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Speaker 2: a value effort. They score thirty nine points in the
Speaker 2: third quarter to give them a four point lead heading
Speaker 2: into the four quarter. But it wasn't enough to turnovers
Speaker 2: deal a man tonight. Far too many careless turnovers. But
Speaker 2: they played a value game, and I think about it.
Speaker 2: You had three guys in mid twenties and you still
Speaker 2: couldn't get it done. That's a very good team, uh A.
Speaker 2: J Mitchell, Oh my goodness, he is sen sate to
Speaker 2: watch him up close. Guys, Look, you gotta think about this.
Speaker 2: When Shaye went to the bench that started the second quarter,
Speaker 2: they have the Lakers had a five point lead.
Speaker 1: When he came back in the game, they were up nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that is the difference because that is what
Speaker 2: they can do that very few teams can do that.
Speaker 1: When their best player goes to the.
Speaker 2: Beach a lead, they eat that up and if they
Speaker 2: got the lead, they'll extend the lead. If they're behind,
Speaker 2: they'll come and get the lead. And he comes back
Speaker 2: in the game, and shait did they did what to do?
Speaker 2: But think all the bitch shots that they hit down
Speaker 2: the stretch. McCain, Big three after big three, j Mitchell,
Speaker 2: the and one.
Speaker 1: It was just it was just too much for them
Speaker 1: to overcome.
Speaker 2: Joe, what did What did you like most about what
Speaker 2: you saw from the OKC thunder Because a lot of
Speaker 2: teams might with a panics say, look we got three
Speaker 2: in the back, let's go back home and close this
Speaker 2: thing out. But they say, nah, we want to go
Speaker 2: and finish this thing up the right way to do
Speaker 2: it tonight. Man, Listen, hey, as we all know, man,
Speaker 2: you know, champions prevailed.
Speaker 1: Bro, you know they found ways to win. I agree
Speaker 1: with you, uh.
Speaker 2: I think the aj Mitchell kid, I don't know where
Speaker 2: he came from, gp Ocho, I don't know where he.
Speaker 1: Came from, but he fit. He fit perfectly. You know.
Speaker 2: When I watch him play, it's more how decisive he
Speaker 2: is when he's out there, like he don't have no
Speaker 2: indecision on what it is he's trying to do.
Speaker 1: He get right to it.
Speaker 2: Bro. It's like, look, I know the game plan. Yeah
Speaker 2: we got j dub baut who's an All Star. Oh well,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna step right in fit. I fit like a glove.
Speaker 1: You feel me?
Speaker 2: And I think the Lakers played is as great as
Speaker 2: they can play. I mean, they had three guys with
Speaker 2: twenty and high efficiency. I'm like, damn, they may have
Speaker 2: a chance to win. But okay, see just got too much. Bro.
Speaker 2: They got closed, they got defenders, they played great team defense,
Speaker 2: and everybody on their team know they roll. Man.
Speaker 1: They're a true champion, true champion. Ojoe JP's going to
Speaker 1: take it away. What your talking? What did you see
Speaker 1: in this game?
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, well, well, you know what, Shannon, I think
Speaker 2: the turnovers beat him really tough. I mean, when they
Speaker 2: had when they got key stops, even though Oklahoma made
Speaker 2: big shots, even when they had had big time stops,
Speaker 2: they turned the basketball over on unnecessary situations. And against
Speaker 2: the basketball team like Oklahoma, you cannot turn the ball
Speaker 2: over because they're gonna capitalize because they are a great
Speaker 2: half court team, and that's what it was. I just
Speaker 2: thought they turned the ball over just even though even
Speaker 2: when at the end of the game when it was
Speaker 2: one seven to one, o nine, Lebron gets a big
Speaker 2: time stop, get a rebound, and he turns the basketball
Speaker 2: over him.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You can't do that.
Speaker 2: And then they come right back and then what they
Speaker 2: do They hit a three and five, So you can't
Speaker 2: you can't do that in this situation. I think the
Speaker 2: Lakers lost this game on their own. But you gotta
Speaker 2: understand Oklahoma City, they got eight deep. We haven't even
Speaker 2: talked about the boy Wallace. The boy Wallace is a
Speaker 2: key key agreeent to this too. The boy Mitchell comes up.
Speaker 2: But you go nine and ten deep on his Oklahoma
Speaker 2: team and the way they play aggressive.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's hard to beat this basketball team. Man.
Speaker 2: You're you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right, guys, and you
Speaker 2: think about it. Chat, I think Chat had maybe like
Speaker 2: two points, maybe four points without one quarter, and he
Speaker 2: ends up with like sixteen seventeen points. Uh, Shae with
Speaker 2: Shae started getting to the free throw line, hit big shots.
Speaker 2: But I just think the thing is is that it's
Speaker 2: just so hard because I know JJ wanted to play
Speaker 2: Kenard and Austin Reeves together, but the problem is is
Speaker 2: that they're gonna sit the pick and one of those
Speaker 2: guys is gonna have to start Shay one on one
Speaker 2: and he's gonna eat every single time.
Speaker 1: Go ahead or yeah, now, I won't tell you.
Speaker 3: Obviously, most of the people watching the game, especially you guys,
Speaker 3: you knew how the result would be. In order for
Speaker 3: the Lakers to win this game, UNC Joe and Gary
Speaker 3: and g P, the Lakers would have had to be perfect.
Speaker 3: They would have had to damn near be perfect. And
Speaker 3: obviously the turnovers that that was their achilles hells night. Obviously,
Speaker 3: defensively they got beat a few times. They had no
Speaker 3: answer for Mitchell. Hell, they had no answer for God
Speaker 3: Damn Shay as well. But obviously no one's had answer
Speaker 3: for Shay. But what what Mitchell has been able to
Speaker 3: do and and and and coming through and clutch moments
Speaker 3: and and and being a resurgence that that we that
Speaker 3: we didn't even see, you know before, Like this has
Speaker 3: been phenomenal. I thought, you know, for your sake, being
Speaker 3: that you went to the game and and I know
Speaker 3: it was a pretty penny I was hoping they could
Speaker 3: pull this game out. Uh it would have been a
Speaker 3: good one for you too to be able to watch them.
Speaker 3: But uh, it was unbelievable. It was unbelievable. I mean,
Speaker 3: goddamn Oklahoma City Thunder are so strong and really have
Speaker 3: no weaknesses offensively, defensively, in transition, on the glass, on
Speaker 3: the boy.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's really no answer to really.
Speaker 3: Stop these individuals, because not only are they not only
Speaker 3: just starting five daily, they can go to the bench
Speaker 3: and give you whatever you need when it starts when
Speaker 3: the starters are out as well.
Speaker 1: Listen, guys watching them mozos.
Speaker 2: Not one time that I ever think somebody took a
Speaker 2: bad shot. They get whatever they don't they don't. They
Speaker 2: don't take bad shots. They're never in a hurry. Yes,
Speaker 2: if they can get a chance to get out in transition,
Speaker 2: they get out in transition. But you know what it is.
Speaker 2: They're fast, but they're never in a hurry. But didn't
Speaker 2: understand what I'm saying. But you know what cha The
Speaker 2: reason that is is that Shane gets whatever he wants
Speaker 2: when he gets there. And once it's that mid range
Speaker 2: game going, a lot of people are now focused on him,
Speaker 2: and then the other guys just sit where they got
Speaker 2: to sit.
Speaker 1: You may see Chad, he always around the backs.
Speaker 2: They throw up lobs, they throw there, and then the
Speaker 2: other guys sit there in their comfort zone and just
Speaker 2: shoot their shots and make but buckets. And that's why
Speaker 2: they don't speed up, because he has the ball in control.
Speaker 2: I think sometime to get them out of their their situation,
Speaker 2: I think, you gotta you just gotta double double shank
Speaker 2: sometimes get the basketball out of his hand and then
Speaker 2: see what everybody else does. I would do that more
Speaker 2: to make it, understand it, because I can't beat them
Speaker 2: with him having thirty five and everybody else having something else.
Speaker 2: If I can get him to have fourteen sixteen and
Speaker 2: everybody else around has to have a big, big time game,
Speaker 2: and the Lakers couldn't do that because they don't have
Speaker 2: anybody to guard it.
Speaker 1: I would have doubled them. I just got the ball out.
Speaker 2: Of his hands because pressure ain't pretty well and he
Speaker 2: would have denied him the basketball.
Speaker 1: But they just didn't do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hey, I think when you think about it, when you
Speaker 2: look at the Lakers, Bro, it seemed like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: these guys shot high percentages from the field tonight. They
Speaker 2: I mean, it's probably the best game they play. But
Speaker 2: it seems it always seemed like it's hard for them
Speaker 2: to come by buckets.
Speaker 1: You know, they always gotta make tough shots.
Speaker 2: It seemed as soon as they make a tough shot, Hell,
Speaker 2: OKC come down and score so easy. Because Shay and
Speaker 2: Mitchell they great in isolation, Bro, They're great and using
Speaker 2: their body, They're great and using them bumps to create
Speaker 2: a little space just to get their jumpers off.
Speaker 1: They never had a rush, Bro.
Speaker 2: They have an understanding on the spots that they're trying
Speaker 2: to get to, and you can't stop them from getting
Speaker 2: them spots if you don't double team. Hell, this is
Speaker 2: what you're gonna have to deal with. And I just
Speaker 2: think the Lakers as great as they played the night. Hey,
Speaker 2: you get with eighteen from Jackson Hayes, you probably aint
Speaker 2: gonna never get that again.
Speaker 1: Six for eight.
Speaker 2: I thought it was perfect for him to win the game.
Speaker 2: But the last three minutes, the back and forth, Oh
Speaker 2: my god, you're talking about basketball at its highest level.
Speaker 2: But I knew they couldn't stop Okac. Bro, it don't matter,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Ar making tough buckets, Broun
Speaker 2: making tough buckets, and GP you spoke on another you
Speaker 2: know you spoke on another thing earlier. It's the damn
Speaker 2: curless ass turnos that they have lead to points. Bro,
Speaker 2: I'm talking about in crucial, crucial times of the game,
Speaker 2: under two minutes, three minutes. Man, you got to value
Speaker 2: the basketball against his OKC team because this is how
Speaker 2: this is how they thrive. You know, their defense creates offense. Hell,
Speaker 2: they already got great offensive guys. The defense creates offense too,
Speaker 2: too much of a juggernaut. Hell, we ain't think the
Speaker 2: Lakers gonna win this series, but we thought they and
Speaker 2: Joe you've seen it too, Oklahoma, Like you said, make shots,
Speaker 2: you know what, And they make crucial shots. And see
Speaker 2: you remember when Lebron went in there was fast and
Speaker 2: missing that little that little runner and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: He's got to go get into somebody's body and get
Speaker 2: the free throw line, you know, in a situation like that,
Speaker 2: get to his body, get a free throw again.
