1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: Boys. 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison, and new he Scrugs. 7 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: All right, you are in the SWBC podcast. 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 4: Center on Newly Scrugslaoa, heck Ma Harrison, Barry is the 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 4: Player's Lounge, and we come to you after the NFL Draft. 10 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 4: But we have news today as we're here at the 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 4: Star that an old face is returning to the organization. 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 4: Ezekiel Elliott was slated to take a physical ten o'clock, 13 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 4: I mean eight o'clock, excuse me. Ten back in the building. 14 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: Go your thoughts. 15 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 5: Look, I'm gonna say it wasn't a you know, terrible 16 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 5: moving in my opinion. You know, I think he can 17 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 5: bring it. Come in here, and you know, Zeke, one 18 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 5: thing about that. You know he's gonna be able to 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 5: pass protect and you know he's gonna be able to 20 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 5: punch the ball in from the from the five yard end, 21 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 5: like he's gonna be able to be that guy that 22 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 5: can ground and poind we talked about. 23 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: It on the last episode. 24 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 5: We need that back that's going to be able to 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 5: wear defenses down. Is he the same back that he 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 5: was years ago? Not at all, But. 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: I think what he can do can service this offense. 28 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 5: He can pick up you know, blitzeres and pass protection 29 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 5: and he can knock it in from the five yard end. 30 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: So to me, I. 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: Didn't, you know, I thought it was a It was 32 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 3: a solid move. 33 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't a game changer, but it was 34 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: a solid move. 35 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 5: We'll talk about the drafting a little bit, but yeah, 36 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 5: I think, you know, bringing Zeke. 37 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: Going a solid move BC. I could not be happier 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: there it is. I'm happy. I'm happy about this move. 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: Never should have left, is what I got to see 40 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: about it. I mean, look, new it got you choked 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: up because you get some more water. Because the thing 42 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: is is that we talked about this long and hard 43 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 2: throughout the season, and I always said, I'm like, look, 44 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: this is a piece to what we do offensively that 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: the Cowboys are gonna miss. And maybe they made, you know, 46 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: Tony Poulter the upside with him, the speed portion, and 47 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: maybe be bringing in a guy like Rico daddo some 48 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: of those other guys, you would have been able to 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: mix and match them in. I think the thing that 50 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: you missed most about Zeke last season was those tough 51 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: inside runs. You missed that. You missed that you were 52 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: just talking about five yards in in the red zone. 53 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: You missed that from Zeke. And it was so many 54 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: times over the course of the season that you were 55 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: saying seq with a score right there. Zeke would have 56 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: picked up that blitz. You know, all of those things, 57 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: and like, man, it's sometimes you don't miss a good 58 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: thing until it's gone. And I think for him, I 59 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: can't wait to hear his interview, like what was his 60 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: experience outside of a building going in New England and 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 2: what's the feeling for him coming back. I think you 62 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: make it. For all the rumors and things that people 63 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: said about Zeke and off season stuff, I think that's 64 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: you're not gonna get that Zeke. Yeah. I think the 65 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: guy that you get coming back in and the building 66 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: is going to be focused and let's keep it real. 67 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: He can help this team. He can help this team. 68 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: And so you add a piece that knows the offense, 69 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: that knows a portion of the offense already and the personnel. Look, 70 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: it's a perfect fit. And look, man, thank for the 71 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: organization to put egos aside and bring back a player 72 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: that they know can help them. 73 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 5: Well, come on, well, so we don't have to rely 74 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 5: on the immortal. 75 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: Two thoughts, it's out. 76 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: First thought is. 77 00:03:55,320 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: You could if he was if he'd accepted a large 78 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 4: your pay cut last year convening. 79 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: That's true. 80 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: You and your agent thought that, you know, you were 81 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: worth more, and you found out quickly that that was 82 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 4: not the case. 83 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: So let's put that there. Uh. 84 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 4: The second portion of it is you look at the draft. 85 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 4: They didn't go get anybody, so now you're here. I 86 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 4: I conceived the mentality of it because they had so 87 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: many holes to feel. We knew there was going to 88 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: be a wholesome place. So the organization basically, okay, fine, 89 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 4: look we we got another. We got another, so we 90 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 4: got we got something else. Not going to force anything. 91 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 4: I just don't know how much of a difference this 92 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: is going to make. I'm still the person who remembers 93 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 4: all the negativity as he at the end. You know this, 94 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 4: it's not that it's a lot. 95 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: Okay, do we forget that that's true? 96 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 4: This is heck, you don't know if he was born 97 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 4: at the time. Tom Lander goes three and thirteen in 98 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 4: nineteen eighty eight. Everybody's man, everybody's mad. Games passing by well, 99 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 4: then Jerry buys a team in eighty nine and he 100 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 4: gets rid of him. 101 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: It's like, oh my gosh, what are we doing. He 102 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: can't do that. Wait a minute, you guys were all 103 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: saying it. 104 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: It was done. 105 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 4: So it's a weird kind of deal. You were done 106 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 4: with Zeke makes too much money. Then he's gone. Now 107 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 4: we're missing him with Oh gosh, you can't get it 108 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 4: for the five yard line, bring him back. So I'm 109 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 4: just kind of sitting in the zone of, yeah, if 110 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 4: there's a place where he. 111 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: Can help, how he helps, We'll see how his. 112 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 4: Mentality comes back going to New England. You know, what 113 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 4: does he bring back here? I'll be interested. 