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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal ull.

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Speaker 2: For me, I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so

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Speaker 2: many players say I want to be happy.

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day? Edith Steak?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Woo whoo? And then and tie Dad Robinstein. We have

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Speaker 1: one big week left. It is championship week, my friend,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. Are you ready for the

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Speaker 1: battle royale between my alma mater and your alma mater

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Speaker 1: on Saturday night in the Big Ten Championship? Friend, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: can't wait.

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Speaker 2: I actually I think I'm gonna make cheesesteaks right to

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Speaker 2: honor my opponent, the Pennsylvania niss of it all? How

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Speaker 2: about that?

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Speaker 1: Is there an Oregon food? Is there some sort of

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Speaker 1: Oregon thing that I should be making to try and

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Speaker 1: like hold up my end of the bargain.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Oregon's got a lot of It's like wine country now,

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Speaker 2: the Willamette Valley is known for wine. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of seafood that you can you can get. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if there's a specific There's there's a guy duck.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of that before? It's spelled like

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Speaker 2: g o duck geo d u c k okay it's

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Speaker 2: just like a it's like a comically large shellfish that

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Speaker 1: Ocean that I don't like the sound of that. Don't

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Speaker 2: It's very large and it's it's not it's it's like

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Speaker 2: borderline phallic, which I guess was your aim screen name

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Speaker 2: way back in the day. Sure, but yeah, you know

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Speaker 2: Portland's a big food town. Eugene, you know, there's a

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Speaker 2: big brewery scene in Oregon.

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Speaker 1: So you're telling me to get ripped on our live

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Speaker 1: stream on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, beer and wine shoots, I think is the big one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one. Well,

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Speaker 1: as a reminder, people who have listened to this for

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks now or last couple of

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Speaker 1: live stream on Saturday night out on YouTube, out on Facebook,

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, on TikTok, and on Twitch. It is a

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Speaker 1: solid verbal globe event. It is like Live eight, but

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Speaker 1: without the eight. We will be doing our part to

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Speaker 1: I don't know, celebrate the Big ten championship game on

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Speaker 1: Saturday night. Part of our companion stream we've done a

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Speaker 1: couple of these now. They're a ton of fun. So

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Speaker 1: if you're around, if you want to enjoy the second

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Speaker 1: screen with Dan and I would love to have you.

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Speaker 1: We've also put out a call to former players and

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Speaker 1: personalities and we're gonna have fun with it. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. So if you stay tuned to

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Speaker 1: our social feeds and the like, you'll be sure to

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Speaker 1: get updates on all of that and much much more.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, much more to come.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be great. I guess maybe there's I should

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Speaker 2: make a Central Pa specialty, right, that's where they put

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Speaker 2: American cheese on pizza. That's a big thing in that area. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: really representing well the attune of pie.

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Speaker 1: So cool. Yeah, no, it's good stuff. Hit follow Hit

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Speaker 1: subscribes that you don't miss any of our episodes. If

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Speaker 1: you don't catch the live stream during the Big Ten Championship,

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Speaker 1: we will of course be doing a live stream reaction

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Speaker 1: at midnight Eastern on Saturday night. This is also the

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Speaker 1: final week to get in our run the Board Pick

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Speaker 1: Them challenge. We are going to decide throughout the course

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Speaker 1: of this episode what the big prize is. But the

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Speaker 1: last week we've got big games to discuss. We're going

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Speaker 1: to need to put together our heads here and come

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Speaker 1: up with a big prize to signify the event. If

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Speaker 1: you're cool with that, I would love that. Yes, we

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Speaker 1: do have some news before we dive into the games.

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Speaker 1: New college football playoff rankings are out. Your Oregon Ducks

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Speaker 1: hated Oregon Ducks number one, number two, Texas number three,

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Speaker 1: Penn State number four, Notre Dame number five, Georgia number six,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State number seven, Tennessee eight, SMU nine, Indiana ten,

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Speaker 1: The controversy is ten and two. Miami lost their game

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Speaker 1: Two teams not playing this week in Alabama and Miami.

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Speaker 1: That's right, That's right. It leaves Bama in a great spot.

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Speaker 2: You come down. I saw Mario christ boul gave it

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Speaker 2: interview where he's like in situations like this, I turned

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Speaker 2: I turned to the facts about who we've beaten, and

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Speaker 2: this the difficulty, the perceived difficulty of the SEC. Where

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Speaker 2: do you come down on the Alabama Miami question?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you put those two teams against one another,

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Speaker 2: In terms of you think I test they're better, or

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Speaker 2: in terms of what they've done this year they're better

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Speaker 2: because they both scheduled a Graham Mertz associated team in

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Speaker 2: Although Alabama, you know, at their best, has looked better

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Speaker 2: but they have a worse loss than Miami in Oklahoma,

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Speaker 2: They got shelled and outclassed and embarrassed on the road. Whereas,

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Speaker 2: and they didn't lose by a lot. I think Miami's case,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think results matter. Miami can only play who's on

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Speaker 2: And you know, whether I'd wager on the side of

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Speaker 2: I think I would give the edge to Miami here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean I understand the case, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: I also wonder if timing is playing like there's like

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Speaker 2: Alabama lost too, And look, we're talking about hypotheticals, but

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Speaker 2: if Alabama lost twenty four to three this week, and

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Speaker 2: to Auburn twenty four to three this week, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's unnecessary recency juice here, and I

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Speaker 2: think I would roll with Miami ever so slightly, Like

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Speaker 2: you think Alabama's the better team if they were eight

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Speaker 2: and four, are they the better team? Like, what's the line?

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Speaker 1: Then? Yeah? I know, I know, I know, I'm listening.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's the strongest argument.

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Speaker 2: No, I know, and I think you would side with

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Speaker 2: Miami if they're eight, for it's a separation of one loss,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know. I think the overall strength of

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Speaker 1: That's fine, and I think you should.

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Speaker 2: I still think there is something about going ten and

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Speaker 1: I'd give the edge to Miami one. And I still

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Speaker 1: this playoff expansion argument. Please, I'd much rather be arguing

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Speaker 1: pick some games? Dan Rubinstein, paz, it is championship week, baby.

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Speaker 1: We have terrific matchups, in part because everyone did away

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Speaker 1: These are not insignificant games as we have seen in

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Speaker 1: Twelve pm on ABC, It is Iowa State at ten

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Speaker 1: and two. It is Arizona State at ten and two.

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Speaker 1: ASU currently a two point favorite. They play this one

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Speaker 1: teams do not play this season, right. I had a

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Speaker 1: hell of a time trying to pin down Iowa State

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Speaker 1: this year. I don't know if you've been keeping track

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Speaker 1: of my progress with all things Big twelve, But allow

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Speaker 1: Flora's yours. So I have a bone to pick with

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Speaker 1: the Iowa State fans that I had been reading online

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Speaker 1: because there has been a lot out there of oh

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're presenting a beautifully digital audio, pristine straw

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Speaker 2: man argument continue.

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Speaker 1: I'm not presenting any argument, Oh okay? I just I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is that true?

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Speaker 2: I like both of these offenses. Iowa State has the

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Speaker 1: Wow, Man, can you imagine Kenny Dillingham if they win

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Speaker 2: I think there is like a mad scientist element to

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Speaker 1: Oh that is that Iowa State is one hundred and

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Speaker 1: in my crawl. I'm with you. They're also relatively inefficient

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Speaker 1: at the moment. They're like carrying the banner at the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: borrow one of your phrases, Oh thank you, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: They played down for games that aren't as meaningful. Right,

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Speaker 1: If they win, I'd be pumped. I'd be thrilled to

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Speaker 2: Dan Okay, something to pay attention to as you say

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Speaker 2: that that Iowa State's going to win this game on

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Speaker 1: Yes, they're pretty good at it, but they don't generate

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Speaker 2: They don't generate a ton of pressure. They make plays

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Speaker 1: They don't generate a ton of pressure. And it's not

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Speaker 1: account for their secondary somehow. Yeah, secondary has been okay,

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Speaker 1: seeing big play potential out of this passing game. I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing thirty one to twenty six Iowa State wins the

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Speaker 2: It looks like Arizona State when they blitz. They are

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Speaker 2: the second best team in America at preventing those big plays, right,

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Speaker 2: bring it so, Okay, I don't need to sit here

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Speaker 2: and list elements of this. Here's what I think the

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Speaker 2: come down to red zone play. Iowa State can neither

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Speaker 2: to believe, well, if I'm going to believe that Iowa

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Speaker 2: the air against Arizona State defense, I think we're going

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Speaker 2: to see this is going to be like a Kenny

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Speaker 2: the Magnificent game in that he is going to magically

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Speaker 2: turn sevens into threes, okay, or the defense will turn

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Speaker 1: And so I have.