Speaker 1: See what happens.
Speaker 2: But you know, okay, See they go there, Shae gets
Speaker 2: in his bag and then next thing you know, he
Speaker 2: makes a.
Speaker 1: Great pass and it was great. Look what Chad did
Speaker 1: when he was down there. He pumped fake, pump fake,
Speaker 1: went up.
Speaker 2: Well, they thought he traveling and he dumped the basketball
Speaker 2: on a crucial time of the game, and they go
Speaker 2: up one. See that that's the difference between them two teams.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you and the thing else the GP you said,
Speaker 2: the problem that they had tonight that even when they
Speaker 2: doubled and got the ball out of Shae hands.
Speaker 1: Hey, Mitchell hit a three. Cain hit the three.
Speaker 2: And what they do is that they play high low
Speaker 2: with the big so they trapped Shape. He throws it to,
Speaker 2: he throws it at Hartenstein to Hartenstein, takes one driller,
Speaker 2: he throws the larva and here come Shape Amery down.
Speaker 2: So I thought they did you look, I was saying
Speaker 2: the same thing, get the ball out of Shade hands.
Speaker 2: But and you said let somebody else beat you. Well
Speaker 2: I be damn if Mitchell didn't do it.
Speaker 1: I and Kane Kane hit, but Cain hit a cup
Speaker 1: of three. I'm like, bro, he been sitting for like
Speaker 1: ten minutes. He just come out.
Speaker 2: He come up a pick and shoot it from twenty five.
Speaker 2: Yet some point in time, Yeah, Joe, GP, you know
Speaker 2: this guy, Oh Joe, you just tip your hat and said,
Speaker 2: man that that's just too good.
Speaker 1: That's just too good. Well, you know they gonna make shots.
Speaker 2: But like we say, I still have to let not
Speaker 2: have Shaye have thirty five.
Speaker 1: I can't do it. I gotta let them beat me
Speaker 1: another way. You know.
Speaker 2: The team that makes makes them do that is the
Speaker 2: san Antonio's First, they make them do that. San Antonio
Speaker 2: makes other people play and then that big boy over
Speaker 2: there blocking side. So hopefully if we see that series,
Speaker 2: I think it'll be a little different. I think they're
Speaker 2: gonna trap Shade a little bit more and then we'll
Speaker 2: see what happens, and that'll be a great series, you know,
Speaker 2: for me, you know, I would love to see that again.
Speaker 1: Hey, GP, hull up.
Speaker 2: Though I ain't think I didn't think Marcus Smart done
Speaker 2: a bad job in this series. Hell, the person, this
Speaker 2: is the first game he really got out on him.
Speaker 2: If just to be honest, I mean he shot fifteen
Speaker 2: free throws.
Speaker 1: He went twelve to fifteen from the line. But I'm
Speaker 1: like y'all, man.
Speaker 2: I think Shaye understood the moment and the way him
Speaker 2: and Mitchell play off each other. Bro, it's unbelievable to
Speaker 2: watch because you like, damn, we ain't even really know
Speaker 2: nothing about Mitchell until this year.
Speaker 1: If y'all just want to keep.
Speaker 2: It and for this team to sacrifice the way they do.
Speaker 2: Look at carus So, look at Isaiah, Joe, look at
Speaker 2: look at Wallace. Like those guys don't They never rushed
Speaker 2: the issue, bro. They play the right way. The system
Speaker 2: is great. And like you say, when Shad's not on
Speaker 2: the court, hell, you still can't. You still can't run away.
Speaker 2: And if you trap him on the pick and roll, Fellas,
Speaker 2: Hartenstein is too clever when it comes to distributing the ball,
Speaker 2: making plays. He ain't gonna do nothing that's gonna hurt you.
Speaker 2: So you trap and it goes to him. He got
Speaker 2: the high row with big Feller. He can spray out
Speaker 2: the three. You just got way too many options you
Speaker 2: can get up and his touch around the basket, it's impeccable.
Speaker 2: He has a nice little flow game hard and Stein.
Speaker 2: So I think, okayc is tough to beat, and you can't.
Speaker 2: You can't just take Shaye out, bro, They got too
Speaker 2: many ways.
Speaker 1: He ain't even got Williams. Yeah, that's what. Here's the
Speaker 1: fang though. Here's the thing though.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Mitchell only made three million dollars
Speaker 2: a year and they got him under contract for the
Speaker 2: next two years plus a club opher now and now,
Speaker 2: hey hey hey, I like Williams too, But y'all telling
Speaker 2: me Williams is that much better than this kid? Well, no,
Speaker 2: he ain't that much better. But he making two one
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty million. That's my point. But just think
Speaker 2: about it. But just think about it. If I take
Speaker 2: Mitchell three million and then I go get me, so
Speaker 2: I can go get I can get a lot of
Speaker 2: playoff for two plus GP and io. Yeah, but look,
Speaker 2: playing he is in. It's a playoff. This ain't no
Speaker 2: regular season game. Now he's doing this in the playoffs. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I agree. He doing He did a hell of a job.
Speaker 2: He did a hell of a number on the Lakers.
Speaker 2: But I think the tests will come if they have
Speaker 2: to play the Spurs, because he gonna have guys who
Speaker 2: are gonna be able to go off the dribber go
Speaker 2: at him, and guys who can defend. You know, Lakers,
Speaker 2: We already know Lakers ain't got no damn guards who
Speaker 2: can defend outside of Marcus Smart and he was doing
Speaker 2: a hell of a job against Shane. You're right, he
Speaker 2: can only guard one of them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And that's the problem that they got Joe. When you
Speaker 2: look at san Antonio, they can throw Champagne at him,
Speaker 2: they can throw a Sale at him, they can throw
Speaker 2: obviously castle at him. So they can throw a lot
Speaker 2: of different bodies at him, and so they don't necessarily
Speaker 2: have to trap. Because when you run and run your
Speaker 2: offense and you want to put Austin Reeves who can score,
Speaker 2: you want to put a guy that can face the
Speaker 2: floor and Luke Canard. The problem that you run in
Speaker 2: is that all they're gonna all he's gonna do is
Speaker 2: call for the pick whoever's guarden their guard. He gonna
Speaker 2: call for the pick. They're gonna come pick the sick.
Speaker 2: They're gonna come get the pick. And then guess what,
Speaker 2: they gotta deal with him one on one. And it's
Speaker 2: every time, and that's every time. And so I was saying,
Speaker 2: trap him and get the ball out of his hands.
Speaker 2: But he was making the right decisions. He was getting
Speaker 2: the ball out of him and the guys was knocking
Speaker 2: down shots. And that's when I say, you know what, Hey, guys,
Speaker 2: I done did everything I possibly could. I kicked him,
Speaker 2: I hit him. I called the cops on him, and
Speaker 2: they say, well, nothing.
Speaker 1: We can do. They say, nothing we can do.
Speaker 2: Hey, them nineteen turnover was just hurt oster Reeves had eight.
Speaker 2: He had eight by himself. I think Marcus Smart had
Speaker 2: Marcus Smart had six. I think Lebron had four. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's just far too many turn over. All right, guys,
Speaker 2: I'm at the hotel now, so I'm heading up to
Speaker 2: the room. I see you all about two minutes, all right,
Speaker 2: we'll catch you in the second. Hey, oh, Joe, yes,
Speaker 2: I talk to me. That was a hell of a game, though, bro,
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 3: It was Listen, Joe, I think there are a lot
Speaker 3: of people that were watching the game. Those are the
Speaker 3: fans fans of just NBA basketball in general. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think they were probably hoping that the Lakers could pull
Speaker 3: this off. I was I ain't gonna I think they
Speaker 3: were hoping that.
Speaker 1: Well chance, you know, they wanted to see another game.
Speaker 2: Man. They don't want everybody to be because that San
Speaker 2: Antonio Minnesota game. Minnesota series is gonna go get seventh, seventh,
Speaker 2: they gonna go seven. So it's gonna give Oklahoma too
Speaker 2: much rest man, and then we're gonna see what happened.
Speaker 2: I wanted to see if the Lakers go one more,
Speaker 2: it's go one more to make to make TV and
Speaker 2: make us see basketball. You know that we want to
Speaker 2: see Basis. Yeah, it's like with the Knicks up man,
Speaker 2: we didn't want to see them to him. Man, So
Speaker 2: here's good man. It's crazy that we see we got
Speaker 2: two sweeps, but the other two series is too too.
Speaker 2: I'm happy Detroit lost today so we can see them
Speaker 2: a little bit more.
Speaker 1: They gonna go go. They gonna go seven.
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, you think I'll hold up GP. You
Speaker 2: think Minnesota and the sperience one.
Speaker 1: I see.
Speaker 2: My thing is it's an even game. Hell and wind
Speaker 2: being out there, we just playing back up. But when
Speaker 2: Win be out there, GP, difference, it's different. It's because Joe,
Speaker 2: he changes shots, he do things. He's so big, he
Speaker 2: can handle the basketball. He just altering a lot of things, man,
Speaker 2: and he changes the game. But when he get out,
Speaker 2: everybody else is whatever. You know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 2: I mean it's whatever. And if he don't play forty
Speaker 2: four forty five minutes, they ain't gonna win. They're not
Speaker 2: gonna win. You see when he got kicked out the
Speaker 2: other night, they do nothing. Man, You know, no, it's
Speaker 2: it's it's it's a it's it's an even game when
Speaker 2: he when he's not out there. But when he is
Speaker 2: out there, I agree with you. He the cheek hole bro,
Speaker 2: because not only can he score, but he's a hell
Speaker 2: of a distributor. He get guys involved because he draws
Speaker 2: so much attention. And hell, all you gotta do is
Speaker 2: throw the ball toward the.
Speaker 1: Rim and he gonna go get it.
Speaker 2: Like it's just too much. He puts so much pressure
Speaker 2: on you. And even if he don't block your shot, GP. Hell,
Speaker 2: when you drive in there, he the first person you're
Speaker 2: thinking about, like, damn, hold on, can I get this
Speaker 2: off door. I need to just kick it out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: way at you know what I mean. So he always
Speaker 2: got you thinking, you know, when you when he's out
Speaker 2: there on the floor, and when he went out the
Speaker 2: other night, you see how the lane just opened up.
