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Speaker 3: The World's of Vigeonal podcast. Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. And

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at the schedule. I see more wins on

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Speaker 3: the horizons.

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Speaker 4: Six and one are saying.

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Speaker 3: But I think even that last game against the Bills,

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Speaker 3: if they're not playing for anything, that could be a win.

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Speaker 5: At home, that could be playing for the division.

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Speaker 3: Again, let's just get crazy and say they do start

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Speaker 3: rattling off wins. Isn't that so much better for the Evans?

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Speaker 4: Don't you like to see them win?

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Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 6: The priority for the off season for me is you

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Speaker 6: gotta find a good edge you can play every single down.

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Speaker 4: A really good edge rusher who can play well on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, bo Polini hated us.

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Speaker 4: The whole paper is just one big critique.

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Speaker 3: Which which was like, I was like, what did I

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Speaker 3: get so wrong?

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Speaker 4: You know, especially in those days, right, I was.

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Speaker 3: Still on board in those days when Evans said to Paul,

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Speaker 3: let me finish when he was making a point, I

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Speaker 3: took that as growth on Evan's part. And do love

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Speaker 3: it when he asserts himself with Barthy on catch twenty two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes you have to tell Bart to go sit

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here

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Speaker 3: at ji Let's Stadium. It's Paul, it's me, it's Matt,

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Speaker 3: and the booth will be joined later by Evan and Deuce.

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Speaker 3: They've got their locker room duties right now, and then

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Speaker 3: Evan will be going out in the in the cold.

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Speaker 4: It's not happy about it, no, not happy about it.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 3: So so let's tell this story. In order to get

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Speaker 3: from where Evan and Paul work to the media workroom,

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Speaker 3: you have to two routes. You can either go outside

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Speaker 3: lately the weather's been really nice around beautiful, so the

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Speaker 3: guys have been going outside and you know, they were like, oh, Evan,

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Speaker 3: go outside. Evan's like, he can't have it because it's

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Speaker 4: He by himself.

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Speaker 3: So all of a sudden, Evan's obsessed with the web.

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Speaker 4: So Mike, Tamara and myself all just walked from me

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Speaker 4: to give him crap about that when he gets here,

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Speaker 4: well then he's got to go out to practice, right.

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Speaker 3: But it is a little it is it's a little chili.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so uh, bundle up a little bit now.

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Speaker 3: It's brisk anyway. So that's that's your daily weather report.

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Speaker 4: Could be good for you know, for Sunday. I don't

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Speaker 4: So I think that's the message. Hunter Henry came out,

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Speaker 4: I think we think reserves, but.

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Speaker 3: Somebody's somebody's been doing a good job with this kid,

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, you know, Gerard as a friend of the program.

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Speaker 3: And he was talking so different than it's been.

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Speaker 4: You know, And they asked him a very pointed question

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Speaker 4: They didn't move the ball, and they didn't score points

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just you know, I'm not telling you that

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Speaker 4: like I listen, they're at the bottom. Yeah, Mike and

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Speaker 3: But I can tell you one thing. If if Drake

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Speaker 4: Be about twenty ninth. No, I did it yesterday, so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but all those games with Brissette would have been

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Speaker 4: I'm just telling you the five games.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing the Oh, you're just doing the five game.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's worth it's been worth about another three and

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Speaker 3: No, No, but what I'm saying in.

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Speaker 4: About in about another sixty yards.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you add in if Drake had been

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Speaker 4: He'd be playing better.

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Speaker 3: He'd have been playing better by now, and I think

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Speaker 4: Much like you convinced me on the offensive lineman argument

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Speaker 3: Of those games were don't make mistakes, so he wasn't

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Speaker 4: And that's why I said, I'm guilty of making a

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Speaker 4: Commanders Eagles on Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: Huh, what's that?

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Speaker 4: Commander's Eagles Thursday night?

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Speaker 3: A rare division game that you like?

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Speaker 4: A rare division game on Thursday nights?

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Speaker 8: You have?

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Speaker 4: Do you ever see any of those?

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Speaker 4: Is that right? They're all They're all division I know,

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Speaker 4: Well, I just I like I like matchups like this

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Speaker 4: I used to like interleague play, but now every team

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Speaker 3: Now it's not special, it's a deal anymore.

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Speaker 4: But I would rather see Yeah, I'd rather see the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so you like the You like the

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Speaker 4: You know, it's a bloodbath.

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Speaker 4: Right, Like I just I've seen I see that twice

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Speaker 3: All right, So so getting back to the Patriots, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And I don't think they did last year either that

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Speaker 3: How can I? But I do think this game is winnable,

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Speaker 4: So is there a game that you don't think is winnable?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because the other team could always not play well,

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Speaker 4: Okay, So why do you think that?

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Speaker 3: Right, So, I don't know. I just get the sense

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: as much as we love watching him run, we need

438
00:21:11,474 --> 00:21:16,434
Speaker 3: to see the offense, you know, perform as it's drawn up.

439
00:21:17,073 --> 00:21:19,273
Speaker 4: Byron Young is the second year guy that I was

440
00:21:19,313 --> 00:21:22,194
Speaker 4: thinking of off the edge. Yeah, he's he's played pretty

441
00:21:22,234 --> 00:21:24,553
Speaker 4: well too. They're they're coming into their own. They've had

442
00:21:24,593 --> 00:21:27,553
Speaker 4: some injuries and some of those guys up front are

443
00:21:27,553 --> 00:21:31,953
Speaker 4: coming back. This will be a tough game unless the rims,

444
00:21:32,954 --> 00:21:37,714
Speaker 4: you know, just completely lay an egg, which could happen, Yes, Chigo,

445
00:21:37,874 --> 00:21:43,074
Speaker 4: just did you know these things happen? But they have. Yeah,

446
00:21:43,073 --> 00:21:46,313
Speaker 4: I don't have the latest update here. Yeah. Five five

447
00:21:46,394 --> 00:21:50,633
Speaker 4: sacks for Turner, five sacks for Young, four sacks for Verse,

448
00:21:51,593 --> 00:21:55,273
Speaker 4: three sacks for Fisk, three for Hay. They have like

449
00:21:55,353 --> 00:21:56,793
Speaker 4: five five guys.

450
00:21:56,513 --> 00:21:57,434
Speaker 3: With three or more sacks.

451
00:21:57,434 --> 00:21:59,873
Speaker 4: That's a lot. Yeah, But I don't think it's a

452
00:21:59,874 --> 00:22:02,673
Speaker 4: team that's necessarily built on well, we're just gonna they

453
00:22:02,674 --> 00:22:04,553
Speaker 4: don't have Aaron Donald's, let's put it that way.

454
00:22:05,634 --> 00:22:09,754
Speaker 3: I think when you have a creative offensive coordinator slash

455
00:22:09,793 --> 00:22:14,273
Speaker 3: coach like mcvey's, I think that trickles down to the defense.

456
00:22:14,793 --> 00:22:17,513
Speaker 3: You know, some of that creativity kind of rubs off,

457
00:22:17,553 --> 00:22:20,474
Speaker 3: and I think that's what you see in the distribution

458
00:22:20,634 --> 00:22:23,593
Speaker 3: of the pressure. You know, they probably dial up things

459
00:22:23,634 --> 00:22:26,074
Speaker 3: and bring it from different areas. You know, have been

460
00:22:26,194 --> 00:22:27,754
Speaker 3: relatively successful doing that.

461
00:22:28,073 --> 00:22:29,754
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they've been able to create the way the

462
00:22:29,793 --> 00:22:33,194
Speaker 4: secondary is not like statistically has not been good. But

463
00:22:33,234 --> 00:22:35,634
Speaker 4: they do take the ball away a little bit. Yeah,

464
00:22:35,674 --> 00:22:38,834
Speaker 4: so again I'm going to protect the ball.

465
00:22:38,954 --> 00:22:40,353
Speaker 3: So on the other side of the ball, you know,

466
00:22:40,674 --> 00:22:42,553
Speaker 3: I think it was a great game for a lot

467
00:22:42,553 --> 00:22:47,313
Speaker 3: of you know, second, you know, guys that didn't start

468
00:22:47,353 --> 00:22:49,714
Speaker 3: this season as starters and have been thrust in that

469
00:22:49,793 --> 00:22:52,994
Speaker 3: position for the Patriots. The question is is it wasn't real?

470
00:22:53,434 --> 00:22:56,754
Speaker 3: How much of it was the Bears? You know? And

471
00:22:56,833 --> 00:22:59,474
Speaker 3: I think this is a great test for that because

472
00:22:59,634 --> 00:23:03,513
Speaker 3: you're gonna be stressed. They've got the Rams have talent

473
00:23:03,634 --> 00:23:07,234
Speaker 3: in different areas, so it's not like you can just

474
00:23:07,273 --> 00:23:11,234
Speaker 3: take out one guy and okay, now the offense collapses. No,

475
00:23:11,634 --> 00:23:14,593
Speaker 3: They've got a lot of talent in different areas. So

476
00:23:14,714 --> 00:23:18,113
Speaker 3: if the defense can come close to last week's performance,

477
00:23:18,313 --> 00:23:19,354
Speaker 3: I mean that's what I do.

478
00:23:19,434 --> 00:23:21,633
Speaker 4: I do agree with you in that it's winnable because

479
00:23:21,714 --> 00:23:23,914
Speaker 4: I don't think the Rams are quite there yet. Yeah,

480
00:23:23,954 --> 00:23:26,553
Speaker 4: Like I think that they've they've done a good job

481
00:23:26,634 --> 00:23:29,674
Speaker 4: I think of rebuilding on the fly, and they've really

482
00:23:29,674 --> 00:23:31,714
Speaker 4: turned over the defense. But I don't think it's a

483
00:23:31,754 --> 00:23:33,474
Speaker 4: team that you just look at and say, well, you know,

484
00:23:34,114 --> 00:23:36,314
Speaker 4: they're going to win this game, They're going to win

485
00:23:36,394 --> 00:23:38,593
Speaker 4: that game. You know, they were life and death with

486
00:23:38,634 --> 00:23:41,154
Speaker 4: the Raiders a few weeks back. Yea, you know, they've

487
00:23:41,194 --> 00:23:46,754
Speaker 4: had some they've played better, but they've also struggled that record.

488
00:23:46,833 --> 00:23:48,354
Speaker 4: Now four and five, four.

489
00:23:48,273 --> 00:23:50,673
Speaker 3: And five, I mean that's who they are, right, you know?

490
00:23:51,114 --> 00:23:54,874
Speaker 4: Now? They are that because of the mass of injuries

491
00:23:54,874 --> 00:23:56,674
Speaker 4: they had in the first month and a half. I

492
00:23:56,714 --> 00:23:58,754
Speaker 4: mean they played some of those games with literally no

493
00:23:58,793 --> 00:24:01,193
Speaker 4: they were one in four because nobody was. I mean,

494
00:24:01,234 --> 00:24:02,793
Speaker 4: they had like three linemen.

495
00:24:02,874 --> 00:24:05,474
Speaker 3: Two receivers for injuries. No.

496
00:24:05,553 --> 00:24:08,914
Speaker 4: I'm just like, but when those guys came back, they won.

497
00:24:10,833 --> 00:24:15,073
Speaker 4: That's like, to me, that's the difference. When their personnel

498
00:24:15,154 --> 00:24:19,674
Speaker 4: is on the field. They've generally won except for Monday Monday, right,

499
00:24:19,793 --> 00:24:22,154
Speaker 4: And you said that they just made mistakes, and I

500
00:24:23,833 --> 00:24:26,994
Speaker 4: would absolutely defer to you because I didn't. I didn't

501
00:24:27,033 --> 00:24:27,313
Speaker 4: see it.

502
00:24:27,434 --> 00:24:31,954
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they were their own worst enemy in

503
00:24:32,033 --> 00:24:32,513
Speaker 3: that game.

504
00:24:33,394 --> 00:24:35,393
Speaker 4: So I think you're gonna need something like that to

505
00:24:35,474 --> 00:24:37,513
Speaker 4: win again. That's kind of the point.

506
00:24:37,553 --> 00:24:39,353
Speaker 3: And obviously I was rooting for the Rams, so I

507
00:24:39,394 --> 00:24:41,474
Speaker 3: was getting more frustrated because I wanted them to beat

508
00:24:41,474 --> 00:24:42,113
Speaker 3: the Dolphins.

509
00:24:42,553 --> 00:24:44,034
Speaker 4: I'm curious as to why I don't.

510
00:24:44,073 --> 00:24:46,513
Speaker 3: I just don't like the Dolphins. I want them to lose.

511
00:24:46,674 --> 00:24:47,633
Speaker 4: I hate for no reason.

512
00:24:47,754 --> 00:24:49,754
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like it's not like I'm saying, oh,

513
00:24:49,874 --> 00:24:53,313
Speaker 3: you know, the Patriots are battling for positioning for the

514
00:24:53,313 --> 00:24:56,193
Speaker 3: playoffs against the Dolphins. No, I just wanted the Dolphins

515
00:24:56,234 --> 00:24:56,473
Speaker 3: to lie.

516
00:24:56,474 --> 00:24:58,194
Speaker 4: I didn't know if maybe you were doing that whole

517
00:24:58,353 --> 00:25:00,434
Speaker 4: it's better to play the team that you're gonna play

518
00:25:00,474 --> 00:25:02,434
Speaker 4: coming off a win than a loss. A lot of

519
00:25:02,434 --> 00:25:05,114
Speaker 4: people buy that. Oh yeah, I'm not a big fan.

520
00:25:05,194 --> 00:25:07,074
Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking of that. No, I'm not a big

521
00:25:07,114 --> 00:25:07,874
Speaker 3: fan of that. Yeh.

522
00:25:08,273 --> 00:25:11,793
Speaker 4: Like, I think it's better that they maybe now look back, now,

523
00:25:11,954 --> 00:25:13,674
Speaker 4: maybe we're not that good, Maybe we are the one

524
00:25:13,714 --> 00:25:16,033
Speaker 4: in four team. Maybe they have some doubt. Yeah, you

525
00:25:16,114 --> 00:25:16,594
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

526
00:25:17,994 --> 00:25:20,954
Speaker 3: So, but both teams, you know, because it's good scouting

527
00:25:20,954 --> 00:25:23,354
Speaker 3: for the Patriots because they have those teams back to back.

528
00:25:23,833 --> 00:25:26,994
Speaker 3: Both those teams did not play well. It wasn't good football.

529
00:25:27,114 --> 00:25:30,593
Speaker 4: The Dolphins defense played well, but they couldn't. They didn't

530
00:25:30,593 --> 00:25:31,513
Speaker 4: move the ball very well.

531
00:25:31,674 --> 00:25:32,914
Speaker 3: That they they really didn't.

532
00:25:32,914 --> 00:25:34,754
Speaker 4: They did have that good drive at the end.

533
00:25:34,994 --> 00:25:37,633
Speaker 3: And I will say that, you know too, at some

534
00:25:37,793 --> 00:25:40,794
Speaker 3: point times was inaccurate. But he was let down by

535
00:25:40,793 --> 00:25:42,674
Speaker 3: his receivers too. I mean, I mean there was one

536
00:25:43,033 --> 00:25:48,074
Speaker 3: it was Mons were great downfield. Waddle had at least

537
00:25:48,114 --> 00:25:51,714
Speaker 3: a thirty yard should have been catched right through his hands,

538
00:25:51,754 --> 00:25:54,394
Speaker 3: hit him in the helmet. I mean it was all

539
00:25:56,434 --> 00:25:59,394
Speaker 3: so we'll see. It's going to be an interesting two weeks.

540
00:25:59,394 --> 00:26:02,994
Speaker 3: But I would love to just get that two games

541
00:26:03,033 --> 00:26:05,874
Speaker 3: in a row, a win at home. You know, we

542
00:26:06,793 --> 00:26:10,393
Speaker 3: Gillette Stadium has ceased to be the big advantage it

543
00:26:10,474 --> 00:26:13,793
Speaker 3: used to be in terms of home field advantage. So

544
00:26:13,833 --> 00:26:15,634
Speaker 3: it would be great to just get another home win

545
00:26:17,194 --> 00:26:21,674
Speaker 3: this year against a good team, have a little momentum

546
00:26:21,754 --> 00:26:24,754
Speaker 3: going down to Miami, a tough place to play for

547
00:26:24,793 --> 00:26:25,234
Speaker 3: the Patriot.

548
00:26:25,313 --> 00:26:30,313
Speaker 4: It's yeah. I mean, we'll see what the state that

549
00:26:30,394 --> 00:26:32,354
Speaker 4: the Dolphins are in in that game. I don't give

550
00:26:32,394 --> 00:26:33,594
Speaker 4: them much of a shot in that one.

551
00:26:33,754 --> 00:26:34,273
Speaker 3: Patriots.

552
00:26:34,313 --> 00:26:39,194
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Colts Well went back and made a quarterback change.

553
00:26:39,234 --> 00:26:40,434
Speaker 3: Yeah, back to Richardson.

554
00:26:40,434 --> 00:26:42,114
Speaker 4: So you can pencil that one and that's a w.

555
00:26:42,234 --> 00:26:43,714
Speaker 3: Well I think either one. I think.

556
00:26:44,033 --> 00:26:46,273
Speaker 4: I think it's a big difference in Flacco plays, not

557
00:26:46,313 --> 00:26:50,194
Speaker 4: the way you can throw against Minnesota. Yeah you don't

558
00:26:50,234 --> 00:26:52,674
Speaker 4: have that, like you can't, like you Why don't you

559
00:26:52,674 --> 00:26:54,073
Speaker 4: watch the other games that he played?

560
00:26:54,874 --> 00:26:58,154
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, no's he's been getting worse. I'm not worried

561
00:26:58,154 --> 00:26:59,434
Speaker 3: about Joe Flacco.

562
00:27:00,394 --> 00:27:01,593
Speaker 4: But you don't have to. I don't have to, and

563
00:27:01,674 --> 00:27:02,714
Speaker 4: he's not playing.

564
00:27:02,874 --> 00:27:04,553
Speaker 3: So now you have to worry about a guy who's

565
00:27:04,553 --> 00:27:05,513
Speaker 3: going to run around a little.

566
00:27:05,593 --> 00:27:08,874
Speaker 4: He can't play yet, he's not ready. Now you can't throw.

567
00:27:09,313 --> 00:27:12,394
Speaker 4: It's kind of a tricky. That's a kind of a requirement,

568
00:27:12,513 --> 00:27:14,833
Speaker 4: kind of have to do that quarterback. It's kind of

569
00:27:14,833 --> 00:27:17,554
Speaker 4: like when Costanza wanted to be like the announcer yea,

570
00:27:18,154 --> 00:27:19,514
Speaker 4: you know, made the witty comments.

571
00:27:19,793 --> 00:27:21,593
Speaker 3: You know, you kind of had to have done that.

572
00:27:22,754 --> 00:27:26,154
Speaker 3: It's interesting because last year when he's started, he wasn't

573
00:27:26,154 --> 00:27:29,313
Speaker 3: playing poorly Richardson until he got hurt.

574
00:27:30,434 --> 00:27:32,194
Speaker 4: Yeah, but most of what he was doing was just

575
00:27:32,273 --> 00:27:33,474
Speaker 4: kind of being an athlete.

576
00:27:34,353 --> 00:27:36,273
Speaker 3: But that was his thing coming out of college. They

577
00:27:36,353 --> 00:27:37,513
Speaker 3: knew he was raw, he was.

578
00:27:37,593 --> 00:27:39,793
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I thought it was weird that. First

579
00:27:39,833 --> 00:27:42,114
Speaker 4: of all, I never would have taken him that high,

580
00:27:42,154 --> 00:27:43,913
Speaker 4: but I thought it was weird that they gave him

581
00:27:43,914 --> 00:27:45,393
Speaker 4: the starting job right out of the shoot.

582
00:27:46,593 --> 00:27:49,033
Speaker 3: So all right, so I I think.

583
00:27:48,914 --> 00:27:51,633
Speaker 4: I mean they almost made the playoffs with godn minshew. Yeah,

584
00:27:51,754 --> 00:27:52,834
Speaker 4: I think he stinks.

585
00:27:52,914 --> 00:27:55,754
Speaker 3: I think the Colts is a game you should win absolutely.

586
00:27:55,874 --> 00:28:02,394
Speaker 4: Yeah, Uh all right, can I change should to could could. Okay, Yeah,

587
00:28:03,234 --> 00:28:03,874
Speaker 4: I'm gonna.

588
00:28:03,914 --> 00:28:05,714
Speaker 3: But just say that to me. You say every game

589
00:28:05,793 --> 00:28:06,154
Speaker 3: is could.

590
00:28:06,434 --> 00:28:08,474
Speaker 4: I but I think that they have a better better

591
00:28:08,553 --> 00:28:11,234
Speaker 4: chance in that game than the other the other seven remains.

592
00:28:11,234 --> 00:28:12,913
Speaker 4: I agree with that that's the best chance for a

593
00:28:12,954 --> 00:28:15,353
Speaker 4: win out of those seven remainis. Yes, I agree in

594
00:28:15,353 --> 00:28:17,633
Speaker 4: my view. Not telling you they're only going to win

595
00:28:17,674 --> 00:28:20,113
Speaker 4: one game. I'm just saying that's the best odds I

596
00:28:20,114 --> 00:28:23,193
Speaker 4: would give them, And largely because of Anthony Richardson, I

597
00:28:23,234 --> 00:28:24,793
Speaker 4: just don't think he's ready to win.

598
00:28:24,914 --> 00:28:27,513
Speaker 3: So if the Patriots end up with five wins this season,

599
00:28:27,634 --> 00:28:29,353
Speaker 3: is this a better season than last season?

600
00:28:30,553 --> 00:28:33,474
Speaker 4: Sure? Okay, because you're playing a rookie quarterback.

601
00:28:33,674 --> 00:28:36,273
Speaker 3: I heard something, Yeah, I heard that you have like hope.

602
00:28:35,994 --> 00:28:39,393
Speaker 4: For the future. Yep, yeah, I mean provided that, Like

603
00:28:39,554 --> 00:28:41,514
Speaker 4: I would feel better about it if he played better

604
00:28:41,554 --> 00:28:43,514
Speaker 4: than he did Sunday. Like if they win all the

605
00:28:43,554 --> 00:28:45,714
Speaker 4: games like they did Sunday, I won't feel as good

606
00:28:45,714 --> 00:28:47,713
Speaker 4: about it, but I'll still feel better about it than

607
00:28:47,794 --> 00:28:51,194
Speaker 4: last year. Yeah, because you have a rookie quarterback and

608
00:28:51,234 --> 00:28:53,994
Speaker 4: you're on the way up, Like, can't you feel like

609
00:28:54,194 --> 00:28:56,234
Speaker 4: I'm I don't know, I'm probably being corny. Can't you

610
00:28:56,234 --> 00:28:57,634
Speaker 4: feel like a difference between the.

611
00:28:57,554 --> 00:29:00,394
Speaker 5: Way Oh god, yeah, people sort of have.

612
00:29:00,434 --> 00:29:05,034
Speaker 4: Responded to Drake May's presence then they then then last year,

613
00:29:05,074 --> 00:29:08,114
Speaker 4: like last year was no one talking about, wow, look

614
00:29:08,114 --> 00:29:10,554
Speaker 4: at these wins, like this is great. No one was

615
00:29:10,594 --> 00:29:11,354
Speaker 4: talking like that.

616
00:29:11,514 --> 00:29:16,234
Speaker 3: Last year was just a terrible feeling overall. It wasn't

617
00:29:16,274 --> 00:29:18,873
Speaker 3: just Mac Jones, it was just the whole feeling of

618
00:29:18,874 --> 00:29:21,034
Speaker 3: the team. It was it was just I.

619
00:29:21,154 --> 00:29:25,674
Speaker 4: Think, But I think that's the difference is Drake May. Yeah,

620
00:29:25,794 --> 00:29:27,154
Speaker 4: noything else is largely the same.

621
00:29:27,314 --> 00:29:30,113
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you just felt like you were just

622
00:29:30,154 --> 00:29:33,153
Speaker 3: playing it out last year and nobody was talking to

623
00:29:33,194 --> 00:29:36,113
Speaker 3: everybody that it was just like, I know, mommy and

624
00:29:36,194 --> 00:29:37,074
Speaker 3: Daddy were fighting.

625
00:29:38,074 --> 00:29:40,594
Speaker 4: You know, some people probably felt like, well, if you

626
00:29:40,594 --> 00:29:43,794
Speaker 4: could get Mac Jones two top receivers and fix the

627
00:29:43,874 --> 00:29:47,674
Speaker 4: offensive line, you know, they could do all this. I didn't. Yeah,

628
00:29:47,754 --> 00:29:50,554
Speaker 4: so I didn't really have any hope, right, But now

629
00:29:50,714 --> 00:29:52,673
Speaker 4: I do have hope. Yeah, because I think that if

630
00:29:52,714 --> 00:29:55,914
Speaker 4: you do plug in with the right guys, and I'm

631
00:29:55,954 --> 00:29:58,034
Speaker 4: not saying it would be an overnight fix, but I

632
00:29:58,074 --> 00:30:01,034
Speaker 4: think if you got him two really good receivers, your

633
00:30:01,114 --> 00:30:03,594
Speaker 4: offensive line theory from yesterday that you sold me on,

634
00:30:04,274 --> 00:30:05,913
Speaker 4: like all of a sudden, I think you have the

635
00:30:05,954 --> 00:30:07,393
Speaker 4: makings are having a pretty good offense.

636
00:30:07,754 --> 00:30:09,274
Speaker 3: I want to talk about that for a sink, because

637
00:30:09,274 --> 00:30:12,074
Speaker 3: I was thinking about something when it comes to offensive line.

638
00:30:12,074 --> 00:30:17,154
Speaker 3: But the rest of the football intelligence gentsia has caught

639
00:30:17,234 --> 00:30:18,994
Speaker 3: up with you, Paul, caught up with you and me.

640
00:30:19,114 --> 00:30:23,153
Speaker 3: You have you seen all the praise of Drake May

641
00:30:23,194 --> 00:30:26,754
Speaker 3: as a person that's come out yesterday like you were,

642
00:30:26,954 --> 00:30:29,514
Speaker 3: you were, I think they're listening to you. But all

643
00:30:29,594 --> 00:30:33,034
Speaker 3: the stuff about him is a good guy, a great leader,

644
00:30:33,674 --> 00:30:35,913
Speaker 3: like I just oh, yeah, it was.

645
00:30:36,114 --> 00:30:38,274
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not saying any of that. I'm just

646
00:30:38,314 --> 00:30:40,673
Speaker 4: telling you that I watched this guy. I haven't spoken

647
00:30:40,674 --> 00:30:42,554
Speaker 4: to him by my you know, aside from the day

648
00:30:42,554 --> 00:30:44,314
Speaker 4: that we had him on the show. I think that's

649
00:30:44,354 --> 00:30:47,754
Speaker 4: probably the only time that we've individually spoken to him.

650
00:30:48,194 --> 00:30:49,954
Speaker 4: I just like the way he.

651
00:30:49,834 --> 00:30:52,434
Speaker 3: Carries himself, and the rest of the league agrees.

652
00:30:52,234 --> 00:30:54,994
Speaker 4: You know. I'm I don't know what it says about

653
00:30:55,034 --> 00:30:58,354
Speaker 4: him being a great leader, Like I don't think any

654
00:30:58,594 --> 00:31:00,674
Speaker 4: any of that. I'm not ready to say, well that

655
00:31:00,674 --> 00:31:03,154
Speaker 4: that is fact, Like I don't know about how any

656
00:31:03,154 --> 00:31:05,474
Speaker 4: of that's going to play out. But I'm just telling

657
00:31:05,514 --> 00:31:08,794
Speaker 4: you I like him, And I know that sounds so corny,

658
00:31:08,834 --> 00:31:09,594
Speaker 4: but I like him.

659
00:31:09,554 --> 00:31:11,794
Speaker 3: And I think the team likes him. I think his

660
00:31:11,914 --> 00:31:16,994
Speaker 3: coaches like him. And uh and now these analysts across

661
00:31:17,034 --> 00:31:17,434
Speaker 3: the league.

662
00:31:18,154 --> 00:31:21,874
Speaker 4: Even today, he's talking about, you know, being more productive

663
00:31:21,954 --> 00:31:24,794
Speaker 4: offensively in the red zone, and you know that starts

664
00:31:24,834 --> 00:31:27,394
Speaker 4: with me. I can't throw an interception. The interception wasn't

665
00:31:27,394 --> 00:31:31,074
Speaker 4: even in the red zone. But he's bringing up his mistake.

666
00:31:31,274 --> 00:31:31,594
Speaker 3: Yeah.

667
00:31:31,674 --> 00:31:32,153
Speaker 4: I like that.

668
00:31:32,314 --> 00:31:35,673
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that. I have a feeling that when

669
00:31:35,674 --> 00:31:37,434
Speaker 3: it comes to offensive line, we're gonna have a lot

670
00:31:37,434 --> 00:31:39,874
Speaker 3: of good discussions in the off season as we get

671
00:31:39,874 --> 00:31:42,354
Speaker 3: close to the draft and how the Patriots should use

672
00:31:42,394 --> 00:31:44,994
Speaker 3: their money and their assets and all that stuff. But

673
00:31:46,634 --> 00:31:49,393
Speaker 3: tell me, if you agree with this, if you have

674
00:31:50,434 --> 00:31:55,074
Speaker 3: five good linemen, not great, five good linemen, you can

675
00:31:55,154 --> 00:31:56,074
Speaker 3: have an elite line.

676
00:31:56,114 --> 00:31:59,234
Speaker 4: You'll be fine. Yeah. Absolutely, in the NFL, I don't

677
00:31:59,594 --> 00:32:01,633
Speaker 4: I don't need an elite line. Let me can just

678
00:32:01,674 --> 00:32:04,794
Speaker 4: state that emphatically. Yeah, I just can't have guys that

679
00:32:04,874 --> 00:32:06,834
Speaker 4: can't get in the way. I can't have what I

680
00:32:06,834 --> 00:32:10,314
Speaker 4: saw Chicago do Sunday. But you have you seen much

681
00:32:10,354 --> 00:32:12,234
Speaker 4: of a worse performance by a line than that.

682
00:32:12,834 --> 00:32:15,794
Speaker 3: But it was awful, but the whole thing was terrible.

683
00:32:15,874 --> 00:32:17,034
Speaker 4: It can't be like that.