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Speaker 2: This again thirty four to thirty with a couple instances

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Speaker 2: of why don't we go for it there on fourth

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Speaker 2: and goal? Coming back to haunt Iowa State. I think

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Speaker 2: red zone play. Iowa State is one hundred and sixth

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Speaker 2: you have to be able to stop the run, you

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Speaker 2: and that's not where they're strong. I think that gives

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Speaker 1: You've had Wendy's nugs dipped in sauce, But have you

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Speaker 1: had him covered in sauce? Dan, Wendy's new Saucy Nugs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you don't need a fork forks up devils.

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Speaker 2: Continue four pm ABC. It is ten and two Georgia.

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Speaker 2: It is eleven to one Texas. Texas is favored by

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Speaker 1: In Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta. Georgia won the first game,

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Speaker 1: Quinn Viewers. They put in arch Manning just to see

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Speaker 1: that game with defense full stop. That was Week eight.

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Speaker 1: A lot has happened since we kgate, like one hundred

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, there is, Yeah, it is all about the climb.

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Speaker 1: Which of these two teams do you think has grown

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Speaker 2: I think elements of these teams have grown. I think

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Speaker 1: And we've seen the.

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Speaker 2: couple of astises right that Florida didn't have DJ Lagway

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Speaker 2: In terms of Georgia's growth, I haven't seen a ton

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Speaker 2: who has been beat up with I think shoulder issues,

434
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Speaker 2: was able to complete a bunch of big third down

435
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 2: passes downfield. And I just their secondary has been as

436
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 2: a unit pretty disappointing relative to recent Georgia secondaries. I

437
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 2: do like Dan Jackson, but otherwise it just hasn't been

438
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: the same type of Georgia team that has gotten stronger

439
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: over the course of recent seasons. This is a very

440
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Speaker 2: good Georgia team at its best, But I don't know

441
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Speaker 2: if growth is the right word to use for Georgia

442
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: in this moment.

443
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, for me, the answer is Texas and

444
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: you bring up the defense. I think you're right to

445
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 1: bring up the defense. I bring up the ground game.

446
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: The ground game has improved and Sarkas talked about it

447
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: fairly recently, how they made a commitment to get the

448
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: offensive line and the running backs in the same page.

449
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: Their confidence has grown as an offensive unit as a result.

450
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. In that first game, Texas did not

451
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: have the luxury of trying to build a ground game

452
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: because they were down twenty three zero at half. I'm

453
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: curious to see in this one what kind of an

454
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: impact a guy like Quintravian Weisner can have, definitely provided

455
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: he has a chance to maybe settle into the game.

456
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Speaker 1: They just did not have that capability the first time

457
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: around because they were down so quickly. By the way, Dan,

458
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: please tennis term here, huge, huge unforced air by you

459
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: this season? What did I do?

460
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: I mean, take your pick, but continue.

461
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Speaker 1: Well, remember back in the day you were all in

462
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Speaker 1: on Colt McCoy Jordan Shipley, the romance or the romance

463
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: the roommate thing. I don't know if romance, Ty, are

464
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: you breaking the story here? Breaking news? I read my

465
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Speaker 1: notes wrong? How did how did you miss on Quintravian

466
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: Wisner and John Tay Cook being second cousins?

467
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: Ty, I'm not knee deep in family trees like you know.

468
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: How did you miss on that that's Tailor made for

469
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein.

470
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 2: No, that's Taylor made for Tom Hammond. I don't know, man,

471
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: there's a lot of interconnective tissue in college football.

472
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Speaker 1: I guess no.

473
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Speaker 2: I appreciate John tay Cook on though John.

474
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Speaker 1: Tay Cook's transferright now. You're right, Yeah, so you.

475
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Speaker 2: Had one season and he wasn't like a factor for

476
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Speaker 2: me to like dig deeper into this season. I know

477
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 2: he really wasn't.

478
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Speaker 1: I know it could have been a pre season thing.

479
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: But it's fine. Nobody's perfect. You're right though, when you

480
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: bring up the Georgia growth thing, and it's it's more

481
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Speaker 1: nuanced because in that first game, all three of their

482
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Speaker 1: touchdowns came from Trevor e Ten, who's been on the

483
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Speaker 1: shelf for a few weeks now. He might miss this

484
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: game as well. I'm not sure exactly where he stands.

485
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: Nate Frasier, the true freshman he stepped in. He's been

486
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: pretty good in his place. He scored the game winner

487
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Speaker 1: a week ago in overtime against Georgia Tech. I think

488
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: this running game is incapable hands one way or another.

489
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: But the run game does not have as much pop

490
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 1: as we're used to and that has had a downstream

491
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Speaker 1: effect on the passing game, which I have talked about,

492
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Speaker 1: and I'm just not sure where that stands from a

493
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: growth standpoint. Like I would feel better about this team

494
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: if we could say definitively the passing game is better

495
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: than it was back in Week eight, because Carson Beck

496
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: threw three picks in that game, and then he folwed

497
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: it too quickly, and then he followed it up after

498
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: a bye week with three picks against Florida, and then

499
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: he followed that up with another pick against Old Mess.

500
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: Now he's been clean since then. He hasn't thrown a

501
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: pick since that Old Miss game. But if the problem

502
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: isn't with Carson Beck throwing picks, it's with their receivers

503
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: dropping passes. All three of their top targets have a

504
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: drop rate of at least ten percent. That is not

505
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: a Carson Beck problem, but it is a problem for

506
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Speaker 1: Carson Beck. And so my question is, in crunch time,

507
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: if this game is and I believe it will be closer,

508
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: has this passing game grown to a point where, yes,

509
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 1: that is the dude, That is the dude who we

510
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: are throwing to in crunch time, who we know is

511
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: going to catch the ball and is going to put

512
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: us in a position like Dominic Love. It's been the

513
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: top targeted guy. But again, he's got like an eleven

514
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: percent drop rate. He's not exactly the deep threat. He's

515
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: a lot of underneath roots and stuff like that. He

516
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: might be the guy that you target. He's got the

517
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: most receiving touchdowns on this entire receiving core. Right, I

518
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: just don't know if I feel fully confident in any

519
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: one of those guys stepping up in crunch time to

520
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: bail out Carson Beck if he needs to make a

521
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: big throw.

522
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Speaker 2: This is a fascinating matchup because we've seen it. We've

523
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 2: seen a lot of ugliness from offenses in this one.

524
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, a few weeks ago, both coming

525
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: off of emotional wins in different ways. There is something

526
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: that scares me about the Texas offense away from Austin,

527
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: whether it was against Vandy, whether it was I mean,

528
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: the offense obviously wasn't great at home against Georgia, but

529
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: there is you know, against Arkansas against Texas A and

530
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: M last week, I don't think they score in the

531
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: second half, right, I mean, the defense wins that game. Quinn,

532
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: youwers made some great throws. Weisner was the guy sort

533
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: of dragging them to first downs over and over again.

534
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: But in terms of this offense against even if George's

535
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: defense isn't amazing, which I don't think they are this year,

536
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: there's a lot of talent up front. There's individual pieces

537
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: that should be scary that I just wonder if Georgia

538
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: as what again the points spread here two and a half.

539
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: Two and a half in favorite Texas?

540
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, dogs, The Dogs are dogs at home essentially

541
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: in Atlanta.

542
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: It's a home game. Yeah, And.

543
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 2: I just don't know about Quinn viewers in this spot.

544
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: That is scary to me because everything else about Texas.

545
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: I'm pretty confident. I'm confident in this defense turning over

546
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: Carson and getting off the field quickly against this Georgia offense,

547
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: you know, especially as Georgia has had some slow starts

548
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 2: this year offensively, I'm pretty confident in that. That to

549
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: me is the X factor is Quinn yours in spots

550
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: like this over these last couple of years against high

551
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 2: quality defenses, if you are to believe that you need

552
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: to score.

553
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: Twenty three twenty eight points.

554
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 2: To beat this year's Georgia team with the type of

555
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: defense that Texas has, you might only need to score

556
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. I don't know, but that to me, I

557
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: can't get on board with Quinny yours in this spot.

558
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: I just I.

559
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: Understand the Carson Beck struggles this season. I understand that

560
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: we're rewarding Georgia for previous years into a certain degree.

561
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: This year, I can't do it. I can't pull the

562
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: trigger on it. And so I'm going Georgia plus the

563
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: points here to win something ugly once again, to find

564
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: a way in Atlanta, in this stadium where they've had

565
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: a good amount of success, not always in this game,

566
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: but a good amount of success.

567
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Georgia twenty to seventeen. Wow, low scoring game,

568
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: lowest scoring game. Yeah, I mean, I get, I hear you.

569
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: I hate picking this Georgia team after eight overtimes or

570
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: whatever last week.

571
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: I do. I know, I know. I would be very

572
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: surprised if Georgia had the same level of success on

573
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: defense this time around. And that was the one thing

574
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: I really really thought about, because again, they ate Texas

575
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: alive in the trenches that first time around, and we gate.