114 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 2: I know. 115 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 3: I always like to say, let it play out. That's 116 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: where I'm here, Let it play out. 117 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 2: What was this? 118 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 4: Due f Royce Freeman? How do they make this running 119 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: back room work? But uh yeah, Rico and Lepke do, 120 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: So what is it? I would say, as you look 121 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 4: all around the kind of the rooms they have, that's 122 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 4: one room. Right now, are you confident in the room? 123 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: No? 124 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: Okay, are you confident the right and. 125 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: In my confidence level it stems from do you have 126 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: the same caliber of a running back that the New 127 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: York Jets have. You just look around the NFL at 128 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 2: the guys that you say that, these are apex guys 129 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: in the NFL, and I don't look at Zeke at 130 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: this point in his career as that guy. You know 131 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: that it's gonna diminish as time goes on. It's a 132 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: lot of miles, a lot of tread on those tires, right, 133 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: I believe My only belief is when I when I 134 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: looked at last season, there were games where Tony Poler 135 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: really didn't give you anything, uh in the ground game, 136 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: and you depended a lot on Dak to back up 137 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: and throw us out of situations. You needed somebody on 138 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: a third and four to be able to pick up 139 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: a first down instead of relying on relying on Dak 140 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: to make that pass. It takes a lot of the 141 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: pressure off of him. That's all I'm saying. Now, if 142 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: it's a running back by committee and I'm talking about 143 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: three dudes that can actually get it done, then I'm okay. 144 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: With that, all right, I'm okay with three guys having 145 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: a culmination of sixteen hundred yards seventeen hundred yards between 146 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: all three of them, I'll take it, all right, Lipkey, 147 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: give you three hundred break it up, all right? Give them. 148 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: You're like, I'm trying to go with your vision. I 149 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: will go. 150 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 4: I'll go back to Isekia Ellie's previous head coach, Bill Belichick. 151 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 4: You played against him. He's run through a lot of 152 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: different guys through the years. Man Man won a Super 153 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: Bowl with Antwine Smith and Jr. Read Now it's running back. 154 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 4: So he did a mix and match and they figured 155 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 4: out what it is they wanted to do. And this 156 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 4: is where you go to Mike McCarthy, all right, you 157 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: got this gumbo here, how do you make it work? 158 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 4: And so that's what I'm trying to figure out. But 159 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 4: if you are a Cowboy fan and you just go 160 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 4: through the years, this is an organization that's been used 161 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: to a Bell cow running back Dwayne Thomas in their 162 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 4: first Super Bowl win? Who should have won the MVP 163 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 4: that game? To Tony dor said to EMMITTT. Smith, to Ezekiel. 164 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: Elliott the Marco. 165 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're used to seeing a lead dog here, 166 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 4: this changing of the guard or how they're going to 167 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 4: do this. I like to see because right now, all 168 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 4: I can go by is what I know. And around 169 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 4: here when they've made it go, they've had one guy 170 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 4: and he's going to do it. So they're gonna go 171 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 4: a different way. Let's see how they have it a 172 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 4: different way. 173 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then the committee, it can work. The running 174 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 5: back committee, it can work. We've seen cases of it. 175 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 5: The only thing that worries me about, you know, going 176 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 5: into this season, if they don't, if defenses don't respect 177 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 5: that run game, and we've seen it all before. They 178 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 5: don't respect that ring, they're gonna let all that coverage 179 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 5: in the back end make everything murky for Dak. 180 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 3: And he can that you know, get through the waters, 181 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: of course he can. 182 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 5: But that's a lot of weight you're putting on your 183 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 5: quarterback when you don't have a run game to help, 184 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 5: you know, compliment that passing attack, and defenses is just 185 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 5: come to sit back and wait, because if they don't 186 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 5: respect that run game, it's gonna be hard to move 187 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 5: the ball through the air consistently for seventeen games. 188 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: Who's your starter? Day one? 189 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: See right up right, off the bat. I don't see 190 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 2: any of these other guys beating Zeke out in the summer. 191 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't see it. You know, you still 192 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: have one of those guys, that man, he still has 193 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: some swag about himself. I mean, and look that knew 194 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: his new England stent. It wasn't it wasn't great by 195 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: a long shot, finished with like six hundred yards on 196 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: the ground. But still he show flashes. He show flashes, 197 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: and those flashes. 198 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 6: We just came to hope you man was like that man. 199 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 5: You see what he did the Pittsburgh You got some 200 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 5: ju left. 201 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: Kind of a game, a game, not a season game, 202 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: not a pro. 203 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: Bo, not about the game, game game we needed him 204 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: versus Green Bay, give me that game versus Green Bay. 205 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of games you had this. 206 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: So I'm just listening to your words, your words. 207 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: You know he's gonna gonna write that down in the 208 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: little book over there. 209 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: You understand how this is. 210 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: We talked some hope that hoping. 211 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: You're hoping it can be what it was was hoping. 212 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, is it? 213 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 5: You think they're done adding into that room? You think 214 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 5: that's the room going into the season. No injury is 215 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 5: nothing that could be the room. 216 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. 217 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 4: I don't know. I would have to think it. The 218 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 4: roster construction at the position like that is still still open. 219 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 4: But I mean, as we're just talking here. 220 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 2: It remains fluid. 