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Speaker 1: Banks with you as we're recapping the giants seventeen nine

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Speaker 1: loss to the Rams at so Far Stadium in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: Is the Giants fall to oh and four for the

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Speaker 1: first time since two thousand seventeen when they lost their

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Speaker 1: first five games, the Rams now improving to three and one,

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Speaker 1: and Bob timing is everything. It's the old cliche, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty much the perfect way to sum

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Speaker 1: up a game. Him like this, people are gonna point

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Speaker 1: to the fact that the Giants had a plus seven

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Speaker 1: when all of those lengthy drives add up to field

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Speaker 1: better team. Now. I thought the Giants played really well,

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Speaker 1: Ben's Giants Extra Point. What's happened to Richard? Richard going

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Speaker 1: safety and how big was losing him? Um on that

429
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Speaker 1: key touchdown there? Yeah, I think Ac did a good

430
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Speaker 1: job for the most part in the game. Obviously, I

431
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Speaker 1: gotta look at the tape and kind of dissect every play,

432
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Speaker 1: but he came out, he played a good game. Julian

433
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Speaker 1: Batt went back in there you know, we have a

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Speaker 1: lot of faith in Julian as well. So look all

435
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Speaker 1: the guys that come to the game for us, they're

436
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Speaker 1: all gonna play. Everyone's got a role in every game.

437
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Speaker 1: So was in there has to be accountable for the

438
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Speaker 1: plays on the field that Joe, uh the I mean

439
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Speaker 1: jumping off the path's first question. The offense has scored

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Speaker 1: i think three touchdowns in four games and hasn't court

441
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Speaker 1: at touched in the last two weeks. I'm I'm just curious,

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Speaker 1: what what makes you think that this group can improve

443
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Speaker 1: on that based on what you've seen so far. Yeah,

444
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Speaker 1: the folks is going back to work right now and

445
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Speaker 1: doing that weekken to match up against the opponents going forward.

446
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Speaker 1: So we've got to build on what we have and

447
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Speaker 1: who we have available, and we gotta make sure we

448
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Speaker 1: put them in the best situation to be successful. And

449
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Speaker 1: did you see what what we went wrong on the

450
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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup touchdown? And looked like maybe there's a miscommunication

451
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Speaker 1: there or something. You know, obviously, anytime that there's a touchdown,

452
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Speaker 1: nothing went exactly right. So we've got to look and

453
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Speaker 1: make sure we identify the breakdown correctly going forward. Tom

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Speaker 1: Rock Jose, you talk to Daniel was on the last

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Speaker 1: throw and do you think he could have run the

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Speaker 1: time out? In your pocket? Again, obviously it's easy on

457
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Speaker 1: the sideline or watch on TV, you know, than differently

458
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Speaker 1: what he may see in his own eyes. We'll go

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Speaker 1: to the tape collectively with the team tomorrow morning before

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Speaker 1: we take off and head back to New Jersey. But

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Speaker 1: I haven't spoken to Daniel specifically just about that. Do

462
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Speaker 1: you feel like this season starts next week against the

463
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Speaker 1: Cowboys because of the way the division is lined up.

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Speaker 1: I think it's important for us next week as we

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Speaker 1: started division run, that we play our best football, don't

466
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Speaker 1: leave come back to eache. The the offensive line, uh

467
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Speaker 1: five stacks that would have been six without a penalty.

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Speaker 1: I think four were early in the game. What did

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Speaker 1: you think of their play? Did they get better? And

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Speaker 1: did Daniel Jones and the receivers are they contributing to

471
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Speaker 1: this pressure Daniel holding the ball and the receiver is

472
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Speaker 1: not getting open. Well, First, if there's never one person

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Speaker 1: who's responsible for everything, Okay, it's a team game. All

474
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Speaker 1: the piz sets fit together and everything complements each other,

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Speaker 1: you know, In terms specifically to the offensive line, I

476
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Speaker 1: did see an improved unit this week. I think these

477
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Speaker 1: guys are getting better overall. You play a team like

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Speaker 1: the Rams, who's got an outstanding pass rush, you just

479
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Speaker 1: can't lose your mind when they make plays. You have

480
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Speaker 1: to move on to the next play and keep pushing

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Speaker 1: forward to be productive. That being said, we've got to

482
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Speaker 1: eliminate some of the easy plays and made for them

483
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Speaker 1: early in the game. And when it came down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: I like the way the offensive line really played and