576
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: I just don't see that happening again. I rewatched that

577
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: game this morning. It seemed like a combination of Texas

578
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: a being off guard and then be the whole thing

579
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: just sort of snowballing once Georgia got some momentum. I

580
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: come back to something though, that you mentioned a few

581
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: minutes ago. This is a gettable Georgia's secondary and they

582
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: are not making those big game changing plays like we

583
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: have seen in the past. And I knew this in

584
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: Round one. That's why they brought the pressure that they

585
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: did this whole game on Saturday afternoon, the whole shebang.

586
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: If Sark can take advantage this time around of what

587
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: I believe is a weaker than usual Georgia's secondary, and

588
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: I have a lot of faith in him as one

589
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: of the better offensive minds in the sport that he

590
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: can do it leaning on that defense, which I believe

591
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: is the best in the country. Right now, I think

592
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: Texas wins Round two. Okay, I think it's twenty seven

593
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: to twenty.

594
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Speaker 2: So it's an uncharacteristically successful performance from quin yours. If

595
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: you want to call it that show, I mean, is

596
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: it unfair to call it that? In this moment? I

597
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: under all of georgias struggles are very real and Carson

598
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: beck struggles this year. Would turnover is extremely real. We

599
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: just haven't seen quinn ewrs put it on on a

600
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: good team, especially away from Austin. I mean, whatever your

601
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: opinion is, I guess of this year's Oklahoma team with

602
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: what they did to them. Yeah, but I don't know.

603
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: That's sort of a special circumstance to me.

604
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

605
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: I'm happy to see it happen. I just want good football.

606
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: But I have to pick one of these teams. You

607
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: can give me points for Georgia in Atlanta. I'm still

608
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: I'm still a sucker. I guess we've.

609
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: Both been using the phrase this time around. Yeah, I'm

610
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: gonna jot that down on my notes. Maybe we'll come

611
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: back to that here when we figure out our prize.

612
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: That's cool with you pay so a watch A clock clock,

613
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: a grandfather clock would be beautiful in many a house. Yeah,

614
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: of course. Never Ballerhood eight pm ABC, The Clemson Tigers.

615
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: The Clemson Tigers got into this game. It basically fell

616
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: off the back of a truck. Dan, That's how they

617
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: got into this game.

618
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: They went to a yard sale. There was a discounted

619
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: ACC Championship game appearance. You know eleven dollars or make

620
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 2: your best offer. Clemson was like, all right, we can

621
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: throw a few bucks at that.

622
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Speaker 1: Yeah, SMU is eleven and one. They were a two

623
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Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. They played this one in

624
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: Charlotte of America Stadium. Do you remember way back when? Ah? God,

625
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: it feels like an eternity ago. One member of this

626
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: broadcasting duo. Yeah, I don't remember which one. It was,

627
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: you or me. You could have been anybody. It could

628
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: have been either of us. One of us had the foresight,

629
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: had the courage to say that it wouldn't surprise them

630
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: if SMU went twelve to zero. Do you remember that?

631
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't, but you were close.

632
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: I remember comments I don't know ball, I.

633
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: Mean speaking broken ones correct twice a day?

634
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: Right?

635
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: Oh no. I had a moment of weekness after that

636
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: Week two game against BYU that damn near broke me.

637
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: Eighteen fifteen. They lost, and I searched far and wide

638
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: for the rationale. The best reason that I found for

639
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: that loss was a Reddit user, possibly a chipmunk is

640
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: the handle?

641
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I like the attribution.

642
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: Forgot that the SMU game was on a Friday, and

643
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: normally before going to work, would put on a Lucky

644
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: SMU bandana on his or her dog before leaving to work.

645
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: You're you're real deep into this world.

646
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm deep. I'm deep, believe me. Forgot to put the

647
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: bandana on, came home, forgot the game was on. The

648
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: dog did not have the bandana on. That's why they

649
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: lost to be you Dan, I see.

650
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: I think was that a Preston Stone game as well?

651
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Speaker 1: It was a Preston Stone game. Yeah, okay, okay, I

652
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: did come around SMU. Eventually, SMU came back around for me.

653
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: It's a good season for them. It's a nine to

654
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: three season for Clemson. One loss in conference to Louisville,

655
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: the other onlves to Georgia at the beginning of the season,

656
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: obviously South Carolina to close things out. Where are you

657
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: at on this game?

658
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: I think I like SMU here. I think there is

659
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: something about Clemson on the heels of losing, how they

660
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: did to South Carolina last week, how they lost to Louisville,

661
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: Like when they play good teams they lose this year,

662
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 2: and when they play flawed teams, when they play average teams,

663
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 2: when they played so so or below average or bad teams,

664
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 2: they win.

665
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: And I don't know.

666
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: I think there is something about the Clemson offensive line

667
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: that seems more gettable than usual. I guess it has

668
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: been the case for the last few years that the

669
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: offensive line has gone to tick downhill. And I like

670
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: kid Clubnick. I don't love kid Clubnick. I like that

671
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: he's athletic and can run for a last second touchdown

672
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: against Pitt, But then like they needed a last second

673
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: touchdown against Pitt a pit team that fully collapsed.

674
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: Right both ways right, You're like, that's a really good play.

675
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 2: I don't love that you needed that really good play

676
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: to beat this collapsing pit team without their starting quarterback.

677
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: I believe in that game. You can fact check me.

678
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I'm barely able to remember what I

679
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: had for breakfast. I just I think SMU, there's a

680
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 2: case that Kevin Jennings was very quietly the best quarterback

681
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: in this conference. He has a conference that includes cam Ward,

682
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: Kyle McCord, whoever else. I think at the end of

683
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: the year, he ended up as a more efficient overall

684
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: quarterback in acc games. Whatever that means. I got some

685
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: thoughts got he completed more passes, his yards per attempt

686
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: where it was higher it's a big conference. You know,

687
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: opponents are you know, all over the place. So I

688
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: like SMU here. I think they're the more complete team

689
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: and I love and this has been this year's sort

690
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: of pet term for me.

691
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: I love the throttle factor of SMU that there have.

692
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: Been moments where they've been like, well, yeah, we can

693
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 2: play down and not look that good and get away

694
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 2: with a win. No, they destroy Virginia, they destroy cal

695
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 2: right that they have found ways to pull away from

696
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: clearly inferior opponents, And I like that about this SMU team.

697
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 2: They feel more complete, they feel more locked in, they

698
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: feel like they have more ways to win. So I'm

699
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: going with SMU. I don't love the geography of this

700
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: all that it's.

701
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: Well ensure they've owned that stadium.

702
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: Footprint wise, this is absolutely a Clemson advantage. But I

703
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: don't know there is something that has been so locked

704
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 2: in about SMU going to Louisville and winning the way

705
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: that they did and Clemson losing the way that they

706
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: did to Louisville.

707
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: I just.

708
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: Circumstances I think favor a little bit Clemson, even with

709
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: the heartbreaking loss last week to South Carolina. I just

710
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: I don't trust this Clemson offense, and I'm going with

711
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 2: I'm going with the SMU experience overall to win this

712
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: game twenty eight, twenty three.

713
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: It's kind of amazing how SMU has flown under the

714
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: radar this season if you think about it, and I've

715
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: been trying to put my finger on why I think

716
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: they're well.

717
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: I haven't played Clemson, they didn't play Georgia tack, they

718
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: didn't play North Carolina, they didn't play Miami like.

719
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: There's there's definitely a huge part of it that I

720
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: think is because of that, but also as a G

721
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: five team moving up totally the ACC the early loss

722
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: was really ugly. I think it was easy. I mean

723
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: I wrote him off after that. I think it was

724
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: really easy to sort of forget about SMU. But that

725
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: quarterback switch, to your point to Kevin Jennings obviously worked out.

726
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: They can kill you a bunch of different ways on offense,

727
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: They've got a three to four defense that's been really

728
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: solid under Scott Simons. There's just a lot to like here,

729
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: And I don't know if people have really paid a

730
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: whole lot of attention to SMU. For you pick your

731
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: reason why. My primary concern when I looked at this

732
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 1: game was whether SMU was going to be overmatched against

733
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: that Clemson front. So I went back. I watched all

734
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: of their games since the quarterback switch, and there are

735
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: a couple things that I think stand out to you. Okay.

736
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: The first is that Kevin Jennings is really freaking good,

737
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: and maybe that goes without saying to some of your

738
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: points about the stats. When they put him on the move, Dan,

739
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: he is outstanding. The second thing is that when you

740
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: watch SMU, especially when you compare SMU to Clemson, one

741
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: thing that stands out is how create of the play

742
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: calling is on the SMU side, not the Clemson side.