684
00:32:17,754 --> 00:32:20,914
Speaker 3: What I'm trying to say is, to me, it's more

685
00:32:20,954 --> 00:32:23,994
Speaker 3: important to have five good guys than have one or

686
00:32:23,994 --> 00:32:26,194
Speaker 3: two really good guys and then the rest stink.

687
00:32:26,594 --> 00:32:29,354
Speaker 4: Well, the Chiefs do it that way. Yeah, the Chiefs

688
00:32:29,394 --> 00:32:32,554
Speaker 4: have a couple of outstanding linemen and the other two stink.

689
00:32:32,634 --> 00:32:35,034
Speaker 3: And what's their point production this year? I don't know.

690
00:32:35,034 --> 00:32:37,393
Speaker 3: They're notine and oh I know, but they're not you know,

691
00:32:37,674 --> 00:32:38,874
Speaker 3: come on, be honest.

692
00:32:38,594 --> 00:32:41,474
Speaker 4: Now, I'm just telling you they're holding them back.

693
00:32:41,514 --> 00:32:42,954
Speaker 3: No, but their defense is really.

694
00:32:42,994 --> 00:32:47,594
Speaker 4: What is holding them back? Nothing offensively, nothing nothing, not

695
00:32:47,714 --> 00:32:48,634
Speaker 4: the fact that they're all out.

696
00:32:48,754 --> 00:32:50,674
Speaker 3: No, but they're nine and I how's Rashi.

697
00:32:50,474 --> 00:32:52,873
Speaker 4: Rice playing, Ha's Isaiah Pacheco playing.

698
00:32:53,074 --> 00:32:55,714
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm just saying they're white productions down.

699
00:32:55,794 --> 00:32:58,194
Speaker 4: That's why I'm telling you why because their skill position

700
00:32:58,234 --> 00:32:58,914
Speaker 4: guys aren't playing.

701
00:32:58,994 --> 00:33:02,194
Speaker 3: Okay, But I'm I'm saying that I'd rather have five

702
00:33:02,274 --> 00:33:04,834
Speaker 3: good guys than one or two great and then the

703
00:33:04,834 --> 00:33:05,434
Speaker 3: rest stink.

704
00:33:06,274 --> 00:33:08,673
Speaker 4: No, that's fine. Yeah, I'm just telling you that the

705
00:33:08,714 --> 00:33:11,913
Speaker 4: best team in football has three really good linemen on

706
00:33:11,914 --> 00:33:13,754
Speaker 4: the inside and two absolutely.

707
00:33:13,354 --> 00:33:15,114
Speaker 3: Terrible times and the greatest player in the game.

708
00:33:15,234 --> 00:33:18,234
Speaker 4: Correct, Okay, so I'll take the greatest player in the game.

709
00:33:18,274 --> 00:33:20,474
Speaker 3: But that's how the Patriots, I know, but you can't

710
00:33:20,834 --> 00:33:21,194
Speaker 3: count on.

711
00:33:21,274 --> 00:33:22,914
Speaker 4: But that's how the Patriots did it for twenty I

712
00:33:23,474 --> 00:33:25,514
Speaker 4: like that, but I'm not assuming that. I'm not like

713
00:33:25,554 --> 00:33:27,194
Speaker 4: Mike Rousseau like that.

714
00:33:27,714 --> 00:33:30,594
Speaker 3: But that's not fair, and I know it's not fair,

715
00:33:30,634 --> 00:33:33,194
Speaker 3: but that's fair. I think even I can't be I know,

716
00:33:33,234 --> 00:33:35,594
Speaker 3: but I think even during the Dynasty there were times

717
00:33:35,634 --> 00:33:37,873
Speaker 3: where the NFR line wasn't that great.

718
00:33:37,954 --> 00:33:41,274
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. I don't need to have with you.

719
00:33:41,314 --> 00:33:41,994
Speaker 4: I don't need to have.

720
00:33:41,954 --> 00:33:44,434
Speaker 3: An elite the greatest player in the game. I don't

721
00:33:44,474 --> 00:33:47,114
Speaker 3: need an elite line, but I need a good line.

722
00:33:47,474 --> 00:33:51,794
Speaker 3: I don't Oh, I just can't have them be traffic coding. Okay,

723
00:33:51,954 --> 00:33:55,554
Speaker 3: so then you're with me, then maybe we should.

724
00:33:55,274 --> 00:33:57,554
Speaker 4: That's what I said. You sold me. I've said at

725
00:33:57,554 --> 00:33:59,873
Speaker 4: the end of the show yesterday, you really like the

726
00:33:59,954 --> 00:34:03,034
Speaker 4: more you talked about it, because I've sort of like, no,

727
00:34:03,354 --> 00:34:04,994
Speaker 4: I got to take my medicine. I'm not a big

728
00:34:05,034 --> 00:34:06,834
Speaker 4: line guy, but you got they got to get a

729
00:34:06,874 --> 00:34:08,714
Speaker 4: left tackle. And then you kept talking about it, and

730
00:34:08,754 --> 00:34:10,914
Speaker 4: I was like, he's not wrong. I was thinking to

731
00:34:10,914 --> 00:34:12,594
Speaker 4: myself the whole time, this is like the first time

732
00:34:12,594 --> 00:34:14,914
Speaker 4: I've ever been in an argument with you and thinking

733
00:34:14,914 --> 00:34:17,873
Speaker 4: to myself, I'm losing my friends beating me.

734
00:34:18,034 --> 00:34:21,194
Speaker 3: But more more importantly than getting that blue Chipper is

735
00:34:21,234 --> 00:34:26,433
Speaker 3: having a good line coach and drafting or getting the

736
00:34:26,514 --> 00:34:28,794
Speaker 3: right guys. They don't have to be elite.

737
00:34:28,994 --> 00:34:30,874
Speaker 4: You need to have a good line, but it doesn't

738
00:34:30,874 --> 00:34:32,554
Speaker 4: have to be elite. I totally agree with you. I

739
00:34:32,594 --> 00:34:35,674
Speaker 4: think Detroit is great. Listen, It's great to have Panic school.

740
00:34:35,794 --> 00:34:39,633
Speaker 4: He's a great tackle, and I think any team would

741
00:34:39,634 --> 00:34:41,274
Speaker 4: take him. I just don't think you have to have

742
00:34:41,393 --> 00:34:45,234
Speaker 4: that level of alignment in order to have a successful offense, right.

743
00:34:45,393 --> 00:34:48,993
Speaker 4: You just can't have a terrible line like Cincinnati and

744
00:34:49,114 --> 00:34:51,073
Speaker 4: Kansas City back to back years went all the way

745
00:34:51,074 --> 00:34:54,594
Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl with the absolute worst offensive lines

746
00:34:54,634 --> 00:34:58,674
Speaker 4: in football back to back seasons. Yep, now they lost

747
00:34:58,674 --> 00:35:00,393
Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl. I get it, you know, Like

748
00:35:00,594 --> 00:35:04,194
Speaker 4: Felger would tell me where did they win? Yeah, Like, okay,

749
00:35:04,274 --> 00:35:07,314
Speaker 4: well he goes go and forth, kind of like Randy Moss.

750
00:35:07,674 --> 00:35:10,513
Speaker 4: You can never win anything with Randy Moss because you know.

751
00:35:11,393 --> 00:35:14,194
Speaker 3: But he got caught in a uh, you know, a

752
00:35:14,274 --> 00:35:16,554
Speaker 3: contradiction the other day because he was talking about, you know,

753
00:35:16,554 --> 00:35:20,194
Speaker 3: I'd rather be the Steelers because every year they're they're

754
00:35:20,234 --> 00:35:22,633
Speaker 3: they're in it, every year they're in it. But then

755
00:35:22,754 --> 00:35:24,874
Speaker 3: he makes fun of the Bruins over in the past

756
00:35:25,393 --> 00:35:27,514
Speaker 3: because they get to the playoffs and then they lose.

757
00:35:28,354 --> 00:35:28,593
Speaker 3: You know.

758
00:35:29,594 --> 00:35:33,794
Speaker 4: So yeah, he likes, he likes because it whatever's the

759
00:35:33,834 --> 00:35:39,633
Speaker 4: anti Boston right stands right, you know, like Pittsburgh. Now,

760
00:35:39,794 --> 00:35:41,953
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe this year is different for Pittsburgh.

761
00:35:42,154 --> 00:35:44,354
Speaker 4: Maybe Russell Wilson is playing a little bit better than

762
00:35:44,393 --> 00:35:47,154
Speaker 4: he has and he's putting him over the top a

763
00:35:47,194 --> 00:35:50,274
Speaker 4: little bit. I don't know. I haven't watched enough specifically.

764
00:35:50,354 --> 00:35:53,714
Speaker 4: I wasn't overly impressed with Wilson's first start against the Jets.

765
00:35:53,953 --> 00:35:56,074
Speaker 3: But maybe he's produced.

766
00:35:55,674 --> 00:35:57,953
Speaker 4: Maybe he's done. Maybe he's doing better than I what

767
00:35:57,994 --> 00:36:00,474
Speaker 4: I saw last year, and maybe he's the missing ingredient.

768
00:36:01,314 --> 00:36:04,354
Speaker 4: But Pittsburgh the last three or four years, you can

769
00:36:04,393 --> 00:36:08,433
Speaker 4: take that. I have no interest in that. Like being

770
00:36:08,473 --> 00:36:10,834
Speaker 4: a middling team that finds a way because they're well

771
00:36:10,873 --> 00:36:14,393
Speaker 4: coached to win enough to squeak in the playoffs and

772
00:36:14,433 --> 00:36:17,674
Speaker 4: get you know, bounced out in the first round. Like

773
00:36:17,754 --> 00:36:20,033
Speaker 4: I don't need that. Yeah every year. Now, I'm not

774
00:36:20,034 --> 00:36:22,554
Speaker 4: telling you, like right now, I take that in a heartbeat.

775
00:36:22,834 --> 00:36:24,354
Speaker 4: You want to tell me that the path is there

776
00:36:24,393 --> 00:36:25,873
Speaker 4: for the Patriots and all of a sudden they go

777
00:36:25,953 --> 00:36:28,114
Speaker 4: five and two down the stretch and squeak into the

778
00:36:28,154 --> 00:36:30,513
Speaker 4: playoffs somehow take eight and I'd take that.

779
00:36:30,594 --> 00:36:32,033
Speaker 3: But eventually you got to get over the hump.

780
00:36:32,194 --> 00:36:33,954
Speaker 4: But I don't want that four years in a row,

781
00:36:34,034 --> 00:36:35,234
Speaker 4: and that's where Pittsburgh has been.

782
00:36:35,314 --> 00:36:38,913
Speaker 3: Yeah. But but like you said with Russell speaking of mediocrity,

783
00:36:39,314 --> 00:36:41,114
Speaker 3: whoa but but.

784
00:36:44,514 --> 00:36:48,914
Speaker 10: Players friendly to none of them look like Derek Henry. Hey, Mike,

785
00:36:49,274 --> 00:36:53,434
Speaker 10: what was it like in the locker room?

786
00:36:54,714 --> 00:36:58,194
Speaker 5: What was it like in the.

787
00:36:57,514 --> 00:37:00,834
Speaker 3: Locker All right, Mike, As you can see, we've already

788
00:37:01,393 --> 00:37:03,913
Speaker 3: talked a lot, so we'll give the floor to you.

789
00:37:04,074 --> 00:37:06,434
Speaker 9: Oh, thank you. Uh, No, very busy day today.

790
00:37:06,594 --> 00:37:06,914
Speaker 3: Busy.

791
00:37:07,274 --> 00:37:09,194
Speaker 9: Yeah, there were a lot of guys, a lot of

792
00:37:09,194 --> 00:37:13,674
Speaker 9: guys talking. It's pretty good. We heard from Uh. Kind

793
00:37:13,674 --> 00:37:15,794
Speaker 9: of impressed by him. He just like I know, we

794
00:37:15,834 --> 00:37:17,674
Speaker 9: talked about does this guy want to come here. I mean,

795
00:37:17,754 --> 00:37:20,113
Speaker 9: Mike Reese asked him directly, like, you.

796
00:37:20,034 --> 00:37:21,354
Speaker 6: Know, you're going from a team that was winning a

797
00:37:21,393 --> 00:37:23,754
Speaker 6: lot to a team that isn't Uh. He doesn't seem

798
00:37:23,794 --> 00:37:26,154
Speaker 6: to care. He just seems like he's in. He's happy

799
00:37:26,154 --> 00:37:29,434
Speaker 6: to be here. I would put my SFG serious football

800
00:37:29,473 --> 00:37:32,834
Speaker 6: guy Monitor Moniker on him, like he just he seems

801
00:37:32,873 --> 00:37:33,794
Speaker 6: like he's all business.

802
00:37:34,154 --> 00:37:35,993
Speaker 3: When you say you're impressed, I thought you might say

803
00:37:35,994 --> 00:37:37,234
Speaker 3: in a Derek Henry.

804
00:37:37,114 --> 00:37:40,314
Speaker 9: No no, no, no, no, no, come on, that's that's ridiculous.

805
00:37:40,354 --> 00:37:41,553
Speaker 4: Imagine if we had a guy in the.

806
00:37:41,473 --> 00:37:44,673
Speaker 9: Lockdown it was a former Raven all right, but yeah,

807
00:37:44,714 --> 00:37:44,993
Speaker 9: at the.

808
00:37:44,953 --> 00:37:46,433
Speaker 3: Same time Mike would camp out.

809
00:37:47,514 --> 00:37:49,954
Speaker 6: Uh but no, just you know, he just seems no nonsense,

810
00:37:50,034 --> 00:37:51,593
Speaker 6: veteran kind of guy gets it.

811
00:37:51,873 --> 00:37:52,074
Speaker 7: You know.

812
00:37:52,074 --> 00:37:53,593
Speaker 9: The question was, were you surprised at all?

813
00:37:53,634 --> 00:37:56,033
Speaker 6: He's like, no, this is the NFL, like so good

814
00:37:56,074 --> 00:37:58,794
Speaker 6: responses quick, you know, direct. It was kind of the

815
00:37:58,873 --> 00:38:00,593
Speaker 6: vibe I got from him. So maybe write a little

816
00:38:00,594 --> 00:38:03,394
Speaker 6: bit about him today. Her from Joe Cardona talked about

817
00:38:03,433 --> 00:38:06,794
Speaker 6: the Notre Dame Navy game coming up in two years,

818
00:38:06,873 --> 00:38:08,994
Speaker 6: so he's excited for that. A little bit about Veterans

819
00:38:09,114 --> 00:38:12,674
Speaker 6: Day July Tavia, who was dubbed father of the Year already.

820
00:38:12,714 --> 00:38:14,234
Speaker 6: I'm like, that's been a father for like a week.

821
00:38:14,314 --> 00:38:16,554
Speaker 6: I'm like, that's like us maybe take that a little personally,

822
00:38:16,594 --> 00:38:19,434
Speaker 6: but huge week for him. He was just still seemed

823
00:38:19,473 --> 00:38:22,953
Speaker 6: like he was kind of spinning, as any parent knows, like.

824
00:38:22,913 --> 00:38:24,594
Speaker 9: Those early days are a little rough air when you

825
00:38:24,594 --> 00:38:26,874
Speaker 9: got the baby. Not a lot of sleep. Uh, still

826
00:38:26,953 --> 00:38:31,073
Speaker 9: catching up hides Joey slides a new dad as well,

827
00:38:31,114 --> 00:38:32,234
Speaker 9: So a couple of new babies there.

828
00:38:32,514 --> 00:38:32,634
Speaker 11: Uh.

829
00:38:32,754 --> 00:38:36,234
Speaker 6: Jonathan Jones talking a little bit as well, just as

830
00:38:36,314 --> 00:38:38,033
Speaker 6: you know, breaking down the locker room at the end,

831
00:38:38,634 --> 00:38:41,433
Speaker 6: asked a little bit about that playing the safety.

832
00:38:41,154 --> 00:38:41,754
Speaker 3: Role a little bit.

833
00:38:43,834 --> 00:38:44,354
Speaker 9: Yeah, and he had to.

834
00:38:44,393 --> 00:38:46,674
Speaker 6: He had a good little tidbit about that, which is

835
00:38:46,714 --> 00:38:48,114
Speaker 6: what the the first time they had him do what

836
00:38:48,154 --> 00:38:50,274
Speaker 6: he said was in the Super Bowl against the Rams.

837
00:38:50,473 --> 00:38:53,073
Speaker 9: It was kind of interesting. So he brought that up.

838
00:38:54,034 --> 00:38:57,034
Speaker 6: And then there was one more guy, oh, Jalen Hawkins

839
00:38:57,034 --> 00:38:59,194
Speaker 6: as well, so another uh you know, another one of

840
00:38:59,194 --> 00:39:01,593
Speaker 6: the defensive guys. And I think they're all echoing the

841
00:39:01,594 --> 00:39:04,234
Speaker 6: theme for Jira Meo this week, which is we got

842
00:39:04,274 --> 00:39:07,154
Speaker 6: to try to stack two games together. Uh, two wins together.

843
00:39:07,473 --> 00:39:09,794
Speaker 6: I think the quote that that Jalen Hawkins was using

844
00:39:09,913 --> 00:39:12,154
Speaker 6: is that old keys don't work on new doors, so

845
00:39:12,194 --> 00:39:13,873
Speaker 6: we have to find the new keys to open the

846
00:39:13,913 --> 00:39:14,514
Speaker 6: new doors.

847
00:39:15,034 --> 00:39:17,594
Speaker 9: I think was the what they're using. That's a little tidbit.

848
00:39:17,674 --> 00:39:20,114
Speaker 6: But yeah, a bunch of guys talking. I think I

849
00:39:20,154 --> 00:39:22,194
Speaker 6: mentioned Pop Douglas too was the last one that that

850
00:39:22,274 --> 00:39:22,993
Speaker 6: closed it out.

851
00:39:23,074 --> 00:39:26,114
Speaker 9: So good group good, a cross section.

852
00:39:25,994 --> 00:39:29,033
Speaker 6: Of no not yet they they did seem a little

853
00:39:29,034 --> 00:39:31,234
Speaker 6: bit uh bundled up, I would say, because it is

854
00:39:31,234 --> 00:39:33,514
Speaker 6: a little chili out there today. But but now nobody

855
00:39:33,514 --> 00:39:35,433
Speaker 6: seemed too worse for it. Seemed like Jalen Hawkins was

856
00:39:35,433 --> 00:39:37,314
Speaker 6: a little maybe a little under the weather though, So

857
00:39:37,354 --> 00:39:40,154
Speaker 6: maybe that's something to to watch with the locker room

858
00:39:40,194 --> 00:39:43,834
Speaker 6: hawk that come on, hawk, get healthy guy.

859
00:39:44,154 --> 00:39:47,034
Speaker 9: But yeah, no, I think and Goway was the biggest,

860
00:39:47,114 --> 00:39:49,274
Speaker 9: you know, made the biggest impression on me obvious just

861
00:39:49,314 --> 00:39:49,993
Speaker 9: being a new guy.

862
00:39:50,074 --> 00:39:52,074
Speaker 3: And you know, you think he has a chance to

863
00:39:52,114 --> 00:39:52,673
Speaker 3: play this week.

864
00:39:52,754 --> 00:39:53,234
Speaker 7: I do.

865
00:39:53,354 --> 00:39:55,674
Speaker 6: I mean I think with Dietrick Wise, you know we

866
00:39:56,274 --> 00:39:57,393
Speaker 6: usually hear from Tetrick.

867
00:39:57,114 --> 00:39:58,873
Speaker 3: Wise on these days.

868
00:39:58,873 --> 00:40:00,953
Speaker 6: He heard his ankle, you know, we said after the

869
00:40:00,953 --> 00:40:03,274
Speaker 6: game he was okay, I saw Reese kind of speculating

870
00:40:03,314 --> 00:40:05,194
Speaker 6: on Twitter a little bit that maybe there's.

871
00:40:05,194 --> 00:40:06,073
Speaker 9: Something up with him.

872
00:40:06,114 --> 00:40:08,473
Speaker 6: So, I mean that's what in goakway does I know,

873
00:40:08,554 --> 00:40:10,593
Speaker 6: you know, known as a pass rusher, but he's a

874
00:40:10,674 --> 00:40:13,634
Speaker 6: defensive end like like you know, like wise is so

875
00:40:13,674 --> 00:40:16,274
Speaker 6: I could easily see him. They might have to throw him,

876
00:40:16,354 --> 00:40:17,634
Speaker 6: you know, right in the fire, which wouldn't be a

877
00:40:17,634 --> 00:40:18,993
Speaker 6: bad I don't know why not, you know, throw him

878
00:40:18,994 --> 00:40:19,994
Speaker 6: in there, see what he's got.

879
00:40:20,994 --> 00:40:23,314
Speaker 3: So yeah, you have him as well use it. Sure.

880
00:40:23,393 --> 00:40:25,473
Speaker 4: Yeah, Now I know it was about him, you know

881
00:40:25,953 --> 00:40:29,594
Speaker 4: personal who was listed as why he was out last week?

882
00:40:30,873 --> 00:40:32,674
Speaker 9: Who was was Ina?

883
00:40:32,994 --> 00:40:34,953
Speaker 4: So it wasn't like an injury or anything like that.

884
00:40:35,114 --> 00:40:38,393
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, he also practices during the week. I

885
00:40:38,393 --> 00:40:40,234
Speaker 4: would expect him to be up on it as they

886
00:40:40,234 --> 00:40:40,993
Speaker 4: say he should be up.

887
00:40:41,114 --> 00:40:41,274
Speaker 7: Yeah.

888
00:40:41,314 --> 00:40:43,154
Speaker 9: One other buzzword was was all three downs?

889
00:40:43,154 --> 00:40:44,913
Speaker 6: He said, you know, just that was something that what

890
00:40:44,994 --> 00:40:47,274
Speaker 6: did the coaches talked to you about come in make

891
00:40:47,314 --> 00:40:48,433
Speaker 6: an impact on all three downs?

892
00:40:48,473 --> 00:40:51,354
Speaker 4: So he's got to play all three downs. Like back

893
00:40:51,393 --> 00:40:53,993
Speaker 4: to the we talk about. You know, Fred's been talking

894
00:40:53,994 --> 00:40:57,714
Speaker 4: about like so many guys thrust into roles that they

895
00:40:57,754 --> 00:41:01,193
Speaker 4: probably didn't envision you know Jeremiah Farms playing so well

896
00:41:01,234 --> 00:41:02,113
Speaker 4: on Sunday.

897
00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:06,114
Speaker 3: And yeah, you know del Pettis tough times.

898
00:41:06,154 --> 00:41:07,553
Speaker 4: Del Pettis another one had us.

899
00:41:07,913 --> 00:41:09,473
Speaker 9: Yeah, so no good day.

900
00:41:09,473 --> 00:41:09,954
Speaker 4: It was active.

901
00:41:09,953 --> 00:41:11,314
Speaker 6: I mean, it just feels like I got a lot

902
00:41:11,314 --> 00:41:13,234
Speaker 6: of guys, a lot of guys talked, and a.

903
00:41:13,194 --> 00:41:15,194
Speaker 9: Little bit just feels a little bit more juice to

904
00:41:15,234 --> 00:41:15,553
Speaker 9: the team.

905
00:41:15,594 --> 00:41:17,794
Speaker 6: I mean, we spent a bunch of weeks back to

906
00:41:17,873 --> 00:41:20,033
Speaker 6: back after losses and it's kind of the same thing.

907
00:41:20,074 --> 00:41:22,314
Speaker 6: And I think everybody was sick of being on that treadmill.

908
00:41:22,393 --> 00:41:23,913
Speaker 6: So it's it's nice to just change it up a

909
00:41:23,953 --> 00:41:25,554
Speaker 6: little bit and see a team with, you know, a

910
00:41:25,594 --> 00:41:27,714
Speaker 6: little confidence, a little bit more belief in themselves and

911
00:41:27,834 --> 00:41:29,194
Speaker 6: now trying to get another I heard.

912
00:41:29,034 --> 00:41:32,073
Speaker 3: You on your appearance on one of Paul's shows this morning.

913
00:41:32,354 --> 00:41:34,393
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like how I did hear.

914
00:41:34,674 --> 00:41:37,114
Speaker 3: I like how Fred says that, you know, we have

915
00:41:37,194 --> 00:41:38,953
Speaker 3: a mind because he's a friend of Hearty.

916
00:41:39,393 --> 00:41:41,674
Speaker 9: Said that this is his friend, Like.

917
00:41:45,194 --> 00:41:48,513
Speaker 4: Right, he doesn't know anything, no, but he was interacting

918
00:41:48,514 --> 00:41:50,673
Speaker 4: with you a little bit more this week than here.

919
00:41:50,913 --> 00:41:54,073
Speaker 9: I feel like I'm making connections with Fred. Well, yeah,

920
00:41:54,114 --> 00:41:56,033
Speaker 9: I don't know. I mean, he's I think I mean,

921
00:41:56,234 --> 00:41:56,913
Speaker 9: you guys know me.

922
00:41:56,994 --> 00:41:59,194
Speaker 6: I I'm always ready to joke and have a sense

923
00:41:59,194 --> 00:42:00,074
Speaker 6: of humor about stuff.

924
00:42:00,074 --> 00:42:00,953
Speaker 4: And you know.

925
00:42:00,913 --> 00:42:03,234
Speaker 9: He just he seems like he has like great rants

926
00:42:03,234 --> 00:42:04,274
Speaker 9: and you know, so I don't know.

927
00:42:04,314 --> 00:42:06,393
Speaker 3: I likes movies, so you know the fact that you

928
00:42:06,473 --> 00:42:07,354
Speaker 3: were in Hollywood, and.

929
00:42:07,913 --> 00:42:09,433
Speaker 6: I haven't impressed him with that yet, I don't think,

930
00:42:09,473 --> 00:42:11,474
Speaker 6: but I'm sure Hardy told him.

931
00:42:11,514 --> 00:42:13,314
Speaker 9: But yeah, it's always every time I go on there,

932
00:42:13,433 --> 00:42:16,234
Speaker 9: do we do a zoom call? I use the zoom audio.

933
00:42:16,994 --> 00:42:17,873
Speaker 9: I'm not I'm not.

934
00:42:18,473 --> 00:42:19,794
Speaker 3: They don't want this on twit.

935
00:42:20,154 --> 00:42:22,234
Speaker 4: No, they don't want to see how physically I know

936
00:42:22,314 --> 00:42:22,593
Speaker 4: you don't.

937
00:42:22,634 --> 00:42:24,274
Speaker 9: I don't. I mean they're lost, right.

938
00:42:24,473 --> 00:42:25,154
Speaker 3: They on YouTube?

939
00:42:25,674 --> 00:42:29,033
Speaker 4: I don't know because I think are yeah, yeah, because

940
00:42:29,034 --> 00:42:30,034
Speaker 4: he always says YouTube.

941
00:42:30,154 --> 00:42:33,714
Speaker 9: Yeah, it always calls it YouTube. It's good see fighting,

942
00:42:33,794 --> 00:42:35,953
Speaker 9: funny stuff. But no, I appreciate those guys having me on.

943
00:42:36,034 --> 00:42:38,074
Speaker 9: It's a it's always a little stressful though, like you

944
00:42:38,114 --> 00:42:39,714
Speaker 9: wake up and you're like, I gotta be on the radio.

945
00:42:39,714 --> 00:42:40,314
Speaker 9: What's twenty minutes.

946
00:42:40,354 --> 00:42:40,913
Speaker 7: I gotta like.

947
00:42:41,754 --> 00:42:43,193
Speaker 9: Find the energy, you know.

948
00:42:43,714 --> 00:42:44,513
Speaker 4: But that was good.

949
00:42:44,554 --> 00:42:46,114
Speaker 3: It's good, like those guys good stuff.

950
00:42:46,314 --> 00:42:48,474
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a good way to kick off my commute,

951
00:42:48,674 --> 00:42:51,473
Speaker 4: Well quick on qick on the radio, and here we

952
00:42:51,554 --> 00:42:53,714
Speaker 4: go and as soon as like right at the very

953
00:42:53,754 --> 00:42:55,834
Speaker 4: beginning today, Usually it's like in the middle, I'm like, hey,

954
00:42:55,834 --> 00:42:56,194
Speaker 4: I know that.

955
00:42:56,594 --> 00:42:57,553
Speaker 9: Do you find it funny though, Paul?

956
00:42:57,554 --> 00:42:58,754
Speaker 6: When you do, like when you go, I know you're

957
00:42:58,754 --> 00:43:00,953
Speaker 6: going felder Mass later today. But sometimes I feel like

958
00:43:00,994 --> 00:43:03,074
Speaker 6: I'm like, crap, I'm playing the hits off a PU

959
00:43:03,154 --> 00:43:05,433
Speaker 6: right now. Like I know, it's like I've already workshopped

960
00:43:05,473 --> 00:43:06,953
Speaker 6: this take, you know, like you just kind of.

961
00:43:06,873 --> 00:43:08,913
Speaker 4: Go to what you've already knew things you're gonna come

962
00:43:08,994 --> 00:43:12,674
Speaker 4: up with number one. I always find it funny that,

963
00:43:14,114 --> 00:43:16,234
Speaker 4: you know, like Andy and I used to joke around

964
00:43:16,234 --> 00:43:18,234
Speaker 4: and all, you know, did you happen to hear me say?

965
00:43:18,514 --> 00:43:22,433
Speaker 4: And we would always say no, what I listen to

966
00:43:22,473 --> 00:43:24,553
Speaker 4: you every day. I don't need to hear what you like.

967
00:43:24,594 --> 00:43:26,154
Speaker 6: I know what you just So that's because I know

968
00:43:26,194 --> 00:43:28,234
Speaker 6: you guys have commutes, So I'm always when I go on,

969
00:43:28,274 --> 00:43:30,113
Speaker 6: I'm always assuming you guys are tuning in, and I'm

970
00:43:30,114 --> 00:43:31,473
Speaker 6: just imagining you guys being like.

971
00:43:31,393 --> 00:43:34,393
Speaker 9: Oh, yeah, dude, that's what you said. Yes, get some

972
00:43:34,473 --> 00:43:35,234
Speaker 9: new material.

973
00:43:36,274 --> 00:43:39,913
Speaker 3: It's true, it's a new audience. Really there is some crossover,

974
00:43:40,074 --> 00:43:42,953
Speaker 3: but most of the people listening did not listen to.