Speaker 2: Guys were just kind of getting what they wanted. You know,
Speaker 2: they were playing both teams playing small ball, and I
Speaker 2: felt like the advantage was for Minnesota because they got random.
Speaker 2: You know, Randal has to be that bull in the
Speaker 2: China Show. He got to continue to put his head
Speaker 2: down and make things happen. And I think, you know,
Speaker 2: Minnesota got a chance, but I don't know if they
Speaker 2: can win the series. I don't think they w a seriously, Joe,
Speaker 2: but I know that I think they're gonna beat them.
Speaker 1: They're gonna beat them in Minnesota in game six.
Speaker 2: I think, uh Santorio come out and probably try to
Speaker 2: destroy him in game five.
Speaker 1: So I shoot, man, we can get on a Sunday
Speaker 1: and see.
Speaker 2: TV, maybe see one of the hot Yeah, you know
Speaker 2: that would be good to see two game sevens man,
Speaker 2: to just see you go who can go to the
Speaker 2: to their conference final.
Speaker 1: That'll be great. Yeah, I think my bad Go ahead, O.
Speaker 3: Joe, now I won't say for some reason, I don't
Speaker 3: know why. Joe and and and I've been right with
Speaker 3: my basketball take so far in the playoffs, g I've
Speaker 3: been right about all my take so far right. But
Speaker 3: but I have a feeling I don't know why. As
Speaker 3: much of a difference as Winby makes when he's on
Speaker 3: their court, whether it's defensive or offensively, for some reason,
Speaker 3: I think Minnesota's gonna find a way. I don't know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying really the series, I do a g
Speaker 3: P g P. I don't know why Joe I had.
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
Speaker 3: Obviously, both of you played the game at a very
Speaker 3: high level that you know much more about the game
Speaker 3: than I do. The people in the chat are probably
Speaker 3: gonna laugh him and say, oh Joe, please, you don't
Speaker 3: know ball sit this one out. But for some reason
Speaker 3: GP and Joe, I have no id idea why. I
Speaker 3: just feel they're going to find a way to get
Speaker 3: it there.
Speaker 1: It's like last year a chat. They did it.
Speaker 2: Last year Man they got into the Western Conference final
Speaker 2: the same way. People didn't think if that boy, if
Speaker 2: that boy Edwards get hot or something like that, Ben Hey,
Speaker 2: it could happen because it's now and we didn't think
Speaker 2: it was gonna be like this now now, but able listen,
Speaker 2: listen GP. You know, man, he continued, he's getting healthy
Speaker 2: and healthy by the day. I think that's been the
Speaker 2: key thing because to start the series, you remember now
Speaker 2: he was coming off the bench, and by by game
Speaker 2: three when they got home, hell, he was starting. And
Speaker 2: he's been a whole totally different monster. But my thing is,
Speaker 2: when you think about it, Fellas will win be getting
Speaker 2: kicked out the other night. I know he pissed off
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 1: GP.
Speaker 2: You know, he probably gonna come out trying to prove
Speaker 2: a point. Uh uh uh uh, you know, put his
Speaker 2: stamp on the game.
Speaker 1: Hella early.
Speaker 2: So I think it's gonna be a tough I think
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a tough Game five for Minnesota, but
Speaker 2: obviously they've won on the road. They wanted Santel and
Speaker 2: san Antonio before. I think they can they make him
Speaker 2: do it again. But I think I think the Spurs
Speaker 2: is gonna be way too desperate, you know, to to
Speaker 2: be able to lose game not.
Speaker 1: This with Joe, Joe. They're gonna blow him out, Joe,
Speaker 1: I know, san Antonio him out. They blow him out
Speaker 1: in Santonio. Man, I tell you, yeah, Minnesota ain't gonna
Speaker 1: have a chance.
Speaker 2: But you know what, guys watching the game up close
Speaker 2: and to watch it because I've seen the Thunder play
Speaker 2: before and I've watched him before.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Bro, he is so methodical. He knows. He's like,
Speaker 1: I want to get here now.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you push me all over here, and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you if I gotta go look here.
Speaker 1: All I know is I'm going to California. Now.
Speaker 2: If I gotta go to New York and I gotta
Speaker 2: go to Massachusetts and come back down to drive down
Speaker 2: to Miami, cut through Georgia and Alabama, I only know
Speaker 2: all of that. But I'm gonna get to California and you.
Speaker 1: Cannot stop me. Bro, think about it.
Speaker 2: In that fourth quarner, the end one that he hit
Speaker 2: Mark Marcus Smart can't play it any better than that.
Speaker 2: He played it, beat him to the spot, he challenged
Speaker 2: the shot, he hit the shot, he filled it, and
Speaker 2: he made it. What do you do he get Jackson
Speaker 2: Hayes in a switch from three boom? J Mitchell? What
Speaker 2: do you do he get him in a switch boom?
Speaker 2: And no matter what, just and Mitchell bro he made
Speaker 2: some shots tonight. He made some shots tonight still because
Speaker 2: I was at that I was at that end where
Speaker 2: they h in the second half, so I can see.
Speaker 1: I'm like, ain't no way he gonna make How you
Speaker 1: make that with that angle? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And the guys around me like, man, how did he?
Speaker 2: Bro Hell, I'm asking my dad said, how he made that?
Speaker 1: Andy?
Speaker 2: Gord y'all? No, y'all go see this outfit again. I
Speaker 2: got had it over two hours to night. It's an
Speaker 2: l V and I'm wearing it the damn gain. So
Speaker 2: when you see Hey on the game, you're damn right,
Speaker 2: and I got it on again. So I'm just telling
Speaker 2: you now to your mind closed, because I'm gonna wear
Speaker 2: it again. Hey.
Speaker 1: I'm telling my a.
Speaker 3: I'm telling the man business man, get Hey, get your
Speaker 3: wears out of get your lin.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna taken.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take club, shut your episode in it tomorrow,
Speaker 2: so you're gonna see it the beginning of three weeks
Speaker 2: and you're gonna see it again out somewhere.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, wear that thing. It ain't gonna
Speaker 1: get my money worth out of this.
Speaker 2: You damn skippy A Fellas, Hey, when you look at it, uh, oh, Joe, GP.
Speaker 2: The great Ones, the great ones, Bro, they understand the moment.
Speaker 2: They know how to get to their spots. I don't
Speaker 2: give a damn what you do.
Speaker 1: Bro. You know they know how to manipulate the game. GP.
Speaker 2: You know this bro playing at the highest level winning titles. Hey,
Speaker 2: the great Ones aren't the great guards. They know how
Speaker 2: to manipulate the game to get to wherever they want
Speaker 2: to on the floor. Hey, if you don't trap him
Speaker 2: and get the ball out of his hands, he probably
Speaker 2: gonna make it. Hey, Joey, just like a Michael Jordan man,
Speaker 2: I played against that dude all my career. Man, he
Speaker 2: when it's time for him to play, they play. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, They go and get their money's worth.
Speaker 2: Whereas at he reminds me because of his mid range
Speaker 2: game as a young Damar Daroz. Hey, they right there
Speaker 2: in their mid game and they stay that way and
Speaker 2: he makes shots.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like I tell people, you cannot stop a score. You
Speaker 2: just got to contain him and hope that he have
Speaker 2: a bad game and then let everybody else hit him.
Speaker 2: But this Oklahoma team, they got too many weapons around him,
Speaker 2: and they may and it opens everything up, and then
Speaker 2: you can't you can't double him. You can't because if
Speaker 2: they making shots, you can't double him. And then you
Speaker 2: got a hope that somebody can guard him. And the
Speaker 2: Lakers didn't have nobody. Reeves and and Kanari can't guard him.
Speaker 2: You know, if they switch on they lunch, that's here. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they can't guard it. Think about how they started the game.
Speaker 2: Lou Dor hit three two bomb threes. So now you're like, well, damn,
Speaker 2: Caruso comes in, he makes three bomb threes, and so
Speaker 2: you say, well, damn if we trap him and they
Speaker 2: hitting shots. Mitchell Mitchell was twelve of eighteen. We've seen
Speaker 2: Mitchell play at a at a lead level.
Speaker 1: That look.
Speaker 2: Some of it is the Lakers because they can't defend.
Speaker 2: But I don't want to short change the guy, because
Speaker 2: the guy's been playing extremely well. He didn't make he
Speaker 2: didn't even make the playoff roster last year. Now this
Speaker 2: man looking like like hold on, I got team out
Speaker 2: there looking like hold on. Wait a minute, he he
Speaker 2: he need to be on our team doing that.
Speaker 1: He don't need to be on a bench.
Speaker 2: He don't need to be on okay, fees, bitch, he
Speaker 2: needs to be on our bitch.
Speaker 1: Started. He's good look and check.
Speaker 2: And those big guys they deter you because they everybody
Speaker 2: seven foot tall and you ain't getting anything easy because
Speaker 2: even when they just go straight up, you can't see
Speaker 2: the basket, no sub but they but they play well
Speaker 2: off because they're not a whole lot of teams the
Speaker 2: ain't able. What two teams them in Cleveland that really
Speaker 2: play two bigs in they starting lineup everybody, everybody, everybody
Speaker 2: else got a big and then everybody basically, you know,
Speaker 2: they got two legit bigs six six.
Speaker 1: Eleven, sixteen.
Speaker 2: Now granted, uh uh Allen, Jared Allen's only six nine,
Speaker 2: but he got a seat several five wings fan. But
Speaker 2: these guys, these two guys are legit seven foot tall.
Speaker 1: They play like that.
Speaker 2: And you watch this team. I watched them, watch the
Speaker 2: I watched the substitution patter. They're gonna keep a score
Speaker 2: on there. They're gonna have three, They're gonna have three
Speaker 2: defenders and a big. They're gonna keep a score, three
Speaker 2: defenders and a big. So if it's gonna be lou Dark,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be Wallace it's gonna be Caruso. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be some combination, and then you're gonna have shade and
Speaker 2: you're gonna have one of those big you have Hartenstein,
Speaker 2: or you're gonna have a check. So they're like so
Speaker 2: they can switch a lot of things. And those big
Speaker 2: guys move better than your think. They not slug They're
Speaker 2: not slugs. They're not nailed.
Speaker 1: To the floor.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, when you look at Hartenstein, he was a
Speaker 2: plus thirty tonight, Fellas, he was the highest plus minus night.
