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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. We welcome everybody. Welcome back, Hi,

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Speaker 1: it's good to be back. It is good to be back.

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Speaker 1: It's been a tough morning for me. I showed up

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Speaker 1: excited to be here, ready to see you and ready

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Speaker 1: to see our our beautiful team of people. I walked

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Speaker 1: into drama. I don't know exactly what happened in the

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Speaker 1: ten minutes you're here without me. Yeah, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: a there's just a lot going on, a lot being

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Speaker 1: thrown at. Mean, we'll get into that. We'll also get

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Speaker 1: into this week's Bachelor atte um. But you know, we're

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Speaker 1: coming off of a long weekend actually, and I just

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Speaker 1: want to hear what is going on in your life

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Speaker 1: right now. Well, there's a lot of work things. You know.

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Speaker 1: This is my second podcast, I have two each week.

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Speaker 1: My other one is the I Don't Get a podcast

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Speaker 1: with my sister and my best friend and we're talking

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Speaker 1: about things that we don't get. But you know I

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Speaker 1: have is that a lot of things? Apparently, So I'm

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Speaker 1: on episode twenty two now we come up with a

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Speaker 1: lot of things we don't get, um, but I have

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Speaker 1: that I have this hosting stuff at Clever TV and

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Speaker 1: a Access Hollywood. But other than that, you know, lying

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Speaker 1: around enjoying my life. Are you dating? I just okay?

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Speaker 1: So am I dating? I know everybody Whenever they asked

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Speaker 1: me what are you doing? Like are you are you dating?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, honestly, I'm working so hard that I have

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Speaker 1: zero desire to day on like the off night that

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Speaker 1: I get to sit like get Postmates and be my pajamas, Like,

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Speaker 1: I just am not interested in that, but I am

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Speaker 1: interested in getting married eventually. So apparently I need to

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Speaker 1: be concerned about this. So what's your strategy? So what's

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Speaker 1: my strategy? Well, I'm on Hinge. Now there's that. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty interesting. It's kind of fun because they're calling it

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Speaker 1: the relationship app. Now it's not like Tinder where you're

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Speaker 1: swiping for hookups. There's a variety of photos like the

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Speaker 1: other dating apps, but then there's also a cute little

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Speaker 1: like bio info, so it'll be like who do you

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Speaker 1: want to have dinner with? Or who are like tell

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Speaker 1: me how your parents met? So those are the kind

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Speaker 1: of that's a kind of info on your profile. That's

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Speaker 1: a little bit. So we've progressed as a society enough

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Speaker 1: now from where we have a hook up app. So

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Speaker 1: if you're just in the mood for a one night stand,

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Speaker 1: you go to what I Think and then if anything

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Speaker 1: else you go to this hinge. Yeah is it work? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So I just started using it about a week ago,

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Speaker 1: and I've got a lot in my inbox, a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys like in me. But I'll probably set up

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Speaker 1: one day, you know, this week. What's your last day?

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Speaker 1: Tell me about it. My last date was like three

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, and I'm not even sure it was a date. Wait,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean? Okay, this is actually something I

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Speaker 1: was going to do on my I don't get a

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Speaker 1: podcast because I truly didn't get whether it was a

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Speaker 1: date or not. Um. He he was like flirting with

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Speaker 1: me the night before. He's a mutual friend. He's actually

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Speaker 1: a friend of yours. Oh okay, so he's a fellow

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Speaker 1: bachelor alum. Yeah, and he texting me a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He just moved to l A and he was like,

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Speaker 1: let's hang when I moved, and I'm like, okay, sounds good. Um,

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Speaker 1: later in the week, if you want to do lunch

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Speaker 1: or dinner, like, I'm good, Like Thursday, or Friday night.

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Speaker 1: And then Jared happened to be here, my complication for

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Speaker 1: the past two years. Yes, he happened to be here,

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Speaker 1: staying with me as he always does. Just set in there. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask any follow up questions. I'll

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Speaker 1: just keep spewing info. Um. So then he invited this

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Speaker 1: said guy from your Bachelor season to go to this

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Speaker 1: concert with us. So we went to this event. He

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Speaker 1: was really he was not like overtly flirting with me,

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Speaker 1: but he kept complimenting me and saying how pretty I was,

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Speaker 1: and how stupid year it is, and like, you know,

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Speaker 1: all the same all the stuff that we usually get.