975
00:43:42,953 --> 00:43:45,154
Speaker 4: Us no particular week. And I know that, you know,

976
00:43:45,154 --> 00:43:47,473
Speaker 4: people tease us, like, you know, the whole Sunshine dot

977
00:43:47,514 --> 00:43:50,594
Speaker 4: Com thing, But in this particular week it is a

978
00:43:50,634 --> 00:43:53,394
Speaker 4: little bit easier to do it because you're talking about

979
00:43:53,433 --> 00:43:56,953
Speaker 4: more things that went well than have typically been the

980
00:43:56,994 --> 00:44:01,354
Speaker 4: case this year. So that's one of them, you know.

981
00:44:01,714 --> 00:44:04,714
Speaker 4: And you know, I know, I really misspoke. He played

982
00:44:04,714 --> 00:44:06,834
Speaker 4: two plays in the first half, right, I know, I lied.

983
00:44:07,433 --> 00:44:09,754
Speaker 4: I was called out on my lives according to somebody

984
00:44:09,794 --> 00:44:10,633
Speaker 4: on Twitter.

985
00:44:11,314 --> 00:44:13,033
Speaker 9: It was like it was five snaps. I just don't

986
00:44:13,034 --> 00:44:13,714
Speaker 9: care about it.

987
00:44:13,834 --> 00:44:16,673
Speaker 4: I just I still don't. But I mean, fairest far

988
00:44:17,034 --> 00:44:22,433
Speaker 4: I lied, didn't recall the first two plays. But you

989
00:44:22,473 --> 00:44:24,274
Speaker 4: don't have to go out of your way to sort

990
00:44:24,274 --> 00:44:26,913
Speaker 4: of manufacture Hey, you know, it was really good, like

991
00:44:26,953 --> 00:44:29,634
Speaker 4: you know, the the blocking on the on the punt,

992
00:44:29,754 --> 00:44:31,953
Speaker 4: on the punt return, you know, like, no, like there

993
00:44:31,953 --> 00:44:33,433
Speaker 4: were a lot of things that were really good in

994
00:44:33,473 --> 00:44:35,913
Speaker 4: the game. You know, they get nine sacks, they shut

995
00:44:35,953 --> 00:44:39,954
Speaker 4: down DeAndre Swift. You talking about the secondary being really tight,

996
00:44:40,314 --> 00:44:43,154
Speaker 4: the you know, Joey slide making four field goals in

997
00:44:43,234 --> 00:44:46,393
Speaker 4: tough conditions, you know, the offense showing some wrinkles, the

998
00:44:46,433 --> 00:44:48,794
Speaker 4: goal line play. To Jalen, you don't have to make

999
00:44:48,834 --> 00:44:51,594
Speaker 4: any of that up. It makes it a lot easier

1000
00:44:51,634 --> 00:44:53,594
Speaker 4: for us to sort of talk on these shows.

1001
00:44:54,514 --> 00:44:57,354
Speaker 3: Paul and I were talking before you got here about

1002
00:44:57,514 --> 00:45:01,913
Speaker 3: Mayo's press conference today. He was mentioning that a VP

1003
00:45:02,194 --> 00:45:05,633
Speaker 3: deserves a lot of credit for the development so far

1004
00:45:05,834 --> 00:45:07,553
Speaker 3: of Drake may I don't know if you heard any

1005
00:45:07,554 --> 00:45:10,394
Speaker 3: of that you had a reaction to it was there next.

1006
00:45:10,194 --> 00:45:12,113
Speaker 9: To Paul, No. I think.

1007
00:45:12,154 --> 00:45:15,754
Speaker 6: I mean, look, I think nobody's caught more criticism than

1008
00:45:15,794 --> 00:45:18,433
Speaker 6: a VP, maybe, Like I mean, the hiring of him,

1009
00:45:18,674 --> 00:45:20,473
Speaker 6: the whole thing. I mean we I mean we we

1010
00:45:20,554 --> 00:45:22,594
Speaker 6: had it here on our show for for six months,

1011
00:45:22,634 --> 00:45:25,713
Speaker 6: you know, figuring out tight pants guy or what kind.

1012
00:45:25,594 --> 00:45:26,234
Speaker 9: Offense it is.

1013
00:45:26,274 --> 00:45:28,873
Speaker 6: So I just think, like the bottom line for me

1014
00:45:28,994 --> 00:45:30,834
Speaker 6: is that the players really seem to like him. I mean,

1015
00:45:30,834 --> 00:45:32,713
Speaker 6: you saw Hunter Henry kind of light up a little

1016
00:45:32,714 --> 00:45:33,554
Speaker 6: bit talking about.

1017
00:45:33,393 --> 00:45:33,834
Speaker 9: Him as well.

1018
00:45:33,913 --> 00:45:36,754
Speaker 6: So I don't know, it's just it's so hard, Like

1019
00:45:37,234 --> 00:45:39,594
Speaker 6: he's a really experienced guy. He's played in the NFL,

1020
00:45:39,634 --> 00:45:41,994
Speaker 6: and I think that's worth a lot to the players

1021
00:45:42,034 --> 00:45:44,393
Speaker 6: and you know, look, if Drake, I think going back

1022
00:45:44,393 --> 00:45:46,194
Speaker 6: to like you know what we kind of got into yesterday, Like,

1023
00:45:46,194 --> 00:45:48,834
Speaker 6: if Drake continues to improve and the mistakes start to

1024
00:45:48,834 --> 00:45:51,314
Speaker 6: come down, and then you really get a sense of

1025
00:45:51,354 --> 00:45:53,754
Speaker 6: what this offense is because I feel like over these

1026
00:45:53,794 --> 00:45:56,594
Speaker 6: first whatever it is, like eleven weeks, you've been seeing

1027
00:45:56,794 --> 00:45:59,553
Speaker 6: little pieces of it. But even going back to the

1028
00:45:59,594 --> 00:46:01,433
Speaker 6: locker room, just hearing from these guys talking about the

1029
00:46:01,514 --> 00:46:04,674
Speaker 6: Rams offense, which kind of similar thing Jonathan Jones saying

1030
00:46:04,714 --> 00:46:06,913
Speaker 6: it all starts with the run. It all starts with

1031
00:46:06,913 --> 00:46:08,873
Speaker 6: the run for these guys. If they get running on you,

1032
00:46:09,034 --> 00:46:11,473
Speaker 6: it's going to open up their whole offense. And the

1033
00:46:11,473 --> 00:46:13,274
Speaker 6: Patriots haven't been able to run. And I think it's

1034
00:46:13,274 --> 00:46:15,993
Speaker 6: a similar thing with their offense, where you know, if

1035
00:46:16,433 --> 00:46:18,514
Speaker 6: they can get a game where they put it all together,

1036
00:46:18,554 --> 00:46:21,393
Speaker 6: maybe you'll actually get to see what Alex van Pelt

1037
00:46:21,393 --> 00:46:23,594
Speaker 6: in this offense is capable of. And there's no guarantee

1038
00:46:23,594 --> 00:46:25,674
Speaker 6: that it happens. I mean there's seven games left, but

1039
00:46:25,873 --> 00:46:27,953
Speaker 6: I think that's what they're they're working towards. And I

1040
00:46:28,034 --> 00:46:29,553
Speaker 6: think if they do do that and you see Drake

1041
00:46:29,554 --> 00:46:32,473
Speaker 6: cut down on the mistakes, and you start to see

1042
00:46:32,473 --> 00:46:34,393
Speaker 6: some of the plays, like Paul says, where that was

1043
00:46:34,514 --> 00:46:36,553
Speaker 6: Matrios play that was a real play, that wasn't really

1044
00:46:36,554 --> 00:46:37,674
Speaker 6: you know, and all of a sudden, it's like we

1045
00:46:37,714 --> 00:46:38,834
Speaker 6: had a bunch of those today.

1046
00:46:39,074 --> 00:46:40,953
Speaker 9: I think that's when people really start to you know,

1047
00:46:40,994 --> 00:46:41,433
Speaker 9: believe me.

1048
00:46:41,514 --> 00:46:44,993
Speaker 3: And that's as much, like I said earlier, as much

1049
00:46:44,994 --> 00:46:47,593
Speaker 3: as I love watching him run around and everything, I

1050
00:46:47,714 --> 00:46:50,393
Speaker 3: do want to see more plays on schedule the way

1051
00:46:50,433 --> 00:46:51,314
Speaker 3: they were drawn up.

1052
00:46:52,354 --> 00:46:52,553
Speaker 12: You know.

1053
00:46:52,953 --> 00:46:55,274
Speaker 3: Obviously the offensive line has a lot to do with that,

1054
00:46:55,393 --> 00:46:58,314
Speaker 3: but that's the next step I think for him, we

1055
00:46:58,674 --> 00:47:01,553
Speaker 3: need to see that, and of course the turnovers. Let's

1056
00:47:01,594 --> 00:47:06,993
Speaker 3: eliminate the mistakes. But seeing that offense run as it's drawn.

1057
00:47:06,794 --> 00:47:08,354
Speaker 9: Up, absolutely absolutely.

1058
00:47:08,354 --> 00:47:11,234
Speaker 6: I mean you've seen a little, like I said, peaks

1059
00:47:11,234 --> 00:47:16,754
Speaker 6: in here and there, you know, like you've seen it done,

1060
00:47:17,154 --> 00:47:18,634
Speaker 6: see a bunch, you know, maybe at the end of

1061
00:47:18,674 --> 00:47:19,913
Speaker 6: the year we get a full game of them, and

1062
00:47:19,953 --> 00:47:21,953
Speaker 6: it's like, oh my god, this is like it's all

1063
00:47:21,994 --> 00:47:25,034
Speaker 6: working together, you know, as Jonathan Jones described the rams

1064
00:47:25,034 --> 00:47:27,274
Speaker 6: off les of you know, all the bootlegs and all

1065
00:47:27,274 --> 00:47:29,513
Speaker 6: the play actions and the run and the linebackers are

1066
00:47:29,554 --> 00:47:31,913
Speaker 6: over committing and you know, it just opens.

1067
00:47:31,674 --> 00:47:33,674
Speaker 9: Up that that whole playbook. So we'll see if the

1068
00:47:33,714 --> 00:47:35,074
Speaker 9: Patriots are able to get to that point.

1069
00:47:35,634 --> 00:47:37,473
Speaker 3: Eight five to five past five hundred is the eight

1070
00:47:37,554 --> 00:47:40,314
Speaker 3: ticket hot line. That's eight five to five pass five hundred.

1071
00:47:40,834 --> 00:47:44,673
Speaker 3: Let's go to the TPX hotline and we'll start with

1072
00:47:44,913 --> 00:47:47,113
Speaker 3: Melvin in Tennessee what's up Melvin.

1073
00:47:47,873 --> 00:47:48,794
Speaker 7: Tyry is going on?

1074
00:47:48,873 --> 00:47:54,073
Speaker 13: Hey, Melvin, Right, it's funny that we're talking about. See

1075
00:47:54,154 --> 00:47:56,274
Speaker 13: what we're playing the rams this. I talked about this

1076
00:47:56,393 --> 00:47:58,714
Speaker 13: not too long ago with Rare, but I think, like

1077
00:47:58,834 --> 00:48:02,074
Speaker 13: Tomrio Douglas is probably about on the same level different players,

1078
00:48:02,074 --> 00:48:07,433
Speaker 13: though I'm sure two to hour averages more yards catch,

1079
00:48:07,554 --> 00:48:10,074
Speaker 13: but I think they're about on the same level, but

1080
00:48:10,754 --> 00:48:13,714
Speaker 13: as far as how good they are. But two to

1081
00:48:13,794 --> 00:48:16,274
Speaker 13: hour looks so much better when he's really at that

1082
00:48:16,473 --> 00:48:19,113
Speaker 13: three row and he hasn't one and two in front

1083
00:48:19,114 --> 00:48:21,393
Speaker 13: of him. So we got this kind of exposure with

1084
00:48:21,873 --> 00:48:24,714
Speaker 13: Mario Douglas where he's you know, been able to see

1085
00:48:24,754 --> 00:48:28,434
Speaker 13: a lot, probably you know, more courage and being probably

1086
00:48:28,433 --> 00:48:31,113
Speaker 13: a number one in tuish even though he's probably really

1087
00:48:31,154 --> 00:48:33,274
Speaker 13: not that good. So as soon as we get we

1088
00:48:33,594 --> 00:48:36,354
Speaker 13: do need two receivers, because it'll be great once to

1089
00:48:36,354 --> 00:48:39,114
Speaker 13: get those two receivers, we can knot come back down

1090
00:48:39,594 --> 00:48:42,794
Speaker 13: and hopefully Drake and him and this year or whatever

1091
00:48:43,314 --> 00:48:45,433
Speaker 13: and been able to establish to get him the same

1092
00:48:45,473 --> 00:48:47,433
Speaker 13: page so when we need him, he'll be able to

1093
00:48:47,473 --> 00:48:49,513
Speaker 13: come through for us, kind of be a bankie or

1094
00:48:49,594 --> 00:48:53,674
Speaker 13: a good receiver'll have something with but just he's you know,

1095
00:48:53,714 --> 00:48:55,473
Speaker 13: he's just had a position right now or maybe a

1096
00:48:55,473 --> 00:48:57,794
Speaker 13: little bit out of his role, kind of similar to

1097
00:48:57,873 --> 00:49:02,073
Speaker 13: what we had with Jacobe. He kind of found his role,

1098
00:49:02,154 --> 00:49:04,194
Speaker 13: but he was probably a little bit out of his place.

1099
00:49:04,234 --> 00:49:06,873
Speaker 13: But I hope that you know, it's once we get

1100
00:49:06,913 --> 00:49:09,913
Speaker 13: to that stage, we kind of have something like Myers

1101
00:49:09,913 --> 00:49:13,274
Speaker 13: who left before. But I hope that you know that

1102
00:49:13,594 --> 00:49:15,354
Speaker 13: we'll be able to establish something by the time he

1103
00:49:15,473 --> 00:49:17,553
Speaker 13: gets a good one and two in front of him,

1104
00:49:17,634 --> 00:49:20,873
Speaker 13: kind of like Boyd was but Cincinnati a little bit

1105
00:49:20,994 --> 00:49:24,513
Speaker 13: still those same receivers, but good exposure, good experience right now.

1106
00:49:24,554 --> 00:49:26,553
Speaker 13: But we need us keep in front of him so

1107
00:49:26,554 --> 00:49:29,114
Speaker 13: that he can go back in his proper road. But

1108
00:49:29,274 --> 00:49:29,913
Speaker 13: that's what I got.

1109
00:49:29,913 --> 00:49:30,473
Speaker 4: I would agree.

1110
00:49:31,393 --> 00:49:36,154
Speaker 3: Would you guys be into not coming back as a one,

1111
00:49:36,194 --> 00:49:37,873
Speaker 3: maybe not even as a two. But bringing back to

1112
00:49:37,994 --> 00:49:42,594
Speaker 3: Kobe Myers next year, No, no, really, why not?

1113
00:49:43,114 --> 00:49:44,274
Speaker 4: Because I think they need better.

1114
00:49:44,354 --> 00:49:47,034
Speaker 9: I want speed, I have enough three four fives.

1115
00:49:47,194 --> 00:49:49,594
Speaker 4: Yea, I need a guy that impacts.

1116
00:49:49,754 --> 00:49:52,074
Speaker 3: But you still get the other guys.

1117
00:49:52,354 --> 00:49:54,554
Speaker 4: Oh okay, and then so who goes?

1118
00:49:54,873 --> 00:49:55,433
Speaker 7: You like him?

1119
00:49:55,514 --> 00:49:56,034
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1120
00:49:56,154 --> 00:49:59,393
Speaker 4: So in other words, he replaces Booty Douglas. Yeah, I'm

1121
00:49:59,393 --> 00:50:01,393
Speaker 4: fine with that. I mean I would. I don't think

1122
00:50:01,393 --> 00:50:03,794
Speaker 4: you need to do that. I think you just hold

1123
00:50:03,794 --> 00:50:07,274
Speaker 4: onto Booty and Douglas. You could get rid of Baker, sure,

1124
00:50:07,393 --> 00:50:10,594
Speaker 4: but like I just feel like you need a couple

1125
00:50:10,634 --> 00:50:13,594
Speaker 4: of dynamic receivers. Like well, with with the Ram.

1126
00:50:14,473 --> 00:50:18,674
Speaker 3: You're not thinking strategically. You're not thinking strategically. If we

1127
00:50:18,714 --> 00:50:21,434
Speaker 3: bring back Myers, we get another listener and his father.

1128
00:50:21,594 --> 00:50:25,074
Speaker 9: Oh that's true, growing for one for.

1129
00:50:25,114 --> 00:50:27,794
Speaker 4: The I like Jakobe Myers from the first day we

1130
00:50:27,834 --> 00:50:31,194
Speaker 4: saw him and as an undrafted rookie, you know, I

1131
00:50:31,234 --> 00:50:34,553
Speaker 4: remember Megan O'Brien was like, he's gonna end up leading

1132
00:50:34,594 --> 00:50:37,674
Speaker 4: the team and like receiving, and we were like she

1133
00:50:37,834 --> 00:50:40,754
Speaker 4: was right, Like we liked him from the start, Like

1134
00:50:40,873 --> 00:50:44,034
Speaker 4: how you know, he just kept showing up and making plays,

1135
00:50:44,634 --> 00:50:46,993
Speaker 4: and I think he continued to do that until they

1136
00:50:47,114 --> 00:50:49,993
Speaker 4: decided that you know, it was a million too much

1137
00:50:49,994 --> 00:50:52,114
Speaker 4: for them, and he went to the Raiders.

1138
00:50:52,594 --> 00:50:57,994
Speaker 9: Well, I would hope that after catch, Paul, we should

1139
00:50:58,034 --> 00:50:58,714
Speaker 9: we deserve.

1140
00:50:58,514 --> 00:51:01,913
Speaker 4: The deserved a per reception. But one of them was

1141
00:51:01,953 --> 00:51:03,953
Speaker 4: after the catch, so it became better.

1142
00:51:04,154 --> 00:51:05,234
Speaker 9: We deserve not to live that one.

1143
00:51:05,393 --> 00:51:08,393
Speaker 4: That's a great hill that I died on that I

1144
00:51:08,473 --> 00:51:11,593
Speaker 4: was right. Yeah, so many others that I'm like Monk Cooks.

1145
00:51:11,274 --> 00:51:14,553
Speaker 6: But no, I I just would hope that Jalen Polk

1146
00:51:14,554 --> 00:51:16,873
Speaker 6: could develop into that. And maybe that's too far gone

1147
00:51:16,913 --> 00:51:17,473
Speaker 6: at this point, but.

1148
00:51:17,554 --> 00:51:20,113
Speaker 4: I think can be a Tyler Boyd kind of guy,

1149
00:51:20,194 --> 00:51:23,474
Speaker 4: like a physical third down receiver who moves the chains,

1150
00:51:23,913 --> 00:51:26,873
Speaker 4: doesn't flash. You know, he's not gonna he's not gonna

1151
00:51:26,913 --> 00:51:28,913
Speaker 4: get you like one hundred and fifty yards when he

1152
00:51:28,953 --> 00:51:31,154
Speaker 4: has a great game, but he might get you seventy

1153
00:51:31,154 --> 00:51:35,274
Speaker 4: for seventy four yards and resulting resulting in three or

1154
00:51:35,314 --> 00:51:39,033
Speaker 4: four conversions. Yeah, he can be that kind of guy.

1155
00:51:39,433 --> 00:51:40,274
Speaker 9: That's that's where I'm ant.

1156
00:51:40,354 --> 00:51:43,314
Speaker 6: I just I think my philosophy though, is speed like

1157
00:51:43,514 --> 00:51:47,594
Speaker 6: just and not. He ran at the fort the combat

1158
00:51:47,634 --> 00:51:50,354
Speaker 6: like an electric kind of guy, and he doesn't have

1159
00:51:50,393 --> 00:51:50,834
Speaker 6: to be big.

1160
00:51:50,913 --> 00:51:52,393
Speaker 9: I just you know, but.

1161
00:51:52,514 --> 00:51:55,393
Speaker 4: I'd like it to be like not just like Taekwon

1162
00:51:55,473 --> 00:51:58,514
Speaker 4: Thornton's like speed, but you know, yeah.

1163
00:51:58,314 --> 00:52:01,954
Speaker 9: I didn't like that Tyreek Hill that's a millionaire.

1164
00:52:01,594 --> 00:52:04,554
Speaker 4: Gets someone like in aj Brown, you know, or Jamar

1165
00:52:04,634 --> 00:52:07,594
Speaker 4: Chase that like. And I'm not talking about that talent obviously,

1166
00:52:07,634 --> 00:52:10,513
Speaker 4: the talent levels through the willset justin know those guys,

1167
00:52:10,514 --> 00:52:13,354
Speaker 4: But I mean a guy big enough to handle that

1168
00:52:13,473 --> 00:52:17,033
Speaker 4: load and be fast enough to get the defense on

1169
00:52:17,114 --> 00:52:20,033
Speaker 4: its heels, you know. Those kinds of players, they they

1170
00:52:20,354 --> 00:52:21,593
Speaker 4: I think they badly need.

1171
00:52:21,674 --> 00:52:24,033
Speaker 6: That's why when we talk about Travis Hunter, it's like

1172
00:52:24,074 --> 00:52:27,674
Speaker 6: I can't dismiss him because that's the kind of athlete

1173
00:52:27,754 --> 00:52:30,393
Speaker 6: that you want, even if he's gonna play defense, you know.

1174
00:52:30,433 --> 00:52:32,953
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it's gonna be. Really I think

1175
00:52:32,953 --> 00:52:35,713
Speaker 4: this is one of the most interesting draft guys coming

1176
00:52:35,794 --> 00:52:39,314
Speaker 4: out in recent memory, just because of where he fits

1177
00:52:39,314 --> 00:52:41,993
Speaker 4: and hard everybody thinks it's a better corner, right yeah, yeah,

1178
00:52:42,634 --> 00:52:45,674
Speaker 4: And then how does that factor into his financials?

1179
00:52:45,834 --> 00:52:45,953
Speaker 7: Right?

1180
00:52:46,354 --> 00:52:56,993
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Speaker 8: Thank A lot of you said from this week hand

1228
00:55:30,794 --> 00:55:34,074
Speaker 8: of sets of urgency to drug message, how do you

1229
00:55:34,114 --> 00:55:36,553
Speaker 8: take that? And we kind of talked about kind of

1230
00:55:36,554 --> 00:55:39,354
Speaker 8: what you said to your offense after practice one one.

1231
00:55:39,234 --> 00:55:41,194
Speaker 4: Day last week. What kind of things go through your mind?

1232
00:55:41,274 --> 00:55:43,354
Speaker 8: Is to try to get back to back wins for

1233
00:55:43,393 --> 00:55:43,913
Speaker 8: the first time.

1234
00:55:44,114 --> 00:55:45,354
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's build on it from last week.

1235
00:55:45,354 --> 00:55:46,993
Speaker 16: I think, you know, a big winning in Chicago and

1236
00:55:46,994 --> 00:55:49,674
Speaker 16: a you know, way away game and in a big

1237
00:55:49,714 --> 00:55:53,354
Speaker 16: time atmosphere. Remember the time I was yelling set Hut

1238
00:55:53,354 --> 00:55:55,393
Speaker 16: for the snap a few times on fourth down before

1239
00:55:55,433 --> 00:55:57,154
Speaker 16: I called the time out and they couldn't hear me. So,

1240
00:55:57,473 --> 00:55:58,794
Speaker 16: you know, a big win from there, and just build

1241
00:55:58,794 --> 00:56:00,633
Speaker 16: on it, like I said, Like I said, since urgency,

1242
00:56:00,714 --> 00:56:03,354
Speaker 16: what what coast Mayo's appreciing. I think it starts with

1243
00:56:03,473 --> 00:56:05,513
Speaker 16: cleaning up, you know from from the game Sunday. Clean

1244
00:56:05,594 --> 00:56:07,513
Speaker 16: up some little things that I think we could have

1245
00:56:07,674 --> 00:56:09,754
Speaker 16: ended up being a bigger, bigger margin victory for us,

1246
00:56:09,754 --> 00:56:12,394
Speaker 16: you know, especially offensively. Defense did about all they could

1247
00:56:12,953 --> 00:56:15,994
Speaker 16: scoring in the red zone, and obviously my turnover. Gotta

1248
00:56:16,274 --> 00:56:18,553
Speaker 16: just keep on, you know, these little things that can

1249
00:56:18,634 --> 00:56:22,274
Speaker 16: kind of help build the complementary football that Coach Mayo's

1250
00:56:22,274 --> 00:56:24,033
Speaker 16: preaching about. So I think, you know, got another chance

1251
00:56:24,074 --> 00:56:26,553
Speaker 16: here at home, and l has come off a short week,

1252
00:56:26,634 --> 00:56:28,553
Speaker 16: so I gotta he'll prepare for them, and they're good

1253
00:56:28,594 --> 00:56:30,433
Speaker 16: upfront on defense, so I'm preparing for them.

1254
00:56:30,913 --> 00:56:32,153
Speaker 7: How important is I'm spent?

1255
00:56:32,314 --> 00:56:34,674
Speaker 14: Have Alex Beth all that to you this season?

1256
00:56:36,074 --> 00:56:36,953
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been huge.

1257
00:56:36,994 --> 00:56:38,674
Speaker 16: I think he's just a confidence booster for a quarterback,

1258
00:56:38,674 --> 00:56:40,953
Speaker 16: you know's a you love playing for the office quarter

1259
00:56:41,034 --> 00:56:43,114
Speaker 16: like a v P. You know, he's he's positive and

1260
00:56:43,114 --> 00:56:44,433
Speaker 16: also but at the same time, we'll coach you hard.

1261
00:56:44,433 --> 00:56:44,953
Speaker 7: You know, he's done it.

1262
00:56:44,953 --> 00:56:47,513
Speaker 16: He's played quarterback, played quarterback in this league and at

1263
00:56:47,514 --> 00:56:49,594
Speaker 16: a high level. So he knows what's you know, what

1264
00:56:49,754 --> 00:56:51,834
Speaker 16: needs to be done and in the task he knows

1265
00:56:51,834 --> 00:56:54,234
Speaker 16: the tall task as well, which is pretty you know,

1266
00:56:54,314 --> 00:56:56,913
Speaker 16: him and TC both kind of have the quarterback minds

1267
00:56:56,994 --> 00:57:00,114
Speaker 16: and coach McAdoo, So those those three are I know

1268
00:57:00,154 --> 00:57:01,674
Speaker 16: it's like how hard it is to play quarterback in

1269
00:57:01,674 --> 00:57:03,873
Speaker 16: this league and give a lot of leeway, but at

1270
00:57:03,873 --> 00:57:12,433
Speaker 16: the same time, you know what's you needs to be done. Yeah,

1271
00:57:12,473 --> 00:57:14,314
Speaker 16: I think I think I'm I'm working towards that. I

1272
00:57:14,314 --> 00:57:16,673
Speaker 16: think that's more of a perfective thing. I wouldn't say,

1273
00:57:16,874 --> 00:57:18,554
Speaker 16: you know me, I'm just trying to build on every day.

1274
00:57:18,674 --> 00:57:20,314
Speaker 16: I think, you know, it's more of a thing for

1275
00:57:20,434 --> 00:57:22,594
Speaker 16: the outside crowd to say. I think I'll come a

1276
00:57:22,634 --> 00:57:24,874
Speaker 16: long way within the system of learning the system, knowing

1277
00:57:24,874 --> 00:57:27,834
Speaker 16: what to do, knowing where guys line up, getting run

1278
00:57:27,914 --> 00:57:30,274
Speaker 16: in and out of run checks and and past things.

1279
00:57:30,314 --> 00:57:32,834
Speaker 16: So I think, but I wouldn't say, better to say

1280
00:57:32,834 --> 00:57:34,514
Speaker 16: more comfortable. I think, you know, a lot of stuff

1281
00:57:34,594 --> 00:57:37,113
Speaker 16: is coming to tie together. You know, I think still

1282
00:57:37,114 --> 00:57:39,234
Speaker 16: a lot of the same players, and you know, still

1283
00:57:39,274 --> 00:57:40,674
Speaker 16: the same player and the same players that you have

1284
00:57:40,754 --> 00:57:43,714
Speaker 16: made in college making today. So I think just building on,

1285
00:57:43,754 --> 00:57:46,234
Speaker 16: get more comfortable in this offense and just growing as

1286
00:57:46,234 --> 00:57:48,634
Speaker 16: a you know, A young young young adult.

1287
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Speaker 11: Asked the question.

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00:57:55,954 --> 00:57:56,593
Speaker 13: You were talking about.

1289
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Speaker 1: A d P said, like when the film comes up

1290
00:57:58,594 --> 00:58:00,514
Speaker 1: with him in Pittsburgh.

1291
00:58:01,154 --> 00:58:01,673
Speaker 7: Yes, cool.

1292
00:58:01,674 --> 00:58:03,554
Speaker 16: We saw some of his guitar fakes and his play

1293
00:58:03,554 --> 00:58:05,514
Speaker 16: action and a lot inner center and he.

1294
00:58:05,554 --> 00:58:07,034
Speaker 7: Threw it well so we could throw the football.

1295
00:58:07,114 --> 00:58:09,434
Speaker 16: So it's it's cool seeing he doesn't throw very much

1296
00:58:09,434 --> 00:58:11,514
Speaker 16: anymore that he's like throwing that one time, you know,

1297
00:58:11,594 --> 00:58:13,874
Speaker 16: this season, but seeing him you know, do some of

1298
00:58:13,914 --> 00:58:16,474
Speaker 16: the same actions or you know, throwing the same concepts,

1299
00:58:16,714 --> 00:58:18,954
Speaker 16: it's pretty cool. And it's pretty neat, you know, sitting

1300
00:58:18,954 --> 00:58:21,234
Speaker 16: out there on some old you know, granny film, so.

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00:58:22,194 --> 00:58:25,194
Speaker 15: Drink with the support, but like Kobe potential to cover

1302
00:58:25,314 --> 00:58:27,954
Speaker 15: as the starter and wasn't at all difficult to find

1303
00:58:27,994 --> 00:58:30,514
Speaker 15: when to speak up as a leader, knowing he's still.

1304
00:58:30,314 --> 00:58:32,673
Speaker 7: A captain and so stepping out. Yeah, that's a good question,

1305
00:58:32,714 --> 00:58:32,834
Speaker 7: you know.

