Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to Amy and TJ. And TJ is already
Speaker 1: laughing at me because I have my broadcasting voice. I
Speaker 1: can't help it.
Speaker 2: Why do you okay? Starting it? Okay, let's pretend like
Speaker 2: we're starting all over and you like talking to me
Speaker 2: at home.
Speaker 1: Hey, welcome, I don't know, it feels weird. Welcome everyone.
Speaker 2: It's so hard to be natural, isn't it?
Speaker 1: When it when it comes to an intro, Yes, you're
Speaker 1: usually punching it with some energy. I don't know, almost
Speaker 1: thirty years of broadcasting experience. You go into broadcasting mode.
Speaker 1: So yes, again, it's okay. Proof is in the pudding.
Speaker 1: All you're doing is making sure that you start every podcast.
Speaker 2: You see how you just that just came out naturally?
Speaker 1: Right? You have been I say this to you coaching me.
Speaker 2: No, not coaching, but I say this to you all
Speaker 2: the time. When we were on GM A three, sitting
Speaker 2: on the set and before we start the show and
Speaker 2: there's counting out five four three, and I'm talking to you,
Speaker 2: I'm like poking. Just as soon as the show starts,
Speaker 2: the cameras come on and our MIC's come up, we're
Speaker 2: in the middle of conversation, and that's when you are
Speaker 2: nailing because you're at your best. You ain't thinking about it.
Speaker 2: You're not looking at a prompter. You just boom and
Speaker 2: you just go boom. But we Andy was the one here,
Speaker 2: our producer in the room. He said, you know what, Amy,
Speaker 2: I think you got this today. You can do it.
Speaker 1: And I thank you Andy, thank you very much for
Speaker 1: that encouragement.
Speaker 2: I've ever heard a ringing endorsement.
Speaker 1: Andy, I thought you were good enough but not great,
Speaker 1: but not terrible. You know who was great today?
Speaker 2: Homes Oh you all, yes, Beanie bean. Today was a
Speaker 2: very big day. We are recording. We hustled here because Sabine,
Speaker 2: eleven year old had her first ever track meet and
Speaker 2: her first ever athletic competition in her young life. Was
Speaker 2: today an official track meet that we have been working
Speaker 2: on and training for for weeks, her for months, but
Speaker 2: we've been going out really hard with her on the
Speaker 2: track for the past couple of weeks and so.
Speaker 1: It was awesome. It was it was. There are those
Speaker 1: moments you're coaching your kids. You're hoping that they're joways,
Speaker 1: just going to give it their all. You're hoping that
Speaker 1: you don't want necessarily a victory. You just want them
Speaker 1: to give it their all. Right, that's what you're trying
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: So we wanted to win though, don't get me wrong, yeah,
Speaker 2: one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: But anyway, you're not telling them that, You're just saying
Speaker 1: all I care about is that you give it your all.
Speaker 1: And so it's been really sweet to watch TJ getting
Speaker 1: up really early with Sabine pretty much every morning for
Speaker 1: the last several days, going to a track with was
Speaker 1: not easy to find in New York City, by the way,
Speaker 1: in Manhattan, and getting her out onto a real track
Speaker 1: and training for the two hundred meter and timing her
Speaker 1: and her splits and helping her with her form, and
Speaker 1: she was such a good student. Not every kid takes
Speaker 1: direction well from a parent, especially, But I watched it
Speaker 1: all happen. And today was the track meet. She was
Speaker 1: in the two hundred and TJ tell us what happened.
Speaker 2: She won her heat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, she's got legs for miles, she's got
Speaker 1: your body. You call her. Your nickname for her is
Speaker 1: so cute, stix. She just got these She's all legs.
Speaker 1: I mean, she was built to be a runner. I
Speaker 1: mean it's just it's and it's so sweet. To see
Speaker 1: her just look at you and look for your direction.
Speaker 1: She knows her daddy knows how to run races now,
Speaker 1: and so it's just it's so sweet to see it happen.
Speaker 1: And how sweet is it that she actually won. That
Speaker 1: is rare and cool and should be celebrated.
Speaker 2: Every parent can relate to that. You want you look,
Speaker 2: you do want your kid to win, of course, but
Speaker 2: oftentimes that's for you, right, that's for the parents. I
Speaker 2: want my child to win. I could be proud, but
Speaker 2: I just wanted her to be able to feel good
Speaker 2: about the race that she ran. And the last thing
Speaker 2: is to run your race. Do not worry about where
Speaker 2: any other kid is. Run your race and you're gonna
Speaker 2: be okay. And sure enough, she ran her race. There
Speaker 2: was a kid and you saw this. There was a
Speaker 2: day that we went out to practice with her. The
Speaker 2: one day I went and she was like she was dying,
Speaker 2: like she's just gonna throw up, and she was hurting.