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Speaker 1: So um. Then he said to me that night, he goes, hey,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, so, like it's a real date, right,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking in my head. And then I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what if this is just a friend date?

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Speaker 1: quickly because I didn't want to make it really awkward,

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Speaker 1: I guess. And then we split the check, which means

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a date. There was no conversation about who

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say, h because I

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Speaker 1: know who this is and I'm a little bit confused.

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Speaker 1: I need some outside sources. So can we take a caller.

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Speaker 1: I need to ask this person if if they believe

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Speaker 1: this is a date or not. I got my buddy,

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Speaker 1: Chris Strmberg on the line, formerly known as Cupcake Chrissy. There,

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Speaker 1: come here. What's up? Then? Hey, buddy, I'm sitting here

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Speaker 1: with Ashley I Connetti. You're on the almost famous podcast

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Speaker 1: on I Heart Radio, and we're so excited to have

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Speaker 1: you buddy. UM, thanks for having me. I you know

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Speaker 1: you know highly I think of you, UM, and how

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Speaker 1: I've told you many times. If I had a sister,

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Speaker 1: which I don't, I would allow you to date her

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Speaker 1: or want you to date her. Um, so Ashley and

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Speaker 1: I are sitting here today and and her last um

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Speaker 1: interaction with you was something that we're a little confused about. Okay,

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Speaker 1: three weeks ago, you and Ashley went out to dinner.

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Speaker 1: Correct correct can real quick and about two sentences? How

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Speaker 1: did you feel about that interaction? Um? Yeah, I love Ashley.

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Speaker 1: She's great. The more I get to know her, the

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Speaker 1: more normal and cool she seems to me. We had

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Speaker 1: a great conversation. Okay, Chris, was this a date or

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Speaker 1: was it not? Was it a date? Yes? Oh? Uh man,

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Speaker 1: you're putting me in a bad position here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was a date. It was a

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Speaker 1: friend date. It was a friend date, right. You know what.

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Speaker 1: The funny part is actually knew that all along. She

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Speaker 1: never once was confused about that. You made me confused

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Speaker 1: about it, then making you stressed out about this. Actually,

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Speaker 1: who needs dating apps when you have the almost famous

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Speaker 1: podcast to set you up? Chris, I love you, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for calling in, Thanks for clarifying. This is big

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Speaker 1: for us. Actually, I have to apologize for something now

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Speaker 1: I think very awkward. That was one of the most

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Speaker 1: awkward moments I've had since The Bachelor Bachelor in Paradise,

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Speaker 1: I'm beat red right now. Well, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 1: at least now you know right wants to date me

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Speaker 1: be a really good topic for a podcast going here.

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Speaker 1: Is is Ashley's dating life, and I'm I think every

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Speaker 1: week we're gonna try to find just that special guy

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Speaker 1: to sign you on a date with. No, I don't

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Speaker 1: get on a date a week. That's exhausting. What are

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Speaker 1: you gonna do? Ashley? So moving on from here, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we just talked to Chris Strmberg and Chris Stranburg was

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Speaker 1: The Bachelor with Caitlin. I guess not my season The Bachelor,

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Speaker 1: so he has his beautiful teeth, always has, always hopefully

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Speaker 1: that brings me to topic today. I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about is this week on the Bachelorette, there was a

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Speaker 1: lot of criers. Um, I've been a crier on this show, Ashley,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember if you've ever cried or not on

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Speaker 1: this show or not. There's a better question. Was there

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Speaker 1: a time where I wasn't crying on the show. That's

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Speaker 1: a female's perspective. Is it not just okay? But is

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Speaker 1: it attractive when a when a man cries. It depends

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Speaker 1: like it when guys cry on The Bachelor's bachelorret Like

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Speaker 1: I thought Nick's crying was actually super sweet and showed

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Speaker 1: But that's because I try to put myself in their shoes,

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Speaker 1: because when people hug me it makes me cry more. Really,

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Speaker 1: a crier and love that. That's cute on you. That

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Speaker 1: thin cry, but not like maybe it was just one time. Well,

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Speaker 1: the reason I cry is really, I think especially during

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Speaker 1: this this experience of the Bachelor, or just in life,

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Speaker 1: when your emotions start welling up, it's it's my only,

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Speaker 1: I guess, reasonable reaction. Right, So when you get an argument,

