1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We have 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: got a loaded program for you. We're going to talk 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: with our friend Julie Kelly in the next hour. She 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: is down in South Florida, I believe, following the latest 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: on the Aileen Cannon, sorry, the Eileen Cannon the case 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: that has to do with with the. 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: Class line documents. 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Yes, mar A Lago documents that is proceeding there. 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that shortly. 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan, you might have mentioned heard us mentioning yesterday 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: that we were going to be talking with him. We 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: taped with him in Washington, d C. Yesterday, shared a 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: couple of those clips on social media already. But he 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: will be with us in the third hour. But I 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: want to dive right in to what Julie Kelly reported 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: yesterday in the mar A Lago classified documents case. I 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: think this is a huge deal per particularly because Merrick Garland, 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: Attorney General of the United States, took complete responsibility for 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: this raid and said he directly signed off on it 21 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: the FBI. And I'm reading from Julie Kelly's tweet as 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: well as the attachment for that filing, the FBI authorized 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: the use of deadly force at mar Lago, and the 24 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: particular pertinent part says law enforcement officers of the Department 25 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: of Justice may use deadly force when necessary. Now some 26 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: are saying, well, this is how all FBI raids are 27 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: typically handled from a order perspective. Sorry, I'm not accepting 28 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: that as a valid reason why this should have happened. 29 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: If Merrick Garland had been applying any reasonable intelligence here, 30 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: he would have recognized that this is a raid unlike 31 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: any other that has ever been conducted in the history 32 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: of the United States. Former sitting president, you are raiding 33 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: a Secret Service protected location. You and I Buck have 34 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: been through mar A Lago many times. 35 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: Now. 36 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: You are in a secure location. You can't just walk 37 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: in with a gun. The only people that are armed 38 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: at mar A Lago are Secret Service agents. So when 39 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: you tell the FBI as a part of their raid 40 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: you can use deadly force if necessary, you are permitting 41 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: them to be able to kill someone during the course 42 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: of this classified document raid. And what I would say 43 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: in general is here, if Merrick Garland was truly trying 44 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: to be as safe as he possibly could, you tell me, Buck, 45 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: why do any of these FBI agents need to be 46 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: armed when they are conducting a search inside of a 47 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: Secret Service protected location, when they are notifying the Secret 48 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: Service that they are coming. The idea that you would 49 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: advise or allow or permit this in any way is crazy, 50 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: And it just feels like the FBI is actually super 51 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: fortunate that there wasn't some sort of violent act that 52 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: actually occurred. 53 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: Well a few things here. 54 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 3: One is that cops generally don't feel like cops if 55 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: they're not carrying guns. So you're not going to get 56 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 3: police or FBI or whatever to usually walk around and 57 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: do their jobs if they're not armed. The armed part 58 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: of it, I don't find. I would assume that FBI 59 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: guys are armed. The inclusion of the lethal force component 60 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: in this seems strange, and I can tell you this much. 61 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: It certainly seems strange to Donald Trump himself. He put 62 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: this out on truth Social Wow. I just came out 63 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: of the Biden witch on trial in Manhattan the Ice 64 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: Box and was showing reports that Crooked Joe Biden's DOJ 65 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: and their illegal and unconstitutional rate of mar A Lago 66 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: authorized the FBI to use deadly lethal force. Now we 67 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 3: know for sure that Joe Biden is a serious threat 68 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: to democracy. He is mentally unfit to hold off his 69 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: twenty fifth Amendment. He's straight up calling for the twenty 70 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: fifth Amendment right now, which is a very you know, 71 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 3: that's a flourish at the bottom of the truth post here. 72 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: Look the fact that they allowed this to happen at all, 73 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 3: and the way that they conducted themselves during the raid, 74 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 3: displaying out the papers in a way that was meant 75 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: to make it seem like ominous classified stuff was being found. 76 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: I mean, Clay, the abuse of the Department of Justice 77 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: that has occurred as part of the election interference from Democrats, 78 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 3: it's not just unprecedented, it's game changing. Unfortunately, I think 79 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: that we've entered into a new era in this country, 80 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: and the precedent that this has said, even if Trump wins, 81 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 3: is a very dangerous one for the next fifty years. 