Speaker 2: It was just pain, like running hurts, right, it does. Today.
Speaker 2: I saw her as another kid was approaching in the
Speaker 2: straightaway and that two hundred meter was catching up with
Speaker 2: her and she was slowing down. You could tell she
Speaker 2: was struggling, and she kicked into another gear when she
Speaker 2: saw that other kid. And that was a great life
Speaker 2: lesson for her to see that I can push through
Speaker 2: something and to watch her do it. I didn't have
Speaker 2: to encourage her or anything. She learned something about herself today.
Speaker 2: That was That was the best part of the day.
Speaker 1: I also agree that teaching your kids, if you put
Speaker 1: in the practice, you put in the work. It doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you're gonna win, but you have a better shot
Speaker 1: than most when you put the work in. So she
Speaker 1: did it. She got up early, she went in all
Speaker 1: kinds of weather, and it paid off. And that's an
Speaker 1: also very important lesson for folks to learn. She did
Speaker 1: just wake up and yeah, she's got long legs and
Speaker 1: she ran faster than everybody. No, she worked at it.
Speaker 1: She she wanted on her form, and she got up
Speaker 1: and did the hard thing. So I love those types
Speaker 1: of lessons. Win or lose, there are great lessons to have,
Speaker 1: but it's maybe even a little extra sweet when it's
Speaker 1: a win.
Speaker 2: It was fun to us and we were leaving here
Speaker 2: immediately to go celebrate with her, to go party. She's
Speaker 2: holding onto the champagne. She's not gonna pop it until
Speaker 2: we get there. So that's Frue. You're standing by texting
Speaker 2: as we speak. She's having a good time. But today, folks,
Speaker 2: on this episode, we are gonna we're gonna quickly tick
Speaker 2: through a few topics that have gotten us interested, worked up, sad,
Speaker 2: even to a certain degree. But Robes has worked up
Speaker 2: about new breast cancer screening guidelines. A former GMA colleague
Speaker 2: of ours has now been fired. We have something in
Speaker 2: common with Jelly Roll, and we want to give a
Speaker 2: collective hug to Jlo Lopez. We're gonna hit those things
Speaker 2: here in the next few minutes. So let's start at
Speaker 2: the top here. Breast cancer screens. We've done a couple
Speaker 2: of episodes. Everybody knows you're a breast cancer survivor and
Speaker 2: you've talked about this for a long time. But now
Speaker 2: this task force, they are the authority on breast cancer screenings.
Speaker 2: They have now gone back on guidelines that they gave
Speaker 2: us what ten years ago, Please tell forty year old
Speaker 2: women now should be getting breat cancers.
Speaker 1: They have flip flopped so many times, and that is
Speaker 1: my biggest frustration because it is already confusing, and then
Speaker 1: they just make it more confusing, and so when I
Speaker 1: ended up getting my screening, my first mammogram at forty,
Speaker 1: it was only because of my job Good Morning America.
Speaker 1: They asked me to do that, just to show women
Speaker 1: to start Breast Cancer Awareness Month that at forty you,
Speaker 1: I mean, Robin Roberts was the big impetus for this.
Speaker 1: You should get your baseline mammogram. But that went against
Speaker 1: what the US Preventive Services Task Force suggested, which was
Speaker 1: fifty if you had no family history, if you were
Speaker 1: of average risk.
Speaker 2: And that's been the case for the past, that's been
Speaker 2: in place with.
Speaker 1: Ten years, yes, and there was a time where I
Speaker 1: believe the American Cancer Society said forty five. So it
Speaker 1: just you know, look, busy women, busy lives, and who
Speaker 1: wants to go to the doctor and get a test
Speaker 1: they might not need or probably don't need in their minds, right,
Speaker 1: So if you tell me I can wait till I'm fifty,
Speaker 1: I'm waiting till I'm fifty. If it hadn't been for
Speaker 1: my job, I would have waited until I was fifty
Speaker 1: or until I had symptoms, which is usually when it's
Speaker 1: too late. So I credit just knowing other breast cancer
Speaker 1: survivors and how having a work assignment. That is the
Speaker 1: only reason I found my cancer at the age of forty.
