is. Run your race and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be okay. And sure enough, she ran her race. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a kid and you saw this. There was a

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<v Speaker 2>day that we went out to practice with her. The

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<v Speaker 2>one day I went and she was like she was dying,

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<v Speaker 2>like she's just gonna throw up, and she was hurting.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just pain, like running hurts, right, it does. Today.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw her as another kid was approaching in the

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<v Speaker 2>straightaway and that two hundred meter was catching up with

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<v Speaker 2>her and she was slowing down. You could tell she

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<v Speaker 2>was struggling, and she kicked into another gear when she

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<v Speaker 2>saw that other kid. And that was a great life

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<v Speaker 2>lesson for her to see that I can push through

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<v Speaker 2>something and to watch her do it. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to encourage her or anything. She learned something about herself today.

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<v Speaker 2>That was That was the best part of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I also agree that teaching your kids, if you put

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<v Speaker 1>in the practice, you put in the work. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean you're gonna win, but you have a better shot

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<v Speaker 1>than most when you put the work in. So she

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<v Speaker 1>did it. She got up early, she went in all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of weather, and it paid off. And that's an

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<v Speaker 1>also very important lesson for folks to learn. She did

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<v Speaker 1>just wake up and yeah, she's got long legs and

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<v Speaker 1>she ran faster than everybody. No, she worked at it.

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<v Speaker 1>She she wanted on her form, and she got up

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<v Speaker 1>and did the hard thing. So I love those types

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<v Speaker 1>of lessons. Win or lose, there are great lessons to have,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's maybe even a little extra sweet when it's

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<v Speaker 1>a win.

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<v Speaker 2>It was fun to us and we were leaving here

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<v Speaker 2>immediately to go celebrate with her, to go party. She's

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<v Speaker 2>holding onto the champagne. She's not gonna pop it until

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<v Speaker 2>we get there. So that's Frue. You're standing by texting

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<v Speaker 2>as we speak. She's having a good time. But today, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>on this episode, we are gonna we're gonna quickly tick

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<v Speaker 2>through a few topics that have gotten us interested, worked up, sad,

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<v Speaker 2>even to a certain degree. But Robes has worked up

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<v Speaker 2>about new breast cancer screening guidelines. A former GMA colleague

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<v Speaker 2>of ours has now been fired. We have something in

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<v Speaker 2>common with Jelly Roll, and we want to give a

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<v Speaker 2>collective hug to Jlo Lopez. We're gonna hit those things

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<v Speaker 2>here in the next few minutes. So let's start at

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<v Speaker 2>the top here. Breast cancer screens. We've done a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of episodes. Everybody knows you're a breast cancer survivor and

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<v Speaker 2>you've talked about this for a long time. But now

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<v Speaker 2>this task force, they are the authority on breast cancer screenings.

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<v Speaker 2>They have now gone back on guidelines that they gave

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<v Speaker 2>us what ten years ago, Please tell forty year old

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<v Speaker 2>women now should be getting breat cancers.

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<v Speaker 1>They have flip flopped so many times, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>my biggest frustration because it is already confusing, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they just make it more confusing, and so when I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up getting my screening, my first mammogram at forty,

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<v Speaker 1>it was only because of my job Good Morning America.

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<v Speaker 1>They asked me to do that, just to show women

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<v Speaker 1>to start Breast Cancer Awareness Month that at forty you,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Robin Roberts was the big impetus for this.

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<v Speaker 1>You should get your baseline mammogram. But that went against

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<v Speaker 1>what the US Preventive Services Task Force suggested, which was

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<v Speaker 1>fifty if you had no family history, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>of average risk.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's been the case for the past, that's been

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<v Speaker 2>in place with.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten years, yes, and there was a time where I

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<v Speaker 1>believe the American Cancer Society said forty five. So it

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, look, busy women, busy lives, and who

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<v Speaker 1>wants to go to the doctor and get a test

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<v Speaker 1>they might not need or probably don't need in their minds, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you tell me I can wait till I'm fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting till I'm fifty. If it hadn't been for

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<v Speaker 1>my job, I would have waited until I was fifty

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<v Speaker 1>or until I had symptoms, which is usually when it's

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<v Speaker 1>too late. So I credit just knowing other breast cancer

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<v Speaker 1>survivors and how having a work assignment. That is the

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<v Speaker 1>only reason I found my cancer at the age of forty.