Speaker 2: The men only have five points, ten rebounds, five assists,
Speaker 2: three steals. He is such a pivotal part of what
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City does offensively and defensively, Like he plays hard
Speaker 2: as I don't know what, and then he's a great
Speaker 2: facilitator bro in getting other guys involved. I think, okay
Speaker 2: see got a great mixture.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I think everything is yet to be seen whether they can,
Speaker 2: you know, compete with the Spurs like this, because the
Speaker 2: Spurs are such a juggernaut and I think it'll be
Speaker 2: a hell of a series. But obviously they got to
Speaker 2: get out of that series against the t Wolves. But
Speaker 2: okay se got everything you need, bro, from scores to
Speaker 2: hard workers, great teammates. I think from top to bottom,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be hard to beat these boys. But Joe,
Speaker 2: the thing that they got them over everybody's all ten
Speaker 2: of them dudes come in in, they play D, they
Speaker 2: play on and you know what I'm saying, and they
Speaker 2: don't let off, so you don't have to get a
Speaker 2: let off for somebody's seve for somebody. So that's why
Speaker 2: it's so hard to beat this team. But I think
Speaker 2: that that Spurs team matchup with them very very well
Speaker 2: athletically wise.
Speaker 1: Because they got defenders off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got defenders too, and you remember that they won,
Speaker 2: they won for to one and.
Speaker 1: In the regular receiver, but.
Speaker 2: They make the regular season. Now this is playoffs, so
Speaker 2: we got to see what happens. But I still think
Speaker 2: that'll be a good match up because I think both
Speaker 2: of them teams are gonna play D and both of
Speaker 2: them got on. All of them got dogs and everybody
Speaker 2: got people coming off STUPI off. They both got dogs.
Speaker 2: So I think this to me, the game time three,
Speaker 2: the guy that has the highest field goal, the highest
Speaker 2: three point percentage in playoff history, the guy that's leading
Speaker 2: the Lakers in threes, Why the hell was he on
Speaker 2: the court.
Speaker 1: I need GP. You played Joe.
Speaker 2: You played Joe, You at all guard GP, and you
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame got Olympic gold member. I
Speaker 2: need you to explain O Joe is the equivalent of
Speaker 2: your best wide receiver if the same thing would happen
Speaker 2: and you. I don't know if you guys remember y'all
Speaker 2: remember USC played Texas and they have a fourth and
Speaker 2: one that Regigebush ain't on the field, the guy that
Speaker 2: won the Howian Trophy, he ain't on the field. We
Speaker 2: got a big a fourth die situation and the what
Speaker 2: y'all tell y'all throwing the ball and oh, you ain't
Speaker 2: on the field. What the hell are we doing? Well,
Speaker 2: you're the best three point shooter? Well, Shannon, you know
Speaker 2: what that that was called. I think JJ really went
Speaker 2: off through defensive end because he thought that Canard couldn't
Speaker 2: guard anybody. Oh, he didn't want to switch up because
Speaker 2: they were getting in the picking roll and they was
Speaker 2: keeping Canard in the pick and roll and a guy
Speaker 2: in the picking roll Canard something special happened, so he
Speaker 2: couldn't guard nobody. So he said, man, if I could
Speaker 2: stop him, I can go down there. And score with
Speaker 2: Reeves and them like that, and I think that's what
Speaker 2: his decision was made, you know, for defense and set
Speaker 2: of offense. And it probably wasn't a good good a
Speaker 2: good choice, but that's just the way it goes.
Speaker 1: Man, That's what I thought. He thought.
Speaker 2: Gph, Joe, you get the rebound, you get to stop.
Speaker 2: I'm taking the time out because I want the best
Speaker 2: I want the best three point shooter in the game
Speaker 2: in the game.
Speaker 1: I gotta think about something. He hit a four.
Speaker 2: Point play to tie the game up. He hit big
Speaker 2: shot after big shot after big shot. He's been hitting
Speaker 2: big shots if you look at it the four games.
Speaker 2: He's been that most consistent offensive player, no question. I
Speaker 2: gotta get him in the game, guys. And I understand
Speaker 2: what you're saying. It's like, okay, defense, Okay, we've done
Speaker 2: what we're supposed to do. And I know you don't
Speaker 2: want to burn your time out, but I got to
Speaker 2: have him on the court. I just got him. Yeah, Hey, look,
Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying. I think I think due
Speaker 2: to timing and the set that they ran where Austin
Speaker 2: Reeves kind of came up and got the ball. I
Speaker 2: don't think they wanted. Okay, see the file, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, which is why I think, uh ar
Speaker 2: kind of you know, he probably should have shot as
Speaker 2: soon as he caught it, but he took an extra
Speaker 2: dribble to try to get a little closer. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I get it. You know, uh really probably should have
Speaker 2: been in the game. And you're right, he been the
Speaker 2: most consistent guy, you know, from an offensive standpoint.
Speaker 1: I mean, hell, he shot the lights out this whole
Speaker 1: entire series.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he played great off run and aar.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like you man, I'm watching him like, damn,
Speaker 2: big shot after big shot, you know, just just staying engaged.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: I thought they played well enough to win offensively, and
Speaker 2: they just can't stop.
Speaker 1: No, damn, by the hell, we knew that can't.
Speaker 2: Like you said, if I first of all, if I
Speaker 2: got a if I got a back, if my offense
Speaker 2: is pedestrian, the last thing I can do is turn
Speaker 2: the ball over because it's so hard I have to
Speaker 2: expend so much energy GP to get back into the
Speaker 2: ball game that by the time I get back, I
Speaker 2: get even when it's two three minutes left, I'm out
Speaker 2: of gas.
Speaker 1: And then Shannon it's unnecessary turnovers. It's throwing the ball away.
Speaker 1: Man just throwing it up there, and they tipping the ball.
Speaker 2: One time, Smart just turned around and threw the ball
Speaker 2: and it was inner severance.
Speaker 1: Wasn't nobody even there at that?
Speaker 2: Yes, I said, what are you doing? I'm right there,
Speaker 2: I know what to play. And Austin Reeves trying to throw,
Speaker 2: trying to feed, tried to feed through it from half
Speaker 2: half court and he.
Speaker 1: Threw the ball underneath underneath.
Speaker 2: I'm like, and then you remember, and then you remember
Speaker 2: Smart did it again, and they get it and came back.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying that them turnovers right there
Speaker 2: is costly, especially when Lebron's turnover with only a minute
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 1: Man, it was a minute.
Speaker 2: And now you can because at that point in time,
Speaker 2: what were it down? It was only down two, one
Speaker 2: o seven, one on nine. They can come down there
Speaker 2: and put pressure on them. But they came right back.
Speaker 2: And then you remember they hit a three and they
Speaker 2: went a five. Yeap, Listen, they playing too many damn minutes,
Speaker 2: fellas them dudes tired. Man Ry played forty, Bron played
Speaker 2: forty minutes, Ruy played, He played, Ruy played forty three.
Speaker 2: I mean he's trying to give bron The problem is
Speaker 2: is that he's trying to give Braun a minute here, Okay,
Speaker 2: time out there, so we'll give you a minute. They're
Speaker 2: gonna take a time out so that I'll.
Speaker 1: Give you extra. But he was exhausted. He was exhausted. Hey.
Speaker 2: And the thing is, look, your recovery. I don't care
Speaker 2: what anybody tell you. And you start to get older,
Speaker 2: your recovery ain't what it was was GP absolutely, you
Speaker 2: know what, Shannon, Shoot, when you get in the forties, man,
Speaker 2: your body you gonna go, oh, let down, man, and
Speaker 2: that stuff gonna be hurting for like seven Hey. You
Speaker 2: know back of the hey, back of the day, you like, hey,
Speaker 2: hard baby, let me came my breath. Now I hate
Speaker 2: what I used to be. He Hey, many, let's class
Speaker 2: of water five to bed, get hot.
Speaker 1: I go dright now. It takes me eight seven days
Speaker 1: and get back.
Speaker 2: You gotta think about that, dad, and you would you're
Speaker 2: playing against people bodies now and exactly what you think
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen. Marcus Smart has six turnovers five five
Speaker 2: two buckets and what it reads out I mean, I
Speaker 2: mean turnovers reds Reeves had eight.
Speaker 1: I knew it. I knew it eight.
Speaker 2: Reeves had eight, Marcus Smart had four, I mean had six,
Speaker 2: and Broad had four and Jackson Hayes had one. Damn,
Speaker 2: it's hard to win, man. You get nineteen turnovers, bro
Speaker 2: in a game like this here, you're gonna lose, bro
Speaker 2: because Okay, see they don't turn the ball over like that.
Speaker 2: They had eleven to night, but they normally don't turn
Speaker 2: the ball over. Joe, they had nineteen turnovers within four players.
Speaker 2: That's that's the problem, dame. You you ain't never heard
Speaker 2: of that, nine nineteen turnovers saying four players.
Speaker 1: Come on, that's insane. You can't do that, Mitchell. The
Speaker 1: night was sensational again.
Speaker 2: Twenty eight points, four assists, four steals on twelve of
Speaker 2: eighteen shooting. He's averaging twenty three points and six assists
Speaker 2: this series.
Speaker 1: This series, This series is over now. Damn it was
Speaker 1: that series. Okay, that series ain't if that? You're right?
Speaker 2: Gv uh and check what if I told you the
Speaker 2: Lakers would attempt more free throws than the thunder and
Speaker 2: they still lose. And that's because Ron averaged twenty three points.
Speaker 2: He led the Lakers, and he led the Lakers and
Speaker 2: points and assists. Hell, I'm not so sure he didn't
Speaker 2: leave both teams in points some assists as look that up.
Speaker 2: He averaged twenty three points, almost seven rebounds, seven assists
Speaker 2: at forty one now and forty one and forty one
Speaker 2: Now that's something else.
Speaker 1: Boy.
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't know what he's doing, but he keep
Speaker 2: on doing it. If you're gonna keep doing that, they
Speaker 2: keeping keep doing that level GP Hainte looking here, man,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't quit neither man to get that man, get
Speaker 2: me some more that cheese man, because if they gonna
Speaker 2: give me that paper man and I can kill these
Speaker 2: young little youngsters like this, I keep doing it too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he a GP.
Speaker 2: You know he playing from the shoulder up while the
Speaker 2: young boy playing from the web down. Yeah, like he playing.
Speaker 2: He playing a totally different game from these casts.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: He he'd have stood the test of time. Hell over
Speaker 2: two two and a half decades. Like man, he he
Speaker 2: has an understanding of the game and how to be
Speaker 2: effective and how to use these guys around. And think, now,
Speaker 2: if they had if they had Lucas just different what
Speaker 2: because they're gonna have to double Luca. Yeah, I gotta
Speaker 2: do it. I was just gonna say that they missing him.