485
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Speaker 1: stood in there. I thought they held up for the

486
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Speaker 1: most part against a very stout rush. Um obviously not

487
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Speaker 1: enough to take some of the production off the line

488
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Speaker 1: all right, that the Rams have, But you played good

489
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Speaker 1: defense like the Rams. They're gonna make some place too. Lombardo, Hey,

490
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Speaker 1: Joe um Daniel now has seventeen interceptions, which is more

491
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Speaker 1: games than he started. Is it concerning that for the

492
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Speaker 1: second week in a row, he's kind of telegraphed to

493
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Speaker 1: throw that wind up getting picked off either at the

494
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Speaker 1: end of the half for the end of the game. Yeah. Again,

495
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Speaker 1: I gotta look at the tape a little bit specifically

496
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Speaker 1: before we talk to the players and figure out everything

497
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 1: that happened in his last plays. Matt Um. But again,

498
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Speaker 1: I mean we're building more of our team going forward.

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Speaker 1: We have confidence our players, and we gotta keep working

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Speaker 1: putting positions to be successful. Arc Hey, Joe, you had

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Speaker 1: matt parent out there at right tackle later in the

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Speaker 1: first half, and then Cam came back obviously to start

503
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Speaker 1: the third quarter. We we didn't see anything injury wise.

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Speaker 1: Was that a coach's decision and what was behind to

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Speaker 1: move and then to go back to him. No, we're

506
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Speaker 1: just gonna play all the guys who are at the

507
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: game art, So there's really nothing you know that happened

508
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Speaker 1: in the game adicted anything that we did. Substitution wanes

509
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Speaker 1: on theither side of the ball, but we go in

510
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: every game, we take guys of the game. We have

511
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Speaker 1: a plan for how we're gonna use them. Maybe it's

512
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Speaker 1: situation excuse me, situationally in a certain substitution package or

513
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Speaker 1: for a certain play, and maybe you just want to

514
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Speaker 1: get them out there and get him a couple of

515
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Speaker 1: series under the belt. These are young guys. Obviously, they

516
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Speaker 1: didn't have a preseason really gain experience, so we've got

517
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Speaker 1: to build them in throughout the season, have used them

518
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Speaker 1: selectively to give them some experience on the field. Is

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Speaker 1: there any thought keeping parent out there? It seemed like

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Speaker 1: you were gaining a little bit of momentum at the

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Speaker 1: end of the first half. I'll have to take a

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Speaker 1: look at everything that happened right there, Aret, But look,

523
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Speaker 1: we're gonna look to use all of our players every game.

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Speaker 1: You know, where everything is the best chance. Let's be successful. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: Jordan's You're on you. Jordan's Jordan mute. We'll come back

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Speaker 1: to Jordan's be here me. I got you now, all right,

527
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Speaker 1: let's say that wasn't on me. What do you even

528
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Speaker 1: say to eleven point seven five points per game through

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Speaker 1: four weeks. I said, we gotta keep improving. Jordan's right now.

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Speaker 1: Our defense is doing some good things out there. We

531
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Speaker 1: gotta keep improving in the kicking game. Offensively, I like

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Speaker 1: some of things you saw down the stretch. Safe from

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Speaker 1: the offense. Gotta get the ball in the end zone more.

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Speaker 1: But we just gotta keep pushing going forward, keep making

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Speaker 1: corrections and adjustments, and get better as we good on

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Speaker 1: the stretch. And also on a separate note, I know

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Speaker 1: you you uh, you said you gotta talk to Golden

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Speaker 1: Did you talk? There's obviously past history between those two guys. Uh,

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Speaker 1: did you talk to him before the game? And was

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Speaker 1: this a concern of yours coming into this week? Golden

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Speaker 1: is a competitive guy. We talked to all of our

542
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Speaker 1: players every week about different things. I'll keep some of

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Speaker 1: the conversations between our players just between me and the players. UM,

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Speaker 1: we don't want to have happened at the end of

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Speaker 1: the game what had happened. That's not the way we

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Speaker 1: want to be as a team. I don't know all

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Speaker 1: the details yet. I gotta look at more, Jordan, if

548
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Speaker 1: I really have any comments to make on it. But

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Speaker 1: you say you know you're not gonna talk about the specifics.

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Speaker 1: But was was there a conversation what throughout the week? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: with him join again. I'd like to keep those conversations

552
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Speaker 1: between me and Golden or me and any of the players.

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Speaker 1: We have conversations going to the game. I respect the question.