221 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 4: When the man left, No, there wasn't a big people 222 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 4: had there was there were certain folks who like this, 223 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 4: not what he's done. 224 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: Then you call him back. 225 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 4: So now you're gone from his last year calling him 226 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: full back to now now you you're want to hope. 227 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 3: If he can give you five fifty six. I you 228 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: think he could give you five fifty or six hundred. 229 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 2: I think, so let's go. Let's go six hundred three. 230 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: It was two hundred. We put this thing together. Man, 231 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 2: it's a piece of puzzle. 232 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 4: In baseball. This is the equivalent of guy. He's not 233 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 4: a starter anymore. Hey, man, we're gonna bring out the bullpens. 234 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 4: He gives one to two. That's good. He's not that 235 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 4: horse that he used to be. No, so we have 236 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 4: to know that el is not the where. 237 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: He used to be. 238 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: It's a lot of a lot of carries, man, that's 239 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: a lot of carriers. Twenty and sixty five carries for 240 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: Ezekiel Ellis. 241 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 4: It's a lot, a lot, like you know, your your 242 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 4: body only has so many hits, and so how they 243 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 4: use him, how to utilize it. 244 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: It's got This is. 245 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: Truly a committee. Now, this is truly a committee. 246 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: And you go back to those seasons, man, where he 247 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 2: had gutsy performances everybody like he's playing with a PCO 248 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 2: injury and all of that, and they never come back 249 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: to that, you know, they never come back to this 250 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: the way that he gutted out some of those had 251 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: some gutsy performances and still sty didn't you know, wasn't 252 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 2: inactive for any of those games. Like, my thing is 253 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: is that you need a guy like that in that room. 254 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: You need a guy like that. And if they're not done, 255 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: I mean they I know, we're going to go into 256 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: the draft and what we didn't do. But in the draft, 257 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: there was obviously some thought processing that that we're going 258 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: to have to get a veteran at some point and 259 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: the ones that were left and the likely the likely 260 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: to them saying, look, this is a guy that we're 261 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: familiar with, and they just with that move. 262 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 4: ESPN reporting it is a one year deal with a 263 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 4: maximum value of three million dollars or Ezekiel Elliott, which 264 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 4: is which Honestly, this is what was going to happen 265 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 4: in this market for guys like Elliott. 266 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: We saw Royce Freeman. 267 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 4: There's there's not the big days of dollars, them being 268 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 4: paid big dollars, and the running back is that that's gone. 269 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: So it makes economic sense. So it is what it is. 270 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 3: Let's take our first break and dive into this draft. 271 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 4: I want to know the pick that you liked you 272 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: down the list. Let's say, you know what, here's a 273 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 4: guy that I think can help this team in twenty 274 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 4: twenty four. I know he Shruggs Harrison is here, Barry 275 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 4: Church here, Buddy Dandy McCrae is out and he'll be 276 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 4: back soon. Wishing well players brought to you. 277 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: Bye. 278 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 3: We'll figure it out. 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See you there, Thank. 329 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 3: You, Harrison. I'm new. 330 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 4: We scruged Lor and Barry Church, so range Dan McCrae 331 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: with the night day off. 332 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: So we spent the first segment diving into Ezekiel Elliott. Yes, 333 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: coming back to the team. 334 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 4: Heck things come game one. Ezekiel Elliott is the starting 335 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 4: running for this team. The draft was just held here. 336 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 4: We saw first round pick Tyler Guidon Friday. I was 337 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 4: at the press conferences. Family came here and guys, let 338 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 4: me just make sure I preface and say this. I 339 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 4: don't know if I've seen another first round pick come 340 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 4: in here with so much gratitude with their family, just 341 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 4: you know, the Cowboy fans. This this, this gentleman was 342 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 4: thoroughly happy to be here. 343 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: I knew michaeh wanted to come here, we know that. 344 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 4: But just you could just see that they were just 345 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 4: overwhelmed with joy. 346 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 3: That was really fun to see. 347 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 2: Wait till twenty thirty when they called Hecma's name. Boy. 348 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 2: He talked about gratitude. We go bear crawl. 349 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: You're gonna be like Chris Chris was when Duce was drafted. 350 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 3: Tears man, we gonna. 351 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 2: Hate line to the field back here. You're talking about it. 352 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: You want to come work with dad? All of that? 353 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: You know, can you do it? 354 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: Man? It's uh, you know, I love that with especially 355 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: the bus ride when you show him get out to 356 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: play and then the bus ride over the guys see there, 357 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: see their faces on the digital screen. I mean, it's 358 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 2: it's obviously it has to be a dream come true 359 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: for them and Tyler guy, and he's someone that we got. 360 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: Well for me, I got an opportunity to see him 361 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: all year. But because oh your O you games and 362 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: Brett Ventables was linebacker Kansas State, know him well, good 363 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: friend of mine. I just got a got an opportunity 364 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: to see this big fella. And now seeing thinking about 365 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: him next to Tyler, Tyler is Tyler. There's some big 366 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: guys on the left side of that offensive line that 367 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 2: I think, you know, you know, Cowboy fans should be excited. 368 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 2: I know there's some hesitation because of you know, him 369 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: being being the left tackle, and obviously with with with 370 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: tyring uh now gone, and look, I think they have 371 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: to give this guy guiding is going to be a 372 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 2: pleasant surprise for a lot of people. His great feet, 373 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: long arms and everything that you need from your left tackle. 