Speaker 2: Shayning Man, he was three points. He would have gave
Speaker 2: you thirty, man, and they would have been a little
Speaker 2: bit more different series, I think, because he would have
Speaker 2: been making shots.
Speaker 1: See, he would have been making shot maker. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: is a shot maker.
Speaker 2: So that they missed him, and then and then they
Speaker 2: that one, that that ball the way they play at
Speaker 2: offense and give it to Lebron right there on the block.
Speaker 2: And then Oklahoma is just too strong right there. Man,
Speaker 2: They gonna they gonna clog it up. They're gonna go
Speaker 2: after everything, and you can't just do that, especially if
Speaker 2: they ain't making shots.
Speaker 1: And I'm stilling with you trying. I would have kept.
Speaker 2: Canard on the floor all day because I would have
Speaker 2: kicked it to him and let him make shots.
Speaker 1: Just keep making shots.
Speaker 2: The thing I think the thing is is that when
Speaker 2: you look at it, is that because of the and
Speaker 2: you said earlier GP, because of the defensive prowess, because
Speaker 2: whoever he's guarding, she's gonna call to come get the
Speaker 2: pick yep. Yeah yeah, and whoever Austin Reeves is guarden.
Speaker 2: But when you think about it, that's what teams do
Speaker 2: to Luca. Whoever Luca's guarding. Yeah, he called and get
Speaker 2: the pick. Yeah, that's been that, that's been. That's been
Speaker 2: the mo. When you do to get dealing dealing with Luca,
Speaker 2: make him play defense, yeap defense, because you not finna
Speaker 2: stop him unless you get the ball out of his hand.
Speaker 2: One guy ain't stopping Luca. I don't give it. Damn
Speaker 2: who the defend is? You're right?
Speaker 1: So you want to wear him, absolutely, you want to
Speaker 1: wear it down.
Speaker 2: You know, you think you think you're gonna just rest
Speaker 2: on You wanna rest on defense while you go. Hell now,
Speaker 2: we're gonna make your hands work on defense just as
Speaker 2: hard as you're working on offense. The only thing wrong
Speaker 2: with that, though, your guys, Shannon, Joe, he gonna get
Speaker 2: the ball back in his hand. He gonna go go
Speaker 2: go get you know what I'm saying, ain't gonna do that. See,
Speaker 2: he gonna go get it. So he gonna give you
Speaker 2: thirty to forty, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's what it is. Gonna worry about him in
Speaker 1: the defensive side. Mm hmm. Hey.
Speaker 2: So if you the Lakers, though, what you do now?
Speaker 2: Where you at now? Fellas home I'm saying, but I
Speaker 2: think I think they gotta go get me. They gotta
Speaker 2: go get a point guard. They gotta see what they're
Speaker 2: gonna do with with Lebron, Get Luca Healthy. I would
Speaker 2: keep Canard and Rivers and then you just gotta build
Speaker 2: from there. But they gotta go get somebody can play defense.
Speaker 2: I think they gotta wings the defense. This is what
Speaker 2: this NBA is about right now. Six seven, six' six
Speaker 2: guys who can do, it you, know like like The
Speaker 2: johnson brothers from From detroit and what you Call Thompson
Speaker 2: THOMPSON'S i mean The thompson brothers and once from here From.
Speaker 1: Oakley them two dudes can.
Speaker 2: Defit you gotta get players like that to come on
Speaker 2: your team to, help and that's what it's gotta. Be
Speaker 2: AND i think The lakers gotta do. That they gotta
Speaker 2: make moves and then that's WHAT i think they gotta.
Speaker 2: DO i, LOOK i think off The, REEVES i mean
Speaker 2: to watch, him to watch the maturation that he's gone
Speaker 2: through as an undrafted free agent to average seven, points
Speaker 2: the average twelve, points the average eighteen, points to average
Speaker 2: twenty three. Points but the, guys if you put him
Speaker 2: And luca in the back. Court the one thing The west.
Speaker 1: Have is that they have.
Speaker 2: Guards you look at, you look at, you look At,
Speaker 2: book you look At, murray you look At, castle you
Speaker 2: look At, shae you look at all everybody in The.
Speaker 2: West what do they have? Guards what can The lakers defend?
Speaker 2: Guard and they had damn say, god you forgot about
Speaker 2: you forgot The, clippers The, warriors all of.
Speaker 1: Guards that's what they got AND gp that is their.
Speaker 2: Problem they can't defend the guard because they come to
Speaker 2: w u s every time they try to trap shape,
Speaker 2: shavee find the open.
Speaker 1: Guy they knocked the shot.
Speaker 2: Down like, credit, guys gotta knock the shot down and
Speaker 2: you gotta roll the. Dice but at some point in,
Speaker 2: time you're, like, look we gotta we gotta play.
Speaker 1: You we gotta play you straight. Up we gotta play
Speaker 1: it straight.
Speaker 2: Up and with the exception Of Marcus, smart he's the
Speaker 2: only one that can play really on the wing straight.
Speaker 1: Up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey and when you think about, it The lakers
Speaker 2: know them dudes can't guard fella. Hell what they gotta
Speaker 2: do is they offense has to be their. DEFENSE i,
Speaker 2: mean that's how they gonna Have that's how they have
Speaker 2: to offset. It that's why you Got lucas scoring thirty
Speaker 2: three at. Night, hell you can deal with him not
Speaker 2: being a being a hell of a. Defendive you're gonna
Speaker 2: give me thirty three at. Night, Here we'll have to
Speaker 2: live with the results that we get. Defensively AND i
Speaker 2: think they know that it's just to play against THIS okc.
Speaker 1: Team. Bro without, him you have no, chance, no not at.
Speaker 2: All you know, This, Okay, see like we, said so
Speaker 2: they so, deep you know What i'm. Saying so you
Speaker 2: can't make mistakes against them and think that they and
Speaker 2: like What shannon said, earlier.
Speaker 1: They play at their. Pace they do.
Speaker 2: Not let you speed them. Up they'll let you do.
Speaker 2: Nothing and once he do, that and they get you
Speaker 2: in the bag and they start hitting in them, dudes
Speaker 2: making them. Shots it's too. Hard and then them too,
Speaker 2: big too. Big them two twin towers are playing very very.
Speaker 2: Well they just playing very very well together and they
Speaker 2: and they play together and they get it.
Speaker 1: Done so it's just hard to beat. Them you can't make.
Speaker 2: Mistakes and like we, said like you, Said, seanne they,
Speaker 2: KNEW i, Mean, chad you knew they couldn't. Come and
Speaker 2: The lakers couldn't come in there and make the. Mistakes
Speaker 2: they couldn't make. Mistakes they had to play a perfect
Speaker 2: game for them to win the basketball, game and they.
Speaker 2: Didn't if you think about, it the question is now
Speaker 2: The lakers seasons is.
Speaker 1: Over, now it'll just start.
Speaker 2: Now this is something that upper management had to been
Speaker 2: thinking about for a period of, time because no matter,
Speaker 2: what whether you went out in the first, round the second,
Speaker 2: round or you won THE Nba, finals there's gonna come
Speaker 2: a time that you're gonna have to make some. Decisions
Speaker 2: Lebron james is not under. Contract Austin reeves is gonna
Speaker 2: want max. Money what we're, doing is this the last
Speaker 2: time we See lebron in The lakers? Uniform GP, Io
Speaker 2: you know, WHAT i don't think. SO i think they're
Speaker 2: gonna probably give him a one year deal for about
Speaker 2: thirty thirty five, million do it like, that and then
Speaker 2: Get Austin reeves and do. It they're gonna restructure. HIM
Speaker 2: i don't Think lebron wants to leave, anyway Neither. Shannon
Speaker 2: he's too comfortable IN la right. Now his family is
Speaker 2: comfortable with. That he's not gonna go anywhere if he.
Speaker 2: Does the only PERSON i think he would play with
Speaker 2: right now Is Steph. Curry it's the only PLAYER i
Speaker 2: think he went. With he'll he'll come down here To Golden.
Speaker 2: State they'll do, something make some, moves but that's the
Speaker 2: only THING i think he'll. Do he'll be cold so
Speaker 2: he can be. Close think he's not going he ain't
Speaker 2: going back To. Cleveland he ain't doing none of. That
Speaker 2: BUT i think The lakers are gonna sign him. BACK
Speaker 2: i really really do think. So AND i think he's
Speaker 2: gonna get a a two year deal or something with
Speaker 2: him having an option in his second, year and then
Speaker 2: they'll go from, there and then they're gonna have to
Speaker 2: refamp the.
Speaker 3: TEAM i don't know a Uncle joe AND gp we
Speaker 3: just talked about this the other, night and the first
Speaker 3: THING i, Said lebron always wanted to play play with Sta, Hey,
Speaker 3: Oh lebron always wanted to play With. Stephan Steve kurse
Speaker 3: signed a two year, deal obviously to remain the head.
Speaker 3: Coach steph is still there for two more years In
Speaker 3: lebron now with this opportunity The lakers not extending, him
Speaker 3: the fact that it didn't extend, him you, know before
Speaker 3: knowing that his deal would be up with the end
Speaker 3: of the. YEAR i don't think he's going. BACK i
Speaker 3: think he's going to take this time to fulfill one
Speaker 3: of the dreams that he's always had outside of playing
Speaker 3: With Stephan, olympics playing With steph in a regular season,
Speaker 3: game you, know wearing the same jersey on the same.
Speaker 2: Team, hey, listen when you think about, IT i understand
Speaker 2: what GP's. SAYING i hear, you O, cho but we
Speaker 2: we Know lebron to do something a little. Different, man
Speaker 2: he he, Normally, hey he'll go against the. Grain, now you,
Speaker 2: KNOW i think he's going to assess everything that's going
Speaker 2: to happen in this. Postseason AND i, think if you're asking,
Speaker 2: ME i THINK i don't think he'll mind getting out
Speaker 2: The Western.
Speaker 1: Conference.
Speaker 2: NOW i don't know if he's going back To, cleveland
Speaker 2: BUT i just THINK i can see him making the
Speaker 2: move BECAUSE i think he always gonna have his. Place,
Speaker 2: obviously he's probably still building have his place IN la and,
Speaker 2: hell he's gonna be able to the money he make
Speaker 2: off the. Court you, know he always gonna be. Good
Speaker 2: BUT i can see, him, MAN i can see him.