Speaker 1: And just for the record, at the age of forty,
Speaker 1: a seemingly healthy young woman with no family history, I
Speaker 1: had it. I had two malignant tumors, it had already
Speaker 1: spread to my limp notes. So that's just the reality
Speaker 1: that so many other women are facing. So if you're
Speaker 1: told you can wait to your fifty, you've got ten
Speaker 1: years now, where that's not time you can spare if
Speaker 1: you're already if you already have breast cancer. And the
Speaker 1: only way the best test we have right now is
Speaker 1: a mammogram. So anyway, they've now said, hey, ladies, whoops,
Speaker 1: Now you should go at forty. And there is still
Speaker 1: a sticking point that's angering a lot of medical professionals
Speaker 1: who work with breast cancer patients. They're saying every other year,
Speaker 1: not every year. And the problem is when this task
Speaker 1: force makes these types of recommendations, it affects what doctors recommend,
Speaker 1: it affects what insurance companies will cover, and it definitely
Speaker 1: affects women living and dying. And they said, just by
Speaker 1: this was some medical professional said, just by changing the
Speaker 1: guidelines from fifty to forty. They believe that that could
Speaker 1: have a significant impact on women surviving breast cancer.
Speaker 2: Okay, you've changed the guidelines from fifty to forty, but
Speaker 2: you're saying every other year at forty versus every year
Speaker 2: at forty. Yeah, I mean, I mean what it isn't
Speaker 2: somebody going to argue? And so in five years, this
Speaker 2: task force are going to come back you say, you
Speaker 2: know what, we should do it every year starting exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: There was a doctor who was quoted saying, we can
Speaker 1: save even more lives, up to nearly twenty percent more
Speaker 1: lives with this updated strategy. There is no new information
Speaker 1: out there. This is just a group of they're actually
Speaker 1: a volunteer group of folks, most of whom do not
Speaker 1: treat breast cancer patients at all, making these recommendations. And
Speaker 1: it has a huge financial impact on the insurance companies,
Speaker 1: on the doctors, on the medical professionals. So there's just
Speaker 1: so much at play here, and the reality is the
Speaker 1: most important thing that should be at play is a
Speaker 1: woman's life. And that is what's frustrating to me that
Speaker 1: the only only reason they claim, oh there's unnecessary testing,
Speaker 1: there's unnecessary anxiety for younger women who have dense breast tissue.
Speaker 1: That's why we're only saying every other year, because they'll
Speaker 1: be unnecessary tests and unnecessary worry. You know what, all
Speaker 1: take being worried, All take getting a false positive to
Speaker 1: find out I don't have preast cancer versus not getting
Speaker 1: the test at all and not knowing I have breast cancer.
Speaker 2: Well, you're speaking again too, You're you're speaking from an
Speaker 2: experience you have, and I understand obviously your passion, But
Speaker 2: what do these folks again, I don't not familiar with
Speaker 2: whose this group is, how they get on this task force?
Speaker 2: But are they not to you talk about the money aspect.
Speaker 2: There's a financial aspect and there is like some influence
Speaker 2: possibly on this group. So you're taking a lot of
Speaker 2: people can't see what you did. But I am on
Speaker 2: the outside to a certain degree and not as entrenched
Speaker 2: as you are to where I think, well, surely these
Speaker 2: people are trying to do what's best. Surely they only
Speaker 2: have the interest of women's health and lives in them
Speaker 2: in their mind.
Speaker 1: They are saying that with the cost of it as well,
Speaker 1: without a doubt, And I would just argue, you can't
Speaker 1: put a price on a mother, on a sister, on
Speaker 1: a daughter, And this is breast cancer affects men as well.
Speaker 1: The mammogram issue, though, is what we're talking about, and
Speaker 1: that is for women. And so when I speak to that,
Speaker 1: I just say, I don't think you can put a
Speaker 1: cost on a woman's life. And of course I am
Speaker 1: coming at it from a very subjective point of view,
Speaker 1: knowing specifically that I would have waited until I was fifty,
Speaker 1: and had I done that, I don't know that I
Speaker 1: would be here today.
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's from where you're your standpoint, and you
Speaker 2: say it that way, you count it that way. But
Speaker 2: it is a very good chance if you followed the
Speaker 2: guidelines that were in place previously, you would not be
Speaker 2: alive today.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's where the passion.
Speaker 1: It's understandable. Yes, So anyway, I applaud them finally making
Speaker 1: it forty. I don't applaud the fact that they're saying
Speaker 1: every other year. I think that is cost saving. And
Speaker 1: they can say it's about unnecessary test, which again is
Speaker 1: cost but they're also claiming that they're saving women from
Speaker 1: undo anxiety from a false positive. I say, save me that,
Speaker 1: I'll handle my own anxiety, give me the test.
Speaker 2: Well, So, I mean we're not the ones in the business.