374 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: Is there going to be a learning curve? Heck yeah 375 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: there is because the speed is a lot different and 376 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: you get a chance. But the thing is, you get 377 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 2: a chance to go up against Michael Parsons every day 378 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: and practicing guys like Tank Lawrence, so hey, the learning 379 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 2: curve will be quick for him. No, I love to pick. 380 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: I love the pick. 381 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 5: You know, we talked about, you know, all the holes 382 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 5: that this team has going into this draft, and I 383 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 5: think they feel one, especially with this guy, Tyler Guttan 384 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 5: right now. 385 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: A big dude. 386 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 3: I'm talking about six seven. This dude is massive. 387 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 5: But what I like most about him is his basketball background. 388 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 5: So he has, like you said, those good feet, he's 389 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 5: athletic ability because he's gonna have to deal with a 390 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 5: lot of speed coming off of that edge. 391 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: So I love the pick. 392 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 2: Right there, they got that offsive. 393 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 5: Line hopefully solidified, and we'll see it going forward. But 394 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 5: I love that first round pick. I mean, we needed it, 395 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 5: especially in the trenches on the offensive side. 396 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 4: I think that they'd do with the first round man 397 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 4: and he kind of touchdown pass from Andy Dalton. He's 398 00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 4: a TCU. 399 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: So but. 400 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: There you go. 401 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 4: There it is, they doubling CD just go ahead hitting 402 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 4: hit him with a bullets So great. Great to meet 403 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 4: the Guyton family and to see just how excited they were. 404 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that. 405 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 4: So right, who, when you look at this draft, was 406 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 4: your favorite pick of what the Cowboys did? 407 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: Got it? Sir? Okay? So I'm still trying to figure 408 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: out the round number three. That's the round three pick 409 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: from Notre Dame. But you please pronounce this name for me. 410 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sit up here and tell you I 411 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: got it, but I think. 412 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the deal, and this this guy. 413 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 3: Is Hooker's cousin, hook coolist cousin. 414 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 2: I like him already, all right, Jordan Brandal on the table, 415 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: coming fell. But as far as we knew what we needed, 416 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: we knew. And I'm just channeling my inner Danny McCrae 417 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 2: here because that was exactly what he was asking for. 418 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: Is a is a linebacker. And when you look at 419 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: a guy like him and what he can do as 420 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 2: far as applying pressure from the blitz. We needed a 421 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: guy like that to also to be able to blitz 422 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: the passer, but also a guy that's good in space, 423 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: and what I saw from him in Notre Dame is 424 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: he's also good in space. And that's again that's with 425 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: the combination of what coach Zimmer is going to bring 426 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: to this defense and the weapons that he already has, 427 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: you needed a guy like that. I think last year 428 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 2: you were looking at our linebackers and you saw that 429 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 2: was one of the major deficiencies, the way that they've 430 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 2: worked in past coverage and working in space. Where I 431 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: have questions about sometimes is you know how taking on blocks. 432 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: You know we saw and you don't want to see 433 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: these guys down down after down, take on guards and tackles, 434 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 2: but just see if he's that physical, let the line 435 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: of scrimmage. So you know, I really appreciate the pick. 436 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: I think he's going to work well in this defense 437 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 2: and really want to see how he works in combines 438 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: with guys like Michael Parsons. 439 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 5: You know, I got to go with my mac representer 440 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 5: as well, west Or a Michigan guy right here, Marshall 441 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 5: and Eland. Yeah, and you know off the edge, they 442 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 5: say he's you know, twitch, he's he's fast off the edge, 443 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 5: can get out to the quarterback. 444 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: He's a raw talent though. 445 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 5: He's a raw talent though, and hopefully he can you know, 446 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 5: with guys like Parsons and Lawrence around him, they can 447 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 5: help perfect his game. But I think you're gonna definitely 448 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 5: need those depth pieces, especially with you know, Armstrong out 449 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 5: of here now, you got Fowler was going out of 450 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 5: here now. That pass rush was huge for dan Quinn 451 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 5: last year because he was able to just you know, 452 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 5: rotate those guys in and they were fresh. So this 453 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 5: year you're gonna add a little bit of depth there 454 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 5: and hopefully if he's able to come along, well, then 455 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 5: you can get that that speed package where you can 456 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 5: kick the Marcus Lawrence on the inside, you can have 457 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 5: Parsons in him on the outside as well, and you 458 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 5: can get after the pass rusher that way. What I 459 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 5: have liked to see more of a big time space 460 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 5: eater in that in that pick right there to basically 461 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 5: solidify the interior part of our defense. Yes, but just 462 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 5: right here is to me is a good depth piece 463 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 5: and hopefully he can come along and provide dividends for 464 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 5: this defensive line. 465 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: Cooper b b love it. 466 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 4: Okay, the offensive lineman out of Kansas State, and I 467 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: know a. 468 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 3: Lot of people and I had talked about Zach Fraser. 469 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 4: From West Westginia, and I believe you checked the draft 470 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 4: guy there Bb was rated higher than Fraser. So I 471 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 4: made a phone call up to Kansas State this morning 472 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 4: and I was told, one of the best people on 473 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 4: the team going to be involved in your community events. 474 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 4: They put him all around the offensive line when he 475 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 4: was there. Eight starts to right tackle in twenty twenty, 476 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 4: thirteen starts at left tackle in twenty twenty one. 477 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: Then they moved him inside and unanimous All American. It's 478 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: tough to do. 479 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 4: It's tough to do, and to me, what's even more 480 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 4: impressive is he did it in the Big twelve because 481 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 4: there are a lot of people that when they're doing 482 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 4: these kinds of things, they put. 483 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: More emphasis on the SEC and what's going on over there. 