Speaker 2: COME i can see him leaving The. LAKERS i can
Speaker 2: see him coming somewhere out, east you know the kind
Speaker 2: of lighting that load a little.
Speaker 1: Bit, yeah, Yeah. JOE i really think he's gonna stay. West.
Speaker 2: Joe you know he built that big old. House, man
Speaker 2: he doesn't spend so much money over. There, man the
Speaker 2: kids is loving, it and his wife. THERE i don't
Speaker 2: think he's gonna come to The, east because that's gonna
Speaker 2: be a little told for them to go back and.
Speaker 2: Forth LIKE i, SAID i Think, chad it's a good
Speaker 2: shot he comes To god he could go. To if he,
Speaker 2: leaves he going To Golden. State i'm telling you he
Speaker 2: coming To Golden state if he. Leaves and but if he,
Speaker 2: don't AND i don't Think jennie Bugs bus gonna let him.
Speaker 2: GO i don't think she's gonna let him get, nowhere you,
Speaker 2: know because you know she's still run that thing for
Speaker 2: a little bit until for like the late next what
Speaker 2: seven eight years.
Speaker 1: And she got five, years got five.
Speaker 2: Years so she can run in it. Still and she
Speaker 2: not gonna let him go. NOWHERE i Think Harry hem
Speaker 2: And luca they'll be, okay that's a.
Speaker 1: Drawn they sell out everywhere they.
Speaker 2: Go, Yeah AND i don't THINK i don't think he
Speaker 2: wants to he. Wants he don't want to get that.
Speaker 2: Up you, know he got all the movie deals and
Speaker 2: stuff In. La it's always sunny, there keeps his body.
Speaker 1: Right he ain't. COMING i don't think he comes to the.
Speaker 1: Cold you, KNOW i don't think you're gonna go that Cot.
Speaker 2: Lebron. James he just finished his eighth. Season his first,
Speaker 2: year he missed the playoffs. Entirely next year he won the.
Speaker 2: Championship second year of the third, year he was eliminated
Speaker 2: in the first.
Speaker 1: ROUND. Uh the next, year he missed the.
Speaker 2: Playoffs then he got swept in the conference, finals lost
Speaker 2: in the first, round eliminated in the first, round swept
Speaker 2: in the second. Round one championship on a three playoff series.
Speaker 2: Win since the. Bubble what grade were giving? HIM i
Speaker 2: give him A c, plus that's WHAT. Gp that's WHAT
Speaker 2: i would go. PLUS i gave him an. Average he's
Speaker 2: doing what he got to do with with this team
Speaker 2: that he's having the stuff that he's, having you know
Speaker 2: What i'm, Saying and you're getting older and things is.
Speaker 1: Happening he you, know he's been put with players that
Speaker 1: is and all.
Speaker 2: That BUT i gotta give him A c. Plus i'll
Speaker 2: give him A c plus on my on my, end
Speaker 2: damn y'all give him A c. PLUS i give him
Speaker 2: A b, man considering the fact of what he had
Speaker 2: to deal with when he first got when he first
Speaker 2: got to L. A, obviously him winning that, title a
Speaker 2: lot of people put an astrobay because it was in the,
Speaker 2: Bubble but damn, man he's kept he's kept The lakers
Speaker 2: afloat bro like he's he's kept them. RELEVANT i would
Speaker 2: say The, lakers everybody gonna always pay attention to. Him
Speaker 2: BUT i think combining his brand with That laker, MAN
Speaker 2: i just THINK i think he's done more than what
Speaker 2: people really give.
Speaker 1: Him, look he got me, bad look BECAUSE A d stay.
Speaker 2: Healthy, yeah And, joe we not really saying about what he's.
Speaker 2: DONE i think what What shannon was saying is about
Speaker 2: the team and they pro of what they were doing
Speaker 2: because when he gets out of the first, round then
Speaker 2: he gets swept this round every. Championship we're not saying
Speaker 2: What lebron, did Because lebron is doing. Work he just
Speaker 2: averaged twenty three in this, one twenty, three seven and,
Speaker 2: seven so he not at forty one years, old so
Speaker 2: he not doing. It but we're talking about the progress
Speaker 2: of moving. On you know What i'm, Saying being in
Speaker 2: the second, round being in a conference, final cup final
Speaker 2: once after he won the, championship you know, what and
Speaker 2: then he was in the first, round didn't make.
Speaker 1: It then this guy.
Speaker 2: Swept so that's on the organization to me to put
Speaker 2: a team out there that can.
Speaker 1: Do, it you know What i'm. Saying and what you, Say,
Speaker 1: shannon some of them players ain't showed up.
Speaker 2: Man and the thing, is the question is how many
Speaker 2: times did he lose a series where he was the
Speaker 2: favorite most of the time he was starting the series
Speaker 2: on the.
Speaker 1: Road he wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Fake but BUT i know somebody gonna, say, well if
Speaker 2: it was another, player that he would have beat the.
Speaker 2: Thunder y'all already know that he'd beat The. Thunders but
Speaker 2: WHEN i look at it and And i'm, like, okay
Speaker 2: how many playoff series did he lose where he was the?
Speaker 2: Favorite and all these guys that y'all, said, well look
Speaker 2: at the young talent that they. Had how that young
Speaker 2: talent doing? Elsewhere not that good man that good.
Speaker 1: Because they told, It they told us That kuzma was
Speaker 1: gonna be the.
Speaker 2: Guy kuzman done been the two, Stops, Oh, washington he
Speaker 2: gonna be the guy In washington. Now he And milwaukee
Speaker 2: scoring four points a. Game so when you look at
Speaker 2: when you look at, it AND i thought a D
Speaker 2: ad couldn't stay. Healthy but they but, That but that's
Speaker 2: been ADM ad hadn't BEEN ad hadn't been able to stay,
Speaker 2: healthy and SO i would have liked to see HIM
Speaker 2: ad could have stayed.
Speaker 1: Healthy but it is what it.
Speaker 2: Is you remember that at this. Junction, NOW, gp you know.
Speaker 2: It you get, older and this is WHAT i always.
Speaker 2: Say when you are a great, player as you get,
Speaker 2: older they don't compare you to other great. Players they
Speaker 2: compare you to a younger. Self see A. Gp you get,
Speaker 2: older they're, like, MAN gp can't he can't be the.
Speaker 2: Glove now we gotta start calling the. Mint, ye how
Speaker 2: you gotta, look it's looseness at the.
Speaker 1: Glove, man it is now the preparing.
Speaker 2: Him they COMPARE gp when he got thirty, two thirty
Speaker 2: three to THE gp that was twenty, one twenty. Two
Speaker 2: what the hell a y'all? Doing that's, true that's, true
Speaker 2: that is that's definitely. True and you can't compare him to.
Speaker 1: When he was. Young, man you get older.
Speaker 2: Man BUT i still love it the way he's doing
Speaker 2: it because he's still saying a relevant he still asks twenty,
Speaker 2: three twenty four. Points you, know some players would dip,
Speaker 2: down but it's like he's still on the. Floor he,
Speaker 2: shit he played what forty minutes? Tonight man at fort
Speaker 2: at forty at forty, one, Man so people can't can't compare.
Speaker 2: It that's WHY i, said you can't compare generations and
Speaker 2: people who didn't play with, people because that is not
Speaker 2: is not thinking. Sensible AND i get. It, yeah he's
Speaker 2: not thinking.
Speaker 1: Sensible he's not a twenty one year Old Lebron.
Speaker 2: James, no he's not that Don, hey he ain't no
Speaker 2: twenty One. Lebron but at forty, one we never seen
Speaker 2: nobody play with this much. Consistency Bro for to have
Speaker 2: this longevity in the, game he superseded expectations from the
Speaker 2: time he walked in through the. Door, LIKE i, MEAN
Speaker 2: i think the guy is, special. MAN i Mean i've
Speaker 2: had a you, know hell of a time competing against,
Speaker 2: him man watching him. PLAY i hope he continues to,
Speaker 2: play especially at this high. Level BUT i thought we
Speaker 2: were a bit cheated obviously not getting a chance.
Speaker 1: To Have luke out there for them to be full.
Speaker 2: Strength but, hell when you think about, it, yeah they
Speaker 2: were underdogs in The houston, series If, Katie, yeah.
Speaker 1: You know WHAT i. Mean nobody had them beating The,
Speaker 1: ROCKIES i. Think and plus the other thing is is that.
Speaker 2: He averaged twenty, three seven and seven against probably a top,
Speaker 2: two top three defensive team in the. League everybody don't
Speaker 2: play defense like, okay see imagine number, one number, One,
Speaker 2: okay them the number one defensive. Team everybody in THE
Speaker 2: nba doesn't play defense like. That he averaged twenty. Seven
Speaker 2: he averaged twenty, points seven, rebounds seven assists as the third.
Speaker 2: Option what third option you know can give you numbers like?
Speaker 1: That not too, many not too many, Now and you
Speaker 1: saw When uga goes.
Speaker 2: Down aar was out a little, while but he's, LIKE
Speaker 2: i got it getting to the, Playoffs aar Miss he's
Speaker 2: still doing what he.
Speaker 1: Did, yeah but then.
Speaker 2: Remember when they both was. Out he carried them in
Speaker 2: the last part of the. Season they won the twelve
Speaker 2: out of fourteen. Games you remember that to move up
Speaker 2: to the number four, spot you know What i'm. Saying
Speaker 2: and he was Killing he was actually like thirty ten
Speaker 2: and twelve or something like, that and it was amazing
Speaker 2: to see a guy like that worked like that every
Speaker 2: night for like fifteen games in a. Row, Hey AND
Speaker 2: i think he cherished that moment, too because you, know
Speaker 2: he started a season, late, obviously missing what the first
Speaker 2: fifteen to seventeen games of the, season and The lakers
Speaker 2: were playing so great that he didn't want to be.
Speaker 2: Disruptive he just came in and he was A swiss
Speaker 2: army knife and he played that all the way through
Speaker 2: the season until them boys got hurt and went, down
Speaker 2: and then he stepped up and kind of, showed, LOOK
Speaker 2: i could still be the primary, option you, know, score,
Speaker 2: pass get, guys and be the guy Who i've always.
Speaker 2: Been you, KNOW i just think when you get into a,
Speaker 2: series a playoff SERIES, gp you know this bro were
Speaker 2: trying to expose. It were trying to expose. You whatever
Speaker 2: your weakness, is that's what we're trying to. Expose AND i, Think,
Speaker 2: Okay c's just done a great job of just being
Speaker 2: relentless throughout the whole entire game with their pressure and
Speaker 2: at some, point you, know you'll you'll have a tendency
Speaker 2: to fold And lakers normally it was the the third.