Speaker 2: We've had doctors on here, we had you're on colleges
Speaker 2: on here, We've had doctor Coleman on here. Of course,
Speaker 2: they are the ones the experts who can give you
Speaker 2: the advice or whatever you should do with this, and
Speaker 2: who you should We can't give that. All we can
Speaker 2: do is tell you that they're now saying women, you
Speaker 2: should go get mammograms starting at forty and you should
Speaker 2: get it every other year. That's all we can do,
Speaker 2: right tod.
Speaker 1: And I would just say, as someone who's been through this,
Speaker 1: I just want every woman out there to feel empowered
Speaker 1: to push for the healthcare that they want to receive.
Speaker 1: And I think anyone, any doctor worth anything, is going
Speaker 1: to support that and understand that allowing women to have
Speaker 1: access to mammograms is in a very important part of
Speaker 1: our health care.
Speaker 2: You say that thing about like women to be empowered.
Speaker 2: This is I've didn't plan on doing this now, but
Speaker 2: I will because you said that and it triggered it.
Speaker 2: Empower women. I have seen what's the name of the
Speaker 2: medicine you need to live sinthroid, synthroid all right, you
Speaker 2: have to have You have been trying to get your
Speaker 2: prescription of synthroid for.
Speaker 1: How long it's been like two months?
Speaker 2: Okay, And the reason you can't get it is because it's.
Speaker 1: Just a frustrating medical system. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people can understand this. You've got doctors who are overworked
Speaker 1: and they've got a big caseload and they don't keep
Speaker 1: track of their patients to an extent. And so, yes,
Speaker 1: I was out of my synthroid. This is for a
Speaker 1: thyroid condition I have. And I got the blood work,
Speaker 1: I did everything I was supposed to, and there's just
Speaker 1: all of there's just constant red tape, and there's just it.
Speaker 1: We're busy, and so if someone puts a hurdle in
Speaker 1: front of me and says calls me back and says, hey,
Speaker 1: you have to now have a physical and I said, well,
Speaker 1: I just did my blood work. Well now she won't
Speaker 1: renew the prescription because you have to come in again
Speaker 1: for a physical when I just had one a few
Speaker 1: months ago. It's just there's all this paperwork and all
Speaker 1: this red tape, and then you think you get the
Speaker 1: test you need and then they tell you we're not
Speaker 1: giving you the prescription. Unless you come in and do that,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just a non stop.
Speaker 2: You you had a synthroid.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't renew it again, even though I just got
Speaker 1: my blood work last month.
Speaker 2: Okay, what happens if you don't take synthroid?
Speaker 1: Eventually? Yeah, my body would eventually shut down. It would
Speaker 1: take a long time.
Speaker 2: Well, but your brother was testing about it.
Speaker 1: So during the pandemic, I yes, de point, this is
Speaker 1: my only wake up call to it. So I've had
Speaker 1: I've been taking synth rid since I was twenty nine.
Speaker 1: After my first baby, my byroid completely depleted. So I
Speaker 1: think it's called hashimotos or something like that, but anyway,
Speaker 1: I have to have it, so I stopped taking it. No,
Speaker 1: that's the name of the thyroid syndrome. My you're getting
Speaker 1: nods from Emma and from Andy. I'm not making it up.
Speaker 1: I didn't just make up a word. So during the pandemic,
Speaker 1: I was just it was hard to get a hold
Speaker 1: of a doctor, and so I thought, what would happen
Speaker 1: if I just stopped taking it? Really dumb idea. No
Speaker 1: one ever do this. And it took I think two months,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I was like weak and
Speaker 1: shaking and almost fainting. I could barely function, and I realized,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I stopped taking the synthroid. I called
Speaker 1: my brother, who's a physician. He's like, you're a moron,
Speaker 1: And I said, could I die if I never take
Speaker 1: in throat again? He was like, yes, you eventually would.
Speaker 1: Your thyroid regulates your entire body. It would take a
Speaker 1: while and it wouldn't be fun. I didn't ask him, well,
Speaker 1: tell me that.
Speaker 2: No, really, what are we talking months? We're talking years,
Speaker 2: talking decades?
Speaker 1: No, not decades. I mean, I don't know how long
Speaker 1: it would take. What I'm saying, end of the world,
Speaker 1: I'd be in trouble.
Speaker 2: But no, you you'll are saying this that you need
Speaker 2: something to live, and you have doctors making it difficult
Speaker 2: for you to get the thing you need to live.
Speaker 2: That is a problem. And look, I know you are
Speaker 2: sitting We're sitting here in a very privileged situation with
Speaker 2: the best doctors in the world and access and healthcare
Speaker 2: and all these things. That's great, But for you, you need
Speaker 2: something to live. And I have heard you on all
Speaker 2: these phone calls. I'm like, what the hell?