554
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Speaker 1: I understand fully where you're coming from. I've just gotta

555
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: keep certain things protected with me and the team. We'll

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Speaker 1: take three more and Mark and Chris. Joe just wanted

557
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Speaker 1: to to ask two fourth down situations. I think in

558
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Speaker 1: the second half where you I think in Ram's territory

559
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Speaker 1: where you chose to punt. That just a matter of

560
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: trusting your defense. It's just the best decision we thought

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Speaker 1: at the time for the team. Our defense is playing good.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're winning the field position. Want to put

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Speaker 1: them on down in a long field and let our

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Speaker 1: defense play. Mark, I think we've gone for on enough

565
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Speaker 1: fourth downs. We're not afraid to go for it at

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Speaker 1: the right time. But I've got a call based on

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Speaker 1: what I think is best for the team at that time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Mark, did Joe? I know it's hard to

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Speaker 1: extract positive stuff when you're own for and whatnot, but

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Speaker 1: can you speak to what your defense did today? I mean,

571
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Speaker 1: the Rams were pretty high powered group coming in. You

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Speaker 1: held them at maybe half of almost half of what

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Speaker 1: they they've been gaining. And what kind of hope does

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Speaker 1: that give you moving forward here a little bit as

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Speaker 1: you're kind of trying to pluck some positive things out

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Speaker 1: of here. Look, I love the way our defense is

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Speaker 1: playing right now. Obviously a third down has been a

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Speaker 1: big excess for us as a team. They improved on

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Speaker 1: that today. You know, they've been a good early down

580
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Speaker 1: defense as well, like the where our front players are

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Speaker 1: back ends improving on a weekly basis, we have good energy,

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Speaker 1: We're getting great communication across the board. Thing Patton and

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Speaker 1: Stafford doing a great job calling this right here. I'm

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Speaker 1: proud of the way the guys work every week to

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Speaker 1: improve and get better, and I like the way they

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Speaker 1: thought today. Last question here, Chris Coach the piggyback that

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Speaker 1: a little bit um was there an emphasis on physical

588
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Speaker 1: play with the defense? It seemed to be the most

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Speaker 1: physical game they've played. And you went to your third

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Speaker 1: corner today with Ryan Lewis. Could you talk about what

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Speaker 1: you saw in him? Yeah, I'd say, first of all,

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Speaker 1: forget about depth charts. Anyone who's at the game is

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Speaker 1: gonna play for so, whether we look at him as

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Speaker 1: a first, second, third, or whatever. If you're at the game,

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Speaker 1: you're expecting to play. So you know, we don't hold

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Speaker 1: a lot of value on so called depth charts. If

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Speaker 1: you're at the game, you're there to play. So that's

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Speaker 1: really not important to us as a team. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'd say In terms of physicality, Yeah, we put

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Speaker 1: a big ms on being a physical team. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've said that from day one. That shouldn't be a

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Speaker 1: surprise to anybody. You know, we want to be a tough,

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Speaker 1: physical team. And that's the way. That's our style of coaching,

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Speaker 1: that's our style of playing, that's what we have to

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Speaker 1: be collectively as a team. Alright. Alright, So that was

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Speaker 1: b usa dot com. Today is the Giants felt to

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Speaker 1: the Rams seventy nine in l A. Clearly a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions about the lack of offensive production. And Bob,

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Speaker 1: I think this is a telling statistic. The Giants are

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Speaker 1: too for ten in the red zone this season. They

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Speaker 1: were over four today. That was tied for thirty first

614
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Speaker 1: coming in. It's probably gonna stay around that, if not

615
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Speaker 1: go solely to the basement and the fact that the

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Speaker 1: Giants also still have a minus four turnover differential. You

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Speaker 1: combine both of those factors, very hard to score, very

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Speaker 1: hard to win games. Yeah, because they don't have, uh,

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Speaker 1: they don't have any game breakers really on either side

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Speaker 1: of the ball. That's gonna single handedly, you know, just

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Speaker 1: make some extraordinary play like you'll see from other teams,

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Speaker 1: you know, the better teams in the NFL. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think one of the positives is the fact, Carl,

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Speaker 1: you know, coach was asked about positives day. I think

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Speaker 1: one of the positives is they did move the ball

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Speaker 1: better today. I mean they did. They did move after

627
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Speaker 1: the first you know, after the first couple of series,

628
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: they got into a little bit of an offensive rhythm. Again,

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Speaker 1: their margin of error is so slim because they don't

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Speaker 1: have a guy like when they had Odell Beckham Jr.