82 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: And I'm sure that they will have their explanations for why. 83 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 3: They'll say it was just procedure, or they'll say it's, 84 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: you know, standard or something. This wasn't a standard rate though, 85 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: Like to anybody who was involved in preparing any documents 86 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: around this, you would think that that would be very, 87 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: very bizarre for there to be this inclusion. And it's 88 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 3: just no matter what I think, a reminder of how 89 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 3: extreme this weaponization and this law fair really is. I mean, 90 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: they're treating Donald Trump like a criminal. He has not 91 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: been proven guilty of a single crime. The crimes they're 92 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: alleging he committed don't even seem like crimes to any 93 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: normal person. They're stacking the deck against him, They're holding 94 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 3: the prosecutions until the election. And all of this is 95 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 3: based on the premise that we already know that he's 96 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: the bad guy. There's no presumption of innocence for a 97 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: former and possible future president. 98 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I understated position of the FBI agents expect 99 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: to be armed. I actually think that Merrek Garland, if 100 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: he was truly paying attention as he said, and we're 101 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: about to play the audio for you, should have said, 102 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 1: FBI agents are going in unarmed here. 103 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 2: Because what is the danger? 104 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: Most all FBI raids require that you go into a 105 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: place that you probably are not aware of how secure 106 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 1: it is. Mar A Lago is one of the most 107 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: secure locations on the planet. The Secret Service is there 108 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: and they are armed I wouldn't even want them to 109 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: have weapons where this could turn into some sort of 110 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: violent endeavor. I would actually be concerned that the FBI 111 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: and the Secret Service, which they notified, that there could 112 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: be some conflict there. Now, I understand your point of 113 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: the FBI agents always want to be armed, but if 114 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: you're rating a completely secure location, I don't even understand 115 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: why you need arms. Certainly don't understand, so we can 116 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: disagree on that a little bit. I certainly don't understand 117 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: how if you're Merit Garland and you're reading this warrant 118 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: you can authorize the use of deadly force at all, 119 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: Like that language has to be taken out of the 120 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: document and you have to say there can be no 121 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: violence whatsoever against two different parts of the government as 122 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: it pertains to this Trump raid. 123 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: I would want to know, uh, what, what is the 124 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: scenario in which Merrick Garland thinks deadly force is going 125 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: to be authorized? Like one of Trump's groundskeepers is going 126 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: to grab a box of papers and make a run 127 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: for it to one of the yachts park nearby mar 128 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: A Lago, and they're gonna have to just take him down. 129 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: First of all, they wouldn't be authorized under normal circumstances 130 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: to shoot him there. Well under under what you know, 131 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: under what possibility could you see lethal force as justified 132 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: given the dynamics of this raid at Mar A Lago, 133 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Point on even having the 134 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: market is crazy. Well, but I'm I mean, the cops 135 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: are armed. You know, they're pretty much armed all the time, right, 136 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: I mean, they think, but. 137 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: They never raided the former president of the United States 138 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: behind Secret Service protected venues, So I understand, like usually 139 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: you're going in where there could be danger buck what 140 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: would have been now they tried to make. 141 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: Their arguments for them, They would say, what if there 142 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: was a threat to the president and we're FBI guys 143 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: and we weren't armed, and we couldn't step in and help. 144 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, trust me, they'll have a million 145 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: ways to expect. Whether service is there is why I'm 146 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: coming back to it. But what would have happened They 147 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: tried to time this raid so Trump wasn't there. What 148 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 3: if somebody was there in the family and just refused access. 149 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: What if Milania had been there and she doesn't want 150 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: her underwear drawer getting raided and she just stands there 151 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: and says no, and listen to America. 152 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: This is all so much of the problems that you 153 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: find yourself in are a function of all of the 154 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: choices that you make. And Merrick Garland, basically he's hired 155 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: for his judgment. The fact that he would sign off 156 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: on this raid, I think is indefensible. The fact that 157 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: he would sign off on an arm with a ability 158 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: to use deadly force is indefensible. And if you're out 159 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: there saying, well, Merrick Garland wasn't really involved in this, 160 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: he came out and said he specifically approved this decision. 161 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: Listen to Cut twenty two. 162 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:19,479 Speaker 4: Federal law, long standing department rules, and our ethical obligations 163 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 4: prevent me from providing further details as to the basis 164 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: of the search at this time. There are, however, certain 165 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 4: points I want you to know. First, I personally approved 166 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 4: the decision to seek a search warrant in this matter. Second, 167 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 4: the Department does not take such a decision lightly. Where possible, 168 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: it is standard practice to seek less intrusive means as 169 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 4: an alternative to a search, and to narrowly scope any 170 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 4: search that is undertaken. 