1306
00:58:32,834 --> 00:58:34,154
Speaker 16: I think Jacobe is still, you know, a big time

1307
00:58:34,234 --> 00:58:36,714
Speaker 16: leader on this football team, you know, especially he's in

1308
00:58:36,754 --> 00:58:38,394
Speaker 16: my ear and I don't know if you'll see him

1309
00:58:38,394 --> 00:58:40,474
Speaker 16: on the sidelines, but it's basically like he's he's playing

1310
00:58:40,474 --> 00:58:42,234
Speaker 16: the game over there. He's yelling and yelling at me,

1311
00:58:42,274 --> 00:58:44,274
Speaker 16: you owing up the rest on the sideline. So he's

1312
00:58:44,354 --> 00:58:46,754
Speaker 16: very animated and that's his personality. I think everybody respects

1313
00:58:46,794 --> 00:58:49,034
Speaker 16: him on this football team, has a lot of respect

1314
00:58:49,074 --> 00:58:50,634
Speaker 16: and see what he did in the Jets game. I

1315
00:58:50,634 --> 00:58:52,434
Speaker 16: think that even just you know, raised the ball of

1316
00:58:52,514 --> 00:58:54,794
Speaker 16: him coming in after you know, me being the starter

1317
00:58:54,874 --> 00:58:56,234
Speaker 16: and him coming in and getting a big time win

1318
00:58:56,274 --> 00:58:58,154
Speaker 16: at home. I think those guys just respect him. And

1319
00:58:58,154 --> 00:58:59,914
Speaker 16: he's been, uh, he's been a lot to me of

1320
00:59:00,434 --> 00:59:03,674
Speaker 16: some mentor and and just trying to learn everything I can.

1321
00:59:04,154 --> 00:59:06,593
Speaker 16: He's probably tired of me asking questions, but I think

1322
00:59:06,794 --> 00:59:08,674
Speaker 16: he enjoys and we enjoy, you know, being the same

1323
00:59:08,754 --> 00:59:09,193
Speaker 16: room together.

1324
00:59:09,674 --> 00:59:11,834
Speaker 4: The virtual reality headsets, we're a bit of a storyline

1325
00:59:11,874 --> 00:59:12,314
Speaker 4: this summer.

1326
00:59:12,554 --> 00:59:14,354
Speaker 9: Was curious how much did those help you before you

1327
00:59:14,394 --> 00:59:15,153
Speaker 9: actually got to play?

1328
00:59:15,274 --> 00:59:17,113
Speaker 4: Do you still use them now that you're actually out

1329
00:59:17,154 --> 00:59:17,554
Speaker 4: on the feet.

1330
00:59:17,834 --> 00:59:18,034
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1331
00:59:18,074 --> 00:59:20,394
Speaker 16: They give just some of the base concepts and some

1332
00:59:20,434 --> 00:59:22,994
Speaker 16: of the concepts of carrying weekend week out, a little

1333
00:59:22,994 --> 00:59:24,834
Speaker 16: bit of the two minute stuff we have in some

1334
00:59:24,874 --> 00:59:26,754
Speaker 16: of the the VR. But the VRS, you know, been

1335
00:59:26,754 --> 00:59:29,674
Speaker 16: a nice edition. Thankful to the Pages of Regulation for

1336
00:59:29,674 --> 00:59:31,754
Speaker 16: forgetting that and using that. And I think it's some

1337
00:59:32,154 --> 00:59:33,794
Speaker 16: you know, every week just going back to the base

1338
00:59:33,834 --> 00:59:35,994
Speaker 16: stuff and sometimes we can throw in you know, the

1339
00:59:35,994 --> 00:59:37,954
Speaker 16: different team or the stadium we're playing in and get

1340
00:59:37,954 --> 00:59:38,474
Speaker 16: different looks.

1341
00:59:38,474 --> 00:59:42,593
Speaker 7: So it's pretty cool. He learned about yourself over the past,

1342
00:59:42,634 --> 00:59:43,593
Speaker 7: the five starts that.

1343
00:59:43,594 --> 00:59:50,434
Speaker 16: You learn about myself, I think just battling back from

1344
00:59:50,674 --> 00:59:53,834
Speaker 16: university University and times in the game and times in

1345
00:59:53,874 --> 00:59:56,434
Speaker 16: this season. You know, starting the season obviously you plan

1346
00:59:56,474 --> 00:59:58,914
Speaker 16: on you wanting to be the starter and handle University,

1347
00:59:59,394 --> 01:00:02,434
Speaker 16: you know, throughout the locker room or throughout, uh, just

1348
01:00:02,474 --> 01:00:04,274
Speaker 16: being on the football team and then the anniversity when

1349
01:00:04,274 --> 01:00:06,314
Speaker 16: I'm you're actually in there playing, So just channeling times,

1350
01:00:06,354 --> 01:00:08,834
Speaker 16: you know, difficult times and and bouncing back and no

1351
01:00:08,914 --> 01:00:11,554
Speaker 16: one at this position that you know, these guys look

1352
01:00:11,634 --> 01:00:13,754
Speaker 16: to me and and know that you know, kind of

1353
01:00:13,754 --> 01:00:16,874
Speaker 16: get a you know, keep a keep a up kind

1354
01:00:16,874 --> 01:00:19,954
Speaker 16: of upbeat mindset and up your personality because these guys

1355
01:00:20,154 --> 01:00:23,234
Speaker 16: you'll follow me and listen to me, and you'll respect me.

1356
01:00:24,194 --> 01:00:24,514
Speaker 3: All right.

1357
01:00:24,514 --> 01:00:27,394
Speaker 8: I know you mentioned you know as a football fan,

1358
01:00:27,434 --> 01:00:29,114
Speaker 8: you know, getting the face guys like Aaron Rodgers.

1359
01:00:29,114 --> 01:00:31,234
Speaker 5: This week he gets to face Matthew Stafford.

1360
01:00:31,274 --> 01:00:34,153
Speaker 16: What is uh is he somebody you followed as a.

1361
01:00:34,154 --> 01:00:37,394
Speaker 7: Kid, and what is it against? Yeah, it is you

1362
01:00:37,394 --> 01:00:38,074
Speaker 7: know Matt Stafford.

1363
01:00:38,074 --> 01:00:39,554
Speaker 16: I think you know back in the days watching lines,

1364
01:00:39,594 --> 01:00:41,954
Speaker 16: if you know, always saw him playing on Thanksgiving and

1365
01:00:41,954 --> 01:00:44,834
Speaker 16: seeing him play is is pretty cool with Thanksgiving coming up.

1366
01:00:44,914 --> 01:00:47,994
Speaker 16: So anytime you play a Super Bowl winning quarterback and

1367
01:00:48,234 --> 01:00:49,714
Speaker 16: you know, guy in this the league has done a long.

1368
01:00:49,594 --> 01:00:51,834
Speaker 7: Time and play at a high level, it's cool to watch.

1369
01:00:51,874 --> 01:00:53,914
Speaker 16: I think I'll definitely take a moment and always try

1370
01:00:53,954 --> 01:00:55,194
Speaker 16: to watch them up and see what they do or

1371
01:00:55,234 --> 01:00:56,754
Speaker 16: see how he's throwing it. I think that's kind of

1372
01:00:56,794 --> 01:00:59,034
Speaker 16: the coolest thing that I try to do. And other

1373
01:00:59,034 --> 01:01:00,834
Speaker 16: than that, just hopefully get a chance to meet him

1374
01:01:00,834 --> 01:01:03,114
Speaker 16: and you know, respect his game and you hope that

1375
01:01:03,194 --> 01:01:04,194
Speaker 16: you get a chance to come out with a win

1376
01:01:04,274 --> 01:01:05,834
Speaker 16: against you big time quarterback like that.

1377
01:01:05,874 --> 01:01:07,314
Speaker 7: It's always a pretty cool feeling.

1378
01:01:07,954 --> 01:01:11,554
Speaker 10: Sure, sliding and ask you like a plant out of

1379
01:01:11,554 --> 01:01:13,633
Speaker 10: the sas you know, he joked that there might be.

1380
01:01:13,554 --> 01:01:15,434
Speaker 3: A sliding period in practice today.

1381
01:01:15,914 --> 01:01:17,554
Speaker 5: Has that been conveyed you often, like the.

1382
01:01:17,634 --> 01:01:19,914
Speaker 3: Coaching sap in terms just working on sliding and things

1383
01:01:19,954 --> 01:01:20,314
Speaker 3: like that.

1384
01:01:20,514 --> 01:01:23,113
Speaker 16: Yeah, I wouldn't say working on you know, I play

1385
01:01:23,154 --> 01:01:24,994
Speaker 16: baseball growing up, and you know if I've slid, and

1386
01:01:25,274 --> 01:01:27,834
Speaker 16: one time slid against the Jets, you know got hit

1387
01:01:27,874 --> 01:01:28,234
Speaker 16: in the head.

1388
01:01:28,314 --> 01:01:29,994
Speaker 7: So I think there's times and places for it.

1389
01:01:30,034 --> 01:01:31,634
Speaker 16: I think I definitely do a good better job of

1390
01:01:31,914 --> 01:01:33,874
Speaker 16: getting down taking care of my body, and and I

1391
01:01:33,914 --> 01:01:35,434
Speaker 16: know that I took one and you know the Bears

1392
01:01:35,474 --> 01:01:36,794
Speaker 16: game that was that was done with the kind of

1393
01:01:36,834 --> 01:01:39,674
Speaker 16: third quarter, So you know, I'm mindful of it, and

1394
01:01:39,714 --> 01:01:40,633
Speaker 16: the coaches are doing good job.

1395
01:01:40,674 --> 01:01:43,194
Speaker 7: TC does guys job emphasizing it.

1396
01:01:43,274 --> 01:01:45,434
Speaker 16: So I think it's uh, you know, it's kind of

1397
01:01:45,474 --> 01:01:47,994
Speaker 16: different when you're between the lines and you're trying to

1398
01:01:48,034 --> 01:01:49,634
Speaker 16: show your competitive side, so you.

1399
01:01:49,794 --> 01:01:52,073
Speaker 4: Can show a lot of frustration. I guess i'd say

1400
01:01:52,234 --> 01:01:55,794
Speaker 4: you feel is not letting your emotions because you were

1401
01:01:55,834 --> 01:01:58,394
Speaker 4: not showing emotions something it comes naturally or is that

1402
01:01:58,434 --> 01:01:59,394
Speaker 4: something new for are talking about?

1403
01:02:00,634 --> 01:02:02,714
Speaker 16: Yeah, things come naturally, you know. Growing up, I think

1404
01:02:03,434 --> 01:02:05,474
Speaker 16: I was always kind of you know, even keel mindset.

1405
01:02:05,674 --> 01:02:07,674
Speaker 16: And at the same time, I think, you know, showing

1406
01:02:07,674 --> 01:02:09,634
Speaker 16: frustration at times can be good, can be good for

1407
01:02:09,634 --> 01:02:11,794
Speaker 16: the offense, and can kind of fire those guys up,

1408
01:02:11,834 --> 01:02:14,554
Speaker 16: So kind of mixing and kind of feeling that out

1409
01:02:14,754 --> 01:02:16,514
Speaker 16: of you know, when I could use the expressity in practice,

1410
01:02:16,554 --> 01:02:19,034
Speaker 16: I think getting frustrated and and showing hey, you know,

1411
01:02:19,074 --> 01:02:21,394
Speaker 16: we pick it up is a is sometimes can be good.

1412
01:02:21,514 --> 01:02:23,714
Speaker 16: So I think you're just bouncing that aspect of it

1413
01:02:23,754 --> 01:02:25,914
Speaker 16: and at the same time, you know, round those guys

1414
01:02:25,914 --> 01:02:28,114
Speaker 16: of pumping them up, and that's everybody you know feels

1415
01:02:28,114 --> 01:02:29,274
Speaker 16: good when you get pumped up.

1416
01:02:29,394 --> 01:02:32,874
Speaker 6: So's lying people have to talk about having a short

1417
01:02:32,914 --> 01:02:34,834
Speaker 6: memory of being fans specials from the games.

1418
01:02:34,994 --> 01:02:37,514
Speaker 13: If you agree and you saw the advantage to keep

1419
01:02:37,554 --> 01:02:38,154
Speaker 13: the number.

1420
01:02:38,114 --> 01:02:40,394
Speaker 16: Short, yeah, short memory, that's it, you know. I think

1421
01:02:40,394 --> 01:02:41,834
Speaker 16: it's one of the biggest things for playing quarterback in

1422
01:02:41,874 --> 01:02:44,634
Speaker 16: this league. I think you see you know this past Sunday.

1423
01:02:44,634 --> 01:02:46,954
Speaker 16: You know Jared Goff, I think you know his game,

1424
01:02:47,474 --> 01:02:49,474
Speaker 16: you just turnovers and what he does to come back

1425
01:02:49,474 --> 01:02:51,234
Speaker 16: and leave that football team to win. I think there's

1426
01:02:51,234 --> 01:02:53,194
Speaker 16: so many times throughout the season you see you know,

1427
01:02:53,274 --> 01:02:55,514
Speaker 16: quarterbacks especially you know at this level that are you

1428
01:02:55,594 --> 01:02:56,914
Speaker 16: handle a university.

1429
01:02:56,474 --> 01:02:58,874
Speaker 7: And you know, it's tough. It's tough.

1430
01:02:58,874 --> 01:03:00,594
Speaker 16: It's a tough feeling going out there after throwing an

1431
01:03:00,594 --> 01:03:03,514
Speaker 16: interception and dragging back out there, you know, throwing it again.

1432
01:03:03,634 --> 01:03:06,714
Speaker 16: So I think it's something that it's kind of you know,

1433
01:03:06,754 --> 01:03:09,914
Speaker 16: brushed under the rug when you're you're facing you know,

1434
01:03:09,994 --> 01:03:11,874
Speaker 16: good defense and you go out there and make a

1435
01:03:11,874 --> 01:03:13,994
Speaker 16: bad play and have to run back out there and

1436
01:03:14,274 --> 01:03:15,954
Speaker 16: facing those same guys and have to throw it again.

1437
01:03:16,034 --> 01:03:17,634
Speaker 16: So I think it's definitely having a short memory, like

1438
01:03:17,674 --> 01:03:20,034
Speaker 16: you said, and just trusting those guys around you. I

1439
01:03:20,074 --> 01:03:21,994
Speaker 16: think our team does a good job and especially the

1440
01:03:22,114 --> 01:03:24,794
Speaker 16: veterans and Jakobe has been great on the sideline with

1441
01:03:25,394 --> 01:03:27,634
Speaker 16: you know plays, and I think just bouncing back and

1442
01:03:27,674 --> 01:03:31,114
Speaker 16: seeing how you bounce back. The team released the uh

1443
01:03:31,594 --> 01:03:34,034
Speaker 16: miked up piece few from the game the other day,

1444
01:03:34,274 --> 01:03:37,074
Speaker 16: and a significant percentage of it was you basically pumping

1445
01:03:37,154 --> 01:03:39,434
Speaker 16: up teammates encouraging them during the game.

1446
01:03:39,994 --> 01:03:41,714
Speaker 4: Why is that important for you to sort of take

1447
01:03:41,754 --> 01:03:43,194
Speaker 4: time during during game day.

1448
01:03:43,194 --> 01:03:44,234
Speaker 7: To make sure that you're doing.

1449
01:03:44,074 --> 01:03:44,874
Speaker 13: That for your teammates.

1450
01:03:44,994 --> 01:03:47,073
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think, you know, pregames, kind of checking those

1451
01:03:47,154 --> 01:03:49,274
Speaker 16: chick in on the guys, see how they're feeling. I

1452
01:03:49,314 --> 01:03:51,794
Speaker 16: think I think I was saying a lot of the

1453
01:03:51,834 --> 01:03:53,554
Speaker 16: same things over and over, you know, and the miked

1454
01:03:53,594 --> 01:03:56,194
Speaker 16: up so I kind of keep it simple and and

1455
01:03:56,234 --> 01:03:57,794
Speaker 16: don't try to, you know, bug me by too much

1456
01:03:57,834 --> 01:03:59,714
Speaker 16: because everybody's kind of got their own thing on game day.

1457
01:03:59,874 --> 01:04:01,633
Speaker 16: But uh, yeah, I think pumping them up, like I said,

1458
01:04:01,674 --> 01:04:04,234
Speaker 16: you know, everybody feels feels good when you say, hey,

1459
01:04:04,354 --> 01:04:06,874
Speaker 16: you know, let's go or hey, nice play, or hey,

1460
01:04:06,874 --> 01:04:08,754
Speaker 16: great job up front. I think little things like that

1461
01:04:08,794 --> 01:04:10,594
Speaker 16: can go a long way. And being the leader on

1462
01:04:10,594 --> 01:04:13,794
Speaker 16: the offense and and pumping those guys up to keep.

1463
01:04:13,714 --> 01:04:16,714
Speaker 7: With your with your alignement. Again, they caught you in

1464
01:04:16,714 --> 01:04:18,514
Speaker 7: the locker group saying, let's go get something to eat tomorrow.

1465
01:04:18,594 --> 01:04:21,874
Speaker 16: G yeah when somebody, uh we got somebody, We'll say Wednesday,

1466
01:04:21,874 --> 01:04:22,834
Speaker 16: we have some needy Monday, so.

1467
01:04:24,354 --> 01:04:28,274
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, we went somewhere. Some are good, thank you.

1468
01:04:32,114 --> 01:04:34,154
Speaker 4: And now great moments in.

1469
01:04:36,434 --> 01:04:39,994
Speaker 3: History. Steve wants to know why Eric, do you hate emailers?

1470
01:04:40,194 --> 01:04:41,274
Speaker 4: Does he hate everybody?

1471
01:04:41,394 --> 01:04:44,474
Speaker 6: He's very hate bad emailers.

1472
01:04:44,874 --> 01:04:47,794
Speaker 9: See it doesn't like the weather. See it's raining, raining

1473
01:04:47,794 --> 01:04:48,794
Speaker 9: makes ericcause that boy.

1474
01:04:48,954 --> 01:04:50,914
Speaker 4: I have to admit the fact that I had to

1475
01:04:50,954 --> 01:04:54,153
Speaker 4: put jeans on this morning really got me mad. It's

1476
01:04:54,194 --> 01:04:55,474
Speaker 4: like August and I'm.

1477
01:04:55,314 --> 01:04:57,714
Speaker 9: Wearing long pants staring at the khaki shorts of sad

1478
01:04:58,314 --> 01:04:58,754
Speaker 9: not today.

1479
01:04:59,234 --> 01:05:00,954
Speaker 4: Good thing. I wo nied too, it was cold. And

1480
01:05:00,994 --> 01:05:04,234
Speaker 4: Paul wears mom jeans by the way, well, my jeans.

1481
01:05:03,954 --> 01:05:06,954
Speaker 3: Are like cool, they're so old, yeah.

1482
01:05:06,634 --> 01:05:09,274
Speaker 4: And there's so worn acid washed rip jeans. They're not

1483
01:05:09,994 --> 01:05:11,874
Speaker 4: they're not even acid washed. They just look at they're

1484
01:05:11,914 --> 01:05:13,394
Speaker 4: like you don't have like the.

1485
01:05:15,194 --> 01:05:16,073
Speaker 3: Belot shut up.

1486
01:05:16,114 --> 01:05:18,274
Speaker 9: I thought he was gonna wear like tight tape.

1487
01:05:18,474 --> 01:05:20,114
Speaker 4: That would be I don't do. I don't do the

1488
01:05:20,114 --> 01:05:23,394
Speaker 4: euro jeans for obvious reasons.

1489
01:05:24,354 --> 01:05:30,514
Speaker 3: That's another great moment. All right back here Patriots on

1490
01:05:30,594 --> 01:05:32,794
Speaker 3: filtered eight five five past five hundred is the A

1491
01:05:32,834 --> 01:05:38,314
Speaker 3: Sticket Hotline web radio at Patriots dot com, podcasts at

1492
01:05:38,314 --> 01:05:39,113
Speaker 3: Patriots dot com.

1493
01:05:39,154 --> 01:05:40,434
Speaker 4: You haven't made that mistake very long.

1494
01:05:40,514 --> 01:05:41,114
Speaker 3: No, I haven't.

1495
01:05:41,954 --> 01:05:45,514
Speaker 4: But you're a bully. You you mean to me on

1496
01:05:45,554 --> 01:05:48,034
Speaker 4: that's one of my attire. Quite often I do, and

1497
01:05:48,234 --> 01:05:50,874
Speaker 4: usually just this shirt, well at least, but now it's

1498
01:05:50,914 --> 01:05:53,674
Speaker 4: like I'm going back here, Paul was mom jeans and

1499
01:05:53,714 --> 01:05:54,914
Speaker 4: bell bottoms.

1500
01:05:54,514 --> 01:05:56,314
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, they're old fashion jean.

1501
01:05:56,194 --> 01:05:58,794
Speaker 4: You mean you get mean well that you were old

1502
01:05:58,794 --> 01:05:59,633
Speaker 4: fashioned about these?

1503
01:05:59,754 --> 01:06:02,434
Speaker 3: Well those are better, but back then you were wearing

1504
01:06:02,514 --> 01:06:03,994
Speaker 3: jeans that were like twenty years old.

1505
01:06:04,354 --> 01:06:07,354
Speaker 4: That that's probably gonna be on tomorrow. Like I have

1506
01:06:07,474 --> 01:06:09,434
Speaker 4: like four or five pairs of jeans. I rotate them

1507
01:06:09,474 --> 01:06:11,994
Speaker 4: every day, and you're like your weekend comes out with.

1508
01:06:11,954 --> 01:06:15,314
Speaker 3: You're a media personality, Poul, you need to like I get.

1509
01:06:15,274 --> 01:06:17,474
Speaker 4: Rid of the hood in the media or a person get.

1510
01:06:17,394 --> 01:06:19,834
Speaker 3: Rid of the hoods and you know, wear like grown

1511
01:06:19,914 --> 01:06:20,434
Speaker 3: up clothes.

1512
01:06:21,594 --> 01:06:23,714
Speaker 4: You see, he's mean, he's a bully.

1513
01:06:23,954 --> 01:06:26,234
Speaker 6: I know, well he he's like a running back. He

1514
01:06:26,274 --> 01:06:28,514
Speaker 6: sees the whole open up and he just goes right

1515
01:06:28,594 --> 01:06:30,274
Speaker 6: before it really does.

1516
01:06:30,354 --> 01:06:32,554
Speaker 4: This is after I gave him a compliment because I

1517
01:06:32,594 --> 01:06:35,754
Speaker 4: told him remember an argument about the offensive line late

1518
01:06:35,754 --> 01:06:38,594
Speaker 4: in the show, and I came to the realization that

1519
01:06:39,794 --> 01:06:42,954
Speaker 4: he was kind of right. No, I don't know. That's

1520
01:06:42,994 --> 01:06:45,434
Speaker 4: that's the realization is that I was being a hypocrite.

1521
01:06:46,154 --> 01:06:48,834
Speaker 9: So your back eye, I said, no, need to draft

1522
01:06:48,834 --> 01:06:49,673
Speaker 9: the tackle next year.

1523
01:06:50,274 --> 01:06:52,474
Speaker 4: I'm kind of Fred's kind of convincing me that they

1524
01:06:52,474 --> 01:06:54,794
Speaker 4: don't mose well, I'm not.

1525
01:06:55,394 --> 01:06:56,754
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's not what I'm saying.

1526
01:06:56,914 --> 01:07:01,474
Speaker 4: See now he's now, yeah, it's time for you and

1527
01:07:01,474 --> 01:07:04,394
Speaker 4: I get on him. Never so I said to him.

1528
01:07:04,474 --> 01:07:07,714
Speaker 4: It was one of the only times that Fred and

1529
01:07:07,754 --> 01:07:09,314
Speaker 4: I have been in an argument, and I was thinking

1530
01:07:09,314 --> 01:07:12,834
Speaker 4: to myself, I'm losing. I'm losing this argument. He's right,

1531
01:07:13,154 --> 01:07:13,634
Speaker 4: I'm wrong.

1532
01:07:13,714 --> 01:07:18,394
Speaker 3: Well smart, He's also thinking about the arguments he's going

1533
01:07:18,474 --> 01:07:21,713
Speaker 3: to have to have next off season, so he knew

1534
01:07:21,714 --> 01:07:23,754
Speaker 3: that he had to come around them.

1535
01:07:23,874 --> 01:07:28,354
Speaker 4: I'm just telling you you like made very valid points

1536
01:07:28,354 --> 01:07:31,074
Speaker 4: in that argument, and I was wrong. You did it

1537
01:07:31,314 --> 01:07:33,554
Speaker 4: like you don't have to like, He's right, you don't

1538
01:07:33,554 --> 01:07:37,194
Speaker 4: have to have an elite player, And I wasn't necessarily

1539
01:07:37,274 --> 01:07:39,274
Speaker 4: meaning like like you had to have an elite the

1540
01:07:39,274 --> 01:07:42,834
Speaker 4: best of the best. But you know, him talking about

1541
01:07:42,834 --> 01:07:44,314
Speaker 4: Matt Light was like, yeah, I mean I don't think

1542
01:07:44,354 --> 01:07:46,754
Speaker 4: Matt Light would make a difference on this team. But

1543
01:07:47,154 --> 01:07:53,113
Speaker 4: Matt Light and you know, two really good receivers, and

1544
01:07:53,554 --> 01:07:56,994
Speaker 4: you know, a better guard to plug in, you know,

1545
01:07:57,314 --> 01:08:00,714
Speaker 4: like a Steven Neil. You know, all of a sudden,

1546
01:08:00,994 --> 01:08:04,994
Speaker 4: you've upgraded four spots on your offense. Your quarterback is

1547
01:08:05,034 --> 01:08:06,834
Speaker 4: as good as we think he is. You should have

1548
01:08:06,834 --> 01:08:08,194
Speaker 4: a much better offense next year.

1549
01:08:08,594 --> 01:08:11,354
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm like I was telling Paul before you

1550
01:08:11,434 --> 01:08:15,594
Speaker 3: got here, I'd rather have five good guys, five good linemen,

1551
01:08:15,914 --> 01:08:18,073
Speaker 3: than one or two great and then the rest stink.

1552
01:08:18,714 --> 01:08:21,514
Speaker 3: Because I think five good guys on a line in

1553
01:08:21,914 --> 01:08:24,354
Speaker 3: today's NFL equals an elite line.

1554
01:08:24,554 --> 01:08:25,954
Speaker 9: Yeah, I would agree with that.

1555
01:08:25,994 --> 01:08:28,474
Speaker 3: If you have good coaches, that's what. If you have

1556
01:08:28,474 --> 01:08:29,394
Speaker 3: good coaches.

1557
01:08:29,074 --> 01:08:31,714
Speaker 6: That's what I think was the value of Scarnakia, where

1558
01:08:31,754 --> 01:08:33,714
Speaker 6: I'm sure you guys felt like every year, no matter

1559
01:08:33,994 --> 01:08:34,594
Speaker 6: who the line.

1560
01:08:34,634 --> 01:08:35,954
Speaker 9: I mean, maybe this is where your take.

1561
01:08:35,834 --> 01:08:38,514
Speaker 6: Was developed, Paul, was that every year they had Scarnekia

1562
01:08:38,514 --> 01:08:40,073
Speaker 6: and they were able to just kind of make chicken

1563
01:08:40,114 --> 01:08:41,354
Speaker 6: salad every.

1564
01:08:41,154 --> 01:08:44,794
Speaker 4: The Chiefs have I would say, three really good linemen

1565
01:08:44,874 --> 01:08:49,594
Speaker 4: and two social linemen. Yea, and they're elite. Yeah, the

1566
01:08:49,674 --> 01:08:54,154
Speaker 4: team is elite. Now the Lions have five really good linemen.

1567
01:08:54,474 --> 01:08:57,274
Speaker 4: I mean they have I mean, Penna suel is elite. Yeah,

1568
01:08:57,434 --> 01:08:59,554
Speaker 4: but they have I mean when they're healthy. I know

1569
01:08:59,554 --> 01:09:02,714
Speaker 4: they've been missing some guys. I think Ragno's out right

1570
01:09:02,754 --> 01:09:06,754
Speaker 4: the center, he's been hurt. But they have five pretty

1571
01:09:06,754 --> 01:09:08,834
Speaker 4: good linemen. Yeah, but that's an elite line.

1572
01:09:08,874 --> 01:09:12,514
Speaker 3: We talk about, you know, bringing in more talent next year.

1573
01:09:12,514 --> 01:09:15,114
Speaker 3: But I think one of the most important things this

1574
01:09:15,154 --> 01:09:16,634
Speaker 3: team is going to have to do in the off

1575
01:09:16,714 --> 01:09:21,114
Speaker 3: season is evaluate their assistant coaches. You know, is Scott

1576
01:09:21,154 --> 01:09:24,554
Speaker 3: Peters a good offensive line coach? I don't know. It's

1577
01:09:24,634 --> 01:09:27,474
Speaker 3: he's never been the guy yet. You know, in his career,

1578
01:09:27,474 --> 01:09:29,714
Speaker 3: he's always been an assistant. This is the first time

1579
01:09:29,834 --> 01:09:33,634
Speaker 3: he's been the offensive line coach. Maybe he's great, I

1580
01:09:33,674 --> 01:09:37,194
Speaker 3: don't know, but that the evaluation of these positional coaches

1581
01:09:37,754 --> 01:09:40,874
Speaker 3: is right up there with everything else they need to

1582
01:09:40,874 --> 01:09:44,754
Speaker 3: do this offseason. And maybe Scott Peters is great and

1583
01:09:44,794 --> 01:09:48,634
Speaker 3: that's though after the evaluation, they'll figure that out and

1584
01:09:48,674 --> 01:09:51,674
Speaker 3: he'll stay on and you know, we'll get those five

1585
01:09:51,794 --> 01:09:54,394
Speaker 3: good linemen and he'll coach him up and we'll be fine.

1586
01:09:54,394 --> 01:09:57,434
Speaker 3: But I don't know that, you know, only only they

1587
01:09:57,514 --> 01:10:01,154
Speaker 3: really know the Elliott Wolson everybody else inside the team.

1588
01:10:01,234 --> 01:10:03,154
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, and how much are you willing to

1589
01:10:03,794 --> 01:10:06,834
Speaker 6: look at the extenuating circumstances around each like I mean,

1590
01:10:06,874 --> 01:10:09,674
Speaker 6: it's his first year coaching, They're gonna have some mistakes,

1591
01:10:09,874 --> 01:10:10,754
Speaker 6: a lot of injuries.

1592
01:10:10,794 --> 01:10:11,674
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I.