743
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: I saw new things each game that I watched. Not

744
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: only were they tailoring game plans for opponents, but they

745
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: were also adjusting on the fly, which is something that

746
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: I think is important if you get to this level. Frankly,

747
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: you're going to have to do that against a team

748
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: like a Clemson, And so you kind of overlay that

749
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: with what we already know with Clemson, which is they're

750
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: going to blitz a ton, They're going to try to

751
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: make Kevin Jennings uncomfortable. SMU is going to counter that

752
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: by using Kevin Jennings legs. He's not Leonora's Sellers, but

753
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: he's similar enough, right, And I think we saw how

754
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: successful that can be last week when South Carolina won

755
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: the game. I think they're going to find ways to

756
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: put Kevin Jennings on a move, use his mobility. I

757
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 1: think they are going to kill Clempson with Brishard Smith

758
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: coming out of the backfield in the passing game, that

759
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: is the matchup. I think they are going to kill

760
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: Clemson doing just that. I also went back and I

761
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: rewatch most of Clemson season, and my two conclusions are

762
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: this one. If not for an incredible individual effort from

763
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: Lenora's Sellers last week, they probably win that game. That

764
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: was like, they looked like the better team to me,

765
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: they just couldn't tackle.

766
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,959
Speaker 2: Them, right. Well, they scored fourteen points.

767
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 1: Scored fourteen points, and I think it was PFF. Somebody

768
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: put out the stat that since they've been keeping track

769
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: of quarterback mobility or whatever, he broke eighteen tackles something.

770
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: He's the creator. Yeah. Secondly, if you compare clemsonto a

771
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: year ago, they're much better out wide, much better out

772
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: wide than they were. And that's especially true as these

773
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: young receivers, the Bryant Westcos and Tjmike. As these guys

774
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: have to as these guys have grown, I definitely think

775
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: there is much more big play potential in this passing game.

776
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: My problem though, is that the offense is telegraphed and

777
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: as you said, it's very dependent on Kate Clubnick, and

778
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: I like him. I started the club level. I'm open

779
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: to reopening it for this game or the playoff if

780
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: they make it that far. But it kind of seems

781
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: like they're doing the same stuff that they used to do,

782
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: just with different players that maybe aren't as good as

783
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson and Trevor Lawrence days. And that is

784
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: the problem with Clemson right now. They've got players. I mean,

785
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: it's still a good team. They lost three games, whatever,

786
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: but it's still a good team. They just it's not

787
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: got the same pop that it used to. And that's

788
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: why I like smu here well.

789
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 2: And you're also talking about a Clemson team who sort

790
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: of established their reputation this year by beating up on

791
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: APP State and NC State to horrifically disappointing teams. Yeah,

792
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: and then you look at their schedules here again, through

793
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: no fault of their own. But in terms of why

794
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: we are thinking highly of Clemson or semi highly of Clemson,

795
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: it's NC State six and six, Stanford three and nine,

796
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: Florida State two and ten, Wake Forest four and eight,

797
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: Virginia five and seven, Wulsville eight and four as a loss,

798
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech six and six, Pit seven and five last

799
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: second win, and then nine and three South Carolina loss.

800
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: That they are a not an opponent snob. They are

801
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: opponent cozy right, that they are happy to get in

802
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: tight with you. It's just I don't know. I think

803
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: Clemson is good. I think SMU just has more ways

804
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: to win.

805
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I'm going thirty three to twenty

806
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: four SMU as long as they don't give up huge

807
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: explosion plays, which is a risk, it is a risk here.

808
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: As long as they don't do that, they're winning this

809
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: game by nine thirty three twenty four. To be fair,

810
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: could say that about literally everything, say it about every team. No, no, no,

811
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, if you go back and watch all

812
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: the games as I did, yeah, for sure, there there

813
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: is that tendency there, and we.

814
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: Saw SMU we give up those plays.

815
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: We saw it against I mean Louisville did it to

816
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: both these teams? Frankly, yes, but we have seen it

817
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: on occasion with SMU, and that's the one thing I'm

818
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: worried about here. Okay, fair enough, we agree that brings

819
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: us to the biggin. I got my U Notre Dame,

820
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: got my Penn State shirt on Rory. You're confused about

821
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: who your favorite team? I know, I know. I was

822
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: going to say, I have the hat. I have a

823
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: hat on order. I'll have that in time for the

824
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: stream on Saturday night.

825
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: We talk in Jacksonville State Western Kentucky playing for the

826
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: second time in five days. We're how could we even

827
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: know who's better between these two teams?

828
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: We know they haven't played since Saturday eight pm on CBS.

829
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: It is Penn State at eleven and one. It is

830
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: your Oregon Ducks at twelve and oh favored by three

831
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: and one half points. Yes, wow, at long last, our

832
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 1: teams play in some capacity. It's not an authentic solid

833
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: Ver Bowl, but it's right. It's you know, it's close

834
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: enough until we get one. We may get one later

835
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: this year, who knows. Yeah. I went back while I

836
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: was in my little rewatch streak, my mode. I rewatched

837
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: Oregon against Ohio State. I want to give you your

838
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: organ ducks a ton of credit that I just didn't

839
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 1: see it the first time I rewatched. This is yours tie,

840
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: I do, I do build up that that fluffin. I

841
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: want to give Oregon a ton of credit for what

842
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: they did in that game. The way they took advantage

843
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: of a dumb mistakes from Ohio State be a gimmick

844
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: on sidekick see a rules loophole. You know I love

845
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: a good loophole day. I mean, they were just really

846
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: impressive from your boy, Dan Lanning.

847
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: You're not used to seeing teams succeed against Ohio State.

848
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 2: I understand, continue I'm not.

849
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm not so. The way they kind of reverted back

850
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: to their old finesse ways, to me was really inspiring

851
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: and it made me aspire to be a better man.

852
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: How many different versions of this monologue did you rehearse

853
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: and write down? Were you like through the night on

854
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: a typewriter, throwing away the crumpled pieces of paper, like

855
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 2: the struggling writer?

856
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: What I rehearsed it exactly as many times as Dan

857
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: Lanning has won a conference championship.

858
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: Okay, he's been there for three years. James Franklin has

859
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: been there for a while. Okay, I think it's all

860
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 2: very cute.

861
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: No, listen, he's a Fiesta Bowl winning coach. What is

862
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: not to love about Dan Lanning? Yeah, no, you're absolutely right, Tie.

863
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: This is a little old organ man, just underdogs, just

864
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: making their way through this the big old blue blood

865
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: world of Penn State football, right.

866
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: Will old Oregon with a quarterback who might be as

867
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: big as me, which could be like does that not

868
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: bother you a little bit? Against a pass rush?

869
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: Like this doesn't bother me all that much. They keep winning, Tie,

870
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: They do keep winning. Where are you at in this game?

871
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: Twelve and oh well, there's probably a bunch of other

872
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: twelve and zero teams that you're going to go through

873
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: right now, right, I'm gonna I'll look.

874
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: Through the standings. I'll see what I can find. Okay.

875
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: My concern about Penn State as an Oregon human is

876
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: the obvious one is their front seven is fast, is angry,

877
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: is able to take advantage of teams, is able to close,

878
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: you know, close fields super impressively. This is a Penn

879
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: State front that is appears to be as good as advertised.

880
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: As I watched more or Penn State or Penn State

881
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: closer than I had previously. You know, I watched the

882
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: big games. I watch parts of other games, but you know,

883
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 2: with a big game like this, you watch a little

884
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: bit more.

885
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: Penn State.

886
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 2: Drew Aller is crazy impressive physically. I think he's fine.

887
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: I think it's he's should be better at this point.

888
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: That's my opinion of Drew Aller. Okay, I don't know

889
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: if it's a combination of coordinators that they've had and

890
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 2: coordinators realizing that he might be limited in terms of

891
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: going downfield, or they're concerned about the receivers, which was

892
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: a big point last year but doesn't seem to be

893
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: fully addressed in a flip turn way this year. I

894
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: think Penn State's really good.

895
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: I don't you know.

896
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm gonna take the high road here, Ty,

897
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say bad things. I'm not going to

898
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: be dramatic about what I say about Penn State. I

899
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: think they're a good team. The concern to me with

900
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: Penn State is the concern about that every single Penn

901
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 2: State fan has. I should probably turn it over to

902
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: you to make the case against Penn State, right nobody's

903
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: better prepared to make the case against Penn State than

904
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 2: a Penn State.

905
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: Now I've been studying for this all year.

906
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that this is not a big game team. This

907
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: is not a big game coach. This is not a

908
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: big game quarterback. This is not a big game offense.

909
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: This is not even like a semi big game team.

910
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: They beat Minnesota buy one, two five, one point away

911
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: from home on the road. This is a friendlier environment.