171 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: I just I look at this and I already knew, 172 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: and I think you did two buck that the rig 173 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: job was in here. But the more details that come 174 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: out in this Eileen Canon case down in South Florida, 175 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: the more of a c set up this becomes. And 176 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: she's just basically applying the law pretty evenly, it seems 177 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: to me, and every one of these filings, and we'll 178 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: talk with Julie Kelly about this next hour, makes this 179 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: look more outrageous than it already did. And in August 180 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: to twenty two, when this happened, you and I came 181 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: on and said this is outrageous. It's actually becoming more 182 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: indefensible as we get more and more details associated with 183 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: this rate. I don't think the Democrats who are behind 184 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: all of this anticipated what's happening. And I think you 185 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: can see this from the data around independence. In a 186 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: lot of places across the country, not just in the 187 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: Swing States, this is increasingly seen as a meaning the 188 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: stuff they are doing to Trump is so unacceptable out 189 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: of bounds, offsides, you know, all that stuff, that it 190 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: alone becomes an entirely reasonable explanation for a vote for 191 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: Donald Trump to be president again, because otherwise this wins. Otherwise, 192 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: this is acceptable what has gone on here, and so 193 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, we could talk about the economy and the 194 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: wide open border, and we do all these other things. 195 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: When you look at it from a cost benefit analysis 196 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: of a Trump presidency versus a Biden presidency, Trump is 197 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: clearly better, right. But I'm saying this has now created 198 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: almost a solo issue or a single issue voter paradigm 199 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: where if you don't want this to be a third 200 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: world joke of a country where elections are rigged by 201 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: the prosecutor's office, you vote for Donald Trump. I don't 202 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: think they anticipated that that feeling is out there as 203 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: strongly as it is. Can you imagine? And I do 204 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: think it's important to try to apply principle and precedent 205 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: and contemplate it. If Trump had authorized the FBI to 206 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: have an armed raid, using deadly force when necessary, of 207 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: Barack Obama's personal residents to try to go get classified 208 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: documents that he believed or store there, the media would 209 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: have I mean, he would have been impeached. I don't 210 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: think there's any doubt at all he would have been 211 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: impeached for this. There would have. 212 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: Been an impeach and removed, impeached and removed. I think 213 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: Republicans would go along with it. I think he actually 214 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: would have been taken out of office. 215 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: I hope you're wrong, because I would like to think 216 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: that Republicans would be you wouldn't get to sixty seven 217 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: in the Senate. 218 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: But you may well be right. 219 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: I Trump ordered a raid on Obama's house, a lot 220 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: of Republicans would go I'm telling you a lot of 221 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: Republicans would go along with it. We don't fight dirty 222 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 3: the way they do. 223 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: And the point here is this thing is really trying 224 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: to get snowed under. A lot of people are saying, well, 225 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: this is standard FBI operating procedure, that's not a big deal. Well, 226 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: you're raiding the former president's home for the first time 227 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: in two hundred and fifty years, and the sitting president 228 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: is effectively signing off on it through his department, his 229 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: attorney general, who specifically said he approved every aspect of 230 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: this raid. It was on his desk, This was his decision. 231 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: Just think about what the reaction would be. Trump has 232 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: a call to Ukraine and he gets impeached over it. 233 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: Imagine if he had rated Obama. 234 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 3: The other part of this is, and I can speak 235 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 3: with some familiarity because I mean, I've seen for years 236 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: I saw what was going into the Presidential Daily Briefing 237 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: on a rock stuff, on a whole range of things. 238 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: I doubt very much that the information that Trump has 239 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: that they're so worried about, a normal person would look 240 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: at and say, oh my gosh, if our enemies got this, 241 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: then we'd really be screwed, Like right, I think. I mean, 242 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: there's and anyone who has any familiarity with the classification system. Again, 243 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: it's different because he's a president. He's allowed to say 244 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 3: this is declassified. He can do what we used to 245 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: call in the CIA real time declassification. If the president 246 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: goes on TV and says, guys, you know, you know, 247 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 3: we just did an air strike five minutes ago. It 248 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 3: was a black op and now I'm telling you about it. 249 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: You're not locking him up. He's a commander chief. You 250 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 3: can talk about wherever he wants, right, So it's different 251 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: for a president. The rules for classified information are different. 