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Speaker 1: Who you could throw on a first and ten from

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Speaker 1: your own thirty three yard line, a six yard slant

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Speaker 1: and he splits the safeties and suddenly the statute has

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Speaker 1: a sixty seven yard touchdown. They don't have a guy

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Speaker 1: like that, So, I mean, it's just it's hard to

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Speaker 1: win when you don't have home run threats. But I

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Speaker 1: think the positives are that they developed some drive today

638
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: and more importantly, they played much better deference than they

639
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: did a week ago against the Rams team that wasn't

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Speaker 1: injured coming into the game. Right. And the thing is, Bob,

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00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: they gave themselves a chance. But you see why their

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Speaker 1: Good chatting with you. There you go. All right, Bob

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Speaker 1: talk about that rushing attack that did emerge for the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately it didn't translate to points. And we'll get your

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Speaker 1: to throw. Nobody's open. He's gonna get sacked by fact

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Speaker 1: Johnson also forced a fumble that James Bradberry recovered. But

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Speaker 1: here's the problem. Also, it's not a matter of simply

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Speaker 1: They've got four takeaways now on the season. All four

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Speaker 1: of those takeaways have equated to field goals, not one

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Speaker 1: touchdown off a change in field position. And once again,

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Speaker 1: On the ground today, by far their best rushing performance

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Speaker 1: further in perspective, the Giants had just one hundred seventy

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Speaker 1: Goldman provided a spark with a twenty six yard run

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Speaker 1: That was actually the first twenty plus yard run that

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Speaker 1: the big play and the Giants were able to move

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Speaker 1: the football on the ground today, which was encouraging. The

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Speaker 1: problem is the offense stalled once they got inside the

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Speaker 1: twenty and a lot of people bring up time of possession.

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Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite statistics. People tend to get

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Speaker 1: Giants had the ball for over thirty three minutes. They've

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Speaker 1: got nine points to show for it. So in the end,

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Speaker 1: time of possession is great, sounds nice. If it doesn't

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Speaker 1: extra point and let's hear from Robbie and Lenox, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 1: What's happening, Robbie, how are your lands? I just want

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Speaker 1: to talk about Joe Bizarre Chick and Larry heat here today.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna throw back to the seventies

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Speaker 1: and set the way back machine, and it's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: This is not about the defense. I was really proud

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Speaker 1: about the offense. And what's interesting to me is that

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Speaker 1: when Schumer was coach. Look, he wasn't a good coach,

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Speaker 1: we all know that, but he's certainly a better offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator than the clapper. Okay, when they brought Jason Garrett

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Speaker 1: on board. I have seen too many times when the

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Speaker 1: guy won't take shots in the end zone. How many

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Speaker 1: times do I have to do this at the end

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Speaker 1: of the game where this guy won't take a shot

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Speaker 1: in the end zone. And also too, you have to

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Speaker 1: But I mean the vertical game. Can we stop at

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Speaker 1: the horizontal passes. I'll give you a couple of things,

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Speaker 1: a couple of notes. First of all, Wayne Garrett Wayne

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Speaker 1: Goldman is a very good player, and so is DeVante Freeman.

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Speaker 1: And today they ran the ball well. But this is

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Speaker 1: the ball fast enough and cannot make mistakes like throwing

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Speaker 1: the ball in telegraphing it. This kid has potential. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the line played better Lands. There was significant improvement on

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Speaker 1: this team today. And I remember Bill Parcelf's first year

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Speaker 1: at three twelve and one. Okay, this is the majority

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Speaker 1: of this team is young. I agree, But today the

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Speaker 1: defense played well enough to win. This is about a

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Speaker 1: young quarterback who makes too many gam mistakes. This is

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Speaker 1: almost two it now, the question is is here good

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Speaker 1: enough quarterback to jack seventh in the draft? Is there

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Speaker 1: somebody out there that we should have waited for? What

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Speaker 1: should we have done have should we have gone through

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Speaker 1: a year where we could have picked up a Teddy

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Speaker 1: Bridge order or a player that could you know, play

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Speaker 1: a couple of years before we actually draft a young quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But this is about offense. That's disglaceful. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: a joke. Look at all the young quarter back to

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Speaker 1: the score. Let's look at Boroughs today. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that that he's borrows. Nobody's burrow right now, this gets tremendous.