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Speaker 1: negative way by anger or frustration. I hate that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: feeling in my heart. Okay, so exactly. People are always like,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, well, I'd rather it come out

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Speaker 1: just the stresses that topic puts on a person, but

425
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: also asking Ashley personally, like what are the stresses that

426
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: that's put on you? And and and have so many

427
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: I can talk about podcasts on this, be honest. I've

428
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: gotten to this really weird point where now I'm twenty

429
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 1: nine and my upper twenties and guys are freaked out

430
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: by it. It's actually prevented guys from really dating me,

431
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: Like guys who would have dated me now they don't

432
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: really give me the time because they're like, oh, I

433
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: don't want to be responsible for that, or like I

434
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: don't want to get involved with a girl who's going

435
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 1: to get so clingy if this happens. And just last night,

436
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 1: and when I first heard it, I wasn't annoyed, but

437
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: then I started thinking about and I got really upset. UM,

438
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 1: my friend, I go, why didn't you, UM, why didn't

439
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: you hook me up with your your other friend? Like,

440
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: why didn't you set me up with him? He's so

441
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: cute and he's like, I'm not gonna hoog him up.

442
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hook my friend up with a virgin.

443
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: How does that? I mean, this is a very this

444
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 1: is a very general question, but like, how does that

445
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: make you feel? Not not just the pressures of of

446
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: the X part, but as as a human that that's horrible? Yeah,

447
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: I was really sad, Like that sucks, Like that sucks

448
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: that in our society because like you're moral and like

449
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: made this choice for yourself that like I'm being punished

450
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 1: by it. Sort of. Yeah, I get that because the

451
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: one thing I know about you is is the person

452
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: you are is a lot bigger than just that topic,

453
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: right right, And I can't stand when guys make that

454
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: topic so big. It's so big to them. Definitely, Well, Marissa,

455
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 1: once again, I want to thank you for calling with

456
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: that question. That couldn't have been easy. But like I said,

457
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 1: I want this to be a podcast where those kind

458
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: of questions are able to be asked because actually not

459
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: here to talk. So Merissa, thanks for joining love it.

460
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I love you. Hey, have a

461
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: great day, MARSA, thank you. But what a great question.

462
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 1: That's a good question I can talk about. For a

463
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: long time, I didn't know, I can tell and and

464
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: it's a question that you know, honestly, before I even

465
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: met you, actually I watched you on TV and it

466
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: and it was kind of what defined you, right, you know,

467
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: coming off the Bachelor, that was who you were. That

468
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: was the stigma that they put to you, you know,

469
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: actually the virgin And and so enters into a topic

470
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: I want to talk about a little bit. Is coming

471
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: off the Bachelor, Bachelor or any show you do, any

472
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: reality television show, right, you're gonna be known as something, right,

473
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 1: your character is going to be defined. What have those

474
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: pressure has been like for you? Well, that's been the

475
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: biggest pressure. That's like the one thing that is that

476
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: surrounds me forever. Like every guy I go on a

477
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 1: date with can google me and find out them a virgin,

478
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: even though like it's probably not time for him to

479
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: know my sexual history. And it's definitely something that I

480
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: have to admit. I was really open with UM Production

481
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: about going into casting because I knew it would set

482
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: me apart. I knew it I just knew if I

483
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: was really open about that part of me, that they

484
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: were probably going to cast me. So I was like, Okay,

485
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. But I didn't didn't think that

486
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna make it such a big deal the show.

487
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: People think it's not and some people think it's not true.

488
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: That's why I stumbled there for a second, because when

489
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: I say that I mentioned it casting. I remember my

490
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: first season was my first season, people were telling me, Um,

491
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: you just told them that so that you'd be famous,

492
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: that you'd stick around, or that you'd have a storyline.

493
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, you guys really think

494
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: that this is what I want out like the people

495
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: that I want my dad to be hearing about my virginity.

496
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: Of course, you'd rather be hearing about my virginity than

497
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: all the guys that is love with. But still it's

498
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: a pressure. Perfect timing because we have a caller on

499
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: the line who has was a part of The Bachelor

500
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: with with Jojo Luke pell Um. Luke is a guy

501
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: I've just known a couple of met a couple of times,

502
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: so I don't know Luke personally, but I know when

503
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: we talk about um kind of how your character gets

504
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: questioned by doing doing these shows are getting defined by something.

505
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: I know that Luke is somebody can speak to that.