252 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: And that's where I think there's a little bit of 253 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: some legal back and forth that needs to be hashed 254 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: out a little bit like the presidential immunity thing. But 255 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 3: to act like this is some imminent national security threat 256 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: that there were some boxes under lock and Key at 257 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: mar A Lago and like maybe the bad guys we're 258 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: going to get this and there, you know, and then 259 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: the terrorists would win. It's entirely disingenuous. And I think 260 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: this is also why they're never going to get this 261 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: case through because you know, the Florida case, because they're 262 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: never going to show the public. If it's so classified, 263 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: they can't show the public, and the public is not 264 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: going to take their word for it if they refuse 265 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: to show what these documents were that they wanted so badly, 266 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: So the whole thing ends up falling apart, and then 267 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: you're going to try to get on an obstruction charge. 268 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: I Clay, I think it's very hard to convince people 269 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 3: that a former president is engaged in criminal obstruction when 270 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: his lawyers are going back and forth with the National 271 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: Archives for months. 272 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like this is just not 273 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: anyway the whole thing. 274 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: But this brings me back to people voting for Trump 275 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: just because they want to nullify the law fair effort, 276 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: and I think. 277 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: That that is growing out there, especially give then what 278 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: we've seen in New York City. 279 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: All look, we're all doing double takes these days on 280 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: price tags at the grocery store, the pump, even when 281 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: ordering fast food. 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I'll lay something out, Clay. 310 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: I did a little fun poll before, like worst person 311 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: is it Fauci, James Comy, Michael Cohen or Bragg the 312 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: district attorney, and uh oh that's a good poll. 313 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, Fauci crushed. 314 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I bet everybody like not even 315 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: close out. 316 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: The Fouch is the worst. And you guys are right, 317 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: Fouch is the worst. That is true. 318 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: But I bring it up because James Comy is now 319 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: making the rounds, the guy who was begging Trump to 320 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: keep him on and trying to suck up to him 321 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: and now has made a career of Trump is going 322 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 3: to destroy our republican, our democracy. This is kind of 323 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: a funny one. You'll hear more of this too. You 324 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 3: can hear from him, will play the clip. But Clay, 325 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: he's worried that if Trump wins, maybe he'll abuse the 326 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 3: DOJ to go after his political enemy. Oh my goodness, right, 327 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 3: they say that just doing that daring to They say 328 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 3: this without irony. 329 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 2: They say this, like, guys, you know what could happen 330 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: if Trump is president? 331 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: I mean he could start having the DOJ prosecute political rivals. 332 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: And we're all looking at them like what is wrong 333 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: with you? Libs? Like how what world are you living in? 334 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: Even Bill Maher, who I like and think is pretty smart, 335 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: has gotten kind of wrecked as he's going around doing 336 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: his show. 337 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: He believes about that too, And I've got a lot 338 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: of thoughts on that. I've I've dealt with Bill before 339 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 3: a couple of times. We'll discuss this. 340 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: You know. 341 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: My friend Porter Stansbury has an amazing new documentary that 342 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 3: is making huge calls about the future of the markets. 343 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: I mean all the markets, housing stock. 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Last Election Plot dot 357 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: com paid for by Porter and Company. 358 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show couple of 359 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: clips from our friends over on the View. I shouldn't 360 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: Bill Maher a little bit earlier, And you said you 361 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: have a take on Bill Maher. He's on the I 362 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: would say, the media circuit promoting a book that I 363 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: believe he had come out this week. And I want 364 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: to play a couple of things. First of all, Joy Behar, 365 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: who is I think the dumbest person who appears on 366 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: television on a daily basis in America. 367 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: Joy Behar, she's number one. 368 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: Really, number would you put on the dumber list than 369 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: Joy Behar? I have to think about it, but number 370 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: one is a strong I mean that's a strong statement. 371 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: I think she was probably probably a pretty good stand 372 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: up comedian in her day. Didn't you do comedy? 373 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: Yes? 374 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean she's eighty now and so I'm sure she's 375 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: lost her fastball to a large extent, but she regular well, 376 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: sunny hoston is up there. I mean, this is the 377 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: dumbest show. The only competition I think she would have 378 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: is inside of her show itself. But here's Joy Behar saying, 379 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: people who wear Maga hats they should just go ahead 380 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: and put swastikas on them. 381 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 6: And by the way out there, that hat that you 382 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 6: keep wearing, that red hat that says make America great again, 383 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 6: that tells people then you go along with this, So 384 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 6: Michael just put a swastiker on the hat that. 385 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: Because we see it anyway, all right? 