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Speaker 1: But Lands, I mean, what in the world nine point

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Speaker 1: free touchdowns in four weeks? This team played rowing up

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Speaker 1: to win today. The problem is is Jason Garrett, Here's

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Speaker 1: a major prob and the young quarterback returns the ball

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Speaker 1: over anywhere. Get your thoughts and thank you for the time.

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Speaker 1: All right, Robbie, appreciate the phone call. Well, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that anybody would disagree that the turnovers have to stop.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Giants haven't played a clean football game

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Speaker 1: all season long, So no disagreement there. As far as

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Speaker 1: bringing the other young young quarterbacks into the conversation, remember,

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Speaker 1: personnel around the young quarterbacks is an important part of

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Speaker 1: the conversation. Context matters. Joe Burrow, for example, he may

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Speaker 1: not have a great offensive line, but he's got Tyler Boyd,

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Speaker 1: he has a J Green, he has a number of weapons.

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Speaker 1: Tee Higgins rookie wide receiver Joe Mixon in the backfield. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is not exactly working with that now. C J.

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Speaker 1: Board is in the lineup right now. And the reason

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Speaker 1: being is because Sterling Shepherd's banged up and say Kwan

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Speaker 1: Barkley's hurt. So when you evaluate some of these other

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Speaker 1: young quarterbacks have to take into consideration the personnel around

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. And as far as throwing it deep, listen,

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Speaker 1: they took a shot to Darius Slayden in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: It was too high. They had opportunities to have an

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Speaker 1: Ingram over the middle. Rams defense poked the ball away

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Speaker 1: at least on two of those passes. There was another

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Speaker 1: one to Slayden earlier in the first half where Sladen

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Speaker 1: had the ball in his hands, ball was knocked out

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Speaker 1: by Troy Hill the corner. So you know, some of

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Speaker 1: these plays is not necessarily a reflection of the Giants

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Speaker 1: offensive personnel. It's also the defense being able to break

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Speaker 1: up passes, but guys around the quarterback have to make

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Speaker 1: plays as well. It's not just necessarily on the quarterback alone.

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Speaker 1: We'll step aside, We'll come back. Jeff Fiagels will be

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Speaker 1: joining me as we continue to break down the giants

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Speaker 1: sevent nine loss to the Rams as they look to

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Speaker 1: now move towards Big D and the Dallas Cowboys next

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Speaker 1: week in their first divisional game as they still seek

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Speaker 1: after this. You're listening to Mercedes Benz Giants Extra Point

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Speaker 1: by the Hestoy Truck with Jeff Eagels. I'm Lance Meadow,

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Speaker 1: were recapping the Giants seventeen nine loss to the Rams

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Speaker 1: in l a Is. The Giants now fall to oh

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Speaker 1: and four for the first time since two thousand seventeen.

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Speaker 1: And Jeff, this has been an ongoing discussion that you

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Speaker 1: and I have had over the last few weeks. Just

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Speaker 1: the inability of the offense too cap off lengthy drives

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Speaker 1: with scores. Moving the ball hasn't necessarily been an issue

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Speaker 1: over the course of these first four weeks, but showing

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Speaker 1: something for those drives, Jeff, has been the achilles heel

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Speaker 1: of this offense. Yeah, you know, listen, I heard a

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Speaker 1: caller mentioned earlier that this Giant's offense. You know, they're

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Speaker 1: they are not up to up to standard with what's

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Speaker 1: scoring is at a at a very high rate. And

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Speaker 1: I think that when you get down into the red zone,

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Speaker 1: like you said, Lance, there oh for four today there

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Speaker 1: too and ten on the season. Um, something's gotta give.

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Speaker 1: It's a play calling, is it? Design? Is what is it?

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Speaker 1: And um you know if you look at this game, um,

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Speaker 1: without a few missed as this, this team beats the

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Speaker 1: Rams today, they really do. Um, they if they can

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Speaker 1: score some of those sometimes in the into red zone.

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Speaker 1: They get a chance to beat the Rams team today

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Speaker 1: if they don't give up one play and a busted

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Speaker 1: coverage for a fifty five yards strike down to Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 1: He's that this game is in the back. They've got

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Speaker 1: it going. Um, gotta be very proud of this team.