Speaker 2: Quarters BUT i thought, today, man they played a well.
Speaker 2: Game they stayed within. Reach it's just, okay see got. Closed, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah and that's the that's the. Difference and you, know
Speaker 2: AND gpr and, GUYS i was, thinking if you Put
Speaker 2: Lebron james on a bad team and, say though you're
Speaker 2: the number one, option he still could give you twenty
Speaker 2: seven to twenty eight points a.
Speaker 1: Night he haveage, thirty you have thirty in this. League
Speaker 1: he averaged thirty on the bad.
Speaker 2: Team you put him On sacramento right, now you have
Speaker 2: a thirty easily easily half. Thirty because in the, postseason
Speaker 2: because think about, It lebron was like tops and fast.
Speaker 1: Breakpoints in the post, seeds you'll get a whole lot of.
Speaker 2: Runouts you gotta get all your point you gotta get
Speaker 2: a lot of your points in the half court. Set,
Speaker 2: yeah because the team's value you the, ball, well most
Speaker 2: teams value the. Ball, clearly The lakers didn't value the
Speaker 2: ball this playoff seid because, hell.
Speaker 1: They had nineteen to, night they had.
Speaker 2: Twenty they had twenty something the other, night and that's
Speaker 2: why the game got so. Lopsided but they played because
Speaker 2: normally the third quarter is where they lose the ball.
Speaker 2: Game BUT i thought they. Played they outscored, them what
Speaker 2: thirty nine to thirty, nine thirty one, something thirty, nine thirty,
Speaker 2: five thirty something like. That but then the fourth because
Speaker 2: in the second quarter they had a five point league and,
Speaker 2: okay see going a seventeen nothing Run sho did and
Speaker 2: when seen Nothing, yeah, yeah they had two. Turnovers they
Speaker 2: made two threes two turnover they may and next thing you,
Speaker 2: know they don't score ten points and.
Speaker 1: They down twelve easily.
Speaker 2: Quickly Twelve you can't and y'all know you can't have
Speaker 2: them lows Against NO Kc brother where you can't score
Speaker 2: the damn ball because they always gonna be able to
Speaker 2: get points and with them being the number one, defense
Speaker 2: this is how they. Win Broy they're gonna have a
Speaker 2: quarter to where they're gonna hold you at, bay you
Speaker 2: know WHAT i. Mean and typically it's been the third
Speaker 2: quarter for The, Lakers but like, tonight in that second,
Speaker 2: QUARTER i was, like, damn they couldn't get they couldn't
Speaker 2: buy a.
Speaker 1: Basket they went on my fast Minute joe without squarreter.
Speaker 2: Point, yeah mean that Because shaye went to the, beach
Speaker 2: Because shay always start the second quarter on the, bench
Speaker 2: they down.
Speaker 1: Five when he comes back in the ball, game they're up.
Speaker 2: Nine DeAndre ayden says he hadn't thought about his player
Speaker 2: option for twenty six twenty, seven says he trusted.
Speaker 1: AGENTS i love it here.
Speaker 2: Regardless earlier in the, Day DeAndre ayton showed off his
Speaker 2: brand new dominating. Chain take a look look at this. Guy,
Speaker 2: okay he need to melt that. Down he need to
Speaker 2: melt that ish. Down look what that man. Said that
Speaker 2: man said. DOMINATON i want to know who is he?
Speaker 2: Dominating what is he? Dominated look at?
Speaker 1: That he ain't enjoying. Life, MAN i might send them
Speaker 1: goons to. Snatch that ain't no way you're supposed. To come,
Speaker 1: on come, on come, ON. Gp look at. THAT i
Speaker 1: don't know what he's thinking about that one?
Speaker 2: Man he look, ah, HELLO, gp Of, JOE O, joe
Speaker 2: of all the of all the situations before game? Four
Speaker 2: you after what you, got, bitch and the. Coach you
Speaker 2: hear the. Coach you read his. Lips he SAYS i
Speaker 2: can't play, him and you go get a. Chase you
Speaker 2: talking about tone, Death you talking about not understanding of.
Speaker 3: Situation, hey he was probably already made or in the process.
Speaker 2: Of being made of it before the cho you got.
Speaker 1: Bitch your coach said he can't play. You what are you?
Speaker 1: Dominating mm, hmmm.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, HEY i get, IT i get. It, Hey
Speaker 2: i'm like he should have heard. That he shouldn't even
Speaker 2: brought that. Out he shouldn't even been no video as that.
Speaker 3: That, hey that's The jeweler. Fault matter of, fact The
Speaker 3: jewlish should have took it. Back The jewlis shouldn't delivered.
Speaker 1: It he made a. Mistake what is you gonna go
Speaker 1: advertise that floe in the first? Place what are you talking?
Speaker 2: About you should be worried about that, game and you
Speaker 2: gotta be dominated on, that be dominated on that flow
Speaker 2: and then bring it. Out win a, game say you? Dominating, though,
Speaker 2: okay look, here hey hey winby winby you'd, say, HEY
Speaker 2: i GIVE i give, YOU i give you fifty grade
Speaker 2: for it because you that ain't for. YOU i, mean
Speaker 2: think about it when you look at that. Chain who's
Speaker 2: gonna say when have you ever heard somebody Say DeAndre ayton?
Speaker 1: Dominating mm. Hmm you know we need to blame The.
Speaker 2: Jewlis why AM i gonna Blame him'm gonna getting two
Speaker 2: fifty thousand for that.
Speaker 1: Train, listen you need to blame the jeweler for stealing.
Speaker 1: Money you're still in.
Speaker 3: Money you know when he listen AND gp and and And.
Speaker 3: Joe when when When aiden brought the idea of having
Speaker 3: a chain that goes With aiden and putting dominating in
Speaker 3: front of, it That julius should have, Said, NO i
Speaker 3: can create something, else, FOUND i should create something the.
Speaker 2: Business for making money with you there you, go ever
Speaker 2: tell you no man went in there without a ski
Speaker 2: mask and robbed him.
Speaker 1: Masks he just that's all just all but all the.
Speaker 2: Time but but my problem, Is, LOOK i ain't got
Speaker 2: no problem the man making big. Money he wanted to
Speaker 2: give him a. Chain but you're gonna get that chain
Speaker 2: and you're gonna put it up on social media to the,
Speaker 2: day the day of game, four after you got benched
Speaker 2: in game three and your head coach.
Speaker 1: LEFT i just can't, player, bro what is?
Speaker 2: Go four?
Speaker 1: Points what's going? Tonight what do you have? Tonight six? Points?
Speaker 2: Tonight think he had, like, uh, yeah he had six
Speaker 2: rebound one, minute so that's.
Speaker 1: Dominating.
Speaker 2: Huh he was three and he was three for three
Speaker 2: from the. Field though he was he was he was
Speaker 2: a fishing on so so, so and think about. It
Speaker 2: they took him out the third. Quarter he ain't play no.
Speaker 2: More The Jackson hayes balling. Though if Deanre aden Had
Speaker 2: Jackson hayes, motor.
Speaker 1: Well come, on damn you.
Speaker 2: CAN'T i, mean, hell he'll Be, hey he'd be an
Speaker 2: ALL nba. Player, real you, know that's what you expect
Speaker 2: the guy to be get taking number one over? All to, Me,
Speaker 2: Joe i'm just saying that's what you, expect how to
Speaker 2: expect him to. Be he's supposed to be got his
Speaker 2: goal number one OVERALL, gp correct me If i'm.
Speaker 1: Wrong isn't he supposed to? Be franchise? Altering that's what the.
Speaker 1: Potential but you know what's the number one over our?
Speaker 1: PICK a lot of those number ones in the last
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen years ain't been too. Good, yeah that's.
Speaker 1: Potential he should, be like you, Said, shayning what that?
Speaker 2: Way but a lot of these number one picks ain't
Speaker 2: been like, that like it's only been about To. Damn,
Speaker 2: YEAH i don't think That's. JOE i don't think that's
Speaker 2: asking too. Much it ain't to be, dominant.
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe especially if you're going number, one you got
Speaker 1: to think about.
Speaker 2: It eight billion, people how many of them are seven foot? Tall,
Speaker 2: okay let's just say of all the you know, WHAT
Speaker 2: i would see how many you know? WHAT i got
Speaker 2: to see this for myself BECAUSE i want to know
Speaker 2: how many people in the world sam foot?
Speaker 1: Tall y'all? Laughing, man, lam come, on, man you got?
Speaker 1: This how?
Speaker 2: Many because this is this is? Crazy, well.
Speaker 1: There's an. Estimator they, said there's an estimated.
Speaker 2: Twenty eight hundred to three thousand people in the world
Speaker 2: who are seven foot tall or.
Speaker 1: Taller they're extremely well.
Speaker 2: Represented five status, deviation so an event meaning one point
Speaker 2: six people every four, million or at least some foot
Speaker 2: tall in the. Estimating in The United, states it is
Speaker 2: estimated between eighty five and one hundred and fifty. People
Speaker 2: The United states got three hundred and sixty million. People
Speaker 2: they say there's between eighty five and one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty in THE us that are seven foot tall and.
Speaker 2: Taller so what you're, Saying, shannon he's so close to.
Speaker 1: Be so let me ask you a.
Speaker 2: Question, so if there's between seventy eighty five and one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty in THE, us are three on the
Speaker 2: eighty how many those play? Basketball how much money could
Speaker 2: you make if you was one of five or six
Speaker 2: people in the world that did what you? Did whatever it,
Speaker 2: is there's only five to six seven of you in
Speaker 2: the entire world that did what you.
Speaker 1: Did how much money could you? Make OJO a pretty penny.
Speaker 2: On, well right now they making three four hundred, Million
Speaker 2: they making three hundred four hundred. Million spake about. It,
Speaker 2: yeah there's there's somewhere between twenty five hundred and three
Speaker 2: thousand people in the world of eight, billion twenty five
Speaker 2: hundred to three thousand that are seven foot. Tall so
Speaker 2: you take all the people in the, World DeAndre eighten
Speaker 2: is one of. Them he might be the sorriest one
Speaker 2: of all of.
Speaker 1: Them, oh, man come, on come, on, man come. On
Speaker 1: he he doesn't he's not.
Speaker 3: Sorry but when you compare him to his cam padres
Speaker 3: that IN nba based on, centers then.