386 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: I think that was Alyssa far Griffin saying, don't do that. 387 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: Bill Maher was on with Joy Behar, and Behar was 388 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: interesting here because she said she holds back her criticism 389 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden, and uh, well, let's play first this 390 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: Bill Maher says, Biden is basically a walking dead man. 391 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 7: Listen, Biden just presents as old. It's not really fair, no, 392 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 7: because he's almost the same age. Trump is almost the 393 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 7: same age as him. But Trump doesn't present that way. 394 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 7: You know, you look at somebody right away, you can 395 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 7: kind of just sum them up. I mean, we are 396 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 7: not young, but we don't present as old. Yeah, Biden does. 397 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 7: I saw him yesterday making that speech. I mean, I'm sorry, 398 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 7: he's goodover. 399 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: Like, but his brain is good. 400 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 6: He's still great. 401 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: His brain is good. He's still great. That's what they 402 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: tried to do. And then here's one more cutbuck. Joey 403 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: Bahar said, yeah, you know, I don't really criticize Biden 404 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: because as yeah, she's a Democrat. Listen to cut three. 405 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 6: I'm nervous about saying anything against Biden because I feel, 406 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 6: you know, not that I have so much power and 407 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 6: you have some of them than I do, obviously, but 408 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 6: are you afraid that you might you know, influment it 409 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 6: so the people. 410 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 7: Who are on the fence, I think he lose all credibility. 411 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 7: I do. My bond with my audience has always been 412 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 7: I don't pull a punch. 413 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 6: Yeah. 414 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 7: My bond with my audience is you're not going to 415 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 7: like everything I say, but you know I'm saying what 416 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 7: I really think is true. 417 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: Okay, you've been on the show before. I've been disappointed 418 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: in mar I saw him get lit up by Megan Kelly. 419 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: He's got a lot of people who can make sure 420 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: that he's got facts right. He, for instance, still believes 421 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: that cops were murdered during January sixth. That's a big 422 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: lie that is out there, the very fine people hoax. 423 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: He has gone on this tour and I think he 424 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: said Hillary didn't didn't deny the election. He's still somewhat 425 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: in that left wing bubble. Even though I agree with 426 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: some of the things he said. Factually he's wrong on 427 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: many things. 428 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: Still, Yeah, well, this is my my irritation with a 429 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: lot of the i't know, I don't know what you'd 430 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: call them, the dissidents from the left, the people, the 431 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 3: apostates maybe from the left, people who have been staunch 432 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: left wing Democrats in some cases their whole lives, but 433 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 3: certainly for the last let's say a decade or so, 434 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: and then when there's like this opening for them to 435 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 3: create a new space maybe to reach a new audience. 436 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 3: They always take this approach of well, I still think 437 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 3: the right is crazy, but I don't agree with my 438 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 3: side on everything, and I kind of look at them 439 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: and I want to say, like, I want to say 440 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 3: this to Bill Maher. Your side has been wrong monumentally 441 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 3: about pretty much everything for the last seven or now 442 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 3: eight years in the Trump era. How about a I'm sorry, 443 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 3: you guys were right. You know, I think there's a 444 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: lack of humility, Like I don't think you get to 445 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: create the fire, and then when the fire is blazing 446 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: beyond your own control and it's gonna burn your house down, 447 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 3: on everyone's house down, you get to say, oh. 448 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 2: I don't know about this fire. I think it's time 449 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 2: for us to get some buckets of water. 450 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, he helped create the lunatic 451 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: Democrat party that we see, and that's where I would 452 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: push him. 453 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: I remember doing his show before COVID, and it was 454 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: all Trump's gonna murder everybody. 455 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 3: In fact, the problem I have with Trump on COVID 456 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 3: was he did exactly what the experts told him to 457 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 3: do in the first few months. Now I'm not yet, 458 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to re litigate there's not the right 459 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 3: decision for him or not that is in retrospect, it 460 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 3: wasn't correct. I mean you can blame him or not 461 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 3: blame him for it. But they were all saying the 462 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: same thing. Trump doesn't care all he cares abouts being rich. 463 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 3: And I had to sit there while these idiots, I 464 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 3: mean just apps. I don't even remember who's on that panel, 465 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 3: sheer morons or. 466 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: Like Trump's gonna murder everybody. He doesn't care about anything, 467 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: and everyone's all freaked out about COVID. 