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Speaker 1: The way they did play, their defense played. It's not

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Speaker 1: easy to come off. Listen, I played this game a

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Speaker 1: long time. It's not easy to come off a butt

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Speaker 1: whooping as they did last week and then go on

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Speaker 1: the road all the way out to Los Angeles and

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Speaker 1: play team that's um, that's really good. They can put

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Speaker 1: some points up on you. Your defense did not play

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Speaker 1: well last week. They were on the field for forty

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Speaker 1: minutes and um, listen, you know one play and next

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Speaker 1: thing you know, Um, they held a good offense to

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Speaker 1: seventeen points. And you mentioned it earlier, Plans two times

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Speaker 1: this season that this Giant's defense has held the opponent

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Speaker 1: to seventeen points. That equates two wins most of the

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Speaker 1: time in the National Football League, and that certainly should

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Speaker 1: now because the Giants had are just abysmal in the

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Speaker 1: in the red zone. They really are. They've got to

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Speaker 1: fix it or they're just gonna get the rest of

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Speaker 1: the way. You give up seventeen points of the Bears,

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Speaker 1: you only score thirteen. You give up seventeen to the Rams,

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Speaker 1: you only score nine. And the one glaring statistic, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: if you recall coming into this game, was what the

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Speaker 1: inability of the Giants defense to get off the field

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Speaker 1: on third down? Right with opponents converting fifty percent of

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Speaker 1: the time and the Rams second in the NFL. Well,

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Speaker 1: you held the Rams five of thirteen on third down.

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00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: So if you go through the check marks, you say, hey,

856
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 1: the defense did enough, but the offense didn't meet them halfway.

857
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: And what do you use a lot, Jeff? Complimentary football

858
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: right with each phase contributing or meeting you at the

859
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: midway point. There was no complimentary football to be found today.

860
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: There wasn't. And that's that's something that you are trying

861
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: to get every week. You know, that complimentary football in

862
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: all three phases. But you know, they just can't. They

863
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: just can't put it together. But I will tell you that,

864
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, we did see a lot of good things

865
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: in this game. And I, like, you know, I'm always

866
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: the kind of guy that looks at the glass Half

867
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: Bowl and a lot of this stuff. And I know

868
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: that people probably may call me a homer and this

869
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: and that at the bar. The line is that this

870
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: team is young. We have looked at this team on paper,

871
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: We talked about it on paper. We have to understand

872
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: that what you want to see from this Giants team

873
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: is week by week and improvement in certain areas, and

874
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: then once those areas that are improved upon, they become consistent,

875
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: and once those those areas are consistent, you start to

876
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: get wins. Right now, we're just the Giants are trying

877
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: to put those together, um and this was a tough

878
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: loss for them because this was another game that we

879
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: talked about in just their early season. Four games into it,

880
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: UM two of the four. I believe the Giants could

881
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: be sitting at two and four right now. When you

882
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: think about it, that could would should have had, especially

883
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: in a division right now where if they just had

884
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: one win, just one win, you're competing, you are, you're

885
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: right in the thicket things, especially with Washington and Dallas

886
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: right now at one in three, and the Giants will

887
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: have an opportunity. They'll be facing the Cowboys next week

888
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: and we'll certainly get into that game a little bit

889
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: later on. But as Jeff mentioned, encouraging signs on the

890
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, Well, when we come back,

891
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: we'll hear from a key ingredient on that side of

892
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 1: the ball in Blake Martinez, Hang tight, We'll be back

893
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: right after this. You're listening to Mercedes Benz Giants Extra

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Speaker 1: Benz Giants Extra Point. He's Jeff Fege's. I'm Lance Meadow.

897
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: As we're recapping the giants seventeen nine loss to the

898
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: Rams in l A at Sofi Stadium. Defense held in

899
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: explosive Rams offense to just seventeen points, but it wasn't enough.

900
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: And speak of the defense. That now brings us to

901
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: Blake Martinez chatting with the media, brought to you by Toyota,

902
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: the official vehicle of the Giants. Here's what Blake had

903
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: to say. Blake um very physical today. Coach Coach Judges

904
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: talked about how they always emphasized being physical, but today

905
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: how was your role, how was the assessed the way

906
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: you defense played physicality wise? And you held this team

907
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: to two forty yards. What was the key to that today? Yeah.

908
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean we've been kind of saying that Eastern every week. UM.