1593
01:10:11,594 --> 01:10:14,794
Speaker 6: Think they know on the inside though, while this player

1594
01:10:14,834 --> 01:10:16,354
Speaker 6: we felt like have potential.

1595
01:10:15,954 --> 01:10:17,394
Speaker 9: And you brought it out of him or you didn't.

1596
01:10:17,434 --> 01:10:19,434
Speaker 6: You know, those are the things internally that they know

1597
01:10:19,514 --> 01:10:20,594
Speaker 6: that we don't really get to see.

1598
01:10:20,714 --> 01:10:21,234
Speaker 3: We don't know that.

1599
01:10:21,354 --> 01:10:23,914
Speaker 6: We just see the overall product, which last week felt

1600
01:10:23,954 --> 01:10:26,114
Speaker 6: like they were welcome, which like they had a well

1601
01:10:26,114 --> 01:10:29,434
Speaker 6: coach game, so they got to continue to do that stuff.

1602
01:10:29,434 --> 01:10:31,674
Speaker 6: But I agree, it'll be interesting evaluation. There's so many

1603
01:10:31,674 --> 01:10:34,234
Speaker 6: assistant coaches though, it's you know, maybe do they decide

1604
01:10:34,314 --> 01:10:36,874
Speaker 6: too many, let's pull back a little bit, or you know,

1605
01:10:36,954 --> 01:10:39,274
Speaker 6: like you said, they maybe they shuffle some guys out.

1606
01:10:39,834 --> 01:10:43,394
Speaker 3: Let's get to some emails at podcasts at Patriots dot com.

1607
01:10:43,434 --> 01:10:45,834
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Speaker 3: is email anything to podcasts at Patriots dot com will

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Speaker 3: automatically move you into the distribution list and you'll get

1611
01:10:57,154 --> 01:11:00,954
Speaker 3: the newsletter. Every time I make this announcement, we get

1612
01:11:00,994 --> 01:11:03,634
Speaker 3: another batch. So I know that we get new listeners

1613
01:11:03,874 --> 01:11:06,154
Speaker 3: every show, So that's why I'm saying it. Every show,

1614
01:11:06,914 --> 01:11:10,194
Speaker 3: just email podcasts at Patriots dot com and you'll get

1615
01:11:10,234 --> 01:11:13,674
Speaker 3: our new PU newsletter. It's just about this show and

1616
01:11:13,714 --> 01:11:16,434
Speaker 3: the people in this show and the callers and listeners.

1617
01:11:16,474 --> 01:11:19,434
Speaker 3: So we're trying to make it really fun. Alex is

1618
01:11:19,914 --> 01:11:24,274
Speaker 3: editing it, but we've got other people contributing. So podcast

1619
01:11:24,314 --> 01:11:26,914
Speaker 3: at Patriots dot com is how you get the newsletter.

1620
01:11:27,754 --> 01:11:31,954
Speaker 3: Chance is emailing from Syracuse. He says, I have two

1621
01:11:31,994 --> 01:11:35,154
Speaker 3: questions for you guys, the first being a hypothetical. If

1622
01:11:35,194 --> 01:11:39,674
Speaker 3: Stafford played for the Packers and Rogers played for Detroit,

1623
01:11:40,154 --> 01:11:42,874
Speaker 3: do you think Stafford would have won more less or

1624
01:11:42,914 --> 01:11:45,234
Speaker 3: the same amount of Super Bowls that Rogers did, which

1625
01:11:45,274 --> 01:11:45,594
Speaker 3: is one.

1626
01:11:47,954 --> 01:11:48,954
Speaker 4: I think you were on more.

1627
01:11:49,474 --> 01:11:51,194
Speaker 3: You think Stafford would have won more?

1628
01:11:51,234 --> 01:11:51,754
Speaker 4: You know what I think?

1629
01:11:52,154 --> 01:11:53,394
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you like Stafford.

1630
01:11:53,554 --> 01:11:56,114
Speaker 4: I should probably recuse myself from this conversation. I'm not

1631
01:11:56,634 --> 01:11:57,634
Speaker 4: I'm not unbiased.

1632
01:11:57,874 --> 01:12:00,114
Speaker 3: And would Rogers have done anything one of the same

1633
01:12:00,154 --> 01:12:04,314
Speaker 3: as Rogers playing for the Packers and so? And you

1634
01:12:04,354 --> 01:12:06,834
Speaker 3: don't think Rogers would have elevated Detroit at that time?

1635
01:12:07,114 --> 01:12:09,434
Speaker 4: I think, but I don't think he would have made

1636
01:12:09,434 --> 01:12:13,874
Speaker 4: them consistently great. Yeah, it would have been like Stafford.

1637
01:12:13,874 --> 01:12:16,594
Speaker 4: Stafford elevated the team, he just didn't do it consistently.

1638
01:12:17,554 --> 01:12:19,714
Speaker 4: This is interesting thede.

1639
01:12:19,234 --> 01:12:20,954
Speaker 9: Rogers with Calvin Johnson.

1640
01:12:20,954 --> 01:12:23,474
Speaker 3: That's that's kind of Second question.

1641
01:12:23,594 --> 01:12:25,354
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Rodgers probably would have been better. I mean,

1642
01:12:25,394 --> 01:12:27,954
Speaker 4: Rodgers is better than Stafford. I mean, as much as

1643
01:12:27,994 --> 01:12:29,674
Speaker 4: I hate one and love the other, Rodgers is a

1644
01:12:29,714 --> 01:12:30,234
Speaker 4: better player.

1645
01:12:30,714 --> 01:12:33,474
Speaker 3: Second questions for me. When Stafford asked the Lions to

1646
01:12:33,514 --> 01:12:37,354
Speaker 3: trade him, he apparently said anywhere but the Patriots. If

1647
01:12:37,354 --> 01:12:40,234
Speaker 3: that report is true, would you consider this a Patriots

1648
01:12:40,234 --> 01:12:40,954
Speaker 3: revenge game?

1649
01:12:42,754 --> 01:12:46,914
Speaker 4: So the reason for that was Matt Patricia, You know that, right, No.

1650
01:12:46,954 --> 01:12:47,554
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

1651
01:12:47,714 --> 01:12:52,154
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why he's out of Detroit. The whole Matt

1652
01:12:52,194 --> 01:12:55,034
Speaker 4: Patricia thing is all because, of course, of course, like

1653
01:12:55,114 --> 01:12:59,034
Speaker 4: that's the brunt of his sort of no pushback for

1654
01:12:59,034 --> 01:12:59,714
Speaker 4: the Patriots.

1655
01:12:59,834 --> 01:13:01,834
Speaker 3: No, why would we want revenge on that?

1656
01:13:02,194 --> 01:13:04,074
Speaker 4: No, I mean you can use it as revenge. I mean,

1657
01:13:04,074 --> 01:13:06,594
Speaker 4: you use anything for revenge. I mean, god knows, Brodney

1658
01:13:06,594 --> 01:13:08,434
Speaker 4: Harrison and William Ginnis made it up all the time.

1659
01:13:08,514 --> 01:13:09,914
Speaker 3: I mean, Matt Patricia is not here.

1660
01:13:10,274 --> 01:13:13,594
Speaker 6: But that was a I'm wait, that was twenty off

1661
01:13:13,674 --> 01:13:16,073
Speaker 6: season or twenty twenty one before twenty twenty.

1662
01:13:15,834 --> 01:13:19,234
Speaker 4: If it was after the twenty season, right, yeah.

1663
01:13:18,714 --> 01:13:20,354
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was right after Patricia left.

1664
01:13:20,394 --> 01:13:24,074
Speaker 4: And don't hold me to this. I might maybe I'm

1665
01:13:24,114 --> 01:13:26,234
Speaker 4: missing some of the details. I had always gotten the

1666
01:13:26,234 --> 01:13:31,954
Speaker 4: impression that the impetus for that thought process from Stafford

1667
01:13:31,994 --> 01:13:35,954
Speaker 4: toward the Patriots was because Patricia was always pounding the

1668
01:13:36,034 --> 01:13:39,434
Speaker 4: Lions with this is how you win. The Patriots do this,

1669
01:13:39,594 --> 01:13:41,794
Speaker 4: the Patriots do this, And it was all about well,

1670
01:13:42,074 --> 01:13:45,234
Speaker 4: he actually how much you guys suck and how much

1671
01:13:45,234 --> 01:13:48,794
Speaker 4: the Patriots invented football. And I think it rubbed a

1672
01:13:48,794 --> 01:13:50,554
Speaker 4: lot of people the wrong way and I think that's

1673
01:13:50,594 --> 01:13:55,674
Speaker 4: what it's about. Yeah, I might be completely missing that, Oh,

1674
01:13:55,714 --> 01:13:58,474
Speaker 4: but that's what I've always That's how it was explained

1675
01:13:58,514 --> 01:14:00,714
Speaker 4: to me. So that's how I always thought it went down.

1676
01:14:00,794 --> 01:14:01,074
Speaker 3: Yep.

1677
01:14:02,394 --> 01:14:04,554
Speaker 4: And yes, I think it was after the twenty season

1678
01:14:04,594 --> 01:14:06,914
Speaker 4: is when he demanded the trade, because that twenty game

1679
01:14:06,954 --> 01:14:09,114
Speaker 4: that the Patriots played the Rams, jery Goff was still

1680
01:14:09,114 --> 01:14:12,314
Speaker 4: with the Rams that twenty four to three Thursday night game.

1681
01:14:12,434 --> 01:14:16,434
Speaker 3: Yeahpi and Fresno appreciate Fred's comments that many of the

1682
01:14:16,474 --> 01:14:20,394
Speaker 3: show's listeners weren't PFW listeners. The poor soul's tuning in

1683
01:14:20,474 --> 01:14:24,154
Speaker 3: now will never know the depth of depravity in heights

1684
01:14:24,154 --> 01:14:26,994
Speaker 3: of greatness previously achieved. I think it would be fun

1685
01:14:27,034 --> 01:14:29,514
Speaker 3: for you to put together an infographic for the newsletter,

1686
01:14:29,954 --> 01:14:33,154
Speaker 3: visualizing the history of the show, the paper, and most

1687
01:14:33,274 --> 01:14:36,434
Speaker 3: especially the personnel over the years. You'll have to blur

1688
01:14:36,554 --> 01:14:38,754
Speaker 3: the face of he who shall not be named. Yes,

1689
01:14:38,914 --> 01:14:41,994
Speaker 3: that's make him look like so on. But but here's

1690
01:14:42,154 --> 01:14:44,514
Speaker 3: but here's the thing I'm gonna tell you too. While

1691
01:14:44,674 --> 01:14:48,914
Speaker 3: we're sitting here, I want you guys contributing. I don't

1692
01:14:48,954 --> 01:14:51,314
Speaker 3: want it to be all alex so like something like this.

1693
01:14:51,674 --> 01:14:53,954
Speaker 4: I pretty much provide all the content every week.

1694
01:14:54,034 --> 01:14:57,234
Speaker 3: Well okay, great, no, but something like this if you

1695
01:14:57,314 --> 01:15:00,114
Speaker 3: want it too, every joke if you yeah, I know.

1696
01:15:00,154 --> 01:15:02,874
Speaker 3: But but if you wanted to, like do a timeline, Paul,

1697
01:15:02,994 --> 01:15:04,994
Speaker 3: go ahead, do that for the newsletter.

1698
01:15:05,034 --> 01:15:07,114
Speaker 6: I think that'd be really fun of the personnel, like

1699
01:15:07,234 --> 01:15:08,754
Speaker 6: just a like a visual, right.

1700
01:15:08,634 --> 01:15:13,234
Speaker 3: Like when when was the first swear said on you know?

1701
01:15:13,634 --> 01:15:16,434
Speaker 4: Yes you do, like when I know that, Like I

1702
01:15:16,514 --> 01:15:17,354
Speaker 4: swore on the radio.

1703
01:15:17,434 --> 01:15:19,474
Speaker 3: I know that, Yes, that was the first time there

1704
01:15:19,474 --> 01:15:20,634
Speaker 3: was a swear in this show.

1705
01:15:20,954 --> 01:15:23,034
Speaker 4: I don't think so. Oh yeah, I don't think I

1706
01:15:23,114 --> 01:15:25,234
Speaker 4: was the first to swear. Well, the first F bomb

1707
01:15:25,354 --> 01:15:27,434
Speaker 4: for sure, probably the loudest.

1708
01:15:28,594 --> 01:15:31,834
Speaker 3: And then the time that Fred kicked Andy off the show.

1709
01:15:32,554 --> 01:15:35,074
Speaker 3: I wasn't there. I can help you.

1710
01:15:35,274 --> 01:15:37,234
Speaker 4: I was at the super Bowl. I could give you

1711
01:15:37,274 --> 01:15:38,594
Speaker 4: a timeline that was at the super.

1712
01:15:38,394 --> 01:15:40,994
Speaker 9: Bowl before the great moments first super Bowl.

1713
01:15:41,034 --> 01:15:41,514
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1714
01:15:41,594 --> 01:15:43,634
Speaker 6: But it's also like a good visual of like, you know,

1715
01:15:43,674 --> 01:15:47,034
Speaker 6: the first show, maybe just your heads like with headphones on,

1716
01:15:47,074 --> 01:15:49,834
Speaker 6: and this was PFW in progress and then you know,

1717
01:15:49,914 --> 01:15:52,914
Speaker 6: Andy's head pops in down the timeline and then ericson

1718
01:15:53,354 --> 01:15:55,194
Speaker 6: you know, slowly show how it was made.

1719
01:15:55,194 --> 01:15:55,994
Speaker 9: I think that's a good idea.

1720
01:15:56,914 --> 01:16:01,914
Speaker 3: How he went from like chromagnum men to you know, yeah,

1721
01:16:02,034 --> 01:16:03,234
Speaker 3: people walking on two feet.

1722
01:16:03,274 --> 01:16:04,954
Speaker 6: It'd be better if we could get old pictures of

1723
01:16:04,994 --> 01:16:07,114
Speaker 6: you guys too, like the pictures from ninety nine.

1724
01:16:07,154 --> 01:16:11,073
Speaker 4: I've looked like this, like like high school graduation.

1725
01:16:12,714 --> 01:16:16,674
Speaker 9: Wow, how did you deal with that? Just beating him

1726
01:16:16,674 --> 01:16:20,634
Speaker 9: off with a stick, Yes, Warren, did you get that?

1727
01:16:20,674 --> 01:16:21,154
Speaker 4: White man?

1728
01:16:22,194 --> 01:16:26,234
Speaker 3: Warren says that to pay raise for a car and news.

1729
01:16:28,594 --> 01:16:29,954
Speaker 6: Be cool if you came in there with like some

1730
01:16:30,034 --> 01:16:32,874
Speaker 6: diesel jeans some one day really tight, like you got.

1731
01:16:32,754 --> 01:16:36,234
Speaker 4: A lot of like a difference between I mean young people.

1732
01:16:37,194 --> 01:16:39,634
Speaker 4: I definitely see like like I said that in the clip,

1733
01:16:39,834 --> 01:16:42,554
Speaker 4: the euro jeans, like I don't like the tight jeans.

1734
01:16:43,194 --> 01:16:44,994
Speaker 9: You were like low ones to like ride low.

1735
01:16:45,354 --> 01:16:48,914
Speaker 4: But I wear normal jeans like some of the Levis

1736
01:16:49,034 --> 01:16:50,114
Speaker 4: some of the older men.

1737
01:16:50,394 --> 01:16:53,474
Speaker 3: Like when I say older, like over forty, who wear

1738
01:16:53,514 --> 01:16:56,874
Speaker 3: the real tight jeans look absolutely ridiculous and you.

1739
01:16:56,874 --> 01:16:59,154
Speaker 4: And evidently that's what you're clamoring for me, so you.

1740
01:16:59,074 --> 01:17:02,674
Speaker 3: Can make I'm not tight tight jeans, but just modern jeans.

1741
01:17:02,874 --> 01:17:06,114
Speaker 4: Modern yeah, like Levi's what's the matter with.

1742
01:17:06,114 --> 01:17:09,194
Speaker 9: Levi's Yeah, I don't know these are my old man.

1743
01:17:09,314 --> 01:17:13,154
Speaker 3: Levi's are fine. The ivis not the kind of real

1744
01:17:13,274 --> 01:17:14,034
Speaker 3: baggy ones.

1745
01:17:14,194 --> 01:17:20,154
Speaker 4: Well, they're well to my own woman right now, right, you.

1746
01:17:20,114 --> 01:17:21,234
Speaker 3: Need to get new clothes.

1747
01:17:21,874 --> 01:17:25,394
Speaker 9: There you go, let's work a makeover in Yeah, you know,

1748
01:17:25,474 --> 01:17:26,474
Speaker 9: we'll put Paul on.

1749
01:17:26,434 --> 01:17:28,554
Speaker 4: That qu That'll be the next thing in the newsletter.

1750
01:17:28,594 --> 01:17:30,994
Speaker 4: The whole newsletter is just let's dump on Paul.

1751
01:17:31,354 --> 01:17:34,754
Speaker 3: Oh oh. So the last newsletter headline was me going

1752
01:17:34,794 --> 01:17:36,754
Speaker 3: to the bathroom. But he's been playing because it's all

1753
01:17:36,794 --> 01:17:37,474
Speaker 3: about it.

1754
01:17:37,554 --> 01:17:43,194
Speaker 4: That is true. There's two all the contents had an

1755
01:17:43,234 --> 01:17:45,314
Speaker 4: accident or not to step up your game?

1756
01:17:45,554 --> 01:17:45,794
Speaker 9: Right?

1757
01:17:48,114 --> 01:17:50,434
Speaker 3: Pull on your way? Yeah?

1758
01:17:50,514 --> 01:17:51,194
Speaker 9: Can I get a ruling?

1759
01:17:51,234 --> 01:17:51,274
Speaker 3: Know?

1760
01:17:51,354 --> 01:17:53,034
Speaker 9: I got LL Bean jeans on right now?

1761
01:17:53,074 --> 01:17:53,314
Speaker 7: Is that?

1762
01:17:53,354 --> 01:17:55,154
Speaker 3: Is that all depends on which one? See? I have

1763
01:17:55,314 --> 01:17:58,274
Speaker 3: LL being gans on too, but they're the signature ones,

1764
01:17:59,034 --> 01:18:01,714
Speaker 3: so they're not the they're not the classy baggy one.

1765
01:18:01,834 --> 01:18:02,034
Speaker 9: Right.

1766
01:18:02,434 --> 01:18:04,274
Speaker 4: I can't even afford a car, and I'm supposed to

1767
01:18:04,274 --> 01:18:08,674
Speaker 4: get like LL Bean jeans. Not that for my signature one.

1768
01:18:08,714 --> 01:18:10,034
Speaker 3: They're under one hundred dollars.

1769
01:18:12,114 --> 01:18:14,514
Speaker 4: You think I'm spending one hundred dollars on my jeans?

1770
01:18:14,954 --> 01:18:17,154
Speaker 3: Listen, that's what closed costs.

1771
01:18:17,234 --> 01:18:21,674
Speaker 4: These days. Not jeans, not not to they're not they

1772
01:18:21,674 --> 01:18:23,634
Speaker 4: don't go to kmart. But you don't have to spend

1773
01:18:23,674 --> 01:18:27,474
Speaker 4: one hundred bucks to get appear or regular jeans.

1774
01:18:26,754 --> 01:18:29,073
Speaker 3: Something that like you get what you pay, something.

1775
01:18:28,914 --> 01:18:30,834
Speaker 4: My son would wear. Yeah, those are gonna cost you

1776
01:18:30,834 --> 01:18:32,994
Speaker 4: a hundred bucks more of like a designer kind of thing.

1777
01:18:33,194 --> 01:18:36,314
Speaker 3: I'm not wearing the designer jeans cost two hundred bills.

1778
01:18:36,354 --> 01:18:37,474
Speaker 4: I'm not wearing Joe Ache.

1779
01:18:38,554 --> 01:18:42,834
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that, Paul Marshalls. Something that compliments you

1780
01:18:42,914 --> 01:18:46,954
Speaker 3: a little bit, better listen. Something something that doesn't say,

1781
01:18:46,994 --> 01:18:49,354
Speaker 3: I'm going to the grocery store. Do you need anything that.

1782
01:18:49,354 --> 01:18:56,314
Speaker 4: Would be sweats, Something that doesn't say I've completely given up.

1783
01:18:58,754 --> 01:19:02,514
Speaker 3: This is the Show's the show, I mean screws dungarees.

1784
01:19:04,114 --> 01:19:07,034
Speaker 4: I hope you recorded all of that. I expect to

1785
01:19:07,034 --> 01:19:07,594
Speaker 4: see we can.

1786
01:19:07,554 --> 01:19:09,394
Speaker 5: Do like a little a little.

1787
01:19:09,154 --> 01:19:11,154
Speaker 6: Paul cut out where we can like you know, fashion

1788
01:19:11,194 --> 01:19:12,914
Speaker 6: you and you know, cut out a pair of jeans

1789
01:19:12,914 --> 01:19:13,394
Speaker 6: and put.

1790
01:19:13,194 --> 01:19:15,794
Speaker 9: Them on like toy for the kids. The kid listeners.

1791
01:19:15,794 --> 01:19:18,514
Speaker 9: They want to dress up Paul Perlo. No, he's not

1792
01:19:18,514 --> 01:19:19,314
Speaker 9: plus by that one.

1793
01:19:19,594 --> 01:19:22,154
Speaker 3: Like remember when I was little, they had this thing

1794
01:19:22,194 --> 01:19:28,074
Speaker 3: called color forms. Yeah, those Yeah, bacon, bake them the

1795
01:19:28,114 --> 01:19:28,914
Speaker 3: things I used to bake.

1796
01:19:29,074 --> 01:19:32,274
Speaker 4: No, No, this was like a that's what you did

1797
01:19:32,354 --> 01:19:33,914
Speaker 4: in Cali with all your movies.

1798
01:19:33,994 --> 01:19:35,874
Speaker 3: This is like a two dimensional It was like a

1799
01:19:35,954 --> 01:19:39,274
Speaker 3: board that you had these sticky vinyl things. And there's

1800
01:19:39,314 --> 01:19:40,354
Speaker 3: still a thing for my kids.

1801
01:19:40,394 --> 01:19:40,674
Speaker 7: Have them.

1802
01:19:40,994 --> 01:19:41,914
Speaker 4: Color color forms.

1803
01:19:42,674 --> 01:19:45,794
Speaker 1: It's like a raincoat or a farmer. Yeah, just dress

1804
01:19:45,834 --> 01:19:47,474
Speaker 1: them up with all the vinyl stickers on this one

1805
01:19:47,714 --> 01:19:48,754
Speaker 1: half naked human being.

1806
01:19:48,834 --> 01:19:52,434
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I remember what you're talking about. Colors, Yeah,

1807
01:19:53,394 --> 01:19:56,034
Speaker 4: color forms. Fun? What am I'm pretty sure that was

1808
01:19:56,074 --> 01:19:56,594
Speaker 4: a commercial.

1809
01:19:57,434 --> 01:20:01,394
Speaker 3: Matt Cologne writes in Uh, my wife Elena and I

1810
01:20:01,434 --> 01:20:03,474
Speaker 3: are just about to make dinner as we're listening to

1811
01:20:03,514 --> 01:20:06,554
Speaker 3: the show on YouTube. Mike just came in and we

1812
01:20:06,634 --> 01:20:10,434
Speaker 3: literally started dancing to the song. Thank you very much

1813
01:20:10,474 --> 01:20:12,554
Speaker 3: for your show and all the input regarding the Patriots.

1814
01:20:12,554 --> 01:20:14,754
Speaker 3: Do you guys already know when the Patriots will return

1815
01:20:14,834 --> 01:20:17,394
Speaker 3: to Germany and where they will play next time? At

1816
01:20:17,394 --> 01:20:20,234
Speaker 3: the moment, there are rumors about a game in Berlin.

1817
01:20:21,994 --> 01:20:23,634
Speaker 3: I don't know if the Patriots are going to play

1818
01:20:23,634 --> 01:20:25,514
Speaker 3: there next year, but I do know that Roger Dell

1819
01:20:25,674 --> 01:20:28,394
Speaker 3: is working hard to get a game in Berlin.

1820
01:20:29,794 --> 01:20:36,274
Speaker 4: So yeah, those eight international games, like you said yesterday,

1821
01:20:36,594 --> 01:20:37,274
Speaker 4: that's like.

1822
01:20:37,234 --> 01:20:39,274
Speaker 3: Half the that's half the league playing a game.

1823
01:20:39,354 --> 01:20:39,954
Speaker 4: Somewhere, you know.

1824
01:20:40,034 --> 01:20:43,074
Speaker 6: I mean, I just I want to know how Mad

1825
01:20:43,354 --> 01:20:45,714
Speaker 6: what exactly that dance was like, because I mean, it's

1826
01:20:45,754 --> 01:20:48,034
Speaker 6: it's a wonderful song, but it's kind of at least

1827
01:20:48,154 --> 01:20:49,234
Speaker 6: very rhythmic.

1828
01:20:50,394 --> 01:20:53,714
Speaker 4: For you, yea, the song, because the song is outstands.

1829
01:20:53,754 --> 01:20:54,994
Speaker 9: It's wonderful, but it's.

1830
01:20:54,834 --> 01:20:56,074
Speaker 4: Like, you know, it's a song we've had.

1831
01:20:56,074 --> 01:20:57,794
Speaker 9: You're not doing like the run, You're kind.

1832
01:20:57,634 --> 01:21:04,354
Speaker 3: Of from the locker room. What was the mood?

1833
01:21:06,914 --> 01:21:10,674
Speaker 9: What was it like testing the food together to the song?

1834
01:21:11,834 --> 01:21:12,874
Speaker 4: Like, what was it?

1835
01:21:12,994 --> 01:21:13,234
Speaker 12: Like?

1836
01:21:14,114 --> 01:21:18,354
Speaker 3: Wonderful out and it fades out, fades into Mike.

1837
01:21:18,314 --> 01:21:19,674
Speaker 9: And then I just wink at the camera.

1838
01:21:23,514 --> 01:21:26,554
Speaker 3: One wants to talk football, Come on, so we'll go

1839
01:21:26,634 --> 01:21:29,514
Speaker 3: back to football, okay. He says he went to the

1840
01:21:29,514 --> 01:21:32,354
Speaker 3: Patriots Bears games last weekend and noticed that at the

1841
01:21:32,354 --> 01:21:34,874
Speaker 3: top of the break, the Bears receivers were blanketed by

1842
01:21:34,874 --> 01:21:38,234
Speaker 3: the Patriots defense. I noticed this a couple of times

1843
01:21:38,514 --> 01:21:42,394
Speaker 3: before the beer took effect, not the Bear, the beer.

1844
01:21:42,954 --> 01:21:45,194
Speaker 3: After the game, I saw a video of someone calling

1845
01:21:45,194 --> 01:21:48,434
Speaker 3: out the Bears play calling slash designs. He made a

1846
01:21:48,434 --> 01:21:51,154
Speaker 3: point that most, if not all, the sacks came in

1847
01:21:51,234 --> 01:21:54,514
Speaker 3: plays where the Bears receivers had super slow developing plays.

1848
01:21:54,914 --> 01:21:57,394
Speaker 3: He showed some videos showing that most if not all,

1849
01:21:57,794 --> 01:22:01,194
Speaker 3: the receiver routes would be outbreaking routes toward the sideline

1850
01:22:01,554 --> 01:22:05,834
Speaker 3: and none or almost in the middle for quick throw options.

1851
01:22:05,874 --> 01:22:09,674
Speaker 3: In fact, he paused one video showing a Patriot defender

1852
01:22:09,714 --> 01:22:12,674
Speaker 3: coming free and all you can see is vertical routes

1853
01:22:12,754 --> 01:22:15,314
Speaker 3: down the field with none of the receivers having their

1854
01:22:15,354 --> 01:22:18,354
Speaker 3: head turned toward the quarterback. Not to downplay how well

1855
01:22:18,394 --> 01:22:21,914
Speaker 3: the Patriot's defense played, but how much did the Bears help,

1856
01:22:23,554 --> 01:22:26,114
Speaker 3: not just with the bat oline play, but also bad

1857
01:22:26,154 --> 01:22:27,554
Speaker 3: calling or bad route running.

1858
01:22:29,074 --> 01:22:32,394
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I the Bears offense did not look

1859
01:22:32,474 --> 01:22:35,794
Speaker 6: in sync at all to me, and that's you know,

1860
01:22:35,834 --> 01:22:36,794
Speaker 6: I just I don't want to not.

1861
01:22:36,714 --> 01:22:39,354
Speaker 9: Give credit to the Patriots, but they just even.

1862
01:22:39,114 --> 01:22:40,634
Speaker 6: Some of the plays that I thought were there, Caleb

1863
01:22:40,674 --> 01:22:42,634
Speaker 6: Williams just wasn't seeing it fast enough.

1864
01:22:42,674 --> 01:22:43,794
Speaker 9: And I mean, we've seen that kind of thing.

1865
01:22:43,834 --> 01:22:45,394
Speaker 4: That would be my argument how much of it was

1866
01:22:45,434 --> 01:22:48,394
Speaker 4: on KAYLEB Williams, because you're not necessarily supposed to be

1867
01:22:48,394 --> 01:22:50,874
Speaker 4: looking when the ball's thrown. Yeah, right, Like so if

1868
01:22:50,914 --> 01:22:54,434
Speaker 4: you're looking at videos and no one's looking when the

1869
01:22:54,434 --> 01:22:58,074
Speaker 4: pressure is coming, like there needs to be. I think

1870
01:22:58,074 --> 01:23:00,234
Speaker 4: it's all of the above. Basically what the emailer is

1871
01:23:00,234 --> 01:23:02,354
Speaker 4: describing is I think all of those things were part

1872
01:23:02,394 --> 01:23:05,754
Speaker 4: of it. I think it's a poor design. I didn't

1873
01:23:05,794 --> 01:23:08,674
Speaker 4: see a lot of downfield stuff, and Evan had yesterday

1874
01:23:08,714 --> 01:23:11,874
Speaker 4: the numbers. It was only one throw that traveled more

1875
01:23:11,914 --> 01:23:13,674
Speaker 4: than ten did you say ten yard or twenty? I

1876
01:23:13,714 --> 01:23:16,794
Speaker 4: think it was so like that's just poor design. And

1877
01:23:16,914 --> 01:23:19,354
Speaker 4: I think Caleb Williams did a poor job of reading

1878
01:23:19,354 --> 01:23:22,314
Speaker 4: the field and handling the pressure and moving around. And

1879
01:23:23,914 --> 01:23:26,634
Speaker 4: I think the Patriots also did a great job at

1880
01:23:26,634 --> 01:23:29,034
Speaker 4: combating all of those things, whether it be in the

1881
01:23:29,034 --> 01:23:31,474
Speaker 4: front end getting some pressure on him or the back

1882
01:23:31,554 --> 01:23:34,914
Speaker 4: end and having tight coverage. I think it was sort

1883
01:23:34,914 --> 01:23:36,874
Speaker 4: of a mix of a lot of bad stuff.