468 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 3: So he helped fan those flames, like he helped create 469 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: this and now he goes around it's what is a 470 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 3: book tour, right, Yeah, and he. 471 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: Wants to tell us he should be. 472 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 3: I mean, we'll invite him on the show, by the way, 473 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 3: he should say, you guys have been right about immigration, 474 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 3: about the gender nonsense, about COVID, about I mean, go 475 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 3: to about Russia. Well, actually know he's still a Russia 476 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: collusion truther. I mean he's a climate change truther too, 477 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 3: by the way. I mean, he's one of these people 478 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 3: that still adheres to these just bizarre liberal fantasies, but 479 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: on the ones where he agrees with us it's like, well, 480 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 3: my side's crazy, but I still don't like those terrible 481 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: maga Republicans. Maybe be a little more humble and say, wow, 482 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: why were they right on all those things? Do you 483 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Clay, that's the ticket that I 484 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 3: find frustrated. 485 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: I think he's a little bit held hostage by the 486 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: show that he does in La. 487 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 2: You've been on that show. 488 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 3: They are VeryE of the dumbest audiences you will find 489 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 3: for any medium of media. On the I mean the 490 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: live audience. You could not find more dogmatic left wing 491 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 3: loans anywhere. 492 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: In his defense, we've talked about this, it's one of 493 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: the few areas where people with differing opinions actually come 494 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: on and talk. And I I think his fear if 495 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: he were being one hundred percent honest with us is 496 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: if he admits all the things that you said, which 497 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: I think are important and are true, he might not 498 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 1: be able to get left wing guests to come on 499 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: his show anymore. And I think that's why he's trying 500 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: to play both sides. 501 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: Of the lie. Is what I mean. 502 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 3: Don't tell us you're a hero and you want to 503 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: speak the truth, but then you're worried about your crazy 504 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 3: LIB guests not coming on your show because he's you know, 505 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: because you're pulling back. I think I think he is 506 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 3: pulling back. He's actually he is a he is smarter 507 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 3: than most of the LIB commentariat. 508 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: He is. 509 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 3: He is higher IQ and more reasonable. He can be 510 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 3: more reasonable than most of them. But he is still 511 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: playing both sides a little bit. Look the guys, he's 512 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 3: older than he looks bout. I think he's in his 513 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 3: almost seventy Yeah, he is almost seventy years old. He 514 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 3: guy's making ten million dollars a year. He's been making 515 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: ten million dollars a year for a long time. No 516 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 3: kids yet, I'm guessing, but I mean he's you google it. 517 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 3: I'm sure it's about that. And you know, once he 518 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 3: got to lose other than just speak the absolute truth. 519 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 3: So he says he's speaking the truth. But no, I 520 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 3: mean he should say to his audience, you know, you 521 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 3: guys who were all listening to the science and Fauci 522 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 3: are a bunch of morons. The right wingers that you mocked, 523 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 3: they were all correct. We should think about this a 524 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: little bit. Why were you all so wrong? He will 525 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 3: never say that, though. 526 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: I also believe that his criticism of Trump is the 527 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: way that he maintains his bonafides with the left. 528 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 3: Well, I think he has a personal This is also 529 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 3: a thing with Scarborough. There is legitimate personal animosity. Yeah, 530 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 3: Trump sued you remember this, He sued Bill for five 531 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 3: million dollars. Yes, I remember that. I was reading Past Weekend. Yeah, 532 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: it's very funny because I mean, I don't actually think 533 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 3: this is a funny joke that Bill marmad I think 534 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 3: it's funny that there's a lawsuit over it. 535 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: That he said that Trump was related to an orangutang. 536 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean that was the and if you could 537 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: prove that he wasn't, he would give you five million dollars. 538 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: And so Trump, which is actually very funny. I think 539 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: the Trump response was, here's my birth certificate. My mom 540 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: and dad are humans. I'm not in orangutating. You owe 541 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: me five million dollars. 542 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 3: Now, I just feel like a lot of these people 543 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 3: that are that are that are from the dissident left, 544 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: and even some of what they used to call like 545 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 3: the intellectual dark Web, are they. 546 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: Really with us? 547 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 3: Because their entire foundational philosophy is wrong. You know, It's 548 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 3: not like pick and choose I'm a little wrong here, 549 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 3: I'm a little wrong there. The left is an emotionally driven, 550 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: godless cult and they're wrong about everything of importance in 551 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 3: human society and civilization. And they can either recognize that 552 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 3: and come over into the truth, light and justice or not. 553 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 3: But I don't like this one foot in, one foot 554 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 3: out nonsense. 