506
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: Lucy out there, buddy, hey man, you got Ben and

507
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: Ashley here. Um, thank you for joining us today. First off, yeah, absolute, UM.

508
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: So we've been talking for the last few minutes about

509
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: how coming off The Bachelor, Bachelor really really any reality

510
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: held in show, there's a ton of pressures and people

511
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: end up defining you by something they read, they find out,

512
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: or something that the show portrays, and fairly or unfairly

513
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: or unfairly you end up living. Um. People end up

514
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: knowing you by whatever is being displayed. And I know

515
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: recently you've kind of had that happen, right, You've had

516
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: some articles come out about you that haven't been necessarily positive. Um.

517
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: But you don't really have now a platform to defend yourself.

518
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: So I just want to hear what has that been

519
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: like for you coming off the show and having those

520
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: things said about you? Um. Yeah, I know it's interesting. Uh.

521
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: The unique thing about um, not reality celebrity kind of

522
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: coming to the status of celebrity and being so well

523
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: known by the public and scrutinized by the public that's

524
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: very different specific to the Bachelor franchise versus saying, oh,

525
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: I'm a professional baseball player or I'm even an actor

526
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: in a fictional series or whatever it is. Because everybody

527
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: then feels like they have a personal um, you know,

528
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: obligation or interest in your love life that's what you're doing,

529
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: or your relationship status, and so then they feel like

530
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: it's open. There's no there's a gray area between judging

531
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: what you do and how you date or how you're

532
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 1: relationally on screen during your time on the show. And

533
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: then when you come off of it, then people still

534
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: follow you as a reality star or whatever on social

535
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: media and they get glimpses of your personal life or

536
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: there's hearsay or articles about uh, you know, from internet

537
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: blockers and whatnot, and all that hearstay it becomes the

538
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: only fact that they have to judge from it. So

539
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: then they just are creating these whole storylines that are

540
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: just social media driven and you know, borrow articles driven,

541
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: and they have no grounds and there's no like thorough

542
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: platform of facts about what that is. And that's just

543
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: how you're known. So that's yeah, it's very interesting, and

544
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure that um then and Ashley have probably felt

545
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: that that same phenomenon. So yeah, we we have. And

546
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 1: and that's what as she was just talking about here is.

547
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: You know, coming off The Bachelor, she was known as

548
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: the virgin, and she as a result her her life

549
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: has been greatly affected by that. Even though she's proud

550
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: of that, right, that's a more moral choice she's made

551
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: as an adult, but she still now sees how that's

552
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: affecting her life, even outside of the topic of sex, right,

553
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: just dating in general has been rendered um by that definition.

554
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: And and you know, for for me, I've cut you know,

555
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: I think in a weird way. I came in The Bachelor,

556
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: and I think the tagline was perfect been, which is

557
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: which is super nice and very kind. But all of us,

558
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: all of us know that's not true. And so when

559
00:28:55,040 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: you're defined yeah, I have many flaws, and when you're

560
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: defined as perfect, right, there's only one way to move

561
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: and that's down. And you're going to continue to fail people.

562
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: Instead of people getting to know you fully and seeing

563
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: your flaws, end up embracing your flaws, loving your flaws,

564
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: and helping you work through those, they end up just

565
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: getting disappointed in you. And that's where I guess the

566
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: heaviness and the burden's light on my life is all

567
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: I could do. Was disappointed from the moment that that

568
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: was the definition of me. Only the only option I

569
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: had was to fail people over and over and over again,

570
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: because I'll be the first to tell you, and this

571
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: is coming from no place of humility, It's coming from

572
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: no place of of insecurity. I'll be the first to

573
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: tell you I am not perfect. And and and that's

574
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: what what my struggle has been with Luke coming out

575
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: of that and kind of moving more into your experience here,

576
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: uh from the Bachelor, and and kind of what you're

577
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: doing today. Um, how is Life's it's Um, it's it's

578
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: it's different. Um. You know, I've got new pitfalls to

579
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: look out for. Sometimes they're relational, sometimes they're just kind

580
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: of life rhythm because um, you know, you kind of

581
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: have to learn to say notes because there's so many

582
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: opportunities on the table. And you know, I've met so

583
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: many people this year, more so than probably the last

584
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: you know, five or six years combined of my life.