Speaker 1: Why is this hard?
Speaker 2: Why is this hard.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think so many people out there though,
Speaker 1: who have to have medicine to actually yes, as you
Speaker 1: point out, live understand it can be a frustrating, arduous task.
Speaker 1: Even if you do all the things you're supposed to do.
Speaker 1: They lost the paperwork, you have to come back in again,
Speaker 1: you have to come into somewhere else to get blood work.
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's exhausting. But yes, I would like
Speaker 1: to live, so I will get I will get the synthroid.
Speaker 1: Trust me. It's just gonna take a few more steps.
Speaker 2: Apparently, Yeah, apparently we're gonna have to plan a heist
Speaker 2: to go get this stuff, all right, but any that's
Speaker 2: one thing. But yes, the breastkinds of screening is if
Speaker 2: you don't know, ladies, read up on it, look at it,
Speaker 2: and please talk to your doctor. But because the guidelines
Speaker 2: have changed once again. The other thing we mentioned want
Speaker 2: to talk about today is it's getting around and making
Speaker 2: some headlines. But it has to do with a former
Speaker 2: colleague of ours who, according to the headlines at least,
Speaker 2: has been let go from ABC News and Good Morning America,
Speaker 2: where he worked as a meteorologist for the past ten years.
Speaker 2: Talking about Rob Marciano. Now, the details of it you
Speaker 2: can go read for yourself. Not going to repeat a
Speaker 2: lot of that stuff, but we know he's not working
Speaker 2: that any there anymore. We were with somebody just had
Speaker 2: a breakfast the other morning where somebody reminded us, hey,
Speaker 2: nobody leaves ABC News in a pretty fashion. That's exactly
Speaker 2: what they said.
Speaker 1: Word for word. And yes, it's it's a tough situation. Yes,
Speaker 1: we have walked down that road and it's not an
Speaker 1: easy one. And I know he also has and I
Speaker 1: think he might still be going through a divorce. So
Speaker 1: we know what it's like to have your entire life
Speaker 1: up ended, career and personal life. So and we both
Speaker 1: have known Rob for a long time. You've known him
Speaker 1: longer than I have.
Speaker 2: We were at starting CNN in two thousand and six.
Speaker 2: He was there, and we spent all those years together
Speaker 2: at CNN. A lot this his He could pull out
Speaker 2: his phone now and his phone is flooded with messages
Speaker 2: from me over the past decade of me complimenting him.
Speaker 2: He is one of the best guys I've ever seen
Speaker 2: in the field covering weather. He is just good. He
Speaker 2: is good at it, and I've always marveled, and I
Speaker 2: like people who can handle live like that too, So
Speaker 2: we don't obviously we don't know all the details, and
Speaker 2: some of them that are out there are a little
Speaker 2: sketchy and sallacious and and tabloid type clickable headline stuff
Speaker 2: that we are not going to get into. But whatever
Speaker 2: it is, it's we hate to see somebody who's been
Speaker 2: a friend and colleague for a long time end up
Speaker 2: in this place's position to be talked about the way
Speaker 2: he's being talked about to some degree. But like I said,
Speaker 2: that was a weird statement to get just yesterday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's you know, and you said it best.
Speaker 1: It's not our place and we would never make it
Speaker 1: our place to comment specifically on any of the details,
Speaker 1: but we do know what it's like to have those
Speaker 1: headlines to be the subject of clickbait, and that's a
Speaker 1: tough position for anyone to be going through, especially someone
Speaker 1: who is a father of two. I know how much
Speaker 1: he loves his kids. He talks about them all the time,
Speaker 1: so it's just tough to see those headlines almost for
Speaker 1: the sake of his family, his kids, him, all of that,
Speaker 1: So our heart goes out to him, and I agree
Speaker 1: he is. There's no one, you know. I mean, he
Speaker 1: can weather from a tornado to a hurricane to a snowstorm.
Speaker 1: He's been through it all, Yes, and he happily jumps
Speaker 1: on those planes and rolls up his sleeves and puts
Speaker 1: on those rubber boots and reports on everything for so
Speaker 1: many people at the expensive of time with his family.
Speaker 1: So I do applaud all the work he has bravely
Speaker 1: done over the last decade or so, and we wish
Speaker 1: him the very best.
Speaker 2: No matter what. We don't know all the details, so
Speaker 2: it's not some defense of anything he has or hasn't done.
Speaker 2: It's just a matter of you just you just hate
Speaker 2: to see it in that way for somebody. But that's
Speaker 2: something that's and of course people immediately start sending us
Speaker 2: messages and hey did you see this? And you know
Speaker 2: this is going on because of our connection to that place.