555 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think it's the way I agree, 556 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: and I'm less troubled by the one foot in, one 557 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: foot out because I agree with you. 558 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: I would rather somebody just own it. 559 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: But I think the reason he's trying to do that 560 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: is he's doing a show in la and he's trying 561 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,959 Speaker 1: to maintain his ability to get liberal guests. My biggest 562 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: issue is he should never get a factor wrong. Thinking 563 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: that there were cops murder on January sixth, to me, 564 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: is such a fundamental failing of his job, which is 565 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: that that's a that's a basic fact. 566 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 3: That you want me to play live for a second, 567 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 3: because I can play live and tell you how they 568 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: because I've come across this. Remember I've hosted shows with 569 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 3: leftists before right for years, for years of my life. 570 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 3: I know what they really think and how they operate. 571 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 3: They'll say well, no, I mean it's it's uh the 572 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: murder again, I'm speaking as a live I have to 573 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 3: do a weird voice. 574 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: They'd be like, excuse me, sir, excuse me. Uh no. 575 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 3: But what they would say is that the stress of 576 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: January six caused the heart attack and so effectively it's like, 577 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: you know, like an involuntary mans and I get that, 578 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 3: but that's different than saying people died at the Capitol 579 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: on January sixth. 580 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: Who were. 581 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 3: Which is where to say? This is what we wiggle 582 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 3: room on it. They create this thing of oh, well, 583 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 3: you know the heart attack was caused by right, right, Okay. 584 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: But so the Ashley Babbitt thing, I think still blows 585 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people's mind, as does the very Fine 586 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: People hoax that is totally blown up. There's a lot 587 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: of things. 588 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 3: That people believe or I mean, yes, I'm very prolongedfied 589 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: thing as everybody knows here. I mean, i've law enforcement 590 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 3: in my career, patrol officer, basically my family and I 591 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: I look at that video and we all see what happened. 592 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: Ashley Babbitt was murdered. 593 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: I mean that guy freaked out and shot somebody who 594 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: did not pose in him in a threat. And if 595 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: that was this, if that was the standard for lethal force, 596 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 3: I mean, you would have had thousands of bodies at 597 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 3: the BLM protests where people were attacking officers doing all 598 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: kinds of things. And this notion that, you know, and 599 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: and if it was such an imminent threat that the 600 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: mob was going to break in and and harm all 601 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 3: these members of Congress, then why didn't all the other 602 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 3: officers open up? Why didn't they all open fire? If 603 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 3: it was that clear, right, only one guy shoots one person, 604 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: a woman, He freaked out and he killed her, and 605 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 3: it should have been treated as a manslaughter, and it wasn't. 606 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: And we all know why because they can they command 607 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 3: the judiciary in DC and the media and the Democrat 608 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 3: Party is ruthless. I mean, I think it's all pretty 609 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 3: That would have also changed the total narrative. If there 610 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 3: had been an investigation into the murder of an innocent veteran, 611 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: people would have started to ask questions, how did this happen? 612 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: Who he probably, as part of his defense, might well 613 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: have defended by saying, Hey, the failure of the National 614 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 3: Guard to be there, the failure of there to be 615 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 3: more barricade set up all those things that would be 616 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: a part of his defense, and it would really put 617 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 3: the system of protection on trial that day, which is 618 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 3: very different than what they want to talk about. Yeah, 619 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 3: and in fact, he effectively shot into a crowd. I mean, 620 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 3: think about the rules of engagement. Now you have a 621 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 3: rowdy crowd. Look, it was a riot, and there are 622 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: people who were doing some ill advised and illegal things. 623 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: But you don't open fire. You open fire, you're just 624 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 3: going to have like a tienm N Square situation. You're 625 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: going to kill a whole bunch of people. That guy 626 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 3: opened fire. I mean, it's I think you're right. It's 627 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: very clear why the narrative was shaped the way that 628 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 3: it was. But when you look at the fact that 629 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 3: people are still saying comps are murdered on January sixth, 630 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: I mean that goes to the depth of the propaganda. 631 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 3: And look, you know, Bill's had me on his show, 632 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 3: which I do appreciate. Whenever somebody has me on the show, 633 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 3: I would go back on the show. I would be 634 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: less polite to his idiot lib guests than I have 635 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 3: been in the past. Although it's hard because you're getting 636 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 3: booed the whole time. It's always people always think that 637 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 3: go in there and be the hero when you're one 638 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 3: against four and you're gonna get booed by the audience. 