912
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 2: It's in a dome. It's not in the fridge in

913
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: Minneapolis air. What do I think about this game? I

914
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: think Oregon should be able to move the ball some

915
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: if the offensive line plays a B plus game, because

916
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: I don't think any offensive line is going to do

917
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: better than a B plus against this Penn State front,

918
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: especially Abdul Carter coming off the edge. I think Oregon

919
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 2: getting healthier is a big deal. Jordan Birch, I think

920
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: is going to Jordan Birch and Mateo Uyang Lala and

921
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: Derek Harmon I think are going to be extraordinary problems

922
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: for this Penn State offensive line. And I think coming

923
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 2: off a game in which it's Washington but whatever, ten sacks,

924
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: nine to ten sacks, it's a big deal to play inside,

925
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: to have a fast track for this Oregon team that

926
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: I think has a clear speed advantage on both sides

927
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 2: of the ball. I think is something that I'm taking

928
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: into account here. I think Oregon might be able to

929
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: pop a couple big plays downfield to a healthy test

930
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 2: Johnson or a healthier tes Johnson.

931
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: I am worried about that. I am worried about that.

932
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: And you know, you and I kind of traded some

933
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: thoughts before we hit record here, and one thing that

934
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: you brought up, and I think it's one hundred percent true,

935
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: it's that this Penn State defense is highly dependent on

936
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: getting pressure. Yes, highly dependent on getting pressure. And go

937
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: back and rewatch the Ohio State game. I mean, they've

938
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: got as good a front as anybody. They got virtually

939
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: no pressure on dealing.

940
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: That was a beat up Ohio State line. That was

941
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 2: I think the week that McLaughlin suffered as season ending injury. Sure,

942
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 2: and everybody was freaking out. They're like, oh Man, Penn

943
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 2: State's can overwhelm this Ohio State offensive line.

944
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: They didn't. They did, And it's like, you know, you

945
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: can go back and watch any game against whoever you

946
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: think has an interesting defensive front, and it just doesn't

947
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: seem like you can get to Dylan Gabriel, not with

948
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: four men, not with bringing seven men. Like they're just

949
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: very very good at handling that situation. That would pose

950
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: a serious problem with the way that Penn State plays defense.

951
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: And I was going to say, side bet over under

952
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 1: three and a half pass interference calls against Penn State

953
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: in this game. I mean, that's just the way they play.

954
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: They like to play really tight, aggressive man defense where

955
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: they're up in your face. And that can work when

956
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: you're getting pressure, it can blow up in your face

957
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: when you're not. And oftentimes what we have seen, I mean,

958
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: look at Joey Porter's tape from a year ago and

959
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: just grabs the guy. You know, you're going to see

960
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: a lot of pass interference calls. You'll know if you

961
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: see the pass interference calls how the Penn State defensive

962
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: staff thinks their effort is going. That's an early tell.

963
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: If we see it early in the game, you will

964
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: know what they think of this Oregon offensive line continue.

965
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 2: The other thing is that's going to be interesting is

966
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: how Oregon decides to play Tyler Warren When I think

967
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: the Penn State running backs are pretty good in Singleton

968
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: and k Tron Allen, But I don't know if this

969
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: Penn State offense just sort of goes as one guy

970
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 2: goes in Tyler Warren and they line him up at quarterback.

971
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: He catches balls in traffic. He is a big deal

972
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: pass catcher nationally. So I think even if Penn State,

973
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: who is not a fast starting team, that's the other

974
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: issue with me with figuring out the back and forth

975
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 2: of this game. S Penn State is not a great

976
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: first first quarter and a half type team. They've gotten

977
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: way better in the second half in these games. But

978
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: the problem then becomes that's giving Oregon time to figure

979
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: out what to do with Tyler Warren. They've got fast linebackers,

980
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: They've got like are they gonna put Jabarmahammed on Tyler Warren?

981
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: Maybe?

982
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: Are they gonna just line safeties up against him? And it's like,

983
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 2: you know what, if you want to throw it to

984
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: Tyler Warren fourteen times and try to win this game.

985
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: Fine.

986
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: They tried to do that against USC and they were

987
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: lucky to get out alive against an extraordinarily average Big

988
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 2: ten team. And so I think the speed advantage that

989
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 2: Oregon has is the difference on both sides of the ball.

990
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: I have it as fifty five to ten Oregon. That

991
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: one stuck up on me, right, it was right there

992
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: for you. Thirty one twenty three, okay, and even then,

993
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: like there is part of me and maybe I'm being

994
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: a little bit too influenced. Texting with our pal Jeff Schwartz,

995
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: he doesn't see a way that Penn State.

996
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: Scores twenty against this Oregon d didn't Jeff have Oregon

997
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: clobbering Washington in the rematch last year?

998
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I think if you play that game more, No,

999
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: it's insane.

1000
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 1: I love Jeff. We should have Jeff on this stream.

1001
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: I like Jeff.

1002
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, let's call it. Yeah, thirty thirty one

1003
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: to twenty one is my final answer for the final

1004
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 2: in this game, Oregon wins.

1005
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: I just don't think you're evolved enough to understand the

1006
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 1: passing attack of Penn State.

1007
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1008
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I am either. Actually, to be honest

1009
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 1: with you, I've been struggling with this all year.

1010
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: Tyler Warren leaking out and then a hitch to Harrison whatever.

1011
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren throwing to Tyler Warren handing off to Tyler Warren.

1012
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, O god, it would make me so happy as

1013
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 2: an Oregon human. The more Bo Pribula in this one,

1014
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: the better. If I see Bo Prabula in the red zone,

1015
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: that's a win for Orgs.

1016
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 3: Oh.

1017
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see Max ooped up in this game.

1018
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: I do. I think you're gonna see at some point.

1019
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for the holy grail of oop de up,

1020
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: which would be Drew Aller, Bo Prabula, Nick Singleton, k

1021
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: Tron Allen, and Tyler Warren all in the field at

1022
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: the same time. Yeah.

1023
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 2: Maybe this time it'll work for James Franklin when he's

1024
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: won in ninety three against you know, highly ranked teams.

1025
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: Can we somehow have all five of them in the

1026
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: backfield something like it? Like, I think they're gonna have

1027
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: to do stuff like that, and if you.

1028
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: Need that then you're losing.

1029
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: I think they need to get Nick Singleton to the edge.

1030
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: He is their home run hitter who is still not

1031
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: hitting home runs as much as he did as freshman year. Okay,

1032
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: he is the dude you talk about a speed advent.

1033
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: He's got a speed advantage. He's their burner. Ohio State

1034
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: had some success with that, but not obviously enough to

1035
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: win the game. I think that's a key to victory

1036
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: for Penn State. Can they get him to the edge,

1037
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 1: Because you're right to bring up the Oregon defensive front.

1038
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: They're incredible, but I think you need to somehow try

1039
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: to move the football outside of that.

1040
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: But you need an offensive line to do that, not.

1041
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: If you do it quickly, which is why I think

1042
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: we're going to see a lot of quick stuff to

1043
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: the perimeter.

1044
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: But do you think that works for four quarters against

1045
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: this team?

1046
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's a start. I don't think

1047
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: Oregon's bulletproof. I know you don't believe they're bulletproof either, No,

1048
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: I don't, And so I think that's one way that

1049
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: you can start the against them and see what happens.

1050
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: I also think they need to scheme Tyler to the

1051
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren point. And we've talked about this a lot.

1052
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: I mean we've been taken arrows on social media for

1053
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: some of the stuff. We've boasted about Tyler Warren now

1054
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: for a month straight. But I think they need to

1055
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: scheme him into the right matchups so that they give

1056
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: themselves an option to throw it deep to a guy

1057
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: like an Amari Evans, and I know this is not

1058
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: necessarily Penn State's calling card, but I think you need

1059
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: to use Tyler Warren in some capacity to lure the

1060
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: back half of that defense up so that you can

1061
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: try to take the lid off of it. And they've

1062
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: done that in spots. They've gotten better at doing it

1063
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: in spots as the season has progressed. I do think

1064
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: Penn State is actually better at throwing the ball downfield

1065
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: than many would realize unless you watch all the games.

1066
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: And that's fine because it's not the hallmark of this offense.

1067
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 2: But they I watched the Minnesota game. They had the

1068
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 2: long touchdown on a broken play.

1069
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: No, no, I listen, I'm with you it, I get it.

1070
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: I get I'm not saying this is a consistent feature

1071
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: of the offense truly. It is more of a bug

1072
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: at this point than but it's we've seen them do that,

1073
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: and they need to do it more if they want

1074
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: to have a chance against a team like Oregon. Right

1075
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: it just you know, it requires a lot to go right.

1076
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: It does. This is not me saying Penn State does

1077
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: not have a chance.

1078
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: Penn State has the circumstance advantage right closer geographically, Oregon's

1079
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: coming off of a big emotional win against a team

1080
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: that they haven't beaten these past couple of seasons. They

1081
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 2: got the monkey off their back. Yeah, that you know that.

1082
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 2: It's if you're organ You're like, we're twelve and oh

1083
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: what like what do we gain by you know, beating

1084
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: a team that has a worse record than us? It's

1085
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: like the meaningless game in terms of what you have

1086
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 2: to prove in the Big ten.