Speaker 2: So that's there. The is this a happier note? Jelly roll?
Speaker 2: Jellyroll is off social media? Well, he jumped off, so
Speaker 2: he's he said he is in a better mental place
Speaker 2: and healthier because he stopped looking at social media. Who
Speaker 2: can relate to that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a year hiatus and I have to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I loved it. It took you know, you get into
Speaker 1: it's almost like a muscle. You're flexing when you're posting,
Speaker 1: and you're you're sharing and you're and then when it
Speaker 1: bites you in the ass, there is a freedom to
Speaker 1: walking away from it. I hate why and why he
Speaker 1: had to do it, because you know, look, this is
Speaker 1: a dude who I loved reading about the fact that
Speaker 1: he's about to run a five k next month. I
Speaker 1: believe for charity, so it's for all the good reasons,
Speaker 1: and he has been very public saying I think he's
Speaker 1: already lost seventy pounds. I mean, we are always applauding
Speaker 1: better health choices and taking it on and owning it
Speaker 1: and being proud of it and inspiring other people and
Speaker 1: doing so, but sadly, in doing so, people always have
Speaker 1: to make comments, and the comments about his weight it
Speaker 1: was counterproductive and I can only imagine what that must
Speaker 1: feel like. I mean, Flavor Fight Flave just came out
Speaker 1: and said, y'all just took a beautiful sweet man and
Speaker 1: he fled social media because of y'all, Like, what are
Speaker 1: you doing?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 3: The hate?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 1: And there's like not a nicer guy, and that's what
Speaker 1: everyone is saying. I don't know him personally, but everyone
Speaker 1: who has spoken of him speaks so highly of him
Speaker 1: and what he's trying to accomplish. And it's just it's
Speaker 1: sad and sick to me that people jump on that, Oh.
Speaker 2: Look his struggle, his journey has been well documented and
Speaker 2: applaud him for being out there about it and his
Speaker 2: success right now, Oh, his talent, but his success, it's
Speaker 2: just you you I don't know. Yeah, you're happy for
Speaker 2: him and do your thing. It's just we have, without
Speaker 2: a doubt, been in that position that he was in,
Speaker 2: in that you're looking at things online and you're supposed
Speaker 2: to be strong, You're supposed to be able to be dismissive,
Speaker 2: you're supposed to be able to say, oh, that person
Speaker 2: is just some some loser in their basement somewhere, Da
Speaker 2: da da. You do that. But those are the things
Speaker 2: that absolutely hurt, and they hit and I have It
Speaker 2: was a very big part, you know, this, of my
Speaker 2: recovery insanity, when I got advised not to read anything
Speaker 2: very early on, just don't read or listen to anything
Speaker 2: that was so important than me recovering and still now
Speaker 2: I hesitate to do anything on social media like I'm
Speaker 2: I hate to admit that, but absolutely I am. I
Speaker 2: am shying away from it for those reasons. It's not
Speaker 2: a matter of Korean public public eye. We expect criticism,
Speaker 2: we get it. But there's a difference between criticizing I
Speaker 2: didn't like how you did that interview, why didn't you
Speaker 2: ask about this, versus you're an idiot, You're you should
Speaker 2: go to You're going to burn in hell for how
Speaker 2: you handle it. That's different. That is the type of
Speaker 2: stuff that makes it very difficult to keep engaging.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I didn't even tell you this.
Speaker 1: I kind of touched on it when I first came
Speaker 1: into the studio. But last night I told you I
Speaker 1: was looking at our Amy and TJ podcast Instagram feed
Speaker 1: just to just see how we were doing and just
Speaker 1: to see what the different clips were, and I saw
Speaker 1: some I don't usually look at comments, but I saw
Speaker 1: some comments about my appearance. Look, we're not in a studio,
Speaker 1: I don't have parent makeup, I don't look the same.
Speaker 1: You know that. Maybe I looked when I was on
Speaker 1: Good Morning America and there was just some really hateful
Speaker 1: comments about how I look like what that I've aged tremendously,
Speaker 1: that I that I that they can tell I'm an
Speaker 1: alcoholic because my face is all puffy and my eyes
Speaker 1: are swollen, and you know, just like and I started
Speaker 1: reading it and I and it kept me up, like
Speaker 1: it kept me up, and I had a hard time
Speaker 1: going to sleep, and I thought, why am I looking
Speaker 1: at this? So I think people just need to realize,
Speaker 1: like it hurts, and it's not you know, and I'll
Speaker 1: get over it and I'll be fine and it's but
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I need a I need a
Speaker 1: ring light on this, on this on this webcam we
Speaker 1: have or I need to do. It really affects people,
Speaker 1: and I just I just wish I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: be Pollyanna here, but I just wish people could be
Speaker 1: kinder and keep your negative thoughts to yourself. I know
Speaker 1: that's a silly, crazy request, but you just it. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who you are, if your jelly rolled, if
Speaker 1: you're j Lo. Yeah, those types of comments eat away
Speaker 1: at you. And I'm not saying you don't you know,
Speaker 1: we put ourselves in the public eye. I get that
Speaker 1: you put yourself out there. You have to be you know,
Speaker 1: ready to handle criticism.