484 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 4: So I think that and people just think, oh, it's 485 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 4: the Big twelves is passing league and all they do 486 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 4: was throw the ball here. So that he was also 487 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 4: a first team All American in twenty twenty two, the 488 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 4: Big Twelve Offensive Lineman of the Year twenty twenty two 489 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 4: and twenty twenty three, three times First Team All Big Twelve. 490 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 4: I look at that and I go back to when 491 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 4: Jimmy was drafting players, and also when Bill Parcels's around here. 492 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: Go get me some proven winners. Go get me some 493 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 3: people that are doing it at a high level. 494 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 4: Late Gil Brand used to say, Newie, if they're not 495 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 4: doing it there, they're not gonna come up here and 496 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 4: start doing it. 497 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 2: That's true. 498 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: So when I look at Cooper b b who they 499 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: talked about putting it center, it's got big arms, aren't 500 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 4: the longest, but you know what he can get in 501 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 4: there in the phone move mix it up with you. 502 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 4: I'm excited about that because I just truly believe they've 503 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 4: got to help maintain that middle. And so now I'm 504 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 4: thinking he's a bigger, thicker guy than be Honesh. So 505 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 4: you have fun trying to figure out how you're gonna 506 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 4: get through bb Jack Martin Tyler Smith. 507 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 2: That's gonna be tough. 508 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: Okay, good luck, good luck right there? 509 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 2: Me tough. 510 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 4: So if you're trying to attack you, but we'll have 511 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 4: to go out to the cowboy tackles because that interior 512 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 4: line is gonna be be stout and then let me 513 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 4: have finish this. Then now your run game can be 514 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 4: a little bit better. Yeah, so you can get the 515 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: third and one third and two. 516 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. And the one thing that I particularly love about 517 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: BBI is he has some nasty to him. He has 518 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: some nasty to him. And they watched the highlights, and 519 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: you just watched this dude. He is finishing blocks and 520 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 2: that's the only thing. Like when I looked at Guidon 521 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: and a lot of not just him, a ton of 522 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 2: offensive linemen. I always have this critique they don't finish 523 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: blocks and you know, latch on and to the gatorade buckets, 524 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 2: you know, or finish and it's I think it's the 525 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 2: r p O. It don't even get me stuck anyway. 526 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: But I just I like his level of nasty and 527 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: and I think you needed that. You need that with 528 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: the guys that you have, and man, that's a that's 529 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: a great depth and also just understanding from the Dallas 530 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 2: Cowboys how you know sat not I don't want to 531 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 2: use the word satisfied, but where they feel like they 532 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 2: are already with the guys up front, with brock Hoffman 533 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: and those guys. So you know that's having him having 534 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: that piece, he's going to have to compete. He's got, 535 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 2: He's going to have competition definitely coming into slous Exactly. 536 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: I look at. 537 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 4: Cooper Bebee as second round talent that ended up in 538 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 4: the third round. I just really, really am excited about 539 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 4: this young man because the Cowboys need somebody else to 540 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 4: fight in the phone booths. 541 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 3: They got to and. 542 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 4: They've won twelve games three years in a row, and 543 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 4: they struggled in the playoffs. They haven't been able to 544 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 4: just get out there and establish a run game. Other 545 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 4: teams have established it against them. 546 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: But they have. 547 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so to me, that's what I'm looking for here. 548 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 4: Get this middle solidified right here. Okay, start you know, 549 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 4: start there, then you go guide him. It's going to 550 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 4: be an interesting thing. So for me, and we talked 551 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 4: about this before, you need to get some people walk 552 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 4: in here and. 553 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 3: Help you right away. Think about I'm not sure or. 554 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: Guiding just yet, but I'm anticipating if they can stay healthy. 555 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 4: BB and Giden are guys that are playing day one. 556 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 4: That's what you've needed to get out of this draft 557 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 4: for sure and help your offensive line. 558 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, because they got this team, they have to be 559 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 5: able to punch people in the mouth, you know, instead 560 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 5: of you know, taking that first punch and saying, all right, 561 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 5: now we've got to retaliate. They got to be able 562 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 5: from day one, from jump one, be able to establish 563 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 5: this ground game, establish some type of dominance to where 564 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 5: they can go out there and punch these guys in 565 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 5: the mouth instead of you know, waiting around to get hit. 566 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 5: I mean, that's what happens in each of the last 567 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 5: maybe three playoff losses. 568 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: Green Bay came in here, punched them in the mouth. 569 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: San Francisco twice back to back, punched them in the mouth. 570 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 5: They've got to get some nasty to them and hopefully 571 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 5: BB and all these other guys can go in there 572 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 5: and as a group in that offensive lineman and start 573 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 5: serving out some of you know, some beat down to 574 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 5: these other teams. 575 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: Then you saw that with against teams in your own division, 576 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: Philadelphia also they come in and they play nasty. They 577 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 2: are all over you picking up. 578 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 4: As soon as you said it, my mind goes to 579 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 4: just okay, who are you facing you and you're trying 580 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 4: to win your division. We know Philadelphia is invested in 581 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 4: their defensive line. We know the Giants have some good 582 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 4: defensive line dan Quinn. We know dan Quinn who's background 583 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 4: is defensive line. He's going to be working in that area. 584 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 4: And they still have some players there too. So that's 585 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 4: the exciting thing. I think about Cooper bb being in 586 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 4: there along with Tyler Smith and Zach Martin is that 587 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 4: they're going to make it hard. And if you can 588 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 4: keep that pocket clean, Dack, that people just can't run 589 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 4: up in there like that, that's going to help him. 590 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 4: And then said third one whatever, inside the five, you 591 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 4: got a chance. 