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<v Speaker 1>And just for the record, at the age of forty,

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<v Speaker 1>a seemingly healthy young woman with no family history, I

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<v Speaker 1>had it. I had two malignant tumors, it had already

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<v Speaker 1>spread to my limp notes. So that's just the reality

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<v Speaker 1>that so many other women are facing. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>told you can wait to your fifty, you've got ten

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<v Speaker 1>years now, where that's not time you can spare if

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<v Speaker 1>you're already if you already have breast cancer. And the

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<v Speaker 1>only way the best test we have right now is

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<v Speaker 1>a mammogram. So anyway, they've now said, hey, ladies, whoops,

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<v Speaker 1>Now you should go at forty. And there is still

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<v Speaker 1>a sticking point that's angering a lot of medical professionals

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<v Speaker 1>who work with breast cancer patients. They're saying every other year,

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<v Speaker 1>not every year. And the problem is when this task

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<v Speaker 1>force makes these types of recommendations, it affects what doctors recommend,

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<v Speaker 1>it affects what insurance companies will cover, and it definitely

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<v Speaker 1>affects women living and dying. And they said, just by

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<v Speaker 1>this was some medical professional said, just by changing the

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<v Speaker 1>guidelines from fifty to forty. They believe that that could

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<v Speaker 1>have a significant impact on women surviving breast cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you've changed the guidelines from fifty to forty, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying every other year at forty versus every year

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<v Speaker 2>at forty. Yeah, I mean, I mean what it isn't

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<v Speaker 2>somebody going to argue? And so in five years, this

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<v Speaker 2>task force are going to come back you say, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, we should do it every year starting exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a doctor who was quoted saying, we can

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<v Speaker 1>save even more lives, up to nearly twenty percent more

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<v Speaker 1>lives with this updated strategy. There is no new information

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<v Speaker 1>out there. This is just a group of they're actually

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<v Speaker 1>a volunteer group of folks, most of whom do not

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<v Speaker 1>treat breast cancer patients at all, making these recommendations. And

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<v Speaker 1>it has a huge financial impact on the insurance companies,

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<v Speaker 1>on the doctors, on the medical professionals. So there's just

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<v Speaker 1>so much at play here, and the reality is the

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<v Speaker 1>most important thing that should be at play is a

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<v Speaker 1>woman's life. And that is what's frustrating to me that

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<v Speaker 1>the only only reason they claim, oh there's unnecessary testing,

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<v Speaker 1>there's unnecessary anxiety for younger women who have dense breast tissue.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we're only saying every other year, because they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be unnecessary tests and unnecessary worry. You know what, all

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<v Speaker 1>take being worried, All take getting a false positive to

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<v Speaker 1>find out I don't have preast cancer versus not getting

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<v Speaker 1>the test at all and not knowing I have breast cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're speaking again too, You're you're speaking from an

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<v Speaker 2>experience you have, and I understand obviously your passion, But

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<v Speaker 2>what do these folks again, I don't not familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>whose this group is, how they get on this task force?

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<v Speaker 2>But are they not to you talk about the money aspect.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a financial aspect and there is like some influence

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<v Speaker 2>possibly on this group. So you're taking a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people can't see what you did. But I am on

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<v Speaker 2>the outside to a certain degree and not as entrenched

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<v Speaker 2>as you are to where I think, well, surely these

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<v Speaker 2>people are trying to do what's best. Surely they only

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<v Speaker 2>have the interest of women's health and lives in them

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<v Speaker 2>in their mind.

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<v Speaker 1>They are saying that with the cost of it as well,

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<v Speaker 1>without a doubt, And I would just argue, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>put a price on a mother, on a sister, on

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<v Speaker 1>a daughter, And this is breast cancer affects men as well.

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<v Speaker 1>The mammogram issue, though, is what we're talking about, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is for women. And so when I speak to that,

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<v Speaker 1>I just say, I don't think you can put a

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<v Speaker 1>cost on a woman's life. And of course I am

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<v Speaker 1>coming at it from a very subjective point of view,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing specifically that I would have waited until I was fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>and had I done that, I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 1>would be here today.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but that's from where you're your standpoint, and you

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<v Speaker 2>say it that way, you count it that way. But

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<v Speaker 2>it is a very good chance if you followed the

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<v Speaker 2>guidelines that were in place previously, you would not be

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<v Speaker 2>alive today.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's where the passion.