909
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people didn't take it seriously

910
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: when we were saying it was just every single week

911
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: we're hurting ourselves. There's nothing teams are doing that we

912
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: can't stop. No matter who's out there, who's on the field,

913
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: who's up, UM, what personnel we have in we can

914
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: go and compete against anybody. And I think today we

915
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: showed that, UM. But we also showed the still the

916
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: things that are hurting us. UM. We just gotta keep

917
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: fixing those things and keep kind of minimizing those as

918
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: much as possible. Bruce batt Blake, what do you What

919
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: do you think of the effort of your defense overall,

920
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: the way that you guys were fighting. No, I think

921
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: it was awesome. I think that's the type of team

922
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: we want to be and I think overall it's something

923
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: that will hold the hat high on UM. But at

924
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: the end of the day, that's a production league and

925
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: it's it's getting wins, UM and that's what that's what

926
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: we want. And I think we're not gonna be satisfied

927
00:45:50,760 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: until that happens, Don Levy, Blake Blake, yep, just we're

928
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: obviously not there what happened from your vantage point at

929
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: the end of the game with the fight on the field.

930
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: I wasn't even near it, so I couldn't even tell

931
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: you anything about it. Um. Yeah, it's kind of where

932
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: I was at as a captain. Will you address it

933
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: with the guys? I mean, that's that's kind of a

934
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: coach issue. And then at that point, um, we we

935
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: know what we have to do, kind of moving forward

936
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: and just focus on that Mark. Yeah, Blake, did you

937
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: have uh what did you see on that cup touchdown there?

938
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: It looked like maybe there was a mix up in

939
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: the coverage and there were no safeties in the middle

940
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: of field or what what what did you see there? Yeah?

941
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: I think there was something there. Um, But I think

942
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: for me, I just have to go back to the

943
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: tape and see, um what kind of went wrong. I

944
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: can't really kind of say right now exactly pinpoint where

945
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: it was that or um who it was or whatever situation.

946
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: Um you kinda are looking for now. Um, I can't

947
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: really answer that. Let's take two more Duggan and Jordan's dugging.

948
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: If like obviously the defense got to a rough start.

949
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: What do you think changed, because you know, the first

950
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: drive seemed like the Rams uh head their way and

951
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: then you gusually tightened up. Oh yeah, I mean are

952
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: kind of game playing going to the game, was making

953
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: that type of team keep having to snap the ball.

954
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: And I think both their drives were fifteen play drives

955
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: or whatever, at least close to that UM. And at

956
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: that point we knew, um, that type of team didn't

957
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: want to have to keep doing that, and so they

958
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: I think maybe went away from some things or kind

959
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: of went back to some things, whatever way you want

960
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: to think of it. And at that point, we just

961
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: kept sticking to what we were doing and we were

962
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: making adjustments and making place Thanks last one here, Jordan's hey,

963
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: but can you hear me? All right? Yep, I'm just

964
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: curious what's it like for you guys as a defense

965
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: when your offense is averaging, You're watching your offense struggle

966
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: and average eleven point seven five points per game. I mean,

967
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: it's one of those things. We're all a team, I

968
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: think for each and every one of us, we all

969
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: kind of have things we have to keep improving and

970
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: keep getting better at UM and I think it's a process.

971
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, UM, kind of write

972
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: us off, I think that something's wrong, kind of just

973
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: think they know exactly how to fix everything. UM. But

974
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: for us, we're just working as a team and I

975
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: know it's gonna keep getting better each and every week. UM.

976
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: And I saw a lot of improvement all across the

977
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: board today. So that was Blake Martinez speaking with reporters.

978
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: He led the way with thirteen tackles, eight solo, one

979
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: for loss. You could pretty much give the player of

980
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: the Game award to just about anybody on the defensive

981
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: side of the ball, but we're gonna go with Kyler

982
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: Facral four tackles all solo, had a sack, quarterback hit,

983
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: and three tackles for a loss, and left the game

984
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: with the neck injury, but did return. He's the player

985
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: of the game. Brought to you by the members and

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987
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: the Giants fall to the Rams seventeen nine hit, Los

988
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: Angeles will step beside, come back. Jeff Feagles will rejoin

989
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: me as we'll try to make sense of what the

990
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: offense can do as they seek their first victory. Of

991
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: the season next week against the Dallas Cowboys, a team

992
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: that gave up forty nine points in a loss to

993
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Today, we'll be back right after this.