Speaker 2: I get that there's a difference between criticism and hate.
Speaker 2: Seeing critique and bullying, there's a totally different thing, and
Speaker 2: that different thing, that other thing is. I think what
Speaker 2: has run jelly rolled off? It's run some people off.
Speaker 2: But I don't know how much thicker skin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we don't post as much. I don't
Speaker 1: post anywhere near as much.
Speaker 2: I don't at all. And you know what, And I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 2: This is embarrassing. I don't post as much about you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's up. Yeah, it really really is. I'm happy and
Speaker 2: I'm proud of who I'm with. And but to shout
Speaker 2: it from the mountaintop, I'm not shouting. I'm just a
Speaker 2: post here or there. It's just I don't know. That's
Speaker 2: that's too bad, And that's people people got on that
Speaker 2: gown to me, but they saw all years prior. He's
Speaker 2: not posting about his marriage. He's not posting about his wife.
Speaker 2: There was a reason for that, right, and then because
Speaker 2: something wasn't going well, because I wasn't trying to put
Speaker 2: on a false impression that everything was cool. Now that
Speaker 2: everything is great, I'm still holding back right because of that,
Speaker 2: and that just that sucks. I'm embarrassed if that's the case,
Speaker 2: but it is. Yes, they yes, you people out there
Speaker 2: who pick up your phones, unlock them, click on an app,
Speaker 2: then go find our page, then click the comment, write
Speaker 2: something hateful, hit send, and then go back to whatever
Speaker 2: you were doing. For that, you all actually are having
Speaker 2: an impact on how we behave day and day out
Speaker 2: of our lives. And that's that's too bad. It's the truth.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I'm not proud of it. I wish
Speaker 1: I could and I'll be fine, but it's just I was.
Speaker 1: I was mad at myself for caringpen.
Speaker 2: You're human beings, You're humans.
Speaker 3: It's time to hear her side of the story.
Speaker 1: I love the show so much. I was like, please
Speaker 1: throw my name in the mix.
Speaker 3: I need to be in on this. We were sure
Speaker 3: she was going to be the next bachelorette and then
Speaker 3: something changed.
Speaker 1: I'm keeping things very very hush hush.
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Speaker 1: Monday Night, you.
Speaker 2: Mentioned j Loo and Jlo's a human being and you
Speaker 2: your daughter and Elise was the one like weeks ago,
Speaker 2: maybe the month ago, people hate j Lo, Like, what
Speaker 2: are you talking about? She kept telling us. People are
Speaker 2: canceling Jaylah.
Speaker 1: They're going on TikTok and they're making videos making fun
Speaker 1: of her and they're imitating her and they're laughing at her,
Speaker 1: and they're calling her a poser and all sorts of names,
Speaker 1: like is she even really from the Bronx? And I
Speaker 1: just thought, what is happening? What? And you know, Jlo
Speaker 1: is promoting her new tour, she's promoting her her life
Speaker 1: and her love and she's telling her story and you
Speaker 1: know she's putting it out there one hundred percent and
Speaker 1: you can have an opinion. Of course, that's you know,
Speaker 1: part of being a performer and entertainer. You know that
Speaker 1: people are gonna either like or not like it, but
Speaker 1: it's it's gotten to a point where it's just it's
Speaker 1: it's just to say it's not kind is even an
Speaker 1: under statement. It's bullying, as you pointed out, like you
Speaker 1: can bully a celebrity. I actually really believe that. I
Speaker 1: think some people think that that's not a thing, but
Speaker 1: it is a.
Speaker 2: Thing, because you know, a lot of people will disagree
Speaker 2: with what you just said. That you are celebrity, you
Speaker 2: are rich and famous, you got a burken bag on
Speaker 2: your arm. What do you have to complain about? You
Speaker 2: mad that I sent a nasty com You can't handle that,
Speaker 2: I think. But what was important in what you said
Speaker 2: was that you can bully a celebrity, And you can
Speaker 2: bully a celebrity, but it's hard to bully a mother.