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<v Speaker 1>It's understandable. Yes, So anyway, I applaud them finally making

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<v Speaker 1>it forty. I don't applaud the fact that they're saying

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<v Speaker 1>every other year. I think that is cost saving. And

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<v Speaker 1>they can say it's about unnecessary test, which again is

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<v Speaker 1>cost but they're also claiming that they're saving women from

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<v Speaker 1>undo anxiety from a false positive. I say, save me that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll handle my own anxiety, give me the test.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, So, I mean we're not the ones in the business.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had doctors on here, we had you're on colleges

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<v Speaker 2>on here, We've had doctor Coleman on here. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>they are the ones the experts who can give you

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<v Speaker 2>the advice or whatever you should do with this, and

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<v Speaker 2>who you should We can't give that. All we can

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<v Speaker 2>do is tell you that they're now saying women, you

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<v Speaker 2>should go get mammograms starting at forty and you should

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<v Speaker 2>get it every other year. That's all we can do,

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<v Speaker 2>right tod.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would just say, as someone who's been through this,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want every woman out there to feel empowered

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<v Speaker 1>to push for the healthcare that they want to receive.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think anyone, any doctor worth anything, is going

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<v Speaker 1>to support that and understand that allowing women to have

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<v Speaker 1>access to mammograms is in a very important part of

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<v Speaker 1>our health care.

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<v Speaker 2>You say that thing about like women to be empowered.

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<v Speaker 2>This is I've didn't plan on doing this now, but

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<v Speaker 2>I will because you said that and it triggered it.

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<v Speaker 2>Empower women. I have seen what's the name of the

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<v Speaker 2>medicine you need to live sinthroid, synthroid all right, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to have You have been trying to get your

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<v Speaker 2>prescription of synthroid for.

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<v Speaker 1>How long it's been like two months?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And the reason you can't get it is because it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a frustrating medical system. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people can understand this. You've got doctors who are overworked

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<v Speaker 1>and they've got a big caseload and they don't keep

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<v Speaker 1>track of their patients to an extent. And so, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was out of my synthroid. This is for a

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<v Speaker 1>thyroid condition I have. And I got the blood work,

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<v Speaker 1>I did everything I was supposed to, and there's just

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<v Speaker 1>all of there's just constant red tape, and there's just it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're busy, and so if someone puts a hurdle in

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<v Speaker 1>front of me and says calls me back and says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to now have a physical and I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just did my blood work. Well now she won't

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<v Speaker 1>renew the prescription because you have to come in again

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<v Speaker 1>for a physical when I just had one a few

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<v Speaker 1>months ago. It's just there's all this paperwork and all

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<v Speaker 1>this red tape, and then you think you get the

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<v Speaker 1>test you need and then they tell you we're not

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<v Speaker 1>giving you the prescription. Unless you come in and do that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just a non stop.

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<v Speaker 2>You you had a synthroid.

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<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't renew it again, even though I just got

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<v Speaker 1>my blood work last month.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what happens if you don't take synthroid?

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually? Yeah, my body would eventually shut down. It would

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<v Speaker 1>take a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but your brother was testing about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So during the pandemic, I yes, de point, this is

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<v Speaker 1>my only wake up call to it. So I've had

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<v Speaker 1>I've been taking synth rid since I was twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>After my first baby, my byroid completely depleted. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's called hashimotos or something like that, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to have it, so I stopped taking it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the name of the thyroid syndrome. My you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>nods from Emma and from Andy. I'm not making it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't just make up a word. So during the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just it was hard to get a hold

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<v Speaker 1>of a doctor, and so I thought, what would happen

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<v Speaker 1>if I just stopped taking it? Really dumb idea. No

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<v Speaker 1>one ever do this. And it took I think two months,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, I was like weak and

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<v Speaker 1>shaking and almost fainting. I could barely function, and I realized,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I stopped taking the synthroid. I called

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<v Speaker 1>my brother, who's a physician. He's like, you're a moron,

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, could I die if I never take

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<v Speaker 1>in throat again? He was like, yes, you eventually would.

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<v Speaker 1>Your thyroid regulates your entire body. It would take a

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<v Speaker 1>while and it wouldn't be fun. I didn't ask him, well,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, really, what are we talking months? We're talking years,

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<v Speaker 2>talking decades?