Speaker 1: Yes ain't no, way ain't no, way ain't no.
Speaker 2: WAY i COULD i could live with, Myself, joe could
Speaker 2: you live with? Yourself god gave you that, height gave
Speaker 2: you that, ability and you, like you know, What i'm
Speaker 2: cool with, man and they're gonna pay me. Regardless So,
Speaker 2: Hey i'm. Cool, HEY i know what you, Mean, BRO i.
Speaker 2: COULDN'T i, mean obviously he's a service of, big serviceable.
Speaker 1: Big. Ah he just not he not the Dogar.
Speaker 2: NO i think he is so offensive. Minded you know
Speaker 2: that when he's not engaged or he's not involved, offensively
Speaker 2: it determs what his. Defense it messes with his, defense
Speaker 2: and he's not as engaged as you would like him to.
Speaker 2: Be you, know, hell he played Against hartenstein and check bro.
Speaker 2: Like he ain't no score like, that, Okay ojo AND
Speaker 2: tv y'all know. That and his mentality to go out
Speaker 2: and dominate and be better than the guy who he's playing,
Speaker 2: against that's not his. MAKEUP i don't know why the
Speaker 2: hell he got the domination. Change And, SHANNON i was
Speaker 2: around his kid for a long period of.
Speaker 1: Time he played with my son at the prep school In.
Speaker 2: Phoenix SO i, said when you always dominating someone and
Speaker 2: then you get to the next level and can't be
Speaker 2: that dominant basketball? Player was always that, one and then
Speaker 2: somebody picks it, up and then it's like the bully
Speaker 2: going to the playground and always, bullying and then somebody
Speaker 2: else tries to bully and get them and to THE
Speaker 2: nba and couldn't do that because other people were like
Speaker 2: that because he's always the. Man he was always the,
Speaker 2: man and when you don't be always the, man it's
Speaker 2: a little. Different you, know when you get to people
Speaker 2: who are even either your level or better than.
Speaker 1: You that's just.
Speaker 2: Something that he couldn't. Overcome you know What i'm. Saying
Speaker 2: he couldn't overcome. That he hasn't overcoming, yet you know
Speaker 2: What i'm. Saying SO i think that is. It and
Speaker 2: what you, Said, joe it's all up here. Metality you're
Speaker 2: gonna be a dog or you ain't gonna be a.
Speaker 1: Dog it is what it.
Speaker 2: Is that just but WHEN i watched him in college
Speaker 2: AND i, peeple somebody he gonna. Be If i'm not.
Speaker 2: Mistaken his team got beat in the first round Of,
Speaker 2: Arizona yes they. Did, Yeah i'm thinking at, Him i'm,
Speaker 2: like And i'm, Like, Okay i'm NOT i don't have
Speaker 2: the train out to look at, it to project because
Speaker 2: in basketball you're. Projecting, OKAY i see what he is,
Speaker 2: now But i'm projecting in, two, three five, Years, joe
Speaker 2: this kid's gonna be. Unbelievable i'm looking at. It i'm,
Speaker 2: LIKE i just don't see a. MOTOR i just don't see.
Speaker 2: EFFORT i don't see. HUSTLE i don't see, HEARD i
Speaker 2: don't see. DETERMINATION i see a guy that's seven foot,
Speaker 2: tall that's gotten by because he's always been taller than everybody.
Speaker 1: Else and AS gp, said he can dominate because he.
Speaker 2: Was but now THE nba got a lot of, sixteen six,
Speaker 2: eleven seven foot, tall seven one, guys so you're not
Speaker 2: the only, one, Right and everybody, look you work, out
Speaker 2: and you work, out you go to THE Gm, joe
Speaker 2: you look at the, bill you look. Good, wait, come
Speaker 2: but you by yourself fifteen twenty other people coming, like, well,
Speaker 2: damn let me put my shirt back. ON i don't
Speaker 2: look at. IT i don't look as good AS i
Speaker 2: THOUGHT i. Did and that's.
Speaker 1: Him he was fine when he was the only seven.
Speaker 2: Footer, hey and a whole lot Of and you're not
Speaker 2: going to go against a whole lot of self footers
Speaker 2: in high.
Speaker 1: School, hell you ain't see a whole lot of self
Speaker 1: footers in.
Speaker 3: College, no you, know you know one of the issues
Speaker 3: there are too when you talk about, it you talk
Speaker 3: about how good he was in high.
Speaker 1: School he was the number one pick for a. Reason,
Speaker 1: yes obviously they bank it.
Speaker 3: On you continue to evolve your, Game you continue to
Speaker 3: get better at your, craft you sharping up your tools
Speaker 3: and evolving over time to where everything inquas you be
Speaker 3: in that number.
Speaker 1: One it just. Hasn't it just doesn't. Happened you just
Speaker 1: happened for. Him, Yep, hey everybody catch. You let everybody catch.
Speaker 2: Up, yeah and when you, bet and when you bigger than,
Speaker 2: everybody and you know you got a nice little touch
Speaker 2: around the. Basket, hell in high, school in, college can't
Speaker 2: nobody do nothing with? You that's why they draft you on?
Speaker 2: Potential well, Them maybe potentially he can come to THE
Speaker 2: nba and still be as dominant as he. Is it
Speaker 2: just don't happen that. Way, hey, bro you got a worry. You,
Speaker 2: hey you come in as a twenty, old twenty one
Speaker 2: year OLD.
Speaker 1: Gp you know.
Speaker 2: This you got a dude already in THE. Nba he
Speaker 2: been in the league for eight. Years he twenty, eight
Speaker 2: twenty nine years. Old, hell he got a, family. Defeed, Boy,
Speaker 2: please you think you feel outwork him or outplay, Him
Speaker 2: you got no day, coming so mentally you got to
Speaker 2: tap into something.
Speaker 1: Else. Bro you know you ain't never been challenged like.
Speaker 2: This that's WHAT i FEEL i feel Like aid didn't
Speaker 2: really get challenge brow until he got into THE. Nba
Speaker 2: well what might have tried to challenge it that he
Speaker 2: bucket you wanted to leave because he's never been challenged.
Speaker 1: Both that's what we're dealing with. It but we all got.
Speaker 1: It we all know it too, Though Shinning Joe. Chad
Speaker 1: when we went to the, pros we was. Different it's
Speaker 1: a different mindset about a lot of.
Speaker 2: Things, man everybody got that dog where we're gonna be, like,
Speaker 2: man if you come on the, floor on the floor
Speaker 2: against me or the field against, me were gonna tell
Speaker 2: your head.
Speaker 1: Off you know What i'm. Saying so we don't We
Speaker 1: We there.
Speaker 2: Ain't too many people like us for you don't know
Speaker 2: What i'm, Saying us for knee when we's gonna go
Speaker 2: in there and, dominate you see What i'm.
Speaker 1: Saying so it's a different.
Speaker 2: Story even though we did play against people in college
Speaker 2: and whatever and we got better and, better that's what
Speaker 2: we we, Work that's what we wanted to.
Speaker 1: It it's other. Stuff it's like some dudes ain't got,
Speaker 1: that but we had.
Speaker 3: That that was our gift and the, Funny, yeah the
Speaker 3: funny thing too about it when you talk about that
Speaker 3: gift That donk, had about that gift that you, had
Speaker 3: And joe you had that dog.
Speaker 1: Mentality you didn't even have to say. Nothing, joe you
Speaker 1: don't even have to talk about.
Speaker 3: It but your game and your presence and your or
Speaker 3: court was just that of will g be talking about that.
Speaker 1: Gift and the problem is gp it can't be, taught
Speaker 1: Can't it's. Not it's just in. You it's not a
Speaker 1: skill that you can acquire over time working on either
Speaker 1: you got it or you.
Speaker 2: Don't and you're gonna come every day to the show
Speaker 2: and you're gonna you're gonna give everybody a show every.
Speaker 1: Game hey A.
Speaker 2: A and if you met with a little, resistance you,
Speaker 2: know some guys are kind of fall back and, like,
Speaker 2: DAMN i don't want no more of. That but then
Speaker 2: you got some guys who, Like, okay next time you see,
Speaker 2: me you're gonna have hell to. Pay it's a it's
Speaker 2: a it's a mentality you gotta. Have. Ye it's a
Speaker 2: mentality that you got to have to play professional. Sports
Speaker 2: and that's why you see a lot of these cats
Speaker 2: be good when they're young and you're like damn when
Speaker 2: he got to THE. Nba why you wouldn't because he
Speaker 2: ain't had it and he ain't never been challenged like.
Speaker 1: That bro and and And, shanny you said it don't
Speaker 1: too many. People y'all got to think about.
Speaker 2: It And, joe you know, This when did you was
Speaker 2: playing some really really good. Players when did you start
Speaker 2: really playing good players in? College probably in the tournament
Speaker 2: or if, y'all if y'all made a game against one
Speaker 2: of the top players and you wanted to do, that
Speaker 2: and y'all was ON.
Speaker 1: Tv so college years were just rolling through. Stuff you
Speaker 1: know What i'm.
Speaker 2: Saying you wasn't playing the top dude every night until
Speaker 2: you got into THE. Ncaa and he never had. That he,
Speaker 2: didn't he didn't play like.
Speaker 1: That all the.
Speaker 2: Time and then when you, Said, shanny they got busted
Speaker 2: in the first round of THE ncaa tournament because they
Speaker 2: went they went with get somebody that.
Speaker 1: Was gonna go. AHEAD i JUST i don't know what it.
Speaker 1: IS i JUST i just.
Speaker 2: Couldn't ain't no WAY i could be that big and
Speaker 2: be that, sorry ain't no. Way but you, know back, THEN,
Speaker 2: gp if you were, big people would tell, you but
Speaker 2: you biggest sign for no.
Speaker 1: Reason but, oh they'll. Know they're gonna let you, know
Speaker 1: let you, know they're gonna be, like, man you Big,
Speaker 1: dodo but not Not.
Speaker 2: Joe well you know you can't say. That you don't
Speaker 2: want to hurt their feeling. Bad please about your damn
Speaker 2: feelings back with if you AND i were the same.
Speaker 1: Aide, Ye, Hey, joe you, know, hey the people that
Speaker 1: care boy you you know you? Sorry, hey hey, hey
Speaker 1: look look you can't even say it.
Speaker 2: Nowadays AND i know mental health do, exist but, hell
Speaker 2: that's what they that's what they throw.
Speaker 1: It they throw that At.
Speaker 2: Yount you messing up my mental. HEALTH i gotta watch,
Speaker 2: this my mental