592 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: Now my question if you guys were paying you guys, 593 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: of course you're playing paying attention to the two hundred 594 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: and forty fourth pick Justin Rodgers, the defensive tackle out 595 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: of Arburn six three, two hundred and forty six pounds. 596 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: Wait wait, yeah, seventh round pick seventh. 597 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 3: Don't don't even say that name. Don't don't go there, 598 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: don't go I. 599 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: Can't even now. I can't even see his name on 600 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: the show. 601 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 3: Come on out the man. 602 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: But look, you have a guy. Obviously he has his 603 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: shortcomings as well as as a defensive tackle, but you 604 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: get a guy. I think that you were asking for 605 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: you wanted it, probably talent wise in in you know, 606 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: rounds one through four, but you end up getting some 607 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 2: of that answered in the seventh round when you're you know, 608 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: with your final pick with Justin Rodgers. I mean, I'm 609 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: not asking him the rush a passer. I'm asking him 610 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: to be a space heater. I'm asking this guy to 611 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: take on blocks and coming out of the secc in 612 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: the way that he performed. I mean, look, it's maybe 613 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 2: not the most athletic guy. I don't need him to 614 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: be the most athletic guy. As a matter of fact, 615 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: I need him to gain twenty more pounds, be immovable. 616 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: You know. I need a sement a guy, A bucket 617 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 2: full of sement guy. 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You want to do draft grades, So 692 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 4: all right, go ahead. 693 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 2: Draft grade for the Dallas Cowboys. 694 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna give it a solid bee, solid, give it 695 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 5: a solid bee, not a B minus, not to be BLUs, 696 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 5: but I'm gonna give a solid B. I think they 697 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 5: definitely filled the holes on the offensive line that they needed. 698 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 5: I think they got either a couple of Day one 699 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 5: starters or at the very worst, great depth pieces on 700 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 5: that offensive line to go ahead and protect your almost 701 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 5: you know, about to be sixty million dollars quarterback soon, 702 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,919 Speaker 5: so you got to be able to protect him up there. 703 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 5: The reason, you know, I didn't go any higher than 704 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 5: that because they didn't grab it back. Man, they didn't 705 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 5: grab it back. You got Ezekiel Ella. We talked about 706 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 5: that in the first segment. But to me, I thought 707 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 5: you could have got a great depth piece, you know, 708 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 5: fourth fifth round in there that could come in there 709 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 5: and and not saying he's going to be you know, 710 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 5: Ezekiel laed in twenty sixteen, but you know, he could 711 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 5: have made that room a lot better. And you know, 712 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 5: he had abundance of running backs in the draft to 713 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 5: choose from. You know, I figured they would go late 714 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 5: in the later rounds and grab them, but they did not. 715 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 5: But they did feel they need against it or in 716 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 5: the offensive line and on the defensive line as well. 717 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 5: So for me, I'll give him a solid B. 718 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,479 Speaker 2: Look here when I when I I said it before, 719 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: I said offensive line first, defensive line second, and then 720 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: running back third. I thought that would be the order 721 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 2: in which we went on it once it got to 722 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: those third rounds and we didn't go that way, and 723 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: you solid running backs that had already dropped off the board. 724 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: Everyone after that would have would have been maybe a 725 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 2: reach considering you know, scheme, fit, size, all of those things. 726 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 2: And so I don't know, particularly the secret hasn't come 727 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: out and if they went you know, BPA on the board, 728 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: but I felt like they addressed their needs. Person They 729 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 2: addressed their needs. They addressed the depth pieces that they needed, 730 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 2: even the you know, the depth at dB we hadn't 731 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 2: talked to, you know, they bought in some extra help 732 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 2: there as well. I just look, I'm going a minus. 733 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 2: And the reason I'm saying a minus is instead of 734 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 2: a plus is kind of for the same reason that 735 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 2: you didn't go out there and get You didn't get 736 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 2: the running back, but I felt like you were solid 737 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 2: in every other area. I felt like you were solid. 738 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: I felt like you got guys that are going to 739 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 2: be able that we hope, guys that are right off 740 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 2: the bus that could come and help you as yet 741 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 2: to be seen. But you know, when you talk, when 742 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: you listen to Will McClay talk about these about these 743 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 2: guys that they drafted, you realize that they obviously do 744 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 2: all of the due diligence and research on these guys, 745 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,479 Speaker 2: and they know that they fit the scheme that they're 746 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 2: going to play next season. So look, I'm I always 747 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 2: and Will McClay I trust. Let me just say that, 748 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 2: all right, I trust. And you know you bring in 749 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 2: a guy like d Run Bland and you're like, man, 750 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 2: run man. You know this guy, you know, small school, 751 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 2: We don't think that he can how can he compete 752 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 2: on this level? He just goes out and lead the 753 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 2: NFL and interceptions. So look, I think I always put 754 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 2: that in the back of my mind when I see 755 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: these guys that are from maybe a smaller school, the 756 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 2: wide receiver from a small school that's coming in. Big 757 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 2: kid ran a four to four. But I'm just saying, 758 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: you know that, Will McClay, Stephen Jones. They did their 759 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 2: research on these guys, and so I felt like it was. 760 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 2: It was a solid draft, all right. Personally, I hate 761 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 2: giving it a grade. 