1087
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and the other thing I'll point out and then

1088
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: I'll give you my official pick here. I think Drew

1089
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: Aller is better than you're giving them credit for. And

1090
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: I can definitely relate to that sense of I wish

1091
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: he were better, he should be better than by now. Yeah,

1092
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: I get it. I can relate to that absolutely, and

1093
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: I have definitely had that passing thought as well. I

1094
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: do think that there have been moments this season. You

1095
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: bring up to Minnesota game, that's an example of it,

1096
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: where Drew Aller has to a degree put the offense

1097
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: on his back.

1098
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: He was running hot in that game, by the way,

1099
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 2: on the sideline and James Franklin kind of dressed him down.

1100
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: Vibes are not great on the sideline in that game.

1101
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: Olurs got a Luke Altmeyer hair situation going on too.

1102
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't dribbling out of the beanie.

1103
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't fully dissected that one. Maybe we can

1104
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: do that on the stream YEP. This is a tough

1105
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: Penn State team, not a bunch of paid mercenaries like

1106
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: you got out there in the Pacific North.

1107
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: Okay, sure, you're doing it out of the kindness of

1108
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: his heart.

1109
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: This is the only coach in this matchup who's ever

1110
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: won a conference title. This is a Penn State team

1111
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: that I think is better than you think. I think

1112
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: they prove it Saturday night. I think it's the game

1113
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: of the year. Huh. Penn State shocks the world twenty

1114
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 1: seven to twenty five and gets the number one overall

1115
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: seat in the playoff.

1116
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 2: A right, I'm writing this down. So would you bet

1117
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: your own money on James Franklin in a big game?

1118
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: Here to talk about the past? Dan?

1119
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: Oh No, I'm asking a question. Do you want to

1120
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: make a friendly wager?

1121
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: A friendly wager? Sure? What's the wager?

1122
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: Ten thousand dollars? It's all, it's everything.

1123
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: I have, all the sock money we have earned from

1124
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 1: running the hatch over there.

1125
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 2: That's that's my retirement fund. I'm gonna work to do these.

1126
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be ninety one years old. That's great shape.

1127
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 2: Let's previewing like Mars Tech against the Oregon State.

1128
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: Because we are in the content business. Let's take this

1129
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: to social media. Okay, right in whatever platform you are on,

1130
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: we're there too, because this is what we do. Now,

1131
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: let us know what our friendly wager should be for

1132
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: this game, and we will pick one and we will

1133
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: make a production of it, not just on our stream

1134
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: again eight pm Saturday night, on again whatever platform you

1135
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: are on, but we will talk about it in advance

1136
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: so that you know what the wager is. All are

1137
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: welcome to stop buy. We're going to invite guests. It's

1138
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: going to be a lot of fun.

1139
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 2: What year did James Franklin win that conference title?

1140
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: Twenty sixteen? Sixteen? Wow, it's three Olympics ago. How many

1141
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: Olympics ago? Was that when we were young and full

1142
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: of life? Oh?

1143
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 2: I wasn't married? Is that what the year you got married?

1144
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 2: I got married the year prior you got married, twenty fifteen. Yeah,

1145
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 2: that's a that's a minute tie. By the way, you're right,

1146
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: Dan Lanning has not won a conference title. He won

1147
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 2: a conference title and a national title tie.

1148
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: As a head coach.

1149
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: Was he the head coach of that team defensive coordinator,

1150
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 2: But he's been in these spots. That's all. I feel good.

1151
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good here. And if Penn State wins,

1152
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 2: there's a first for everything. Tie James Franklin in a

1153
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: big game in the modern era, there's a first for everything.

1154
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm glad we get to share this. Honestly, oh, I

1155
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: on a personal level, like this is kind of cool.

1156
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: It's pretty neat that our teams get to play like this.

1157
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: And look, we still have the opportunity for Oregon Notre

1158
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: Dame or I guess Penn State Notre Dame as well.

1159
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: We have the opportunity for Penn State Notre Dame, for

1160
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: Oregon Notre Dame, for another Oregon Penn State. Like this

1161
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: is going to go on for a while. Yeah, that's

1162
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: absolutely true. Join us in Saturday night. I've got Penn State,

1163
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: You've got Oregon, the most obvious picks in the world.

1164
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 1: We do have a few other games that we should

1165
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: get to very quickly.

1166
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 2: Definitely should if you're cool with that.

1167
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: These are games that take place on Friday night, So

1168
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: we stack these towards the end of the show because

1169
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: we don't want the show to go stale the second

1170
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: you listen to it. But the big one on Friday

1171
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: Night is UNLV against Boise State. Real playoff significance here,

1172
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: in effect, the winner of this one gets into the playoff.

1173
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: They're playing it in Boise. Boise is eleven to one,

1174
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: a four point favorite over UNLV. Boise and UNLV played

1175
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: back in Vegas in week nine. Boise won the game

1176
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: twenty nine to twenty four. That was a TD from

1177
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: Ashton gent early in the fourth quarter, and then there

1178
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: was an incredible fourteen play forty eight yard drive that

1179
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: bled eight minutes off the clock, allowing Boise to win

1180
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: the game. UNLV DAN had the lead at the end

1181
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,439
Speaker 1: of the third quarter. They got one possession the entire

1182
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. That was yeah, so Boise played the clock

1183
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: extremely well. Again. They're playing this one on a cold

1184
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: night in Idaho under an air stagnation advisory.

1185
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 2: I don't even know what that is, ty, can we

1186
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: get Tim Buckley on the horn?

1187
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 3: It is?

1188
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: Oh no, I did the research. Oh okay, please. It

1189
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: is when major buildups of air pollution smoke dust and

1190
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: industrial gases are expected near the ground for a period

1191
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: of time, usually due to lure due to a high

1192
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: pressure system that won't move, and there are week wins

1193
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: unable to supply fresh air. Yeah, it's a fitting warning

1194
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: because I've had questions about the stagnation of this boise

1195
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: offense for weeks running. Now, dan Oh transition, that is

1196
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: a transition. That is why we are professionals. They weren't

1197
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: great against Nevada, they were worse against Wyoming even last

1198
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: week against Oregon State like they I mean, they won

1199
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: that game handily, but if you watched it, there was

1200
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: meat on the bone. They could have done better offensively.

1201
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: I am taking the points here because my major takeaway

1202
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: from the first time that I watched the first game

1203
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: and now the second time that I rewatched it is

1204
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: that you and LV would have won if they had

1205
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: one more possession. Yeah, which is the ultimate. If you

1206
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: had wheels, you'd be a bicycle. I get it. But

1207
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be a great game. I

1208
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a field goal one way

1209
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: or the other. I'm pumped that we get extremely meaningful

1210
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: games on both Friday and Saturday. I think you ANDLV

1211
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: wins the rematch. Dan I have UNLV as well twenty

1212
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: nine twenty eight on a dramatic.

1213
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: Two point conversion twenty seven to twenty four by a

1214
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: field goal. Okay, the thing I don't love about this

1215
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 2: UNLV team right now is circumstance going to altitude. It's cold,

1216
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 2: it's on the road. They play in a nice warm

1217
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: dome as their home site, and they themselves have not

1218
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 2: been throttling teams either by and large. Yeah, the thing

1219
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 2: I don't like about Boise is I'm worried about. I

1220
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: don't know if wear and tear is the right word.

1221
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if trent is the right word. But

1222
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 2: they this is their seventh or eighth game without a

1223
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 2: buy in a row. There's a deep season game, and

1224
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 2: Ashton Ginty's getting like thirty five thirty seven carries, thirty

1225
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: two carries, Like I just I worry that with his

1226
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 2: worst game coming against UNLV this year in terms of

1227
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: yards per carry and that much more on his tires,

1228
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 2: I guess I can use tread here. Since then, and

1229
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 2: with being unable to really count on a downfield passing

1230
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 2: attack consistently not being able to separate from a team

1231
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 2: like Oregon State until late last week, that the defense

1232
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: I think is just kind of average, and so there's

1233
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: just too many ways for I'll use your word for stagnation.

1234
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 2: To me that I always am a little bit hesitant

1235
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 2: in a big game where you're like, well, they've got

1236
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 2: a great running back, right that you're like, I just

1237
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 2: I have like these haunting visions of Leonard Fournette going

1238
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: for like twenty one yards against Alabama. There's like, well,

1239
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 2: that's not working, so we're gonna lose. I don't love

1240
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: that that. It's it's sort of a Zerbiak situation at

1241
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: running back. He's the best running back in the country.

1242
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: It's not even close. He's incredible. He's amazing any single adjective,

1243
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: and you know, heaping of praise you want to put

1244
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 2: on him is all deserved. I just as a team

1245
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 2: for Boise State in this moment, I hate picking against

1246
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: them at home, I hate picking against them circumstantially, but

1247
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 2: UNLV in this spot, to me, I think can win

1248
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: in more ways. So I'm going with the Rebels on

1249
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: the road twenty seven to twenty four.