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<v Speaker 1>No, not decades. I mean, I don't know how long

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<v Speaker 1>it would take. What I'm saying, end of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, you you'll are saying this that you need

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<v Speaker 2>something to live, and you have doctors making it difficult

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<v Speaker 2>for you to get the thing you need to live.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a problem. And look, I know you are

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<v Speaker 2>sitting We're sitting here in a very privileged situation with

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<v Speaker 2>the best doctors in the world and access and healthcare

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<v Speaker 2>and all these things. That's great, But for you, you need

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<v Speaker 2>something to live. And I have heard you on all

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<v Speaker 2>these phone calls. I'm like, what the hell?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is this hard?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is this hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think so many people out there though,

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<v Speaker 1>who have to have medicine to actually yes, as you

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<v Speaker 1>point out, live understand it can be a frustrating, arduous task.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if you do all the things you're supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>They lost the paperwork, you have to come back in again,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to come into somewhere else to get blood work.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's it's exhausting. But yes, I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to live, so I will get I will get the synthroid.

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<v Speaker 1>Trust me. It's just gonna take a few more steps.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently, Yeah, apparently we're gonna have to plan a heist

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<v Speaker 2>to go get this stuff, all right, but any that's

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<v Speaker 2>one thing. But yes, the breastkinds of screening is if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know, ladies, read up on it, look at it,

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<v Speaker 2>and please talk to your doctor. But because the guidelines

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<v Speaker 2>have changed once again. The other thing we mentioned want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about today is it's getting around and making

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<v Speaker 2>some headlines. But it has to do with a former

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<v Speaker 2>colleague of ours who, according to the headlines at least,

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<v Speaker 2>has been let go from ABC News and Good Morning America,

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<v Speaker 2>where he worked as a meteorologist for the past ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about Rob Marciano. Now, the details of it you

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<v Speaker 2>can go read for yourself. Not going to repeat a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of that stuff, but we know he's not working

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<v Speaker 2>that any there anymore. We were with somebody just had

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<v Speaker 2>a breakfast the other morning where somebody reminded us, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody leaves ABC News in a pretty fashion. That's exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what they said.

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<v Speaker 1>Word for word. And yes, it's it's a tough situation. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we have walked down that road and it's not an

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<v Speaker 1>easy one. And I know he also has and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he might still be going through a divorce. So

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<v Speaker 1>we know what it's like to have your entire life

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<v Speaker 1>up ended, career and personal life. So and we both

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<v Speaker 1>have known Rob for a long time. You've known him

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<v Speaker 1>longer than I have.

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<v Speaker 2>We were at starting CNN in two thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 2>He was there, and we spent all those years together

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<v Speaker 2>at CNN. A lot this his He could pull out

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<v Speaker 2>his phone now and his phone is flooded with messages

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<v Speaker 2>from me over the past decade of me complimenting him.

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<v Speaker 2>He is one of the best guys I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 2>in the field covering weather. He is just good. He

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<v Speaker 2>is good at it, and I've always marveled, and I

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<v Speaker 2>like people who can handle live like that too, So

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<v Speaker 2>we don't obviously we don't know all the details, and

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<v Speaker 2>some of them that are out there are a little

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<v Speaker 2>sketchy and sallacious and and tabloid type clickable headline stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that we are not going to get into. But whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is, it's we hate to see somebody who's been

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<v Speaker 2>a friend and colleague for a long time end up

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<v Speaker 2>in this place's position to be talked about the way

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<v Speaker 2>he's being talked about to some degree. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a weird statement to get just yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's you know, and you said it best.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not our place and we would never make it

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<v Speaker 1>our place to comment specifically on any of the details,

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<v Speaker 1>but we do know what it's like to have those

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<v Speaker 1>headlines to be the subject of clickbait, and that's a

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<v Speaker 1>tough position for anyone to be going through, especially someone

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<v Speaker 1>who is a father of two. I know how much

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<v Speaker 1>he loves his kids. He talks about them all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's just tough to see those headlines almost for

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<v Speaker 1>the sake of his family, his kids, him, all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>So our heart goes out to him, and I agree

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<v Speaker 1>he is. There's no one, you know. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>can weather from a tornado to a hurricane to a snowstorm.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been through it all, Yes, and he happily jumps

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<v Speaker 1>on those planes and rolls up his sleeves and puts

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<v Speaker 1>on those rubber boots and reports on everything for so

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<v Speaker 1>many people at the expensive of time with his family.

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<v Speaker 1>So I do applaud all the work he has bravely

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<v Speaker 1>done over the last decade or so, and we wish

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<v Speaker 1>him the very best.