Speaker 2: It's hard to bully a wife. It's hard to bully
Speaker 2: a husband. It's hard to bully an uncle. It's hard
Speaker 2: to be when you call people by what they really are,
Speaker 2: which is a human being, you're not so quick to
Speaker 2: do so. You have to dehumanize the person first. She's
Speaker 2: just a celebrity, she's another she's a thing, she's a
Speaker 2: That's the only way you can talk about people because
Speaker 2: if you talk about people, if you see them as
Speaker 2: a human being, as a mother, who's who hurts or
Speaker 2: you just wouldn't talk about people that way. So to
Speaker 2: your yes, I agree with what you're saying, but people
Speaker 2: are going to take issue with it because no, Bellie,
Speaker 2: you can't bullieve celebrity. You're out there in the public.
Speaker 2: Of course, we can say anything you want to say
Speaker 2: about you.
Speaker 1: It's almost as if you become public property and public fodder,
Speaker 1: and you almost not. I'm not going to say that
Speaker 1: people think you deserve it, but certainly they think you
Speaker 1: should be able to handle it. But we're all you know.
Speaker 1: I always tell the girls this too, and I when
Speaker 1: stuff like this comes up, when we talk about it,
Speaker 1: I say, it doesn't matter who you are. You have feelings,
Speaker 1: you have a heart, you have you know you have,
Speaker 1: no matter how thick your skin is. Just because you've
Speaker 1: chosen a career to perform or to be in the
Speaker 1: public eye doesn't mean that you deserve to handle or
Speaker 1: to deal with hatred. That's a whole other, a whole
Speaker 1: other kind of worms that I don't think you can
Speaker 1: equate to. As you point out a human being, it's
Speaker 1: I think it's just easy to put people in a
Speaker 1: box or up on a pedestal, and it's fun to
Speaker 1: knock them down. It's fun to see them fall. But
Speaker 1: having been in that position, I think, you know, I've
Speaker 1: always we've known that as human beings, but the empathy
Speaker 1: is even greater, and it doesn't matter who you are,
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how much money you make, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter where you live. I still think that it's important
Speaker 1: for us all to remember that we're human beings, and
Speaker 1: my god, I hope we can treat each other better
Speaker 1: than I've seen online.
Speaker 2: So yeah, on Analyse was the one who was talking
Speaker 2: about this over the past few weeks, and then it
Speaker 2: got us curious enough to where we finally watched This
Speaker 2: Is Me Now her movie. It's promoting her album, promoting
Speaker 2: her essentially her love story or her love story with
Speaker 2: Ben Athletic, but also just her relationships. Her a love addict.
Speaker 1: She is exploring, you know, and look, you know she's
Speaker 1: had three husbands, and I guess she's had three divorces.
Speaker 1: Excuse me. Ben is her fourth husband, and everyone her public,
Speaker 1: her relationships, you know, her engagements, it's all been obviously
Speaker 1: in the public, and I think she she wanted to explain,
Speaker 1: you know, her life and her goal and she said
Speaker 1: when she was a little girl that when she grew up,
Speaker 1: she wanted to be a woman in love and so
Speaker 1: that was kind of what motivated her. And yes, she's
Speaker 1: you know, had issues along the way, haven't we all.
Speaker 1: And she put it out there and people can comment,
Speaker 1: and I get that, but I just think the level
Speaker 1: to which they've commented that the ridicule has just gone
Speaker 1: way above and beyond just an opinion about a movie
Speaker 1: or an opinion about music. That's fine. Everyone can music,
Speaker 1: that's fine.
Speaker 2: But we like the movie that's great.
Speaker 1: Agreed, and we all have opinions about that, but you
Speaker 1: don't have to be cruel about it.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, it was just something about it. In watching
Speaker 2: that video, which you can see she can go that
Speaker 2: means she's just a ridiculous entertainer. She's unbelievable. But to
Speaker 2: go through it and see your heart, at least me,
Speaker 2: heart kind of hurts for to see what maybe she
Speaker 2: felt she was trying to accomplish completely backfired and now
Speaker 2: here this thing is it just it is something about
Speaker 2: it that was relatable to us to a certain degree.
Speaker 2: But heart goes out to her. So with all that, folks,
Speaker 2: all you can say there is it doesn't matter if
Speaker 2: it's j Low, it doesn't matter, if that's the person
Speaker 2: at the checkout counter. It doesn't matter if there's somebody
Speaker 2: on the street, on the bus, wherever, somebody's everybody's going
Speaker 2: through something. And I always say it, just give folks
Speaker 2: a little bit of a break.
Speaker 1: And you know what, Mom said it best if you
Speaker 1: don't have something nice to say, don't say it at all.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't have anything nice, so I stopped