994
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Mercedes Bends Giants Extra Point on the

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997
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Speaker 1: cruise along here recapping the giants seventeen nine loss to

998
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Speaker 1: the Rams. Today's scoring drive of the game is brought

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Speaker 1: drive of the game. We take you to the very

1003
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: last drive of the second quarter as the Giants put

1004
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: together a thirteen play fifty six yard drive took three

1005
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: fifty two off the clos uck. They settled for a

1006
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: field goal Graham GEO thirty seven yards, but they had

1007
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: moved the ball much more effectively on that drive alone

1008
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 1: compared to anything else in the first half. And Jeff,

1009
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: that really is sort of a microcosm of the game

1010
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: where the Giants had their moments right. They put the

1011
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: Rams defense with its back against the wall. You get

1012
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: into the red zone and either you have a self

1013
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: inflicted wounds such as a penalty, you have an incomplete

1014
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: pass a high throw into the end zone, and you're

1015
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: settling for three points as opposed to perhaps six. Yeah,

1016
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean, because you look at the plays, they're they're

1017
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 1: running down the field and they're executing those especially that drive.

1018
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: It was a really it was really nice. It's nice

1019
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: to you know, like we said at halftime, it's nice

1020
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: to see the Giants will go down and score before

1021
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: the half because the other teams have been doing that

1022
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: against the Giants repeatedly here the last few weeks. So Um,

1023
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think they're getting close lands. I just

1024
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: think that you know, once you get down into that

1025
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: red zone, as you know, defensively, um, you can limit

1026
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: a team to doing a lot of different things in

1027
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: that situation because the field collapses on you a little bit. Um,

1028
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: you can no longer go for the long throws and

1029
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 1: in the crossing pattern that you you can really stretch

1030
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: the defense with. And I think that the Giant's got

1031
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: to come up with some more creativity in some ways

1032
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: to get the ball into some guy's hands. And you know, listen,

1033
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones gotta make a better throw, um, and he's

1034
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: got to do some things better and before this team

1035
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: is gonna win. And that's decision making. We talked about

1036
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: it in our pregame a little bit in our scouting

1037
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: report about what Daniel Jones can do about the turnovers. Um, well,

1038
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: he did a good job with that today except the

1039
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: last drive at the game and um we saw that again. Um,

1040
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: And that's kind of rears its ugly head, and turnovers

1041
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: are just gonna cost your games. And they've done that

1042
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: and it comes at the worst possible time. I mean,

1043
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: that's really what it comes down to, Jeff, because it

1044
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: is interesting. You play clean football until the very very end.

1045
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: You have a second and five at the Rams sixteen

1046
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: yard line, you're down by eight points. You need to

1047
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: get in the end zone and then a two point

1048
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: conversion to force overtime. And that's the one moment when

1049
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: you're just about knocking on the door that Darius Williams

1050
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: gets an interception on a throw that was behind the receiver,

1051
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: and it once again shows up that the Giants have

1052
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: had at least one turnover in each of their four games,

1053
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: and it's no surprise. Yeah, it was a it really was.

1054
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: And um, you know you're watching that game and you're saying, hey,

1055
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: this could be that, this could be it. Obviously if

1056
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: they had to score touchdown, which has been difficult, and

1057
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Speaker 1: not to mention, you know, a two point conversion in

1058
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: that situation, because the Giants can't score in the red

1059
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: zone normally, to get a two point conversion would be

1060
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: just as difficult like moving mountains. That's that's exactly right.

1061
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: So don't get all excited that they scored the touchdown.

1062
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: Just think they got to score the two point two.

1063
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: So that's back to back touchdowns. Um, that that could

1064
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Speaker 1: be really, really difficult. That's a great point. Hard enough

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Speaker 1: to get into the end zone when you have tight space.

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Speaker 1: Now the defense knows you're in tight quarters. Trying to

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Speaker 1: go for two doesn't necessarily make the task any easier. Well,

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Speaker 1: stick with us if you're listening to us on the

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Speaker 1: fan in New York. Will be right back with more

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Speaker 1: postgame coverage. But before we do that, very important to

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Speaker 1: note a very special thanks to technical operator Robert Carl

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Speaker 1: for his great assistance throughout the course of this program.

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Speaker 1: But it's time to say goodbye to the affiliates on

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Speaker 1: our radio network and on the Giants digital platforms. The

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Speaker 1: final score once again Ram seventeen, Giants nine, as the

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Speaker 1: Giants fall to oh and four and the Rams approved

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Speaker 1: to three and one. Next task will be to start

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Speaker 1: divisional play in Dallas against the Cowboys next Sunday. You've

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Speaker 1: N Giants Radio Network, driven by the Hess Toy Truck