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<v Speaker 2>No matter what. We don't know all the details, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's not some defense of anything he has or hasn't done.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a matter of you just you just hate

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<v Speaker 2>to see it in that way for somebody. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>something that's and of course people immediately start sending us

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<v Speaker 2>messages and hey did you see this? And you know

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<v Speaker 2>this is going on because of our connection to that place.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's there. The is this a happier note? Jelly roll?

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<v Speaker 2>Jellyroll is off social media? Well, he jumped off, so

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<v Speaker 2>he's he said he is in a better mental place

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<v Speaker 2>and healthier because he stopped looking at social media. Who

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<v Speaker 2>can relate to that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we had a year hiatus and I have to say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it. It took you know, you get into

0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.480
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like a muscle. You're flexing when you're posting,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're you're sharing and you're and then when it

0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:02.159
<v Speaker 1>bites you in the ass, there is a freedom to

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<v Speaker 1>walking away from it. I hate why and why he

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<v Speaker 1>had to do it, because you know, look, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a dude who I loved reading about the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he's about to run a five k next month. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe for charity, so it's for all the good reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has been very public saying I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>already lost seventy pounds. I mean, we are always applauding

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<v Speaker 1>better health choices and taking it on and owning it

0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:27.879
<v Speaker 1>and being proud of it and inspiring other people and

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<v Speaker 1>doing so, but sadly, in doing so, people always have

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<v Speaker 1>to make comments, and the comments about his weight it

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<v Speaker 1>was counterproductive and I can only imagine what that must

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<v Speaker 1>feel like. I mean, Flavor Fight Flave just came out

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<v Speaker 1>and said, y'all just took a beautiful sweet man and

0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:48.679
<v Speaker 1>he fled social media because of y'all, Like, what are

0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:49.240
<v Speaker 1>you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 3>The hate?

0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>And there's like not a nicer guy, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>everyone is saying. I don't know him personally, but everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who has spoken of him speaks so highly of him

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<v Speaker 1>and what he's trying to accomplish. And it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>sad and sick to me that people jump on that, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Look his struggle, his journey has been well documented and

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<v Speaker 2>applaud him for being out there about it and his

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<v Speaker 2>success right now, Oh, his talent, but his success, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just you you I don't know. Yeah, you're happy for

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<v Speaker 2>him and do your thing. It's just we have, without

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<v Speaker 2>a doubt, been in that position that he was in,

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<v Speaker 2>in that you're looking at things online and you're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be strong, You're supposed to be able to be dismissive,

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<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to be able to say, oh, that person

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<v Speaker 2>is just some some loser in their basement somewhere, Da

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<v Speaker 2>da da. You do that. But those are the things

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<v Speaker 2>that absolutely hurt, and they hit and I have It

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<v Speaker 2>was a very big part, you know, this, of my

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<v Speaker 2>recovery insanity, when I got advised not to read anything

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<v Speaker 2>very early on, just don't read or listen to anything

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<v Speaker 2>that was so important than me recovering and still now

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<v Speaker 2>I hesitate to do anything on social media like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to admit that, but absolutely I am. I

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<v Speaker 2>am shying away from it for those reasons. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of Korean public public eye. We expect criticism,

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<v Speaker 2>we get it. But there's a difference between criticizing I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't like how you did that interview, why didn't you

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<v Speaker 2>ask about this, versus you're an idiot, You're you should

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<v Speaker 2>go to You're going to burn in hell for how

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<v Speaker 2>you handle it. That's different. That is the type of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that makes it very difficult to keep engaging.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, I didn't even tell you this.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of touched on it when I first came

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<v Speaker 1>into the studio. But last night I told you I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking at our Amy and TJ podcast Instagram feed

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<v Speaker 1>just to just see how we were doing and just

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<v Speaker 1>to see what the different clips were, and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>some I don't usually look at comments, but I saw

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<v Speaker 1>some comments about my appearance. Look, we're not in a studio,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have parent makeup, I don't look the same.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that. Maybe I looked when I was on

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<v Speaker 1>Good Morning America and there was just some really hateful

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<v Speaker 1>comments about how I look like what that I've aged tremendously,

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<v Speaker 1>that I that I that they can tell I'm an

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<v Speaker 1>alcoholic because my face is all puffy and my eyes

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<v Speaker 1>are swollen, and you know, just like and I started

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<v Speaker 1>reading it and I and it kept me up, like

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<v Speaker 1>it kept me up, and I had a hard time