1884
01:23:37,234 --> 01:23:40,434
Speaker 3: Bubba writes in still kind of sticking on the Bears game.

1885
01:23:40,754 --> 01:23:43,194
Speaker 3: I don't want to rain on your parade, but winning

1886
01:23:43,194 --> 01:23:46,074
Speaker 3: against the Bears doesn't mean much much like the sincey win.

1887
01:23:47,674 --> 01:23:51,154
Speaker 3: Instead of the sincey win, we only scored nineteen points

1888
01:23:51,234 --> 01:23:54,034
Speaker 3: versus a bad team in total disarray. The offense was

1889
01:23:54,074 --> 01:23:57,194
Speaker 3: not solid, pass protection was soft. There is still a

1890
01:23:57,234 --> 01:24:00,034
Speaker 3: lot of work to get consistently scoring twenty plus points

1891
01:24:00,034 --> 01:24:03,394
Speaker 3: per game. The defense played well, but Chicago's O line

1892
01:24:03,474 --> 01:24:06,154
Speaker 3: was so weak that it's not NFL caliber. I like

1893
01:24:06,234 --> 01:24:08,834
Speaker 3: the coverage it caused a number of the sacks. I

1894
01:24:08,954 --> 01:24:11,994
Speaker 3: like the fewer mistakes and better coaching. Time will tell,

1895
01:24:12,034 --> 01:24:14,474
Speaker 3: but I don't think they can win more than two

1896
01:24:14,474 --> 01:24:16,994
Speaker 3: of the remaining games that the passing game does not

1897
01:24:17,074 --> 01:24:18,114
Speaker 3: improve dramatically.

1898
01:24:19,514 --> 01:24:20,794
Speaker 9: I kind of agree with Bubba.

1899
01:24:21,554 --> 01:24:23,874
Speaker 3: They just have to get better. We're saying they don't.

1900
01:24:24,074 --> 01:24:26,194
Speaker 9: Ye no, but a win win at this point, I

1901
01:24:26,194 --> 01:24:27,994
Speaker 9: think that's what everyone will will take.

1902
01:24:28,154 --> 01:24:30,074
Speaker 4: And I think that the fact that they were able

1903
01:24:30,114 --> 01:24:34,314
Speaker 4: to do what they did. The difference in this game

1904
01:24:34,354 --> 01:24:36,154
Speaker 4: in the Cincinnati game, to me was they won this

1905
01:24:36,194 --> 01:24:39,114
Speaker 4: game easily going away. They took advantage of the other

1906
01:24:39,154 --> 01:24:42,674
Speaker 4: team not playing well and won easily. Now, I would

1907
01:24:42,674 --> 01:24:45,514
Speaker 4: have loved to have seen more conversions in the red

1908
01:24:45,594 --> 01:24:47,834
Speaker 4: zone and all that, and I would have liked to

1909
01:24:47,834 --> 01:24:49,794
Speaker 4: have seen Drake may look a little bit more comfortable

1910
01:24:49,834 --> 01:24:52,914
Speaker 4: than he did. But to win a game easily when

1911
01:24:52,914 --> 01:24:55,154
Speaker 4: the other team is playing you know poorly, that's what

1912
01:24:55,154 --> 01:24:55,874
Speaker 4: you're supposed to do.

1913
01:24:56,354 --> 01:24:56,994
Speaker 9: I think too.

1914
01:24:57,034 --> 01:24:59,274
Speaker 6: You just see the effect that losing week after week

1915
01:24:59,314 --> 01:25:02,074
Speaker 6: has on a team, and you know, no matter how

1916
01:25:02,114 --> 01:25:05,594
Speaker 6: you get a win, it just has such a beneficial

1917
01:25:05,634 --> 01:25:08,034
Speaker 6: effect to the team and just gives them a reprieve

1918
01:25:08,074 --> 01:25:11,074
Speaker 6: from all the same questions and everything. And this is

1919
01:25:11,114 --> 01:25:12,754
Speaker 6: what I felt today in the in the locker room

1920
01:25:12,754 --> 01:25:14,874
Speaker 6: and in the interviews. That was just everybody had a

1921
01:25:14,874 --> 01:25:17,434
Speaker 6: little bit renewed energy this week and that's you know,

1922
01:25:17,554 --> 01:25:20,154
Speaker 6: hopefully that can help them continue it. But I agree

1923
01:25:20,154 --> 01:25:21,674
Speaker 6: with the sentiment. Well, but they got they got a

1924
01:25:21,674 --> 01:25:22,994
Speaker 6: lot to a lot of work still to do.

1925
01:25:24,234 --> 01:25:28,074
Speaker 3: Tom in England said quick over under how many full

1926
01:25:28,114 --> 01:25:30,754
Speaker 3: games will Cole Strange play for the New England Patriots

1927
01:25:30,754 --> 01:25:33,914
Speaker 3: from now until he becomes a free agent. The over under,

1928
01:25:34,034 --> 01:25:35,113
Speaker 3: he says, is thirteen.

1929
01:25:35,394 --> 01:25:36,434
Speaker 4: What year is this for him?

1930
01:25:36,874 --> 01:25:39,354
Speaker 9: This is the third year, so his fourth year.

1931
01:25:39,394 --> 01:25:41,234
Speaker 6: Next year, they'd have to pick up his option this

1932
01:25:41,314 --> 01:25:43,834
Speaker 6: coming season if they were this coming off season.

1933
01:25:43,874 --> 01:25:45,794
Speaker 4: If they were to do it, that's for the fifth year.

1934
01:25:46,914 --> 01:25:48,594
Speaker 4: So next year I would say seventeen.

1935
01:25:49,234 --> 01:25:51,674
Speaker 3: He's going to play all games? Yeah, okay, so over

1936
01:25:52,314 --> 01:25:53,034
Speaker 3: over thirteen?

1937
01:25:53,314 --> 01:25:54,394
Speaker 4: Oh over yes.

1938
01:25:55,274 --> 01:25:58,674
Speaker 3: Also shout out to Paul for his ability and passion

1939
01:25:58,794 --> 01:26:02,034
Speaker 3: to argue any argument at any time, no matter whether

1940
01:26:02,074 --> 01:26:03,874
Speaker 3: he agrees or not. It's an art form.

1941
01:26:03,994 --> 01:26:05,994
Speaker 4: It's a gift and a curse.

1942
01:26:06,194 --> 01:26:08,834
Speaker 6: It is a curse because sometimes I imagine the inside

1943
01:26:08,834 --> 01:26:09,794
Speaker 6: of Paul's mind.

1944
01:26:09,674 --> 01:26:11,394
Speaker 9: Arguing both sides of it himself.

1945
01:26:11,994 --> 01:26:13,914
Speaker 4: Would you say that I argue one side here a

1946
01:26:13,914 --> 01:26:16,034
Speaker 4: lot and then good complete?

1947
01:26:16,194 --> 01:26:18,674
Speaker 3: Would you credit Rich Parillo for that gift?

1948
01:26:18,754 --> 01:26:18,874
Speaker 4: Oh?

1949
01:26:18,954 --> 01:26:21,034
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, your brother just torturing you.

1950
01:26:21,034 --> 01:26:24,914
Speaker 4: You think I'm a pro. There's a guy who missed

1951
01:26:24,914 --> 01:26:25,154
Speaker 4: his call.

1952
01:26:27,474 --> 01:26:30,234
Speaker 3: No, I mean, you know, for every great argument, there's

1953
01:26:30,274 --> 01:26:31,394
Speaker 3: an argument behind them.

1954
01:26:31,474 --> 01:26:33,634
Speaker 6: Oh sure, well, and I mean I I've just noticed

1955
01:26:33,634 --> 01:26:35,994
Speaker 6: that little brothers are so affected by big brothers, Like

1956
01:26:36,034 --> 01:26:37,514
Speaker 6: you know, little brothers and big brothers.

1957
01:26:37,514 --> 01:26:39,434
Speaker 9: That's a I know. I didn't have brothers growing up.

1958
01:26:40,554 --> 01:26:42,474
Speaker 4: And all I ever wanted to do was argue with them.

1959
01:26:43,034 --> 01:26:45,754
Speaker 3: How many times did an argument with Rich turn into

1960
01:26:45,794 --> 01:26:47,354
Speaker 3: a fight? Physical fight?

1961
01:26:48,274 --> 01:26:53,154
Speaker 4: Physical? No? No, okay, no, I mean we fought physically.

1962
01:26:53,234 --> 01:26:56,554
Speaker 4: We did, but not necessarily because of arguing. Okay, it

1963
01:26:56,634 --> 01:26:58,634
Speaker 4: was more because of something usually that I did.

1964
01:26:59,874 --> 01:27:01,514
Speaker 6: The funny thing I noticed about brothers, though, is that,

1965
01:27:01,554 --> 01:27:03,874
Speaker 6: like they'll start kind of doing stuff with each other,

1966
01:27:03,914 --> 01:27:06,594
Speaker 6: and then one will escalate with some kind of physical thing,

1967
01:27:06,714 --> 01:27:08,914
Speaker 6: and then the other one gets raging, pissed, and like

1968
01:27:09,154 --> 01:27:11,474
Speaker 6: you can just watch it go from like hah, kind

1969
01:27:11,514 --> 01:27:13,114
Speaker 6: of joking around to all of a sudden they're like

1970
01:27:13,194 --> 01:27:14,754
Speaker 6: at their each other's throats and have.

1971
01:27:14,714 --> 01:27:17,794
Speaker 3: To be separated, right and all the past grievances.

1972
01:27:17,874 --> 01:27:20,314
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I punched them once in the shoulder, like

1973
01:27:20,474 --> 01:27:22,874
Speaker 4: up here, like I and like as hard as I could,

1974
01:27:22,914 --> 01:27:25,794
Speaker 4: like and I hit like the top of his shoulder

1975
01:27:25,834 --> 01:27:28,154
Speaker 4: and it kind of like slipped off, and I hit

1976
01:27:28,194 --> 01:27:31,114
Speaker 4: him in the jaw. And that's about time. That's about

1977
01:27:31,114 --> 01:27:32,754
Speaker 4: as afraid as I've ever been in my life. And

1978
01:27:32,754 --> 01:27:35,314
Speaker 4: I'm not exaggerating. I ran as fast as I could

1979
01:27:35,354 --> 01:27:39,914
Speaker 4: my friend Joey Joey Massa save me. He got he

1980
01:27:39,954 --> 01:27:41,514
Speaker 4: got in between, gave me a little bit of a

1981
01:27:41,514 --> 01:27:44,514
Speaker 4: head start. I made it down the stairs, down the driveway,

1982
01:27:45,274 --> 01:27:48,434
Speaker 4: around the corner, and he's eventually he just stopped chasing.

1983
01:27:50,154 --> 01:27:52,074
Speaker 4: I thought he was going to kill me because I

1984
01:27:52,354 --> 01:27:54,074
Speaker 4: totally didn't do it on purpose. I just meant to

1985
01:27:54,114 --> 01:27:56,514
Speaker 4: hit him in the arm. She ended up hitting him

1986
01:27:57,154 --> 01:27:59,874
Speaker 4: like as hard as I could. And I was probably

1987
01:27:59,914 --> 01:28:02,434
Speaker 4: like fifteen or sixteen, so it wasn't like I was

1988
01:28:02,474 --> 01:28:05,794
Speaker 4: a little kid, like I had something behind it, not

1989
01:28:05,834 --> 01:28:07,234
Speaker 4: like I was Mike Tyson or anything.

1990
01:28:07,514 --> 01:28:08,314
Speaker 3: And left hand.

1991
01:28:08,474 --> 01:28:09,114
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah.

1992
01:28:10,114 --> 01:28:10,754
Speaker 9: How much older is he?

1993
01:28:10,754 --> 01:28:11,074
Speaker 17: You think?

1994
01:28:11,154 --> 01:28:11,554
Speaker 4: Four years?

1995
01:28:11,594 --> 01:28:11,994
Speaker 3: Four years?

1996
01:28:12,194 --> 01:28:13,194
Speaker 9: It's the same as my boy.

1997
01:28:14,554 --> 01:28:18,074
Speaker 3: Joe Wright Sin says he's disappointed in Paul. Yesterday, he

1998
01:28:18,114 --> 01:28:21,034
Speaker 3: said Drake has the skill to play in Buffalo, mentioning

1999
01:28:21,034 --> 01:28:23,154
Speaker 3: that he can throw the ball into the wind. Where

2000
01:28:23,234 --> 01:28:26,354
Speaker 3: was the snarky when he knows it's there or not?

2001
01:28:26,434 --> 01:28:27,714
Speaker 3: Just when the coaches make him.

2002
01:28:29,354 --> 01:28:30,714
Speaker 9: That's pretty good, that's pretty good.

2003
01:28:30,914 --> 01:28:33,634
Speaker 4: Also, just you know, I don't put any of the

2004
01:28:33,674 --> 01:28:36,554
Speaker 4: thing in Tennessee on Drake, man, right, I don't need

2005
01:28:36,594 --> 01:28:39,074
Speaker 4: there's no snark involved. There's snarking with the wind in

2006
01:28:39,114 --> 01:28:40,314
Speaker 4: Tennessee is on the coach.

2007
01:28:40,754 --> 01:28:43,994
Speaker 3: Also, man, does friend make being rich sound hard? Or what?

2008
01:28:45,154 --> 01:28:49,194
Speaker 3: Getting up from your table, paying your tab, carry your drink?

2009
01:28:49,274 --> 01:28:52,034
Speaker 3: Don't carry your drink? And this is before you've even

2010
01:28:52,074 --> 01:28:54,194
Speaker 3: tried to order your steak and all the rules that

2011
01:28:54,234 --> 01:29:00,354
Speaker 3: come with that. True, God, oh man.

2012
01:29:00,514 --> 01:29:00,994
Speaker 5: You shouldn't.

2013
01:29:01,154 --> 01:29:04,914
Speaker 4: You shouldn't have to carry your own drink. That's not.

2014
01:29:05,234 --> 01:29:08,794
Speaker 3: It's not that I just said I carry my own drink,

2015
01:29:09,114 --> 01:29:13,034
Speaker 3: but I from what I understand, it's not good etiquette

2016
01:29:13,034 --> 01:29:13,354
Speaker 3: to do it.

2017
01:29:13,394 --> 01:29:16,834
Speaker 4: No, Like if I was out at like the Capitol Grille, Yeah,

2018
01:29:16,874 --> 01:29:18,154
Speaker 4: I probably wouldn't do that.

2019
01:29:18,234 --> 01:29:18,674
Speaker 3: I would.

2020
01:29:19,114 --> 01:29:20,314
Speaker 4: I wouldn't carry my drink.

2021
01:29:20,394 --> 01:29:20,794
Speaker 3: I would.

2022
01:29:20,954 --> 01:29:22,474
Speaker 4: You would, well, but you're not supposed to.

2023
01:29:22,954 --> 01:29:24,794
Speaker 3: They say that you're not supposed to, but I would.

2024
01:29:25,034 --> 01:29:28,354
Speaker 3: And somebody emailed a good thing. He says in today's

2025
01:29:28,434 --> 01:29:31,274
Speaker 3: day and age, if I've started a drink, there's no

2026
01:29:31,314 --> 01:29:34,194
Speaker 3: way I'm trusting that drink with somebody else, Like it's

2027
01:29:34,234 --> 01:29:35,154
Speaker 3: not out of my sight.

2028
01:29:35,274 --> 01:29:36,554
Speaker 4: Oh, I wouldn't do, Roofie.

2029
01:29:37,754 --> 01:29:39,434
Speaker 3: I'm not letting that drink out of my sight.

2030
01:29:39,554 --> 01:29:41,834
Speaker 4: So, but that's hypocritical. You let it out of your

2031
01:29:41,874 --> 01:29:46,234
Speaker 4: sight when he brought it to you. Yeah, yeah, so

2032
01:29:46,354 --> 01:29:49,714
Speaker 4: why I mean, I get for women, that's a different thing,

2033
01:29:49,754 --> 01:29:52,554
Speaker 4: and it's it's a very serious issue. But it's not

2034
01:29:52,754 --> 01:29:54,714
Speaker 4: like the guy next to you at the bar is

2035
01:29:54,754 --> 01:29:57,594
Speaker 4: carrying your drink over the server is carrying your drink

2036
01:29:57,634 --> 01:29:59,754
Speaker 4: over the same server in a lot of cases that

2037
01:29:59,834 --> 01:30:01,994
Speaker 4: gave it to you in the first place. So I

2038
01:30:01,994 --> 01:30:03,914
Speaker 4: don't really understand what the feorists.

2039
01:30:04,554 --> 01:30:06,954
Speaker 3: Bert and Burton Island writes, and he says he's been

2040
01:30:06,994 --> 01:30:10,354
Speaker 3: wondering is it possible that Todd from North Carolina is

2041
01:30:10,394 --> 01:30:13,874
Speaker 3: secretly trolling everybody? Because every time he calls in, he

2042
01:30:13,914 --> 01:30:17,074
Speaker 3: always manages to work in the word O fence. There

2043
01:30:17,114 --> 01:30:20,113
Speaker 3: are definitely some dim witted listeners to the show, especially

2044
01:30:20,114 --> 01:30:22,794
Speaker 3: those who don't recognize the greatness of the picks segment.

2045
01:30:23,114 --> 01:30:24,794
Speaker 3: To me, it is the best part of the show

2046
01:30:24,834 --> 01:30:28,274
Speaker 3: each week. I especially love the coajin analysis of each

2047
01:30:28,354 --> 01:30:29,194
Speaker 3: game by Alex.

2048
01:30:34,714 --> 01:30:38,474
Speaker 4: I will say that some people, some people might not

2049
01:30:38,674 --> 01:30:44,634
Speaker 4: know Todd in North Carolina is originally from Canada. Nova Scotia.

2050
01:30:44,674 --> 01:30:46,914
Speaker 4: I believe, right, Todd Nova Scotia think so. Yeah, that's

2051
01:30:46,914 --> 01:30:49,834
Speaker 4: how he his original last name was Nova Scotia. In

2052
01:30:49,914 --> 01:30:54,474
Speaker 4: Nova Scotia, I think so he has the Canadian he

2053
01:30:54,554 --> 01:30:55,634
Speaker 4: does accent.

2054
01:30:56,154 --> 01:30:58,474
Speaker 3: But do you think he emphasizes I don't think.

2055
01:30:58,394 --> 01:31:00,754
Speaker 4: He's trolling us, now you don't. Maybe I don't put

2056
01:31:00,754 --> 01:31:03,194
Speaker 4: anything past anybody. Yeah, you know, it's kind of like,

2057
01:31:03,274 --> 01:31:04,994
Speaker 4: you know what Fred says, it's a winnable game. I

2058
01:31:05,034 --> 01:31:07,834
Speaker 4: absolutely agree. Any given someday, it's a winnable game.

2059
01:31:07,834 --> 01:31:11,034
Speaker 3: All right, let's get back to the TPX hotline. We've

2060
01:31:11,154 --> 01:31:14,154
Speaker 3: heard from some emailers. Let's get to the callers. Mike's

2061
01:31:14,154 --> 01:31:15,594
Speaker 3: in Puerto Rico. What's up, Mike?

2062
01:31:17,474 --> 01:31:20,994
Speaker 17: Hey, everybody having an awesome Patriot How about yourself?

2063
01:31:21,394 --> 01:31:22,154
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2064
01:31:22,194 --> 01:31:25,674
Speaker 3: Always better after a win, I know.

2065
01:31:25,914 --> 01:31:29,514
Speaker 17: And I actually got to travel down for both the

2066
01:31:29,554 --> 01:31:34,474
Speaker 17: Titans and the Chicago game. I met Melvin and Dre

2067
01:31:34,794 --> 01:31:38,794
Speaker 17: I guess just before you went out with them in

2068
01:31:38,874 --> 01:31:45,194
Speaker 17: Nashville and got to see the comeback against the Titans,

2069
01:31:45,194 --> 01:31:48,114
Speaker 17: which was really cool. And then because we were driving

2070
01:31:48,154 --> 01:31:51,674
Speaker 17: the whole time, we stopped in Indianapolis and got to

2071
01:31:51,834 --> 01:31:53,954
Speaker 17: experience us saying almost.

2072
01:31:53,514 --> 01:31:56,994
Speaker 13: Shrimp cocktail, oh nice.

2073
01:31:57,274 --> 01:32:00,234
Speaker 17: Which was which was overpowering. I mean that that is

2074
01:32:00,234 --> 01:32:05,114
Speaker 17: some strong stuff over there. And checked off Soldier Fields

2075
01:32:05,154 --> 01:32:07,114
Speaker 17: from from my bucket list of places that I wanted

2076
01:32:07,154 --> 01:32:08,834
Speaker 17: to go. That place is actually really cool.

2077
01:32:09,634 --> 01:32:13,514
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's dump though they're already looking for a new stadium.

2078
01:32:15,514 --> 01:32:15,714
Speaker 7: Years.

2079
01:32:15,794 --> 01:32:17,074
Speaker 17: Yeah, the same thing.

2080
01:32:16,954 --> 01:32:20,794
Speaker 4: With Yeah, but it's a dump. I mean that was

2081
01:32:20,994 --> 01:32:22,354
Speaker 4: I mean, that is a dump.

2082
01:32:24,354 --> 01:32:29,674
Speaker 3: But it's a story of the historic places. You can't

2083
01:32:29,674 --> 01:32:33,594
Speaker 3: beat the setting right there on the Lake day, Yeah,

2084
01:32:33,714 --> 01:32:34,194
Speaker 3: I agree.

2085
01:32:34,274 --> 01:32:36,034
Speaker 13: Yeah, and and.

2086
01:32:36,074 --> 01:32:38,034
Speaker 17: The day before Veterans Day, like the whole thing that

2087
01:32:38,074 --> 01:32:41,514
Speaker 17: they did over there was actually really really cool. But

2088
01:32:42,034 --> 01:32:43,954
Speaker 17: I'm excited. I mean, I know I was down a

2089
01:32:43,954 --> 01:32:46,994
Speaker 17: couple of weeks ago when I called in, but obviously

2090
01:32:47,074 --> 01:32:49,994
Speaker 17: getting Drake in and the way that they perform, and

2091
01:32:49,994 --> 01:32:52,474
Speaker 17: I mean just seeing that comeback against the Titans, I

2092
01:32:52,514 --> 01:32:56,394
Speaker 17: mean that was really impressive and just the I think

2093
01:32:56,434 --> 01:32:58,314
Speaker 17: we've turned the corner and I think the team has

2094
01:32:58,354 --> 01:33:01,754
Speaker 17: got some positive energy. I think Mayo is pushing the

2095
01:33:01,834 --> 01:33:07,434
Speaker 17: right buttons. Hopefully Alex Abp keeps developing Drake and Drake

2096
01:33:07,554 --> 01:33:12,034
Speaker 17: just keeps ticking a stronger and larger leadership role in

2097
01:33:12,194 --> 01:33:12,834
Speaker 17: the team.

2098
01:33:13,034 --> 01:33:18,354
Speaker 3: Okay, I agree, Thanks Mike, appreciate the call. Uh, let's

2099
01:33:18,394 --> 01:33:27,754
Speaker 3: go to Arizona where Riley's on the phone. What's up? Riley? Riley? Hello, right?

2100
01:33:27,914 --> 01:33:29,554
Speaker 3: What what is going on?

2101
01:33:29,674 --> 01:33:31,434
Speaker 4: I had one of his kids waiting online.

2102
01:33:31,474 --> 01:33:34,994
Speaker 11: I believe I was going, Uh, first time puller here.

2103
01:33:35,354 --> 01:33:37,914
Speaker 11: I've been a listener for a couple of years now,

2104
01:33:38,034 --> 01:33:42,794
Speaker 11: but first time calling. So just wanted to say, uh

2105
01:33:43,074 --> 01:33:46,274
Speaker 11: that you guys are my favorite Patriots podcasts to listen to.

2106
01:33:46,514 --> 01:33:49,954
Speaker 11: I listened to some of the others and I just

2107
01:33:49,994 --> 01:33:54,154
Speaker 11: want to say Felder and maz are some real bozos.

2108
01:33:54,914 --> 01:33:58,874
Speaker 11: Listening to them a little bit yesterday, and they couldn't

2109
01:33:58,874 --> 01:34:02,834
Speaker 11: even pronounce Brendan Schooler's name correctly. They kept calling and

2110
01:34:02,914 --> 01:34:04,834
Speaker 11: Brandon brain and Schooler.

2111
01:34:05,794 --> 01:34:07,714
Speaker 3: Well, that that's disrespect.

2112
01:34:08,434 --> 01:34:10,954
Speaker 11: That's how they yeah, exactly, And to me, it's just like,

2113
01:34:11,074 --> 01:34:14,594
Speaker 11: how are you gonna have a podcast about Patriots football

2114
01:34:14,634 --> 01:34:18,274
Speaker 11: but not even educate yourselves on the players and pronounce

2115
01:34:18,314 --> 01:34:19,274
Speaker 11: their names correctly?

2116
01:34:20,554 --> 01:34:24,154
Speaker 6: It is awful, I agree.

2117
01:34:25,714 --> 01:34:30,194
Speaker 11: And then I just have two other quick things. This

2118
01:34:30,354 --> 01:34:33,834
Speaker 11: might be more of a question for Evan, but between

2119
01:34:33,954 --> 01:34:39,994
Speaker 11: Kelvin Banks and Will Campbell, who would you guys rather

2120
01:34:40,154 --> 01:34:45,714
Speaker 11: draft and why? And then lastly, I know we've talked

2121
01:34:45,754 --> 01:34:47,914
Speaker 11: a lot about C Higgins and how he's going to

2122
01:34:47,954 --> 01:34:52,274
Speaker 11: be a free agent, But if we weren't able to

2123
01:34:52,394 --> 01:34:56,754
Speaker 11: land C Higgins, what other wide receivers would you like

2124
01:34:56,914 --> 01:35:00,514
Speaker 11: to see us go after, especially considering s Higgins's kind

2125
01:35:00,514 --> 01:35:03,234
Speaker 11: of injury prone and has been the last couple of seasons.

2126
01:35:05,034 --> 01:35:09,194
Speaker 11: And then finally, I hope to see you guys at

2127
01:35:09,274 --> 01:35:12,794
Speaker 11: the Cardinals Patriots game on the fifteenth. Just bought my

2128
01:35:12,874 --> 01:35:18,354
Speaker 11: ticket last weekend, so super soaked for that and looking forward.

2129
01:35:18,074 --> 01:35:21,594
Speaker 3: To it, all right, thanks Riley. I wonder if there's

2130
01:35:21,594 --> 01:35:24,394
Speaker 3: any fan stuff gonna happen in Arizona, we'll have to go,

2131
01:35:24,634 --> 01:35:25,154
Speaker 3: so thanks time.

2132
01:35:25,314 --> 01:35:26,714
Speaker 9: But big Finkle down there, right.

2133
01:35:26,634 --> 01:35:30,194
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, how much they used to opine on

2134
01:35:30,434 --> 01:35:34,474
Speaker 4: various things. I mean yeah, speaking of PFW and progress timelines,

2135
01:35:35,634 --> 01:35:38,034
Speaker 4: Evans answer to the tackle question would be, whichever one

2136
01:35:38,074 --> 01:35:39,154
Speaker 4: of them has thirty three.

2137
01:35:39,394 --> 01:35:42,754
Speaker 6: Inch right that it's true? I mean, I haven't. I've

2138
01:35:42,794 --> 01:35:44,074
Speaker 6: done enough just on those guys like.

2139
01:35:44,354 --> 01:35:44,914
Speaker 4: I like them both.

2140
01:35:44,914 --> 01:35:46,834
Speaker 6: They're both, They're both have some question marks though. I

2141
01:35:46,834 --> 01:35:48,794
Speaker 6: think at the start of the season everyone said these

2142
01:35:48,794 --> 01:35:51,554
Speaker 6: two guys are top five left tackle the future, and

2143
01:35:51,594 --> 01:35:53,794
Speaker 6: now they're both have, you know, questions if they'll be

2144
01:35:53,794 --> 01:35:55,074
Speaker 6: able to develop into those players.

2145
01:35:55,114 --> 01:35:56,314
Speaker 9: I think I think.

2146
01:35:56,154 --> 01:35:58,274
Speaker 6: Banks is maybe a little bit more high ceiling, a

2147
01:35:58,274 --> 01:36:00,314
Speaker 6: little bit more athletic, but there'll be plenty of time

2148
01:36:00,314 --> 01:36:02,754
Speaker 6: to get into that. I just think of the Patriots

2149
01:36:02,794 --> 01:36:05,634
Speaker 6: are seven, eight, nine, ten somewhere in there that that's

2150
01:36:05,674 --> 01:36:06,314
Speaker 6: probably a good.

2151
01:36:06,954 --> 01:36:09,474
Speaker 3: At some point early on, I looked at who were

2152
01:36:10,034 --> 01:36:13,234
Speaker 3: the projected free agents for wide receivers next year, and

2153
01:36:13,274 --> 01:36:15,594
Speaker 3: now I forget who they are. Is are there any

2154
01:36:15,594 --> 01:36:18,034
Speaker 3: big names that are going to be legitimate free agents,

2155
01:36:18,074 --> 01:36:20,314
Speaker 3: because don't rule out trades too, because that can happen

2156
01:36:20,354 --> 01:36:20,674
Speaker 3: as well.

2157
01:36:20,834 --> 01:36:23,074
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know who's going to be traded the

2158
01:36:23,074 --> 01:36:26,394
Speaker 4: free agent list. I mean I think most people put

2159
01:36:26,474 --> 01:36:29,994
Speaker 4: T Higgins at the top of the list, So yeah,

2160
01:36:30,154 --> 01:36:30,594
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2161
01:36:30,674 --> 01:36:34,034
Speaker 3: Then it's not great. It's okay if he's in.

2162
01:36:34,074 --> 01:36:37,874
Speaker 4: The top, you know, well for free agents. For free agents,

2163
01:36:38,034 --> 01:36:40,994
Speaker 4: that's pretty high. Like usually the guys don't become free agents.