762 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 4: I do, and I simply say this from the standpoint 763 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 4: some of these guys, I really have to dive in 764 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 4: more to okay, well and then love to know, give 765 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 4: me your. 766 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 3: Vision for these guys. 767 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 4: And they talked a little bit about it at the 768 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 4: draft table. 769 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 3: That's what they're going to do. 770 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 4: It's like, sign everybody, what a great class of kids. 771 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 4: I didn't need to see some potential walk in starters 772 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 4: and some guys that can not walking in here like 773 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 4: you talk about a neel and somebody who can play 774 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 4: some special teams and work. 775 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 3: I think they did a good. 776 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 4: Job when it came to taking some of these linebackers 777 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 4: and defenders. Because of the new special teams. I don't 778 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 4: think people talk about that enough. It's going to play 779 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 4: a very key part and how you build your football team. 780 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 4: And I don't think Cowboy fans really understand how bad 781 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 4: and bear the linebacker spot got that year. 782 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 3: They had so many holes. 783 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 4: So I give grace about the running back position because 784 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 4: I'm thinking to myself, so if I have to go 785 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 4: into free agency, where's a place where I can go 786 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 4: and say, you know what, may not be perfect, but 787 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 4: I can make this work. 788 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 3: It's Ezekiel Elliott. Yeah, you knew what's the draft happened. 789 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 3: It's not just cal. 790 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 4: A whole bunch of teams were just trying to find 791 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 4: some bargains here and there. 792 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 3: I can live with that. 793 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 4: I can live with that because the backs that I 794 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 4: liked they were gone, and as they were. 795 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 3: Like, take a Cooper rebe. 796 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 4: You can't take a running back. You needed this guy, 797 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 4: You needed a starting center. You passed on them in 798 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 4: round two, passed on in round one. Couldn't You had to. 799 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 4: You had to fix it. So I give them grace. 800 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 3: There. 801 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 4: You look at a guy like Neil and they're thinking 802 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 4: down the road, and you have to start to tank. 803 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 4: Lawrence is not going to be here forever. You're going 804 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 4: to have to start to think where do we go? 805 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 4: Sam Williams. You're hoping Sam Williams steps. 806 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 3: Into being more this year. 807 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 4: So I understand the mentality of what they were trying 808 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 4: to do. So if I have to give you something, 809 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 4: I'd give it a bee. It has to be better 810 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 4: than last year. 811 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 2: Gotta be this. 812 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 4: This group you're gonna play Jesus because as you dyed 813 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 4: for last year's sins of Dus, didn't get stuff done. Okay, 814 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 4: so we need you to come in here, be extraordinary, 815 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 4: great man. 816 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 5: They got you gotta get done because last year, I 817 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 5: mean Wilma class track record. You know, you gotta trust 818 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 5: in him because he you know, he's he's amazing when 819 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 5: it comes to this. But last year, I mean who 820 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 5: stood out in the last year? 821 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 2: Brother? 822 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So. 823 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 4: We need to get some people that can come here 824 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 4: and help you right away because last year's class was 825 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 4: not good and you're looking at the I mean right now. 826 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 3: Okay, you think about last year. 827 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 4: Mazzie Smith, we don't know, we don't know. Luke Screonmaker, 828 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 4: he said I could be your number one tight end 829 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 4: because's Jake Ferguson's been people saying you got a block better. 830 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 4: So you got to see where his growth spurred. Is 831 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 4: your third round pick has never started the game or 832 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 4: played in the game before uh in over Street because 833 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 4: he got hurt uh junior f Oh, how does he 834 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 4: fit your fourth round? 835 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,959 Speaker 3: How does he fit in this scheme? For Mike Zimmers. 836 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 4: Because that was a dan Quinn pick, like dan Quinn 837 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 4: had a vision for him. Does Mike had that same fission? 838 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 4: Things like that that we're trying to figure out and 839 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 4: find out from last year's class of guys. It's a 840 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 4: problem duce Vaughan, what is expected of duce Vaughn? And 841 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 4: your number two? He's in that running back room? So 842 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 4: so what what do you what do you see? 843 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 2: What do you do? 844 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 4: So that that for me, that's stuff that I look 845 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 4: at free agent wise, here a lot of Chris Bean 846 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 4: gave us a note here, just a lot of the 847 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 4: signings like Missouri running back Nathan Pete, Northwestern receiver Camp 848 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 4: Johnson's you know Corey Krumes wide received out of Minnesota, 849 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 4: Ala collar tight ends Central Florida. So a lot of 850 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 4: names here, names you don't necessarily know off the top 851 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 4: of the head. Lests you like a fan of the 852 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 4: team because it's from you know, South Dakota, you know 853 00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 4: East Caroline in Nevada. 854 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 3: So to me, I just look at it this way. 855 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 4: We know there's going to be one or two guys 856 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 4: and make this football team off that undrafted list every year. 857 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 3: Terrence Steele's just there. Barry Church is another example. 858 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 4: So the Cowboys are going to give you an opportunity 859 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 4: to make the football team, which I think is a 860 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 4: pretty cool thing because you know, it's just not just 861 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 4: a window dressing with a sign. They're really looking to 862 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 4: get people. 863 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 2: Opportunity and a great point. Man. I think my thoughts 864 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 2: of this weekend has been in that wide receiver room 865 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 2: also just trying to figure out who's going to be 866 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 2: the number two with with CD, who's going to emerge 867 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 2: from that room. Jalen Tober changed his number, the number one. 868 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 2: Did you see that? 869 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 3: I did not. That's number one, changed the one, number one. 870 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 2: Number one? Now okay, number one? Yeah? So all right, yeah, 871 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,720 Speaker 2: so I mean you still have Brandon Cooks. Jalen Tober 872 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 2: is now you're number three. I don't know if that's enough. 