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<v Speaker 1>going to sleep, and I thought, why am I looking

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<v Speaker 1>at this? So I think people just need to realize,

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<v Speaker 1>like it hurts, and it's not you know, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get over it and I'll be fine and it's but

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, I need a I need a

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<v Speaker 1>ring light on this, on this on this webcam we

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<v Speaker 1>have or I need to do. It really affects people,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I just wish I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be Pollyanna here, but I just wish people could be

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<v Speaker 1>kinder and keep your negative thoughts to yourself. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's a silly, crazy request, but you just it. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter who you are, if your jelly rolled, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're j Lo. Yeah, those types of comments eat away

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<v Speaker 1>at you. And I'm not saying you don't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we put ourselves in the public eye. I get that

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<v Speaker 1>you put yourself out there. You have to be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ready to handle criticism.

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<v Speaker 2>I get that there's a difference between criticism and hate.

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Seeing critique and bullying, there's a totally different thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>that different thing, that other thing is. I think what

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<v Speaker 2>has run jelly rolled off? It's run some people off.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know how much thicker skin.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean we don't post as much. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>post anywhere near as much.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't at all. And you know what, And I'm embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 2>This is embarrassing. I don't post as much about you. Yeah,

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:46.919
<v Speaker 2>that's up. Yeah, it really really is. I'm happy and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm proud of who I'm with. And but to shout

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<v Speaker 2>it from the mountaintop, I'm not shouting. I'm just a

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<v Speaker 2>post here or there. It's just I don't know. That's

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 2>that's too bad, And that's people people got on that

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:01.920
<v Speaker 2>gown to me, but they saw all years prior. He's

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 2>not posting about his marriage. He's not posting about his wife.

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.439
<v Speaker 2>There was a reason for that, right, and then because

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:11.360
<v Speaker 2>something wasn't going well, because I wasn't trying to put

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:14.159
<v Speaker 2>on a false impression that everything was cool. Now that

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 2>everything is great, I'm still holding back right because of that,

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 2>and that just that sucks. I'm embarrassed if that's the case,

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 2>but it is. Yes, they yes, you people out there

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<v Speaker 2>who pick up your phones, unlock them, click on an app,

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<v Speaker 2>then go find our page, then click the comment, write

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:45.119
<v Speaker 2>something hateful, hit send, and then go back to whatever

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 2>you were doing. For that, you all actually are having

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<v Speaker 2>an impact on how we behave day and day out

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<v Speaker 2>of our lives. And that's that's too bad. It's the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, I'm not proud of it. I wish

0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I could and I'll be fine, but it's just I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was mad at myself for caringpen.

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<v Speaker 2>You're human beings, You're humans.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time to hear her side of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the show so much. I was like, please

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 1>throw my name in the mix.

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 3>I need to be in on this. We were sure

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 3>she was going to be the next bachelorette and then

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:23.200
<v Speaker 3>something changed.

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm keeping things very very hush hush.

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:28.679
<v Speaker 3>Fans of The Bachelor know exactly what we're talking about.

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:32.959
<v Speaker 3>Joe and Serena sit down for an intimate conversation with

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Maria Georgis on Bachelor Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to ask.

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 3>I heard a rumor that you were dating at one

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 3>point one of Drake's best friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we have more, Sammy.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen to Bachelor Happy Hour on America's number one podcast network,

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<v Speaker 1>Monday Night, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Mentioned j Loo and Jlo's a human being and you

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<v Speaker 2>your daughter and Elise was the one like weeks ago,

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 2>maybe the month ago, people hate j Lo, Like, what

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 2>are you talking about? She kept telling us. People are

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:17.920
<v Speaker 2>canceling Jaylah.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going on TikTok and they're making videos making fun

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:24.440
<v Speaker 1>of her and they're imitating her and they're laughing at her,

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and they're calling her a poser and all sorts of names,

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<v Speaker 1>like is she even really from the Bronx? And I

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:34.119
<v Speaker 1>just thought, what is happening? What? And you know, Jlo

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>is promoting her new tour, she's promoting her her life

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 1>and her love and she's telling her story and you

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 1>know she's putting it out there one hundred percent and

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>you can have an opinion. Of course, that's you know,

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>part of being a performer and entertainer. You know that

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna either like or not like it, but

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>it's it's gotten to a point where it's just it's

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>it's just to say it's not kind is even an

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 1>under statement. It's bullying, as you pointed out, like you

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 1>can bully a celebrity. I actually really believe that. I

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>think some people think that that's not a thing, but

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>it is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing, because you know, a lot of people will disagree

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 2>with what you just said. That you are celebrity, you

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 2>are rich and famous, you got a burken bag on

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 2>your arm. What do you have to complain about? You

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 2>mad that I sent a nasty com You can't handle that,

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<v Speaker 2>I think. But what was important in what you said

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 2>was that you can bully a celebrity, And you can

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 2>bully a celebrity, but it's hard to bully a mother.