585
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: Just meeting people in new faces, new names to remember,

586
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: new people asking you, hey, come do this, come do that,

587
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: And you just learn you know, you trying to say

588
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: yes to a lot of these things, and then before

589
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: you know, you you, you know, the family starts falling

590
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: down in terms of how much time I got spent

591
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: with my parents this year and that started dropping, or

592
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: like how much I call my sister and see how

593
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: she's doing things that I used to do like commonly

594
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: that are in my personal life. Now I'm starting to

595
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: kind of see conflict with what I'm doing professionally because

596
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm so busy and say yes all the time the

597
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: tribol and work and everything. So this is just a

598
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: lot of things, you know, a lot of implications that come. Um,

599
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: you know, after you you're you're off the air and

600
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: after the show is over, but you know, you continue

601
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: to rise in the s celevery status and you know,

602
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: people want to know what you're doing and why you're

603
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: doing it, and you know all these things. So yeah, hey, Luke,

604
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: I know that you took a picture with Danielle l

605
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and it got all Bachelor

606
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: Nation buzzing that you guys were dating, But it was

607
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: really just a picture, you know, And I take pictures

608
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: with Jared all the time, and everybody's like Oh my god,

609
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: it's finally happening. How do you guys handle all the

610
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: speculation that comes across with just Instagram pictures. I think

611
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: from my perspective, we can make excuses all we want, right,

612
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: we and everybody tells us we signed up for this.

613
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: We did we We signed up for this show, hoping

614
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: for the best, not knowing what we're really getting into.

615
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: But the point that I always communicate is we're still

616
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: normal people. I still sell software like that is my

617
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: full time job. I also not talking to podcast, which

618
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm excited about. But but coming into the Bachelor or

619
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: Bachelor ete, I didn't have any prep prep for what

620
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: happens afterwards. Um. And so social media becomes this monster

621
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: that you have to manage. UM. You have to not

622
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: only post the right thing, say the right things, um,

623
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: but you also have to post a certain amount of

624
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: time so that people stay engaged. For me, for me personally,

625
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: that that was only the only thing that was was

626
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: a stressor, and it ended up being a stressor on

627
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: my life. I think it ended up affecting relationships not

628
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: only with you know, my fiance at the time, but

629
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: my family, my friends, because there was always this constant

630
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: I need to show what I'm doing now, and I

631
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: can't be in the moment actually doing it. I have

632
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: to make sure I document this the right way. We

633
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: could do entire podcast about social media and how it

634
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: affects our lives. It's kind of like a beautiful disaster

635
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: for us because it's so good for business and what

636
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: we try to promote. Luke, you your music, me all

637
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: the media stuff that I do, and now Ben's got

638
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: a podcast. But also you're right, I mean, I can't

639
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: go somewhere fun without stressing first about getting the perfect picture,

640
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: and then if it doesn't get a lot of likes,

641
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna tell you that

642
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: I don't care like I do. It makes me stressed out.

643
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, is my time able to

644
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: do all these cool things coming to an end? Yeah? Well,

645
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: you know, And that's on the same token, it's kind

646
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: of giving me a glimpse into the world of just

647
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: being in the entertainment business. And I feel like it's

648
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: a glimpse of you know, all these people that are

649
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: actors that kind of that catch a break and then

650
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: you know they they're always trying to stay relevant, like

651
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: relevant is their whole lifetime goal. It seems like as

652
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: a career they're like in the tabloid or what's the

653
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: next project or whatever, and they're always trying to stay relevant.

654
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: It's like a Hollywood thing. And so you know, for

655
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: us being normal people coming off the street, we get

656
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: a dose of reality TV and to every status and

657
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you're relevant in a very quick,

658
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: um short period of time kind of on on that

659
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: entertainment world, you know, spectrum, and then all of a sudden,

660
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 1: then that relevant starts fading just as fast as it happened.

661
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: And then people, you know, emotionally, they get caught up

662
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: in that and it becomes a very some people, i

663
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: think it become addicted to it, and it becomes a

664
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: very important part of their life and and probably too

665
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: much so. Actually, there's a study that came out this

666
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: week that there's been a seventy increase in depression in

667
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: young girls like twenties and below because of social media

668
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: and the images, the perfect images that are put across

669
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: on those platforms, and it's just no, you can't compete

670
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: with all the airbrush, and you can't compete with these

671
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: lifestyles that girls kind of pretend they're curated lifestyles and

672
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: personalities that they put up there. Yeah, hunter see that.