873 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if that's enough. CD CDs 874 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 2: And even with that, you know there's there's CD contract 875 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 2: still on the table. So much man on the horizon 876 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 2: still unsettled for the Cowboys after the draft, and none 877 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 2: of those other issues have gone away. We still have it. 878 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 2: And I just feel like as as days go by, Cee, 879 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 2: these contract goes up and up and up as you see, 880 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 2: as you see some of these other guys get signed. 881 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 2: But you're gonna need a bona fide number two receiver. 882 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks, he didn't solidify that role. To me, I 883 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 2: just felt like he was not a one trick pony, 884 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 2: but he was. He was a deep threat guy for 885 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 2: the Cowboys. You need more than that. And I don't 886 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,919 Speaker 2: know Jayalen Tobert hasn't proven to me time and time 887 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 2: he can be consistent at that. So I want to 888 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 2: That's what I want to see, and that's why I'm 889 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 2: so excited about the summer and these OTAs and see 890 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 2: the way that guys are developing. But there's still some 891 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 2: pieces and some things that I want to see the 892 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 2: Cowboys address, whether whether it be in free agency or 893 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 2: a guy that's currently on the roster tech in the rings. 894 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 5: They're still the team to be, Cowboys, still the still 895 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 5: the team to beat in the division. 896 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 2: Until further notice. Until further notice, I know we're gonna 897 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,280 Speaker 2: make bets gonna be made. You already know BET's gonna 898 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 2: be made. I'll tell you I'm not vinding. 899 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, Jones, that's what the Cowboys are. 900 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 4: We've never seen them have three seasons in a row 901 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 4: of twelve wins, I mean four four. They've had three. 902 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 4: To have four would be you know, that's that's a challenge. 903 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's when you're talking about the Brady 904 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 4: New England type teams. That's what you's about the Montana 905 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 4: forty nine ers type teams. And that's that's a challenge. 906 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 4: So so we'll see, you know, ten win may win 907 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:50,240 Speaker 4: could because if everyone can't improve, they just start knocking 908 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 4: slobber knocking into that. 909 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see. 910 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,919 Speaker 4: But the regression to the mean because it's the league 911 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 4: is designed this way. The league is designed it. Okay, 912 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 4: along the way, we're gonna make your schedule hard. You're 913 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 4: gonna have to face tough for teams. They don't want 914 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 4: you to stay on top, which is why what you 915 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 4: see from Kansas City has been impressive. What you saw 916 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 4: out of Bill Belichick's run up there in New England. 917 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 4: It also helped these guys play the booty Division. 918 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 2: Hey it's nots, but you. 919 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 4: Still have to win it. You still have to win it. 920 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 4: And this is this division is not that. This is 921 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 4: a very competitive competitive division. So there's changes that have 922 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 4: happened all the teams here. So this is why we 923 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 4: talk about it, this is why we enjoy it. And 924 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 4: we'll see where it goes. The Cowboys have work, We'll 925 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 4: see how they keep putting it together. 926 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 2: Something some teams. There's some interesting things on Draft night, 927 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 2: man and and it was it always makes you say, wow, 928 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 2: I'm glad that's not us. You know, Atlanta, that was interesting. 929 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 2: That was very interesting what Atlanta did Minnesota with JJ 930 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 2: and I don't know JJ McCarthy gets a bad rap 931 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 2: from a lot of draft analysts, but what they did 932 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 2: at ten, I think everyone's like, 's what's that pick? 933 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 2: So it's gonna trading up, trading up, Yes, trading up 934 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 2: that somebody who's gonna. 935 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 3: But they needed a quarterback. 936 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,760 Speaker 2: They absolutely they needed Yes, they need a quarterback. 937 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 3: So they needed a quarterback. To me, that that I 938 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 3: understood it. 939 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 4: Kevin mc Kevin O'Connell, and that's a fit to me, 940 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 4: I understood that. I was never a fan of Kirk 941 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 4: Cousin signing with Atlanta. He's never a fan of that 942 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 4: thirty six coming off and the killing yeah, you know 943 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 4: this guy walking up with ninety million. What were we 944 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 4: doing here? I never got that. So Pinnix to me 945 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 4: wasn't crazy. It's just crazy when you give a guy 946 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 4: ninety million where you could have put resources and gone 947 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 4: a whole there in other ways, and you'll, by the way, 948 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 4: the same organization and put out a press release the 949 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,240 Speaker 4: year before saying we're not pursuing Lamar Jackson. 950 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 3: I don't get this. I don't get this collusion. And 951 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 3: all the people are like saying, oh, it's crazy. You 952 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 3: got kirkuse how. 953 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 2: Long do you have it? Yeah? 954 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 4: I am not sold on Kirk Cousins finishing this contract health. 955 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just And that's the one thing that I 956 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 2: thought about when they took Pennix. I was like, man, 957 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 2: there's got to be something up with that, because maybe 958 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 2: there's something in the contract that they were saying, like look, 959 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,840 Speaker 2: getting them in here signing whatever, but there's some fine 960 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 2: small writing that they'd be in there about that whole 961 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 2: Achilles injury. I don't know. I just thought that that 962 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 2: was different. And there were a ton of teams that 963 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,479 Speaker 2: done that did things on draft night that I said 964 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 2: that that's interesting, you know, that's interesting, whether they got better. 965 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,720 Speaker 2: You know. Hey, Jayden Daniels goes to the commanders. That'll 966 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 2: be interesting, that will be interested. I mean, I look 967 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 2: forward to running into him. Pause. 968 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 4: The The nfcast is always entertaining, always entertaining. Hey, Barry 969 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 4: church Man, good to see well to see it. New 970 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 4: struts for Chris Bean, Jazz Josh has. Everybody who's a 971 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 4: part of this. 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