639 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: I don't care who you think it is. It's tough 640 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 3: because you can't talk that much. And when three people 641 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: all pile on you and say, look what he shout 642 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 3: is dumb, and the audience is like, yeah, it doesn't 643 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: matter if you're the second coming. 644 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: Of William F. 645 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 3: Buckley or whatever, like, you're not going to be able 646 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 3: to fight through that noise. 647 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: An entire generation of kids are growing up today knowing 648 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: little than nothing about our nation's darkest day. September eleven, 649 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and one. That's the day we're attacked. Nine 650 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy seven people killed. Twenty three years later, 651 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: more than eighty thousand people are still suffering with nine 652 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: to eleven related illnesses that continue to take lives. 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That's t the number two t dot org. 666 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 5: Twenty Clay and Bucks Weekly Campaign Cliff Notes episodes dropped 667 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 5: Sundays at noon Eastern on the free iHeartRadio app or 668 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 5: wherever you get your podcasts. 669 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back into Clay and Buff We're gonna 670 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 3: talk to Julie Kelly here in a few minutes about 671 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: the lethal Force order or lethal force rules of engagement. 672 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 3: I should say in the warrant for the mar Lago raid. 673 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 3: She broke that story yesterday. I got a huge amount 674 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 3: of attention. Julie Kelly will be with us on that 675 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 3: and more. But also I wanted to hand the floor 676 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 3: over to Clay for a minute. 677 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 678 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: Look, first of all, excited to talk with Julie. I 679 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: want to say something. At the last three or four weeks, 680 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: thanks to the crew here on the studio, we've been 681 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: moving around a lot in the Travis household because my 682 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: step father in law passed away on Saturday. Name's Larry Kornaki, 683 00:33:55,120 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: lifelong Michigander, amazing guy, seventy eight years old, served in 684 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: the military during Vietnam. Is a business owner in Southeast Michigan. 685 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: Has owned his business, his food production business for decades. 686 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: I say stepfather in law, It's not really accurate because 687 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: for me personally, I think I have two great father 688 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 1: in laws, both of whom are Michiganders. Up in Southeast Michigan. 689 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 1: He'd been married to my wife's mom for twenty five years. 690 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: I've been married in August for twenty years, so the 691 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: minute I met him, we were already I've only known 692 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: him as a father in law. And he had a 693 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: stroke about three and a half weeks ago. He had 694 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 1: moved to East Tennessee to live on the lake there 695 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: while still managing a lot of his business interests back 696 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: in Michigan and so we've been going back and forth 697 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: a lot with that. Didn't want to say he runs 698 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: a business, wanted to make sure that everybody was taken 699 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: care of. Theirs got over one hundred employees, it's thriving, 700 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: it's doing well in Southeast Michigan. But for me personally, 701 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: credible grandfather to my three boys. He's got seven grandsons, 702 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: which is really pretty remarkable to think about across his family. 703 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: We were in the hotel, we were in the hospital 704 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: room as he passed on Saturday, the three boys, me, 705 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: friend's family surrounding him. But personally, I don't know that 706 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 1: I would have a media career if it weren't for him. 707 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: Right now, I don't know that any of you would 708 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 1: be listening to me because if you work in media 709 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: and Buck, I know you've experienced this. You can get 710 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: fired at any moment. It's really hard to make a 711 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: living in this industry, particularly when you start off. I 712 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: got fired in January of twenty eleven along with about 713 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 1: one hundred other people on a website called FanHouse, and Larry, 714 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: who had owned a small business his entire life, told me, hey, 715 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: don't let anybody else basically control your future. Start your 716 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: own business. I started out kick. I wouldn't have done 717 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: it without his encouragement. I don't think I would be 718 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: sitting here talking to all of you without his encouragement. 719 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: So for everybody out there, I know there are many 720 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: different types of families everywhere, try to be that force 721 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: of positivity in your household, even if you're not blood 722 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: related to people. The difference that you can make in 723 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: someone else's life is so tremendous. I wouldn't be here 724 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: without Larry. I wanted to say thank you to all 725 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: of the Larry's across this entire listenership. I know that 726 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: many of you have people who have done for you 727 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: what he did for me. He'll be deeply missed. I 728 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: thank all of you in advance for the condolences and 729 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: everything else, but I just want to encourage you to 730 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: be the positive force in someone's life and help them 731 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: get to the proverbial next level in their own way 732 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: like he did for me. 733 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 2: Appreciate y'all. We'll be back next with Julie Kelly.