2164
01:36:42,234 --> 01:36:44,874
Speaker 4: It's kind of it's not as bad as left tackle,

2165
01:36:45,794 --> 01:36:48,754
Speaker 4: but usually you trade the guy if you don't think

2166
01:36:48,794 --> 01:36:51,114
Speaker 4: you're gonna be able to resign him. That's why you

2167
01:36:51,154 --> 01:36:52,994
Speaker 4: have seen a lot of high profile trades. So you're

2168
01:36:52,994 --> 01:36:56,954
Speaker 4: not wrong to think trade market. See who's you know,

2169
01:36:57,274 --> 01:37:00,314
Speaker 4: if you know, forget T Higgins, are they going to

2170
01:37:00,354 --> 01:37:03,194
Speaker 4: continue to sort of screw around with Jamar Chase.

2171
01:37:05,154 --> 01:37:05,834
Speaker 9: Opportunistic?

2172
01:37:06,234 --> 01:37:08,274
Speaker 4: So they're going to have to get him signed. You

2173
01:37:08,314 --> 01:37:12,194
Speaker 4: know in this offseason. He's not gonna want to play

2174
01:37:12,234 --> 01:37:14,274
Speaker 4: it out. I mean he already held out all of

2175
01:37:14,274 --> 01:37:16,994
Speaker 4: the summer. You know, after his third year, he's not

2176
01:37:17,034 --> 01:37:19,354
Speaker 4: gonna want to play it out, you know, heading into

2177
01:37:19,394 --> 01:37:23,194
Speaker 4: his h his fourth year, right, that's this is his

2178
01:37:23,234 --> 01:37:27,274
Speaker 4: third year heading into his fourth year. Yeah, make them

2179
01:37:27,234 --> 01:37:29,154
Speaker 4: an off whe we can't refuse Chase.

2180
01:37:29,234 --> 01:37:31,594
Speaker 9: Yes, I would take mar Chase, Yes for sure.

2181
01:37:31,674 --> 01:37:35,874
Speaker 4: I mean, if we're looking at guys to target, why

2182
01:37:35,914 --> 01:37:39,154
Speaker 4: not go for that. But that's the the A J.

2183
01:37:39,674 --> 01:37:41,594
Speaker 4: That's the year that you do it.

2184
01:37:41,714 --> 01:37:44,554
Speaker 9: Yeah right, you know you got the money to do it.

2185
01:37:44,554 --> 01:37:46,994
Speaker 9: Like that moves my needle. I just I just don't

2186
01:37:47,034 --> 01:37:47,914
Speaker 9: like to get off.

2187
01:37:50,154 --> 01:37:50,194
Speaker 17: T.

2188
01:37:50,674 --> 01:37:53,074
Speaker 6: Higgins and like, I just I don't, I don't know,

2189
01:37:53,114 --> 01:37:55,594
Speaker 6: I just I'm I'm over pining for any wide receiver

2190
01:37:55,634 --> 01:37:57,074
Speaker 6: with a pulse outside.

2191
01:37:56,714 --> 01:37:57,314
Speaker 9: Of the building.

2192
01:37:57,594 --> 01:37:59,274
Speaker 6: I think we see every year there are guys that

2193
01:37:59,314 --> 01:38:01,394
Speaker 6: come in that are good. So you know, I think

2194
01:38:01,434 --> 01:38:03,674
Speaker 6: my primary thing would be certainly like if you could

2195
01:38:03,714 --> 01:38:05,794
Speaker 6: get you know, and there's probably five guys that I

2196
01:38:05,834 --> 01:38:06,794
Speaker 6: would say that about.

2197
01:38:06,594 --> 01:38:07,474
Speaker 9: In the league. Certainly A J.

2198
01:38:07,594 --> 01:38:10,474
Speaker 6: Brown was you know one of them. T Higgins is not,

2199
01:38:10,634 --> 01:38:13,434
Speaker 6: but you know Jamar Chase definitely is. I just continue

2200
01:38:13,434 --> 01:38:16,354
Speaker 6: to stack these guys. I date day two picks speed,

2201
01:38:16,474 --> 01:38:18,434
Speaker 6: Day two pick wide receiver speed.

2202
01:38:18,474 --> 01:38:21,074
Speaker 9: That to me is how how you should do it.

2203
01:38:21,154 --> 01:38:22,994
Speaker 9: And you know, I just I don't know. I just

2204
01:38:23,074 --> 01:38:24,113
Speaker 9: I can't spend another.

2205
01:38:23,914 --> 01:38:27,034
Speaker 6: Offseason taking twenty five calls about T Higgins as if

2206
01:38:27,474 --> 01:38:29,834
Speaker 6: he is the answer to everything, and I like, there's another.

2207
01:38:29,594 --> 01:38:29,954
Speaker 3: Part of it.

2208
01:38:29,994 --> 01:38:31,594
Speaker 4: Two to be alone is not the answer to every

2209
01:38:31,634 --> 01:38:31,954
Speaker 4: now now.

2210
01:38:31,914 --> 01:38:33,354
Speaker 6: And I know you said they need two guys, but

2211
01:38:33,394 --> 01:38:36,994
Speaker 6: I just there's an appeal to me in developing guys

2212
01:38:37,074 --> 01:38:38,354
Speaker 6: and they're all coming in together.

2213
01:38:38,434 --> 01:38:40,994
Speaker 9: Whereas when you're gonna go out and you're gonna.

2214
01:38:40,714 --> 01:38:43,594
Speaker 6: Pay huge money to a guy who already did it elsewhere,

2215
01:38:44,114 --> 01:38:47,314
Speaker 6: this guy's gonna come in with expectations, with an ego,

2216
01:38:47,674 --> 01:38:50,034
Speaker 6: And so I just think from a team building dynamic,

2217
01:38:50,034 --> 01:38:53,034
Speaker 6: there's something to be said for working your way up

2218
01:38:53,074 --> 01:38:55,034
Speaker 6: with guys and Drake May, you draft a guy this

2219
01:38:55,114 --> 01:38:57,914
Speaker 6: year and they earn that chemistry and they're all in

2220
01:38:57,994 --> 01:39:00,754
Speaker 6: it together instead of Drake May. And some guys start

2221
01:39:00,754 --> 01:39:02,474
Speaker 6: to work together and okay, guys, now we're going to

2222
01:39:02,514 --> 01:39:04,074
Speaker 6: bring in this superstar and.

2223
01:39:04,194 --> 01:39:06,474
Speaker 9: It might work out great. But there's also another element.

2224
01:39:06,794 --> 01:39:09,154
Speaker 4: This is good, this's a good discussion. Let me ask you,

2225
01:39:09,194 --> 01:39:14,674
Speaker 4: do you think Philadelphia, do you think Howie Roseman likes

2226
01:39:15,314 --> 01:39:17,114
Speaker 4: DeVante Smith more than AJ Brown?

2227
01:39:17,634 --> 01:39:19,994
Speaker 6: Well, I would say I like AJ Brown is one

2228
01:39:20,034 --> 01:39:22,154
Speaker 6: of these guys of come hell or Higwase.

2229
01:39:21,834 --> 01:39:24,914
Speaker 4: But I'm not necessarily talking about like as a player.

2230
01:39:25,074 --> 01:39:28,314
Speaker 4: Like he likes the fact these are both great wide

2231
01:39:28,314 --> 01:39:31,594
Speaker 4: receivers that we have. But I drafted and developed Deavante Smith,

2232
01:39:31,634 --> 01:39:34,554
Speaker 4: whereas I just traded for someone else to develop aj Brown.

2233
01:39:34,634 --> 01:39:36,034
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody cares. No.

2234
01:39:36,234 --> 01:39:37,594
Speaker 3: And there's the point.

2235
01:39:37,394 --> 01:39:39,354
Speaker 4: That you need to have is you need to hit

2236
01:39:39,394 --> 01:39:42,314
Speaker 4: on both. So I'm all in on the Mike Dusaut

2237
01:39:42,354 --> 01:39:47,034
Speaker 4: plan of let's get another T Higgins in the second round.

2238
01:39:48,234 --> 01:39:49,914
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm hoping for with the second

2239
01:39:49,954 --> 01:39:54,594
Speaker 4: round pick T Higgins? Right, So why not draft whoever

2240
01:39:54,714 --> 01:39:57,554
Speaker 4: in the second round and signed T Higgins and then

2241
01:39:57,634 --> 01:39:59,514
Speaker 4: maybe the guy in the second round turns out to

2242
01:39:59,514 --> 01:40:01,394
Speaker 4: be better than T Higgins and I have a one

2243
01:40:01,434 --> 01:40:03,714
Speaker 4: in a two yep. I would just say so, like

2244
01:40:03,754 --> 01:40:06,514
Speaker 4: the whole like, and this is again, I'm gonna pick

2245
01:40:06,554 --> 01:40:08,514
Speaker 4: on mad again because this is what Mattick goes. Matt

2246
01:40:08,554 --> 01:40:11,274
Speaker 4: hates all of these guys like Jamar Chase and Justin

2247
01:40:11,314 --> 01:40:13,113
Speaker 4: Jefferson are like the only two guys in the league

2248
01:40:13,194 --> 01:40:16,274
Speaker 4: that are worthy of his sort of admiration. And I

2249
01:40:16,314 --> 01:40:18,394
Speaker 4: get it, those guys are great. I love them both.

2250
01:40:18,994 --> 01:40:22,714
Speaker 4: They're not probably not available, right, right, So what do

2251
01:40:22,754 --> 01:40:26,834
Speaker 4: you do? Like he hated Calvin Ridley. Okay, I get it.

2252
01:40:26,874 --> 01:40:30,274
Speaker 4: Calvin Ridley's not AJ Brown, He's not Mike's right, he's

2253
01:40:30,274 --> 01:40:33,914
Speaker 4: not Justin Jefferson. But he's pretty good and you could

2254
01:40:33,914 --> 01:40:36,514
Speaker 4: have got him for a lot less than those guys cost,

2255
01:40:37,194 --> 01:40:40,514
Speaker 4: but unfortunately he didn't sign. Like, if you had him,

2256
01:40:40,874 --> 01:40:42,954
Speaker 4: I think you'd be one step closer to where you

2257
01:40:42,994 --> 01:40:45,794
Speaker 4: need to be with the wide receiver room. So find

2258
01:40:45,834 --> 01:40:48,834
Speaker 4: another one, yep in draft one. I like, I'm all

2259
01:40:48,914 --> 01:40:51,474
Speaker 4: on the deuce plant. Yeah, Like, you can't just say

2260
01:40:51,594 --> 01:40:54,394
Speaker 4: we're gonna sign T Higgins and everything's gonna be Okay, No,

2261
01:40:54,474 --> 01:40:54,914
Speaker 4: it won't be.

2262
01:40:55,394 --> 01:40:58,474
Speaker 3: No sucks think of Lad McConkey.

2263
01:40:58,754 --> 01:41:00,554
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pretty sure No Socks has no.

2264
01:41:00,554 --> 01:41:01,394
Speaker 9: Lack, I hear you.

2265
01:41:01,594 --> 01:41:03,754
Speaker 6: I just think like it becomes Yeah, I do it

2266
01:41:03,794 --> 01:41:05,194
Speaker 6: for Justin Jefferson, I do it for A J.

2267
01:41:05,314 --> 01:41:05,594
Speaker 7: Brown.

2268
01:41:05,674 --> 01:41:07,794
Speaker 6: Now I'll do it for Brandon Ayuk. Yeah, yeah, I'll

2269
01:41:07,794 --> 01:41:09,194
Speaker 6: do it for Calvin. Really, I'll do it for T.

2270
01:41:09,274 --> 01:41:09,714
Speaker 9: Higgins.

2271
01:41:09,714 --> 01:41:11,794
Speaker 6: Like at a certain point it just becomes a ton

2272
01:41:11,834 --> 01:41:13,514
Speaker 6: of issue for me where you're not talking about the

2273
01:41:13,554 --> 01:41:14,434
Speaker 6: same players anymore.

2274
01:41:14,434 --> 01:41:15,514
Speaker 9: You're talking about.

2275
01:41:15,554 --> 01:41:18,714
Speaker 6: Guys who are maybe more complimentary players, and like, if

2276
01:41:18,714 --> 01:41:21,474
Speaker 6: I'm gonna overextend I want a J Brown, I would

2277
01:41:21,514 --> 01:41:22,154
Speaker 6: have done it for Calvin.

2278
01:41:22,154 --> 01:41:23,914
Speaker 4: But I don't want to think I just want to

2279
01:41:23,954 --> 01:41:26,234
Speaker 4: sign a guy in a free agency And if I'm

2280
01:41:26,274 --> 01:41:28,994
Speaker 4: signing T Higgins and I think I'm getting Justin Jefferson,

2281
01:41:29,154 --> 01:41:32,154
Speaker 4: then I'm wrong. That's it. That's that's a that's a

2282
01:41:32,194 --> 01:41:35,594
Speaker 4: me problem. But T Higgins is a really good player.

2283
01:41:35,914 --> 01:41:37,554
Speaker 4: The callers right, I think it was the caller or

2284
01:41:37,554 --> 01:41:40,074
Speaker 4: the emailer. He's a little injury prone. It's had a

2285
01:41:40,114 --> 01:41:43,234
Speaker 4: couple of hamstring problems this year that have cost him

2286
01:41:43,434 --> 01:41:46,434
Speaker 4: multiple games, but when he's on the field, he's a

2287
01:41:46,434 --> 01:41:49,474
Speaker 4: difference maker for that team. Now you can say it's

2288
01:41:49,474 --> 01:41:52,714
Speaker 4: all because of Chase, you might be right, but he

2289
01:41:52,754 --> 01:41:56,354
Speaker 4: was a thousand yard receiver before Chase got there. He

2290
01:41:56,394 --> 01:41:58,794
Speaker 4: was a really good player as a rookie when they

2291
01:41:58,834 --> 01:42:02,674
Speaker 4: had nothing. It was Burrow and Higgins with a little

2292
01:42:02,674 --> 01:42:04,954
Speaker 4: bit of Tyler Boyd sprinkled in, and he was pretty good.

2293
01:42:04,994 --> 01:42:08,154
Speaker 3: Would you bring in Cooper Cup No, No, too old.

2294
01:42:08,274 --> 01:42:10,874
Speaker 4: I think he's a little past the speed I want speed.

2295
01:42:11,314 --> 01:42:14,554
Speaker 4: But you know what, you could probably convince me in

2296
01:42:14,634 --> 01:42:16,354
Speaker 4: Cooper Cup too. But now you definitely got to do

2297
01:42:16,394 --> 01:42:18,314
Speaker 4: the douce play. Oh yeah, you got to get someone

2298
01:42:18,354 --> 01:42:20,154
Speaker 4: about the answer. You got to get someone above.

2299
01:42:20,234 --> 01:42:20,434
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2300
01:42:20,714 --> 01:42:23,114
Speaker 9: And I think it all either plan feeds into what

2301
01:42:23,154 --> 01:42:23,594
Speaker 9: you're saying.

2302
01:42:23,754 --> 01:42:27,234
Speaker 6: They need to guys two guys that move the needle,

2303
01:42:27,274 --> 01:42:30,234
Speaker 6: and I mean, you're right one way or another, try

2304
01:42:30,234 --> 01:42:30,674
Speaker 6: to get them.

2305
01:42:30,674 --> 01:42:32,354
Speaker 9: I just I just think that there is.

2306
01:42:32,394 --> 01:42:34,994
Speaker 6: Value for if you can believe in your own internal development.

2307
01:42:35,034 --> 01:42:36,354
Speaker 6: And like I mean it to be honest, other side

2308
01:42:36,354 --> 01:42:37,674
Speaker 6: of the ball, like I've kind of got to crush

2309
01:42:37,714 --> 01:42:39,594
Speaker 6: a little bit on what the Rams are doing on defense,

2310
01:42:39,634 --> 01:42:42,194
Speaker 6: where over the last couple of years they've hit a

2311
01:42:42,274 --> 01:42:45,274
Speaker 6: multiple defensive draft picks, and you heard the guys this

2312
01:42:45,394 --> 01:42:48,434
Speaker 6: morning talking about how hard those guys are playing, and

2313
01:42:48,474 --> 01:42:50,394
Speaker 6: you know, statistically you look at them, they don't look

2314
01:42:50,394 --> 01:42:52,874
Speaker 6: overwhelming or anything like that. But over the course of

2315
01:42:52,914 --> 01:42:55,394
Speaker 6: two years, you've got at least four guys in your

2316
01:42:55,434 --> 01:42:57,554
Speaker 6: front that were drafted over the first two days of

2317
01:42:57,594 --> 01:42:59,874
Speaker 6: the draft that are making impacts now and that are

2318
01:42:59,874 --> 01:43:02,234
Speaker 6: all starting to grow together. And that to me is

2319
01:43:02,314 --> 01:43:04,514
Speaker 6: like the sexiest thing of all team building is like.

2320
01:43:04,474 --> 01:43:06,954
Speaker 9: When you nail the draft. You got young, a young

2321
01:43:07,034 --> 01:43:10,073
Speaker 9: cores that all grows together, that all gets experienced together.

2322
01:43:10,354 --> 01:43:11,834
Speaker 9: Like that, that's ideal to me.

2323
01:43:11,914 --> 01:43:16,354
Speaker 3: Ella's from Wisconsin says, Mike is completely right on wide receivers.

2324
01:43:16,754 --> 01:43:18,794
Speaker 3: We should trust our front office to pick a wide

2325
01:43:18,834 --> 01:43:22,314
Speaker 3: receiver in the draft. Just look at their track record.

2326
01:43:22,794 --> 01:43:24,194
Speaker 4: That was going to be a mass stiff.

2327
01:43:25,394 --> 01:43:27,554
Speaker 9: That's and that's totally fair. But what do you do.

2328
01:43:27,674 --> 01:43:29,634
Speaker 9: Just stop drafting wide receivers. You're never going to do

2329
01:43:29,634 --> 01:43:29,954
Speaker 9: it again.

2330
01:43:30,114 --> 01:43:30,794
Speaker 4: You can't do it.

2331
01:43:31,074 --> 01:43:33,674
Speaker 3: Is like they did with tight ends. They kept drafting

2332
01:43:33,714 --> 01:43:34,514
Speaker 3: tight ends until they.

2333
01:43:34,474 --> 01:43:37,074
Speaker 6: Got and like I mean, I'm sorry, just you know,

2334
01:43:37,394 --> 01:43:39,794
Speaker 6: draft a lot of times guys don't work out, and

2335
01:43:39,834 --> 01:43:41,994
Speaker 6: you just have to continue to hit it. And you know,

2336
01:43:42,034 --> 01:43:43,434
Speaker 6: Paul and I have said this since the first time

2337
01:43:43,474 --> 01:43:44,634
Speaker 6: I went to the combine with him.

2338
01:43:45,034 --> 01:43:47,434
Speaker 9: Every year there's guys every year.

2339
01:43:47,274 --> 01:43:49,474
Speaker 6: And granted they haven't hit him, and they didn't really

2340
01:43:49,474 --> 01:43:50,994
Speaker 6: seem like they hit him this year either, even though

2341
01:43:51,034 --> 01:43:53,314
Speaker 6: they did what we've been wanting them to do forever,

2342
01:43:53,394 --> 01:43:55,994
Speaker 6: which is go double dip on the receivers. You gotta

2343
01:43:56,074 --> 01:43:58,034
Speaker 6: keep you gotta keep doing it. There's too much talent

2344
01:43:58,114 --> 01:44:00,074
Speaker 6: out there, Like you can't hit it.

2345
01:44:00,154 --> 01:44:02,954
Speaker 4: You can't just say like, well we don't evaluate that position.

2346
01:44:03,034 --> 01:44:05,834
Speaker 4: Well yeah, and say well you got to keep trying

2347
01:44:05,874 --> 01:44:06,754
Speaker 4: and you got to get it right.

2348
01:44:07,434 --> 01:44:09,113
Speaker 3: Uhn. Cody's in West Virginia.

2349
01:44:09,194 --> 01:44:11,113
Speaker 9: What's up to, Cody?

2350
01:44:11,234 --> 01:44:12,274
Speaker 3: Hey, guys doing good?

2351
01:44:12,354 --> 01:44:13,794
Speaker 6: Hey good?

2352
01:44:14,314 --> 01:44:16,674
Speaker 12: Uh you guys were just talking about the draft. I know,

2353
01:44:17,274 --> 01:44:19,634
Speaker 12: probably a little sticking in hearing about it now, especially

2354
01:44:20,154 --> 01:44:25,234
Speaker 12: being months away from now, but I think the bestops

2355
01:44:25,514 --> 01:44:28,514
Speaker 12: right now is to choose a wide receiver in the

2356
01:44:28,554 --> 01:44:32,154
Speaker 12: first round because there is a left tackle in the

2357
01:44:32,154 --> 01:44:34,794
Speaker 12: second round, like projected to go in the second round. Now,

2358
01:44:34,834 --> 01:44:36,554
Speaker 12: I'm going to sound like a bit of a homework

2359
01:44:36,554 --> 01:44:40,314
Speaker 12: because he is from WVU. His name is why Milam,

2360
01:44:41,154 --> 01:44:45,234
Speaker 12: and some stats for you. He's the only lineman who's

2361
01:44:45,274 --> 01:44:49,034
Speaker 12: graded at eighty five and fast blocking and run blocking

2362
01:44:49,954 --> 01:44:53,034
Speaker 12: and hasn't given up a pressure and hasn't given up

2363
01:44:53,074 --> 01:44:55,234
Speaker 12: a sack in the past two years. So I'm wondering

2364
01:44:55,274 --> 01:44:57,674
Speaker 12: if you think that would be okay, you know, maybe

2365
01:44:57,834 --> 01:45:02,034
Speaker 12: drafts McMillan and then choose him in the second round,

2366
01:45:02,394 --> 01:45:05,074
Speaker 12: or maybe just you know, double diet that left tackle. Listen,

2367
01:45:05,634 --> 01:45:06,514
Speaker 12: I'll take it off the air.

2368
01:45:06,594 --> 01:45:10,274
Speaker 3: I thank you, Cody, you know I don't know about

2369
01:45:10,274 --> 01:45:14,394
Speaker 3: the guy, but if the stats are true and I much,

2370
01:45:14,554 --> 01:45:18,314
Speaker 3: I'd much prefer doing that, taking a good left tackle

2371
01:45:18,354 --> 01:45:22,194
Speaker 3: in the second round and using the first round for

2372
01:45:23,554 --> 01:45:27,274
Speaker 3: you know, a skill position player who is more of

2373
01:45:27,314 --> 01:45:31,234
Speaker 3: a sure thing. Yeah, you know, so I like that.

2374
01:45:31,314 --> 01:45:32,314
Speaker 3: I don't what what was the name?

2375
01:45:32,474 --> 01:45:36,794
Speaker 4: That was a great fretism? Though a little twist, because

2376
01:45:36,794 --> 01:45:38,274
Speaker 4: I'm all on board with everything you said. But he

2377
01:45:38,274 --> 01:45:38,914
Speaker 4: had a little twist?

2378
01:45:39,274 --> 01:45:39,434
Speaker 7: Was it?

2379
01:45:39,994 --> 01:45:41,194
Speaker 4: Who's more of a sure thing?

2380
01:45:41,354 --> 01:45:41,994
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2381
01:45:42,114 --> 01:45:45,154
Speaker 4: I agree. If I have a guy, if I'm choosing

2382
01:45:45,194 --> 01:45:47,554
Speaker 4: at number five between this guy and this guy, I'll

2383
01:45:47,554 --> 01:45:49,074
Speaker 4: take the guy that's more of a sure thing. I

2384
01:45:49,114 --> 01:45:51,034
Speaker 4: don't care about his position. If he's more of a

2385
01:45:51,074 --> 01:45:52,074
Speaker 4: sure thing, I want him.

2386
01:45:52,114 --> 01:45:53,074
Speaker 3: But i'd rather have a no.

2387
01:45:53,234 --> 01:45:55,834
Speaker 4: But I don't know that, not that McMillan is more

2388
01:45:55,834 --> 01:45:58,154
Speaker 4: of a sure thing.

2389
01:45:58,234 --> 01:46:00,314
Speaker 3: If I'm drafting high in the first round, I'd rather

2390
01:46:00,354 --> 01:46:03,754
Speaker 3: have a sure thing skill position player than a sure

2391
01:46:03,794 --> 01:46:04,474
Speaker 3: thing tackle.

2392
01:46:05,314 --> 01:46:07,554
Speaker 4: Okay, so you're saying you'd rather have the wide receiver

2393
01:46:07,594 --> 01:46:10,234
Speaker 4: than the tackle if they're equal. Yeah, okay, so that's different.

2394
01:46:10,794 --> 01:46:13,234
Speaker 9: What about if it's a sure thing but he might

2395
01:46:13,274 --> 01:46:14,834
Speaker 9: not be able to play tackle, But then they'd be

2396
01:46:14,874 --> 01:46:17,074
Speaker 9: a sure thing at guard because I think that's kind

2397
01:46:17,074 --> 01:46:18,754
Speaker 9: of what is going on Will Campbell.

2398
01:46:18,914 --> 01:46:20,634
Speaker 4: That's not going to be Banks. Banks is at tackle

2399
01:46:21,474 --> 01:46:22,194
Speaker 4: Will Campbell's.

2400
01:46:22,354 --> 01:46:24,034
Speaker 6: I mean, that's some of the speculation with him of

2401
01:46:24,554 --> 01:46:27,154
Speaker 6: if he can't tackle because he's got thirty two inch arms.

2402
01:46:27,234 --> 01:46:29,274
Speaker 3: But now you but now you've reached that.

2403
01:46:29,874 --> 01:46:31,794
Speaker 4: Well that's why you find but you know all this

2404
01:46:31,834 --> 01:46:33,994
Speaker 4: stuff before the draft, right, like you know that if

2405
01:46:33,994 --> 01:46:37,154
Speaker 4: he doesn't have the evan requisite arm length.

2406
01:46:37,274 --> 01:46:38,674
Speaker 3: But who was what was the name of the guy

2407
01:46:38,674 --> 01:46:41,674
Speaker 3: from West Virginia Cody? No, No, no, the guy the

2408
01:46:41,714 --> 01:46:45,114
Speaker 3: player I couldn't We're gonna draft Cody.

2409
01:46:45,394 --> 01:46:47,234
Speaker 4: Well, I just remember different names.

2410
01:46:47,234 --> 01:46:49,514
Speaker 3: So we're gonna have to look at this guy because

2411
01:46:49,554 --> 01:46:53,394
Speaker 3: if those stats are correct, Yeah, that's a high rating

2412
01:46:53,394 --> 01:46:53,674
Speaker 3: and all.

2413
01:46:53,714 --> 01:46:56,114
Speaker 4: It's just what I mean, can I see what the

2414
01:46:56,234 --> 01:46:57,154
Speaker 4: scouts think of him?

2415
01:46:57,554 --> 01:46:58,754
Speaker 3: Well, don't really do much.

2416
01:46:58,794 --> 01:47:01,154
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, Will Campbell plays l s u

2417
01:47:01,394 --> 01:47:03,354
Speaker 6: is you know, a stud left tackle and the like.

2418
01:47:03,394 --> 01:47:04,994
Speaker 9: We don't even know if he can play it left

2419
01:47:05,074 --> 01:47:05,914
Speaker 9: like even.

2420
01:47:05,754 --> 01:47:08,354
Speaker 4: Though they're playing against the best of the best, not

2421
01:47:08,394 --> 01:47:09,114
Speaker 4: the big twelve.

2422
01:47:09,354 --> 01:47:11,314
Speaker 9: Yeah, right, it's hard.

2423
01:47:11,354 --> 01:47:13,674
Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's what the frustrating thing is with

2424
01:47:13,714 --> 01:47:15,914
Speaker 6: like a lot of these linemen developed where it's like

2425
01:47:16,114 --> 01:47:17,834
Speaker 6: he's a left tackle, but he's probably gonna end up

2426
01:47:17,794 --> 01:47:18,354
Speaker 6: inside a guard.

2427
01:47:18,394 --> 01:47:19,394
Speaker 9: There's so many of those.

2428
01:47:19,474 --> 01:47:22,554
Speaker 4: Come all, I'm all in Onna Coody's theory if that

2429
01:47:22,674 --> 01:47:23,314
Speaker 4: kid and I.

2430
01:47:23,314 --> 01:47:25,074
Speaker 9: Don't a little gym, I don't pretend to know.

2431
01:47:25,354 --> 01:47:28,234
Speaker 4: But like, listen, how many guys were in the second

2432
01:47:28,274 --> 01:47:31,234
Speaker 4: round last year at tackle I would have taken.

2433
01:47:32,954 --> 01:47:33,274
Speaker 3: Run it.

2434
01:47:33,754 --> 01:47:37,114
Speaker 4: You know, ros and Garden and you know Uni, like

2435
01:47:37,154 --> 01:47:40,434
Speaker 4: all those guys. Now they're probably a little further away

2436
01:47:40,474 --> 01:47:43,714
Speaker 4: from being you know, NFL ready. That's why their second

2437
01:47:43,754 --> 01:47:46,834
Speaker 4: round pick, right. So that so those guys, some of

2438
01:47:46,874 --> 01:47:48,914
Speaker 4: those guys that have played, they've struggled a little bit.

2439
01:47:49,594 --> 01:47:51,994
Speaker 4: You know, Believe me, I find I hear about it

2440
01:47:52,034 --> 01:47:55,194
Speaker 4: because you know, I wanted to draft one of them,

2441
01:47:55,194 --> 01:47:58,554
Speaker 4: and you know, everybody, one of the ones.

2442
01:47:58,354 --> 01:48:00,274
Speaker 9: That was availed impossible, couldn't have done it.

2443
01:48:00,394 --> 01:48:02,314
Speaker 4: One of the ones that was available. You smell like

2444
01:48:02,354 --> 01:48:03,674
Speaker 4: outside again, it's cold.

2445
01:48:03,714 --> 01:48:07,234
Speaker 3: I can tell Sweitch up. Evan is here and he

2446
01:48:07,354 --> 01:48:13,194
Speaker 3: looks cold and.

2447
01:48:13,114 --> 01:48:14,834
Speaker 9: Then has turned.

2448
01:48:16,874 --> 01:48:21,074
Speaker 1: Has turned.

2449
01:48:22,794 --> 01:48:25,434
Speaker 3: So you're making a big deal about the weather. It

2450
01:48:25,514 --> 01:48:26,514
Speaker 3: was freezing out there.