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to bully a wife. It's hard to bully

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 2>a husband. It's hard to bully an uncle. It's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to be when you call people by what they really are,

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 2>which is a human being, you're not so quick to

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<v Speaker 2>do so. You have to dehumanize the person first. She's

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 2>just a celebrity, she's another she's a thing, she's a

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only way you can talk about people because

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<v Speaker 2>if you talk about people, if you see them as

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<v Speaker 2>a human being, as a mother, who's who hurts or

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 2>you just wouldn't talk about people that way. So to

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<v Speaker 2>your yes, I agree with what you're saying, but people

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>are going to take issue with it because no, Bellie,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't bullieve celebrity. You're out there in the public.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, we can say anything you want to say

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<v Speaker 2>about you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost as if you become public property and public fodder,

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<v Speaker 1>and you almost not. I'm not going to say that

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.479
<v Speaker 1>people think you deserve it, but certainly they think you

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<v Speaker 1>should be able to handle it. But we're all you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I always tell the girls this too, and I when

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like this comes up, when we talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, it doesn't matter who you are. You have feelings,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a heart, you have you know you have,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how thick your skin is. Just because you've

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<v Speaker 1>chosen a career to perform or to be in the

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:43.239
<v Speaker 1>public eye doesn't mean that you deserve to handle or

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with hatred. That's a whole other, a whole

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>other kind of worms that I don't think you can

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<v Speaker 1>equate to. As you point out a human being, it's

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just easy to put people in a

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<v Speaker 1>box or up on a pedestal, and it's fun to

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>knock them down. It's fun to see them fall. But

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<v Speaker 1>having been in that position, I think, you know, I've

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 1>always we've known that as human beings, but the empathy

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 1>is even greater, and it doesn't matter who you are,

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter how much money you make, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter where you live. I still think that it's important

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 1>for us all to remember that we're human beings, and

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 1>my god, I hope we can treat each other better

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>than I've seen online.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, on Analyse was the one who was talking

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 2>about this over the past few weeks, and then it

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 2>got us curious enough to where we finally watched This

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Is Me Now her movie. It's promoting her album, promoting

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 2>her essentially her love story or her love story with

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Ben Athletic, but also just her relationships. Her a love addict.

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 1>She is exploring, you know, and look, you know she's

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>had three husbands, and I guess she's had three divorces.

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me. Ben is her fourth husband, and everyone her public,

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>her relationships, you know, her engagements, it's all been obviously

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 1>in the public, and I think she she wanted to explain,

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, her life and her goal and she said

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<v Speaker 1>when she was a little girl that when she grew up,

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted to be a woman in love and so

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of what motivated her. And yes, she's

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, had issues along the way, haven't we all.

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>And she put it out there and people can comment,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get that, but I just think the level

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>to which they've commented that the ridicule has just gone

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>way above and beyond just an opinion about a movie

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 1>or an opinion about music. That's fine. Everyone can music,

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that's fine.

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 2>But we like the movie that's great.

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Agreed, and we all have opinions about that, but you

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 1>don't have to be cruel about it.

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, it was just something about it. In watching

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 2>that video, which you can see she can go that

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 2>means she's just a ridiculous entertainer. She's unbelievable. But to

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 2>go through it and see your heart, at least me,

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 2>heart kind of hurts for to see what maybe she

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 2>felt she was trying to accomplish completely backfired and now

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 2>here this thing is it just it is something about

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 2>it that was relatable to us to a certain degree.

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 2>But heart goes out to her. So with all that, folks,

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 2>all you can say there is it doesn't matter if

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 2>it's j Low, it doesn't matter, if that's the person

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 2>at the checkout counter. It doesn't matter if there's somebody

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 2>on the street, on the bus, wherever, somebody's everybody's going

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 2>through something. And I always say it, just give folks

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a break.

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, Mom said it best if you

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 1>don't have something nice to say, don't say it at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I didn't have anything nice, so I stopped