1250
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: The other big game on Friday night, this one on ABC.

1251
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: It's Tulane at nine and three on the road at

1252
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: Army ten and one. Tulane is a five point favorite,

1253
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: and they are my luck of the year, luck of

1254
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: the week. You need to update that, sound man. Okay, me,

1255
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: why this is block of the year. Why I say this?

1256
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: I say this at the risk of offending all of

1257
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: our listeners who wear the uniform, Okay, whose service I

1258
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: deeply appreciate and respect. Army is going to get smoked

1259
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: in this game, Dan, Okay, Now I sort of understand

1260
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: why the line is five, because there is a question

1261
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: of run defense. For two lane one hundred and thirtieth

1262
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: nationally in yards per successful successful rush. However, you grade

1263
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: that it's not a great tackling team, which tends to

1264
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: show up against good running teams like Army. The counterpoint

1265
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: is that Tulane played a very similar team back in

1266
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: Week twelve named the US Navy. They allowed one hundred

1267
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: and thirteen total yards total yards of that game they

1268
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: won thirty five to zip. That was one of my

1269
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: locks back then. I think Army is better than Navy.

1270
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: I think we'll see that next week. But if you're

1271
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: on the fence wondering, like, do we think Tulane can

1272
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: handle an option team or something like that. There is

1273
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: proof of concept, my friend, that you may be interested in.

1274
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: Not only did they handle it, they handled it with applom.

1275
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: They were wonderful in that matchup. Yeah. The problem I

1276
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: have with Army is not with the offense and not

1277
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: with the option. It's with their defense. They have played

1278
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: a bunch of Tomato Cansas year and the one time

1279
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: they didn't, the one time they didn't against a little

1280
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: team from South Bend, Indiana, they got destroyed. Tulane is

1281
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: not perfect, but Tulane is a much more complete team

1282
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: than I think Army is used to. I think they've

1283
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: got a really good coach and John Sumroll, who everybody

1284
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: wants to hire at this point. Yeah, Tulane's winning this

1285
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: one going away twenty eight ten. They're taking the American

1286
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: Army Luck of the week. What luck of the week?

1287
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: Are you doing this on purpose? No, there is no

1288
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: way that you looked at this matchup and you said, oh,

1289
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: gor me plus the points.

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Speaker 2: There's no way I like Army plus the points. What

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Speaker 2: where are they playing this game?

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Speaker 1: They're playing this one at West Point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I think Tulane is a good team. Look,

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01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 2: they beat Navy what thirty five thirty five nothing, thirty

1295
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 2: five stip they killed him.

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Speaker 1: I think Army is way better than Navy. I agree

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Speaker 1: with that.

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01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 2: We're once again talking about Tulane in the same way

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01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 2: we are talking about other teams who have coasted like Army.

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01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 2: Right that they've just beat up on a bunch of

1301
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 2: teams who fired their coaches. Yep, so Charlotte, Rice Temple,

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01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 2: like the down the stretch. Tulane's record is a little

1303
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: bit inflated by some disastrously bad defenses. Okay, they play

1304
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 2: a decent team and immediately lose Tulane, So I understand

1305
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 2: thinking like, okay, they lost at Navy, or they beat

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01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:48,439
Speaker 2: Navy on the road, whatever, and comfortably dominant fashion. Army

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01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: throws the ball, Army runs the ball. Army's not on

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01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 2: Notre Dame's level, is not on Notre Dames level.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna pound Army, Dan, come on, don't do this.

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01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 2: I think there's some I mean, how is Tulane against

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01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: run last week against Memphis?

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: Literally last week not good at all, not good at all,

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01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: And that's not even Memphis's strength.

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01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 2: But continue, not even Memphis strength. I think it's a

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01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 2: bad time of year. I think it's a bad matchup.

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01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 2: I think Army is able to get it done against

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01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 2: a Tulane team who how long ago, eight days ago,

1318
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: they were like, hey, there's a path of the playoff.

1319
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 2: There's no path of the playoffs. I am worried about that.

1320
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 2: I am worried about that. I am worried the season,

1321
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 2: the hope one thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm worried about the letdown effect of not having really anything.

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Speaker 2: Of no, no, they're playing for a conference championship, so

1324
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 2: they're playing for conference shignificant.

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01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: But two weeks ago they're playing for a playoff game

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Speaker 1: in this one. So I hear doing that.

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01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 2: To be deflated about your season ceiling, and then go

1328
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: to the Hudson Valley from New Orleans to play against

1329
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 2: an option a paint. Look they won an Annapolis again,

1330
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 2: this is all true. I think Army is going to

1331
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 2: find a way to wear this team down, keep a

1332
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 2: defense on the field, pop a couple over the top,

1333
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: are me at home? The frigid air is going to

1334
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 2: find a way. I have Army winning this one, relatively

1335
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 2: low scoring, twenty four to nineteen.

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Speaker 1: You are nuts, man, I love you, but you are crazy.

1337
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna clip it. I'm gonna clip this clip, clip

1338
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 2: it all you want.

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01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Lock of the Year. Also on Friday night, this

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01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: one at seven pm. It is a rematch the game

1341
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: we saw last week. If you're wondering who's gonna win

1342
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: between Western Kentucky and Jacksonville State, well saw that game

1343
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: last week. Yeah. Western Kentucky won in a fifty yard

1344
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: field goal of three seconds left, nineteen to seventeen. Jacksonville

1345
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: State is at home. Both teams are eight and four.

1346
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: Jack State is a three and a half point favorite. Here.

1347
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: There is a weird possibility that I just invented for

1348
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: this game, and I'm gonna stick to it. Okay, please.

1349
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: Jacksonville State clinched a spot in this title game back

1350
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: in week thirteen when they beat sam Houston State.

1351
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, they Milton burled this showing only enough to.

1352
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: Be only enough to win. I think it's possible that

1353
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: last week's game against Western was a look ahead spot

1354
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: to this week's game against Western.

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01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 2: I agree.

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01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: I don't even know what we call that. It's like

1357
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:15,439
Speaker 1: an open face, double decker look ahead or whatever. Right.

1358
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: Jacksonville State wins the rematch twenty three to seventeen. I

1359
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: have Jacksonville State as well by five or six for

1360
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 1: that same reason. It's at home. Stakes are here. I

1361
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be able to run. Then we go

1362
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 1: ahead in time to Saturday twelve pm ESPN Ohio at

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01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: nine and three, Miami Ohio at eight and four. Miami

1364
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: Ohio favored by two and a half points. Dan, can

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01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: I interest you in a little maction featuring two bad

1366
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: offenses and two good defenses.

1367
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 2: You can, absolutely you can.

1368
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: This feels like the rock Fight du jour on Saturday.

1369
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: I am going to pick Miami Ohio because these teams

1370
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 1: played back in October and it was not particularly close.

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01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going with Miami Ohio too. That just they've

1372
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 2: been in this spot. I like their defense a little

1373
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 2: bit more. They've come in winning a ton, and there

1374
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 2: needs to be a Miami that's impressive on conference championship.

1375
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: Weekend, right.

1376
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1377
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going in Miami of Ohio here. I think

1378
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 2: the defense gets it done. I think there's a coaching

1379
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,759
Speaker 2: advantage as well as I think Ohio has been coached

1380
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 2: these past few years. I'm going Miami.

1381
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. The final by the way, in that earlier matchup

1382
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 1: this year, was thirty to twenty, but if you watched

1383
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 1: the game, it was thirty to six until two garbage

1384
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: time touchdowns. I like Miami also not to take too

1385
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: big of a dump here on Ohio. I want to

1386
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: give a shout out to Tim Albin. The coach.

1387
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 2: Isn't Cleveland steamer Ohio.

1388
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 1: That will be Ohio. Yes, correct, Cleveland is an Ohio.

1389
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,799
Speaker 1: Tim Albin has been on the job in some capacity

1390
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: at Ohio since two thousand and five. Took over after

1391
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: Frank Soulich left in what was it twenty one something

1392
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 1: like that. This was a hell of a coaching job

1393
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: this year because this roster was decimated by the transfer portal.

1394
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,480
Speaker 1: They lost twenty one guys. He was left with six starters.

1395
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: It is programs like Ohio that gets like particularly hit

1396
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: in the portal era. He had a backfill with seventeen

1397
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: transfers of his own. You put this thing together on

1398
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,919
Speaker 1: the fly. I think they're gonna lose this game to Miami,

1399
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: but that's not a story. A lot of people are

1400
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: going to talk about what he did this year. I

1401
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: think was damn impressive, So kudos kudos to him. Final

1402
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 1: Championship game. Dan on Our Slate here, okay, seven point

1403
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: thirty ESPN. It is Marshall at nine and three, it

1404
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: is Louisiana at ten and two. Louisiana favored by four points. Here.