2451
01:48:26,554 --> 01:48:29,314
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say it was freezing, but we're definitely we

2452
01:48:29,674 --> 01:48:32,394
Speaker 5: got football weather out there. Now we're not we're not

2453
01:48:32,514 --> 01:48:35,514
Speaker 5: doing this, you know, global warming stuff anymore. This is

2454
01:48:35,954 --> 01:48:37,714
Speaker 5: we're getting a little Last.

2455
01:48:37,474 --> 01:48:39,594
Speaker 3: Week, you were complaining about people talking.

2456
01:48:39,354 --> 01:48:40,514
Speaker 9: About he doesn't like it.

2457
01:48:40,634 --> 01:48:44,034
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I don't like people that like exaggerate about

2458
01:48:44,034 --> 01:48:47,634
Speaker 5: the weather. You know, like, we go outside, it's so beautiful,

2459
01:48:47,794 --> 01:48:52,314
Speaker 5: let's work outside, November beautiful. Let's bring our laptops out

2460
01:48:52,354 --> 01:48:54,954
Speaker 5: here today, guys, let's let's have school outside.

2461
01:48:55,114 --> 01:48:58,634
Speaker 3: Oh, he doesn't want what a weather curmudgets.

2462
01:49:00,394 --> 01:49:02,034
Speaker 6: And when he's complaining about the nice weather, and then

2463
01:49:02,034 --> 01:49:04,034
Speaker 6: the first day it's cold today, he's like, I'm gonna.

2464
01:49:03,794 --> 01:49:05,874
Speaker 3: Go upstairs, you know.

2465
01:49:06,034 --> 01:49:08,074
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't care if I stayed inside in the building.

2466
01:49:08,154 --> 01:49:09,154
Speaker 5: I don't care for the cold.

2467
01:49:09,354 --> 01:49:11,474
Speaker 3: You don't care for the cold, No, you're up here.

2468
01:49:11,634 --> 01:49:13,514
Speaker 5: Went to college in Ithaca, New York.

2469
01:49:13,634 --> 01:49:15,554
Speaker 9: Don't care for the cold in California.

2470
01:49:15,634 --> 01:49:17,394
Speaker 3: But did you care for practice? Today?

2471
01:49:17,714 --> 01:49:20,874
Speaker 5: Practice was? Practice was upbeat? Today?

2472
01:49:20,954 --> 01:49:23,834
Speaker 3: Upbeat? I would say there was a mood, a discernible

2473
01:49:23,954 --> 01:49:24,714
Speaker 3: mood shift.

2474
01:49:24,834 --> 01:49:27,914
Speaker 5: There was a mood shift a little bit. I wouldn't

2475
01:49:27,914 --> 01:49:29,754
Speaker 5: you know, I don't want to exaggerate too much, but

2476
01:49:30,034 --> 01:49:33,914
Speaker 5: definitely enough beat practice and uh, I thought, uh, whoever

2477
01:49:33,994 --> 01:49:35,874
Speaker 5: was on the ox cord is doing a great job

2478
01:49:35,954 --> 01:49:38,634
Speaker 5: getting some nice tunes in there too to fire the

2479
01:49:38,714 --> 01:49:41,074
Speaker 5: group up. And it was good to see Kyle Duggar

2480
01:49:41,154 --> 01:49:45,354
Speaker 5: back at practice. Whoever was on the what the OX cord? Like,

2481
01:49:45,634 --> 01:49:48,154
Speaker 5: you're the phone rug into the speaker and then you

2482
01:49:48,194 --> 01:49:51,754
Speaker 5: play the music through the chord and OX yeah, a UX.

2483
01:49:51,474 --> 01:49:54,154
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the cord. Tell me how you dress?

2484
01:49:54,234 --> 01:49:55,714
Speaker 3: And that's what the kids say.

2485
01:49:55,914 --> 01:49:59,794
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's what I said. I gotta be honest,

2486
01:49:59,834 --> 01:50:01,754
Speaker 5: I don't know what the kids say these days now

2487
01:50:01,794 --> 01:50:04,114
Speaker 5: you have you have Bluetooth and things like that.

2488
01:50:04,754 --> 01:50:06,514
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I've.

2489
01:50:06,394 --> 01:50:08,994
Speaker 3: Never heard that before. I just like, who's on the playlist?

2490
01:50:09,074 --> 01:50:11,314
Speaker 5: I've heard that, who's on the ox? It's kind of

2491
01:50:11,354 --> 01:50:14,354
Speaker 5: like the cord because, like you know, that was the

2492
01:50:14,394 --> 01:50:17,554
Speaker 5: first time that you could go phone to car speakers

2493
01:50:17,794 --> 01:50:19,994
Speaker 5: was with the OX cord or the tape decks. Really

2494
01:50:20,074 --> 01:50:20,794
Speaker 5: was the first time.

2495
01:50:20,834 --> 01:50:23,474
Speaker 9: But I still have to do that on their car's bluetooth.

2496
01:50:23,674 --> 01:50:24,434
Speaker 5: Now it's bluetooth.

2497
01:50:24,434 --> 01:50:26,474
Speaker 6: You don't need the cord, right, not so everybody if

2498
01:50:26,474 --> 01:50:28,914
Speaker 6: your car was made fifteen that's our yeah.

2499
01:50:28,954 --> 01:50:31,154
Speaker 5: Anyways, anyway, yeah, kids these.

2500
01:50:31,154 --> 01:50:33,034
Speaker 3: Days, I don't know yes practice to talk about.

2501
01:50:33,914 --> 01:50:36,474
Speaker 5: So the good news for the Patriots on the practice

2502
01:50:36,474 --> 01:50:39,554
Speaker 5: field is that Kyle Duggar was back at practice today.

2503
01:50:40,194 --> 01:50:41,834
Speaker 5: So that was the first time we have seen him

2504
01:50:41,834 --> 01:50:44,354
Speaker 5: in quite a while since that ankle injury flared up

2505
01:50:44,834 --> 01:50:45,354
Speaker 5: a couple.

2506
01:50:45,194 --> 01:50:45,754
Speaker 4: Of weeks ago.

2507
01:50:46,194 --> 01:50:50,474
Speaker 5: So he was back. Yanique in Gokway is I guess

2508
01:50:50,474 --> 01:50:54,234
Speaker 5: how you say it, not like Ariani, it's yani Yi. Yeah.

2509
01:50:54,274 --> 01:50:57,914
Speaker 5: So Yanique in Gocway was that practice as well? Sporting

2510
01:50:57,914 --> 01:51:02,394
Speaker 5: a Joshua fifty five. Uh, so he is was practicing

2511
01:51:02,434 --> 01:51:04,914
Speaker 5: and participating. And I don't know if you guys spoke

2512
01:51:04,914 --> 01:51:08,074
Speaker 5: about what he said before practice already.

2513
01:51:07,794 --> 01:51:08,874
Speaker 3: Mike was talking about it.

2514
01:51:08,954 --> 01:51:13,074
Speaker 5: Yeah, and uh, but quite a few absences, so uh,

2515
01:51:13,994 --> 01:51:18,714
Speaker 5: Taki not there, absent with we believe a hamstring injury.

2516
01:51:19,074 --> 01:51:22,674
Speaker 5: Marcella's dial it seems like he's in concussion protocol. Uh,

2517
01:51:22,794 --> 01:51:27,754
Speaker 5: he was out of practice today. Whise absent, some lower

2518
01:51:27,834 --> 01:51:30,354
Speaker 5: leg issues there. And then one that we are not

2519
01:51:30,394 --> 01:51:32,994
Speaker 5: one hundred percent sure about is Isaiah Bolden, who was

2520
01:51:33,034 --> 01:51:36,234
Speaker 5: also not at practice today. So four guys missing on

2521
01:51:36,354 --> 01:51:39,274
Speaker 5: the defensive side of the ball from practice. And it's

2522
01:51:39,274 --> 01:51:41,434
Speaker 5: a little bummer about Taki Talkie because I thought that

2523
01:51:41,474 --> 01:51:43,794
Speaker 5: he played decent in the game and now he's heard of.

2524
01:51:43,794 --> 01:51:44,874
Speaker 3: Get what he's listed as.

2525
01:51:45,034 --> 01:51:48,314
Speaker 9: Yeah, what did you think of what Gakway said?

2526
01:51:48,834 --> 01:51:49,354
Speaker 4: I liked it.

2527
01:51:49,594 --> 01:51:52,274
Speaker 5: I liked the Jags comparison. I thought that was about

2528
01:51:52,354 --> 01:51:54,754
Speaker 5: as uh oh. So I didn't share that part of

2529
01:51:54,834 --> 01:51:57,914
Speaker 5: good answers he possibly could have given in that situation.

2530
01:51:58,074 --> 01:52:00,674
Speaker 5: So he was obviously asked about the elephant in the

2531
01:52:00,754 --> 01:52:03,514
Speaker 5: room of he went from the Ravens and potentially the

2532
01:52:03,594 --> 01:52:07,394
Speaker 5: number one seed to the Patriots, who are obviously not

2533
01:52:07,474 --> 01:52:10,394
Speaker 5: in the same spot. And he mentioned getting drafted by

2534
01:52:10,434 --> 01:52:14,234
Speaker 5: the Jaguars in twenty sixteen and twenty sixteen they went

2535
01:52:14,274 --> 01:52:16,634
Speaker 5: three and thirteen under Doug Moron and the next year

2536
01:52:16,674 --> 01:52:19,514
Speaker 5: they were in the AFC Championship Game. So that was

2537
01:52:19,554 --> 01:52:23,554
Speaker 5: his answer his response to being here on more of

2538
01:52:23,554 --> 01:52:26,314
Speaker 5: a rebuilding team versus on a team that has Super

2539
01:52:26,314 --> 01:52:27,354
Speaker 5: Bowl aspirations.

2540
01:52:27,474 --> 01:52:30,634
Speaker 3: Okay, so he's thinking about being here more than just

2541
01:52:30,674 --> 01:52:31,194
Speaker 3: this season.

2542
01:52:31,354 --> 01:52:32,914
Speaker 5: Yeah about that too.

2543
01:52:32,994 --> 01:52:35,874
Speaker 6: I mean, nothing has happened, but that was interesting to

2544
01:52:35,914 --> 01:52:38,113
Speaker 6: me of of, you know, maybe maybe they are considering

2545
01:52:38,114 --> 01:52:38,874
Speaker 6: trying to keep them on.

2546
01:52:38,914 --> 01:52:40,714
Speaker 9: I mean, we'll see what he has to has left

2547
01:52:40,754 --> 01:52:41,434
Speaker 9: in the tank first.

2548
01:52:41,754 --> 01:52:45,714
Speaker 3: Getting back to the practice, I know they weren't practicing,

2549
01:52:45,754 --> 01:52:49,554
Speaker 3: but any sighting of Christian Barmore or Cole Strange.

2550
01:52:49,874 --> 01:52:51,594
Speaker 5: No, so he saw both of them in the locker

2551
01:52:51,714 --> 01:52:55,914
Speaker 5: room today, but no practice yet for either one of

2552
01:52:55,914 --> 01:52:59,074
Speaker 5: those guys. Uh, so we'll see. I didn't see them

2553
01:52:59,114 --> 01:53:02,794
Speaker 5: walking out at all, even to the upper fields because

2554
01:53:02,794 --> 01:53:05,234
Speaker 5: we were on the lower fields today, so a little

2555
01:53:05,234 --> 01:53:07,674
Speaker 5: bit different setup. But no, I didn't I didn't see

2556
01:53:07,714 --> 01:53:10,754
Speaker 5: any either of those guys present at practice.

2557
01:53:10,794 --> 01:53:13,754
Speaker 6: I was kind of surprised that Jerrod said that Cole

2558
01:53:13,874 --> 01:53:16,754
Speaker 6: was behind Barmore, Like I thought that was kind of interesting,

2559
01:53:16,754 --> 01:53:18,874
Speaker 6: because I mean, time is running out, like I don't know,

2560
01:53:18,914 --> 01:53:21,194
Speaker 6: I just it's like, yeah, getting to the point of

2561
01:53:21,234 --> 01:53:22,794
Speaker 6: like now or never, like one of the last three

2562
01:53:22,834 --> 01:53:23,514
Speaker 6: games or something.

2563
01:53:23,794 --> 01:53:24,354
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2564
01:53:24,474 --> 01:53:24,674
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2565
01:53:24,834 --> 01:53:27,994
Speaker 3: We were talking earlier about Gerard's press conference this morning

2566
01:53:28,114 --> 01:53:30,914
Speaker 3: and he made it a point to compliment a VP

2567
01:53:31,634 --> 01:53:34,754
Speaker 3: in his development of Drake May so far. Did that

2568
01:53:34,874 --> 01:53:37,474
Speaker 3: ruffle the feathers of your media cohorts?

2569
01:53:37,794 --> 01:53:41,434
Speaker 5: No, No, I don't think it ruffled any feathers. I

2570
01:53:42,154 --> 01:53:43,114
Speaker 5: agree with them, Like.

2571
01:53:43,994 --> 01:53:45,954
Speaker 3: We've said it on the show. Somebody's doing a good

2572
01:53:45,994 --> 01:53:48,634
Speaker 3: job with Drake, but some of your friends in the

2573
01:53:48,674 --> 01:53:50,074
Speaker 3: media may not agree with that.

2574
01:53:51,114 --> 01:53:54,314
Speaker 5: No, I didn't hear any of that. There's nothing. Not

2575
01:53:54,434 --> 01:53:57,274
Speaker 5: a lot of conversations about that. Some of the conversations

2576
01:53:57,274 --> 01:54:00,834
Speaker 5: we were having were more centered around the players. You know,

2577
01:54:00,914 --> 01:54:04,274
Speaker 5: Mike on went who and his performance so far, Ramandrie

2578
01:54:04,274 --> 01:54:08,234
Speaker 5: Stevenson's performance on Sunday and everybody. They do their own

2579
01:54:08,354 --> 01:54:10,994
Speaker 5: process of their review and then we come back on

2580
01:54:11,034 --> 01:54:13,314
Speaker 5: Wednesday as usually and people, you know, what do you

2581
01:54:13,314 --> 01:54:13,794
Speaker 5: think about this?

2582
01:54:14,154 --> 01:54:14,354
Speaker 3: Greg?

2583
01:54:14,394 --> 01:54:19,714
Speaker 5: But darts say, I have not read that practice. He

2584
01:54:19,794 --> 01:54:23,394
Speaker 5: was not at practice. He ever come to practice, training

2585
01:54:23,434 --> 01:54:24,554
Speaker 5: camp and training camp.

2586
01:54:24,554 --> 01:54:25,554
Speaker 3: But I'm talking about now.

2587
01:54:25,874 --> 01:54:29,234
Speaker 5: Uh No, But I do see him in the like.

2588
01:54:29,194 --> 01:54:30,554
Speaker 3: That he doesn't come to practice.

2589
01:54:30,634 --> 01:54:31,914
Speaker 5: That's you have to ask him.

2590
01:54:32,274 --> 01:54:34,954
Speaker 9: Doesn't see the point in it. It's just gonna be.

2591
01:54:35,394 --> 01:54:37,234
Speaker 9: It's who's there, who's not there, That's about it.

2592
01:54:37,354 --> 01:54:39,754
Speaker 3: I get the sense he doesn't like everybody in the

2593
01:54:39,794 --> 01:54:40,474
Speaker 3: media corps.

2594
01:54:40,914 --> 01:54:42,874
Speaker 5: Oh, he did give me a nice shout out yesterday.

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01:54:43,354 --> 01:54:46,274
Speaker 3: I appreciated that because even during training camp he would

2596
01:54:46,354 --> 01:54:48,034
Speaker 3: not be with them, he would be separate.

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01:54:48,794 --> 01:54:50,674
Speaker 9: Well, he don't want to be distracted, you gotta watch it.

2598
01:54:50,914 --> 01:54:52,554
Speaker 5: Well, it's all about the vantage point.

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01:54:52,914 --> 01:54:54,194
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, I don't know.

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01:54:54,234 --> 01:54:55,714
Speaker 9: It's like me and I haven't sitting up top we're

2601
01:54:55,914 --> 01:54:56,754
Speaker 9: talking about.

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01:54:58,634 --> 01:55:00,514
Speaker 4: So I want to catch you up.

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01:55:00,634 --> 01:55:02,354
Speaker 3: He could have Greg could have come up and sat

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01:55:02,394 --> 01:55:04,114
Speaker 3: with us. I would have been happy to have him

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01:55:04,154 --> 01:55:07,674
Speaker 3: with us. Tell him if he wants to come up.

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01:55:07,754 --> 01:55:09,274
Speaker 4: He's been up there, I know.

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01:55:09,354 --> 01:55:11,674
Speaker 3: But if he wants to watch practice from where we watch.

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01:55:11,794 --> 01:55:14,434
Speaker 4: The perfectly saying that's what he has. He has in

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01:55:14,474 --> 01:55:16,274
Speaker 4: the summer, he was up there, he was down on

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01:55:16,314 --> 01:55:16,714
Speaker 4: the side.

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01:55:16,794 --> 01:55:18,194
Speaker 3: Oh, I saw him down below.

2612
01:55:18,394 --> 01:55:21,074
Speaker 4: He's down there as well. Yeah, but he's he's been

2613
01:55:21,154 --> 01:55:25,194
Speaker 4: up there. So we had a call that wanted to add,

2614
01:55:25,274 --> 01:55:29,314
Speaker 4: ask you Will Campbell or Banks, which one you like

2615
01:55:29,394 --> 01:55:32,794
Speaker 4: the best? I said, would say that whichever one has

2616
01:55:33,674 --> 01:55:35,514
Speaker 4: thirty three or longer in charms.

2617
01:55:36,554 --> 01:55:39,794
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gonna be big. I mean, look, the big

2618
01:55:39,834 --> 01:55:41,834
Speaker 5: thing with both those guys is that they play the

2619
01:55:41,874 --> 01:55:44,314
Speaker 5: position a little bit differently. So I think it's more

2620
01:55:44,354 --> 01:55:47,674
Speaker 5: about maybe what you're looking for in terms of flavor

2621
01:55:47,754 --> 01:55:50,354
Speaker 5: of style of play. Will Campbell's a little bit more

2622
01:55:50,354 --> 01:55:53,634
Speaker 5: of that, you know, lighter on his feed dancing bear type,

2623
01:55:53,634 --> 01:55:56,674
Speaker 5: whereas Calvin Banks is more of a mauling type of tackle.

2624
01:55:56,994 --> 01:55:59,474
Speaker 5: A very strong guy can move people in the run game.

2625
01:55:59,594 --> 01:56:01,634
Speaker 5: But it's going to come down to that day in

2626
01:56:01,674 --> 01:56:03,754
Speaker 5: February when they pull out the tape measure and they

2627
01:56:03,794 --> 01:56:04,594
Speaker 5: measure their arms.

2628
01:56:04,674 --> 01:56:06,794
Speaker 3: So we got a call while you were gone to

2629
01:56:06,914 --> 01:56:09,394
Speaker 3: Cody from Okay, well you go ahead.

2630
01:56:09,194 --> 01:56:11,754
Speaker 4: Jeez, go ahead, That's exactly what I was going to say.

2631
01:56:11,754 --> 01:56:14,474
Speaker 3: Okay, we got a call from a person from West Virginia.

2632
01:56:14,714 --> 01:56:17,594
Speaker 3: Big you know, West Virginia fan. He said, there's a

2633
01:56:17,794 --> 01:56:22,074
Speaker 3: kid projected tackle in the second round probably who is

2634
01:56:22,194 --> 01:56:28,394
Speaker 3: rating for past protection and run is like in the Yeah,

2635
01:56:28,634 --> 01:56:29,714
Speaker 3: and he said that's rare.

2636
01:56:29,954 --> 01:56:31,074
Speaker 4: No pressure is allowed.

2637
01:56:31,074 --> 01:56:34,914
Speaker 3: He's statistically, I forget the players.

2638
01:56:35,194 --> 01:56:38,994
Speaker 5: Maybe what you're cee. He it might be him from Minnesota.

2639
01:56:39,754 --> 01:56:42,234
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, no West Virginia.

2640
01:56:41,914 --> 01:56:42,794
Speaker 5: From West Virginia.

2641
01:56:43,274 --> 01:56:44,994
Speaker 3: Maybe what's the kid from West Virginia?

2642
01:56:45,154 --> 01:56:46,394
Speaker 9: The kids west from West Virginia.

2643
01:56:46,554 --> 01:56:48,114
Speaker 4: He said it was a West Virginia here.

2644
01:56:47,994 --> 01:56:49,114
Speaker 3: Yeah, West Virginia player.

2645
01:56:49,394 --> 01:56:50,074
Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know.

2646
01:56:50,234 --> 01:56:52,114
Speaker 4: He said he might be a little guilty of being

2647
01:56:52,114 --> 01:56:54,674
Speaker 4: a little bit of a homer, but that's how we prefaced.

2648
01:56:54,994 --> 01:56:58,434
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, high mid eighties for both run and past.

2649
01:56:58,554 --> 01:57:01,514
Speaker 5: Interesting. Yeah, look, I I would just say from not

2650
01:57:01,634 --> 01:57:04,034
Speaker 5: to pick on anybody the call or anything, but but

2651
01:57:04,114 --> 01:57:08,114
Speaker 5: you will pressures in college. I just I don't think

2652
01:57:08,154 --> 01:57:11,634
Speaker 5: that they really add much to the conversation.

2653
01:57:11,754 --> 01:57:13,834
Speaker 3: Wyatt Milo Okay, yeah, I know, I.

2654
01:57:13,794 --> 01:57:17,834
Speaker 5: Know, I know he's talking about now. I don't think

2655
01:57:18,194 --> 01:57:21,594
Speaker 5: pressures in college is a great way to assess the

2656
01:57:21,674 --> 01:57:24,794
Speaker 5: offensive lineman in college because of the types of offenses

2657
01:57:24,794 --> 01:57:28,794
Speaker 5: that they play at the college level. They are air

2658
01:57:28,874 --> 01:57:31,634
Speaker 5: raid offenses where they get the ball out quickly and

2659
01:57:32,194 --> 01:57:34,954
Speaker 5: they're they're splits in the way that they pass set

2660
01:57:35,074 --> 01:57:36,834
Speaker 5: is definitely different than what they're going to do at

2661
01:57:36,874 --> 01:57:39,834
Speaker 5: the NFL level. It does make it difficult at times

2662
01:57:39,834 --> 01:57:42,834
Speaker 5: to evaluate them because they have so few pro style

2663
01:57:43,194 --> 01:57:46,034
Speaker 5: pass sets a season that it's it's hard.

2664
01:57:46,114 --> 01:57:48,314
Speaker 4: So that's why I made a comment about the Big twelve.

2665
01:57:48,594 --> 01:57:50,674
Speaker 4: A lot of offenses operate that way.

2666
01:57:50,634 --> 01:57:53,714
Speaker 5: Right, So, you know, not take anything away from the player,

2667
01:57:53,794 --> 01:57:56,074
Speaker 5: but if the guy's getting the ball out in two

2668
01:57:56,114 --> 01:57:58,194
Speaker 5: point two seconds, you need they're throwing a bunch of bubble

2669
01:57:58,234 --> 01:58:00,874
Speaker 5: screens all the time, then you're obviously not going to

2670
01:58:01,274 --> 01:58:04,834
Speaker 5: have the exposures to allow pressure but I'll definitely check

2671
01:58:04,874 --> 01:58:07,034
Speaker 5: him out. And I know, yeah, the other guy is

2672
01:58:07,394 --> 01:58:11,754
Speaker 5: I always pronounce his name wrong. I think it's Minnesota,

2673
01:58:12,034 --> 01:58:16,914
Speaker 5: who's a really raw, athletic freak of a tackle that

2674
01:58:16,994 --> 01:58:19,794
Speaker 5: has checks all the measure bles and athleticism boxes, but

2675
01:58:19,914 --> 01:58:22,394
Speaker 5: just need some seasoning. So he's the other guy that's

2676
01:58:22,394 --> 01:58:24,634
Speaker 5: starting to creep up into this conversation as well.

2677
01:58:24,874 --> 01:58:27,354
Speaker 3: All right, right, let's do a couple of calls. We're

2678
01:58:27,354 --> 01:58:30,074
Speaker 3: coming to the end, but we'll get some people off

2679
01:58:30,114 --> 01:58:32,114
Speaker 3: because I know we've got to get out of here

2680
01:58:32,154 --> 01:58:35,474
Speaker 3: for Rook in the playbook, which is coming up next.

2681
01:58:36,154 --> 01:58:38,714
Speaker 3: Let's go to Henry in Yorkshire. What's up Henry?

2682
01:58:39,954 --> 01:58:42,794
Speaker 10: Al Right, guys with the show. I was just in't

2683
01:58:42,794 --> 01:58:46,154
Speaker 10: called up for yesterday's show, and it was interested in.

2684
01:58:46,194 --> 01:58:48,994
Speaker 10: Havant said, I think they're playing man coverage for five

2685
01:58:49,034 --> 01:58:53,154
Speaker 10: percent of the time. The secondized in the league when

2686
01:58:53,234 --> 01:58:56,594
Speaker 10: mixed up, well, historicalist is the secondize in the league.

2687
01:58:56,594 --> 01:58:58,594
Speaker 10: But he just sounded a little bit well, but I've

2688
01:58:58,634 --> 01:59:00,394
Speaker 10: all got me thinking about how in the summer and

2689
01:59:00,514 --> 01:59:02,714
Speaker 10: A want to talk about how Van Pell wants to

2690
01:59:02,754 --> 01:59:07,314
Speaker 10: playoff then don't really remember that about and defense? And

2691
01:59:07,354 --> 01:59:10,314
Speaker 10: I was just wondering ten weeks and what have you

2692
01:59:10,354 --> 01:59:12,074
Speaker 10: seen in terms of how this points I want to

2693
01:59:12,074 --> 01:59:14,594
Speaker 10: play the expense. What's your thoughts on that? And then

2694
01:59:14,754 --> 01:59:17,794
Speaker 10: my other question was how a concience to the news left?

2695
01:59:18,154 --> 01:59:20,594
Speaker 10: And I'll check it off one cheer good, All right, I.

2696
01:59:20,954 --> 01:59:23,634
Speaker 3: Might understand a word of that. And it wasn't just

2697
01:59:23,714 --> 01:59:25,994
Speaker 3: as he had kind of a weird It wasn't the accident.

2698
01:59:26,034 --> 01:59:26,714
Speaker 3: It was the connection.

2699
01:59:27,274 --> 01:59:29,074
Speaker 9: It was like it was a combination of the two.

2700
01:59:29,194 --> 01:59:31,754
Speaker 5: Did anyone understand I think he was talking about Van Pelt.

2701
01:59:31,954 --> 01:59:33,434
Speaker 4: I heard van Pelt in the middle of it, but

2702
01:59:33,514 --> 01:59:34,874
Speaker 4: that's about the only two words.

2703
01:59:35,914 --> 01:59:37,874
Speaker 9: Like in Bruce like it's like they have like the

2704
01:59:37,954 --> 01:59:38,754
Speaker 9: really thick.

2705
01:59:39,074 --> 01:59:41,274
Speaker 3: I'm not going to pretend I understood what he said.

2706
01:59:41,794 --> 01:59:42,034
Speaker 7: I'm not.

2707
01:59:42,554 --> 01:59:43,234
Speaker 4: Now I feel bad.

2708
01:59:43,354 --> 01:59:45,434
Speaker 5: I'm just going to assume he was asking about how

2709
01:59:45,514 --> 01:59:47,554
Speaker 5: van pell our opinions on Van Pelt.

2710
01:59:48,554 --> 01:59:49,594
Speaker 3: We already talked about that.

2711
01:59:49,754 --> 01:59:52,114
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel bad because I just assumed that was

2712
01:59:52,114 --> 01:59:52,514
Speaker 4: the only one.

2713
01:59:52,554 --> 01:59:55,994
Speaker 3: That wasn't really it wasn't just his his accident. It

2714
01:59:56,114 --> 01:59:58,554
Speaker 3: was like the connection was kind of in and out

2715
01:59:58,594 --> 02:00:02,954
Speaker 3: a little bit. So sorry about that. Henry Elj is

2716
02:00:02,994 --> 02:00:04,554
Speaker 3: in North Carolina, what's up, Eldred?

2717
02:00:05,514 --> 02:00:10,714
Speaker 9: Hey, the show whatever here so far? Like me, gimme

2718
02:00:11,034 --> 02:00:13,914
Speaker 9: Higgins and gimme t Matt and that guy.

2719
02:00:13,834 --> 02:00:15,954
Speaker 12: From with Virginia, Minnesota. I would try to get him

2720
02:00:15,954 --> 02:00:16,754
Speaker 12: in the stuck round.

2721
02:00:16,594 --> 02:00:18,314
Speaker 13: To the tackles on them.

2722
02:00:18,874 --> 02:00:20,194
Speaker 3: It's a guy from West Virginia.

2723
02:00:20,794 --> 02:00:20,994
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2724
02:00:21,554 --> 02:00:24,194
Speaker 5: Well, so the guy you're city is going to be

2725
02:00:24,434 --> 02:00:26,994
Speaker 5: a top twenty twenty five pick, like he's not going

2726
02:00:27,034 --> 02:00:30,554
Speaker 5: in the second round. But the guy from West Virginia, mate,

2727
02:00:30,994 --> 02:00:33,194
Speaker 5: So that could be someone that they could if they

2728
02:00:33,274 --> 02:00:35,954
Speaker 5: have you know, I don't know, thirty seven or thirty

2729
02:00:35,994 --> 02:00:37,794
Speaker 5: eight in the second round or something like that that

2730
02:00:37,914 --> 02:00:40,354
Speaker 5: they could target. But the cave from Minnesota is going

2731
02:00:40,434 --> 02:00:41,234
Speaker 5: to be the high draft.

2732
02:00:41,354 --> 02:00:44,914
Speaker 3: Thanks, Aldred. And one more before we leave, Courtney's in Houston.

2733
02:00:44,954 --> 02:00:52,074
Speaker 3: What's up Courtney? Courtney? Oh and then we probably thought

2734
02:00:52,114 --> 02:00:53,994
Speaker 3: she wasn't gonna get out there. All right. That's it

2735
02:00:54,114 --> 02:00:56,834
Speaker 3: for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. Stay tuned for John

2736
02:00:56,914 --> 02:01:00,194
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02:01:00,314 --> 02:01:00,914
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