673
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: You know, just um, there's this change that's happening right now, transition.

674
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: We're um, the high percentage of of twelve year old

675
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: kids that are just going their adolescent development stages emotionally

676
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: and physically are now all on iPhones and all at

677
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: such a fragile time of your life and trying to

678
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: figure out who you are. They're in this they're learning

679
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: to be the most narcissistically uh you know, developed people.

680
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: But Luke, I want to ask you real quick. You're

681
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: just just we only have a couple of minutes here.

682
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: You're getting ready to get off social media. You're going

683
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: to paradise. Tell us about it. Are you excited? Are

684
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: you nervous? What's going through your mind? Oh? I thought

685
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 1: that was announced? Is that not announced? Tell us anything

686
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: that I'm sorry, I apologize, I thought that was announced.

687
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: So you know what's going on there? Uh no, I

688
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: think that. Um, actually, for me, it's not something I'm

689
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: actually interested in right now. And uh so, UM, you

690
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: know obviously that's been on the table for you know,

691
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: a lot of folks that are always alumni for at

692
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: least the last couple of seasons and and just for me,

693
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: after some discussions that just didn't steell like it was, um,

694
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: you know right for me, and so um, so yeah,

695
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm not actually gonna go in Taradise this year. All right, Well,

696
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: but I support that, man, I do. I support you

697
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: fully in that decision. I think you gotta do what's

698
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: best for you. I you know, I know if you

699
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: did go, you're the hottest commodity out there. All these

700
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: ladies are gonna be so sad. You'll be getting a

701
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: call from me later. Um, but good luck. I know.

702
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: I know you're touring right now. You want you want

703
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: to say something about that. Yeah, no, I'm just, um,

704
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: you know, back to Nashville, like what I was doing

705
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: before and and and things are great here. I love

706
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: this community and love being out to be in the

707
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: music industry at something. I left the corporate world and

708
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: left the military, um to come and do this and

709
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: kind of get back to what I was passionate about.

710
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: And so that's that's all I'm doing. And I've never

711
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: never looked back. I've never been happy here. So it's

712
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: things are great. So you guys come out to nashvill

713
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: whenever you get a chance and come hang out and visit. Man. Well, hey,

714
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: thank you, good luck with everything. We appreciate you calling

715
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: into the almost Famous podcast, and uh, good look with

716
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: the rest of the UM, I guess without paredise, good

717
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 1: luck is great. You have fun getting your flow phone

718
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: blown up by Ashley here for the next couple of days. Yeah,

719
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: I'll take a couple of days of chill and then

720
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: maybe you'll hear from you. I'm glad we got to talk.

721
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to see you guys again. I'm

722
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: sure we'll we'll get the hangar the next couple of months.

723
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: All right, perfect things, all right, that good day, see it.

724
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: So we haven't talked a lot with that. By the way,

725
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: that was a great call call. I love what he

726
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: said about social media. Yeah, and that's a topic we're

727
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 1: gonna touch on, I'm sure many times throughout this podcast

728
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: because it is so relevant in our lives today. UM.

729
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: But to kind of transition over, we haven't talked a

730
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: lot about this week's Bachelor episode, which was crazy, by

731
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: the way. Um. Not only throughout the week, there's been

732
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: a ton of press about how Rachel has announced that

733
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: she is engaged. So I'm watching this episode this week

734
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: knowing that she's engaged to one of these guys, and

735
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out exactly which one it is.

736
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: She's not just in love, but she's engaged. Who do

737
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: you think it is? Okay, and I only say this

738
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: because Jimmy Kimmel seems to be the new reality Steve. Okay,

739
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: he gets it right every single year. He got it

740
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: right for you, right, he did get it right for me.

741
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: He gets it right before everyone. He said, Peter is

742
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: the number one. Peter wins. That's what he says. Peter's

743
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: the Audie. He's like, okay, actually, let's be a little

744
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: more detailed, you guys, I'm sorry right now or something. Um. Yes,

745
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: he has got blue eyes just like looks like he

746
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: could be in g Q. He actually had the one

747
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: on one date this week. It was a jet Palm Springs.

748
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: They kissed. It seemed really good, and um, did you

749
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: like what you see in Peter so far? Well, he

750
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: does that thing that I was talking about last week

751
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: when they kiss, you know, he puts his hand on

752
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: her jaw. He's sweet and kind of secretive. He hasn't

753
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: like Scorpio vibe. I bet she's a Scorpio because he's

754
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: like warm yet very mysterious. You know, I like him romantic.