1405
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: Marshall needed an overtime thriller a week ago against JMU

1406
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,839
Speaker 1: to get to this Sun Belt game. Their strengths actually

1407
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: line up pretty well with Louisiana's weaknesses. But here's a

1408
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: fun one please. Louisiana has the worst success rate against

1409
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: the run in the country. I don't love that. Fifty

1410
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: five percent of the time when you run against Louisiana,

1411
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 1: the stat people who keep track of these things deem

1412
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: that run a success, which is not good. I would

1413
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: think Marshall can take advantage of that. They are a

1414
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: decent ground team. I just trust Louisiana a little bit

1415
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 1: more so I've got him winning. But I think this

1416
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: would be a fun close game, so I would not

1417
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 1: touch the point spread. I have no idea this will

1418
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,560
Speaker 1: be part of our run the board game, but I

1419
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 1: think Louisiana wins. I think it's close. I think it's fun.

1420
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 2: I think it's a season long exercise and thinking and

1421
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 2: making sure people think that Louisiana can't stop the run.

1422
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 2: For this very whole little spring long come now, Louisiana

1423
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 2: has been taking care of business. I like them a

1424
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 2: little bit more. And there is something about the Charles

1425
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 2: Huff situation that I don't like conference championship weekend. And

1426
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 2: maybe I've just been burned as an Oregon person with

1427
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 2: like Kenny Dillingham leaving before conference. I think it was

1428
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 2: for the No, it was after the Oregon State game,

1429
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 2: like the Mario Christobal conference ta, just like I just think.

1430
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: He's ready to be gone. And I'm gonna go with Louisiana.

1431
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:13,839
Speaker 1: Here there you go play. Run the board dot Com

1432
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: is how you can get in our big pick them game.

1433
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: There is one week left. There will be postseason stuff

1434
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: that we're working on that we'll talk about on the

1435
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: recap podcast. But Dan, we're gonna give away an Apple

1436
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: Watch to the winner. Okay, what an Apple Watch to

1437
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 1: the winner?

1438
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 2: You're an Apple Watch owner, yes, and I.

1439
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: Got one on right now. Yeah, give away a new

1440
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: Apple Watch playerundboard dot Com. All you gotta do is

1441
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,640
Speaker 1: go there, get the fine details, sign up for our

1442
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,759
Speaker 1: Patreon if you're not already signed up, and then pick games.

1443
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 1: We've got six games on Saturday We're gonna have a

1444
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: few other player props to get it to ten selections

1445
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: in total. Of course, the top five in our overall

1446
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: season long game and will be immediately elected to the board.

1447
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 1: Secret Service will rush in will protect you and your

1448
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: family and all your worldly belongings because you're you know,

1449
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: on the board. It's a big deal. And we of

1450
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 1: course are gonna give away a Apple Watch to the

1451
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: week long winner. Damn tie. You love your Apple Watch, right?

1452
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah. It's tracking my sleep how poorly I sleep?

1453
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 2: But are you you improving at all? Are you seeing

1454
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 2: any No?

1455
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: No, no, the data is getting better because I'm wearing

1456
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: it more and I'm like tweaking it. But okay, so

1457
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: it's good at that. It also has confirmed a solid

1458
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: wife Kate, to the extent that it can that I

1459
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: don't have sleep apnea, which has been her argument now

1460
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: for the last I don't know fun.

1461
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 2: I'm glad.

1462
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's no fun to have sleep app Now, I

1463
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: just suck. It's sleeping, that's the problem. You need more reps, TI,

1464
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: I do gotta get some naps in. I do so again. Look,

1465
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: make sure you tune in on Saturday night. You can

1466
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 1: go yes to smell tizeshar dot com. It'll be eight

1467
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: pm Eastern time. We're gonna have a fun stream. I'm

1468
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: excited about it. Immediately following the stream will be the recap.

1469
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: We will talk about all of these games. We will

1470
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 1: try to put it in context. And then I believe

1471
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: the plan is on Sunday we're gonna get back together. Yes,

1472
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna react to the playoff field once that becomes

1473
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: official as well. So very busy weekend here in the verballerhood.

1474
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 1: We hope to have you with us. Hit follow, hit subscribe.

1475
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 2: Is there not a game kicking off at nine pm

1476
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 2: Eastern on Saturday night on ESPN?

1477
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: Oh right, Dan, funny that you should mention that, baby,

1478
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: you really went for it. That's great, That's not gonna

1479
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: be good for the voice. That's okay.

1480
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 3: Lehigh won last week, Baby, they should believed they they

1481
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 3: crunched those Richmond Spiders nine pm ESPN plus Lehigh Mountain

1482
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 3: Hawks nine and three squaring off against your Idaho Vandals sep.

1483
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 1: Nine and three as well points bread here is fourteen

1484
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: and one half points. They play this one in the

1485
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: key Be Dome. The Idaho Vandals are the eighth seed

1486
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: in this tournament. Dan, there's a long road trip for

1487
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: the Lehigh faithful. Sure, I've been reading here in the

1488
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 1: local news. They're sending up sixty four buses of students

1489
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 1: who are just making their way through the good old

1490
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: Heartland up to the Pacific Northwest. I'm assuming, I'm assuming

1491
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 1: that they'll be shielded from the air stagnation advisory that

1492
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: the folks up in Boys you're gonna have to deal with.

1493
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: But what's gonna go down in Moscow?

1494
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 2: It's a good question, ty. I was looking up the

1495
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 2: best hot dog place in Moscow, Idaho, and I don't

1496
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:38,879
Speaker 2: know if there's a hot dog place in Moscow, Idaho,

1497
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 2: even like nearby towns. Because I'm going with the dogs here.

1498
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 2: I have Lehigh struggling in this one. Oh And it's

1499
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 2: just because when your place like Lafayette, sure, you're built

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01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 2: to win these kinds of games. But Lehigh, I don't know.

1501
01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 2: There's a frailty to the engineers that I don't trust.

1502
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: So I'm going Idaho here, and I'm going Idaho big.

1503
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 2: I'm going Idaho thirty one to seven. And it's I

1504
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 2: think really nice for a program like Lehigh to to

1505
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 2: find themselves in this moment, But I don't think they

1506
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 2: recruit the kinds of guys. Yeah, that can thrive in

1507
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 2: deeply northwestern Idaho. This is way the f up, This

1508
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 2: is way up there.

1509
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, by the way, didn't Idaho played well against Oregon,

1510
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: didn't they?

1511
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 2: I was a good team. I like their coach a

1512
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 2: lot like I think he could he could be the

1513
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 2: next coach of I mean, take your pick, Oregon State, Washington,

1514
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 2: I mean Washington State. He could stay in the same house.

1515
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:44,879
Speaker 2: It's so close. I think he could get a decent

1516
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,480
Speaker 2: sized job in the next couple of years.

1517
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 1: Well, I'm on Lehigh here. You know, I'm contractually obligated.

1518
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: I understand. Maybe I was just saying that to blow

1519
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: smoke and none of of reverse psychology get them inspired.

1520
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean I've I've had my moments with

1521
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 1: Lehigh from a township zoning perspective, which sure, you know

1522
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: everybody cares about those types.

1523
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 2: Like everybody is like, oh, writing down the note.

1524
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: Meat and potatoes issues here on the show, I'm going Mountahawks.

1525
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: Though it was a comeback a week ago, it is

1526
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: another situation where they are now. There is a longer

1527
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 1: road trip, mind you, but they're a double digit dog.

1528
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: Nobody believes in the Mountain Hawks, but I just I

1529
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 1: believe in the magic since they dumped those goalposts into

1530
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 1: the raging Lee High River and they forced the amphibious

1531
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: assault team from the Bethlehem p PD to fish it out.

1532
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 1: So I give you Mountain Hawks. They're gonna win this one,

1533
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: twenty six to twenty one. All right.

1534
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I appreciate that from you sticking true.

1535
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 2: This is a family connection that you were riding with.

1536
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: I have to. I have no choice. Yeah. Longer show

1537
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: than usual, bigger games than usual. That's the way it

1538
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: works on the show. We appreciate everybody's patience hanging with

1539
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 1: us here through not just this show, but really the

1540
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 1: whole season. We have one huge week of games left.

1541
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: Join us Saturday night for the stream. If you can't

1542
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 1: make it, that's cool, Hit follow, hit subscribe, leave comments,

1543
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,320
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1544
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: game at playerundboard dot com. The more the merrier here.

1545
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 1: After this week, we round the bend into bowl season,

1546
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: into playoffs, into everything that this great does. We'll play

1547
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: the December to Remember thing on Saturday, if that's cool

1548
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 1: with you. Oh, my God. Of course we'll play that

1549
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,839
Speaker 1: everything that December is going to give us to remember.

1550
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 1: We are excited about the next six weeks ahead for

1551
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself,

1552
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: Ty Hildenbrandt, the proud Penn State alum that I am.

1553
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you all on Saturday. Stay solid, Peace,