755
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: Are you a Scorpio? No, I don't really know what.

756
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: Let's do Zodiac reading one week. You know. I like

757
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: Peter why. It's because he wore a bow tie on

758
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: night one. That takes some cos I know, but but

759
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: that that takes some confidence. And when you can walk

760
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: out of the limo in a bow tie on the

761
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: biggest like entrance of your life, I have to give

762
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: it to Nick Vile. No one wears a suit like that. Man,

763
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: I agree with that, Yes he does. Okay, So so

764
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: moving into the episode, there was a lot that goes on,

765
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: but the one big thing and the hot topic right

766
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: now is still Boom. I'm not gonna do it. It's

767
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: gonna do it, and I'm not gonna So we have

768
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: this guy, uh, you know, and and honestly, it's still

769
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: hard to keep everybody together. I'm going to forget names.

770
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: I just know these guys by faces and moments in

771
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: the episode. I mean, I didn't know we had that.

772
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: That's good stuff right there, That's good stuff and I

773
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: never want to hear it again. And uh, so we

774
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: have what we just did their guy and and we

775
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: have then Dean seems like a nice guy. I think

776
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: if he doesn't end up with Rachel, he would probably

777
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: be my top choice for the Bachelor so far. It's

778
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: crazy that we predict bachelor's during week What else he

779
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: gonna do? I think we all, you know, pretty much

780
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: predicted you by week two. Can I tell that a

781
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: little story for a second? Go ahead? Okay? Um? So

782
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: I came back from Paradise totally heartbroken by Jared and then, um,

783
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: I got home to like four episodes of The Bachelorette

784
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: to catch up on, and my mom and I rewound

785
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: you giving the sex talk about five times because I

786
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: was upset. I was like, jaredy, I was like with

787
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: that again. I was like, this guy is absolutely the Bachelor.

788
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: That was your moment, that moment moment, Oh, Ashley, Well,

789
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: I will say I got very lucky with that. Um.

790
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: Ali from California, Alie out there, Hi, Hi, you have

791
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: a question, um, not about the Bachelor, not about the Bachelorette. Yeah,

792
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: so what's your question? Ali? My question with all the

793
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: hyphen in then of the man umper that's all over

794
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: social media, definitely the man romper. Oh yeah, so for then,

795
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: would you ever wear a man romper? And then for

796
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: actually a little bit different, if a guy that you're

797
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: really into attracted to shows up on your second or

798
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: third date wearing a man rapper, would that be a

799
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: total doodle breaker? Ali, how do you know I'm not

800
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: wearing one right now? Uh No, I would not wear

801
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: a man rapper. Those things not only look uncomfortable, but

802
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: I can only imagine every time you like stand up

803
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: or sit down or as a man like moving those things,

804
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: something's happening that doesn't exactly fit our bodies absolutely, like

805
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: we get camelto in them. But could you imagine the guys?

806
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Sorry, I didn't mean to go. Yeah,

807
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: it's just very awkward to have this. Like. So, I'm

808
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: just gonna compare it to ski season. So I wear

809
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: a ski suit, right, It's a one piece ski suit,

810
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: and anytime I have to do anything outside of that suit,

811
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: it is a massive task, a massive it is. It

812
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: is so annoying that I would almost choose to do

813
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: or whatever I've got to do just standing up inside

814
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: the ski suit because it takes forever. It's uncomfortable. It's hot, right,

815
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: it's constricting. Well, I'll tell you what you actually do

816
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: in that scenario, Van. You pull it over to the side.

817
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: Like when I go to the bathroom and a romber,

818
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: I just pull over my underwear. I think I speak

819
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: for women when I say that. For you guys, I

820
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess it depends on your size down there. Yeah, Ali,

821
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: thank you for the call. I would not wear a romper.

822
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: You're the best. We appreciate it, Um, and thank you

823
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: for joining the Almost Famous podcast. Did a guy? Who? Oh?

824
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: I understand? Okay? Thanks? Thanks Ali. Al Right, everybody, this

825
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: has been the second episode of the Almost Famous Podcast

826
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Speaker 1: with I Heart RATEI you. We appreciate you tuning in.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back next week. I was Ben and I

828
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Speaker 1: were Ashley. I We'll see you next week. Everybody following

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